If you want accurate translations simply learn any language that's not English
I've only seen your format twice today and I'm tired of it. Shouldn't you sharteens be in school
>>737559727YAMERO
>>737559727ESL bros. We can't winning stop
>>737559727No (en español)
>>737559727Time to kick-start fascism and send these fuckers to the woodchippers and gaschambers.
>>737559727What game
>>737559727What's the easiest language to learn as an EOS(english only speaker)?
>>737560945yunyun syndrome
>>737561008Korean + Spanish are your go tos. You can learn the gook language easily within a month for reading start (unlike 5 years in Japanese haha...) Spanish is simple you just need to learn the dictionary as a lot of words sound as they should work within English/Latin origin understanding.
>>737559727This looks like a parody
>>737561008Probably German because it's related to English. Japanese would be easy too if the runes weren't so different.
Speaking one language is a sign of below average IQ
>>737559851this and kek for the intended error
>>737559727The worst part is that the devs won't care about the shitty trannylation. Look at the positive/negative ratio for english reviews.They'll see it as a huge success and probably hire the trannylators for their next project. I fucking hate this clown world.
>subhuman mutts are subhumanmore news at 7
>>737559727Man I haven't played a game in Spanish in so long, I wonder how bad those translations are
>>737559727Huh? Didn't latinxos complain about some meme translation in a recent pokemon game?
>>737561008I'd say whichever language you're passionate for the most. All languages are "easy" until you hit a difficulty wall: For spanish it's verbs, for japanese it's kanji, etc.
>>737561008As a frog I'm tempted to say french because 90% of the vocabulary is the same, but french grammar is very byzantine and french just isn't a very useful language, unless you for some reason decide to go to Africa.
>>737561529beat your shithole retarded countrymen to the mooncheckmate
>>737559727Game?
>>737559727Video game localizers are low-tier human beings. If you had any skill in this field, you wouldn’t translate games or anime—you’d be paid in gold translating pharmaceuticals, machinery, or legal documents. That’s why only nutjobs take these jobs: they’re low-paying, and only the worst in the field apply for them. They have neither a sense of commitment, discipline, nor professionalism.
>>737561178>KoreanYou're insane, the grammar is a complete clusterfuck especially for an EOP>b-b-but some youtuber told me you can learn hangul in a dayDoesn't matter
>>737561720>For spanish it's verbs, for japanese it's kanji, etc.yeah... sure... kanji...
>>737561008Spanish is easy because words are sounded out the same way you write them unlike in English
>>737561008Spanish could be a great option as you can immerse in it more easily. I have known people who have learnt spanish just by watching soap opera.
>>737561648>spanish In this game, every language seems to be following the same general direction. Except English
>>737559727>portuguese_br = Para com issowe would actually say "vai se foder!" or "teu cu!" which means literally the same as "Fuck you!"
>>737561843I might be stupid but it honestly doesn't seem that bad...
>spanish>easy>words end in a different letter/syllable depending on gender/number/verb tense/how some random guy felt that day
>>737559794Soiteens hate Japanese stuff, they would be cheering about this happening
>>737561271Japanese has a different word order though and that makes it way harder than languages more closely related to English
>>737562158that's most languages that aren't english
>>737561843For one, you don't include 私は or equivalent in typical speech because you rely on context. Then if you just consider Japanese as "caveman English" it becomes much easier to reason about.>[hotel-across-street-shop suit] [i saw] [want wear]
>>737561827Funny the that only English is fucked
>>737561843>reversing sentence order>ever
>>737562301*then
>>737559727DO NOT BUY THIS GAME, NOT BECAUSE OF THE TRANSLATION BUT BECAUSE YOU WILL GIVE MONEY TO WSS PLAYGROUND AND THEY'RE EVIL>the main people behind needy girl overdose are nyalra and his small team, wss just publishes it>the ceo of wss, daichi saito, is the producer of ngo>the game is successful and sells millions of copies>since its their most successful published game by far, saito sees this as an opportunity to make easy money and starts mistreating nyalra and the others>nyalra claims saito abused the ngo team and hasn't compensated them>saito basically takes over the ngo ip and starts whoring it out for collabs and merch without the consent of any of the devs, who see none of the money from that stuff>saito starts avoiding japanese media outlets so he wont say anything he can be held accountable for since overseas fans wont know or care>nyalra and saito are now engaged in legal shit because saito wont stop being an assholeThis is all from nyalra's twitter. And by supporting this game which wss helped develop, anything else they worked on or published, or anything new done with the ngo ip, you are giving money to saito. Do not buy yunyun syndrome, support nyalra and his new company haze denki instead. If you want to play yunyun then stick to piracy!
>>737562246The reason Japanese is easy is because it has grammatical rules that make sense and are easy to remember. Not similarity. The awful part is the runes, those are very hard to remember.
>>737561829>is mad after receiving recommendations.You are hopeless. The grammar is simpler and more structured than Japanese and doesn't allow as much fuckery. Consider hangul being simpler and there being a lot more reasons to learn Korean as there's actively more content being put out in Korean as well so you can immerse yourself in that a lot easier as well by playing a game you already have played through to learn Korean for example. (Hence easier.) With Spanish it depends.
>>737561720>All languages are "easy" until you hit a difficulty wallI'll say the opposite.All languages are "hard" until you surmount the initial walls. For Japanese this is literally all the parts of it since you're forced to learn how to read a ton of Kanji and learn how to parse it all properly, as well as dealing with vocabulary that, aside from 和製英語 and the multitude of other loan words, will be wholly new with no reference to anything you'd be familiar with. You are starting from zero, which inflates the time before you can start making real gains through immersion ("just watching" or "just reading" as some like to describe the lazy, thoughtless immersion process.)Now consider Spanish, a language that an American already has a lot of freebies in since it's impossible to avoid Spanish in daily life, as well as words that are latin- and greek-derived and you basically get "for free" even if sometimes it can feel a bit backwards. Take "polémico" for instance, describing something that provokes controversy. "Polemic" is a word most English speakers will know, but it isn't high on their list when they go to say "something that provokes controversy." Situations like this happen all the time where the "less common" or "literary" variant of something in English is the more commonly-used in Spanish since Spanish more often defaults to the latinate.You can start reading Spanish as early as day 1 as well, since you can just skim a grammar guide to get a vague idea of the shapes of verb forms and get into the details later on. It's more important to immerse than it is to understand all the details immediately, since those will come with time and exposure.
>>737562158If its active, forceful or dominant that's masculine. If its passive, supportive or submissive, that's feminine. Basically if something's stepped on? That's a feminine thing, if its active in stepping on? Masculine. kek. Think of it like machismo! What do foreigners think is super-masculine? Base it on that its almost always right.
>>737561829>the grammar is a complete clusterfuck We already speak English bro.
>>737562285that's cute, you moved the "saw" to be after "suit", inserted the pronoun "i" in the middle, and moved "wear" after "want" and you still couldn't come up with something that sounds understandable
>>737562232Soiteens are Jews, Turks, Niggers, pedophiles and underage thoughbeit.
>>737559727>[japanese_ja] 令呪で縛らないから>[english_en] i will NEVER be victimized under fascism againwtf
>>737562996Commiefornian trash shit.
>>737562996[japanese_ja] いらない[english_en] i'd cut my uterus out if i cld[korean_sa] 필요 없음[spanish_la] No lo quiero.[french_fr] J'en veux pas[german_de] Brauch ich nicht.[italian_it] Non lo voglio.[portuguese_ptbr] Não quero[russian_ru] He нaдo.
https://x.com/BlackHitTheSpot/status/2047717487253581934...
>>737562651And they hate Japan and all things from Japane, especially anime things
>>737562385>nyalra>Sister Other Paranoia.>Siscon feelgood-trash.Nah, skipping that one until they make a game worth playing.
Forever grateful to my mother for teaching me english at an early age. I got to enjoy 2 worlds growing up, and now understanding spanish allows me to sidestep the horrendously bad english localizations.
