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will the spire die one day?
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>>737563705
gg
creative ai and a signal boosted echo form from a pot meant that the days of the door were numbered
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>>737566353
that i'd rather have literally any other aoe card so sow is by definition not a good card just because it has retain? retard
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>You cannot change the past with anger.
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>>737568904
loli silent or meaty silent?
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>>737569396
ill take not feeling the need to jerk off to every game i play
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>>737564145
Mytes are obnoxious and require very specific cards that you are not always likely to have. Doom absolutely rapes them, but every other character has to deal with their obnoxious gimmick.
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>>737569396
Oppai loli Silent.
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>>737569396
Silent with cutest feet
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>>737569637
Honestly baffled they nerfed other fights and not that one. Toxic could be 4 damage and it would still be 23 damage which is a gigantic standard to beat on turn 2, like.
Sentry Dogs, Mytes and Hunter Killer are all basically guaranteed health taxes.
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>>737569396
Silent as a battle autist who gets excited to see big monsters, but still shows stoicism 100% of the time.
Aka, canon silent.
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>>737568904
What happened to her?
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>pros are unironically playing 55 card decks (no duplication/clone)
what's your excuse?
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So let me get this straight, Rainbow Ring requires that in a single turn you play Attack, Skill and Power to get that strength and dex gain?
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>>737570152
executed for her crimes against spire
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>>737569737
Oppai loli Silent vs Kyojiri loli Regent
who wins?
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>>737570206
baalorlord, frostprime, and jorbs are in my holy trinity of sts2 content. love those guys
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>>737570454
>frostprime, and jorbs
total faggots
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its so funny how bitchy streamers are on every single bad draw
you'd think they'd start to get used to the fact that a lot of the time they aren't gonna perfectly block every act 1 easy pool and they might take 10 or even 20 after the easy pools but every single time they have a sub optimal draw they bitch and moan and start looking back and forth between their draw and discard pile like they are in disbelief
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>>737570393
I dislike what they are doing with the Regent, they are too cowardly to make them a weird alien monstergirl and just made them a boring anime girl. 0/10 would not fuck or make oppai.
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>>737569972
Yeah I dislike all the 'HP tax' rooms. I also think that the books reducing your max HP Is one of the worst gimmicks they have come up with, since that's basically 'oh you didn't draw 30 block? Lose max hp.'
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My winrate has gone up significantly after I realized you basically should never take hallway fights so you can stay in the easy pool for as long as possible
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>>737570454
Baalaris the prime for me, never really watched frost much, Jorbs is okay.
Nave Greed is a bit of an awkward autist but he's fine as background. Japanese Export is dogshit and his evaluation of cars befuddle me still.
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>>737570319
Yeah, it's pretty good on Ironclad and Regent especially since they have so many multihit attacks.
>>737570735
Same, but my reasoning is that I think the ? rooms are more fun than fights usually.
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>>737570558
the only watchable spire streamer is a google doc merchant now
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>>737570625
they need to make something that appeals to the lowest common denominator to get the most twitter likes and at that point it doesn't matter to actually make something relevant to the game itself either
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>>737570810
>? rooms are more fun than fights usually.
The fight rooms are just fights, the ? rooms could be anything
Could even be a fight!
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>>737570895
I agree, it's a boring Vtumor-tier design.
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>>737570735
I had a run where I got Paels sacrifice that I struggled and lost, but decided to replay and instead chase elites with a different relic. I lost more hp to the 2 chompers chasing hallway fights than I did on all elites put together between both runs.
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>>737570846
i find onepunman/opem pretty watchable. i watch japaneseexport and navegreed but jpexport is peak smug and nave is queen bitch
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>>737570810
alright, let's see if it pays off, was almost ready to call it quits, since I unlocked the relic that damages enemies when you exhaust...but I dunno, exhausting a card every turn, would I really benefit from it?
I am tempted to get it for shit and giggles but I don't know where to go from there.
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>>737570735
yeah, keep cruising through events unless you really need the card rewards.
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>make it to doorfag
>run out of cards because i either play my ethereal cards and exhaust them or save them and they exhaust
very good design. i LOVE that he even survived at 3 hp LOVE IT after dealing with the experinigger
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>>737570454
>frostprime
Too much whacky zoomy shit for me
Baal is goated
Jorbs is a pretentious fuck
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>>737571250
One copy of drum is ok for normal fights
Just don't play it early vs bosses
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>>737571251
>3 events in a row
>great I will avoid so many fights!
>2 of them are fights
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>>737570152
Don't worry they will add this unfun trash character back later
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>run out of cards because i either play my ethereal cards and exhaust them or save them and they exhaust
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>>737571631
the country of china would like a word with you
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no block in the first 3 card rewards as ironclad and then rolling skulking colony on the forced elite feels like the game just telling me to kill myself
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>>737571271
>falling for the exhaust meme
Listen, Exhaust is for Fancy Boys that Know how to count, me personally, I'm a simple Man, I take Strongth, I take Blonks
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>>737569396
Gymnast body.
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>>737570454
Frost is like 2 years away from transitioning.
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>>737571941
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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>Barricade + Pael Legion + Unmovable + Prolong.
>Even got History Course to replay it next turn.
Shame Barricade isn't worth it most of the time.
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>>737571250
That card can be pretty dangerous, I find. they buffed it on the beta branch though.

