>Worldbuilding consists of characters vaguely mentioning "the war"
Ah, yes, Pokemon.
>worldbuilding consists of [cut before final release]
>worldbuilding
>>737546962I like it when people mention a historical event, but it has a ridiculous name, like "the capybara crisis".
>wordbuilding is that big bad empire is attacking small bad empire but the big bad empire is actually good and the emperor is a sassy black woman, and also the small empire is good because it’s just painfully boring and impotent.
Yes? Seems rather common: if you look at contemporary anglophone examples, "interwar" is clearly understood to refer to the time between the World Wars, "postwar" refers to the time after WW2, and "antebellum" at least in America means the time leading to the US Civil War. And that's with some temporal and cultural distance to the events, while presumably in these examples "the war" looms even larger.
>>737546962>game starts with an exposition dump
>>737547480
>>737547761Wtf is this?
>>737547761>orc>orc>orc>elfMan I fucking hate elves.
>>737546962I mean its accurate everyone in my country refer to ww2 as"the war"
>>737547480>the capybara crisisWe don't joke about that around here anon, those little bastards almost wiped us out, only thing worse was the emu plague of 2031
>>737547480it think that's why TES is so successful with its world building, a lot of huge events have fairly tame names>the warp in the west>the battle of red mountain>the oblivion crisis
>>737547480>the emu war
>the breaking>the shattering>the cataclysm>the fracture>the doom>the rending>the schism>the rift
>>737546962> this extremely effective world building technique Yes, that is how you build a world. Saged btw
>>737546962Well it would be fairly boring if everyone vaguely talked about>the holiday
>>737547146This game is pure evil
>>737547679GWOT never got a cool epithet.
>>737547285>vidya based on surreal alien art has a vague, wordless plot and a mysterious world>this bewilders the /v/tardSometimes it's better for a game to keep things ambiguous and leave you in the dark to retain a sense of mystery and alienation, instead of cramming every little detail about the world down your throat with drawn-out cutscenes and obnoxious, chatty NPCs. Download the art book if you want to understand the world so badly. It's all a metaphor for sex, conception, fetal development, and eventual stillbirth, by the way, with the protagonists representing gametes.
>>737548157>the disunion>the rupture>the undoing>the unbinding>the cracking>the depart>the strife>the fraying
>>737548478>eventual stillbirthreddit interpretation, otherwise agree
>>737548478while I understand and agree with parts of what your saying I think scorn just didn't bother worldbuilding at all in favor of being just an art piece for the sake of it making it infinitely less interesting as a videogame in the process
>>737547480>Finno-Korean Hyperwar
>>737548157>>737548520>all of these happened in the same setting
I completely ignore any story about "rebels" now. It's so fucking boring and overdone.
if you want the story to have a fucking fictional history lesson to flesh out the worldbuilding you're a fucking nerd. doing that just absolutely kills the narrative pacing, it should be relegated to side quests only if you're interested in that shit.
>>737549420What are they even rebelling against, clean streets?
>>737546962>A war-ravaged world with the fires of conflict reduced to a smolder within the collective memory of the people. Sounds good. Oh, I'm sorry, do you need an esoteric magic system? We gotta summon the soul of Frank Herbert and ply his wisdom to satisfy you? Bitchass.
>>737549057Well no, I've played CoD for a long time so that checks out
>And everything was cool...>...until...>...it wasn't!
>>737546962We literally call the two biggest ones World War 1 and 2, if any alien showed up they wouldn't have a fucking clue what those were.Stop being stupid.
>>737548785they didn't get to make the area with best worldbuilding because microsoft made them start over, the one with little battery people fighting each other with cyborgs
>Then the plague hit
>>737547761Reads like some literal race war manifesto kek.
Some post the excerpts from the books by Joseph Anderson.
>>737548887Elden Ring lore but it will never properly convey when these took place or how far apart.