>>737562285You just ignored all of the grammar. It's "hotel's opposite side on is shop in saw suit wearing want am"
>>737562648Sure, I considered moving "i saw" into the suit's compound adjective but was too lazy to redo. Of course "I" was inserted and "want" was flipped because that is the translation. They are within a reasonable distance from their context and shouldn't be the main issue in grammar here. It would be similar to complaining about verb conjugation in Spanish. Ultimately, this wasn't meant to be a 1:1 recreation in English grammar ordering but a best effort to help one somewhat understand Japanese grammar.Lastly, it is only hard to understand if spoken aloud but if you are aware of compound adjectives, it really isn't that bad in text. ESLs speak pretty close to this and a native speaker should be able to decipher the meaning.
>>737559727so is this actually real or did you just make it up for a low effort bait thread?
>>737563925It is unfortunately real, the english "translation" of yunyun is working designs tier dogshit
>>737563925100% real.
>>737563772Japanese and English have a flipped word order. SOV (Japanese) vs VSO (English)
>>737564019English is SVO, retard. Also, it's not nearly so simple because particles actually have a correct order
>>737563983>>737563989thats really unfortunate, the game is great so I hope the devs fire the english localizers and fix it. I'm a commie anyway but bad translations are still bad even if it fits your politics.
>>737563760How the hell did I ignore *all* of the grammar? I have the most important parts in the image that a stereotypical caveman would *think* is relevant. Anything else is too much for a caveman. You do realize speaking like a caveman who would not include every bit of proper English grammar was the intent, right?
>>737559727how does "stop it" become "end fascism"
>>737564110>I hope the devs fire the english localizers and fix it.they won't >>737561438
>>737561008Italian or Spanish.
>>737564343>ItalianThis. Just learn how to wave your hands around properly and you are B2
>>737564229fascism yamero
>>737563925I went to steam and found this review.>The line "Yamero" (literal translation: "stop" or "stop it") has been replaced with "END FASCISM!",>The line "Ryō noroi de shibaranaikara" (literal translation: "I won't bind you with a Command Spell") has been replaced with "i will NEVER be victimized under fascism again", and the line "Iranai" (literal translation: "I don't need it") has been replaced with "i'd cut my uterus out if i cld".
>>737561008French, english is a french creole anyways
>>737564162Well, you essentially turned the sentence into a Mad Libs by cutting out の, にある, and で from your caveman translation. The Japanese "caveman" would still interpret those parts, whereas you're making it look like we skip over those parts to figure out the meaning.
>>737564654the command spell one pisses me off because it took a fairly understandable weeb reference and replaced it with nonsense that removes context. the others are just bad attempts at adding character to the dialogue but that one is actually removing character. fucking stupid AI localizers.
>>737564229literal trannylators
>>737561008Real answer here, from easiest to hardest:Scots > Dutch/Afrikaans > Nordic languages >= Romance languages
>>737559727>try out Russian translation of a Japanese game>it's translated from the English translation and not directly from JapaneseThere are exceptions but they don't seem to be the norm. You just can't escape.
>>737564484In your dreams.
>>737561008the only actual solution to your problem is learning japanese.Every other language will have different kinds of translation and localization quirks that deviate from the reference.
>>737561008The easiest one is the language you're actually interested in.Most euro languages shouldn't be that difficult, but if you don't give a fuck about spanish or german, then it's going to be 20 times harder than learning japanese, if you were a huge weeb.But if you want to impress chicks, just pick spanish, italian or french, maybe japanese or korean if you like nerdy weeb girls.
>>737565001>scotshttps://www.theregister.com/2020/08/26/scots_wikipedia_fake/
>>737559794retard
>>737561008Italian
>>737564484You forgot to learn the 500 different shades of blasphemy to go with it
>>737564754They didn't use AI for that lawl
>>737563925No bait, the English TL team is legit retarded or malicious, maybe both
Just email the devs personal accounts with the translations and tell them how bad it makes the game look, this isn't some AAA game, they will likely listen
>They removed the kaomojis[japanese_ja] やあ (´・ω・｀)[english_en] Yaaaa-ho~ :3[korean_sa] 여어(´・ω・｀)[spanish_la] Hola (´・ω・｀)[french_fr] Salut (´・ω・｀)[german_de] Hi (´・ω・｀)[italian_it] Ehilà (´・ω・｀)[portuguese_ptbr] E aí (´・ω・｀)[russian_ru] Пpивeт (´・ω・｀)
>>737561008Spanish, which would lead to easier access to Italian and Portuguese. French is also an answer I get a lot of raised eyebrows from, but remember that English has adopted a ton of French words (pronunciation will still be a bitch though)
>>737562064The text is "stop it" if the other translations are correct
>>737566398The funny thing is there was already an uproar over the demo's skibidiy rizz translations and the devs took those lines out but then it turns out the full game is completely butchered. I think they got scammed.
>>737565349Nope german doesn't
>>737561686Yeah, Sword and Shield, and to a lesser extent Z-A, but to be fair the spanish translation of SwSh was european spanish I'm pretty sure, not Latam Spanish, dunno if Z-A got a latam spanish translation because I don't care enough since I play the games in english anyway.
When I was a little shitter I played Half-Life 2 for the first time in russian. It was aoverall okay, with some odd quirks here and there. Shortly after I learned that Valve did the translation inhouse, which is why it felt off at times. I was really mad at it back then, wondering why they didn't just contract some localizers.These days I totally get it. Fuck localizers, never give control to anyone.
>>737559727I'm already learning Japanese, theres a lot of retro games that weren't translated too. Nerds learn star wars languages so there's no excuse for me not to learn video game language.
>>737566585i would imagine german is the best at accuracy, but would struggle with specific context/nuance equivalence, given how dramatically different the languages and cultures are.I think it'd probably be the best non-japanese option though.
>>737566462denko... no.... my spaghetti... (´・ω・`)
>>737561008Italian, the language was made to unify 20 different tiny nations with totally different languages (they call them dialects, but most are nothing like italian)
>>737561008French.Like, half of your words are French words mangled after you got invaded by the Normans.
>>737559727i'm learning korean but it takes a long ass time.
>>737559727If English is your first language the only reason to learn another is for fun, or for career advancement.
>>737567276Korean has honorifics like Japanese right?
>>737562246japanese grammar is ridiculously easy to learn
>>737561827They're not even translators to begin with and it infuriates me that people like you think that they are. They are editors. They are people with fucking writing degrees. They are NOT translators who couldn't get hired writing for professional industries. The job they wanted was to be a writer or a journalist, but since nobody wants to read what they write on their own merits they found a job (likely through nepotism) as an editor where they can vandalise other people's writing (and translations!!!) because that's the only way they can get people to read their worthless drivel.
>>737559727You MUST learn >46 hiragana and their alternative pronunciations and combinations>46 Katakana and their alternative pronunciations and combinations>1000+ Kanji and their meaning, Pronunciation and meaning.>Japanese grammar and sentence structure No game or piece of media is worth this level of stress and work. Nothing.
>>737567385honorifics, particles, conjugations, and different words for hierarchy differences.
What's stopping chuddies from becoming localizers and adding based translations?Replace ikizou! With Remember the 14 words! And so onJaps won't care
>>737567589retarded frogposter
>>737567314just don't be that guy that lives in another country who doesn't learn the language.
>>737559727I hate you faggots NOT including any fucking context or links. Here is a compilation of Yunyun Syndrome's English trannylation.https://steamcommunity.com/app/2914150/discussions/0/600791791481134754/?ctp=17#c805723331253837996
>>737561008Anyone who says Spanish either speaks Spanish like the indians in western movies or they are native Spanish speakers and don't understand how difficult the language is.Spanish has a FUCKTON of verb conjugations (there are more than 30 tenses, each one is different for first, second, third person singular and first, second, third person plural) and you need to know all of them to precisely pinpoint the time the action happens or you sound VERY weird, every word has a gender and you must learn them all by memory, as there isn't any rule.English is the easiest language bar the pronunciation, which is whatever you fucks felt like that day. That's the reason it became the lingua franca.As an EOS, just pick whatever you like, you're going to have a bad time anyway. If you want to learn something useful, learn Chinese or Spanish. If you want to play vidya, learn Japanese
>>737567589kana are completely trivial to learn
>>737567589Think of it like exercise for your brain. Some people do puzzles to keep their brain active, this is like that except it's actually a useful skill as well. You don't have to master the language in a year, just go at your own pace. If it takes you 20 years, so what?>>737567723Too much honesty/integrity. Leftists have no problem lying and using trickery as long as it's for a "righteous cause." They probably tell Japanese devs their game will get cancelled/banned from storefronts/reviewbombed etc. if they don't make these changes. They're even getting them to make changes at the source in the original Japanese these days.