I wouldn't get it since it's basically a worse Battle Trance in every way.
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>>737570493
>two men in a relationship with women are fags
interesting take
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>>737571250
I would literally never take that card. Absolute dogshit that doesn't even have the benefit of playing it like havoc
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>>737572496
its possible to have a girlfriend and be gay dont ask me how i found out
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>>737572496
frostprime wears a dress, nail polish and is in an open relationship with his wife. jorbs is a huge narcissist who talks as if he's gods gift to earth. they're faggots.
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>>737570454
Frost is kinda cute, but I can't stand his content half the time.
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>>737572496
Jorbs probably isn't, he is just autistic. Frost openly talks about getting pegged by his gf.
It might take a few years for him to come out of the closet, but he likes dicks in his ass.
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Dare I say, KINO ?
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frostprime isn't trans pretty sure hes just a furry probably liked to self insert as a furry femboy and has bisexual tendencies all of which is kinda based and unironically way different from mentally ill twitter tranny nonsense
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>>737573112
>furry
>femboy
>bisexual
Not based
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I'll get used to it eventually but the name "Skulking Colony" and the unanimated pose the guy had before where it simply standing there staring at you gave off the impression of a slow, quiet and sinister kind of natural evil. The bending Jojo-like pose and flailing attacks is the complete opposite direction I was expecting.
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>>737571250
I love that version of Drums. A draw 2 for 0 energy is good in shorter fights. It combos nice with evil eye and forgotten ritual. I do think it’s kinda a meme but it’s fun
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what a dogshit selection
>but rocks are good
I already have one
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I like Marlowe Dobbe's art direction for 2 more than what they had for 1
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>>737573383
>the unanimated pose the guy had before where it simply standing there staring at you gave off the impression of a slow, quiet and sinister kind of natural evil
you know what... this is 100% accurate
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>>737573674
TURN ROCKS INTO ROCKS
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>>737573383
Yeah I like the old pose better. His fight is an immoveable wall you need to chip down over time and the old pose reflected that better. You put it pretty nicely; his stillness is kinda creepy and works well for his unique enemy gimmick.
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haven't played in a while, came back and eventually got this regent run. Forge still seems slow and punishing. Stars are still difficult to manage, you pretty much need to somehow order your cards so you don't get your spenders before you generators, or you can get fucked by RNG. In my case i had Shining Strike, 3 Cosmic Indifferences, and also Tyranny+ helped. Relics that were broken (as always):
Chosen Cheese, Sturdy Clamp, Lantern + Pael's Tears.
The new doormaker boss seems like the hardest, not sure how anybody dies to the other bosses...
So overall not much different than before the patch.
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>>737573674
Without knowing the context of your deck, I'm probably considering Mangle the most. It can often full block a turn so you dont even care about the 3 energy cost.
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>>737573594
Eh, I transformed it. I am playing with the expectation I wont make it, I passed the first boss just because I had the lizard tail.
>>737573674
What is wrong with Barricade?
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>>737573674
ROK! GSHH GSHH GSHH GSHH
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>>737570735
I like aiming to hit all of my easy pools as well as a shop or fire to see as many easy card rewards as possible before my first elite. Even better if the path gives me an option to opt out of the elite if I don't get decent damage.
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>>737574109
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post stats
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Fun tierlist
Regent > Necro > Silent > Iron > Defect
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>>737570454
I like frost's content the most out of them because he doesn't take himself too seriously. But he's also decently popular on twitch, so it can feel like zoomer daycare sometimes.
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>>737574582
Blacks account for 10% of the American population but commit 50% of the crime.
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>>737572807
I'll admit I didn't know that. I am both baffled and disgusted. How do you know this, man?
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>>737574119
>What is wrong with Barricade?
it costs 3 energy
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HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BLOCK WITH REGENT? HOOOOOOOOOOOOOW BRO? EVERY FUCKING CARD GIVES SUB 10 BLOCK WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BLOCK WITH YOU FUCKING BOZOS. ITS LITERALLY ONE FUCKING POWER FOR STARS SPENT AND I CANT FUCKING FIND IT EVER FUCK YOU SHITTY ASS COMPANY
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>>737574582
You can tell how much more multiplayer I play, lol.
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>>737575052
Bruh
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>>737573674
does fiddle work with pocketwatch?
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>>737575052
Cloak of stars? Proxy? There's lots of block for him.
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>>737575318
I believe so. Someone claimed it worked great for them in a thread before.
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>>737575728
I don't know what will work better, Apparitions or fiddle
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>>737575318
It says "two additional cards" not "seven cards" so it just tacks them on to whatever your card draw is at the start of the turn.
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>>737575052
Reflect and Bulwark are the power cards, and Cosmic Indifference is good if you have one of those because it lets you play Reflect and Bulwark every turn
You need like one more idea on top of that for Act 3 but that core alone takes you through most of the game
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>it's a bottom-decking corruption on the boss fight episode
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>>737575052
Glitterstream is a common, nigga
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>>737575853
Does Toxic Egg upgrade the apparitions? I know it does work that way in StS1. Might be worth if it does
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>>737575853
Can't see your deck so it's up to you. Draw is great but Apparation makes dealing with the Act 3 boss extremely stress-free.
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>>737576056
>Can't see your deck
>>737574371
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This thing is a fucking curse
Went from neow to the end of act 2 without getting a chance to play it once
Quite the funny coincidence that they nerf out of combats energy gains and suddenly most of the 3 cost powers turn into shit
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>>737576049
>Does Toxic Egg upgrade the apparitions?
Toxic Add upgrades skills that are added to deck so it should upgrade Apparitions
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>>737570454
bro, where's your xecnar guide?
(Pillar of Creation and Child of Star)
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hostan beta
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242918778800/76561198313476004
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>>737576074
Yeah, tough choice. I'd say go with Apparition still so you don't end up gutting your Shrugs and Pommel Strike. The pocket watch is already an amazing amount of draw.
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>start with bomb as silent
>try to make a meme deck for fun in a10 bomb only
>act 2
>cricketnigger
>dont draw my bomb in the first 12 cards of the deck
>he steals it immediately
Do i uninstall and leave a negative review? Im really close to it no joke. It feels like i cant have fun in this game anymore
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>>737576675
3/4
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yknow fiddle actually might not be that bad if you're trying to skip to your powers as fast as possible as long as you don't need card draw in your second cycle to do your damage or line up combos.
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>>737576704
first down
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>>737577526
>found a Centennial Puzzle too
Very nice. Now rape that Doornigger.
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>>737576787
The thing about putting all of your eggs into one basket is that if you have an accident and that basket falls then your lose all your eggs.
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>>737576787
play a0 little boy
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>>737577643
doornigger managed to hit me once for 30(all other turns 0 damage) because I didn't drew any apparition or block one one turn
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Self damage with Apparition+ is such a great combo. Might be that Apparition+ is broken card too
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gg
have to confess... i like colorless cards so much
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GG. First time doing Ethereal build. Not sure how to do this outside Multiplayer though, seems like a ton of support cards.
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Clone offered. Finesse worth cloning?
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Freakin' Diadem, man
Such an OP relic. I had literally zero damage
Killed the queen by ignoring the minion
Killed the dog on his intangible turn kek
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>>737578096
you do have a mercury hourglass so your only softlock is an enemy scaling above 1000
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>>737570454
Baalor is great
Never watched frost
Had to stop watching jorbs because I couldn’t stand that cunt.
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>>737572261
GG
>Lethality+ x2
>Tracking
>Unleash with the Corrupted enchantment
>Debilitate + vuln
>Reaper Form for good measure
Stacking damage multipliers is fun
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>>737575318
Yes, it does.

