JUST GIVE ME THE CONTROLLER

holy fuarkkk half life 3 confirmed!

>>737538065
Any price leaked?

The last time this happened with the Deck OLED there were hands on videos released within a few hours.

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I swear to god I'm going to rush buy the controller and if it runs out of stock I'm going to fucking scream

>>737538762
Guaranteed lmao. Im already preemptively seething when the store page crashes.

>>737538762
I hope the frame controllers won't have that problem and they better be sold separately.

steam machine just flew over my house

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>>737538065
So are you saying that soon I'll finally be able to FUCKING BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER?

I really liked the first steam controller except for the triggers, face buttons, and thumbsticks

>>737538065
MY STEAM FRAME AAAAAA

>>737539083
It's unfortunate that they decided to fall for the babyduck controller memes after they had already essentially finalized a decent controller. I guess they figured that sloppy Xinput implementations had fucked up how games handled inputs too much for them to not need an emergency bypass.
The triggers are good (unless you are referring to the bumpers which are also meh), but the face buttons and thumbstick were ass. The controller just feels like it's physically in the way of your hands when using the thumbstick and buttons because of how it curves up.

>>737539343
>>737539083
My only issue with the new one is that it doesnt have dual stage triggers anymore but everything else is a massive improvement seems like

>>737538065
>Microsoft's Xbox announcement is about to be overshadowed by Valve again
lmao

>>737540624
Given that the VR controllers apparently have dual stage triggers and grips, it would be kind of weird for the main Steam Controller to just drop them. It might just not be mentioned in the marketing material.

>>737539083
My ONLY geipe with the Steam Controller is the lack of a D-pad. Ruins so many games.

They only added the controller, not the other two
They also rolled the update back shortly after, though it's on the internet archive now
The video in the temporary controller page also didn't show it connecting to the headset or cube, only normal pc and Steam deck, I don't want to be pessimistic but I'm only here for the frame and this worries me a little since they wanted to have all 3 devices come out at once

>>737538951
why would you want them? they don't have finger tracking anymore do they?

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sorry i already own the best controller on the market. no i don't need your gay trackpads, i have a mouse for that

>>737542515
The lack of a d-pad was only an issue because they savaged the controller in order to fit a stick and unergonomic traditional face buttons on it.
It leaves the controller without a suitable set of buttons that could casually be used for movement inputs since you really only have trackpad clicking, the dull bumpers, the complicated triggers and the stiff paddles, but the d-pad itself would have been unnecessary if they had just stuck to having some buttons located in between the touchpads, maybe just a symmetrical set laid out like the X, Y and B buttons on the final controller since those can still be used in a somewhat comfy fashion unlike the A button or thumbstick.

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IT'S UP

>>737543117
Fake

Today is the day for hl3

>>737543117
Real
>>737543180
Fake

>>737543117
boughted!!!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3564400/Steam_Frame/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3839710/Steam_Machine/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4073960/Steam_Controller/

>>737538065
My wallet is ready.

I'm really hoping for a "yep, it's here. Buy now" kind of shadowdrop.
I just got $200 for my birthday, so I'm eager to spend four times that to get some new top of the line hardware.

>>737542659
It's pretty obvious that the other 2 are delayed due to RAM issues. All of the recent updates have been purely for the controllers.

>>737538065
We need to round up and shoot all the valve fanatics.

>>737548194
why?

>>737548194
t. jeepta pajeet

>>737540624
Isn't Steam Controller 2 just a slightly upgraded Steam Deck sans computer? I'd imagine they'd focus on input parity and ditch the dual stage triggers since you have access to extra back buttons.

>>737542739
Is it that good? I have an Xbox SeX controller but it keeps dropping out the connection. I think the 2.4G dongle overheats.

>>737548251
Envy.

>>737542515
The analog stick should have just been a microswitch stick like on the Neo Geo controller. There's already the touchpad that does exactly what a stick does.

>>737548754
A touchpad is not a replacement for a stick, you are stupid.

>>737548852
Yes it is.

>>737548456
I have an older version. It's a pretty good controller.

>I think the 2.4G dongle overheats.
Tried a different USB port?

How long was it last year between Komodo being updated and the announcement? I remember it was the same day, but I want an estimate of when I should start spamming F5.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/723390/HalfLife_3/

Holy shit

>>737538382
70USD for the controller. Nothing else yet

>>737549051
Oh my God!

>>737548939
NTA but no it isn't. You don't get the same feedback for direction on a trackpad as you do with a stick. Your thumb could be basically anywhere on a trackpad but with a stick you instantly know where it is.
The trackpad is also unnecessarily large for movement.
As a result of the above, a stick simply feels better for movement.

>>737549060
Wait where did that leak? Komodo?