>player doesn't get to know important lore because the game characters know the main character knows>main character doesn't tell you either
>>737547480>the troubles
>The Great SchismNah giving historical events a kino title is based.
Why would they say anything more? Do you also go around telling people about 9/11 and add the sentence "You know, when those planes flew into the twin towers"?I assume that if your character grew up in the setting he'd know what the "great catastrophic demon rift" is and what happened.
>>737551324This is why your MC should have amnesia
>>737548157>the rape
>>737550973>player doesn't get to know important lore because the devs want the Game Theory audience, so there's just a bunch of vague cryptic hints scattered on random textures of newspaper clippings and/or abstract metaphorical dream sequence-like cutscenes>main character possibly knows everything already too, but is either a silent protagonist or is also being cryptic and vague about everything>which is for the better because the lore is ultra contrived and stupid as fuck when it finally gets pieced together
>>737548887Yeah, that was a rough year.
>>737551412Or just go down the Morrowind route. You arrive in a backwater island and have no idea about its history. A mayor event there might not even have been relevant where you are from.Plus, said event is getting twisted to fit the narrative of various groups. That's the best choice
>major characters the hero is allied with already knows the important lore>he's not gonna tell you though, because you aren't ready yet or something>he's just going to occasionally namedrop stuff from it and then stay silent or suddenly leave whenever the hero asks what that is
>>737546962>>737547480>"you fought in the clone wars?"I actually really enjoyed hearing after watching the trilogies in chronological order.
>story is about you being le chosen one>plot twist is that you're actually not the chosen one but it's so played out that you call it ages ago
>>737546962>hates vagueness>vagueposts about a gameironic
>>737551019>the tiff with the rapscalions>the spot of bother
>>737551550This is kino as long as the gameplay is good enough that the story isn’t that important
>love interest takes care of your missile
>>737551568It's Thursday.
>>737552942>the missile takes care of your lover
>>737554401>Cucked by a missile
>worldbuilding consists of characters and in-universe items mentioning some ancient civilization whos technology was all scattered around in ruins and is more advanced than the current setting>they are called the Precursors or The Ancients or some other generic name
>>737547816>>737548063kek
>>737554861They never recovered from this.
>>737548157>>737548520Name ONE game that uses any of these.
>>737547816Why is the man holding a football in the second panel? Is he secretly an American that wanted Australians to be killed by emus?
>>737554989>The ShatteringWoW Cataclysm
>>737555080That's a rugby ball.
>>737546962It's bizarre that this applies to Stardew Valley in two completely separated cases
>>737554989>The fractureE33
>>737554989>The RiftDA: Inquistion
>>737546962>namedropping random shit that's never explainedThread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PSFN2r6bXY
>>737548157>>737548520>the simplification
>>737546962>everyone just talks about "the war">not much information on it besides bland historical texts stating why the Empire of Durnwits seceded from the Commonality of the Federal Union blah blah>npcs say basic things like "oh yeah the war was rough haha", old soldier characters get shifty on the subject and don't say anything>events in the game cause "the war 2" to happen>it's actually hell on earth with multiple factions fighting and killing just for scraps of ammo or food>game difficulty ramps up to 11, enemies stop playing fair and use any tactic they can to kill you>go from fighting maybe 3 basic guys at a time to literally hundreds upon hundreds of soldiers that range from barely-trained conscripts, to anal-raping elite troopers, all with orders to take you down>prices in shops skyrocket and they only carry the most basic supplies while forcibly rationing your purchases>party mood goes from happy adventure group to pure panic, with everyone saying "Is my family alive? What about the king? Does chain of command even exist? Who stole my hardtack?!? I can't do this anymore...>finally understand the reason people never talked about the war, was because it was so nightmarishly horrifying that it basically gave everyone giga PTSD and it hurts to even think about talking about itNeed me a game that does this
>>737558082When will this patch arrive?God is clearly cooking something big.
>>7375591432 weeks.
