How would you respond without sounding mad?
>>737535987By showing Starfield.
>>737536046jej
>>737535987Like this
Arguing with retards is a waste of time.
>>737535987Holy shit...
>>737536338>You.juat don't get it>Their engine is. It outdated Is this some sneaky rage thread OP?
>>737535987Heh... Indeed kiddo.Ave Todd!!
>>737535987>I love Rping
>>737535987I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say, and that's what no one did.
>>737536338>Their formula is outdated and staleConsidering that modern RPGs are just talking simulators I prefer old school. If anything, Starfield is too modern with their dialogue obsession. I miss the times where I could play anything other than an extreme extrovert who is addicted to hearing themselves talk.
>>737535987“lmao”
Bethesda fans are so weird. Either they're oblivious casuals or obnoxious victim mentality crybabies.
Arguing with indians is a waste of time.
>>737536968Also:>their formula is so stale Skyrim has had an average of 20k players monthly for the last 16 years and counting
>>737536116You sound very confident. I guess you never have any international arguments.
>>737537318yep, you're so right anon
>>737537225For a change pranjeed... The guy who posted this is an American. Not too much of a difference though.
>>737535987Bethesda games definitely has potential. Skyrim still holds up and FO4 survival is unironically kino (assuming you have the mod that lowers the difficulty)
>>737536968>>737537271>he just implied skyrim is "old school">he unironically used the "millions of flies" argumentSmartest Bethesda drone>>737536338>their engine is not outdatedlmaoAlso what is thay first sentence? Did he AI generate his reply or is he an actual reddit faggot?
>>737537505>mod that lowers the difficultyKys faggot
i don't really think of starfield, hell /v/ threads is the only thing that reminds me that starfield is a game, not even youtube recommends me starfield videos
>>737535987Bethesda has NEVER made an even above average RPG, let alone peak.Holy fucking 0 standards.
>*Clicks the 3 vertical ellipsis*>*Clicks Don't recommend channel*
>>737535987>The game is a master piece because it makes me use my imagination to pretend is a good game and to imagine all sorts of wacky conversations with my companions...God I hate autistic retards so much is unreal
>>737535987Well first of all I don't care enough to reply directly to the statement that Starfield could be "good". I mean I guess someone had to like Starfield but it is a sterile game and it's just FO4 minus the Fallout skin.I would describe Starfield as a bootleg version of FO4.
>>737537665This argument always makes me seethe, no matter how many times I hear it>you can just use your imagination to have fun :)The whole fucking point of a videogame is so you DON'T have to use your imagination, holy fucking shit.
>>737535987It’s just Fallout 4 but worse.
>>737536709loading screen loading screen loading screen
The cope and projection is unreal
>>737535987The only people I know who are into bethesda games in 2016+10 are gooners who add 500+ mods to said game completely obfuscating the original vision of the game devs
>>737537665I will use my imagination and schizo made up narratives while I'm doing picrel... Possibly the only scenario where is fun to do it playing with friends... Not by your own filling up the gaps or coping with, yet another bug, using your imagination to justify the laziness/incompetence.
>>737537859>players are truly crippled when given freedom>bethesda games>freedomThe delusion lmao
>>737537570name 2 better 1st person rpg
>>737535987>How would you respond>to one of the millions AI generated channels with AI logo and a generic name>that no human watches>that are employed by the 400 million dollar department of Bethesda's marketingGee, how would I respond?>>737536338Even the comment replies are auto generated, jesus fucking christ.
>>737535987>>737536338
>>737538254Some people genuinely view roaming empty landscapes as freedom, but won't care if the quests can only be done in one way with one outcome.
>im gonna pretend to be oblivious so i can debate with internet strangers.Sad!
You are all getting baited into replying and commenting on this dude's video to further propel it into the algorithm stratosphereI know this because I do the same with my videos
>>737537524>he just implied skyrim is "old school"No, it was stated that other Bethesda games *compared directly with Starfield as the basis* had an "outdated/stale formula". Learn to read.>he unironically used the "millions of flies" argument No, it was stated that if the formula was truly "outdated/stale" *compared directly with Starfield as the basis* then the latter would surely have a bigger current following, especially if its competition is a game nearly two decades old. Learn to read.
>>737536338The problem isn't that the formula is outdated or stale, it's the opposite. They removed everything that made the formula work to appeal to 68 IQ consolefags.
>>737540068cant believe it took this long for someone to noticethe whole channel and comments scream AI
>>737535987Into... the SAARFIELD
>any video about bethesdaslop>"skyrim was my first rpg and fallout 4 was my childhood"
>>737535987Bethesda hasn't ever made an RPG.
>>737537729Absolutely right. Fallout 4 is a 10/10 while Starfield is only a 7/10
>>737536338im a game dev so i got the "authority" to say bethesdas engine is a piece of shit and they ought to throw it out already.