Imagine only speaking one language like some medieval peasant, disgusting.
>>737567729No argument. Clearly an upset language learner mad he wasted hundreds of hours to read books for kids in a language not meant for him. Hope it was worth it
>>737559727>tfw your language is so irrelevant that you never get translations so you have to know a foreign language to play games no matter what
I know that english is mechanically complex, but it must be so fucking easy to learn with the absolute deluge of english media and learning materials
At least this is good evidence that English localizers' claims that "it's impossible to accurately translate Japanese" is 100% bullshit. Now we have a game where every language was successfully accurately translated EXCEPT English. The problem has ALWAYS been English localizers specifically.
>>737568223Fins seem like they'd be good at learning other languages anyway.
>>737568223you should have a genetic memory of japanese through the post-antediluvian altaic blood covenant, pekka
>>737568223It's fine, my native language looks weird in writing anyway. English is much more aesthetically pleasing
>>737568439>it's impossible to accurately translate Japanesewhat is even meant by that anyways? That you can't accurately translate japanese titles, or that japanese jokes and customs just don't make sense to western audiences?
>>737568712the latter.But it's just an excuse to justify / rationalize meme translations
>>737568059>>737568124I actually did learn hiragana and enjoyed it. But then learning another 46 katakana,1000+ kanji ,punctuation and vocabulary over the course of one to two years only to probably struggle to read Japanese juvenile literature isn’t really a good deal overall. We have limited time on this earth and language learning is increasingly becoming redundant.
>>737561843Why did these lunatics have to be the only people who can make worthwhile entertainment content?
>>737568223That's because your country isn't real.
>>737568804at some point artists just need to trust that the person reading the book or consuming the media is willing to be outside of their comfort zone, otherwise they wouldn't be reading a japanese book.... I agree with you though, it's just an excuse to add their "spin" on a superior and famous product because they are too shitty to make their own product
>>737569270I visited estonia last year, it was pretty depressing
We've been telling you to learn japanese since 2003, anon. This is all on you.Even if the localization was great you'll NEVER experience the real script by reading a translation, but just the localizator's fanfic.
>>737567276Faggot
>>737569365I've never been in Estonia but it sounds comfy.My countrymen are trying their best, keeping suicide rates high seems to be the goal.Ebins, are welcome.
>>737569270funnily enough scandinavia has been geologically connected for 3 billion years as the baltica paleocontinent
>>737569951Ye this is where I was in Talinn. I met up with some friends there, but overall there wasn't a whole lot of to (not really Estonia's fault, I'm sure it's a really nice place to live). Everyone was really nice though. I wish I could have taken the ferry across to Finland but I just didn't have a spare few days
>>737569951Fucking happening everywhere in Eastern Europe it seems. Fucking hate it
>>737559727This has always been true about everything Japan. Here in Latin America we always got the true Japanese version dubbed in Spanish of old animes while Burguerland got some shit Americanized version they swear is good.
Yurop language translations are credited to a company called Mantra, Inc. by the way
>>737562385Imagine seeing this and, not only relating to it, but seeing it as aspirational.
>>737561008according to the foreign service institute
>>737561008Assuming you are American, Spanish is the easiest to learn because it's integrated into society. You can turn almost anything over and get an exact copy of text in Spanish, and you're surrounded by Spanish speakers whether you realize it or not. Most American high schools only offer one foreign language, and it's Spanish, which means everyone is pretty familiar with it. Outside of some oddities, it's similar enough to English in structure.
>>737569715Really though, what did Psycho Mantis mean by that in Japanese? Very enigmatic line.
>>737569715Amazing how ESL actual "professional" translators are.
>>737569270Lol penisland
>>737569715They took out the word nostalgic because leftists can't understand feelings
>>737569715>>737571758Maybe he's "nostalgic" in the sense of wanting to return to the past so he can do things over now that he realizes helping people feels good man. Thoughts?
>>737559727But which translation is most important for the times we're living in?
>>737571037I mean, most people here also completely misunderstood the message from NGO, so it's no surprise.
What is even the context?In the languages I know it just says "Stop!", like someone is poking you with a stick to annoy you and you say "Stop". How does END FASCISM fit into this?
>>737559727Why can't trannyslators.... just translate?
>>737564754AI localisation is always based on the content fed into the AI, that is literally how it works.Actual localisers are not confined to using the materials they are presented with and actively rejoice in not doing so in order to fit in current day politics, memes and any in-jokes that come to mind.
>>737559727Why would you be mad at this unless you're a fascist?
>>737572736English speakers can't handle regular words, because idioms and expressions have become too ingrained. You see it in fansubs too, where they constantly have to translate the context with cringe expressions.
>>737573158>much of leftoid discourse is pretending to misunderstand the point, thus making communication impossible
>>737572521I have to say it's actually sad how many people misunderstood it. The anime sequel just went and dumped the whole thesis of the game in the first episode to scare off all the posers, and they STILL continue to shit up the /a/ threads.
>>737567589Just watch anime and play hentai games, it will come to you naturally.
>>737573242and yet if it were translated by a rightoid you would saying 'BASED' like a retard
>>737561008Cervantes kino, duh!
>>737568494Isn't Finnish one of the hardest languages to learn?
>>737561008You will always be a peasant.
>>737573451A dogshit translation is a dogshit translation.
>>737572521I've seen that for men it's just this fetish thing for mentally ill shutins.But a lot of women and transsexuals really really love the menhera chronically online aesthetic and I have no idea what about it is aspirational.
>>737573618>Knowing the most popular language on the planet somehow makes you a peasantYou come from Eastern Europe or something?
>>737561438well ,there is hope, went down from a 94 to a 92%.Here's hoping that we got all the meme reviews out of the way now and people give actual criticism on this dumpster fire of a translation.
>>737573158>JAP: konnichiwa, kanae-san>ENG: kill all communists!Why would you be mad at this unless you're a communist?
>>737561008German will help as a sequental logical language, it's a big reason why they are so good at fine engineering paired with their higher IQ.Like the Chinese are good with numbers but mostly because they calculate with a language that has no sense of time, they treat fictional money in the futre as if they already have it.Yet English enables alternative outside the box thinking with multiple ways to portray something so you're blessed with coming up with something that could save your life instead of being a slant eyed chink that goes forward at 100 mph because they never ran into a problem in their life that required them to change course and their way of driving before just fucking dying as they stare a thousand yards ahead.
>>737571448>romance languages such as french, italian, spanish and portuguese ranked the easiest as category I>german, one of the closest european relatives of english ranked as category IICan a native english speaker explain this to me?
>>737573703They want validation for their own selfdestructive lifestyle and lack of self control.
>>737561271English is more French than German
>>737574168Not English.Why German is more difficult?Cases. Exceptions to the rules. Mostly the cases. English speakers are not used to that.
english is basically the best language in the world and thats why its the lingua franca of earth, despite there being more chinese than there are native english speakersthere are two reasons for thisA. english doesnt fuck around with conjugating verbs. almost every other language fell into this trap of over-complicating bullshit by changing verbs depending on context; english does not do this. a word is a fucking word and if the context changes, its communicated clearly through individual words and a strict logical word orderB. english doesnt have a wacky bizarro land sentence and word structure, because it conforms and matches to the human experience of time. past to future. subject to verb. none of that bullshit about saying what youre doing before you identify whats being done to it; in english, you would say something like 'i saw john today', not some ridiculous bullshit like 'saw i john today' like in some other languages anyone who disagrees is a salty ESL or a malding weeb
>>737574168German glues every single word together or something
>>737574168English is an efficient but lazy language. We've gradually gotten rid of anything too complicated in inflected speech, for the sake of simplicity and time.So romance languages are easier for us to intuit because Latin itself is pretty simple (Even simpler than English in many ways).While German is pretty antithetical to the idea of simplicity, efficiency and laziness, despite being closer to us.Umlauts are a specific case that mess us up because (Americans atleast) are lazy with pronunciation and don't have the ears or care for slight phonetic differences that are vital in German.