>The capital is built on the ruins of an ancient powerful civilization that has complex underground structures buried all over the world containing magical secrets/limitless technology>Everyone knows about it but it's locked by a single magical door and no one figured another way in for over a thousand years
>>737546962World War 2.5
>>737558619Not the sudden change I suppose, but Fear and Hunger games do board the topic. And I guess Digital Devil Saga and Devil Survivor do too to a degree, specially the apocalypse now thing where even civilians start to gangbang each other and burn people alive.
>revealing lore tidbits is based on your stats>if you have low INT/WIS you have no fucking idea what is happening
>>737546962>"The Cataclysm" this>"The Cataclysm" that >finally find out what The Cataclysm was>it's a nothingburger that had no actual lasting effects except for one destroyed building that's only used as a background setpiece
>>737558619Vagrant Story games? The wars there are openly fucked up and genuinely mindrape the main cast sideways.
>>737554685>the Precursors turn out to just be a bunch of orange rats
>>737558619This would be really kino. But unfortunately, in reality we get "the really traumatic war where nobody actually died or anything, and the worst that happened was The Captain losing a leg from an infection 5 years after the war".
>>737555080That’s a New Zealander you dummy
>>737559428>ancient powerful civilization turns out to just be the 21st century world
>>737560963>>737560332>>737559970Even FFT will show you people getting actively butchered in war.
>>737546962>Worldbuilding is just an elaborate exploration of the dev's fetish
>Japanese game>"The Event that happened X years ago..." repeated ad nauseam>Turns out to be a thinly veiled nuke allegory They should really be kissing the United State's ass for giving them an infinite plot device for all their media.
pokemon has several "the war"s but none are at all expanded upon lol
>>737547480my favorite is the Nice Truck Attack
>>737558082>that bald guy in the back of the last panel
>>737549617this just reminds me of Atomic Heart...>huge ass city filled with futuristic technology where the Soviet Union won the Cold War>think this will be Bioshock 4 getting to explore Columbia >then you just go from bunker #1 to bunker #2 and so onI regret getting hyped for it
>>737563569Bioshock 3*
>>737561292Voices of the Void, The Citadel, Beyond Citadel, what else?..Not counting h-games for obvious reasons.
>>737563569The devs came out responding to questions about denuvo: dont worry, the game will have DLSS to make up for performance.
>fantasy setting>actually sci-fi>land trapped in an endless time loop by a benevolent god seeking to protect a fragment of humanity from an even greater calamity>final battle is a duel over the fate of mankind with the aforementioned god who plans on eradicating humanity after seemingly grown disillusioned after aeons of imprisonment>MC has blonde hair and overcomes an insane shitload of trauma and angst through sheer willpower and determination alone and everyone is naturally attracted by their strength, charisma and beauty despite them barely even talking>has a god-tier OSTThe fact I can name two games that fit this perfectly is fucking hilarious. I fucking love Astlibra and Chrono Ark so fucking much it's unreal.
>>737546962starfield?
>>737547480Sadly modern man just has a bunch of gay month + day names for historical events like 9/11, jan 6, october 7th
>>737546962I want to know what the amazon war in robocop was about
>>737547480>war over salt and iron>known as the Saltiron War
>>737547761You just know this writer got hired by Sony after this
>>737564778>>land trapped in an endless time loop by a benevolent god seeking to protect a fragment of humanity from an even greater calamitySMT4 also has this, though in SMT4 the land just has time drastically slowed down.
>>737547480the great ape war...
>The revered war hero has become a recluse and disappeared from public life many years ago>They're the actual big bad that only reveals themselves after the fake big bad is defeated>They want to "fix" the world because of the trauma they suffered in The War>And by fix they mean destroy itI feel like this kid of thing has happened in numerous games
>>737566264Ooh neat, I alwaya get a kick out of that whenever I see it in games. Plus I've been meaning to play a SMT game too.
