will the spire die one day?
>>737563705ggcreative ai and a signal boosted echo form from a pot meant that the days of the door were numbered
>>737566353that i'd rather have literally any other aoe card so sow is by definition not a good card just because it has retain? retard
>You cannot change the past with anger.
>>737568904loli silent or meaty silent?
>>737569396ill take not feeling the need to jerk off to every game i play
>>737564145Mytes are obnoxious and require very specific cards that you are not always likely to have. Doom absolutely rapes them, but every other character has to deal with their obnoxious gimmick.
>>737569396Oppai loli Silent.
>>737569396Silent with cutest feet
>>737569637Honestly baffled they nerfed other fights and not that one. Toxic could be 4 damage and it would still be 23 damage which is a gigantic standard to beat on turn 2, like.Sentry Dogs, Mytes and Hunter Killer are all basically guaranteed health taxes.
>>737569396Silent as a battle autist who gets excited to see big monsters, but still shows stoicism 100% of the time.Aka, canon silent.
>>737568904What happened to her?
>pros are unironically playing 55 card decks (no duplication/clone)what's your excuse?
So let me get this straight, Rainbow Ring requires that in a single turn you play Attack, Skill and Power to get that strength and dex gain?
>>737570152executed for her crimes against spire
>>737569737Oppai loli Silent vs Kyojiri loli Regentwho wins?
>>737570206baalorlord, frostprime, and jorbs are in my holy trinity of sts2 content. love those guys
>>737570454>frostprime, and jorbstotal faggots
its so funny how bitchy streamers are on every single bad drawyou'd think they'd start to get used to the fact that a lot of the time they aren't gonna perfectly block every act 1 easy pool and they might take 10 or even 20 after the easy pools but every single time they have a sub optimal draw they bitch and moan and start looking back and forth between their draw and discard pile like they are in disbelief
>>737570393I dislike what they are doing with the Regent, they are too cowardly to make them a weird alien monstergirl and just made them a boring anime girl. 0/10 would not fuck or make oppai.
>>737569972Yeah I dislike all the 'HP tax' rooms. I also think that the books reducing your max HP Is one of the worst gimmicks they have come up with, since that's basically 'oh you didn't draw 30 block? Lose max hp.'
My winrate has gone up significantly after I realized you basically should never take hallway fights so you can stay in the easy pool for as long as possible
>>737570454Baalaris the prime for me, never really watched frost much, Jorbs is okay.Nave Greed is a bit of an awkward autist but he's fine as background. Japanese Export is dogshit and his evaluation of cars befuddle me still.
>>737570319Yeah, it's pretty good on Ironclad and Regent especially since they have so many multihit attacks.>>737570735Same, but my reasoning is that I think the ? rooms are more fun than fights usually.
>>737570558the only watchable spire streamer is a google doc merchant now
>>737570625they need to make something that appeals to the lowest common denominator to get the most twitter likes and at that point it doesn't matter to actually make something relevant to the game itself either
>>737570810>? rooms are more fun than fights usually.The fight rooms are just fights, the ? rooms could be anythingCould even be a fight!
>>737570895I agree, it's a boring Vtumor-tier design.
>>737570735I had a run where I got Paels sacrifice that I struggled and lost, but decided to replay and instead chase elites with a different relic. I lost more hp to the 2 chompers chasing hallway fights than I did on all elites put together between both runs.
>>737570846i find onepunman/opem pretty watchable. i watch japaneseexport and navegreed but jpexport is peak smug and nave is queen bitch
>>737570810alright, let's see if it pays off, was almost ready to call it quits, since I unlocked the relic that damages enemies when you exhaust...but I dunno, exhausting a card every turn, would I really benefit from it?I am tempted to get it for shit and giggles but I don't know where to go from there.
>>737570735yeah, keep cruising through events unless you really need the card rewards.
>make it to doorfag>run out of cards because i either play my ethereal cards and exhaust them or save them and they exhaustvery good design. i LOVE that he even survived at 3 hp LOVE IT after dealing with the experinigger
>>737570454>frostprimeToo much whacky zoomy shit for meBaal is goatedJorbs is a pretentious fuck
>>737571250One copy of drum is ok for normal fightsJust don't play it early vs bosses
>>737571251>3 events in a row>great I will avoid so many fights!>2 of them are fights
>>737570152Don't worry they will add this unfun trash character back later
>run out of cards because i either play my ethereal cards and exhaust them or save them and they exhaust
>>737571631the country of china would like a word with you
no block in the first 3 card rewards as ironclad and then rolling skulking colony on the forced elite feels like the game just telling me to kill myself
>>737571271>falling for the exhaust memeListen, Exhaust is for Fancy Boys that Know how to count, me personally, I'm a simple Man, I take Strongth, I take Blonks
>>737569396Gymnast body.
>>737570454Frost is like 2 years away from transitioning.
>>737571941Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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>Barricade + Pael Legion + Unmovable + Prolong.>Even got History Course to replay it next turn.Shame Barricade isn't worth it most of the time.
>>737571250That card can be pretty dangerous, I find. they buffed it on the beta branch though.I wouldn't get it since it's basically a worse Battle Trance in every way.
>>737570493>two men in a relationship with women are fagsinteresting take
>>737571250I would literally never take that card. Absolute dogshit that doesn't even have the benefit of playing it like havoc
>>737572496its possible to have a girlfriend and be gay dont ask me how i found out
>>737572496frostprime wears a dress, nail polish and is in an open relationship with his wife. jorbs is a huge narcissist who talks as if he's gods gift to earth. they're faggots.