>[Sticks] also support capacitive touch to enable motion controls.
>We're calling it Grip Sense, and it's a new input for Steam Controller that enables gyro with capacitive touch. Hold and release to enable and disable gyro aiming. You can also map it like any other button.
can someone explain this to me? it sounds like in order to use gyro aim you need to either grip the controller a certain extra way or place both thumbs on both sticks, and both of these sound dumb as fuck

>>737548456
>>737542739
I can't use gyro over 2.4GHz, and I can't use back buttons over BT
Feels like cheating to list those as features if they don't work simultaneously

>>737538065
Does it have microswitch face buttons?

It's going to be so funny when the steam machine is under $700. You haters and non believers will eat shit.

>>737549445
Not possible. Steam won't sell hardware at a loss unlike MS and Sony.

>>737549346
It's like the capacitive sticks on the 'eck. You can configure gyro to activate based on you touching the grips, but the gyro isn't hardwired to the grips so you can use it normally and set the grips to do anything else like switch action sets or just disable them.

>>737549346
They are giving enabling gyro as an example but the butt of the handles are touch sensitive and you can set that as yet another input.

>>737549005
>Tried a different USB port?
Yes, doesn't matter what I do. It will always intermittently drop out.
>>737549352
That's pretty lame but I never played a game that used gyro so that's probably the thing I'd sacrifice.

>>737548150
There's been updates on the frame as well, like a bunch of icons and steamvr settings
But yeah, the controller shipment and this recent komodo update was a pretty big one

Touchpads are the same slop as a touchscreen, stop putting that shit on controllers. I want fucking buttons and tactile feedback.

>>737549698
More like they can't because they follow good business practices. Hence they win by merely existing.

>>737549060
$70 is perfect price point... Fucking GABEN WHERE'S MY CONTROLLER BUY NOW BUTTON!?!?!

>>737550038
ok

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>>737550038
This. Touchpads are stupid. What we need are cranks

>>737550038
You don’t have to use them if you don’t want to, but they help a ton when you need mouse control

>>737550153
I don't have to but they take up space on the device, they reduce the devices battery life and they increase the cost SIGNIFICANTLY.
They directly impact my ability to buy and enjoy the hardware. Get rid of them.

>>737550048
Every company has loss leaders. Gabe is just a Jew.

You niggas are delusional with your $70 "leak". That'a the price of an average jeet brand controller. 120-150 is my guess

>>737550185
Why would extra buttons reduce a battery life? If anything the extra space taken up allows a larger battery to be fit into the controller

>>737550185
then buy any of the other 50 controllers and stop being butthurt that EVERYTHING isn't catering to your retarded ass

>>737550038
Sure. As soon as you invent buttons that can be used to control a camera with mouse tier accuracy, as a scroll wheel, or as a grid with a custom amount of buttons. Until then, trackpads are superior.

I expect $200, it's in line with the dualsense edge and xbox elite controller, and those both go up to 200.
>>737550282
Not when it's stuffed with motors because the fucking trackpads have no tactility lmfaoooooo
>why would buttons reduce battery life
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>737550191
Only based Jew. A megajew that doesn't give a shit about other lesser Jews and just makes money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIi9rrIDq7E

>>737550312
Ah you’re just baiting, shame you had a few valid criticisms

>>737550232
$120 if it comes with a recharge dock and its a steal.

Who is this for? I never looked at my Steam library and thought “I wish I could play this game with a touchpad”

>>737550561
everyone?
it's the most technologically impressive controller on the planet

>>737542739
>8bitdo
lol, lmao
even gamesaar is better than that shit. 8bitdo has the absolute worst QA on the market, the build quality is dogshit and their products fall apart after mere weeks of use. They pay for shills like yourself though so it's no wonder we have to suffer through so much mention of their shit

>>737550561
I can see myself playing PC games from the couch using this controller.

>>737550282
So track pads would be on the whole time since well they need to but it is like gyro so I don't really agree they would eat that much battery, the misunderstanding comes people that think DS4 and dualsense battery sucks because of the touchpad, same when they used to think it was because of the big led on the back but it is just because the controller has really high pull rate and their board just fucking sucks.

>>737550634
Which games specifically?

>>737550185
>they reduce the devices battery life
It's 35 hours. If you can't take a 5 second break after 35 hours of playing to plug it in, you have bigger issues.
>they increase the cost SIGNIFICANTLY.
It's just semiconductors. The majority of a controllers price is profit. The DS4, which has a trackpad, cost 20 bucks to manufacture for example.
>They directly impact my ability to buy and enjoy the hardware. Get rid of them.
Sounds like the trackpad controller isn't for you then. Feel free to buy any of the thousands of controllers without trackpads.

>>737550561
It is for me, I play with a Switch Pro controller because of gyro so I would welcome this one with native support of a ton of more extra features.

>>737550631
both pay for shills you both shill for them. Chink Bit Do is just chinese fronted farm and Gamesar is India glazed product. (You always see Indians with them for a reason.)

