But I thought it was technically impossible and would literally bankrupt developers???
YYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGout
>>737573610It was, until AI came along and gave us the secrets Einstein took to his grave.
>>737573610raping developers to death
unemployed zoomer thread
Is anything else going to happen soon? When's the next hearing or whatever? Why the nonstop threads?
Everyone say thank you Pirate Software.
>bend the kneeI'm pretty sure SKG was not going to be retroactive so Ubitsoft chose to do it.They are doing it for good boy points since they are pretty much out now.
What's "Ubisoft?" Is it some kind of GFX card program?
How come he sounded normal in the EU hearing? Does he use a fake loud and whiny voice for his Game Dungeon reviews?
>>737573884That's retarded. You go to the bar to buy stuff, you don't own the bar.A better analogy would be if the bar tried to take the drink they sold you away before you finished it because they decided they no longer want to sell that flavour.
>>737574442A better analogy would be the bar closing
>>737574442more like a gym closing while your membership is active analogies are usually a useless endeavor on Internet arguments though, I think most people just shitpost with inflammatory analogies
>the only democratic power in the world that's actively pushing and advocating for increased welfare and social benefits, as well consumer/workers rights, universal healthcare and ensuring fundamental rights for minorities (very strong sign of a prosperous civilization with high living standards) as well as using renewable sources of energy>bends the will of gigacorporations, mandates USB-C>is now also saving video games>actively avoids open confrontation and wars despite having the potential for one of the strongest armies in the worldmutts and other enslaved mutants could only dream of living in a place like this, the Pan-Evropan Federation is literally unstoppable.
>>737573884A building isn't the same thing as a piece of software. Hope this helps SKG bro!
>>737574028Looking at their stock, they're going to need a LOT of good PR moves to undo all of this damage. But even that wont help because the devs are compromised by faggots.
>>737574884Don't forget>Currently having their populations raped and replaced by believers of the One True Faith insh'allah
>>737575060And then burgers actually go to the EU, realize this isn't the case and never want to go back.
>>737573610how did a burger become the champion of the eurotrash initiative anyway?
>>737575060>the rape in question
>>737575060always with this fucking Israeli propaganda, go suck a dick Mr. Epstein.
>>737575060>let me tell you how bad the situation in your country isamazing
>>737574930hardware is required to run the online software you and developers use. hope that helps!
>>737575157>realize this isn't the case and never want to go back.too many of them have been coming to stay for good to leave their shithole Muttland, while the people they are running away from back in their shithole can't stop complaining about immigrants
>>737573610do they think running a server is free? Cloud costs are fucking expensive, how long is a company expected to pay the bills?
>I CANNOT REFUTE THIS SKGXISTERS AAAAIIIIIEEEEERetard, your analogy is stupidly flawed and you know it.Either shitposting or twice as retarded as the post itself.Double retard, even.
>>737573610pirate games must be fuming right now
>>737573610based
>>737575459they think making an offline version is free actually
>>737575209I thought Lithuanians killed themselves, not others.
>>737575524why would they? is the eu planning to make piracy legal?
>>737573884You got creampied by Muslims.
>>737575209>The Rape in question>Posts Homicide chartWhat did he mean by this?
>>737575631>is obsessed about rapes and creampies when talking about Muslimsanon, there's a deep seated longing inside of you it seems
>>737573610They courted death by facing the heavenly mold ascension sect.Pure foolishness.
>>737575209>640x675man fuck you, some of us are blind
>>737575842FUCKING KEK
>>737574884>democratic powerlmao
>>737573884>refutethere’s no argumentI want you and devs to eat shit, I don’t care about whatever “counterpoints” (read: fallacies) you come up with
>>737573884The world would be a better place of this were true and you know it.
>>737573884You anti-SKG shills are always like this.>muh forced upkeep>muh programming difficulties>muh EULA>muh government regulation (that don't favour corporate abuse at the expense of the costumer)Time and time again you get BTFO with the same rebuttals, and then you magically forget it the next day. I'm always left thunderstruck.>gradually, I began to hate them
>737573884it's ragebait, you retards
>>737576273>5 results in the last few days after the faggot changed the md5 to get around archive trackingYeah, everyone already knows. People reply because they're bored.
>>737576273replying doesn’t mean I’m mad
>>737573884>>737574595Maybe if you payed for the bat itself.
>>737576185>>gradually, I began to hate themIt's this simple. They're paid shills and they act like paid shills. They unironically get paid to act retarded on the internet and they are servile enough to accept such a pathetic way of "living".
>>737576406>>737576426let's talk about fun things instead, uhhh...played any good videogames recently?
>>737574028I thought it was going to be retroactive
>>737576580i finished re9, though it wasn't really good, just okay
>>737573884Refute this, dumbfuck.