>>737576049
Yes, it does.

>>737575853
Apparitions are really strong, especially upgraded ones. Even better if you have retain.
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>>737578096
Yep. Get letter opener or speedster or serpent form and it’s a free win.
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>>737578197
>Such an OP relic. I had literally zero damage
Diadem + Unmovable turns 1 basic defend into 20 block card.
Ironclad can't block but when he starts to block he takes zero damage
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>Pick Ironclad
>See Underdocks
>Abandon run
what a piece of shit act
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>be necro
>see underdocks
>danse (macabre)
what a free as fuck act
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>>737578096
Not really since it costs you rest sites to do it and the payoff is pretty small.
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>>737576675
thank you for carry my ass
gg
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gg
wish I was recording there was one turn where something in a Decisions, Decisions Catastrophe did 999 damage
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GG I spent half of that run getting set-up cards while waiting for a pay-off and then game threw a curve ball and just threw me Eradicate.
Aslo, do NOT double your deck after picking Preserved Fog.
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>>737570152
Intense rebalancing.
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>>737580813
>Aslo, do NOT double your deck after picking Preserved Fog.
you should try picking preserved fog and doubling your deck after picking bing-bong
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>sly deck
>doornigger just rapes my ass
:V
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Sex with Nonupeipe.
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>>737582092
No anon you don't understand, you were meant to build sly WITHOUT draw effects.
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>>737582092
>>737582195
>plays most overpowered build in the game
>cant prepare for one fight
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every single time i play clad i feel so energy starved
how the fuck do you play this character
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>>737582337
Don't pick Demon Form.
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>>737582092
>statistically the highest winrate boss
>completely rapes sly and ethereal
which means he's piss-easy vs most decks and obliterates others. which is more or less my experience with him.
I'm going to assume the people itt begging megacrit not to change him are just shitters who want to keep their free 22 damage turn 4 boss even if he's bad for the game.
such as >>737582316
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>>737582337
bloodletting is a fucking common bro
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>>737582380
...the fact that he obliterates certain decks is why hes good for the game
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>>737582380
you are just making up stuff, i didnt say anything regarding the future balance changes
but seeing as the door is in the game it just makes sense to prepare for it, what can you do other than cry about it in message boards until patch x arrives?
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>>737582360
Demon Form is my favorite card in both games. I mean, 3 Strength? Every turn?! How can I say no?
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>>737582445
This except the complete fucking opposite. You're telling people to never build sly because Doormaker exists. You're telling people never to build status because Doormaker exists.
>uhhh just build sly without [cards that enable sly]
Yeah okay RETARD.
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Even nerfed, Dirge is really strong.
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onepunman said that the "playstyles" that people are complaining about door invalidating are the playstyles of building bad decks
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>>737582445
nice motte, bro. just gonna go ahead and point out the bailey's unprotected for a second - You can't consistently "just shift decks in a3 dog" as you or some other anon likes to shitpost here. if 70% of your cards become curses as soon as you see him you're either cooked or need god rng. you couldn't play attack rush clad if you checked a magic box that replaced all your good cards with Beckons, and you can't play souls necro if you're getting hit for 30 every turn with a bunch of unplayable soul shit.
And no, it's not good that I don't even want to try building a soul spam necro because it's 2/3 that I either die on doormaker or take 60 damage to him and walk into the next boss with no potions and 10 hp.

