It's possible that if old games are kept alive gamers will spend less money on new games and that could hurt shareholder profits
Cause gacha games will eventually be killed
>>737548750This, also older games may present outdated or problematic jokes/viewpoints. Not to mention dev teams from back then were almost exclusively white and male. So, for a more equitable and inclusive gamespace, old games have got to go.We've got to allow a new generation of game devs to tell their stories: put the old games away.
>>737548702Don't post.You have nothing to offer the world.
It's called survival of the fittest, bub.
>>737548702It's antisemitic to limit profit of corporations
>>737548702Because i need to make more money on the companies i have shares, hurt the business if the players can stay on the same game after i force them to shutdown and make another gaas.Now i the company won't be able to force people into buy the new game..please guys, they're already cutting my slave illegals now this...
>>737548702Honestly I think this whole thing is a sham.
>>737548702Nigger
>>737548702I don't like certain individuals and I wish for their favorite game to be dead and gone so I can laugh at them
>>737548702Bastard
your toys don't matter
>>737548702>>737549507Rapist
they killed a complete generation of """men"""
>>737548702because manchildren will have to find something else to do than autistically obsess over a video game character
>>737548702Incel
>>737548702Assraper
>>737548702Shitface
>>737548702I enjoy the concordian timeline
>>737549694Fuckhead
>>737548750this, preserving games is antisemitism, it hurts jew profits and also reminds the goyim that they could have nice things if whites were developing software.
>>737549731Kike
>>737549543>video games are toysSure. Toys are still products and thus you own them. Lego isn't allowed to just destroy the old space set from their owners because it competes with their newest star slop set.
>>737548702Everything will become GAAS gacha as a result
because the games that die FUCKING SUCK
>>737548702Indie devs will get sued for not keeping their multiplayer unityslop online
>>737549775>>737549778Just a reminder that if you don't reply back I win!
>>737549808Don't care, shove it up your ass
>>737549838Haha! You reacted to my shitpost!
uh oh meltie
>>737549895At least my parents are alive.
>>737549923Wow! You sure showed him! /s
>>737548702all online only games are shit
>>737550059shut up you fat cunt
>>737548780truth nuke detected
>>737548702There is none.
>>737548702GaaS are good for shareholders, don't let these economic terrorists win!
>>737549862That's some solid 5g chess.
>>737548702There's too many games anyway. Every generation the sleight was wiped clean, but now there's just a build up of games and shit like WoW and FFXIV should be replaced instead of limping around forever.
>>737548702I need to kill the old game so that you're forced to buy the new version. Please stop.
>>737548702GTFO of my v you piece of shit.
Because devs clearly don’t want to do it and we should favour producers in the market
>>737551312Shutup you fuvkng nigger. The Division was great. Player count is required for multiplayer. Always online allows for more processing than can be done on a local console.Useless fucking monkey. You fucking traitor.
>>737554408Finally someone gets me!
>>737548702Regulation is bad because it puts companies in a bad position where they have to comply with too much stuff and less games get made>>737548702
>>737550135Cunt is the only part of a woman that should be puffy
>>737548702Its more equitable. The more games that are killed, the closer each console's library is to the PS3's.
>>737549505>>737549534>>737549552>>737549618>>737549660>>737549685what's this mental illness called? Are people genuinely having a melty over the fact they MIGHT have more rights for once?
>>737555194Read OP's post again, but slowly this time
>>737548702If Mr. Stiemsheckle can’t kill games you bought, how the hell is he supposed to sell you the enshitified new games filled with microtransactions, spyware, and trans characters?!We should always respect people’s rights, but only for corporations and not actual people. When we have corporate rights conflict with human rights, we should always let powerful companies do what ever they want!
>>737548702You dont own the game you fucking retards, it's a license you pretentious entitled fucktards
>>737548702Most games are shit and deserve to die.
>>737549775>Lego isn't allowed to just destroy the old space set from their ownersYou think jews wouldnt do that if they could?
>>737556416this is actually a decent one
>>737548702It's antisemitic to allow customers to continue using what they have paid for despite the corporation wanting to deprive them of their product
>>737548702I want every woke tranny that out gay shit into video games to be unemployed, unemployable and destitute. So keep doing what you are doing.