>>737573610THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENINGNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
People still watch YongYea? I replaced him with Bellular years ago.
>>737573884It's a shitty analogy, so there is nothing to refute.
>>737576683i'm playing idols of ash right now. that thing is pretty disgusting, but it doesn't trigger my phobia at all. (my brother got drunk and gifted me the thing as a joke)
>>737576586Only if they determine that already existing laws were violated (which also doesn't make it retroactive), in which case they'll go assrape them without any lube
>multiple Anons feeding obvious trollsPlease stop.
>>737576580Yeah, I'm replaying a bunch of Castlevania games after Belmont's Curse got announced.
>>737575060>Islam and Muslims are so demoralised that the moment they go to western countries they either become secular or outright atheistsIslam has as much power in Europe and Calvinism does.>DemographicsA global issue that affects all developed nations, more in common with the way out society and economy are setup, which rate human worth solely on its industrial/comercial output and ties him to endless consumerism. To the point where there's no reason to live but to work and consume, even children are seen as an economic burden rather than a divine gift and blessing.
>>737575201Europeons need a STRONG AMERICAN CHAD to rise up and free them. They needed a free-man's mind to overwrite their NPC programming.
>>737573884>WHAT DO YOU MEAN MYFAVORITE FERRET STORE CLOSED DOWN?>DO THEY NOT KNOW I FUCK THE FERRETS THERE ALOT?>SUE THE OWNERS RIGHT NOW AND FORCE THEM AND THEIR FUTURE CHILDREN TO STAY OPEN UNTIL THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE REEEEEEEEE>EVERYTHING SHOULD KEEP EXISTING FOREVER
>>737576980That's all these threads are, trolls making obvious bait posts and people arguing in circles with them.Sometimes you get someone genuinely confused about what skg is, but that's pretty rare now.
>>737577324okay, why did you send this guy then?
If some guy randomly mentions muslims I just assume he's a jeet
>>737573610>One more thing.>Yeah?>Can you introduce me as... "Mold-man"?
>>737577393Every thread on 4chan is a troll thread.
>>737577610games for this feel?
>>737577610I wish Ross would embrace the Mold Man, even in a single video.Clearly he has to know we call him that.
>>737575209Lithuania bros, why do you kill each other?
>>737575842They were ferrets in a well
>>737577762Never saw trolls on /o/ just faggots and morons
>>737573778E=MC2+AI, it was so simple!
>>737576980These people aren’t trolls, they’re indians being paid per post. Best thing we can do is clown on them.
>>737576586A major point of making it easy to establish as a law was it not being retroactive so devs couldn't take massive shits on their desks because of it
>>737574028Their being forced by their investors in hopes it'll appease people enough to kill support for the movement
>>737577509Cost efficiency. The lamest American is still better than the most “chad” European. They won’t know any better.
>>737573610AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMOLDMAN-SAMA SPARE MY LIFE!!!!!!
>>737577775FTFY
ironic how jannies are deleting posts criticizing SKG. it's clear you've never worked a real job or ran a business
>>737575209>total instead of per capital
>>737578479>per capitalkek
>>737576697leftists are the ones endorsing SKG
is the game any good? i got it for 1 buck some years ago but never played it
>>737578479You can literally read in the image that it's per 100K retardfriend
>>737578458>The people that regulate all trade and business related things in they entire EU haven't got a clue about these sorts of things guys
>>737576697>that image because their entire argument is based on gatcha moments
>>737578542Everyone who with an IQ above 90 and isn’t an executive supports SKGs.Only Jews, Indians, and Rednecks are against it, and Indians are just being paid to do so.
>>737577292>Islam has as much power in Europe and Calvinism does.What did he mean by this?
>>737578294The American man needed to go to Europe because the American government only favors corporations no matter how Chad they are
>>737578138what
>>737576586Because you didn't read a single thing about the initiative and instead listened to grifters and corpo shills who were lying to you.
>>737577324I see what you did there.
>>737578790>Everyone who with an IQ above 90so not you? clearly you've never developed a game before or know how server authoritative architecture works for online games
>>737578625who are you quoting?
>>737579254Funny how dedicated servers have existed for decades now, but suddenly game developers can’t make them any more.
>>737579309>it's clear you've never worked a real job or ran a business>Meaning that dealing with your regulatory requirements which usually come from the EU is just a fact of business
>>737579254If multi-million dollar developers can't figure it out, it's clearly impossible, never mind that it used to be the standard
>>737574884TZD.
>>737579346modern games are much more complicated than quake and often require proprietary server/database software and toolsets. you're not simply storing a few variables on one single server like quake.
