It filtered millions
>>737578347I like this game and I'm tired of pretending I don'tThis game has the hottest hag in gaming
>>737578408Awful character like all the others
>>737578347It proved bethesda still hasn't learned anything at all. Will never improve and will go out of there why to be as bland as possible.
How? It was made to be as inclusive as possible
>>737578578>>737578626I still don't get why this game gets so much hateLike genuinely it had the biggest grifting campaign against it in gaming historyMost people parrot false things about the game, or inaccurate, and still do 3 years laterFor instance I don't see how Starfield characters and quests and stories are any worse than any previous 'Thesda gamesMy guess is Snoys were buttmad they were gonna be left out of the next Bethesda gameI bet those snoys are now silently playing Starfield now that it's on PS5, as if nothing had ever happened
>>737578823Snoys got paid to shill against it
>it's da SNOYS
>>737578823>>737578881Well well wellI guess you are right anons lolJust Snoys throwing a temper tantrum, trashing a game down for no actual good reason, other than it not being able on their Nogaemstation 5 lol>>737578980Begone, Snoytroon
>>737579120available*
Procedural generation was this game's biggest sin. It's like they saw how much people hated the lame radiant quests in skyrim and decided to double down on it for some reason. Who genuinely wants to walk around on the same featureless empty world littered with a tiny amount of pois that start to repeat themselves too quickly?
>>737578347Never even tried it. Heard bad things like most planets are blank dead worlds. How is it different than, say, The Outer Worlds?
Did it filter the dev team as well ?
>>737578347having blast you can do alot in this game https://youtu.be/dEd57AZCv68
>>737579332Procgen worlds are worse than using AI
>>737579332>It's like they saw how much people hated the lame radiant quests in skyrimRadiant quests are goodIt always gives you a reason to LARP and fight enemies and whatnot.>Who genuinely wants to walk around on the same featureless empty world littered with a tiny amount of pois that start to repeat themselves too quickly?They fixed that in the latest update, added some more POIs.Also mods fix that and add some more POIs.How about getting some new material, parrot fucktard?
>>737578823I remember when the game first came out and people were claiming that the models were retardedly high poly... weeks before even the nost autistic modder was able to rip the game's modelsMysterious
>>737578347like bathroom everywhere filter jeets.
>>737578347>It filtered millionsMillions of westerners maybe
>>737578347Wrong.Millions played and enjoyed it and moved on. The the mentally ill /pol/roaches and snoys fused together into one of the weirdest seething campaigns in videogames.
>>737579551They were even posting screenshots of some million poly sandwich that wasn't even the model in game. This is the actual model.
>>737578347is boredom a filter?
>>737578823they promised:a 1000+ planet universewe got:5 towns and lots of procedurally generated emptiness
>>737579954>they promised:>a 1000+ planet universeYeah, actually it has 1700 explorable planets and moons>5 towns and lots of procedurally generated emptinessCities are pretty nice, Bethesda cities definitely, but pretty goodThe game also has a lot of curated side quests, as it is a Bethesda gameAgain, get new material, parrot nigger.
>>737579472Here's some, no matter what it'll always suck because theres no gameplay and also every progression system in the game is so broken modders won't even try to touch them. There's still no comprehensive overhaul for Starfield equivalent to IG for Fallout 4 or Requiem for Skyrim. Its just faggy star trek or star wars overhauls that don't actually fix anything and are purely for aesthetic larping.
Is this the thread?
>>737580112did I stutter?
>>737580125>because theres no gameplayThe gameplay and combat in Starfield is way, way, way better than Skyrim or FalloutMaybe the first time Bethesda ever did an actually decent shooter>also every progression system in the game is so brokenHuh?>modders won't even try to touch themThe modding scene is pretty active, you don't know what you are talking about and it shows.
KINO IN SPACE
>>737578823The game is a love letter to the american space race. Modern audiences are just too stupid to appreciate it.
>>737578823Dead internet theory is real. All of these "dead game" "XDDDD LOOK AT THIS DUDE" posts are just bot spam, and if they're real people they may as well not be. It's just the same shit every game, every thread, that isn't loli futa gacha trash. I've noticed lately with the Crimson Desert threads (which oddly devoid of these shitposts btw) that every time a big one dies, those copy/paste blind shitposts on every other thread surge.No matter who or what is doing it, but it's made the internet less than worthless.
>>737578347Starfield will be good, though it will never arrive at that point.
if your game "filters" then you're a failure of game designer
>>737580273This is where I post several paragraphs explaining why in detail and you just go 'no its good lol :3' because you're a belligerent retard. I don't have the energy today though, maybe next time Todd.
>>737578823>I still don't get why this game gets so much hateBecause we fucking played it. I want my money back.
>>737580681Cool, fuck off then cock muncher
>>737579551>>737579869every bethesda game that launches has some disingenuous smear campaign attached to it, this one was no different. also yeah, blender + subdivisioning endlessly = convincing fake.
NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A POWERFUL F*CKING STARFIELD ENJOYER
>>737580179STARFIELDKINO IN SPACE
Starfield is so bad it's genuinely offensive. I didn't even buy it i just tried it for 10ish hours on gamepass. Zero immersion and some of the ugliest character models I've ever seen
>>737580748Even better, it was some asset store sandwich with different fillings.
>>737580865HOLY SOVL
>>737580732I already did knobgobbler.
>>737580865They fixed the uncanny valley npc eyes years agoGet new material fucktard
>>737578408She sucks along with the rest of the main cast. Only Mateo and Ivan are alright.The rest are only tolerable as crew to use as ship plugins.
>>737580520Does Starfield have goon cunnykino yet? I want to start a new playthrough
>>737581001... the bar is in hell anon.
>>737580520It would be a 12/10 if they had loli crew available.
>>737581178>Sam Coe the legendary cuck is the only crew member with actually good cargo capacity skill>recruiting him means putting up with his wife's autistic mulatto daughter
>>737578347Can you seamlessly land on a planet now?
>>737581502Of course not.
>>737581539the fact that old and fucked up no man sky had it but bethesda needs a "loading screen" tells us a lot of how bad they are at their job.
>>737580672>every game should be for everyoneMass market bugman opinion
>>737581071bad bot
>>737581623NMS has a load screen too, it just covers the screen in clouds and atmospheric friction effects. It's even more obvious on NVME drives.
>>737581502Everytime someone brings up seamless planet landing/take off in a Starfield thread, I remember that games like Star Citizen or No Man's Sky have it, but that's the only thing those games have really.Once you "seamlessly" (it's always a well hidden loading screen) land on a planet, there's nothing to do except shooting rocks realistically.Sorry, but I prefer the game that has no seamless landing, but instead have the usual Bethesda dungeon structures, with loot to find, enemies to shoot, and actual side quests with actual characters.