>>737570454Frost is kinda cute, but I can't stand his content half the time.
>>737572496Jorbs probably isn't, he is just autistic. Frost openly talks about getting pegged by his gf.It might take a few years for him to come out of the closet, but he likes dicks in his ass.
Dare I say, KINO ?
frostprime isn't trans pretty sure hes just a furry probably liked to self insert as a furry femboy and has bisexual tendencies all of which is kinda based and unironically way different from mentally ill twitter tranny nonsense
>>737573112>furry>femboy>bisexualNot based
I'll get used to it eventually but the name "Skulking Colony" and the unanimated pose the guy had before where it simply standing there staring at you gave off the impression of a slow, quiet and sinister kind of natural evil. The bending Jojo-like pose and flailing attacks is the complete opposite direction I was expecting.
>>737571250I love that version of Drums. A draw 2 for 0 energy is good in shorter fights. It combos nice with evil eye and forgotten ritual. I do think it’s kinda a meme but it’s fun
what a dogshit selection>but rocks are goodI already have one
I like Marlowe Dobbe's art direction for 2 more than what they had for 1
>>737573383>the unanimated pose the guy had before where it simply standing there staring at you gave off the impression of a slow, quiet and sinister kind of natural evilyou know what... this is 100% accurate
>>737573674TURN ROCKS INTO ROCKS
>>737573383Yeah I like the old pose better. His fight is an immoveable wall you need to chip down over time and the old pose reflected that better. You put it pretty nicely; his stillness is kinda creepy and works well for his unique enemy gimmick.
haven't played in a while, came back and eventually got this regent run. Forge still seems slow and punishing. Stars are still difficult to manage, you pretty much need to somehow order your cards so you don't get your spenders before you generators, or you can get fucked by RNG. In my case i had Shining Strike, 3 Cosmic Indifferences, and also Tyranny+ helped. Relics that were broken (as always):Chosen Cheese, Sturdy Clamp, Lantern + Pael's Tears.The new doormaker boss seems like the hardest, not sure how anybody dies to the other bosses...So overall not much different than before the patch.
>>737573674Without knowing the context of your deck, I'm probably considering Mangle the most. It can often full block a turn so you dont even care about the 3 energy cost.
>>737573594Eh, I transformed it. I am playing with the expectation I wont make it, I passed the first boss just because I had the lizard tail.>>737573674What is wrong with Barricade?
>>737573674ROK! GSHH GSHH GSHH GSHH
>>737570735I like aiming to hit all of my easy pools as well as a shop or fire to see as many easy card rewards as possible before my first elite. Even better if the path gives me an option to opt out of the elite if I don't get decent damage.
>>737574109
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Fun tierlistRegent > Necro > Silent > Iron > Defect
>>737570454I like frost's content the most out of them because he doesn't take himself too seriously. But he's also decently popular on twitch, so it can feel like zoomer daycare sometimes.
>>737574582Blacks account for 10% of the American population but commit 50% of the crime.
>>737572807I'll admit I didn't know that. I am both baffled and disgusted. How do you know this, man?
>>737574119>What is wrong with Barricade?it costs 3 energy
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BLOCK WITH REGENT? HOOOOOOOOOOOOOW BRO? EVERY FUCKING CARD GIVES SUB 10 BLOCK WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BLOCK WITH YOU FUCKING BOZOS. ITS LITERALLY ONE FUCKING POWER FOR STARS SPENT AND I CANT FUCKING FIND IT EVER FUCK YOU SHITTY ASS COMPANY
>>737574582You can tell how much more multiplayer I play, lol.
>>737575052Bruh
>>737573674does fiddle work with pocketwatch?
>>737575052Cloak of stars? Proxy? There's lots of block for him.
>>737575318I believe so. Someone claimed it worked great for them in a thread before.
>>737575728I don't know what will work better, Apparitions or fiddle
>>737575318It says "two additional cards" not "seven cards" so it just tacks them on to whatever your card draw is at the start of the turn.
>>737575052Reflect and Bulwark are the power cards, and Cosmic Indifference is good if you have one of those because it lets you play Reflect and Bulwark every turnYou need like one more idea on top of that for Act 3 but that core alone takes you through most of the game
>it's a bottom-decking corruption on the boss fight episode
>>737575052Glitterstream is a common, nigga
>>737575853Does Toxic Egg upgrade the apparitions? I know it does work that way in StS1. Might be worth if it does
>>737575853Can't see your deck so it's up to you. Draw is great but Apparation makes dealing with the Act 3 boss extremely stress-free.
>>737576056>Can't see your deck>>737574371
This thing is a fucking curseWent from neow to the end of act 2 without getting a chance to play it once Quite the funny coincidence that they nerf out of combats energy gains and suddenly most of the 3 cost powers turn into shit
>>737576049>Does Toxic Egg upgrade the apparitions?Toxic Add upgrades skills that are added to deck so it should upgrade Apparitions
>>737570454bro, where's your xecnar guide?(Pillar of Creation and Child of Star)
hostan betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242918778800/76561198313476004
>>737576074Yeah, tough choice. I'd say go with Apparition still so you don't end up gutting your Shrugs and Pommel Strike. The pocket watch is already an amazing amount of draw.
>start with bomb as silent>try to make a meme deck for fun in a10 bomb only>act 2>cricketnigger>dont draw my bomb in the first 12 cards of the deck>he steals it immediatelyDo i uninstall and leave a negative review? Im really close to it no joke. It feels like i cant have fun in this game anymore
>>7375766753/4
yknow fiddle actually might not be that bad if you're trying to skip to your powers as fast as possible as long as you don't need card draw in your second cycle to do your damage or line up combos.