>>737582530
granted, sure. i also play to win.
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>>737583032
care to add your own opinion to go with that or are you too far gone to have those?
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>>737583032
>UHHHH THIS SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER SAID THING!!!
Shut up. His first phase invalidates anything you want to play more than once per combat, his second invalidates the word "draw", and his third invalidates cards that cost energy. His effects are just too fucking broad.
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hurting the feelings of china with a single screenshot
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For me, its Stoke+. The ultimate turn your brain off wincon
>oh no your deck is filled with Wounds and Burns
Stoke it away
>oh no your first 3 cards drawn are locked
Stoke it away
>oh no you cant draw this turn
Stoke new cards
>oh no your energy gets siphoned
Dont care, stoke it
>oh no every card you play gets exhausted
Hold out on playing Stoke
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>>737583305
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>>737583032
never said that.

doormaker is shit.
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>>737583312
>For me, its Stoke+. The ultimate turn your brain off wincon
*enters the room*
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>make door’s initial phase take half damage instead of none, and keep the same HP pool
>make it a recurring phase in his pattern
>take half damage > exhaust > can’t draw > steal energy > take half damage

Would this make everybody happy?
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>debuffs last past turn one
>no draw gets changed to no draw from cards
>energy drain starts with the second card played
thoughtz?
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>He picks cards
LMAO at you all, ngmi.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=96tgZustO4M&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1VUw%3D%3D
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>>737583415
>Make his door phase take you to a different Doormaker phase based on the HP you leave it at
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>>737583389
That is just a straight up infinite factory
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>>737583474
we are reaching critical levels of autism do it devs
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>>737583512
Black Hole and Particle Wall made me leak precum this way.
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>>737583389
>get this
>double the first card you play every combat
>2 stars per card
>particle wall is infinite block
>black hole makes it infinite damage, too

I’m shitting, pissing, and cumming myself.
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>The Sealed Throne: Innate Genesis+++ that costs 1 energy. Amazing if the deck can use the insane star generation immediately (Particle Wall, Stardust). As a speculative pick, it’s almost the same as Genesis except a lot more consistent in the first deck cycle. The opportunity cost is very big though, so while this is still a good Ancient card, it’s not as good as you might think
>while this is still a good Ancient card, it’s not as good as you might think

Oops I forgot Xecnar was retarded.
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>>737583692
hmm i think i will trust xecnar over random schizo 4chan anon
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>>737583474
this but it changes randomly every time you hit him purely because the idea of bringing back writhing mass but even more cancer is funny to me
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friends to ascend the spire together??
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>>737583868
Difference being that more block was always good against writing mass while you're basically just suggesting you get random Doormaker phases which leads us straight back to square one.
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>>737583913
koko ka
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242929339558/76561198313476004
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Gentlemen, how do we solve this problem
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Thank you, Iron Chad, your cards carried me. My struggles on the 4th ascension are over. Now my struggles on the 5th ascension can begin.
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Anyone got any experience with Neow's Fury after the buff? No way it isn't busted in the right deck.
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My proposed change to door maker is to change phase 3:

Attacks for 26
Doormaker copies every 2nd card you play.
Buffs str by 2
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>>737584918
>My proposed change to door maker is to change phase 3:
Remove the energy gimmick and just make him hit harder. LET ME PLAY MY FUCKING CARDS
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>>737584217
Why is corruption ancient only? Even in the right build it's not a autowin like throne nor does it compete with cognition and supress in hallway fight value. It even has anti synergy with stoke. Speaking of stoke it should've been an attack.
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>>737584979
we have enough dps races in the game
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>>737585030
Exhaust decks had 1% higher winrate in sts than anticipated so all exhaust pieces had to be either removed, increased in rarity or made into ancient rewards
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brightest flame when im already at 51 max hp sounds kinda bad no? imagine biting scrolls
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>use hellraiser on crab boss
>auto strikes make me face left instead of killing rocket and i die
why do i pick this garbage
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>>737585250
the only HP that truly matters is the last 1
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>>737576124
only good if you get the auto-play a powert card relic
I did get a deck with it + bullet time and that was good too
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>>737584539
I actually took fury on my very first run and was quickly disappointed that you don’t get to choose the cards. (Yes, I should’ve read it more carefully.)
But this is a nice change. It’s like 2 grave blasts in one, and that can give you some sweet turns. Give you back your energy generation and a big, strong card.
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>>737585059
Doormaker is a DPS race. He's just a DPS race that doesn't let you play your cards.
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god damn tezcatara could you at least have given me big hug or something? whats with the trio of dogshit. no i don't want my strikes to be eternal nor do i want energy only for act 3.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242931035409/76561197997192985