>>737581317>I'm working HARD, Cap'n! :3
>>737581848>Your ship is so much bigger than dad'sWhy do I get diamond hard everytime she says this line
>>737581623That's a very fucked up line in the sand. NMS is built around that feature. Down to how the entire game is rendered on one algorithm. It's also extremely limiting in actual planetside content, in that everything has to be copy/pasted from that algorithm (including everything you read or interact with). Expecting it to be an industry standard is a fool's errand.
>>737581539>>737581623>why doesn't a massive imsim open world game with space flight also have <random feature from some indie game that's been in development for 20 years>SURPRISE PIKACCU
>>737581902You are a man of taste and integrity, like me.It's >implying that good ol Sammy broke in Cora's spaceport with his old clunker to make room for your new hot rod.
>>737578347>releases Fallout 76No Todd, please just move on and make TES 6>refuses to move on and makes “improvements” for the next decade>releases StarfieldNo Todd, please just move on and make TES 6>refuses to move on and makes “improvements” for the next decade
>>737581623lemme know when you can do anything remotely as cool as clip related in NMS>>737581787>clipvery rude
>>737581787Low gravity planets and moons are just too fun when shooting faggotsI also like doing big, almost endless jumps with the rover vehicle, sometimes it takes 30 whole seconds to fall back down lmao, and you can keep going by using the rover's vertical and horizontal thrusters
>>737582171Can't wait to see how they fuck up TES6. I can't imagine it'll be as bad as starfield, at least.
>>737581902For me it's JUSTcore. Guy got divorce raped so hard that he'd end up homeless if it weren't for his father and the lodge, and he's reduced to flying a space equivalent of e-scooter.
>>737582298It really doesn’t matter as long it’s fixable with mods. All we really want is the next region of Tamriel to explore
Yeah i pirated it, put 24 hours in a save then dropped itgaem sucks
>>737582184>emme know when you can do anything remotely as cool as clip related in NMSonce again... The bar is in literal hell if you think this is "cool". >>737581770yeah that is the point, their load screen is "hidden". Bethesda already lands you in the planet.
>>737582184Based fun haverGamebryo engine is ancient but it's still does things no other engine canI thought they made good use of it for planets/moons gravity for instance, also space stations and ships with 0g are fun as shit, all the clutter is floating around and gets thrown around when you bump into it
>>737582631Creation Engine 2 actually won several industry awards because of how advanced it is in certain aspects. I think it will be great in TES 6
>>737582292i love how the one constant in all todd games is the nonsensical ragdolls lol>>737582519>using random props from the scenery as improvised shields is lamelol sure>>737582631>Gamebryo engine is ancient but it's still does things no other engine canyeah the imsim aspects (physics interactivity) carry my interest a long way. i have the 0 g power just so i can make 5000 props fly around at command
>>737582631They don't have enough zero G environs. I've only been to one for the Trackers questline. I haven't gone out of my way looking but I think they should be a little more common.
>>737578347>A Bethesda game that expects you to beat the main questSacrilege. Knew something was off when preorders included 3 day early access and weapon/armor skins instead of the usual release day hype. Though I set myself up for disappointment expecting Fallout: Morrowind with crazy abstract alien planets when they clearly wanted to do the exact opposite of what people enjoyed about their games.
>>737582519>The bar is in literal hell if you think this is "cool". Can I shoot humanoids in cool dungeons in No Man's Sky?Can I like, disable a ship's engine, board it, and slaughter and loot everyone inside with gravity off in NMS?No? Well, I guess Starfield is the superior casual space game then.
>>737582712>>737582631i got taken off guard when i was cleaning my inventory. i picked up the game again, loaded my 2023 save, dropped EVERYTHING besides 1 armor + boost pack + ammo + 2 guns and pic related happenedEVERY game should have a 3d model for every piece of crap you can hold in the inventory.
>>737578823Probably because Bethesda announced Elder Scrolls 6 then made Starfield for like 7 years only for it to be the biggest piece of shit ever.
I gave it another try recently. The main story stuff is as bland as ever, but I was actually getting into it in little moments like investigating random derelict ships. Got into ship building this time, it's not bad, or at least it's better than when it came out. I guess it's backhanded praise to say that I have to set aside expectations and meet the game on its terms to have fun, but I am having some fun.
>>737582736There's more than enough trust me, especially if you have all the expansionsThere's a space station dungeon for instance, where the gravity will periodically enable/disable itself every minute, it's quite fun and you have to be mindful not falling to your death 100 feet below
>>737582736I've found them maybe twice. One was a derelict casino on a space station and the other was some large derelict ship. Shattered Space has these zero-g anomalies right in the destroyed capital city too.
>>737582846actually then i dropped the ammo as well and made this work of art
>>737582787That's a nice cockpit, bro.Stroud-Eklund?I like the Taiyo style, too.
Sunset on a moon
Petting animations when?
I hope we get a VR version eventuallyVR made (modded) FO4 actually worth playing to me again
>>737583050Yep, it's spacious and has a lot of windows, it's comfyTerran Armada DLC added some fuck hueg cockpits, that have a balcony with stairs, so basically a two floors cockpit, it's big enough that the cockpit is enough to make a whole ship with all the crafting stations, bed and such, out of it
>>737582305I was really expecting to dislike his ex-wife because people were constantly saying that she was a bitch, but she actually turned out to be a cool character who was in the rightWhich cracked me up a bit, poor guy doesn't even get the bitchy ex-wife angle
>>737583238when i built my ship in 2023 i just used the biggest cockpit i could find and pic related is what i stuck with.
>>737583372she's w i d eI chose the family trait so eventually my parents gave me a ship that outclassed the Mantis Razor, or whatever. I've ended up replacing everything but it's home.I really wish the ship building had some QoL improvements like a walk-around not split up parts by fucking spaceports.
>>737583372Look up the Drake C7 Cockpit, it's the one from Terran Armada DLCIt's a Nova Galactic oneHere's a pic, don't have it myself but I will definitely build a ship with itI read you can get it at New Homestead
>>737583251A shame we couldn't romance Lillian
They never did a space game before and they nailed ship builder in their first tryNothing else compares literally, and there are good mods for greater ship parts varietyI'm impressed Todd
>>737584326.
>>737584326To think we almost didn't get shipbuilding, were it not for them putting it up to community vote
>>737584131It looks very similar to Nova's Cabot model. Previously also the only way to have stairs connecting two levels instead of relying on ladders.
>>737578347In the middle of a playthrough right now, first one I've done since launch so every update and DLC is new to me. I'm having fun, also the performance is WAY better (I'm on the same PC, my FPS is up like 40% over launch)Why the fuck do I never run into the space fights during cruise mode though? The Free Lanes update says you can get attacked and shit during cruising and it hasn't happened once and I'm 21 hours into this playthrough.
>>737578823>muh grifters
>>737578823>I still don't get why this game gets so much hateThe game was hyped through the roof every since announcement and trailer for years right up until the Microsoft buyout of Bethesda, then it was hated overnight. Didn't matter if this game cured cancer, if Microsoft owned it, it was going to be hated. The anti-Microsoft bias in games media and journalism is clear and obvious.