>>737576704first down
>>737577526>found a Centennial Puzzle tooVery nice. Now rape that Doornigger.
>>737576787The thing about putting all of your eggs into one basket is that if you have an accident and that basket falls then your lose all your eggs.
>>737576787play a0 little boy
>>737577643doornigger managed to hit me once for 30(all other turns 0 damage) because I didn't drew any apparition or block one one turn
Self damage with Apparition+ is such a great combo. Might be that Apparition+ is broken card too
gghave to confess... i like colorless cards so much
GG. First time doing Ethereal build. Not sure how to do this outside Multiplayer though, seems like a ton of support cards.
Clone offered. Finesse worth cloning?
Freakin' Diadem, manSuch an OP relic. I had literally zero damageKilled the queen by ignoring the minionKilled the dog on his intangible turn kek
>>737578096you do have a mercury hourglass so your only softlock is an enemy scaling above 1000
>>737570454Baalor is greatNever watched frostHad to stop watching jorbs because I couldn’t stand that cunt.
>>737572261GG>Lethality+ x2>Tracking>Unleash with the Corrupted enchantment>Debilitate + vuln>Reaper Form for good measureStacking damage multipliers is fun
>>737575318Yes, it does. >>737576049Yes, it does. >>737575853Apparitions are really strong, especially upgraded ones. Even better if you have retain.
>>737578096Yep. Get letter opener or speedster or serpent form and it’s a free win.
>>737578197>Such an OP relic. I had literally zero damageDiadem + Unmovable turns 1 basic defend into 20 block card. Ironclad can't block but when he starts to block he takes zero damage
>Pick Ironclad>See Underdocks>Abandon runwhat a piece of shit act
>be necro>see underdocks>danse (macabre)what a free as fuck act
>>737578096Not really since it costs you rest sites to do it and the payoff is pretty small.
>>737576675thank you for carry my assgg
ggwish I was recording there was one turn where something in a Decisions, Decisions Catastrophe did 999 damage
GG I spent half of that run getting set-up cards while waiting for a pay-off and then game threw a curve ball and just threw me Eradicate. Aslo, do NOT double your deck after picking Preserved Fog.
>>737570152Intense rebalancing.
>>737580813>Aslo, do NOT double your deck after picking Preserved Fog.you should try picking preserved fog and doubling your deck after picking bing-bong
>sly deck>doornigger just rapes my ass:V
Sex with Nonupeipe.
>>737582092No anon you don't understand, you were meant to build sly WITHOUT draw effects.
>>737582092>>737582195>plays most overpowered build in the game>cant prepare for one fight
every single time i play clad i feel so energy starvedhow the fuck do you play this character
>>737582337Don't pick Demon Form.
>>737582092>statistically the highest winrate boss>completely rapes sly and etherealwhich means he's piss-easy vs most decks and obliterates others. which is more or less my experience with him.I'm going to assume the people itt begging megacrit not to change him are just shitters who want to keep their free 22 damage turn 4 boss even if he's bad for the game. such as >>737582316
>>737582337bloodletting is a fucking common bro
>>737582380...the fact that he obliterates certain decks is why hes good for the game
>>737582380you are just making up stuff, i didnt say anything regarding the future balance changesbut seeing as the door is in the game it just makes sense to prepare for it, what can you do other than cry about it in message boards until patch x arrives?
>>737582360Demon Form is my favorite card in both games. I mean, 3 Strength? Every turn?! How can I say no?
>>737582445This except the complete fucking opposite. You're telling people to never build sly because Doormaker exists. You're telling people never to build status because Doormaker exists.>uhhh just build sly without [cards that enable sly]Yeah okay RETARD.
Even nerfed, Dirge is really strong.
onepunman said that the "playstyles" that people are complaining about door invalidating are the playstyles of building bad decks
>>737582445nice motte, bro. just gonna go ahead and point out the bailey's unprotected for a second - You can't consistently "just shift decks in a3 dog" as you or some other anon likes to shitpost here. if 70% of your cards become curses as soon as you see him you're either cooked or need god rng. you couldn't play attack rush clad if you checked a magic box that replaced all your good cards with Beckons, and you can't play souls necro if you're getting hit for 30 every turn with a bunch of unplayable soul shit.And no, it's not good that I don't even want to try building a soul spam necro because it's 2/3 that I either die on doormaker or take 60 damage to him and walk into the next boss with no potions and 10 hp.>>737582530granted, sure. i also play to win.
>>737583032care to add your own opinion to go with that or are you too far gone to have those?
>>737583032>UHHHH THIS SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER SAID THING!!!Shut up. His first phase invalidates anything you want to play more than once per combat, his second invalidates the word "draw", and his third invalidates cards that cost energy. His effects are just too fucking broad.
hurting the feelings of china with a single screenshot
For me, its Stoke+. The ultimate turn your brain off wincon>oh no your deck is filled with Wounds and BurnsStoke it away>oh no your first 3 cards drawn are lockedStoke it away>oh no you cant draw this turnStoke new cards>oh no your energy gets siphonedDont care, stoke it>oh no every card you play gets exhaustedHold out on playing Stoke
>>737583305
>>737583032never said that.doormaker is shit.
>>737583312>For me, its Stoke+. The ultimate turn your brain off wincon*enters the room*
>make door’s initial phase take half damage instead of none, and keep the same HP pool >make it a recurring phase in his pattern >take half damage > exhaust > can’t draw > steal energy > take half damage Would this make everybody happy?