>>737550627
Probably still worse than a super Nintendo controller. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, they’re just adding fluff to get in on the market. I’ll probably not buy.

>>737542739
Also what i use, great controller

>>737550312
>I expect $200
Retard. The first one was $50. Valve have also said they're not selling this as a pro controller. $70 to $80 is the most likely price point.
>it's in line with the dualsense edge and xbox elite controller, and those both go up to 200.
All profit. Third party controllers with similar features are under $100.

>>737550781
ok? if you're too retarded to read and understand the specs sheet then you don't get to have an opinion

This is going to be the biggest fail of all time. Just like every valve product, they’re just a retail store.

>>737550671
Fair, but yeah the wattage required in the background is so insignificant

>>737550232
>You niggas are delusional with your $70 "leak".
How so? Seems pretty reasonable considering the first one was $50. I could honestly even see $60.
>That'a the price of an average jeet brand controller
That's more like $40.
>120-150 is my guess
Prepare to be pleasantly surprised then.

>>737550704
Civ 5 maybe, and any other game that relies heavily on a mouse for input.

>>737542739
you must have tiny hands

>>737550939
I read over it while drinking my morning coffee outside the Starbucks. Had a French baguette with some tomato and basil. Look, the specs are fine. It’s not comparable to the DualShock line of pc parts. I originally had high hopes for valves pc controllers but they’re not as impactful to the scene as this thread might make you think. Hold on, I need to light a smoke. Im smoking on Marlboro. Anyways, I’m back. You still can’t integrate many basic functional parts into their movement degree system. And it’s giving negative feedback contrary to how it appears. Going to rate this controller thing a 10/10, im going to buy some of it.

>>737538065
>innie bubble stick instead of outie bubble stick
this is it. this is the culmination of thousands, possibly millions of combined years of testing.

>>737551108
$50 15 yeare ago is $100 now
I'm going to wait for the seething threads when the $150 reveal is posted. All the 3rd world jeets with no money are going to rage hard

>>737538065
>It's happening.
Nothing ever happens.

>>737548194
Please, by all means, share where you get video games.

>>737550561
It's more like "I wish I could play this game on the couch but without losing mouse aim or the amount of buttons a keyboard has"

>>737549051
>recent reviews mostly positive
silly trolls

>>737542739
8bitdo for the price it is with all its features is the best controllers on the market its not even close watch this piece of shit steam controller be 120 instead of 60$ and they have the exact same features as a 8bitdo controller

>>737549445
That'd be pretty great, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Component prices are still insane and Valve is not a hardware company that's getting the top discounts on mass orders, on top of Valve probably not wanting to take a loss to put out a PC that people could just buy and flip or use without touching Steam.

>>737550038
>I want fucking buttons and tactile feedback.
Well good thing it has that too.

>>737551641
>Tries to shill shitdoodoo this hard.
lol.

>>737538065
I don't understand why people are hyped for the controller. It's not the touchpads, is it? From my experience with the Deck it wasn't that useful. It made games that had a cursor more useable but swiping your thumb across a small pad was still a weak substitute for the proper range and precision of a mouse and pad. And any FPS controlled better using flickstick with gyro.

>>737552067
notice you didnt call me a liar or that i was wrong

>>737552181
Your point isn't even worth disproving, that controller offers nothing worth their price unless you enjoy replacing a controller every year.

>>737550984
>Just like every valve product
Except the 'eck, or the Index, or Steam Link, or the 2015 controller.
The only real fail Valve has had were the Steam Machines, and those had a big reason: no games due to running Linux. That has been fixed since 2018 with Proton and doesn't apply to a controller anyway.

>>737552258
>2 replies
>still coping
sneed and feed

>>737552297
Those are all great products, everyone owns them. That was like the next iPhone. Somewhat of a steamdustrial revolution, were witnessing history here boys they put a shitty ball track pad on a shitty ds3 demake.

>>737552321
Logitech F310 is $20 and lasts for years.

>>737549957
gyro is really good for aiming, especially in games with L2 to aim like MonHun and Resi

>>737551469
>$50 15 yeare ago is $100 now
It was 10 years ago. And back then first party controllers were $60. $70 is the most likely price.
>the $150 reveal
Why would it be that expensive? Valve has already said they don't plan to sell this as a "pro" controller. And unlike sony or microsoft who are selling theirs for profit, Valve has no need to sell it for that much because they passively make 10 times what the controller will ever sell through Steam every day.

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>>737552439
>Logitech F310
lmfao

>>737551641
>watch this piece of shit steam controller be 120 instead of 60$
It'll be much closer to $60 than $120. Seethe.
>and they have the exact same features as a 8bitdo controller
Which 8bitdo controller has trackpads, capacitive sticks, capacitive grips, and full Steam input support?

Secured a controller pre order

>>737549957
Try an adapter, I never had any issues with it.