>>737584738>Why the fuck do I never run into the space fights during cruise mode though?Bad RNG for you most likely, I get plenty of distress calls, derelict ships, asteroid mining station with 0g gameplay, ship skirmishes between factions, I also even got interdicted by pirates at some point and they threw me out of cruise modeKeep at it
>>737584326i wouldnt go quite as far as to say it was the only good thing in the game. but in contrast to how otherwise mostly mediocre the rest of it was, the shipbuilding was so unbelievably good, so many orders of magnitude better than elite dangerous or NMS or anything else, it was enough to keep me interested for 100 hours. the gold standard by which every other game with vehicle building and customization is measured now for me.
>>737584131i'm happy with my current ship, its pretty much all i need on this character which i'm not sure i'll play past just beating the DLCs i've just started. i do kinda wish i had a huge cockpit when i built my cargo hulk even tho i like how it came out.
MYSTERY NIGGASWhat did we think of Shattered Space and the Va'ruuns?
>>737579818>Rocket looks nothing like the stubby ISRO launch vehicles>Just looks like a European Ariane 6 with an Indian flag slapped onJeets, man...
>>737585034Kek based space trucker
>>737585215it looked beautiful next to the UC flagship. i even had it painted bright orange for some reason
>>737578347Starfield thoroughly deserves the 'mixed' score it has. It's very well made, but poorly designed in a lot of ways. Every good feature in the game is undercut by some other baffling design choice.The shooting is solid, the variety of guns is nice, but the only enemies are humans, some robots that don't do anything special, and aliens that are no more than wild animals. Many quests have branching choices, which seem interesting on the surface, but none of them are particularly consequential. The game is infested with essential NPCs that prevent you from breaking anything important, even though the ending is an infinitely repeatable hard reset that would solve any amount of fuck ups you managed in the current universe. The variety of NPCs and quests in the game is impressive, but do I really have to physically fly in and dock my ship and walk up to some guy face to face just to turn in a quest for the millionth time? Are there no fucking comms in the future?For me, what hurts Starfield the most is the bland worldbuilding, which seems to lack even an ounce of creativity. You have space cowboys, space pirates, and the space UN. If you don't want wacky talking humanoid aliens, I guess that's fine, but at least throw in something like the zerg. Terrormorphs are about the only unique thing in the universe, but even they are little more than a man-made WMD, which nobody seems particularly worried about outside of one questline. Also, and I know this is a nitpick, but I can't stand the way things are named in this game. Names like 'Neon', and 'Constellation', and 'Spacers', that have no character at all and leave me thinking, "is this really the best you could come up with?"I don't think Starfield is bad, but it is disappointing. It feels like wasted potential. I've been having fun with it, I just wish the world was more interesting.
>>737578823It's the first quarter of the game, the main quest in particular, that sucks complete ass They wrote the worst opening act of any Bethesda game easily, and while some of the later story content is better and the NG+ gimmick is very interesting the UC Vanguard questline for instance is literally better than the actual story of the game
>Ships longer than 80m can't land on planetsWait so what if you make an 81m+ ship your home ship, how the fuck do you land? Or does it just loading screen you onto the ground on foot?
>>737585373>and the NG+ gimmick is very interestingI'll give Bethesda credit for this. It has it's issues and didn't land well with players since the lack of gear carry over and such pissed people off but their attempt at creating a diegetic and sci-fi rooted narrative reason to NG+ was very neat
>>737585410Simple, the ship builder will tell you that your ship exceeds maximum size allowedThere are mods to make huge capital ships like you encounter in game, but beware, it might fuck with and clip through spaceports and buildings assets
>>737585586Freelanes update lets you carry your gear overYou have to build some quantum chest, and just put your fav gear inside before universe hoppingYour ships and outposts will still be erased of course, but that's fine by me
lately i have just been playing this for 1-2 hrs before sleep with music and voices at 100% and effects at 50%. legit just doing 1 or 2 side missions and slowly walking around. the game is peak cozykino sleep medicine.
Okay, this is epic
>>737585360>aliens that are no more than wild animalsThis would have been fine if they went with the Starship Troopers angle. The Nishina quest, that mining rig overrun by bugs and the terrmorph questlines kinda hinted that space bugs are still a massive problem and some of them are really tough and persistent, but it doesn't have much presence.
>the space beach resort planet still has literally nothing to do on it but sneak into the cabins and steal the swimsuits you still can't get any other wayAt least if you fuck Sarah Morgan her mom and ex-bff will stick around there permanently for some dialogue
>>737578347hard to filter millions when the amount of players didn't even get that high
>>737585819>sleep medicinelol I might just be getting old but I often fall asleep while playing late at night.
>>737578823it only took over a decade since skyrim but the general public are finally realizing bethesda keeps making dumbed down slop with bad writing.
>>737584738This might be a bug. I've had this happen with every single ship encounter icon in cruise mode. Target the ship for auto-pilot, and once it pops out of cruise mode there's just nothing there.
>>737585050I thought it was great, liked the overall story, quests and the cityI like how ominous, weird and alien their planet lookedDon't understand why it got shat on, maybe even worse than the main game, this game is basically cursed because everyone already decided it was iredeemable garbage (they haven't played it and just listened to Assmongoloid or something)
>>737579332>bethesda's singular remaining strength is their world design>decide to take their longest dev cycle yet too make a game that completely guts the one thing they've been good at for multiple console generationsinsane stuff
>>737578347Because it was boring, it was boring from the start and I was tired of listening to nps spit lore for 20 mins as I keep selecting "next" because it wasnt grabbing my attention. Funny glitch tho, I went to the first place to fight those aliens, an npc, looking like a fucking aboriginal, just floats by upside down and I burst out laughing. But, aucks for Todd because this was supposed to be his big dream game, but it didn't do it for me. It wasnt like Skyrim,oblivion, fallout 3-4. There was something missing, and it didnt grab me.
>>737585901Agreed, I think the game needed a more persistent alien threat. Stuff like that could have been really fun, but none of the quests push the idea far enough.
>>737582846oops sorry i spilled all my weapons
>>737578347>fallout space-jeet>10x the loading screens>story more skyrim than skyrimI played it for 80 hours and did everything, but Fallout 4 is genuinely better than this.
>>737585050Just finished it last night. I came in as a snake worshiper so I was already invested in the setting, some of it felt like an apology to people who picked the trait at launch. The great house intrigue was alright, I was more interested in the side quests and dialog exploring the concept of a bunch of militant space muslims accidentally 9/11ing half their population. To the point where you can ask pretty much every major NPC where they were when it happened. The conclusion to the DLC felt muddled in its focus and the choices, as usual, were superficial at best (this seems to be the main sticking point of complaints I've seen). I put Kadic in charge and had them hold off on restarting the crusade and I rather enjoyed the implications from various ambient dialogs.Overall, I probably favor it above the base game quest lines, but recency bias and playing into its strengths are strong factors. It might suck ass to be a cynical mercenary with no reason to give a shit about anyone there.