>>737575530English doesn't read as it writes because it's a botched islander languageEx. "Beach" and "Bitch" sound the same despite being written differently
>>737574168grammatical gender and verb conjugation are the two big hurdles for a native English speaker learning French, Spanish etc.Add a third gender, case, a bit of dodgy word order (moving verbs to end of clauses etc), different vocab since English is heavily French/Latin influenced and you get why German is more difficult.Despite its own idiosyncracies, a Germanic language like Swedish is (at least for me) a much easier one to cope with.
>>737576415ESL detectedyou are absolutely incorrect, beach and bitch sound different and are spelled differentlywhat youre thinking about is words like 'though' which are STILL superior to other languages because even though (huhuhu) context can change when they're used, THE FUCKING WORD DOESNT CHANGE SO YOU DONT HAVE TO MEMORIZE 20 DIFFERENT VARIATIONS FOR USE CASES.nigger.
>>737576415Bean-bro...
>>737576287>umlauts>slight phonetic differencekek>Latin itself is pretty simple (Even simpler than English in many ways).No fucking way. I'm Italian and English is a billion times easier than Latin. Are you insane?English is a simple and synthetic language, it communicates things fast in a generic way but it has zero nuance. In Italian you would need to use a sentence express concepts you can express with a single word in English but this also allows you to fine tune what you want to express, whereas English doesn't allow for that.So, yeah, if you're impatient like me, English is a great language.
>>737577142Americans can't even spell nuclear or semitic, you think they can hear the difference between bitch and beach? Get off your high horse.
>>737577142There, their, they're anon, it's not that big a deal
>>737568124>Too much honesty/integrity.Is this the latest cope for MIGGERS being the most gullible people imaginable?
>>737577371anon, short i vs long e is a major difference, you're being retarded.
>>737567925wat
>>737577232>No fucking way.The fact that 'C' is always hard in (classical) Latin, is already a massive improvement, because soft vs hard c is an annoyance for english speakers.
>>737577418Anyone who falls for the psyop that they can literally change what sex they are and that their life will improve from this is a thousand times more gullible IMO.
>>737577232English is the ultimate npc language, it excels at precise transfer of information with rigid if simplistic structure.
>>737561271>Probably Germanlol no, trust me
>>737574168This >>737574564 is probably the most accurate.There's a lot of things you just have to know and can't deduce. If you grow up with it and learn it naturally, it's not a big deal but if you try to study the language as a foreigner it's a chore.
>>737571758He's looking back to the times when he didn't have to kill people and shit
>>737559727what's weird is this only happens to the absolute gayest faggot shit games ever made, so I would have expected all the dickless retards to either love this or not even be able to tell the difference
>>737559851hehe nice
>>737577618What does that have to do with anything that was said? I imagine you're talking about Italian. In that case c is very easy, just remember that without the h it's different from English. Not hard.>>737577828Not precise at all. Concise. It's different.
>>737577934>I imagine you're talking about ItalianEnglish vs Latin you silly WOP
>>737561843why does japanese grammar remind me of perl syntax
>>737577934English is not that concise, you can't beat hieroglyphic languages in that, chinese and japanese can fit more information in three characters than you can do in a whole english sentence.
>>737559727>any language>anyMy language isn't in there.
>>737559727I did learn another language and now I don't want trannylators to die.I wanna do it with my own fists to their faces personally. What kind of godless sodomite disgraces such an art?
>>737577876This game is about early 2000s Japanese internet memes. Of course the weeaboos that like that will be able to see how fucked up the translations are especially when it's erasing all the memes its supposed to be about
>>737561271>Probably Germanepic 10/10 troll
>>737577876This game has a lot of references to things that were popular here in 4chan back in the 00s. Not that a Soijak Party user would know
>>737576415>"Beach" and "Bitch" sound the samekek no the FUCK they do not, you ESL fucktard
>>737578082You have trouble with your own fucking language? kek
>>737567589Hiragana and katakana are easy.Even Duolingo is sufficient for that as of a few years ago
>>737578224Sure but then you're even more imprecise and generic.
>>737561302Only for ESL’s. What would a native English speaker even use a second language for? Communicating with lower life forms? Pathetic.
>>737579230Comical game of pretend.
>>737579357>all the best literature and forms of media are not in English>What would a native English speaker even use a second language for?
>>737579234Ah yes, the shitalian ego.Me: Latin itself is pretty simple (Even simpler than English in many ways). You (Disagreeing with my latter statement): No fucking way.Me (Giving an example): The fact that 'C' is always hard in (classical) Latin, is already a massive improvementYou: WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT ITALIAN???Go take a break Leo.
>>737579248Be that as it may, you still have kanji which is anything but easy
>>737567276this being looks like a man ew
>>737579403If you have an accent, maybe, but then it becomes a completely different problem.
>>737579475>all the best literature [...] not in EnglishLike what? Homer, Virgil, Dante, Goethe and... that's about it really. And Shakespeare is their equal.
>>737579357Case in point.
>>737579650>And Shakespeare is their equal.lol, lmao
>>737579475all the allegedly best literature that you've read exactly none of and you strictly defer to their countries' of origin insisting that they are the best
>>737579650Nietzsche, Kant, Heidegger, Jung, Camus, Sartre
>>737579882>Nietzsche, Kant, Heidegger, Jung>literature>Camus, Sartre>good
>>737579929>the only literature is fiction >getting filtered wew lad
>>737579650>>737579882I like how you pseud faggots are just naming the authors and not the actual, titled literature that you're trying to nebulously and blindly dickride
>>737573514I learned to speak by age 2
itt:trannylator shitpost, excuse for europoors to seethe at the one language that will survive the endtimes
>>737580067i'm not typing out a bibliography for 6 different authors you retard
>>737568223Hey, at least your guys make some cool games. You got Noita, Void Stranger, Baba is You...
>in the middle of grinding 6000 vocabulary words on ankiwe're all going to make it bros
Said it before and Ill say it again, people are so used to bottom of the barrel YOU WIN THE INTERWEBZ tier localizations that they think its the norm, normgroid cattle is especially used to it and embraces it.You will never get a decent localization ever.
>>737581603It always made me wonder if FF and DQ was always quirky and retarded (or even something like Xenogears), or if that was just the translation turning the dialogue into baby speak
>>737562598stop making shit up, you overwhelmingly stupid tryhard
>>737581281Yeah, but funnily enough we can't even play most of our own games in our native language.
My 2 cents:Trannies from the rest of the world quickly learn English so they can find "communities" that encourage them. This is why most tranny culture is created in English and eventually the anglicisms trickle down to the rest of the world and often looks out of place when plastered in different cultures.This makes English the language most needing of pozzing, as well as the language most global trannies consume their media in, leaving all other languages free from the pozz.
>>737581697as someone who recently played a bit of the DQ HD remakes to test my JP the "ye olde' english" in the translated texts was pissing me off seeing it side by side with the japanese.So i assume a lot of games back then were like that where translators just thought it would be too dry.
I hate trannylators so much. If it's not stale memes, it's incomprehensible gibberish.
>>737581964Omakuni, Suomi edition...
>>737559727browsing the steam forums for this game is kind of hilarious.the entire first page of discussion threads is just people angry about the english localization, some people going a bit too far.the odd thing is I was looking at the localizer's portfolio and they have a lot of pretty good games with good localizations. how do you go from Signalis and No, I'm Not A Human to writing this garbage?https://www.dragonbaby.com/#portfolio
>>737561008Unironically go learn Japanese and read Stranger in a Strange Land. Once you've done that you'll have insane perspective on these sorts of things and will be able to trivially learn shit like French and German.
>>737582059>black souls 2that translation is pretty much indistinguishable from the rest of the game's dialogue. I'm not sure if that's the official translation by that one anon or the edited MTL translation by that guy on f95 though so I won't claim it's correct.
>>737581964...how the fuck does baba even work in japanese
>>737582073It's more likely than you think.Noita has a finnish option but instead of a proper translation it's actually machine translated from english. As a joke.