Come play, but if you take any damage you are dead to me
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Someone host
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>>737585480
>nor do i want energy only for act 3.
yea who would want something that allows aggressive pathing and faster scaling
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>>737570152
Soon~
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>>737585590
Perfect fit
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>>737585480
1 energy makes act 2 significantly easier considering you can run into
>mytes
>double chompers
>Hunter killer
>4oach squad
>slumber party
>Pillbug

and each of those normal hallways like to tax you for 15+ if they can. Gets you through those bad rooms much easier
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>>737585531
join and get 100 bucks for every 5 damage taken
3/4
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>>737585730
And in act 3 you’re left with what exactly? You’re facing Test bastard and Doornigger
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>>737585818
It doesn't help you act 3. All her options are terrible short term gains if you don't get brightest flame, upgrade, or cocoa. It just stops act 2 from raping you with decimillipedes and thorn toads
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>>737585818
You're left with all the rewards from the aggressive pathing you took.
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And the winner of the 2026 "does nothing your entire run" competition is...
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>>737585954
So you will kill one extra elite for +6 max hp or strike dummy, that will surely equal in power of ancient relic
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>>737585572
>>737585730
i took the energy to try to farm act 2 because i was sorely lacking block cards but died anyways because the game didn't give me a single defy, delay, deaths door, grave warden, OR melancholy. literally NOTHING besides bone shards, shroud, danse, and a singular pull aggro then forced me into advanced hallways or elite.
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>>737570152
Got replaced by Necrobinder
>>737574939
Upgrade it then
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>>737585997
works with high draw+0 cost osty attack spam, but basically nothing else
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>obvious why i lost and how little it was due to skill
>go next
>neow: raise max hp by 11, add a whole card to your deck no removes or transforms, or fucking scroll boxes
i hate my fucking seeds man they all fucking SUCK
can't wait to pick random card, get graveblast, and fuckin gDIE
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>>737586396
>check map
>almost every single path is 3 forced advanced hallways or elite with two advanced hallways
>one viable path is early shop after only two floors while im still poor and into elite+advanced hallways
JUST FUCKING KILL ME
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>>737585997
This card is great
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>bugged reave as card
uninstalling
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no comment
this is my final post its inevitable what happens after this point
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>>737574096
New doormaker is unironically easier than the old one. Also going full block and generating card spam is broken on Regent.
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>>737585997
I had a crazy clone fetch run and a royal sealed sic em gave me infinite osty HP, which was crucial against certain enemies.
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GGs
Regent carrying hard
I did literally nothing as Defect holy shit
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>get Sealed Throne
>win
errytime

GG
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Friends to ascend the spire together?
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>>737584026
GG
I (necro) just stacked debuffs and waited for someone else to find damage, and i was not disappointed.
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GG
I won't pretend the Regent carry wasn't cool, but I did not enjoy being objectified and only used for my buffs.
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>>737586904
skill issue
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Ye cunt here's your blood wall and shrug it off
Fuck do you mean you'd like more options? Be thankful you’re getting anything at all fuck you go one shot everything on turn 1
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>>737588762
true grit slander
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>>737589336
>un-Upgraded true grit
Just give me a curse and let me go on my way
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>first time in 90 hours I get offered Clone
>nothing suitable to clone
it hurts...
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You should be allowed to carry the Lantern Key into Door and then play it on him to close him off and instantly win the fight.
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>>737584217
Corruption and Biased absolutely did not deserve this.
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>>737589754
You should be able to do infinity damage and destroy the door before he opens it. Or the elephant before it explodes.
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>>737589754
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>>737585531
thank you so damn much everyone for the carry
regards - the bad regent
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I've got this burning like my veins are filled with nothing but gasoline
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>>737590504
>>737590515
i mend... i mean i kneel...
gg
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>>737584217
Sending them feedback until they swap Corruption with Limit Break
It just makes no sense
>Silent
Has dex power, Ancient grants defense and interacts with Dex
>Defect
Has focus power, Ancient grants focus
>Ironclad
Has Strength power, Ancient...makes skills exhaust and reduces their cost to 0
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>>737590756
corruption as ancient would make sense if ironclad still had dead branch
but yea limit break would be a decent option too
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>>737590756
taking away limit break is kind of weird, isn't it?
Other characters get cards where you just win if you play them 5 times (hang, voltaic) and unlike those this requires you play cards before and after it, so it's not conceptually invalid.
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Most fun run in a while.
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>>737570152
Act IV Elite
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do not show china this, do not show that you can win with picking booming conch and nutritious soup, do not tell china that soup is............ good
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>>737591545
act iv in general will be pretty exciting, will be hard to top current door
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Make a new shop node
You can buy enchants for your cards
Make it cost like 250 per
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>>737591246
I feel like limit break would be much stronger in sts2 than sts1 though.
there's more number of way to gain strength and much more way to fetch/dig your pile.