>>737578823I think it's because the Zenimax CEO supported Trump or something and is involved in that weird ahh jewish civil war. Starfield and Bethesda in general has been getting a lot of focused negative press recently and the engine argument is retarded.
>>737589685>negative press recentlyqrd?Is it about the recent dlc and update?
>>737585050It was alright, but I felt it ended too abruptly and the last two missions were downright bizarre with the constant amount of interdimensional shit and anime insanity going on.
>>737578347It's the second best hidden gemerald RPG. YiiK is still undefeated.
>>737589950Mostly about ES6 taking too long, but Starfield had been getting dunked on by the usual suspects before it even launched, and all the bad takes were amplified tenfold by the media and it eventually snowballed into a meme. Doesn't help that the game did get a little tedious after you exhausted the content, but then that's not the game's fault really.I'm not saying the game is perfect but it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone kept saying, I played it for 300 hours before taking a break on it, it does require a more unc brain to truly enjoy it though.
>>737578823They didn't have nostalgia to piggyback off of with the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games, so you had the unfiltered shit Bethesda experience.
>>737578408I just started the game but I already hate her because she's been fucking useless in combat so far>storming some facility filled with ecliptic mercs>fucking turrets and shit everywhere, storming the place is like storming the beaches of Normandy>she just bumblefucks around, don't think she killed even a single enemy
>>737585050i liked itit gives you a cute snake-people arabic waifu companionalthough i still prefer andreja
>>737591528>shartynigger hates the gameThanks, that's all the confirmation I need that it's actually a good game.
>>737589685Altman died years ago. The whole Microsoft acquisition happened because he was terminally ill and didn't have any successor who would know how to run a company.
>>737591626>tfw I realized that the space grandma event is Lynda Carter playing a self insert character who is sad about her husband's recent death
>>737592389Oh fuck...;_; now I feel really bad for watching grandma get run over by an asteroid because I use the deadly collisions mod
reminder there is a mission where you have to deal with a homo couple's breakup or something and one of the first crewmembers is a homo who immediately starts talking of his boyfriend lolThe only way to avoid it is to kill him or never talk to him
>>737585881mod name.
>>7375788231. Herd mentality mostly comprised of people who never actually played the game2. Jealous Sony fanboys at the time3. Youtubers and journalists who play into people's negativity biases for clicks4. ADHD players who got filtered early game5. Tortanic posters6. Spoiled PC players who are more accustomed to top of the line games7. PC players who can barely even run this game on their toasters
>>737584326>>737585034smol space krab
very nice views in this game
>>737578347Playing the story once was enough for me. Now I use alternate starts to ignore it competely but I wish the faction quests were a bit longer.
>>737584326Did they fix the Gummy Ship exploit that allows you to build a hollow (empty center) ship and become invincible since the game only ray casts the enemies' aim to the dead center (0,0) of your ship?
>>737592718You can't kill Barrett on your own, and he's statistically the least likely companion to die later in people's first playthrough due to how the affinity system works.
Starfield could've been so much better had they focused on the interesting stuff. The UC and Crimson Fleet were okay, the Space Cowboys were fucked because Bethesda is too shit to animate the giant robots which would've been fucking awesome (and any other dev would've been competent enough to actually get in-game) and Neon was....well okay Neon was really shitty cyberpunk.Instead Emil had that dumbass Unity storyline and the devs openly talked about how boring space is. maybe space isn't boring the retarded Unity plotline you're writing is what is boring?
>>737592718iirc that is one of the ucsec Atlantis jobs you get from the jap cop. Is that really why Barrett brought it up?
>>737594663I liked some of the neon missions but yes like most settings and questlines in the game it was half-baked.
You now remember when paid jeet shills were saying Starfield was "the white man's game" during its launch. And they would typically use this painting.
>>737578347Kinofield is the White Man's game.
>>737594818i just was thinking that if you created a mind-control device you wouldn't be dickering over whether to bring it to market, you would be killing the R&D to hush up its existence and then use the mind-control ray on politicians & rival business leaders. And they let you walk off with this free Manipulation 4 gizmo to boot, that's crazy
>>737585014NMS's shipbuilding would have been alright if they hadn't constantly dropped the fucking ball with it>WE'RE ADDING THE ABILITY TO CUSTOMIZE YOUR SHIPS!>except it basically just boils down to swapping out the wings and shit plus you can't mix and match parts from different ship classes>also it involves a fuck ton of grinding>WE'RE ADDING THE ABILITY TO MAKE SHIPS FROM SCRATCH>except you've got to grind each and every individual part (because apparently the idea of just unlocking parts or being able to craft them would be too much fun) want to add from wrecks or sacrifice parts you don't want to the ship part gacha for a chance to get a part you do want>by the way on launch shipbuilding was virtually unusable when it was first introduced because the shipbuilder would randomly eat your parts due to some seriously retarded coding (forget what exactly caused it, something to do with parts rotated in different directions to be saved as completely different parts or some shit which were unavailable in your ship part storage. Ironically serious pajeet tier coding)
Starfield is fixed now. Come home.
>>737578347By being a shit game.
>>737578408She not only looks bad but her voice sounds like a nature documentary broadcaster on public TV
>>737578347i paid 100 dollars to get this game day 1 and then never played it for more than like an houri told my dad i was gonna beat it and he said i need a real hobby and that made me sad and then i killed myself
being a pirate is so fun bros, I want to see how high my bounty can getfuck the UC, Sol system is mine
>>737578823The game is simply dogshit. Same reason the modding scene died and the latest DLC didn't bring many players back.
It's so weird seeing people try and 180 the narrative around Starfield on here. I had low expectations for that game but still played it day 1. I played it for about a week, 50 hours or so, did every single faction questline and got a ways through the main story. It's dreadfully boring. I really dislike the writing and companions, and there was no sense of "exploration".
>>737578347Played the best parts of the game, didn't have any fun playing it throughout all those quests.
>>737594893>white man's gameYou will never be white, Gurjeet. Neither will Saarfield.
can you do like anything with your ship now, are there any better companions, is there better weapon variety, and does the DLC add extra (a lot hopefully) of POIs to spice up the boring worlds? if yes I will pirate your game todd
>>737596994the update that just came out fixed the exploration, cruising around systems and getting up to hijinks is fun (plus the other 2 yrs of updates)plus the modding scene has developed a ton
>>737597361>fixed the explorationNo it didn't. Still nothing interesting and unique to find, still only a few enemy types, PoI interior still all look the same
>>737597361starfield is that game i own i really want to play but just cant be fucked for whatever reason
>>737597494>cruise mode added, now you can manually fly from planet to planet to EXPLORE space. Tons of encounters that you will run into naturally have also been added in the update>new ground POIs added in the update plus a fixed spawning algorithm>a new unique vehicle with a unique spawn you can only get by exploring planets>tons of bobble-heads with unique buffs on pick-up, gotta catch em all>2 new unique towns the game doesnt even tell you about, you have to find on your ownanon reviewbrah would tell anyone that the game is looking bright, stop being a disingenuous faggot
>>737597361well I can't refute what you're saying because I have not played the newest update, but I have kept an eye on the mod scene since I make mods for other games. And I will tell you, it has not "developed a ton". It doesn't have shit.
