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>appeals to Diablo 2 fans
>the classes are boring as fuck again
I'm going back to Diablo 3
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>>737540091
Why does he look Indian?
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>>737540145
The character creator is an abomination
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>>737540091
>appeals to Diablo 2 fans
as a diablo 2 fan I won't touch d4 again after that utter dogshit of a game I played on d4 launch
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>>737540091
>Diablo 3
Not on PC. Once you've tried playing Diablo with a gamepad, the game becomes unplayabe without one.
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>>737540091
Also the fact that the game uses the phrase "classic medieval weaponry" just threw me off. It totally ruins the immersion and just sounds wrong.
Also the character selection screen just looks boring. It’s hard to beat the bonfire from Diablo 2, and the only thing that comes even remotely close is the gallows from PoE 2.
>>737540215
Aren’t paladins and crusaders tied to specific races in Diablo? Like in Diablo 2 they were all black and in Diablo 3 they became white blondes. Have they at least explained why the character can now be absolutely anything? It was quite a big deal for Paladins in Diablo 3 if I remember correctly.
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>>737540091
Is this an AI generated game?
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>>737540287
You faggots said Diablo 3 was dogshit and it's one of the most kino games I've ever played
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>>737540291
Agreed. Shame PC version has no gamepad support.
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>>737540516
the gameplay is decent but the character customisation is bad and the atmosphere isn't as strong as 1 and 2
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idk how they managed to make this shit so soulless and boring
it's actually impressive given how many resources blizz had how it has absolutely no soul
like they tried so hard to appeal to the d2 and poe crowd and just made something with zero personality
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>>737540516
Preach!
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>>737540091
I hate that there's no ranged class. Rogue is 50% melee skills so it really doesn't fulfill the archer fantasy and lacks options.
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>>737541023
Dude, we needed two expansions for a proper sword-n-shield class.
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>>737541124
> proper sword-n-shield class
>paladin
You’ll be throwing hammers and you’ll be happy. It’s just like Diablo 2!
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>>737540091
Diablo Immortal has better classes tbqh
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>paladin
>not black
Fuck off
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>>737540291
truth
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>>737541208
They became Aryans in Diablo 3
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>>737541208
you can be any race in d4
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>>737541208
You can adjust the skin color to anything you like. So not only can you make the blackest ghetto nigger paladin, you can even make him a saar. Or worse, a woman.
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>>737541124
Where's the sword and shield gameplay exactly?
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>>737540907
Too much use of AI generation in the continued updating of this game. No human was involved in designing this.
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>>737540091
D4 Barb is fucking great, I dunno what you are talking about
I like that you actually get to use weapons, not just Magically Conjure a giant Hammer or whatever like in D3
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>>737541254
those are Crusaders who are different from Paladins
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>>737542368
Aren’t they just paladins who have gone on a crusade?
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>>737540415
>Aren’t paladins and crusaders tied to specific races in Diablo?
You can literally customize your character in D4, so it literally doesn't fucking matter.
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>>737540291
Unironically D3 with controller support on PC is my wish
Played with on a switch with controller and it's comfy as fuck, literally the best thing ever
Shame it'll never happen
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>>737540291
Not adopting the control scheme from the console version of diablo 3 for diablo 4 was the first major red flag for me.
Luckily diablo 4 sucked. Sadly, no other action rpg tried to reproduce the arcade feeling of Diablo 3,
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>>737542397
They were Paladins that branched off when they first started noticing all the corruption within the Zakarum Faith because of Mephisto's bullshittery.
Technically the D4 Paladins are another offshoot of Zakarum, they call themselves the Lightsworn and seem to be trying to repent for the Sins caused by those Corrupted.
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>>737542420
It still matters because these characters have lore. Crusaders/paladins changing skin colour was literally a major plot point in the Diablo 3 expansion.
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>>737542397
they are the only paladin order that has never fallen to corruption
unrelated to this, they are the only white one
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>>737542474
>Technically the D4 Paladins are another offshoot of Zakarum
That’s exactly what I wanted to know. At least they haven’t rewritten the old paladins/crusaders out of the blue.
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>>737540516
The game started as a horrible mess and took 12 years of updates to reach the comfy balanced state it is in. Ask anyone that played on release and of course they'll say it's a garbage game, because it was.