>>737556416Counter argument: They should die because we demand it, not because the company wants it. Lost in obscurity to time and a lack of desire to be touched by the masses, not because we cannot touch them.
>>737548702In an alternate world keep killing games is to stop jack thompson from banning gta. The only reason ca faggots support stop killing games is they think its banning call of duty. We need more killing games and less walking simulators.
>>737557075There's literally no game ever that died because of that though, thats the problem of stop killing games, no game worth playing is an example of it
>>737548702The industry needs a dozen more Concords before it dies enough for people to be able to make good games again. SKG could slow the crash by causing a pivot from live service slop and put us in a different well of mediocrity for years. We need to speed headlong into the tree for the crash to work, no hitting the brakes.
I WANT TO PLAY THIS AGAIN
Most games are shit, most media should be forgotten, people should stop dwelling on the past
I paid money to see a movie, after its over they shouldn't be able to kick me out of theater!
>>737554812>It puts the company in a bad position to simply add dedicated servers to a game or have an offline state>It’s perfectly fine that consumers get a product that they paid for stolen by the company, or often than not so the company can sell you the new gameWhy is that corpo bootlickers pretend like actual people aren’t being screwed over by corpo rights? If we didn’t tell corporations to go fuck themselves, fire exits would have service fees or subscriptions, and countless numbers of people would die in a fire.
>>737558050>I bought a DVD of a movie, but they remotely made it stop playing on all devices
>>737557883Would you make the same argument for movies or books?
>>737558187You bought a license not the movie.Cope poorfag
>>737558281How about this>I bought a ferret (a license), and the ferret farmer is using a drone to confiscate my sex toySee the problem now?
>>737558553Insane behavior. Shove the ferret up my ass. All the way in.
>>737558281Where do you live?
Most of the games made nowadays are shit and the faster they die, the better.
Amerifats defend "corpo rights" because they have been so brainwashed by the idea of the "american dream" (never existed unless you were born in the right "tribe") that they all believe they are just a depressed billionaire having a bad streak, and they are just just one good day away from becoming the next billionaire, so they have to go against anything that could potentially make it hard for them to be the one fucking the poorfaggots over for a profit in the future
>>737558703Games are shit now because of this thing called enshitification.It’s where companies intentionally make their products/service ever so worse than the previous. You can see it with companies like Apple who intentionally gimp their phones. This is done so that Apple can both save money and then sell you the solution. No headphone jack? Just buy airpods or our brand wired headphones. Your phone is dead? Well here is the new model with an even shittier battery but we took the older models with decent lifespans so you can’t buy them.Game companies are no different. They intentionally create problems in their games to also save money and to sell you solutions.In this case, game companies want to make all their old games literally unplayable so they can sell you their new games.
>>737559240Im a depressed multimillionaire (inheritance)
>>737558189yes
>>737548702If all the live service garbage games become lost media the moment they shut down, eventually nobody will remember them and the game industry won't be able to bring them back.
>>737548702if it were to pass right now for every game that is made from today, then there wouldn't be any games worth saving anyway. SKG is over 20 years overdue.
>>737560613So when do we destroy all copies of Tolkien's work?
>>737560880I don't think they should be destroyed but I don't think people should make an effort to preserve everything just because
>>737561102>I don't think they should be destroyedWhy not?>but I don't think people should make an effort to preserve everything just becauseWhy?
>>737561185>Most games are shit, most media should be forgotten, people should stop dwelling on the past
>>737561257This. Who needs the past? Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
>>737561291It doesnt mean you should deliberately go out of your way to erase history
>>737561402No it just means you conveniently "forget" the unpleasant bits and sand over the remains to push a favorable narrative
>>737561257>Most games are shitAt what point does a reach the threshold of being good enough to preserve?>most media should be forgottenWho decides what is worth keeping?>people should stop dwelling on the pastHow is being entertained by old media dwelling on the past? Why would you think Tolkien's work is worth preserving if people shouldn't dwell on the past?