>>737536338who gives a fuck about how games are made, if the game is shit it's shit
>>737536709anyone that talks about how much they love actually "role playing" needs to have their brain studied, kinda niggas that unironically play gtarp shite and cry about people breaking rp rules
>>737535987Any game can be roleplayed, like only using shotguns in Call of Duty since you rp a deer hunter who cant use any other guns. Or the sandwich collector. The games are a sandbox that lets you rp anything long as you make the rules. It does not facilitate roleplaying through its systems like Disco Elysium, Esoteric Ebb or New Vegas.
I wouldn't respond at all. I'd sit down and listen, because that's what no one else did.
I don't understand why Starfield is so hated when Oblivion/Morrowind any Bethesda game is the same exact shit, its the same garbage but only right now casuals are realizing the slop they consumed is bad.
>>737535987>rpg without rpgVery, very intradasting take.
>>737543413because oblivion and morrowind are over 20 years old and as such this game is stagnant, you dumb fucking niggertard
>>737535987I wouldn't sound mad when I stated that he was wrong without explaining why.
Can anybody explain why the Bethesda Engine is bad? Is it any worse than Unity, Godot or Unreal?
>>737540845The worst part isn't that people didn't realize it's an AI channel. It's that people still can't identify that ragebaiting is the most popular marketing method on the internet nowadays and still fall for it.
>>737535987There's no competition
>>737544183>The engine is bad because it can't have open cities Starfield has open cities >Ok, it can have open cities but it can't have drivable carsBethesda adds cars>Ok, it can have cars but you can't seamlessly travel between planets Bethesda add seamless FTL travel >Ok, it does have seamless travel but... it's just bad, OKPeople who hate the creation engine have no idea what an engine is. These troglodytes actually believe that game mechanics are hard coded to the engine and nothing can ever be added to it.
>>737535987Bethesda has literally never made a roleplaying game. Action slop with some janky magic system and pointless dialogue options that don't offer branching story lines =/= rpg.
>>737535987>Starfield came out 5 years agoHold me...
>>737535987I mean nobody else still makes the kind of games they do. Best RPG studio is larian though.
>>737536338Obvious ai response
>>737543413Morrowind and Oblivion, famous for their procedurally generated planets.
>>737537538>higher difficulty = extra thick spongesThis is a retarded way of implementing difficulty and everyone knows it
>>737544980The words in those games are so shit that they might as well be procedurally generated, especially Oblivion, in that game even the main quest feels procedurally generated.
Starfield was my game of the year when it came out. It made me realize just how much my personal taste deviates from the mainstream.
>>737545050So what you're saying is that they're factually not, in fact, "the exact same shit"? Concession accepted.
>>737544681starfield is a failed game, it was a failure all the way down from start to finish, the updates didn't help it, the DLC's didn't help it>terrible story that leads to... no answer and a literal copy of yourself telling you to "not think to hard and just explore">exploration is pointless copy pasted POI's with the EXACT SAME ITEM LAYOUT, they shipped it when you could have the same POI spawn 3 times in the same zone with 0 way to stop said retardation from happening>base building is even MORE FUCKED and POINTLESS than fallout 4, designed to get you materials you can't sell because the capital city can only buy 5k worth of goods>base building is so fucked that you LITERALLY can't put things flush against the wall, they float magically, on the houses you buy and can't change the size of, entire sets of posters that don't fucking go on the wall>level design is the worst it's ever been, even fallout 76 has better level design, not one single person was in communication with another member of the team, they don't have skill checks for anything and stealth sections are completely removed from any path that has NPC's with man sized vents you don't even need to crouch in>the scanner menu uses the scrollwheel, it resets if you move even a pixel, making it stupidly painful to use your perks LINKED TO THE FUCKING PIECE OF TRASH, as it constantly resets, the ability that you want to use is at the end, because all the higher level perks are always below the weakest ones forcing you to scroll through them EVERY TIMEi still can't fucking BELIEVE the bullshit they did with the quests in this game, actual retarded fucking plot, actually retarded reaching done by these writers, it's insane how bad it isi've read fanfiction from literal teens that was better thought out
Starfield really sucks and this is coming from someone who liked Skyrim and Fallout 4Morrowind is still the best
>>737536338>Whoa, slow down there, bucko!
>AI channels with AI comments Why are humans even needed anymore in Jewtube?
>>737535987>755 viewsKek
>>737536338
>>737535987If I was in person I'd do an impression of the Ugandan general. I've never actually seen a Starfield fan out in the wild, they only pay people to post online.
>>737541425>Nigger's never been absorbed in a work of art
>>737535987Haven't played Starfield, but heard it's very empty.It wasn't even peak RPG when Skyrim came out.