like, if you play dominate for 6 strength, you only need x2 litmit break to make it 24, which is enough to end any fight.
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>>737591729
>only need 2 rares and a dominate lined up to approach other characters damage potential
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goddamn
I need to play Tomodachi Life, NOW
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>>737584217
Corruption, wraithform and biased should be rares, corruption needs dark embrace to be strong and that's now a rare, biased would be really strong given how many orbs you can spam but at least there is no artifact. Wraithform has always been mediocre on 3 energy
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>>737591910
>Wraithform has always been mediocre on 3 energy
delusional
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>>737568904
I am 1 Win 7 Losses with Necrobinder. What tips do you got for me? I beat the heart with every character in STS 1 (but never played the Watcher)
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>>737591910
>corruption needs dark embrace to be strong
>Wraithform has always been mediocre on 3 energy
lol, lmao
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>>737591984
Uh? You basically waste 1 charge to play it so you really only have 2 turns to end the fight
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>>737592173
it can end up a dead draw in some fights where you know its not enough to end it but it really was one of the key puzzle pieces for a20 silent
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>>737571228
Not a fan of streamers but this is literally the only watchable one. Pretty funny guy and isn't overly bitchy like the other top players who don't have any streak record to back them up either. I was very surprising to learn he has a girlfriend, his fagcent speech mannerisms (tbf nost likely exaggerated for streaming entertainment) made me think otherwise.

Not sure why most of the Spire streamers have the same way of speaking though. They keep spamming the same phrases, though this guy is the only one that manages to make it work.
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Has anyone seen the Mushroom event anywhere except the last possible ? room? I dont think i've ever seen it anywhere else.
Also Sneko eye Instinct Pen Nib Bury is quite funny
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>>737570152
She's raising my children
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>>737592370
hes not a fag hes australian
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>>737592330
Not really. Multiple feets, paper crane, malaise and wail are all better outside the hallways fights
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>>737592370
Opem is fine. I don't know why some people say Baalord is too sanitized. He seems to be the only one whose vocabulary isn't infected by "giga", "holy", "of the gods", "fwiends", and the likes. I don't think Jorbs is either but that man is beyond insufferable and can't stop bringing politics into his streams.
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half the catch phrases were coined by lifecoach cause hes a sick nasty beast while jorbs is a timid raped bitch
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>>737592547
and how does wraith form prevent you from playing those?
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>>737591638
Soup's actually pretty neat now that it also has inbuilt Strike Dummy
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>>737592752
apparently jorbs is STILL mad about and brings up the time lifecoach's fans put 69 poop emojis on one of his tier lists
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>>737588075
I still haven't seen this god damn card.
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>>737592792
It's redundant
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they seriously need to rework the experiment boss for multiplayer, phase 1 is just guaranteed 60 damage because you can't play any block cards or it scaled 100 strength in 2 turns
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>>737593306
just do your share of the damage lil pup
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friends... multiplayer... please...
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>triggered by people saying holy
jesus christ the state of some of you people
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>>737593726
i believe you mean
fwiends... multiplayer of the gods... gigaplease...
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>>737593306
Just block the first 2 attacks and kill him turn 3
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Am I just wasting my time killing these? Or should I kill like, 10 of them or something?
Kind of a shame that there is no suspend function of any kind.
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h-hi. hello. hello there.
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join game
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242940316887/76561199486452220
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NERF THE BEE FUCKER

SHIT IS IMPOSSIBLE
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>>737593306
how u losing 4 man multiplayer bro
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>>737575318
Jesus, he looks horrifying now.
What happened to that loafing bum dude from a few days ago..
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>>737595071
>t. Shiv shitter
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242943249336/76561198230044444
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>>737597286
2/4
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>>737597286
3/4
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do you need a rehost?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242944754623/76561197997192985

manifesting bird cards and bird enemies
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>>737598503
yeah
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>>737598518
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242944811367/76561198230044444
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I think Dwarvin' Marvin is kill
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>>737598590
give him 5 min or host a new one?
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>>737598590
computer shat itself
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>>737598515
2/4

I'll take this time to say that I do not care for innate cards, they clog up your first hand
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The same game I always play
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i keep missing the lobbies
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apply vulnerable
life good
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Bit insensitive to make the boss ukrainian no?
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>>737600837
>>737600909
You fucked up Vlad
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gg anyhow, we lost but we lost with aura
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>>737598545
there was an attempt, i didn't get any particle walls or bulwark at all.
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>>737601190
Just a burger yuropoor <3
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>>737601254
ill take it as a lesson on taking early retract
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242948110169/76561197997192985

sometimes you have ggs and sometimes you have bgs
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Finally won a10 with many attacks Osty build. Of course I had to get Squeeze and Lethality.
Also got Bread to work, thankfully got Lantern so it wasnt that bad.
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>Necro run is complete ass going into Act 3
>Diamond Diadem
>followed by Clamp
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One step closer to a10 after weeks of neglecting my solo climb in favour of joining multiplayer lobbies, where I've technically got several a10 wins already
Somehow, I only just realized during this run that Signal Boost isn't merely a renamed Amplify and doesn't wear off at the end of your turn
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>>737571271
I beat that cunt for the first time today. Had the option to duplicate my 30 card deck. Any other boss I wouldn't have.
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Is there a lobby going on right now? Do we need one up?
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>>737569396
Loli everything tbdesu
>>
>Really itching to play a specific archetype
>Scared of playing and getting perfect RNG for an archetype I don't feel like playing right now
reeee
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>>737603224
FUCK IT HOSTING
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242951566124/76561198043831607
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I'm orbmaxxing on Defect
Genuinely not sure what to go for here, what's the most potentially broken?
Early in Act 2 so my deck has room to swerve
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>>737603838
3/4 lets go