>debuffs last past turn one>no draw gets changed to no draw from cards>energy drain starts with the second card playedthoughtz?
>He picks cardsLMAO at you all, ngmi.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=96tgZustO4M&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1VUw%3D%3D
>>737583415>Make his door phase take you to a different Doormaker phase based on the HP you leave it at
>>737583389That is just a straight up infinite factory
>>737583474we are reaching critical levels of autism do it devs
>>737583512Black Hole and Particle Wall made me leak precum this way.
>>737583389>get this >double the first card you play every combat >2 stars per card >particle wall is infinite block >black hole makes it infinite damage, tooI’m shitting, pissing, and cumming myself.
>The Sealed Throne: Innate Genesis+++ that costs 1 energy. Amazing if the deck can use the insane star generation immediately (Particle Wall, Stardust). As a speculative pick, it’s almost the same as Genesis except a lot more consistent in the first deck cycle. The opportunity cost is very big though, so while this is still a good Ancient card, it’s not as good as you might think>while this is still a good Ancient card, it’s not as good as you might thinkOops I forgot Xecnar was retarded.
>>737583692hmm i think i will trust xecnar over random schizo 4chan anon
>>737583474this but it changes randomly every time you hit him purely because the idea of bringing back writhing mass but even more cancer is funny to me
friends to ascend the spire together??
>>737583868Difference being that more block was always good against writing mass while you're basically just suggesting you get random Doormaker phases which leads us straight back to square one.
>>737583913koko kasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242929339558/76561198313476004
Gentlemen, how do we solve this problem
Thank you, Iron Chad, your cards carried me. My struggles on the 4th ascension are over. Now my struggles on the 5th ascension can begin.
Anyone got any experience with Neow's Fury after the buff? No way it isn't busted in the right deck.
My proposed change to door maker is to change phase 3:Attacks for 26Doormaker copies every 2nd card you play.Buffs str by 2
>>737584918>My proposed change to door maker is to change phase 3:Remove the energy gimmick and just make him hit harder. LET ME PLAY MY FUCKING CARDS
>>737584217Why is corruption ancient only? Even in the right build it's not a autowin like throne nor does it compete with cognition and supress in hallway fight value. It even has anti synergy with stoke. Speaking of stoke it should've been an attack.
>>737584979we have enough dps races in the game
>>737585030Exhaust decks had 1% higher winrate in sts than anticipated so all exhaust pieces had to be either removed, increased in rarity or made into ancient rewards
brightest flame when im already at 51 max hp sounds kinda bad no? imagine biting scrolls
>use hellraiser on crab boss>auto strikes make me face left instead of killing rocket and i diewhy do i pick this garbage
>>737585250the only HP that truly matters is the last 1
>>737576124only good if you get the auto-play a powert card relicI did get a deck with it + bullet time and that was good too
>>737584539I actually took fury on my very first run and was quickly disappointed that you don’t get to choose the cards. (Yes, I should’ve read it more carefully.)But this is a nice change. It’s like 2 grave blasts in one, and that can give you some sweet turns. Give you back your energy generation and a big, strong card.
>>737585059Doormaker is a DPS race. He's just a DPS race that doesn't let you play your cards.
god damn tezcatara could you at least have given me big hug or something? whats with the trio of dogshit. no i don't want my strikes to be eternal nor do i want energy only for act 3.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242931035409/76561197997192985Come play, but if you take any damage you are dead to me
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>>737585480>nor do i want energy only for act 3.yea who would want something that allows aggressive pathing and faster scaling
>>737570152Soon~
>>737585590Perfect fit
>>7375854801 energy makes act 2 significantly easier considering you can run into >mytes>double chompers>Hunter killer>4oach squad>slumber party >Pillbugand each of those normal hallways like to tax you for 15+ if they can. Gets you through those bad rooms much easier
>>737585531join and get 100 bucks for every 5 damage taken3/4
>>737585730And in act 3 you’re left with what exactly? You’re facing Test bastard and Doornigger
>>737585818It doesn't help you act 3. All her options are terrible short term gains if you don't get brightest flame, upgrade, or cocoa. It just stops act 2 from raping you with decimillipedes and thorn toads
>>737585818You're left with all the rewards from the aggressive pathing you took.
And the winner of the 2026 "does nothing your entire run" competition is...
>>737585954So you will kill one extra elite for +6 max hp or strike dummy, that will surely equal in power of ancient relic
>>737585572>>737585730i took the energy to try to farm act 2 because i was sorely lacking block cards but died anyways because the game didn't give me a single defy, delay, deaths door, grave warden, OR melancholy. literally NOTHING besides bone shards, shroud, danse, and a singular pull aggro then forced me into advanced hallways or elite.
>>737570152Got replaced by Necrobinder >>737574939Upgrade it then
>>737585997works with high draw+0 cost osty attack spam, but basically nothing else
>obvious why i lost and how little it was due to skill>go next>neow: raise max hp by 11, add a whole card to your deck no removes or transforms, or fucking scroll boxesi hate my fucking seeds man they all fucking SUCKcan't wait to pick random card, get graveblast, and fuckin gDIE
>>737586396>check map>almost every single path is 3 forced advanced hallways or elite with two advanced hallways>one viable path is early shop after only two floors while im still poor and into elite+advanced hallwaysJUST FUCKING KILL ME
>>737585997This card is great
>bugged reave as carduninstalling
no commentthis is my final post its inevitable what happens after this point
>>737574096New doormaker is unironically easier than the old one. Also going full block and generating card spam is broken on Regent.
>>737585997I had a crazy clone fetch run and a royal sealed sic em gave me infinite osty HP, which was crucial against certain enemies.