>>737561691There is no aribitration, people should just not artifically dwell on the pastLord of the Rings the book isn't actually particuarly relevant anymore, it just lives on in the movies
>>737561952>There is no aribitration, people should just not artifically dwell on the pastBut you do want some things preserved? What exactly is bad about preserving media going forward? How is it detrimental to anyone?>Lord of the Rings the book isn't actually particuarly relevant anymoreIt's the basis of modern fantasy in the west. Its influence is actively still there, and people who read the books can be inspired to create works of their own>it just lives on in the moviesNo reason to preserve those either, right?
>>737561952You're just posting stuff like this to kill time aren't you?
>>737548750You're supposed for killing games, not against it.
>/v/ is so angered something they declared "soi" is gaining steam hat they will argue against their own interests to shoot it downYour bootlicking ways will come back to haunt you. Siding with corporations is never the right move, even if you think you're "sticking it" to someone.
>>737548702Because while the movement started out noble, it has devolved into death threats against people (with or without influence) who just asked reasonable questions. It shouldn't be passed and there should be a cooling period before we try again.
>>737562334>How is it detrimental to anyone?Because people dwell on the past and they don't move fowardLOTR is the basis for modern fantasy yes but it's been transcended many times overDrawing inspiration from LOTR now would in some ways be a determiment
>>737562768>>Because people dwell on the past and they don't move fowardm8, most media doesn't lose its value just because it's old, and you haven't explained how its continued existence results in anything bad happening. When someone reads an old book for the first time, what detriment is that to them or society? If that same book had been written a week beforehand, then all of a sudden the exact same content is a-okay to engage with? It's the same fucking content regardless of how old it is. An empty platitude like "don't dwell on the past" isn't an argument>LOTR is the basis for modern fantasy yes but it's been transcended many times overPeople still read it for the first time every day. It's a new book to them, despite being old>Drawing inspiration from LOTR now would in some ways be a determimentWhy?
Omg are you watching Alien (1979)? That's old and yucky! You should stop and watch a 2026 movie instead!
>>737557435Evolve is an example. /v/ has many anons that still miss it
>>737563280>m8, most media doesn't lose its value just because it's oldIt doesMedia reflects the time it was createdLOTR was special mostly because of the worldbuilding, which was pretty unique at the time but worldbuilding is so ubiquitous now, people being inspired by LOTR are just going to be making the same crap everyone else is making
>>737562719This is so true! PirateSoftware was a victim of this and was asking honest questions. Being a former employee from blizzard has its perks
>>737563678>LOTR was special mostly because of the worldbuilding, which was pretty unique at the time but worldbuilding is so ubiquitous now,Except LotR still has exceptional world building that few other works match. What other fantasy series has a fully fledged, original language? And no, that's not the only thing Tolkien had. >people being inspired by LOTR are just going to be making the same crap everyone else is makingThey'd be making crap regardless. You can have good world building, which Tolkien showed you how to. How will that lesson lose relevance?
>>737563678there is such a thing as timeless media
>>737565145>Except LotR still has exceptional world building that few other works match.It actually doesn't, LotR's worldbuilding is pretty sparse compared to even mediocre modern fantasy. If you want to do good worldbuilding in the modern era you shouldn't look to Tolkien, although he does some things right that modern fantasy authors tend to suck at>>737565187nah
>>737548750Genuinely, why do we not let the market decide? When do we consumers ever promote anything less than "may the best product win"?
>>737565341>LotR's worldbuilding is pretty sparse compared to even mediocre modern fantasyQuantity doesn't equate to good world building. How is Tolkien bad at world building otherwise?>If you want to do good worldbuilding in the modern era you shouldn't look to TolkienWho should I look to?
>>737566037>Quantity doesn't equate to good world building.It kind of does, worldbuilding is about the details, and Tolkien's world is pretty sparse. He's not bad at it there's just not much materialYou should look to things that aren't popular and haven't been explored as much
>>737548702Fuck off with your false binary, dink
>>737566143>It kind of does, worldbuilding is about the details, and Tolkien's world is pretty sparseAre you kidding? Tolkien's world is filled with details. Everything can be traced back. Languages and lineages, creatures and civilizations, landmasses and general topography, magic and relics, etc. Everything makes sense in Tolkien's world, and no other fantasy setting has managed to compete in how "realistic" Tolkien made Arda>You should look to things that aren't popular and haven't been explored as muchSuch as?