>>737603908
Go Silent or Ironclad. Necrobinder if you really wanna try your luck
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>>737603950
Guess you can't go wrong with Ironclad
Really tempted to take the rocks
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>>737603908
No Regent is a shame but generally Silent or Ironclad tend to be generically applicable enough for all characters.
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rocket pawnch
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>>737604282
Unfortunately knowledge demon gaped me cause my frost was all at the bottom of my deck
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>>737601524
ggs, thanks for carrying me in act1, i had 0 star generation at all with a deck full of star usage.
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>>737568904
OUR HEROES!!!.. and The Silent I guess...
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>>737604897
...and the Ironclad, the Defect, the Necrobinder and a bunch of minions
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you fucking double nigger
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>>737606023
Pay the toll Trade away tent for white star is the easy choice depending on where you are on the map
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>>737606073
took the juzu
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>>737606473
Based
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GG silent duo, it was fun hitting THIRTY TWO (32) FOCUS in one turn
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ggs, I feel like I was just a support blockslut...
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>>737603838
>>737603950
>>737606667
Probably one of the most awful poison decks ever made
Carried by block silent desu
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Why are the chinks mad? Did gacha games completely fried their brains and got them used to just stat checking everything?
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>>737606694
To be fair, you did a lot of help with Beacon of Hope+ that run. I noticed it gave me and the other Silent just enough block to full block shit that came our way like Soul Nexus or Mecha Faggot

>>737606701
I'm just glad my orb run worked out and game gave me Capacitor right at the end. Would have been better if I didn't burn all the powers in one go and waited to draw them on other turns to Echo Form them for max value. Also yeah Poison fucking sucks in multiplayer unless you're abusing Envenom via shivs or Corrosive Wave via draw engine. Without Catalyst there's no real way for regular poison cards to make the BIG NUMBERS needed for multiplayer. In singleplayer they're perfectly fine, but...
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>>737606746
They are bad at the game and have convinced themselves the crutch they rely on to beat the game is the only way to beat the game and are mad at Anthony for nerfing their crutch
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>>737606886
There's something really wrong with the ego of chinese people
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>>737587082
>broken
>32/75

Pick one.
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>>737606746
They aren't happy with the game thus have left bad reviews, and entitled westerners can't understand that reviews are literally a feedback channel.
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>>737568904
Anyone hosting?
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>>737607198
sure
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242957177069/76561198046595191
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>>737607285
3/4
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>>737607174
Reviews are meant for other potential buyers, not devs. The ingame feedback function is the intended way of informing devs.
>The feelings of the chinese people were offended by changes to the game, so we will blackmail the devs through review bombing. Oh but the Westerners are entitled, not us.
Do you even know what the words you speak mean, or do you just parrot things you've heard?
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>>737607438
>Reviews are meant for other potential buyers, not devs
What an insane comment. Do you think devs don't care what reviews are telling potential buyers to think about the game?
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>>737607578
Those statements aren't mutually exclusive moron. Obviously devs do care what they say, which is why chinese review bombing exists. That doesn't mean reviews aren't intended primarily for consumers.
Reviews are not the place for nitpicking minor changes. Blackmailing devs by hurting sales over minor changes is an entitled act by chinks.
>>
rehost
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242958055186/76561198046595191
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>>737607791
It's a perfectly reasonable response to being unhappy with a product you paid for.
>>
again
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242958130458/76561198046595191

not sure what's going on
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>>737607852
I agree, leaving a negative review is a reasonable response for poor product.

Going on a coordinated attack for any change that makes a game slightly harder, is an insane response. The very definition of entitlement. The Chinese are not responding reasonably. They are trying to blackmail the developers into making a game easier, despite it being a sequel to a game known for not being difficult.
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>>737608027
>known for not being difficult
*Known for being difficult
I'm sure you understood what I intended
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>>737608027
>heh, a20 was baby shit
This is why I can't take any of your opinions seriously. I'd rather side with the Chinese than you; at least they're being honest.
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>>737608104
>I'm sure you understood what I intended
My man if you'd actually read these threads it's nothing but grognards calling you bad if you aren't playing A10 with a 100% win rate.
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Am I the only one who feels that the game becomes less fun after A1?

You get less card upgrades, less gold, less potion slots, etc

I love it when harder difficulties elevate the gameplay and allows for more variety, but in StS it feels like you just get gimped and weaker
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>>737608147
Not true in the slightest. If you actually read these threads, they're filled with retards who have yet to reach a10. The people at a10 aren't claiming 100% win rate, at most they claim silent is easy.

I've seen exactly one screenshot here of someone at 100% win rate, and they had just enough wins to reach a10 on each character. Obviously a second profile that was reset whenever they fucked up.
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the fucking knowledge demon inflicted me with the curse of blindness
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>>737608497
waddafug

steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242959331461/76561198046595191
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>>737608524
These lobbies fill up so fast
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>>737608557
it's a running game, someone's having issues
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>>737608247
Enemies/Bosses are overtuned at A10 and there is balance work to be done.