GGsRegent carrying hardI did literally nothing as Defect holy shit
>get Sealed Throne>winerrytimeGG
Friends to ascend the spire together?
>>737584026GGI (necro) just stacked debuffs and waited for someone else to find damage, and i was not disappointed.
GGI won't pretend the Regent carry wasn't cool, but I did not enjoy being objectified and only used for my buffs.
>>737586904skill issue
Ye cunt here's your blood wall and shrug it offFuck do you mean you'd like more options? Be thankful you’re getting anything at all fuck you go one shot everything on turn 1
>>737588762true grit slander
>>737589336>un-Upgraded true gritJust give me a curse and let me go on my way
>first time in 90 hours I get offered Clone>nothing suitable to cloneit hurts...
You should be allowed to carry the Lantern Key into Door and then play it on him to close him off and instantly win the fight.
>>737584217Corruption and Biased absolutely did not deserve this.
>>737589754You should be able to do infinity damage and destroy the door before he opens it. Or the elephant before it explodes.
>>737589754
>>737585531thank you so damn much everyone for the carryregards - the bad regent
I've got this burning like my veins are filled with nothing but gasoline
>>737590504>>737590515i mend... i mean i kneel... gg
>>737584217Sending them feedback until they swap Corruption with Limit BreakIt just makes no sense>SilentHas dex power, Ancient grants defense and interacts with Dex>DefectHas focus power, Ancient grants focus>IroncladHas Strength power, Ancient...makes skills exhaust and reduces their cost to 0
>>737590756corruption as ancient would make sense if ironclad still had dead branchbut yea limit break would be a decent option too
>>737590756taking away limit break is kind of weird, isn't it?Other characters get cards where you just win if you play them 5 times (hang, voltaic) and unlike those this requires you play cards before and after it, so it's not conceptually invalid.
Most fun run in a while.
>>737570152Act IV Elite
do not show china this, do not show that you can win with picking booming conch and nutritious soup, do not tell china that soup is............ good
>>737591545act iv in general will be pretty exciting, will be hard to top current door
Make a new shop nodeYou can buy enchants for your cardsMake it cost like 250 per
>>737591246I feel like limit break would be much stronger in sts2 than sts1 though.there's more number of way to gain strength and much more way to fetch/dig your pile.like, if you play dominate for 6 strength, you only need x2 litmit break to make it 24, which is enough to end any fight.
>>737591729>only need 2 rares and a dominate lined up to approach other characters damage potential
goddamnI need to play Tomodachi Life, NOW
>>737584217Corruption, wraithform and biased should be rares, corruption needs dark embrace to be strong and that's now a rare, biased would be really strong given how many orbs you can spam but at least there is no artifact. Wraithform has always been mediocre on 3 energy
>>737591910>Wraithform has always been mediocre on 3 energydelusional
>>737568904I am 1 Win 7 Losses with Necrobinder. What tips do you got for me? I beat the heart with every character in STS 1 (but never played the Watcher)
>>737591910>corruption needs dark embrace to be strong>Wraithform has always been mediocre on 3 energylol, lmao
>>737591984Uh? You basically waste 1 charge to play it so you really only have 2 turns to end the fight
>>737592173it can end up a dead draw in some fights where you know its not enough to end it but it really was one of the key puzzle pieces for a20 silent
>>737571228Not a fan of streamers but this is literally the only watchable one. Pretty funny guy and isn't overly bitchy like the other top players who don't have any streak record to back them up either. I was very surprising to learn he has a girlfriend, his fagcent speech mannerisms (tbf nost likely exaggerated for streaming entertainment) made me think otherwise. Not sure why most of the Spire streamers have the same way of speaking though. They keep spamming the same phrases, though this guy is the only one that manages to make it work.
Has anyone seen the Mushroom event anywhere except the last possible ? room? I dont think i've ever seen it anywhere else.Also Sneko eye Instinct Pen Nib Bury is quite funny
>>737570152She's raising my children
>>737592370hes not a fag hes australian
>>737592330Not really. Multiple feets, paper crane, malaise and wail are all better outside the hallways fights
>>737592370Opem is fine. I don't know why some people say Baalord is too sanitized. He seems to be the only one whose vocabulary isn't infected by "giga", "holy", "of the gods", "fwiends", and the likes. I don't think Jorbs is either but that man is beyond insufferable and can't stop bringing politics into his streams.
half the catch phrases were coined by lifecoach cause hes a sick nasty beast while jorbs is a timid raped bitch
>>737592547and how does wraith form prevent you from playing those?
>>737591638Soup's actually pretty neat now that it also has inbuilt Strike Dummy
>>737592752apparently jorbs is STILL mad about and brings up the time lifecoach's fans put 69 poop emojis on one of his tier lists
>>737588075I still haven't seen this god damn card.
>>737592792It's redundant
they seriously need to rework the experiment boss for multiplayer, phase 1 is just guaranteed 60 damage because you can't play any block cards or it scaled 100 strength in 2 turns
>>737593306just do your share of the damage lil pup
I love my floor 1 mangle.
friends... multiplayer... please...
>triggered by people saying holyjesus christ the state of some of you people
>>737593726i believe you meanfwiends... multiplayer of the gods... gigaplease...
>>737593306Just block the first 2 attacks and kill him turn 3
Am I just wasting my time killing these? Or should I kill like, 10 of them or something? Kind of a shame that there is no suspend function of any kind.
h-hi. hello. hello there.
join gamesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242940316887/76561199486452220
NERF THE BEE FUCKERSHIT IS IMPOSSIBLE
>>737593306how u losing 4 man multiplayer bro
>>737575318Jesus, he looks horrifying now. What happened to that loafing bum dude from a few days ago..
