Is PSO2 really the best Action RPG MMO out atm now that BnS, Tera, Lost ark, and BDO are all dead? Crazy work, guess i might actually have to come back. I miss my chocolate feet kicker anyways. Convince me the game is good again.
>>737566218Its not
>>737566218It's fun at times. I wouldn't ever call it the best, maybe during its height before NGS.Right now though and for about 2 years now I've been having more fun playing PSOBB and PSU than NGS. Though I do miss my little brat.
>>737566328Why do ppl hate NGS so much
>>737567863It just doesn't feel like PSO to me. I always see it as a bad Genshin clone with the PSO name taped onto it.
>>737567985I should have said I am not an NGS hater. I just feel like it is the weakest entry in the online Phantasy Star titles.
>>737566218The monetization is fucking retarded thoughThey even removed trading
>>737566218Nobody fucking does team up missions in ngs and that really rustles my jimmies
>>737567863Because they killed my decade long running action mmo for an unfinished slab of open world garbage.
NGS isn't really a bad game. It's just not nearly as good as PSO2.
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>>737566218fuck no lmaoits in the same sorry state it was in years ago, nothing's changed, it's only gotten worse and more stalewhile there was just an update so the numbers are a little up, before that it didn't manage to reach 1k concurrent and had lows in the 600sif even the shit eating groomer faggots abandon it, what could you possibly hope could be there for you?
>>737570281NGS is very much a bad game.
>>737571694>game quality is dictated by player numbersbrown hands typed this post
>>737571694So, Unironically Blade and Soul is a better game.
>>737571990>bns post neothey made a bad game worse and I'm impressed2016 bns never again
>>737566218>Convince me the game is good againI cannot in good faith do it. Find literally anything else to play.It's just a dogshit generic open world slop that hasn't even bothered to add a new zone in years. All they bother adding are levelcap raises, which do nothing but raise numbers. New skills, new areas, new anything but endless cosmetics gacha spam? Go fuck yourself.Want to make money with actual gameplay? Go fuck yourself, mindlessly grind PSE zones where enemies die in one hit for hours on end. Grind this for 12 hours straight to be able to buy a normal non-lewd outfit from the bogged to shit playermarket. That's your fucking gameplay.
>>737571990i havent played bns but i would bet money on it
>>737566218Maybe but that just means it's the last one standing.It hasn't been good since JP Ep3. Maybe Ep4.
>>737571990>good>those feet
>>737572132I don't want new zones. I just want the zones to be more dense. Right now it's what a dozen ryukker devices then you just run in circles for PSE?It's fucking empty. But then again games like FFXIV are even more empty and considered a success so who tf knows.
>>737572625>not liking 3 toed paw jobsFaggot.
>>737572703I'm mad that they even reduced the diversity of quests. We used to go to different places for different things, like back when everyone was farming duels. Later there were two runs of relay quests, which were universally liked even by japs. And now since the beginning of the year there's only one relevant quest at any time.
>>737567863PSO2 players were very happy that starting a mission would just take you to the area that mission was in. NGS added walking through an empty WoW field to get to the next quest.
>>737575260When I try explaining this to people about open world games they look at me like I'm retarded. Instead of just playing the fun content in games you are now required to walk to it. Usually they say something like "there's little things to find like korok seeds" and a good rebuttal is just to say that they'd never pay for a game that's just korok puzzles.Yet they still argue for open world
>>737566218It's probably still Tera, it's amazing how shit MMO developers are at creating action oriented gameplay.
>>737571990Umm... anon
>>737567863Because it stopped being PSO and morphed into a shit discount MMO with ultra heavy micro transaction bullshit.
FYI tera is still playable and getting updates on console
I started it recently, 14 days ago.It starts fun but then it gets totally repetitive, like one weekly is doing the same quest 20 timesThe open world isn't interesting, it's totally empty, you just have 4 towns and that's it.
>>737578030Fake numbers. 99% of BnS Neo population is on purple because of live BnS. No one actually got Neo on steam since you got all the rewards through purple.
>>737578189>MMO without mods What's the point?
>>737566218LOL no, its complete trash
>>737578361>i need to cum to enjoy anythingwhat's the point of living if your life revolves around this?
>>737571990Aion2 will kill this for good
>>737578746You mean TERA2https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/19535/krafton-greenlights-tera-2
Why are there no action mmos on switch 2 its fucking perfect for it
>>737575260>NGS added walking through an empty WoW field to get to the next quest.how is that any different than PSO2 having you run REALLY SLOWLY(or be forced to have a weapon with a PA exclusively for movement and not combat) through the areas until the boss room?>>737578164that's not exclusive to ngs
>>737578946If PSO2 was on switch 2, which it could be, I would immediately go back to playing daily. I have so much time during my day to use portable systems that I've burned through my Switch library completely and dove back into my Vita backlog.Phantasy Star Nova btw deserves a port to pc or switch as well as a translation to English.