>>737582191That's the fan translation which I'm pretty sure the official translation is based on with just some edits. Not related to the f95 one.
>>737582139nigger 99.99% of READERS can't parse that book lmfao why do we need japanese for that? really fun book but seriously wtf was even happening
>>737582079The basic idea is correct; the original Japanese is full of 2000's Japanese memes, so the English version should reflect that. The problem is that the translation is incompetent. They use modern day memes in a time period it does not belong in, an anachronism, and they replace perfectly legible memes (Rance's gahaha, Fate reference) with their garbage.“That’s what Jesus meant,” whispers the ghost of Slothrop’s first American ancestor William, “venturing out on the Sea of Galilee. He saw it from the lemming point of view. Without the millions who had plunged and drowned, there could have been no miracle. The successful loner was only the other part of it: the last piece to the jigsaw puzzle, whose shape had already been created by the Preterite, like the last blank space on the table.” “Wait a minute. You people didn’t have jigsaw puzzles.” “Aw, shit.”
>>737575530English is context-dependent enough that even if you mangle it pretty badly in terms of pronunciation and grammar, it's usually not hard for the other person to figure out what you mean, and to do so quickly enough for it to work for casual conversation. That's the main reason it spread so easily. Any two people who both speak English as a second language, poorly, can communicate with it and do so reasonably well.
>>737582079>We can't expect God to do all the workWords to live by. Make sure to tell your friends and family you care about them.
>>737582218Seems to only change the UI.
>>737582730...oh.
>>737582059Am i having a stroke?
>>737582448>The basic idea is correct; the original Japanese is full of 2000's Japanese memes, so the English version should reflect that. The problem is that the translation is incompetent. They use modern day memes in a time period it does not belong in, an anachronism, and they replace perfectly legible memes (Rance's gahaha, Fate reference) with their garbage.Sums up my views on this issue pretty much. I don't mind localizations taking liberties to translate the original meaning/intent to a different audience but removing memes/references that any average weeb would understand and erasing all of the cultural and historical context that defines its setting is just egregiously incompetent work if you at all take your job as a "localizer" seriously. it dilutes the piece of art into something easily digestible and unremarkable, which while it might boost sales in the short term(not in this case) it ends up damaging the artwork's soul on a deeper level.like imagine if someone localized Welcome to the NHK and inserted a bunch of zoomer memes, totally removing it from the late 90's/early 00's era Japan that it took place in. someone reading it 10 or 20 years from now would be completely lost reading that translation.
>>737582850the game is based on Alice in Wonderland and a lot of the dialogue is intentionally meant to be nonsense as insanity is a heavy theme of the game.
>>737580159>excuse for europoors to seethe at the one language that will survive the endtimesAmericans are anglos and will never be anything other than european anglos
>>737582850 “He might bite,” Alice cautiously replied, not feeling at all anxious to have the experiment tried.“Very true,” said the Duchess: “flamingoes and mustard both bite. And the moral of that is—‘Birds of a feather flock together.’”“Only mustard isn’t a bird,” Alice remarked.“Right, as usual,” said the Duchess: “what a clear way you have of putting things!”“It’s a mineral, I think,” said Alice.“Of course it is,” said the Duchess, who seemed ready to agree to everything that Alice said; “there’s a large mustard-mine near here. And the moral of that is—‘The more there is of mine, the less there is of yours.’”“Oh, I know!” exclaimed Alice, who had not attended to this last remark, “it’s a vegetable. It doesn’t look like one, but it is.”“I quite agree with you,” said the Duchess; “and the moral of that is—‘Be what you would seem to be’—or if you’d like it put more simply—‘Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.’” “I think I should understand that better,” Alice said very politely, “if I had it written down: but I can’t quite follow it as you say it.”“That’s nothing to what I could say if I chose,” the Duchess replied, in a pleased tone.
>>737582850Lewis Carroll is the pioneer of literary stroke induction, it's perfectly accurate.
>>737582912Steins;Gate translators got it right more than a decade agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly6NXmfT5go
>>737583134I'd prefer if they just kept nullpo as is because it's also programmer humor.
>>737583064Did lewis caroll also write this?
>>737583248It's so fun to bully him
Kyaaaa =3Hugh!! Those bad robots are going to kill us >.< Also, don't play with english dub.
>>737583248take every red optoin every time
bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!
>>737583390what
>>737583439>she doesn't recognise the most important word in English Literature
>>737582448This is a known blind spot in translations/localization: references. Obviously this game's translation has major issues, but for people to know references from the 90s or 00s they had to be there unless there's some sort of translation note pop-up made by the creator that says "NOTE: This is reference to 2003 internet meme from Game A".Most translators for this stuff are people in their 20s from around the world, they're not going to know references from Japan that only made it to 4chan or other niche places 20 years ago. Sucks, but that's life. That's why you need fansubbers with teams of middle-age dorks, but I can't imagine there's many of those around.
>>737583752Or you could just...look shit up on dic.pixiv.net.
>>737583832Huh, Japan has its own knowyourmeme? Not sure how to feel.
>>737579475That's simply not true. I've read all of the books and the best literature was written in English around the turn of the 20th century.
>>737561008probably french or german
>>737559727Unfortunately most non-ENG translations are translated FROM the ENG version. It's cheaper to get a local ENG translator than a JAP/KR/CN translator so that's what they do 90% of the time. So ENG trannies are actually ruining games for the entire world
>>737561438Normalfags who boughted it for mental illness larping would love this TL for being wacky and memey, they do not care for the source. Expect streamers or vtubers to just laugh along and have no criticism towards the TL
>>737584083That's bullshit and you know it.Look at Crunchyroll's tranime trannylations, the english translation is the worst by far and all other languages actually don't destroy the original material at all.Wanting to remove Japanese culture from Japanase media is exclusively an English phenomenon.
>>737564229end fascism asking questions chud
>>737583752>but for people to know references from the 90s or 00s they had to be thereI think this kinda thing just adds layers of depth to a game and are integral to people's enjoyment.Like no one complains that to understand all of Elden Ring's lore you have to go to a wiki or some lore youtuber and jump through a bunch of hoops researching ancient religions, books, magic systems, etc that are referenced in the game. It gives you extra steps you can engage in as a fan of the work to maximize your enjoyment and understanding of the art.Ironically the same localizers(Dragonbaby) that worked on Yunyun Syndrome also worked on Signalis, and that game is absolutely full of anime, politics, lovecraftian horror, and other random shit that requires a deep dive on the player's part to fully understand. It even has an entire ingame "magic" system based on a real world pseudoscience movement that was based in the developer's home country. None of this can be easily understood unless the player goes out of their way to look for it online or just so happened to already know about it. The game obviously won't tell you. The King in Yellow is literally the core catalyst for the entire game's story and descent into madness and anyone that isn't familiar with the book would be totally confused about its significance unless they did a google search. This kinda thing gives games a lot more lore "depth" and shouldn't be removed from them at the risk of removing understanding.
>>737584269I'm sure someone using words like "tranime" is well versed in this. Most modern English translations are done by third worlders because they're cheaper. Places like CR have an office in America or Europe with some overpaid yuppies posting on twitter and goofing off on discord all day, but for the actual work they outsource it all.
>>737559727I’m from Argentina, it used to be not too long ago that Spanish translations were absolutely terrible, phoned in and just awful. If you wanted to play a Japanese game you had to get the English translation, and for western games you had to play the original. It’s incredible seeing how bad English translations have fallen. They were literal peak and now they’re at the bottom of the barrel
>>737584931No they weren't. Xenogears translation sucked, so did Tsuikihime+F/SN. Dragon Quest was getting lolcalised constantly. We only started getting some decent translations in the 10's/early 20's (Dies Irae, Subahibi, Muramasa, Black Souls)
>>737585096You have no idea how bad non English translations were. You pretty much always knew that if you got the English version of the game at least it would be decent and also your best choice. Even if a translation wasn’t perfect you knew it would beat any alternative that wasn’t playing the original. English was always the language for gaming. I don’t know how it happened but they ruined it
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>>737585485
>>737585362japanese translations basically went from dogshit(1980's, 1990's, early 2000's) due to companies like 4Kids thinking "localizing" means "ensuring the viewer doesn't know this work is from Japan and not America"then we had a bit of a renaissance of localizations in the mid 00's and early 2010's where companies just gave you exactly what was on the box and expected consumers to exercise their own agency when it comes to what media they consume and whether it's "appropriate" or not.and now we've come full circle with jews trying to inject propaganda into asian media to make it "american" just like 4kids.maybe in 4 or 5 years we'll go back to having good localizations again.