>>737579864>Ubisoft turns on offline mode just like that
>>737573610>LET IT DIE is releasing an offline mode when they end support for it in SeptemberDo you think this was at all influenced by SKG or just a final desperate gasp by a dev who mishandled a goated IP?Either way it makes me very happy to know the game will not only never die now, but they'll be releasing a version with the bad monetization, this is the future SKG will bring.
>>737574884Eurochads stay winning!
>>737579864No they are not.
>>737579430regulations have nothing to do with business. business is simply selling a product or service. but that still has nothing to do with the post you replied to
>>737579932bad monetization removed* LOL
>>737580043>regulations have nothing to do with business>The rules business have to follow to do business has nothing to do with running a businessRetard.
>>737580013have you ever written a line of code?
>>737579864all of that shit was unnecessary bulk they put in for no reason, specifically so they could justify killing games and not giving you server tools
>>737580115Yes. I have a Master’s in Computer Science and certainly know more about programming than you ever will.
>>737580098regulations are not business. trade is business. without a sale, you have no business. regulations only limit business
>>737580315What do you think the EU is in charge of EU wide retard?>It's trade retard
>>737578542>leftists>championing people being able to own what they buyLol, lmao. Leftists are the biggest corpo bootlickers in existence.
WE DID IT BROSWE CAN PLAY UBISLOP EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVESWE WON
>>737580360again, regulations are not business. slapping "trade" on your title does not mean you run a business. The EU does not sell a product or service. They do not conduct trade. They only limit existing business.
>>737580772They govern your business. They govern all business in the EU, all trade. To suggest that they don't know about business when they govern a significant proportion of all trade on Earth is simply foolish.
>>737573610It makes sense if you imagine it like Startrek>we can't do that it would be impossible>do it within a few months>okay, we will have it done in half a year
>>737580220cool, please explain how I should modify my existing multiplayer source code that relies on proprietary software like GameLift to help with matchmaking, distributing client load, authentication, etc? its not as simple as ripping out code. complying with SKG would require major rewrites to the network architecture and tens of thousands of lines of code
>>737580863governing business is not trade, it's red tape. politicians are simply welfare queens. Without the exchange of a good or service, there is no business. The person looking over the shoulder of a business transaction is nothing more than a leech.
>>737581375You crying about there being a government stopping you from taking the total piss out of your customers doesn't matter. You will comply with their regulations or they have the full authority to punish you.
>>737581503now back to the original point: you have never owned a real business and it shows. keep consooming
>>737581605>But muh free market lolbertardianism doe!The free market isn't fixing it. So the EU will.
>>737578138>E=MC2+AIaaaaaah!!!! that is so smart sar!!!
Ubisoft backing down from the idea that Always-Online is "an absolute necessity or people die in a fire" is pretty much the nail in the coffin on the awful shitty shit retard cunt practice of Games As A Service.I won't be satisfied until people are jailed for GAAS merely existing.
>>737581667it's ironic how the biggest consoomers are also the biggest government bootlickers. you don't produce anything of value, then bitch to government
>>737578182I'm grateful they are so retarded.Now we have absolute proof that Always-Online is completely unnecessary and infact very easily avoidable.I am willing to bet it earned them more sales to disable Always-Online too. Literally every argument against regulating the practice has been totally and completely disproven and by those who oppose it no less.
>>737581975>You can't just use the government against these massive corporations! You're supposed to be small and weak, not the boot up my ass!
>>737581375You’re right. We need to stop regulating slavery.And child labor.And discrimination.And retaliation.And wage theft.And benefits/PTO.And work hours/overtime pay.And what currency wages are used in.And what you’re allowed to put in food.And labelling of products.And safety of equipment and products companies sell.And standards for medicine.And…nah I think we should keep copyright laws.
>>737582046these laws apply to all online-only games, not just from "big corporations". if you actually developed a game or owned a business instead of consooming, this might make more sense
>>737582060everything you listed exists regardless of regulations btw
>>737582226Yeah I know. So what? Just because you're some "mom and pop" operation doesn't mean you get away with selling people substandard products.
>>737582309>substandard productsaccording to who? and who is forcing you to purchase "substandard products"?
>>737582397Eu regulations.
>>737581162NTA, but if the status quo is really as you describe, and games with forced-online components are really too reliant on proprietary software to allow an offline mode to be implemented or private/community servers to be run, even only as an End of Life plan, then that sounds like an argument for regulations requiring them not to do it that way.>>737582071more like
>>737582287murder also exists despite there being laws against it. In fact everything that’s illegal exists despite the law anyways.
>>737581162We don't need you to have matchmaking work to keep a game SKG compliant, just fucking add a P2P or LAN option
>>737574028I have zero doubt that Ubisoft already made The Crew offline-capable from the get-go, but instead chose to delete the game so that they could avoid having to renew car licensing fees later down the line.