>>737575484I don't mind this in Skyrim but that's because I get sidetracked by stuff like picking flowers, mauling jewish elves, watching giants send predators to outer space and shanking orcs for skooma.
theres no way there are people in this thread defending ngs
>>737579000>how is that any different than PSO2 having you run REALLY SLOWLY(or be forced to have a weapon with a PA exclusively for movement and not combat) through the areas until the boss room?Nigger that is how PSO worked.That is the identity of the online Phantasy Star games.
>>737579000The areas until the boss room are exciting battles on their own. I like NSO more than most, but I don't like running through the same area yet again seeing the same enemies that are always there.
>>737579065Nobody is defending it. What posts are you reading? The most positive post about it is that it isn't as bad as people make it out to be but that it is still bad.
>>737579152>The areas until the boss room are exciting battles on their own.
>>737575484I don't like open world games, but I've gotten used to people treating that as a positive. There's a "bigger is better" mentality where people assume more area must mean more fun. In practice, it usually means the fun parts are now spread apart so far that it's a chore getting there.
>>737578489>not enjoy cumming to cute brats and ratswhats the point of living if you cant enjoy cumming?
>>737579321>plays in the most boring efficient way possible>doesn't have funmin/maxers will forever lose in gaming
>>737578808Is it launching with elins or is that only after the game flops and shits?
>>737579445Cum is like drugs.Daily or multiple times a day and you just become dull to it.I jerk off once a month. Since doing this I started having the most wild vivid and arousing dreams I've ever had. I wouldn't trade it. Plus the pleasure from that one cum is insane.Also only do heroine a few times a year for this reason too.
>>737567863On launch or current state? Launch varies from dislike of the (bad) open world to schizo theories. The current state of the game has thrown the open world out and the schizo theories have dried up. The modern reason to dislike NGS is that it's utterly P2W if you care at all about leaderboards or clearing end game stuff at top speed. To break down why:>Red box exploits on launch result in such wild inflation that vaguely desirable cosmetics were moving for 20-30 million n-meseta, which inflated rampantly for half a year before SEGA finally patched it>SEGA didn't actually fix the fact that the economy was destroyed by red box botters, since all they did was ban a few users and leave the fuckload of n-meseta in circulation>Fast forward a few years>There are still multiple n-meseta billionaires because of the exploits>In-game earning methods can't tally up those numbers so the only way to make large sums of n-meseta is to swipe on AC scratches and flip scratch items to people who would want them>All end game drops adopt the slot machine format, where you run 463 missions with 0 drops and then suddenly receive an item worth more n-meseta than you've ever had>This means that anyone who wants to gear up has to be able to put up the n-meseta to buy such a weapon, noting that there are 2 on the entire ship and they both will get sold to someone who can pay hundreds of millions for an item that will last 2 months (tops)>SEGA responds to complaints by-adding preset skill substitutes to AC scratch count bonuses, meaning that you can also pay $120-200 per month to guarantee your weapons will be fixa 5 (12%+ increased damage)The cost of having maximal gear is over $2000 per year of swiping and that's only for weapons.The only argument against this being an issue is>Why even play the game?>Why do you care about doing the things in the game?Which is a shorthand way of that person saying that they don't actually play the game so you shouldn't either.
>>737579635Unknown, they've only just recently ramped up to full development.
>>737579635like 4 guys just started working on it, we won't get a trailer for like 10 years
>>737578946>>737579036Brother, these companies can't even port their regular games to the Switch 2 correctly and you think they're going to invest even more resources into maintaining a Switch 2 port of an MMO? Also most of these companies do not like Nintendo. The CyberConnect2 CEO has literally begged multiple times to jap schoolkids to buy a PS5 lmao. Your best bet for portable play is to wait for the PS6 handheld next year.
>>737579694>>Red box exploits on launchSo that's what happened. I started playing after Retem came out and never knew. I saw some faggot flaunting screenshots of his multi-billion wallet and I wasn't sure if it was RMT, botting round the clock or gigawhaling.
>>737579321This is highly suboptimal. You are killing dramatically fewer enemies. You are playing extremely poorly. I would say learn to use launcher or some actual good photon arts, but you're group seems happy to be your enabler by carrying you.>>737579515This isn't minmax. Steady Shot is very low DPS for a ranger. They shouldn't be hitting individual trash enemies for entire photon arts. With such poor control, even Slideburst Zero would be a better trash clearing photon art for this faggot. This is a webm of someone being hard carried by the group.In NGS, the equivalent of this would be a ranger holding rifle normal attack and waiting for everyone else to clear the field.
>>737566218I am going to wait as long as it takes for the private server
>>737580286Skeletons can't use electronics.
>>737579657idk anon, the fact you typed that makes you either gay or female.
>>737580890worseim a balding hetero man in his mid 30s