>>737579486How is a language with cases easier than the simplest language on earth?Pronunciation is literally the least important part of a language because people will understand you regardless.
>>737582059>>737583064>>737583248>>737583290>black sludge faggots enter the thread>terrible thread somehow manages to get even worse as they spew their absolute filth and sewage all over the placeFuck you, fuck your shitty fanbase, fuck your games, fuck anyone who likes that shit. God, fuck off already you utter bottom-feeding slugs.
>>737579486Have you actually learned Latin? Can you at least read Caesar?
>>737585773>black sludgeis that supposed to be an insult? lmfao
>>737568494>>737573514Sadly difficulty of your native language doesn't seem to influence how hard other languages are to learn. Passively learning your native language as a babby is just that powerful. We need to revert to babby
>>737561008Learn spanish if your plan is to consume vidya without autism like OP post.>>737561271Don't learn german, fewer games come in german than spanish, this is a simple fact.
>>737579650>and...Everyone else. All English has are modern pop authors that talk about bullshit.Have you ever heard of Hesiod? Petrarch? And so on.>>737579778Funny because I've read English "literature" and it's exactly what you would expect, modern goyslop.>>737583973Like what?
>>737585634time is a flat fucking circle
>>737561008Dutch or French. Italian and Spanish are close enough behind both that those 4 might as well be mutually easy.
>>737585773Why shouldn't I talk about one of the few well-translated games in a translation thread? One that did its research and had actual effort put into it?
>>737585603Bringing your game TO Japan? Why the fuck would anyone consult this gaijin for that?
>>737586102Just because you PERSONALLY like it (Black Sludge fans go to bat hard for this bullshit series because their feeble coombrains leave them able to appreciate little else in life) does not make it a good example or a "well-translated" game.
>>737586182“His” “company” is called dragonbaby so it’s related to the same network of localization and consulting companies with baby in their name. They basically extort easily influenced executives into paying for their overpriced tranny services
>>737584761You don't need to outsource translations in 2026, retard, you can just let Grok do it and then clean it up. It's a nepo job these days, the bosses niece does it
>>737586353>does not make it a good example or a "well-translated" game.Why not?
>>737586371Imagine going to this website https://www.loc-x-load.com/ and thinking that these are the guys I want in change of my pet project.
>>737586464For one, copying and pasting public domain literature wholesale into your shitty porn game does not, in fact, make it a serious work of art.
>>737584931Shitting on spanish (Spain) dubs is beating a dead horse but I don't understand how people could stand hearing the same 4 soulless voices in every fucking game, over and over and over...https://youtu.be/Hf3DChIWrW8?si=bZifQnaghZ9KwChB>¡Que te jodan!I wonder if brazilians and portuguese people had the same issue.
>>737585773People forget anons used to slurp the original BS F95 """translation""" until the nigger who posted it was forced to admit it was rewritten MTL.When rare_cats dropped his own pretty much every single theory in /hgg2g/ was wrong as they were based on the MTL.
>>737584931>>737585362Be happy that we have decent ES translations that save us from the modern lolcalized shit, chorianon.I've been trying Spanish versions of several titles lately, Expedition 33 in particular was pretty good.
>>737586182These people think Japan will unconditionally accept them because they're racists who think asians are naturally subservient to white people and that if they translate their slop into japanese it will sell millions
>>737586895I'm worried about DRH... apart from the mandatory MTL we seemingly can't escape from these days, will the real translation even be competent without uncommon_felines? Will they keep Columbo's speech patterns?>>737587149I really like checking out the amateur song translations, given that they're essentially trying to translate nonsense language a la Nier.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVKvRIYQKxs
>>737559727I do know a bit of Russian but I was always lazy in school so it's not good enough to watch/play something in the language :(
>>737565551>It’s not clear whether the Wikipedian – who identifies as a Christian furry living in the US – has spent the past near-decade creating thousands of fake posts as some kind of incredible practical joke, or that they honestly felt they were doing a good job.lmao
>>737562253thats why the world speaks english
>>737587473We need more cool soundtracks with conlangs. Ar Tonelico, Nier, E33... shit's pretty good.
>>737559727>learn the original language>no translation available
>>737559851Kek
>>737587473>will the real translation even be competent without uncommon_felines?No, rare_cats was unironically doing god's work.With how much MTLslop get pushed these days it will absolutely take years, if ever to get a decent translation for EMMM's new games.You're unironically better off picking up japanese right now. You'll probably be able to read Paradox half a decade before a full translation too.
>>737559727why is portuguese so funny if you already know spanish?
>>737585950>Like what?"Saki," Mencken, Dahl, "Mark Twain," Oscar Wilde
>>737561843filtered, jap syntax and grammar is actually very easy, it easier to learn to speak and understand 70% of moonspeak without knowing a single rune.
>>737561008Learning Spanish imo.Honestly if you take an english word and twist it to sound spanish you have a 50% chance of it being the actual spanish word.
>>737559827END FASCISM!
>>737588035You are not funny.
>>737561843so desu.
>>737587770I somehow didn't realise Ar Tonelice used a conlang despite having played it. Or maybe I just forgot about it, it's been like a decade.Medžuslovjansky is a pretty cool language. It's magical how it's somehow legible.>>737587998>Honestly if you take an english word and twist it to sound spanish you have a 50% chance of it being the actual spanish word.
>>737588086But thats the official translation?
>>737588170
>>737587998Thats because the intellectual part of english vocabulary comes from latin
>>737565349>the only actual solution to your problem is learning japanese.>Every other language will have different kinds of translation and localization quirks that deviate from the reference."Professional" Japanese to English translations are the only ones where this kind of outright vandalism happens regularly. It's 100x worse than any of the alternatives.
>>737588170To be fair, it's easy to miss that hymmnos is a proper conlang if you aren't autistic about analyzing these things.
>>737561843moreover there is no grammatical equivalent of は in english
>>737567589thats like 500 hours and it gets progresively easier can easily be done in 2-3 years <1 hour a day, with the help of anki of course ,correct tools and methodologyInstead of cooming you brains out use that increased T levels to learn something new in your pathetic life.
>>737588170>Le manuscripta de mi plays
I want long-term anime/jp game fan localization. Include honorifics, leave many common words untranslated in roumanji. If the translation doesn't look like an English-Japanese pidgin you did it wrong.
>Haruko Momoi voices a characterOh shit, now I gotta buy it. gonna play in Spanish though
>>737588318>moreover there is no grammatical equivalent of は in english???
>>737588475Both Momoi AND Nanahi.
I'm not upset that they figured out that the game was supposed to be about a terminally memebrained shitposter and tried to translate it to something functionally equivalent, I'm more sad that what passes for brainrot in English-speaking online circles is just free palestine bash the fash or whatever
>>737574168german is a very autistic language
>>737588518Game takes place in 2012, using brain rotten gen alpha slang in that context is really stupid.
>>737588518And it's not like it's IMPOSSIBLE to translate to said functionally equivalent elements... Case in point: Akiba Strip 2. Too bad Xsneed went ahead and removed 'trap' from the updated version thoughThis game features an absurd amount of 2ch lingo and it was mostly adapted pretty well, using stuff that was accurate for that time period. Nana's overuse of stupid 'bro' nicknames ticked me off though.
>>737561008>easy modeSpanish, Italian>normal modeGerman, Dutch, Scandinavian languages>hard modeGreek, Russian, Polish>artificial difficulty modeArabic, Chinese>you will never learn it modeJapanese
>>737588518Nobody here would be mad if they used ROFLCOPTER or All Your Base Are Belong To Us for memes unfamiliar to the western audience (nullpo... gah!) and kept the familiar memes (Rance, Fate). The brainrot shit needs to go.