>>737550561
It's extremely versatile. It has so many inputs, you won't have to remember specific hotkey combinations when emulating and you want to access emulation settings, fast forward, save/load states etc.

>>737550232
I paid $25 for a Gulikit ES Pro.

>>737542739
I've heard a lot of 8bitdo controllers have really bad deadzone problems

>>737552559
>closer
lmfao
>which controller has shit no one uses
i dont care about any of that shit i will never use in a video game

>>737552179
>It's not the touchpads, is it?
It is. Along with having a controller that has the other features of the 'eck to use on PC.
>From my experience with the Deck it wasn't that useful
You just didn't use them enough. They have a learning curve but if you stick with them, you'll never want to use anything else.
>It made games that had a cursor more useable but swiping your thumb across a small pad was still a weak substitute for the proper range and precision of a mouse and pad
That's because you have thousands of hours of experience and muscle memory with a mouse. The trackpads aren't inherently any worse.
They're also not just useful for mouse input, but also for touch menus in games that have more actions than the controller has buttons.

>>737552392
>Those are all great products
Correct.
>everyone owns them.
Wrong. That's not what I was saying.
>they put a shitty ball track pad on a shitty ds3 demake.
Nothing shitty about it.

>>737552439
Yeah you get what you pay for. It has no trackpads, no gyro, no back buttons and no capacitive sticks or grips.

>>737552681
>>closer
>lmfao
Yes. As in $70 to $80, both of which are closer to $60 than to $120.
>i dont care about any of that shit
Retard.
>i will never use in a video game
I can't imagine willingly crippling myself like this. Well, I guess it's not crippling yourself since you don't have the IQ to adapt to them in the first place.

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>>737552179
>I don't understand why people are hyped for the controller
steamfags are retarded most people with PCs have a kbm on their desk and a wirless keyboard with mousepad for when they are chilling on a couch or whatever, the trackpads on this controller will never be used

>>737552716
Touchpads will never be as accurate as a mouse, Anon. They are there as a bridge for controller players, but with gyro these days they are very close.

I just want controllers to be more than DualShock 2 revisions

>>737552904
Dumb fuck look for all the excuses to buy this bullshit you are not convincing me i have zero reasons to buy this >>737552910

>>737552915
>>737552910
Steamies are zoomers who have never used a laptop or touchpad since they grew up on ipads unlike millenials and boomers. You have to forgive them.

>>737552910
I have that and I will buy Steam Controller

>>737552910
I use this as my main keyboard and will be buying the steam controller.
>>737553016
Lol same.

>>737552996
>>737552910
are you morons legitimately incapable of understanding the difference between a touchpad, that takes your entire hand to use and is awkward and a trackpad, that uses just your thumb? have you ever used a fucking phone in your life

>>737552915
What difference does it make? I find them stupid anyway, but unless you're playing a fps it shouldn't even matter that much.

>>737552915
>Touchpads will never be as accurate as a mouse
When used alongside gyro, they are. At least close enough that your skill will become the limiting factor before the hardware.
Keep in mind that we haven't really seen what trackpads and gyro are capable of yet. Most PC gamers have decades of experience aiming with a mouse, but no one has that kind of experience with gyro or trackpads yet.

>>737552910
Actually playing games on that would be hell. That's what the controller is for. To play games. Actually never mind I forgot I was on /v/.

>>737553083
You use trackpads with your fingers, not your entire hand. If you are moving your entire hand you are using it wrong. Good job exposing yourself, zoomer. Lmao

>>737553164
its not for playing games its for everything but gaming, im saying people use that other than the kbm on their desk when chilling on PC not gaming then use the controller to game meaning the trackpads are meaningless

>>737553098
Plenty of pros are playing console fps with gyro and stick, which is similar to trackpads. They still get stomped by mkb players every time. We can revisit this dicussion in 10 years, but I'm sure you'll come up with some new excuse like "oh pros just aren't practicing enough with the steam controller".

>>737553187
your entire hand has to be pulled away from everything else and be dedicated to just the touchpad and you're awkwardly doing things with your index finger instead of getting the manouverability of the thumb and having your other fingers free
that's the fucking difference you incomprehensible idiot

>>737553280
Steamies already made that excuse. The original steam controller had gyro and the dual trackpads, but no one used it seriously for a reason. There's a reason why Valve's new controller has dual sticks - they know the pads are used mainly for inputs and on mouse only games.

>>737553225
>people use that other than the kbm on their desk when chilling on PC not gaming then use the controller to game
And now they can use a better controller for gaming.
>meaning the trackpads are meaningless
How so? They make the experience of playing better on tons of games.

>>737553329
>your entire hand has to be pulled away from everything else and be dedicated to just the touchpad
Just like handling a mouse? You realize you use it to move, scroll, left click, and right click too right?

Lmao you zoomers are so fucking stupid. The iphone generation really is cooked. No more (You)s.