>>737598015>now you can sit through 10 minutes of nothing instead of instantly fast traveling to a location>to see """new"""" PoIs that are indistinguishable from the same ones you cleared dozens of times>ubislop collectathonsI'm sure this all appeals to the 55 year old gamer grandpas this game was made for, but it still has the worst exploration out of all Bethesda games
>>737578823Bethesda pissed off tranny journalists right before release which caused them to attack the game in an effort to defend their tranny friends. The only people who hate starfield are trannies now.
cruise mode is pressing T and entering Space Trucker mode where you just watch stars whiz by while and ship flies on auto-pilot.you might encounter a Derelict Ship poi here and there that have a little story about what happened in it. A guy gets infected by alien worms and they erupt out of his body, some family runs outta space-gas and they end up rescued. You know like how people would see a skeleton on a toilet in Fallout3 and were like ORGANIC STORYTELLING!
>>737578823The game sucks donkey dick. It was outdated 10 years before it came out. Story is trash. World is trash. Combat is trash. Space travel is trash. It's fine if you enjoy it. You're allowed to enjoy trash. But let's not kid ourselves and pretend it isn't trash.
>>737598303Bethesda is a tranny company
Bethesda makes the same games over and over
Starfield was too Christ-pilled, which is why it gets attacked because no mainstream game that reveres Christianity should be unharmed.
>>737598447Those were the original women that worked on Oblivion, you retard.
>>737598527>women
>>737598606https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Angela_Browderhttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Christiane_Meisterhttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/8beaRGYou're a troon that hates women that worked on good games, kill yourself tranny.
>>737593549I fucking love small ship designs like this in Starfield. They're suprisingly hard to pull off, but very satisfying. Reminds me of Samus's ship.
>>737598716Top is just a fat chick, other 2 are 100% trannies
>>737598527>original womenhmmm
>>737598447>>737598831Pic related is the same woman in the middle. She just got old and is kind of a weirdo.
>>737599098IT'S MAAM
>>737594893It's about the least white game possible. Jeetslop through and through.
>>737598103what would you want to see?for me >alternate start without a ship>fixed economy and progression>set dressing so settlements seem more believable>cool outfits and ship parts plus>roleplay elements like a new fuel mechanic,usable brigs,and gamblinghave addressed the most glaring issues that remain with the game and have left a sense that modders are on the right track ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BUY IT YOU FAGGOTS
>>737598447>Senior environment artistmore like señor amiritebut skyrim had good environments so its allowable
>>737598447>>737598831This is the chick on the bottom, Megan Sawyer. This is her LinkedIn profile pic. You can say they hit the wall at 100mph, but they aren't trannies.
this was the biggest disappointment of 2023 man. after this release i 100% knew there was no hope for bethesda
>>737578347Didn't this just get it's massive Cyberpunk 2.0 tier update? Why did it fail?
>>737579373outerworlds is is shit they tried and its shit.starfield is wasted potential and why the fuck is it like this? they should know better, they have done better in past games, why is it still shit. even now its like oh they finally fixed it but not really. its improved but still annoying as fuck to use. they should know better, mods have done better, why did you fuck it up? how are you this shit at everything. you could have just copied yourself or a mod and it would have worked perfectly. but no you made it barely functional. fuck you todd.
>>737599408cyberpunk doesnt have loading screens every 30 secondsalso bethesda games were fun 10 years ago. you need to realize its 40 year olds on this site telling you how good morrowind was lol.
>>737598479Starfield would have unironically been better if they had actually just gone all-in and let real-world religions exist instead of mushing everything together into the nothing-religion of the Sanctum Universum. The stupidest part is how the official lore is supposedly that the the religion is only a couple decades old.It's just stupid to make a real-world future setting and then pretend like the whole world would be bring their Charles Dickens collection and there isn't a single Bible to be found.
>>737599676>if they had actually just gone all-in and let real-world religions existYou've been reported to HR.
>>737578823It looks like it has less soul than No Man’s Sky and that’s a procedurally generated quilt made from a decade of patches
Starfield is pushing the boundaries like no other game
>>737595687nms lets you put ladders where ever you want.starfield still is that garbage oh you put all these habs enjoy your fuckin labyrinth to find the cockpit. no you cant pick that thats where the door is.
>>737599676>>737599769you can find a bible in game, lol hold on a sec
>>737599676The game quotes the bible constantly too, the whole starborn plot is basically "God did it"
>>737597130Saar this is modern white country saar
>>737599905holy based
>>737599902I bet you're thinking of Fallout New Vegas. You can get one in the Honest Hearts DLC, from a Mormon, which I find incredibly ironic.
The main story is boring as shit, and unironically making your character the "Starborn" with copy pasted dragon shouts is quite possibly one of the most audaciously lazy design choices I have ever seen in gaming. It's actually impressive that Bethesda could be so shameless to blatantly rehash the shout system while simultaneously giving the player character a title so fucking on the nose. It just keeps getting worse the more I think about it. Bethesda spent years hyping this game up as muh NASApunk muh hard sci-fi, no humanoid ayys allowed, just to make the entire plot revolve around bullshit space magic and universe hopping. This still *COULD* have been salvaged, if they didn't fully lean into muh procgen slop. 6-8 planets full of handcrafted settlements, different biomes, characters, quests, etc... would have been infinitely better than 1000 planets where about 990 of them are just empty husks full of nameless NPCs, radiant "quests" with no stakes whatsoever, and copy paste settlements. Bethesda games have always been carried by their ability to organically incentivize exploration. Even though they also had retarded / uninteresting main stories, it was still fun exploring the world and getting sidetracked by different handcrafted sidequests and characters that took you all over map. This sense of exploration straight up doesn't exist in Starfield, and it makes the typical flaws of Bethesda games far more apparent.
>>737600245anon beat me to it:>>737599905
>>737600256Exploration in Starfield is just different because you're exploring empty planets in space, it's by no means inferior they just wanted to give you the feeling of loneliness amongst the stars instead of finding a skeleton on a toilet.
i started playing again and was having some fun but then i talked to those little junior ranger kids in akila about some quest and i pressed alt + F4 and uninstalled
>>737599905godd howard is a 90s gamer at heart
The game feels like a bad unity porn game from 2011. >>737597130I played indie games that had better textures and faces then this shit. That is why people hated it.