>>737559851Your funny
Apparently there's an AMA with the devs, but it's on fucking Discord of all things.Anyone with an account that can go ahead and ask about why every translation is good EXCEPT for the English one?
>>737588616inb4 Steins Gate Reboot TL works at least 6, 7 anachronisms in there
>>737588830You're going to be banned for transphobia
>>737588830Theyd answer with theres nothing wrong with the english translation
>>737588708>Nana's overuse of stupid 'bro' nicknames ticked me off though.I liked all the broski (bromeo, brozo) variations in 9-nine-
>>737583752References in the game stand out. A competent translator would see most of them even if they were oblivious to the works referenced. And there's >>737583832 or the niconico dictionary. Two "japanese knowyourmeme" websites and they couldn't bother using a single one.
>>737586807That wasn't the question, retard
>>737588318xは,="Regarding x," or "As for x," etc.
>>737586895Everyone knew the fag95 version was mtl back when it was posted
>>737587918Para con eso!
>>737589076Yeah, can confirm, it was exclusively fagzone jerking that guy off. Nobody in /hgg2d/ did aside from indian tourists which we were getting a lot of at the time.
>>737588518You should be mad because they are saying 2020s internet is interchangeable with 2000s internet and we all know that isn't true and is just insulting to the 2000s
>>737582448The guy who translated S;G 0 and Chaos Child for MAGES was one such person (a veteran oldfag who'd been in multiple vintage sub groups like Shinsen Subs and after jumping to Crunchyroll stayed in the industry for years) but that guy quit translating to become the head of global marketing for anchor (muv-luv) and now he's working for an AI research company in Japan with a focus on AI based JP to EN translation
>>737559727Woke guy here, what game is this?I do agree with the core message that fascism fucking sucks and it should end, I don't think it's really appropriate in this kind of situation. I 100% want there to be faithful, accurate translations of games, and I highly doubt that this is what the original writers actually wanted. I don't care what kind of mental gymnastics or bullshit people would pull to justify horrible localizations or translations like this, I don't want a horribly localized version of, say, Silent Hill 2 that turns it's masterful writing into the ADV Ghost Stories dub.We need more people with Sonic Fan autism who go out of their way to mod their games to have more accurate, faithful translations of the original script.https://gamebanana.com/mods/609741
>>737559727The English translation is so spectacularly atrocious though that the publisher should be punished for including it in the first place. One could go so far as to call it malicious. There hasn't been an inside job like this since Don Mattrick.
>>737589186Yup, we were constantly shitting on it and warning people about it but people who just come by for a translation patch didn't listen until the tard on fag95 said it himself. Fag95 always had people trying to pass off mtls as real translations back then which is why we knew it was trash
>>737589461I vaguely recall we even had this gigantic infographic image of why it was dogshit.
>>737589457Considering it's only the ENG translation I don't think they knew. Every other language is in unison with each other (barring one or two russian lines)
>>737589265Many of the translators from that period have over the years gotten out of actual translating and moved up the value chain to do things like becoming translation managers, starting their own businesses, diversifying into other areas like how Steiner is now a P-san for a vtumor group on the side, or just quitting altogether and doing something that they can actually pay a mortgage and send their kids to college with.
>>737589540>infographic imageYou recall correctly
>>737561843Putting verbs at the end means you have a SOV(L).
>>737589579If it's an honest mistake then fine, and I can even believe that to be the case, but it should be acknowledged and addressed. This should not stand in any language.
>>737569951Estonia has more women than men, is relatively poor and they're absolutely beautiful. Not sure why it's not incel heaven.
>play japanese game>see niggercoal meme filled sentence>"oh, they probably just said something normal here"
>>737589769The Steam forum for it has 2 pages of threads with people complaining and the reviews have a lot of people pointing things out there too. The devs should see this and hopefully shoot for a retranslation from a better group.
>>737561843>>737589698>their language is so weakly inflected that they have to enforce a strict word order to be understood*laughs in Polish*
>>737589769My assumption is that the Japanese side was told that they're translating the jokes to something that English speakers would understand and enjoy and okayed it in principle, but obviously the Japanese side has no understanding of why the way it was done is such a hackjob.
Postan' a classic
>>737590202This is like taking a job at mcdonalds and not only spitting in all the food but trying to find the most evil, sadistic ways of poisoning it.
>>737585934Happens in Spanish too https://www.hobbyconsolas.com/opinion/te-molesta-lenguaje-inclusivo-spider-man-2-buscate-otro-hobby-videojuegos-no-son-ti-1324182
English is the only language worth knowing. No anime-related entertainment is worth experiencing.
>>737561178Korean is awful. The writing system is genius and easy enough to learn, but the language itself is a nightmare, especially for someone that just knows English.Getting your toes in the Romance languages with Spanish is probably the easiest and a decent recommendation. I personally like French dubs and would recommend that for a good dub/sub choice. though it's a bit more work, unless you're near Quebec where you might encounter it more often.
>>737573703>I have no idea what about it is aspirational.They jump to avoid falling.
The time difference between an "easy" language and a "hard" language is irrelevant, especially to a 4chud loser who will just give up after a week in either case.
>>737564754AI localization is faithful to a fault. It's home grown, hand crafted vandalism that does this.
>>737572736this is the only way they can spread their troon ideology
>>737572736If you think of it as a memetic parasite that will die if not spread it starts to make a lot more sense.
>>737559727whats wrong with ending fascism?
>>737591349because japan lost the war
>>737559727>That imageJesus Christ, is it real?? If so, what game??
>>737561008It's easy to pick up Spanish by watching movies and the like.
>>737566491He's doing a bit on the fact that brazilian favelators love adding in swear swords and gay slang to translations and voice overs.
>>737591349There is nothing wrong with ending fascism.The problem is the fact that the localizers didn't make a faithful translation.
>>737591349Has nothing to do with what's actually being said. It's like the translators couldn't find a better place to say the line so they forced it there.
>>737591681Yunyun Syndrome, featuring Sweaty Hikkitits here.
>>737591349Unless you count a small amount private citizens with no power LARPing (and israel), fascism is ended.
lol calm down /v/
>>737561741You just needed some Germans first :)
>>737593006This shit's as punched up as the game is.
>>737593006This guy can't write believable bait worth shit.
>>737593006based
>>737561843Thankfully, this doesn't matter that much if you just want to understand the text.
>>737592424Damn bitch, you live like this?
>>737589379Yunyun Syndrome.Feel free to take a crack at it, Sonicfags. This is probably the worst localisation in recent memory
>>737593006Hi Seb.
>>737559727Evil can not create. It can only destroy.
>>737589379Rare cool woke guy.
>>737562385>Planned on getting the game with next week's paycheck>This shit happensOh well, i'll wait for the fitgirl repack then.
>>737574168English is a whore language with extensive french/latin loanwords. Language itself is a loanword.
>>737593576But enough about Trump and his voters
>>737582448what was the meme here that needed replacing?The translator is just a gigantic faggot
>>737593576Wait do these fags really think that 'strong, independent' women who whine for the government to save them from muh evil patriarchy are LESS whiny than japanese wallflower introvert girls?
>>737594164
>>737592424real hikkis are not this cute
>>737559851Ayyyyyyyyyy
>Localizers are so bad that people are cheering for AI to replace a creative fieldImagine being so insufferable that you are going against Satan and people are siding with the latter.
>>737594462AI has no soul but it has no agenda either.
>>737588451This but unironically.
>>737594462>creative fieldNo. You translate the fucking text, you do not add your own "creative" content to it
>>737594919There is always a dose of creativity when translating, even if you are the author and speak multiple languages.However, I don't blame you for being hostile to the concept since this is the very same Trojan Horse that's been abused in order to fuck everything up forever.
>>737593576>racism and colonialism is okay when it's against Japan>the middle east? we have to respect their culture!