>>737595071>t. Shiv shitter
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>>7375972862/4
>>7375972863/4
do you need a rehost?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242944754623/76561197997192985manifesting bird cards and bird enemies
>>737598503yeah
>>737598518steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242944811367/76561198230044444
I think Dwarvin' Marvin is kill
>>737598590give him 5 min or host a new one?
>>737598590computer shat itself
>>7375985152/4I'll take this time to say that I do not care for innate cards, they clog up your first hand
The same game I always play
i keep missing the lobbies
apply vulnerablelife good
Bit insensitive to make the boss ukrainian no?
>>737600837>>737600909You fucked up Vlad
gg anyhow, we lost but we lost with aura
>>737598545there was an attempt, i didn't get any particle walls or bulwark at all.
>>737601190Just a burger yuropoor <3
>>737601254ill take it as a lesson on taking early retract
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242948110169/76561197997192985sometimes you have ggs and sometimes you have bgs
Finally won a10 with many attacks Osty build. Of course I had to get Squeeze and Lethality.Also got Bread to work, thankfully got Lantern so it wasnt that bad.
>Necro run is complete ass going into Act 3>Diamond Diadem>followed by Clamp
One step closer to a10 after weeks of neglecting my solo climb in favour of joining multiplayer lobbies, where I've technically got several a10 wins alreadySomehow, I only just realized during this run that Signal Boost isn't merely a renamed Amplify and doesn't wear off at the end of your turn
>>737571271I beat that cunt for the first time today. Had the option to duplicate my 30 card deck. Any other boss I wouldn't have.
Is there a lobby going on right now? Do we need one up?
>>737569396Loli everything tbdesu
>Really itching to play a specific archetype>Scared of playing and getting perfect RNG for an archetype I don't feel like playing right nowreeee
>>737603224FUCK IT HOSTINGsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242951566124/76561198043831607
I'm orbmaxxing on DefectGenuinely not sure what to go for here, what's the most potentially broken?Early in Act 2 so my deck has room to swerve
>>7376038383/4 lets go>>737603908Go Silent or Ironclad. Necrobinder if you really wanna try your luck
>>737603950Guess you can't go wrong with IroncladReally tempted to take the rocks
>>737603908No Regent is a shame but generally Silent or Ironclad tend to be generically applicable enough for all characters.
rocket pawnch
>>737604282Unfortunately knowledge demon gaped me cause my frost was all at the bottom of my deck
>>737601524ggs, thanks for carrying me in act1, i had 0 star generation at all with a deck full of star usage.
>>737568904OUR HEROES!!!.. and The Silent I guess...
>>737604897...and the Ironclad, the Defect, the Necrobinder and a bunch of minions
you fucking double nigger
>>737606023Pay the toll Trade away tent for white star is the easy choice depending on where you are on the map
>>737606073took the juzu
>>737606473Based
GG silent duo, it was fun hitting THIRTY TWO (32) FOCUS in one turn
ggs, I feel like I was just a support blockslut...
>>737603838>>737603950>>737606667Probably one of the most awful poison decks ever madeCarried by block silent desu
Why are the chinks mad? Did gacha games completely fried their brains and got them used to just stat checking everything?
>>737606694To be fair, you did a lot of help with Beacon of Hope+ that run. I noticed it gave me and the other Silent just enough block to full block shit that came our way like Soul Nexus or Mecha Faggot>>737606701I'm just glad my orb run worked out and game gave me Capacitor right at the end. Would have been better if I didn't burn all the powers in one go and waited to draw them on other turns to Echo Form them for max value. Also yeah Poison fucking sucks in multiplayer unless you're abusing Envenom via shivs or Corrosive Wave via draw engine. Without Catalyst there's no real way for regular poison cards to make the BIG NUMBERS needed for multiplayer. In singleplayer they're perfectly fine, but...
>>737606746They are bad at the game and have convinced themselves the crutch they rely on to beat the game is the only way to beat the game and are mad at Anthony for nerfing their crutch
>>737606886There's something really wrong with the ego of chinese people
>>737587082>broken>32/75Pick one.
>>737606746They aren't happy with the game thus have left bad reviews, and entitled westerners can't understand that reviews are literally a feedback channel.
>>737568904Anyone hosting?
>>737607198suresteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242957177069/76561198046595191
>>7376072853/4
>>737607174Reviews are meant for other potential buyers, not devs. The ingame feedback function is the intended way of informing devs.>The feelings of the chinese people were offended by changes to the game, so we will blackmail the devs through review bombing. Oh but the Westerners are entitled, not us.Do you even know what the words you speak mean, or do you just parrot things you've heard?
>>737607438>Reviews are meant for other potential buyers, not devsWhat an insane comment. Do you think devs don't care what reviews are telling potential buyers to think about the game?
>>737607578Those statements aren't mutually exclusive moron. Obviously devs do care what they say, which is why chinese review bombing exists. That doesn't mean reviews aren't intended primarily for consumers.Reviews are not the place for nitpicking minor changes. Blackmailing devs by hurting sales over minor changes is an entitled act by chinks.
rehoststeam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242958055186/76561198046595191
>>737607791It's a perfectly reasonable response to being unhappy with a product you paid for.
againsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242958130458/76561198046595191not sure what's going on
>>737607852I agree, leaving a negative review is a reasonable response for poor product.Going on a coordinated attack for any change that makes a game slightly harder, is an insane response. The very definition of entitlement. The Chinese are not responding reasonably. They are trying to blackmail the developers into making a game easier, despite it being a sequel to a game known for not being difficult.