>Relics and Card drop rarity needs to be adjusted/buffed overall
>Some metas need buffs (Forge/Osty/etc)
>Some Enemies/Bosses need to be toned down a bit (Less debuff/scaling)

Most Hallways enemies past act 2 are tricky and hard to deal with and, unless you high roll, you are one bad draw away from taking -20hp to the face if not more.
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>>737608027
Why aren't they so vocal when it comes to their government though?
>>737608524
Haven't joined, but if you make a lobby warn what the difficulty will be like, I dont' want to shit up an A10 when I still have troubles at A3.
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>>737608524
gg
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Why did they give the Regent Drums of Battle but good as a rare card?
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>>737608524
GGs very funny run lads. Triple Ironclad off random, with a dominate offered to me as the first card reward, meant I could scale off the vuln to the moon. Bully with Instinct is perfection.

>>737608941
Yeah I guess that's a fair sentiment, but I will say 4 people multiplayer is much easier than solo. (Also the multiplayer ascensions are unlocked separately from solo.)
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>have a really shitty deck
>but have the “gain gold when you add a card” + “gain max hp when you gain gold” combo
>duplicate deck

Pffthahaha. I facetanked so hard while double demon form gave me absurd strength. Win felt totally undeserved and I love it.
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>>737608941
Multiplayer ascensions are tracked separately and it's always set to the lowest max ascension in the group
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One day they will make juggernaut a playable card
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I messed up
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242963560706/76561198043812246
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>>737611151
3/4 starting in like 3 minutes
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>>737611379
Luv me som rocks
Simple as
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>>737611379
I thought it was a snail until just now.
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>>737573383
I like it
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>>737611578
I hate how it’s rare because it’s only strong in act 1 and mediocre after that
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>>737608247
Game needs to be harder so your choices matter instead of being able to bruteforce the game
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I hit the funny meme deck bros
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Shining Strike is so good. This is the first run I've seen it.
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>>737611151
ggs, first time trying the defect status build and it slaps.
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>>737612631
Next time upgrade before you start cloning.
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>>737611379
>Fetishistic card
>It's a picture of a rock crushing an animal
Why are the chinese like this?
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How did I win in 2-player multiplayer with Ironclad on A10? It feels like My cards aren't good enough.
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always play for history course
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Do you think Coach will come back for 1.0?
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>>737613160
I'm still unsure how good it is.
If you keep playing it stops you from drawing more of your other cards. It's good early though, especially against Overgrowth elites.
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I’ve tested some stuff in custom run and picked juggling. That reminded me how much I hate that card
>oops, you only have 2 attacks in hand? No juggling
>oh, attacks you have cost enough energy to play but not the copy
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I'm having more trouble with bad draws on Regent than any other character. I don't like the rare delayed 2 draw. I need shit to happen this turn when every mob is attacking and scaling.
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>>737615343
Some people think Regent is stronger than Necro but I honestly think Necro still beats him atm since draw order almost always stays an issue on Regent which is mitigated when you're already generating immortal levels of Block.
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AAAA I want to reach A10 on all characters so I can go back to doing silly runs on Custom games.
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>>737570206
Challenge runs. Playing normal is too easy so he's doing "no skipping cards" or similar shit.
So this IS an ironic run.
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>>737574862
>Frost openly talks about getting pegged by his gf.
Read nigger
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>>737572807
Frost even castrated himself
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Two bosses I struggle the most with on Regent:
>crab
>lizard
Any tips?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242974170961/76561198043812246
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>>737613716
fucking retard
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Killed by a door again.
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>>737617285
3/4
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>>737617306
autism
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>>737617285
blackscreened?
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>>737617285
I black screened
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>>737617530
>>737617550
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242974825511/76561198043812246
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>>737617627
Wtf same characters and black screened again
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>>737617627
happened again
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>>737617672
>>737617675
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242974956146/76561198043812246
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They should add multiplayer only events
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>>737608247
No, you''re right. A1-A4 are perfectly fine. A5 introduces Ascender's Bane, which might as well read
>Increases the statistically likelihood of you getting fucked by RNG for no reason. Eternal.
It's not really interesting and it only interacts with exhaust in any meaningful way. And then A6-A10 is just you getting gimped in increasingly more substantial ways. I actually like the HP, damage, and double boss modifiers more than the shit like
>you see less good cards get fucked
>you can't remove cards get fucked

I went back to playing on lower ascensions because I felt like I was having less fun the less freedom I had
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>>737618457
> Ascender's Bane
More like gain 4 block, draw a card and increase Ashen Strike damage by 4
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I hate bing bong.
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How do you share lobbies?
Someone post that infograph with the anime girl telling me how to do it
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>>737618762
>that one guy who refuses to sacrifice like 5 HP to not get bing bong, gets bing bong, forgets he has bing bong, and immediately ruins his deck with double curses
>spends most of act 3 dying and we lose
this has happened more than once
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What a no brain run
>3 Perfect Strikes + Stampede act 1
>Girya and Vajra act 1
>Tri Boomerang act 3



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