>>737594462This is actually very common.Capitalism usually rolls out societally destructive changes by first amplifying and elevating the worst examples of things like unions, universal healthcare, free speech, public education, pensions, etc as public scandals so they can then use them as propaganda to support their new "revolutionary" idea that is just feudalism 2.0. the same people that invest in these horrible localization companies that destroy Japanese culture are also invested in AI companies that are going to make the localizers obsolete. they know that by making the localizers do controversial shit, and hiring only the worst dregs of society for these positions, they can then respond to any controversy caused by their minions by announcing they've replaced them with AI or Indians or just straight up "downsized" the industry like what happened with Gaming as a whole and it'll be met with cheers by the tourists who just want to see their ideological enemies "lose" even if it's at their own long-term expense. obviously I don't feel sorry for anyone involved in this debacle but I do feel sorry for the actual localizers and translators watching this from the sidelines and seeing their industry destroyed by bourgeois schemes while the masses cheer.tl;dr jews are in control
>>737595038>trying to twist a thread about the jews destroying japanese culture into cheerleading the jews destroying a subcontinentnice try shlomo
Oh a communist, I mean socialist
>>737594529>it has no agendaThe people that train it do however.
>>737594529This.You honestly summed it up perfectly. I'll go back to supporting localizations when they remove the problem infesting them. Until then, AI it is.
>>737595083I think it's more of a case of businesses exploiting a tragedy rather than programming because localizers being terrible has been a meme for decades.The oldest example I remember is Earthbound where the localizer changed Paula's character in order to make her less girly because he deemed that wasn't progressive enough.
>>737559727nani gemu desu ka?
>>737595164You're retarded. The faggots who push for inclusiveness were all about ignoring the down sides of muslim culture but they never seem to be able to do the same when it comes to Japan. They support shit like Sharia while saying nips are sexist and women there are second class citizens who are always in danger of being raped hence the female only train cars
>>737588170The Recognitions was a really great book. I'm glad we have at least one other Gaddis appreciator in the thread.
>>737595083>and it'll be met with cheers by the tourists who just want to see their ideological enemies "lose" even if it's at their own long-term expenseThis sums up right versus left politics pretty much. It always amazes me the new ways rich people come up with to distract the populace.
>>737561008for weeb shit? french I am not joking
>>737595236no you don't understand anon, everything bad progressives do is actually a psyop by capitalist pigs to prevent you from achieving class consciousness and fighting for the intersectional socialist utopia. progressives aren't really bad, only capitalists are.
>>737561008Don't bother trying. It's over for you. Best you can do is learn a few phrases and then spend all your time complaining that the language "doesn't make sense" because things are different from how they are in English.
>>737564754Cunt, we all know this shit wasn't AI, don't push this bullshit now.
>>737595083Oh, fucking kill yourself, troon. They literally did this to themselves. They could not stop forcing their contemporary sociopolitical beliefs where they don't belong, and when people, rightfully, got sick of it, they RIGHTFULLY went to AI. And now, here you are, refusing to see the issue, and crying "LE CAPITALISM DID DIS!!"No, troon. You did this. People had zero (0) issue buying localized games 10, 15, 20, and even 30 years ago when you faggots could stop forcing your beliefs into everything for five minutes. Or, y'know, before millennials became localizers. It's hilarious seeing you say, "w-what about the poor good localizers??"What "good ones"? Where? Literally point to them. Are they in the room with us right now.
>>737559851baseded
>>737595572He's actually right, the company credited for the other translations is an AI-assisted Japanese localization companySupposedly they have actual professionals checking everything over but they're not shy about admitting their whole thing is using AI to accelerate the translation process
>>737594462Honestly, I hate AI, but holy fucking shit, I genuinely want every single English localizer to be replaced by AI, I want them homeless and destitute until they can no longer take care of themselves and choose to commit suicide.These people are a genuine cancer on humanity.
>>737595590>People had zero (0) issue buying localized games 10, 15, 20, and even 30 years ago when you faggots could stop forcing your beliefs into everything for five minutes.they were still forcing their beliefs in even then. they just weren't doing it as frequently or as overtly.>What "good ones"? Where? Literally point to themthey don't work in anime, manga, or games translation.
>>737595236The people hired for localization is usually a publisher decision not a game dev decision tho. Oftentimes these idiots think they can boost sales by appealing to the cutting edge of youth culture but inevitably it just makes people mad and then they pivot and blame the contracted localizer team for doing what they were told to do.I suspect that's what's going on here, not to defend the retards at Dragonbaby but they localized dozens of other games just fine, including weird Japanese games like NSO that fit into a similar cultural territory, so they definitely are capable of doing a "proper" localization. It's very likely the publisher asked them to add some "spice" and "memes" to the translation and rather than add millennial internet memes that zoomers wouldn't understand, or just 1:1 translating the japanese memes, they thought it would be cool to idk, insert a bunch of zoomer slang and sjw nonsense. Then the publisher saw this and approved it because "we might get the tiktok audience" or whatever and now the game is forever ruined.
>>737595704But he's talking about the english translation only which we know was by Dragonbaby
>>737595704Slimy little cunt.
>>737595786Oh I thought the topic was the russian for some reasonmy bad
>>737595736>braindead chud likes aiNO WAI
>>737595590You need to stop believing the myth that woke only started existing in 2016.
>>737595590>CAPITALISM forced me to alter Japanese text to include my political beliefs, chud!
>>737559851kurwa jebany
>>737595759NSO was a fluke that worked because of the time it came out
>>737595884https://www.dragonbaby.com/#portfolioyou can see they worked on a lot of fairly successful games and didn't pull this shit. even the anime games didn't have outright propaganda thrown in.
>>737559851top kek
>>737595590>Literally point to them.These guys completely butchered the original show but no ones cares because you think they're funny.
>>737588518anglo speaking sphere is nothing but psyops brainwashing 24/7, anglos are truly jewish best slaves
>>737595207That's not applicable to AI translations in video games. An AI model will never translate a shopkeeper's dialogue from>ありがとうございます。良い一日を。to>Ugh. Thanks for supporting a fascist capitalistic regime that wants to kill all trans folx, nazi chud. like a millennial localizer will.
>>737595083Did this "capitalism" force you to ruin a game's translation by erroneously inserting your political beliefs?
>translating "yamero" as "end fascism" and "iranai" as "i'd cut my uterus out if i cld"I-is this the worst english translation in a video game of all time?
>>73757416860% of english words are borrowed from latin, but only about 5% for german. You are learning basically everything, but a lot of words in romance languages will have cognates.
>>737559727What game?
>>737595083>Capitalism
>>737572736Most vidya trannylators are politically motivated retards who infiltrated themselves in the field to push their crap. It's such a low hanging fruit that anyone who can read can do it, you don't even need a degree, unless you are translating shit for a big AAA. Same reason why vidya journalism sucks.
>>737596010Then they should have known better, even if the publisher was all "spice it up!" (Which is odd that they only asked this of the english translation)
>>737568953Because we gave trannys or bad actors the reign of culture and look at that they cant produce shit that isn't tranny propaganda
>>737597293>the reign of culturethis is a shitty obscure game nobody gives a fuck about
>>737597497I care because schizo fat tiddies hikki.
>>737597497Then why fuck with the translation?
>>737597528ok but it's not exactly "culture"
>>737597584I don't know, ask them.
>>737597590DON'T DISRESPECT MY PEOPLE
>>737596068>Ghost StoriesThey lied too, they convinced the studio that the show was a lost cause when it did alright in Japan.
>>737595704>somehow the AI slop translation managed to be accurate to the original source, to the point of including all the references >meanwhile, the English localization...You can’t make this shit up.
its so fucking weird. i started reading case closed again and only read it in german since i was a lil kid and all those name changes are crazy to me. kamen yaiba is samurai kid, all the westernized names for most of the main characters taking place in japan, canon english sections just straigt up missing because it is in english (that one i cant really blame them). i'm happy the germans are really neat and precise up to a fault, or used to be. i'm guessing most of the other european translations are similar, as i know for a fact the french and italians have a big manga scene. americans have no respect for culture at all.
>>737598540It's really just Japan that America treats this way
>page 10autosaging?
>>737599016Yeah, we can't have threads that show trannies in a bad light.But the capcom tranny threads? They can go for days.
>>737589257That's because they are legitamate normalfags whose only interface with the internet was with and forever was through their phones. Steve jobs created these people by giving everyone access to the internet which was a bad idea and is costing society now gravely. These people literally do not belong on the internet because in a normal world they would've just had a passing interest in it
>>737599042Trannies hate Pragmata though