>>737553225
>the trackpads are meaningless
PC is about customization. These trackpads have plenty of customization options. Emulating on Steam Deck is more comfortable to me than with regular controller, even DS4 or DualSense despite having touchpads, because Deck trackpads can actually be comfortably binded to do specific actions, like opening emulation menu, pausing, fast forwarding, saving and loading and managing save slots

This argument is about as good as controller grips for phones invalidating portable or hybrid consoles. Unless you put them in your hands, you won't understand.

The Steam Controller trackpads are meant to be used with your thumbs, just like the Steam Deck. They are unironically good and a lot faster than this piece of garbage >>737552910 for games which do not have controller support.

>>737538065
Thank you valbe for creating more e-waste

>>737553390
>And now they can use a better controller for gaming.
it does nothing that a normal controller cant do
>make games better to play
no one is using a trackpad over a analogue stick with controllers and no one is using a trackpad over a mouse and no one is using the trackpad over a logitech k400 keyboard when not gaming because the controller doesnt have a keyboard its just retarded on all fronts if its the same price as a 8bitdo etc then sure maybe its worth looking at but i dont see a reason otherwise

>>737553469
>emulation
the only thing i can see is DS and that console sucked

>>737553516
i said not for games learn to read

Hey speaking of controllers why are there cheap options for flightsticks but you always have to pay out the nose for a racing wheel

>>737553426
and a mouse is directly superior to a laptop touchpad
you can't say the same about an 'eck and steam controller, only one finger is used for moving the mouse and it's more ergonomic than a laptop touchpad with you being able to press way more buttons than even a mouse with all the other fingers that occupy a mouse hand
i understand you just want to be a contrarian but please shut the fuck up if you're going to say shit you just don't fucking understand and never tried

>>737553641
People can tell that a racing wheel feels inauthentic, most people will never get to get near a real flight stick

>>737538065
Give me one reason why I should care about a machine which has hit or miss game support and doesn't support anti cheat for popular multiplayer games?

>>737553729
it's cubical

Nothing beats Dualsense

>>737553563
>it does nothing that a normal controller cant do
It lets you aim with accuracy comparable to a mouse. It gives you more buttons than a normal controller, comparable to a keyboard.
>no one is using a trackpad over a analogue stick
Why not? It's better. And even if you stick to sticks, you can still use them as touch menus.
>no one is using a trackpad over a mouse
Why not? Sitting on the couch with the trackpad controller is more comfortable than sitting up straight at a desk.

>>737553729
because you're not goycattle interested in the timewasting genre?

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>>737552530
sorry sir but you have been dethroned from the $20~ controller spot

>>737553767
I found it worse for clawing dependent games like DMC5 Dante than DS4

>>737553860
Games that need you to play claw unironically aren't worth playing

Is Steam Frame still expected to be the most straightforward all in one package on the market that isn't in Facebook ecosystem?

>>737553563
>the only thing i can see is DS and that console sucked
NTA but I use the trackpads for emulator functions. You can have up to 16 savestates on the other one with one of the backbuttons to switch between saving and loading and other miscellaneous functions like fast forward on the other one.

I'm so happy fewer and fewer companies still do the shit ass asymmetrical xbox layout. That shit belongs to the garbage bin.

>>737553225
There are games I can comfortably play on my Steam Deck that I don't like playing on normal controllers.

Some games have menus that are more comfortable to navigate with the touchpads. Sometimes I set up custom radial menus on my touchpads to open certain menus or perform certain actions. On occasion I use it for precision aiming for certain task, having it act like an analog stick alternative that I can freely swap between. I will set it up to where gyro only enables if it detects my finger on the right track pad.

I've even played shit like Runescape on my Steam Deck with zero issues. Even disregarding the touch screen. I can comfortably play that game with just the normal controller layout and the touchpad. I could never bring myself to play Runescape on an Xbox or Playstation controller.

I just like the options I have with the layout. I don't use the track pads for every game, but they're nice when I want them. The steam controller layout simply allows me to play more things with ease on controller. I play a lot of games at my desk with keyboard and mouse, but sometimes I want to sit back in front of my TV and play games on controller. I like having a controller with lots of versatility. I also prefer the Playstation layout and have never liked the Xbox or Nintendo one. So Steam controllers are one of my few controller alternatives.

I feel sorry for the Indians Valve pays to pretend that playing PC games on a touchpad while your mouse and keyboard are in the next room is something people would actually do

>>737553923
Clawing would not be a problem with back buttons

>>737553820
If that's the case I can still pick up some shitty laptop or optiplex with windows and still be able to do more than a steam machine.

>>737554080
>i feel sorry for people who want controllers that can do more than shit from 20 years ago
ok?

>>737553767
Right now, true. That'll change soon, possibly even within a couple hours when this releases.

>>737554246
Does it have adaptive triggers as well? Would consider it then.