>Game tries to make an in-universe simile like "as smelly as a Lokengard rafter's spawn"This shit is always so cringe, no matter how hard they try
>>737554989>The ShatteringElden Ring
>>737548478sounds jewish
>>737546962>Ad for new indie game pops up>”In my game, the world has ended!”
>>737550973>MC, I know you know what you've gone through... But you want me to remember you why you're traumatized?
>>737559143May 1st. The three days of darkness will begin. You'll start to see the signs on the 30th. Tears in the sky will begin to open up and there will be a blue/purple light. Some people will think that it is electro magnetic stuff going on from solar activity, like the normal northern lights, but it will move like lightning. Then the darkness will pour from the tears. It will start to consume everything and electronics will go haywire. Everything caught in the darkness will be frozen and the beings that lurk in it will find you and eat you. These beings will press themselves against houses, trying to seep into cracks. They will speak in voices that you know, to get you to look out, to open the door. Don't do it, just looking at them can kill you. The darkness can only be repelled by pure light. Use candles made from Bee's wax. Animal fat is not the best and other 'vegan' candles will not work and will be instantly snuffed out. If you are unable to get a candle, put your faith in Christ that he will save you and he will envelope you in his light. Once the three days of darkness is over, people will come out to look at the world and the rapture will begin.
>>737569718I hope this post is legit.I have BBQ planed on that day.
>>737567682It's more of a matter of not writing something people would actually say because they're focusing on whatever reference they're making. Nobody would be so wordy with it, and nobody would be stating the whole species name and not a more familiar one when the expectation is everyone knows what their fucking babies smell like.
>>737548803how do we gaslight coming generations that this actually happened?
>>737547480Argentine detected.
>>737558082>electricity goes out>everything goes back to the medieval era>including architecture for some reason???
>>737564152the citadel is an h-game thoughever
>>737570941Amish will keep the civilization rolling.
>>737546962that's real life tho
>>737571356>amish>medieval
>>737570941>comic seething because some tech nerd makes a lot of moneyIts not as bad as that one book series that made a solar flare take out all electronics and also tried to make it so guns didnt work anymore(somehow?) so a bunch of hema larpers took over.
>>737570941>>737572079also if anything less computers means even more office jobs because now you need to bring back all of the white collar jobs that computers replaced.
>>737567682>Marika's tits, you mist be 'ungryOnly good fictional phrase of exclamation.
>create custom character>custom character starts dumping exposition and loreso it wasn't "custom" after all.Fucking make up your mind, game.
>>737548157>>the doomDoom
>>737570772Why would we need to gasligh hem about historical fact?
>>737546962>>737547480
>>737548157>The taintMakes me giggle. Might as well call it the crundle.
>>737547480>THE REGNUM COCAINIUM
>>737546962>give zzz a try>100 hours in>still dont have a sligthest clue about what the fuck "hollow" is
>>737571351Is it? I guess could act as AGP fuel since the protag dresses like a slut, so what? Bloodrayne also did that, that don't make it h-game.As for gore, the game severely underdelivers on that front. People were insisting that these games are gore-heavy (as in ryona), but just about any Doom gore mod beats Citadel effortlessly.I'm yet to play Beyond Citadel, maybe it's more advanced in the gore department.
>>737567682ABSURD THAT YOU CAN'T GET GOOD SWEETROLLS IN THIS SKEEVER HOLE OF A CITY
>Nobody lives outside Haven, not a whole city.>One game later>Pic
>>737546962>setting is fictional, but seemingly pretty normal>there's actually something shockingly supernatural>and it's not even a secret, it's as well known as the sky or ocean>it's such a foundational thing that no one bothers to mention it to you because why would they
>>737572079Emberverse wasn't a solar flare.