>>737582521>just fucking add a P2Pask me how I know you have never written network code in your life
>>737582424>Eu regulationsmeaningless. Whether a product meets expectations is completely dependent on the customer
>>737582892The quite literally set the standards retard.
>>737582071Communism wins.
>>737578923Calvinism, like all protestant splits, are atomised and powerless against the overwhelming force of the modern liberal society that secularises everything and erodes social and religious values, pushing religion from the very core of society and into the side lines.
Total developer death, let those worthless mongrels starve on the streets like they deserve.
>>737584016Holy based, kill 'em all
>>737575209BRICS will rise any day now
>>737575603>>737577939it's russians doing those homicides
>>737574028If it was good boy points they would've done it when they shut down the servers. They are doing to halt or slow down SKG.
not enoughyou'll bend the knee fully which means: offline mode, all dlc ever purchased to offline mode, added LAN feature, devs volunary update offline mode if they want to
>>737584515you can shut up now
>>737584704Your homocide rate is literally higher than it is in Russia, retardWhat's your next excuse
>>737573610No of course it's possible it just means everyone has to pay more.
Would this really affect most GAAS budgets? Most of their shit is dedicated to licensing rights and modellers. It sure as shit isn't their programming.
>>737573610piratesoftware CAN"T BE WRONG he's a genius, you're all just faking it, nice AI picture of a tweet. This is a bad move for the games industry, you're ruining the games industry, stop it stop it!!!. 2nd generation blizzard employee btw.
>>737582721You're right, I haven'tBut surely having P2P or LAN play is less expensive and less complicated then using a bunch of dedicated server infrastructure, no?
>>737585491Then what the fuck is even the point of SKG? You don't need multiplayer servers for multiplayer games, you can just plop LAN mode on it? And of course singleplayer are already compliant.
This image mindbreaks the SKG cuck.Literally, positively, irrefutable.
>>737585272>Would this really affect most GAAS budgets?No, for example Siege could make the mode vs bots offline with ease.But for things like MMOs and Gacha it gets complicated.Ross did not think this through.>>737580749>Fuck Ubisoft for shutting down the crew>Okay The Crew2 has offline now>LOL LMAO BENDING THE KNEE OWNED Fuck ubisoft anyways????
>>737574028It's technically possible that the EU decides that taking away a game somebody bought is already against existing law.>>737576586You have 3rd-world brain.
>>737576185Notice how they're resorting to political 'us vs them' in a last minute desperate attempt to create a wedge.
>>737586337There are plenty of dead MMOs that have been revived by the community. The only thing the developer has to do in that case is provide the tools and not fucking sue them once they succeed.
>>737578923Uurrh duh, I'm retarded, *as Calvinism
>>737578479>per capital Retard.>thinking that there are 5 murders in total in Texas Hyper retard.
>>737585272It would lower the budget of most of those games, because they have no reason to put all that effort into making sure nobody can play the game without your permission. There is a reason why this doesn't affect any old games, and that reason is because games don't get killed by default.
>>737586001You buy beer at a bar, not a service.
>>737576185Trying to deflect or win through frustration by pretending to not understand the topic or your opposition arguments has been so thoroughly abused at this point that I don't understand why people still bother to resort to it.
>>737585880Because most games these days don't have LAN or local splitscreen support and require an always online connection to access their multiplayer modes? You can't play Overwatch or Marvel rivals offline at all via splitscreen or LAN, or in private servers, you need to use the official serversAlso, plenty of single player games do also have always online connection requirements.
>>737585272If they're serious about the aaS aspect they can make it free-to-play like so many such games nowadays, or subscription if they're really ambitious. Even without SKG, I think the type of game like The Crew or standalone GTA Online was on its way out. The model doesn't really make sense to anyone. Not to consumers, who would obviously view a one-time game purchase as a product, and not to the developers, who would only have a reason and a means to continue updating and running the game as long as more and more people kept signing up like some kind of pyramid scheme, which is why The Crew eventually shut down I guess.On the enterprise/application side practically everyone has already moved to subscriptions for that very reason.
>tfw you win regardless of the outcomeSee, if they don't do anything, I'll just keep enjoying my games without their permission. But if this passes, they get screwed over.
>>737586001Fuck jannies but good on anon for keeping this kek image for satire
>>737586498Nexon brought back Dirty Bomb by allowing people to host their own servers through rent, that is to say, if you don't have the hardware you can rent a server and play.this is a genuine solution to many games that use AWS, namely Highground.
>>737585330the FIRST second generation blizzard employee.
>>737586375>already against existing lawYeah there's been talks of this. If the EU finds this to be the case then it could be a fucking massacre for GAAS publishers.
>>737586835>Trying to deflect or win through frustration by pretending to not understandyeah i hate when retards do thi...>>737586835>I don't understand why people still bother to resort to it.YOU MOTHERFUCKER