>>737554175
>willingly subjecting yourself to windows
Why would anyone ever do this?

>>737554175
feel free to be cattle that willingly uses windows or desecrate the cube with windows
your lack of dignity is not my concern

>>737554494
cope, linuxtroon.
Windows is purely better than your shitos

>>737554543
ranjesh please...

>>737554445
I don't think so.

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>>737554543
uh huh

>>737554739
stop being poor and just get a better pc, retard

>>737549051
>Doesn't redirect to cuckold simulator
/v/ is losing its energy

>>737554806
Why would I splurge on a new PC and then cripple it with wangblows instead of using it to its full potential with Linux?

>>737554739

>cherrypicking

>>737554920
>full potential
>troonix
lmao
you're crippling your device if you install an OS made for 3rd worlders like troonix

>>737554806
but linux makes your pc better already
just admit you're too stupid for linux and have baby duck imprinted yourself to an operating system that's been going down the toilet for the past decade

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>>737554806

>best you can do is wishlist
I guess I'm never going to be able to buy this. Where I live the only way to get a steamdeck is to buy a used one

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>>737555051
using more ram is proof of windows being better. How much were people in the 90s doing with 512mb ram? Exactly: almost nothing.
So windows using more means it's doing more.
Again, if you are anti-windows you are poor.

>>737554978
>>full potential
>>troonix
>lmao
Yes. Linux runs games better as seen 2 posts ago, so using windows is equivalent to crippling yourself and Linux is using your PC to its full potential.
>an OS made for 3rd worlders
You mean microdick jeetdows?

>>737550561
I have a bunch of games I can't play without a pad (all sports games. skateboarding, snowboarding, bikes, all games that need both analog sticks), or just don't play right with keyboards (racing games). And the trackpad means I can play my strategy games while lounging in my chair. I'm also interested to see how it can work in a video editing suite or in a DAW.

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>>737554963
>cherrypicking
oh you mean that thing wincucks do to desperately stop the bleed of people fleeing an operating system headed by a jeet and his 18k jeet employees?

>>737555179
>So windows using more means it's doing more.
Not necessarily. Wangblows is also made by jeets so it's less optimized and doing less with the same amount of memory. But it's also doing more. It's spying on you and sending that data directly to israel.

>>737552910
I have one of these for my "media PC" and I would NEVER use that for gaming, or any application that's not just opening a video file or browsing youtube.

Only 1200$. Amazing that we can play ps4 games for such an incredible price. This will pair perfectly with my Switch 2

>>737555051
ram usage has zero correlation with framerate performance, you mentally ill, tech illiterate incel.

>>737555461
try 800 retard

>>737542739
More like 8shitdo.

>>737554010
Probably

>>737550185
This, same with laptops that have touchscreen.
>just don't use it!!
They could have made a nicer normal screen for the same price.

>>737556004
correct, ram usage just displays the amount of resources windows needs to burn to fuel its garbage webapp based ui and telemetry
still looks bad and you can't change that

>>737549346
It's optional, you can have gyro active at all times if you want.

>>737550185
what controller do you use?

>>737554010
If no one releases an ARM Linux headset with an open bootloader before then, then yes.

>>737557261
are we sure this thing is going to have an open bootloader
i would love the knock on effect of getting rid of jeetdroid from my phone but aren't the armcuck corpos against that?

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YOU BETTER BE RELEASING IT ON SOUTH AMERICA THIS TIME GABEN
YOU BETTER FUCKING BE

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>>737550038
>tactile feedback
I mean I love track balls too, but I've not seen one in any modern controller.

>>737550185
There's a billion GameSARRs out there for you, faggot.

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>>737558365

>>737550038
Haptic gets really really close though, you have to at least admit that.

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>>737559486
Dualsense is genuinely one of the better controllers i've used purely because of haptics.
Bit disappointed by how it feels in Death Stranding 2 compared to 1 though. There's so much shit you can do with them.

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I was so close to buying a GameSAAR last month. Glad I hesitated

I just want to get away from the retarded meta ecosystem. I purposely hide my quest 2 as to not trigger some mic and recording system. Meta is such a shady ass company thats corrupt idk why give kids access to instagram

>>737558365
kek don't hold your breath

>>737558365
Why would you do this to yourself, you know it won't come here officially.

RELEASE THE STEAM FRAME YOU FATFUCK

>>737539083
>I really liked the first steam controller except for the triggers, face buttons, and thumbsticks
That's like saying you really like pizza except for the bread, sauce and cheese

>>737560715
I hope someone manages to make a compatibility layer between Quest exclusive games and Frame or OpenXR (?) in general

>>737564976
I can see the point with the triggers, because the dual stage triggers are cool, but the thumbstick on the Steam controller is like deciding to make an inside-out Calzone.

>>737538382
no

>>737564795
I need it so bad...