>>737600365the male urge to crest a ridge and view the valley below
>>737600365except youre never alone on these planets and moons, there is always some outpost or explorer nearby no matter how absolutely remote a place you land onwait 120 seconds and there will be some ship landing nearby too for absolutely no reasonlike all bethesda games they are pretty fun until you make contact with an NPC
>>737581787everything is just souless, you just sprayed someone with laser rifles and the bodies don't even show a mark. blow them up with a shotgun at close range? same.go to the next square with nothing to do and enjoy being nagged by a karen
>>737581787i actually enjoy the kino ragdoll animations. the falls flat animation but also the one where their jetpack blows up and sends the corpse flying off in to space is pretty funny
>>737578347I'm still playing I love the Kinofield
>>737600675I found some that really don't have any human presence or structures but there's not that many of them. They were marked as level 70+ and on the very edge of the star map. The only ships that ever land on them are starborn. I carry the artifact pieces with me, which was supposed to make them hound me.
>>737601294the games hardcoded to fuck with you. warp to orbit and just wait 2-5 mins and something will spawn into you.go to the most remote planet and you will hear a ship land in 5 mins
>>737600365>>737600663when it hits it really hits
Starfield is for high IQ gamers
>>737579120> trashing a game down for no actual good reasonnot for any good reason but for many ugly reasons
>>737601676>look Bibi I posted it again
Why does Bethesda still make loot shooters and base builders and not proper rpgs with meaningful content? Are they lazy or just stupid thinking we won't see through the boring crap?
>>737578823Everything in the game that's hand-crafted ranges from good to great. Everything that's procgen is awful. The problem is that upwards of 80-90%% of the moment to moment gameplay in starfield is procgen, from exploring 99.9% of the worlds and locations, to walking through the actual hand-crafted locations and seeing the ugly ass NPCs that consist of nothing but fat brazilians, abos, and elderly chinese women that comprise virtually the entire local population of every single society.There are of course other problems, like there being zero purpose to outpost building, not enough unique locations and missions, little to no immersion in the space travel and ship flight, and just a general sense of wanting more content from pretty much every facet of the game. More enemy types, more recruitable companions and crew, more unique ship parts, collectibles, actual unique weapons to begin with, etc. For reference, Skyrim has over 650 unique locations to explore including PoI dungeons and non-instanced open world locations, while Starfield has somewhere around 150, with half of those being story and sidequest related, and the rest being a mix of procgen'd PoI's with half of those being who gives a shit nothingburgers added for flavor, and the other half being "dungeons" that are each identical to every other of the same type (each cryo lab is the same as every other cryo lab, etc)tl;dr it's a game about space exploration in which the procgen exploration and its systems are by far the worst part of the game.
just started this and I have to tell you guys...it's not getting me>the hag is fucking annoying, at least I have my waify andreja>guns look cool, but feel kinda samey and all the ammo types just seem like a chore>all the planets have fucking nothing to do with them except killing some random mooks>did the mantis quest and the armor looks like fucking shit (I modded it after)>no gore at all, not even blood, what the hell?what do I have to do to start to enjoy it? just follow the main quest?
>>737601986Everything about neon is lame and gay. They handcrafted its sexless bars and boring quests.
>>737601987the mantis armor does indeed look incredibly gay. I have no idea why they did a Batman reference but made the armor look so shit.Doomguy's armor, however, looks okay in that it just looks like nu-Doomguy's armor...yknow, more bulky/technological instead of just some body armor he had strapped on like OG Doomguy.
>>737594846they are the only ones playing this shit everyone moved on during the first week. There is not worthing on this game to play more than 10 hours.
>>737596893bruh the mod scene died so fast and they were so hyped because they would finally get rid of the cancer that was the author of "unofficial patch". LMAO
>>737597361>fixedit's the same trash with some qol ... Everything is still dead and boring
>>737578823Every defense of this game is something along the lines of "anyone who doesn't like it is just parroting mean things other people said and hasn't actually played it." I put 150 hours into it. Obviously I wouldn't play it for that long if it was a totally awful game, but it's easily Bethesda's worst game and sorely lacking in almost every single aspect.
>>737595303Oh yeah lol I forgot about that and I just finished it a couple of weeks ago. The cherry on top is that then the Constellation crew bitches at you for not getting everything shutdown.Bonus points for them bitching about my choices in the Vanguard questline.iirc, Ryujin was also making a countermeasure for themselves that would not go to market. Too little too late, I'd reckon, but I got mine and I'll just fuck off to the next dimension lol
are there furry mods already?
>>737601676>>737601735bruh the fact they let if go in the full game means they don't even tested the game before shipping. KEK
>>737602691mod scene is literally dead
>>737596893the modding scene died because they took 10 moths to release the creation kit and when they did they locked the documentation for it behind an NDA for the good goy official paid mod program.
all they had to do was make a star trek clone with multiple aliens. having it being mostly humans is disgusting
>>737602691>alreadyhasn't it been like 3 years
>>737602775>locked the documentation for it behind an NDAno kiddingi wondered why there wasn't any
>>737602794starfield biggest accomplishment is to be worse than starbound and starbound really fucked up big time.
>>737602232All the NPCs in the neon bar are the same terrible procgen brazilians, including the dancers, though I agree they still look retarded in that outfit even when they don't spawn as obese non-binary abos.
>>737601987go do the faction quests, everyone agrees it's the best part of the game. Then wander off from there. It also helps if you're roleplaying a character too.
>>737602939>>737602775have some documentation lolhttps://files.catbox.moe/4xycfq.pdf
>>737599408>Didn't this just get it's massive Cyberpunk 2.0 tier update?It's not much of a 2.0, just a handful of QoL updates that in no way moves the needle for most people.
>>737599586>why the fuck is it like this?>why is it still shit>why did you fuck it up?You do very little to answer these questions. Copying Skyrim would've been a bad move, imo, and what other example you've got of a good Bethesda game, recently?
>>737601986>Everything in the game that's hand-crafted ranges from good to great.Hard disagree, the main plot and main settlements are also terrible, they're just marginally better by comparison than the lazy procgen slop that makes up most of the game.
>>737603309The people who knew how to make games retired or were fired. This happened through out all the industry then you add to this the great companies going public and the marketing team getting high positions in the "development" of games and you get trash like starfield. Todd jacked off so much how he waited technology to catch up to make his epic just for his epic to be worse than things he did 20 years ago.
>>737603403did they fixed the square roles for caseless weapons because some retard in the art department thought caseless weapons would shot square bullets?
>>737603545No lol they still have square barrels. Though they do or did have round tubes for the double barrel shotgun, but they sit as inserts in the squared frame.
>>737602747shan't be playing then
People crying for TES6 should look at this game, especially how they are doubling down on paid mods, and take a hint that we will be modding skyrim for the next 30 years.