What is the funniest to me is that every change they're doing to D4 since they released it are from D3 so who knows, maybe in 6-7 years the game will be playable
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>>737542397
Paladins were officially sanctioned by the Zakarum church to protect devotees and believers. They were a public knight order under the churches command while Crusaders are a secret sect that left the church because a priest sensed Mephisto's corruption.

Crusaders are like a pure continuation of the original while most palas were corrupted.
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Is Diablo 4 any decent now or is it still a clusterfuck?
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>>737542667
It’s only got worse. They’ve only started to pander to MMO faggots even more
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>>737542667
casual fun for 2-3 days once a year
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>>737542667
it's probably better then PoE2 to be honest
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>>737542630
>The game started as a horrible mess and took 12 years of updates to reach the comfy balanced state it is in
Bullshit. Reaper of Souls turned it into the gem we know, and that was released 2 years after the original.

>>>737542667
It's still a boring gray slog
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>>737542616
You actually run into the Crusaders in D4, but they seem to have really fallen on hard times. Most of the order got wiped out, and if a Crusader dies without training a proper apprentice first then they are "lost" forever.
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>>737542806
That’s obvious. They were pretty fucked up even in Diablo 3.
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>>737540661
There's character customisation in D3 besides choosing male or female?
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>>737543003
No
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>I'm going back to Diablo 3
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>>737540091
>classic medieval weaponry
what an odd description
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>>737542887
Mankind in general is really fucked up, because Mathael apparently wiped out like 80% of the human population during RoS. Westmarch in particular is basically a giant, cursed ghost town that will never recover (when before it was basically the Sanctuary version of London)
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>>737543061
That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s as if it was written by an AI or some outsource worker who didn’t know what they were doing and couldn’t care less.
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>>737540291
I dunno, you get fuck all character control on a gamepad, no? Can't imagine playing an ARPG as a twinstick shooter.
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>>737542667
If you're like me and enjoy a good old fashioned mindless grind it can be fun for a couple weeks at a time
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>>737540145
because he's a SAAAR of the dung table
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>>737543403
>he never played the console version of diablo 3
Try it out! It's awesome.
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>>737540145
Because Paladins originated in Zakarum, which is the not!India of the setting.
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>>737540145
why does he look like a soft faggot is the more pertinent question
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>>737543247
I wouldn't be surprised. Apparently they just released a WoW patch so bad they had to go to Reddit and publicly apologize. AI or jeets who knows.
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>>737543802
I thought that was the sandnigger setting.
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>>737543403
You simply won't understand until you try it, you're living in plato's cave right now
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>>737544153
No, that would be the Lut Gholein area (Aranoch).
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>>737540415
>>737542420
>>737542483
In the setting's lore, Paladins originated with the Church of Zakarum, which was based in the not! India and not!Śouth-East Asia of the world. Then it spread all around the world.

TL;DR: Paladins can be any colour.
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Why play diablo-likes when souls-likes exist?
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>>737544504
Soulslikes dont have random loot
Bloodborne was the closest but they never iterated on chalice dungeons
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>>737544546
Niohchads win again, best of both worlds

Except you don't actually get loot with really cool effects until NG+ in most cases
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>>737544984
>Except you don't actually get loot with really cool effects until NG+ in most cases
this is also the problem with nioh because it's actually NG+++++ that has the useful sets and by then you're back to doing "normal" damage while the enemy gets to one shot you
and I like nioh btw if you couldn't tell
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>>737545926
3 has gone in a slightly better direction in that regard because you can at least get star stats in regular NG, and the update coming soon will add stone of pennance
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>>737540291
>>737540592
>>737542426
>>737542438
>>737543403
https://github.com/god-jester/d3hack
disable all the cheating stuff and use this with an emulator
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the game STILL looks like a mobile game
lacks skills impact
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>>737542667
It's probably the first entirely AI generated game. There is not a single compelling game system in there. It's pure derivative slop.



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