>>737564795
>>737566596
Thinking about getting the frame and controller.
Is VR worth it yet? Bought Alyx for 17 bucks.

>>737567079
>Is VR worth it yet?
No.

>>737567079
the current gamble is that the frame will revive it by unfucking its problems and decoupling it from zuck's shitware

>>737567079
No. I'm just hoping for a revival with it's release. That and VR porn.

>>737568873
HNNNNNG I'M GONNA BUST I NEED IT NOW

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>>737569085
i just hope the shoulder buttons are better than on the first version

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>>737569414
STOP FUCKING TEASING ME OR I'LL BLOW ALL OVER YOU HNNNNNNNG JESUS CHRIST

So is Linux able to run VR games now? Or will I have to install Windows on my steam machine to play VR?

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Steam wheel when?

>>737538065
lol i hope it comes out the open ai cartel is shutting down all my win 10 pcs cuz i wont upgrade
my win 8 750m laptop still works lol

Will you be able to use the Playstation controllers with the steam machine?
I want to get one for my gf so we can play games together but she hates the shape of my steam controller in her hands.

>>737567079
Not if you think that native VR games are going to be a thing.
The current consultant grift is very interconnected and they're trying to push for enterprise applications for VR with enterprise pricing and licensing schemes, which means that they hate consumer VR and would prefer that it does not get support, because that would mean cheaper headsets that can likely sidestep whatever grift they're planning with a cheaper solution.
Consequently any game needs someone actively pushing for VR and expending clout and favors if VR support is supposed to be implemented, because otherwise the company will not lift a finger for it, and even then it's going to be that one guy's hobby project.
There's just so many games where a lacking VR mode sticks out like a sore thumb.
>>737570519
Linux can run VR games it all depends on whether the headset has Linux support, either due to having decent Linux drivers (mostly reserved for SteamVR headsets using Monado/Envision) or being standalone and connecting to WiVRN/ALVR.

>>737570968
Can you use them on a Linux pc?

>>737570968
>>737571181
Yes.

I just don't understand who wants this
for all the people on /v/ I see jerking off over the touchpads I've never heard a single person in real life that I know who have the deck actually enjoy it. And in fact it was pretty much the single biggest complaint against the original controller, the touchpad was complete dogshit.

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>>737538065
finally

>>737570968
>she hates the shape of my steam controller in her hands
Do you mean the original? Because the new one is shaped differently.

>>737571689
have you considered reading the specs sheet instead of being clueless?
it's fucking flawless

>>737571903
it looks like literally every other controller on the market but with the hall effect joysticks put in by default instead of needing a mod, and then some trackpads shoved on the bottom making it a weird square shape.
What on the specs sheet am I looking for? The fuck-ass proprietary magnetic connector?

>>737571717
You shouldn't have that much stored on steam, if you're account gets jacked valve wont refund you.

>>737572193
people's accounts don't just "get jacked". You have to deliberately fuck up for it to happen.

>>737572046
it's better than every other controller in existence
that's all you need to know
this is like asking why people talk about the 5090

>>737572475
I've literally never heard anyone say a single good thing about the 5090, in fact, every time it's ever discussed, I see people say "just get a 4090 instead". Or rather, did, before nvidia recalled all stock to sell to AI datacenters.

>>737571689
It's the trackpads mostly, but it also has the capacitive sticks from the 'eck which no other controller has, the grip sense thing, and 4 back buttons which work natively through Steam input.
>I've never heard a single person in real life that I know who have the deck actually enjoy it.
All that means is that no one you know has bothered to give them a chance. They're super useful once you actually put in the time to learn them.
>And in fact it was pretty much the single biggest complaint against the original controller, the touchpad was complete dogshit.
No? The main issue was that it lacked a dpad and right stick, which meant most games either wouldn't work or needed a lot of tinkering to get to a usable layout. The trackpads were the best part about it, and in fact the selling point.

>>737573270
>capacitive sticks which no other controller has
TMR sticks are an extremely common modkit and have been for years, they're like $5 extra on a SCUF. It would have been new and unseen 4 years ago when hall effects were still the rage.
>once you put in the time to learn them
the whole reason I personally use a controller is how intuitive they are. I don't want to "learn" to use something 0 games support on their own and you have to do some orgasm girl tier fiddling to make use of.
>the main issue blah blah blah
okay buddy just go look at the reviews for the steam controller, they're still up.

>>737570521
Why did they paint his skin brown?

>>737572193
you don't get jacked unless you're stupid

>>737573512
>TMR sticks
Not TMR sticks. The capacitive sticks that detect if your finger is on the stick. They're great for toggling gyro.
>the whole reason I personally use a controller is how intuitive they are. I don't want to "learn" to use something
Fair. It's probably not for you then. Personally, I use a controller not for simplicity but just to play on the couch. With this, I won't have to sacrifice anything compared to KBM.
>0 games support on their own and you have to do some orgasm girl tier fiddling to make use of.
It's not that bad. Basically every game has multiple layouts made and tested by people playing. You just need to pick one. Though if you just want simplicity I get you might not want to do that either.
>just go look at the reviews for the steam controller, they're still up.
Baby ducks being unable to adapt to something new doesn't mean the new thing is bad. With that mentality, we'd still be using a dpad and 4 buttons.