>>737566443Tolkien's world only focuses on a few thingsLike for the LOTR MMO and other games that feature all of Middle Earth, nearly everything is made up because he barely goes into any detail. No details on pretty much anything outside the area where LOTR is set, or other civilizations, it's all just elf history
>>737566927retard.
>>737548702>why we should Keep Killing GamesYou can only get the max score if you kill ALL enemies in the level.
>>737565668Because “voting with your wallet” is heavily stacked in favor shitty business practices.If you were playing Baseball and throwing sand into people’s eyes was allowed, do you think the players are going to heckin respect each other, or start throwing sand in their eyes? It’s going to be the latter because any players who aren’t throwing sand in their opponent’s eyes is giving teams who don’t do that a major advantage.That’s why throwing sand into your opponent’s eyes is banned in sport, or why things like PTO is legally required and OSHA exists.
>>737566996seething
>>737548702Because every time I make bad faith arguments and conflate everything with communism, I get easy (you)s, which is the only social interaction I get on a daily basis.
>>737566927That doesn't make it bad world building. Details do not equate to good world building. Tolkien makes the world come alive with how interconnected and believable it is. He made his own goddam language for fuck sake, which is exceptional world building
>>737565668Because people are impulsive and careless, and the market has shown that it has no restraint and will destroy its own industry in the attempt to squeeze out every last remaining cent in any pocket
>>737567242I never said it was bad, what is there is good, if you like elvesIt doesn't really feel like a "world" though, worlds are big, worlds have variety, worlds have detail. How much do we know about the people to the east or south of middle earth? like two sentences
>>737567462How much of Tolkien's work have you read?
>>737567946I've read LOTR, tried to read the Simarillion but it was boring as shit
>>737568017Then I have to ask what other series does world building better
>>737568212If I answer that you'd just take it as me saying another author is better than Tolkien which is not what I'm trying to sayI could say Discworld has a more fleshed out world than Middle Earth but that's because there's like 50 Discworld booksAll I'm trying to say is we shouldn't revere the past just because, people put Tolkien on a pedestal when they should not, but that doesn't mean he's a bad author
>>737568564Is this a fucking troll post?
>>737568614no
>>737568614Yes
Damn cuz you don't consume the latest shitslop worse than the original? You don't let corporation fuck you over? That's pretty cringe ngl fr
>>737568564>If I answer that you'd just take it as me saying another author is better than Tolkien which is not what I'm trying to sayI will keep that in mind, so throw an example out thereYou definitely should put Tolkien on a pedestal when it comes to certain thing. What other fantasy series has matched him in the making of imaginary languages? What other fantasy setting makes use of poems and songs as Tolkien does? And those languages and songs fit in perfectly with the history of Tolkien's world. It's shit like that which isn't matched by anyone that I know of. Tolkien was an absolute unit of a scholar
>>737569678I guess if you like the songs and poems then Tolkien is great, I did notI like cultures, people, places, and Tolkien paints in broad strokesYou couldn't ask "what is day to day life like for a character in this area of Middle Earth" unless the character was a hobbit
>>737567415>>737567130I see your points, but I am talking about the consumer's perspective. The companies will lie about everything, but the one thing that cannot lie is the revenue. Addressing the argument of >>737548750, does a new title deserve to thrive if it loses to the old product available? Maybe I don't need a fancy multitool + that's thrice the price of a pocketknife if I can get a pocketknife.
Live service slop deserves to die.
>>737548702it depends what games we're talking aboutif they're gay they should be killedif they're not they're ok
>>737556451But they ARE doing that anon?New lego bricks are made from plant-based plastics.Official company line is those are not biodegradable, but estimates are that their actual shelf time before they start literally crumbling from old age esp. when exposed to sunlight -- i.e. when put on display -- is a good deal shorter than the classic bricks from material used in earlier eras. Old lego bricks might even outlive the new ones.