>>737603460>you add to this the great companies going publicWhat do you mean "going public"?>the marketing team getting high positions in the "development" of gamesThe marketing team should stay in its lane and market. You add in all of the nepotism babies, too, and diversity consultants.>Todd jacked off so much how he waited technology to catch up to make his epicYou think Starfield is Todd's epic? This is funny. Todd can control all aspects of development, don't you think he'd know the game will be bad before it came out?
>>737603126>procgen brazilianlol
>>737603267>outside of theC:\Program Filesroot directoryoff to a good start
>>737603267did you run this through OCR?
>>737603309There are ui features that are in fallout 76 and mods that starfield lacks. Like they solved the problem they did it in a way that was tolerable to good. Then that same feature is in starfield and barely usable. For example the world map 76 1 button to bring it up, one button to exit out, no lag. Starfield launches with no map. After being added You still have to fuck with menus to reach that map. To exit the map and get back to the game is multiple menuscreens. Its awful.
>>737578347One of the worst games I've played. An incoherent amateur shitfest.
Big Todd is planning terrorist action against Microsoft for murdering his dream game
>outsource everything to india>sit in california and be the ideas guy>make a skyrim 2 teaser to pump up your company's value>microsoft buys you for billions>tell them yeah the new game is ready pfft>no it's fucking not todd, tell your sweatshop to keep working>pfft okay you got me haha thanks for the money btw
>>737578347I have high standards so yeah it filtered me
>>737578347It was just extremely mediocre. The story took no risks, and you could tell the engine was holding them back from doing seamless or at least nearly seamless travel. Strangely, even the elements taken from Skyrim and Fallout 4 were somehow hollow.
>>737604867So they've fucked up basic QoL features?
Can any Bethesdapreet explain why I would play Starfield instead of NMS or X4?
>>737605937If you played NMS and X4 you can tell why Starfield is a way superior game to both.
>>737579869so they changed it because they were caught?
>>737606024you fell for the tranny FUD made ti discredit the game.
>>737606059jokes on you, the trannies are the ones defending this game
>>737606087they're the only ones that hate the game because starfield is extremely anti tranny.
>>737605706Yes. And its been years. Another example is crafting/basebuilding. 4,76, nomansky. You can leave your shit in storage or workbench. Starfield shit has to be in your inventory to craft/build. Is it in your ship? sucks to be you. Is your companion holding the resource ?well you have nothing. Fill your pockets with crap and be massivly overencumbered when you try to build a base asshole.Shipbuilding is oh god why why fuck arent all the parts avalible in the same store. Fly halfway across the galaxy to get a different wing then fly back to get that engine. And its awful to use the ui.
>>737578347No one, or most people now, at Bethesda has any knowledge or ability for what made their games great anymore>>737578692proof
>>737601735this game is a product OF the jews not despite them
>>737606117the pronouns guy wasn't a trannyhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/TiBbzNj1OJQ
>>737606019Elaborate.
>>737606019
>>737606137>shit has to be in your inventory to craft/buildHarsh.>Fly halfway across the galaxy to get a different wing then fly back to get that engineYou don't think of such stuff when playing games. Such a simple thing...>And its awful to use the ui.I imagine so.
>>737605363bruh... LMAO
>>737606453>You don't think of such stuff when playing games. Such a simple thing...yes we do, even more if there is like 5 or 6 loads screens between it.
Yeah, the crafting and building aspects are so underbaked. It's obvious Bethesda was throwing them in because the Survival/Crafter genre having explosive FOTM energy.Playing with the shipbuilder can be fun but it is cludgy as SHIT and you have to want to figure out how to use it.
>>737606502>5 or 6 loads screensDamn!
>>737606137embarassing.
>>737606635it really is. its one thing to just be incompetent. its another to have done it mostly correctly in your own other games and just be trash in the flagship.yeah mods help but modders gave up on this shitpile. theres so many minor things everywhere that they fucked up. and people have been pointing them out the whole time. its not like its hidden.
>>737607237by the way, someone pointed out that some qol are behind a paid was in the paid mods... Enjoy.
>>737607298>>737607237Maybe they're trying to make room for a paid mod ecosystem. Some indie developers could make a living fixing the inventory etc.
>>737597494Is this "there's nothing interesting to find" coming from a person who was in the minecraft beta threads, or a faggot?
Starfield is the white, Christian man's game.
>>737606137It pulls crafting materials from the ship cargo, no matter how far from the ship you are. It was that way either since the release or one of the early patches. What they really fucked up are the huge outpost containers.
>>737607881comparing minecraft to starfield... lmao, kek even
>>737601987The Steam reviews are 'Mostly Negative' for a reason.
how come i never see people talk about no man sky outside of starfield threadsif the game is so good, how come nobody talks about it, ever?
>>737578347>>737578408
>>737608231I didn't, learn English.
So, are there actually developed porn mods yet with a decent amount of animations?I think that might be the only thing that can get me to try it again at this point.
>>737609130Also, mods that fix the mystery meat potato NPC's obviously.,
>>737608490Because it's a terrible game, everytime someone starts up a NMS thread it's full of posts who talk about how awful the base gameplay is and how the updates keep putting on shallow systems upon systems and never addressing the boring base gameplay. Starfield is a far better game and we've gotten better threads over the past year or so.
>>737602692monke gramma
>>737609130we literally just got an updated animation framework mod at the beginning of this month after like three years of NAF no longer being maintained, so I expect more sex animation mods to flow from that in the coming months.
>>7375933688. Game is genuinely terrible
>>737608060>Starfield is the white, Christian man's game.Is this why 90% of NPCs are black and look like gorillas?
did modders make the game good yet ?
You will not trick me again, /v/. I put off playing Fallout 4 because this site was adamant the game was objectively shit. When I finally picked it up on sale and played it it was genuinely one of the best games I've ever played.Starfield is an amazing game no matter what /v/ says and I can't wait to play it but I'm not fucking paying more than $100 for it, Todd.
>>737610815They arent though
>>737599408>Didn't this just get it's massive Cyberpunk 2.0 tier update? Why did it fail?No, it got a small throwaway patch that they pretended was an overhaul even though it didn't change anything that matters.
>>737610969They said it wasnt an overhaul, just an update for Starfield fans for more starfield content. it's okay, they have 8 more years of DLC and patches for the game. Next year's DLC is gonna be huge.
>>737599218I want the whole game world and story thrown in the garbage and deleted and replaced with a better world with actual exciting things in it. Starfield will never amount to anything when it has the most boring world of any scifi game ever.
>>737593368>>7376107569. It's the JEWS
>>737611059This shit is never getting any improvement that matters. A patch that fixes what's wrong with Starfield would cost as much as making a brand new game.
>>737611157You can literally murder the last jew in the universe and perform the final solution in Starfield. Which makes it the most anti jewish game ever made.
>>737611182And what's wrong with it pray tell? The worst gameplay issues were already addressed with the newest patch.
>Sarah disapproved of this action.
>>737611290Its entire world and story and everything in it is shit. All content in the game needs to be replaced. ALL OF IT. Remove every single thing in the game and create new things that are fun in their place.