>>737544183It is extremely difficult to scale and doesn't manage open world streaming. Everything is behind loading screens for a reason: the engine cannot stream its world, and in fact can manage only a small number of objects before shitting the bag. The same thing for NPCs, too.Bethesda hides it behind cells that needs to be loaded, thus why you can't enter one house/shop without a loading screen.Graphically it is also obsolete, but who cares.Animations are needlessly complicated due to the way it handles animation, which causes "simple" things like ladders or cars to be impossibly complicated to implement. Also it is just weird and esoteric sometimes: all objects in the universe exist in a dev room that must exist in the map, and when they spawn in say a chest the object is copied from the devroom inside the chest. Why? Because lol.The modding is also archaic, with resources tied to an unique ID that is in a central db, which often causes conflict.Also the handling of the camera transform not on 0/0/0 causes floating point bugs when you go too far in a cell.It's just a very obsolete engine with some really really funny quirks. It was obsolete ten years ago. Nowadays it hilariously obsolete.
>>737546263it also looks like this at max graphicsmodded skyrim looks better and probably runs better too
>>737536709nigga if I want to imagine shit I'll just play D&D, when I'm playing vidya I want the fun stuff to be on the screen not in my head
>>737536338>WHOA! Slow there buck! You are talking hogwash here! Don't get your panties in a twist! Don't spill before a chill pill, take a trip to chillsville!
>>737546407just flag it for racism and hate speech
>>737546263>doesn't manage open world streaming>the engine cannot stream its world, and in fact can manage only a small number of objects before shitting the bag>ladders or cars to be impossibly complicated to implement.>all objects in the universe exist in a dev room that must exist in the map, and when they spawn in say a chest the object is copied from the devroom inside the chestThat people can blatantly lie like this lmao
>>737535987>can't catch the space bus between planetsNice Role play dick heads.
>>737536406>Is this some sneaky rage thread OP?Its a shill thread anon. Some tard probably spent 15 hours video editing his video and thanks to the YT algo being weird he only got 700 views, so he's posting it here not knowing that directly linking people the URL doesnt boost your videos in the YT algorithm that way anymore.
>>737536338>up to dateNot really, The engine Mario Kart World uses is literally more advanced than Creation Engine 2.
>>737536968>Starfield is too modern with their dialogue obsession. I miss the times where I could play anything other than an extreme extrovert who is addicted to hearing themselves talk.This, at best I want Skyrim style dialogue that I can mostly ignore and spam through to get to the next quest reward/location so I can get back to smacking cunts with my shield.
>>737535987I'd laugh because how can you argue with such delusion. Hell I'd argue starshit doesn't have any real role playing.
>>737543413>I don't understand why Starfield is so hated>$130 pricetag>runs like shit>looks like shit>has no content>extremely buggy>constant loading screens>story is ass>characters are unlikable>staring plastic Australian Aborigines staring at you all the time>playerbase expectations were Skyrim 2 with 100 mods installed set in spaceGee I wonder why its so hated....
Obsitroons btfo
Reminder Obsidian, the dev worship by many an nvtranny, said Bethesda's engine was easily the best they've ever worked with and when Epic tried to shill UE many years later Obsidian mocked them for finally catching up to where Bethesda had already been years before.The engine is not outdated. It is objectively one of the best engine in existence.
>>737535987Starfield is one of the best games of the generation and pretty beloved by gamers so there's really not much to say about it.
>>737546549>he doesn't know about the hidden inventories of vendors that you can access from certain angles and distancesbut that's just the vendors, even starfield follows this dumb ass shit>randomly found some stores box in the ground by chance
>>737535987I do not respond to youtube essayists
>>737535987I don't need to, this guy is the one that sounds upset here.
>he doesn't understand starkino
>>737535987>755 views
>>737547072The nvtranny refuses to engage because he knows he will not be able to refute any of the claims so instead he pretends it doesn't exist.
>>737547110Woah, slow down there, bucko!
>>737535987>755 viewsThis… this is (you), isn’t it?I’m going to look up this video and it’s going to be (you) waiting for me
>>737535987I wouldn't respond. People like this don't know what a role-playing game is, they cannot grasp how similar (for example) Cyberpunk and Starfield are, they'll say 'dude those are completely different' even though they're not.
>>737535987It’s hard not to be mad. I’m just disappointed at this point. They failed on so many levels. Quests, graphics, scope of worlds, combat. It’s just bad all around. You can’t ignore the game is non stop loading screens. That’s it. Loading screens broken up by occasional conversations with NPCs. The end game, the lame ass powers, and their brilliant (yawn) repeating the same shit for more powers is so ungodly boring. It’s worse than the system they made for Skyrim. Jesus. It’s really fucking bad. The game is boring. It doesn’t inspire or reward exploration. Morrowind sure af did. There are items hiding in the strangest asscracks in caves and dungeons that you’d need a levitation spell or potion just to have a chance to find. Shit like that is cool.
>>737540752Go fuck yourself projared
>>737547391Don't forget to thumbs up, comment and subscribe. Hit the notification bell pls! :)
>>737549625>they cannot grasp how similar Cyberpunk and Starfield areYeah, like how both aren't real RPGs
>>737535987It's my favorite Bethesda game by a long shot.
>bethesdajeets really cant tell AI from reality