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Are the trackpads actually meant for fps games? I figured it was for clicking menus

>>737553329
Actually when I had a high quality trackpad on an old Toshiba from like 2010 I could use my thumb to use the trackpad while using the full keyboard. It actually gave me a huge advantage in certain games where the game expected you to have to split between keyboard and mouse.

>>737553729
Why the fuck would you want to play bad games?

>>737568873
wtf spoiler that shit

>>737575131
No, you use gyro and flickstick for FPS. It's for strategy games or extra inputs.

Anyone know how Valve typically does things? It's pretty late for me and I was thinking if I should just go to sleep or if there's a chance it'll go up within an hour or two? What time does Valve typically do this stuff?

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>>737575943
No.

>>737572264
when I was a kid I wanted to get back at a faggot kid who tried to start shit
I made an email in his name, contacted steam support saying I got hacked or something, asked me for proof of payment and I was like "idk i'm a kid" and they just gave his account to me

>>737550561
I used the first Steam controller to play Darkest Dungeon before it got official pad support and it worked great

>>737550561
menus with free analog movement are ass to navigate through with thumbsticks. A trackpad would be great for that.

>>737538762
setting up bots so I can scalp them on ebay, sorry chud

>>737552462
Having steam input become a dev standard over x-input would probably be something valve would like right? So keeping the controller price competitive would be in their interest to increase the adoption rate by both developers and gamers.

>>737575131
probably still better than an analog stick, but you'll want to use gyro for shootan. trackpad is just for whatever you'd use a trackpad on a laptop for, so, as a mouse. it's quite nice for games that let you controller and mouse input at the same time, since you can use the trackpad for the menus.

>>737550631
I have a 8bitdo keyboard and mouse and they've worked well so far.

>>737549060
Sucks but better than the prices from other first party platform holders with way shittier controls.

>>737548194
this but shitendo fanatics.

>>737571689
>I just don't understand who wants this

The same people who want the thing on the bottom, feminized men. Pretty soon there won't be a steering wheel, just a speaker you talk into and tell it where you want to be taken.

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>>737584051
Fuck forgot the picture

>>737584051
feminized men are the ones who have no issue with typical controllers
the amount of faggotry required to not want it to use your raw inputs and instead cope with aim assist is just undescribable

>>737550719
Is that a man and his dyke?

>>737550561
For me it's to use while the Steam Deck is docked to the TV.

>>737553856
This. For me, it's Gamesir.

>>737573512
>those sticks are so great that people mod their controllers to have them
What an amazing argument against the steam controller.
>instant gratification or death
I'm fine with you having either of those things.
>okay buddy
I don't understand why you are reeing like that.
>why go to the food anaology when the dog food analogy is much cheaper and quicker
That's how you sound.

>>737577865
Uh huh.

Release it already you FAT FUCK.

>>737550191
The loss leaders are the games. You dont put your biggest ticket items out as loss leaders.

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pre-orders tomorrow inshallah

>>737590137
Xbox and Playstation were loss leaders bro.

>>737590591
consoles are not loss leaders, they're calculated discounts because the hardware is locked into the ecosystem and sony and microsoft will get paid if you buy anything for it

Who else is going to use the grip sense to auto-pause games when you set down the controller? Am I the only person who thinks that would be cool?

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>>737577865
this is how a jeet got my (((LinkedIn))) account. had to send them a pic of my fucking drivers license to make them realize how retarded they were. btw this has apparently happened to a ton of people, to the point that even some journoids wrote about it happening to them (pic is one), and they still haven't done anything to solve the vulnerability.

I want the VR shit. I never used VR so it looks like a good entry.

>>737594174
You're not getting a good VR experience for shit on a laptop rx 6600m

>>737584158
Honestly it's nice looking aside from the gayass fuckhueg tablet, but Mazda has seriously lost the plot on what people liked about them. Muh premium was a fucking mistake in companies around the globe, and not just the ones in the auto industry

>>737592354
>they're calculated discounts because the hardware is locked into the ecosystem and sony and microsoft will get paid if you buy anything for it
anon... that's a loss leader...

>>737594174
Make sure your PC can handle it. Your system has to render the equivalent of two high resolution displays at 90fps steady to make a good experience.

>>737550561
ever single game that makes you navigate a launcher menu at startup

>>730083443
>>730083590
>>730083717

>>737552910
This is not very comfortable to use on a couch

>>737538065
YOU CAN HAVE A STEAM FRAME
IF YOU JUST LAY DOWN YOUR TRACKS