>>737561292>the dev's fetish is emotional agony
>>737546962WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
>>737546962>>Worldbuilding consists of characters vaguely mentioning "the pandemic"
>>737578387>he makes a game set in 2026
>everything was fine… until someone took the relic
>imagining my own setting>throwing around stuff like GM wars, terrorist bioweapons, designer babies>half of it's already about to happen
>>737582610Reality will always surpass fiction because fiction needs to be credible enough.Reality justifies itself so it can get away with anything
>explore ruin>electric lights>broken machine and mad robots enemies>orichalcum items all over the place>boss is a giant computer screen running a defense protocol
>>737582841The official translation being sloppier than the fucks like a tiger fan translation is impressive.
>>737560069Which game?
>>737569718So my birthday happen to coincide with the three data of darkness, is this bad chat?
>>737548157The Prolapse
>>737547285Scorn? More like corn, because this game is corny as fuck.
Final Fantasy can be bad about this. Like with FF12, all this shit about judges and different places at war with each other made me fall asleep constantly. I don't care that judge cuckmonger is invading cucktown.
>>737548157the dankening
>>737565173I had the same thought lmao I guess no one else here has played it (can't blame them desu)
>>737583835fallout 1 and 2
>>737548157>>737548520>the divorce
>>737584207Something I always found Weird about FF12 is how Many words are Randomly Capitalised like This.
>>737567682Yeah, yeah, you scruffy looking nerf herder.
>>737559143Not until resource scarcity makes our knowledge and technology untenable. Which is to say not going to happen in the next 50K years.
>>737584913I want Aliens expansion next.
>>737551971aaah i cringed so hard at thisit's so fucking true
>Japanese game>The [Unfitting English Word]
>setting has plate armour>no gunpowder weapons
>>737549057Hail Othinn
>>737554685I is what I think of every time a Canadian says "First Nations".
>>737584853I'm Captian Bosch from Dalmasca!
>>737546962>World is left unnamed
>>737548520>>737548157>>737554989You forgot>the Calamity
>>737576275I never liked the setting of Jak 2/3, it felt like they just didn't care about worldbuilding and did whatever.
>>737555101I was going to say the Shattering was something else, but I was thinking of the Sundering.
>The Abyss
>>737546962>the lore you only read about in optional texts and character dialogue seems much cooler than anything that happens in the main story
>>737549420My favorite part of star wars is when the rebels win and rule the galaxy for decades yet still call themselves the Rebellion.
>worldbuilding becomes irrelevant or gets retconned once the characters and plot are developed enough to stand on their own
>>737549420Tropes are plot devices, plot devices can't be overdone. How many times a person has seen something before doesn't matter at all, what matters is the execution.
>>737576275>Jak 2>Metal Heads are the ultimate evil responsible for wiping out the Precursors>Jak 3>LMAO NEVER MIND HERE'S AN EVEN MORE EVIL FACTION
>>737586887>tfw no Nier prequel set in the Legion wars
>>737549539A lot of characters and stories that should be great fall flat because there's no world around them. They seem to exist in a bubble, where the world, how it influences them and how they influence it is barely touched on.
>>737546962whatever you do, don't mention the war
>Game has a very obvious Christianity stand-in religion.>The leading figure of worship is revealed to just be a normal revolutionary dude, pretty smart but ultimately human.>Got idolized and exaggerated so the church can take advantage of the people who convert, ultimately corrupting everything he stood for.
>>737563479>the guy he's kneeling in front of looks like Hank Hill
>>737567682That new ubisoft star wars game tried SUPER hard to force a fictional meme phrase like it'd always been in star wars. It's meant to be used the same way as "god dammit" but needed to be family friendly so what did they settle on? "Dank ferret." Seriously. Every time something goes wrong or a character gets annoyed they mutter "dank ferret." It's so bad.
>So that was the imprisoning board...
>>737588382To be somewhat fair to them, it must be one hell of a bitch to not be able to use such a common curse in a setting where it wouldn't make sense for it to exist. "Sith spit" was a better curse anyway, from a better game, too.
>>737548157>the fuckery
>>737586887The Elder Scrolls...
>>737588028>Final boss is the MC dying to Legion-Caim.
>>737547146>>737548403Explain
>>737547076first thing i thought of