>>737608027>known for not being difficult*Known for being difficult I'm sure you understood what I intended
>>737608027>heh, a20 was baby shitThis is why I can't take any of your opinions seriously. I'd rather side with the Chinese than you; at least they're being honest.
>>737608104>I'm sure you understood what I intendedMy man if you'd actually read these threads it's nothing but grognards calling you bad if you aren't playing A10 with a 100% win rate.
Am I the only one who feels that the game becomes less fun after A1?You get less card upgrades, less gold, less potion slots, etcI love it when harder difficulties elevate the gameplay and allows for more variety, but in StS it feels like you just get gimped and weaker
>>737608147Not true in the slightest. If you actually read these threads, they're filled with retards who have yet to reach a10. The people at a10 aren't claiming 100% win rate, at most they claim silent is easy.I've seen exactly one screenshot here of someone at 100% win rate, and they had just enough wins to reach a10 on each character. Obviously a second profile that was reset whenever they fucked up.
the fucking knowledge demon inflicted me with the curse of blindness
>>737608497waddafugsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242959331461/76561198046595191
>>737608524These lobbies fill up so fast
>>737608557it's a running game, someone's having issues
>>737608247Enemies/Bosses are overtuned at A10 and there is balance work to be done.>Relics and Card drop rarity needs to be adjusted/buffed overall>Some metas need buffs (Forge/Osty/etc) >Some Enemies/Bosses need to be toned down a bit (Less debuff/scaling)Most Hallways enemies past act 2 are tricky and hard to deal with and, unless you high roll, you are one bad draw away from taking -20hp to the face if not more.
>>737608027Why aren't they so vocal when it comes to their government though?>>737608524Haven't joined, but if you make a lobby warn what the difficulty will be like, I dont' want to shit up an A10 when I still have troubles at A3.
>>737608524gg
Why did they give the Regent Drums of Battle but good as a rare card?
>>737608524GGs very funny run lads. Triple Ironclad off random, with a dominate offered to me as the first card reward, meant I could scale off the vuln to the moon. Bully with Instinct is perfection.>>737608941Yeah I guess that's a fair sentiment, but I will say 4 people multiplayer is much easier than solo. (Also the multiplayer ascensions are unlocked separately from solo.)
>have a really shitty deck>but have the “gain gold when you add a card” + “gain max hp when you gain gold” combo>duplicate deck Pffthahaha. I facetanked so hard while double demon form gave me absurd strength. Win felt totally undeserved and I love it.
>>737608941Multiplayer ascensions are tracked separately and it's always set to the lowest max ascension in the group
One day they will make juggernaut a playable card
I messed upsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242963560706/76561198043812246
>>7376111513/4 starting in like 3 minutes
>>737611379Luv me som rocksSimple as
>>737611379I thought it was a snail until just now.
>>737573383I like it
>>737611578I hate how it’s rare because it’s only strong in act 1 and mediocre after that
>>737608247Game needs to be harder so your choices matter instead of being able to bruteforce the game
I hit the funny meme deck bros
Shining Strike is so good. This is the first run I've seen it.
>>737611151ggs, first time trying the defect status build and it slaps.
>>737612631Next time upgrade before you start cloning.
>>737611379>Fetishistic card>It's a picture of a rock crushing an animalWhy are the chinese like this?
How did I win in 2-player multiplayer with Ironclad on A10? It feels like My cards aren't good enough.
always play for history course
Do you think Coach will come back for 1.0?
>>737613160I'm still unsure how good it is.If you keep playing it stops you from drawing more of your other cards. It's good early though, especially against Overgrowth elites.
I’ve tested some stuff in custom run and picked juggling. That reminded me how much I hate that card>oops, you only have 2 attacks in hand? No juggling>oh, attacks you have cost enough energy to play but not the copy
I'm having more trouble with bad draws on Regent than any other character. I don't like the rare delayed 2 draw. I need shit to happen this turn when every mob is attacking and scaling.
>>737615343Some people think Regent is stronger than Necro but I honestly think Necro still beats him atm since draw order almost always stays an issue on Regent which is mitigated when you're already generating immortal levels of Block.
AAAA I want to reach A10 on all characters so I can go back to doing silly runs on Custom games.
>>737570206Challenge runs. Playing normal is too easy so he's doing "no skipping cards" or similar shit.So this IS an ironic run.
>>737574862>Frost openly talks about getting pegged by his gf.Read nigger
>>737572807Frost even castrated himself
Two bosses I struggle the most with on Regent:>crab>lizardAny tips?
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>>737613716fucking retard
Killed by a door again.
>>7376172853/4
>>737617306autism
>>737617285blackscreened?
>>737617285I black screened
>>737617530>>737617550steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242974825511/76561198043812246
>>737617627Wtf same characters and black screened again
>>737617627happened again
>>737617672>>737617675steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242974956146/76561198043812246
They should add multiplayer only events
>>737608247No, you''re right. A1-A4 are perfectly fine. A5 introduces Ascender's Bane, which might as well read>Increases the statistically likelihood of you getting fucked by RNG for no reason. Eternal.It's not really interesting and it only interacts with exhaust in any meaningful way. And then A6-A10 is just you getting gimped in increasingly more substantial ways. I actually like the HP, damage, and double boss modifiers more than the shit like>you see less good cards get fucked>you can't remove cards get fuckedI went back to playing on lower ascensions because I felt like I was having less fun the less freedom I had
>>737618457> Ascender's BaneMore like gain 4 block, draw a card and increase Ashen Strike damage by 4
I hate bing bong.
How do you share lobbies?Someone post that infograph with the anime girl telling me how to do it
>>737618762>that one guy who refuses to sacrifice like 5 HP to not get bing bong, gets bing bong, forgets he has bing bong, and immediately ruins his deck with double curses>spends most of act 3 dying and we losethis has happened more than once
What a no brain run>3 Perfect Strikes + Stampede act 1>Girya and Vajra act 1>Tri Boomerang act 3
>Be given mainly star cost reward cards>Pick them mainly for survival, eventually develop build around them>Never present decent star generation in Act 2 or 3, only stringing me along with generate 1-2 cardsDoes Regent have a safe archetype to lean into? This never feels good without the right cards. In some cases, I feel like I'd be skipping every rare reward if I didn't take a star cost one.
>>737617692gg>cloak clasp unfucking my runic because I had zero way of actually playing out my hand
>>737618762
>>737619542gg double flanking was pretty funny when both silents had it.
>>737618862Host lobbyGo to your steam profile page(click your username next to STORE/LIBRARY/COMMUNITY)Right click "Join Game" and copy linkDoesn't work if you're invisible
Just beat the door maker with a shitty deck and entered the fight with 30 HP and fairy potion. Before even starting the fight I had given up, now I feel great.Is silent OP`?
>>737620050Silent is most OP character in every conceivable way in both single player and multiplayer. She’s now what Watcher used to be in sts
>>737570454I saw Baalor win an A10 run with 3 Cascade and 4 fucking Havocs and I feel retarded
>>737619465Regent has this issue we have card games like yu gi oh called "Garnets", where you need A to play B and if you draw them in the inverse order you're bricked.Pick astral pulse and don't pick anything else unless you find Convergence, Sealed Throne, Cache, or upgrade your Venerate.Forge is okay boss damage if you have a strong card like Bulwark or Refine Blade.Card creatiob is its own monster and I recommend you try it because its hilariously great, or hilariously bad. Try spectrum shift and upgrade it, then ain for Pillar of Creation, Supermassive, or Arsenal.
>>737621325That’s why game gives you 3 starting stars. Which is more than what watcher used to have, a card with +1 energy
>>737621152Do you have a link? That sounds like a really cool run.
Every time I picked cascade it didn’t do anything
>>737618871I pay HP to make sure I get bing bong. We are not the same.
>>737621758www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBBABpJ86-0Starts around the 2 hour 15 minute mark
>>737594084The game has some really cool ideas. And ironically, much unlike the original Vampire Survivors, Crawlers has excellent presentation and a real strong aesthetic. But the game is just absolutely fucking broken. Like it runs well. But the game design has like no balance whatsoever. Don't really know what I expected. At least the game was really cheap.
>>737621791thats because you dont have the streamer seeded account
>>737619465Technically stars is the "safest" since he comes with star generation already. However, there is a pretty large gap between the usefulness of star cards.>Shining Strike can be useful very early but falls off extremely quickly>Solar Strike requires an upgrade to be a Shining Strike that doesn't fall off quickly>Glow has good utility and really wants an upgrade>Gather Light is a good early pickup but from midgame onwards if it's not green you're likely skipping it>Hidden Cache works better with specific synergies (Stardust, Radiate, Black Hole, Royal Gamble) all of which are draw order reliant, otherwise it's comparable to or often just straight up inferior to Venerate since the effect isn't immediate>Royal Gamble is draw order reliant without the upgrade and doesn't do anything if there's no pay-off already>Decisions Decisions is usually a brick in the first cycle, can get autoplayed by an ancient relic you can only have a chance to get in Act 2 and relies on draw RNG to really pop off>Crescent Spear is only viable with Cloning>Gamma Blast has 1 more turn of debuffs, but costs quite a bit of stars for mediocre damage>Comet has good numbers, but costs too many stars esp in the first cycle>Particle Wall is good but relatively expensive, has gamebreaking synergies that are reliant on getting ancient relics and cards. The most accessible synergy Black Hole doesn't have good enough output without ancient stuff.>Meteor Shower can only be obtained from an Act 2 ancient relic>Devastate's awkward 4 stars don't play well with Regent's default kit and you're most likely picking it out of desperation early on so it's bad all around>Stardust takes significant resources to pop off.>Seven Stars is unplayable most of the time>Dying Star is fairly expensive and the Ethereal keyword forces you to spend stars if you didn't draw it in the right turn and don't wanna lose it>Child is strong but dependent on your deck's star generation and payoff ability
>>737622438Reflect and Qasar are generally the only star-costed cards that are usable in just about any Regent build. And even then, the cost of Reflect still makes it somewhat draw order reliant / requiring you to have more star generation cards to be able to pop it consistently. I didn't talk about Resonance and Neutron Aegis because they're more like potion cards than actual cards. And I forgot about Guiding Star but it's honestly way too expensive without a star generation engine in the deck already. Overall, stars is a solid package but I do find it to have a lot more misses than hits in terms of card quality. Card generation is the strongest and most consistent archetype on Regent by far that doesn't have too much draw order reliance and has overall high card quality, though a lot of its cards really want to be upgraded.Forge is definitely way worse than Stars in terms of card quality though, and it's the slowest, most rare-reliant archetype to play too if you do a "pure" Sword build.
>>737620397Damn
>>737622696Sovereign Blade feels like a good complementary archetype for card creation since that archetype can struggle with damage output. It has worked okay for star builds since the Blade costs energy instead of stars, but you want a rare for that (The Smith). Otherwise it's slow as shit.