>>737611378Maybe you should just play Fallout or Skyrim instead if you hate scifi so much
>>737578347Filtered me so hard that I'm never going to play it
>>737611146your in luck they literally already did that and replaced it with star wars
starfield has 0 people playing or talking about it, anyone who talks about it in a positive light is trolling or baiting, and if they aren't they're retarded so it doesn't matter what they say>dozens of scenarios where ragdolls are just placed like this because they get dropped t-pose
>>737610756>Is my game really that terrible?>No it's the players fault, they don't understand my artistic vision.
>>737611498I like scifi. I don't like boredom and ugliness. Those two are some of my most hated things.
>>737612009is that one of the new poi's they're talking about?
>>737612368Yes. It took Rajesh 500 hours to make so please appreciate it.
Any mods that let you avoid ng+ like getting all space shouts without it etcalso are there enbs or graphic mods?
>>7376120092 years later it outlived 99% of the games out there and it's still going to be talked about for the next decade.
>>737578408>sarah maam dont die sarah nononononono maam! Maam! MAAM!
>>737580520Safe horny reddit fetish
First time I've seen a thread that's confirmed to be a shill thread. I hope you guys are getting paid because if not why even waste your time trying to convince people to play pure video slop. You spend more time in loading screens than seeing the weird diversity posters and hearing the reddit tier banter. Ship combat is shit. The gunplay is nothing special. Some of the quests have highlights but no real impact on the wider galaxy. The only good part about this game existing is it delayed them shitting on the corpse of what fallout used to be for awhile longer.
>>737582184>every enemy conveniently shoots the thing you're somehow levitating in front of your face because the NPC AI is worse than early 2000s games
>>737613460Another /r/gcj tranny seething at starfield spotted
>>737612009it's still very popular. i know, it surprises me too, but no need to cope about starfield's success.
>>737599905>Christian>fills his games and company with niggers, trannies and jewPoetry.
>>737613220only because of Bethesda's legacy and how it's the living embodiment of AAA dev slopification.
>>737578347It filtered no one. There was no filter, it was like a sewage pipe. Full of shit.
post best immersion qol mods
>>737612262This. Add to the fact that Starfield was disappointing even by Bethesda standards, even with lowered expectations, I want to physically harm anyone defending it.
It feels like theres a push to gaslight people about the launch and push it as some misunderstood masterpiece. Is this just retards being contrarians for replies or could it be legit shills?
>>737614067it's mind boggling how they managed to screw up the fucking Bethesda formula of all things. I thought that'd be impossible to do, but lo and behold, Microsoft buys them, 76/ESO became their primary output, and Emil underwent a fucking lobotomy causing him to write the blandest lines known to mankind. It's fucking sad man. I used to dream about the future of Bethesda games back when i was younger.
>>737613764love thy neighbour, fag
>>737613460What do you mean by "shill thread"?All I'm seeing here is people trying to actually talk about the game, and then the vast majority of the thread is the usual discord troons squad shitting it up by parrotting the same tired ass disingenuous tortanic arguments from their favorite assmongoloid e-celebsMaybe we'll actually be able to have normal discussion about it in about 5 years, who knows
I genuinely can't tell if this thread is trolling, peak contrarianism, or just some Bethesda PR psyops. Anyway, at least I am not the one defending this turd.
>>737614067>>737614368filtered
>>737599905>the whole Starborn plot is basically "God did it"bethesdrones will look you in the eye and seriously say this is good writing
>How it feels seeing peoples constantly mocking your nationality and your favorite game.
>>737582703>Creation Engine 2>advanced
>>737614368The temples were the most glaring error to me, even though they are not the most significant.They had such a simple and well established formula from Skyrim that everyone loved. You wander or have a quest lead you to a location, enter the dungeon, fight through some draugr and solve some simple puzzles, fight a miniboss and get your power word and loot.In Starfield some guy just tells you exactly where to go, you fast travel to a few hundred meters from the dungeon, walk in and grab your power word with zero combat or puzzles, then you exit and one random guy has awkwardly spawned outside on the ledge where his pathfinding struggles.
>>737613783If it was slop it would have been forgotten but it outlived everything because it has soul and passion put into it. Definitive proof that good games sell and are played forever.
>play bethesda game>it's broken beyond redemption>"just mod it bro">ok fine I will mod it>todd updates it years after release, adding nothing>all mods break>6-12 months till modders patch their mods to the new version, if at all>modlist end up breaking>todd updates the game again, adding a cash shop that charges money for mods they didn't make>all mods break, but this time the mods are also divided due to the extra mod shop>6-12 months till the remaining modders bother to patch their 12 year old mod>the same cycle repeats every time todd sells the exact same again, check Skyrim and FO4 to see how many times this has been done>the same cycle repeats in every single game they releaseI'm tired boss. I can't keep bothering with Bethesda games anymore, they should be paying me to do that, and people keep doing that for free for some reason.
>>737614368because starfield is intentionally designed to not be skyrim/fallout in space and changes their formula into respecting the scifi setting and to give you a different feeling to space exploration. Which turned out to be a huge love it or hate it kind of game.
>>737614970they allowed you to bypass the whole temple thing by just shooting at the starborn with the newest update btw, no longer a problem because they probably figured out that it's annoying to make a hundred temples with different puzzles and just let you shoot at enemies to get your powers after you do it once and never again.
>>737615046The same applies to FO4 and FO76 too honestly.You can mod FO4+SF to a great extent and turn both into your kind of game. I like survival mods and creating my own gameplay loops so both games are fun. FO76 is like highly modded FO4 with permanent progression, minus the survival elements (they are replaced by food autism, instead)It's quite obvious to me there is a major design shift at bethesda. They're more system driven now than story/narrative driven RPGs like in the past. This is why they appeal to certain types of autismo gamers more than the usual bethesda crowd which is why I assume there is a lot of ire toward FO4/76/SF.
>>737615046Tell me what part of Starfield respects the sci fi setting when you basically have a completely nonsesical economy, near future tech for your character/weaponry, ships that are more like lego than anything remotely sci-fi in the way they're cobbled together and the ingame lore for them and how they're regulated is also nonsencial. Everything about the game reeks of idiots that don't understand how anything works, in realty or sci-fi. It's a mess and you have to be an equally huge retard for that not to be a problem for you. It's "science" fantasy at best where everything is completely asspulled.
>>737615108>they allowed you to bypass the whole temple thing by just shooting at the starborn with the newest update btwkek are you serious? so there's just a starborn waiting outside every one now?
>>737601676>>737597130SOVL..........
>>737615595Starfield does a good job of making the future look very bleak
>>737615595They changed it and these freaks are not as common anymore.
>>737615975>freaksTodd's masterpieces*
>>737616359DLSS 5 is looking great
>>737614774You deserve it for being a shit eater.
>>737615942but the whole story is about how good optimistic the future is
It's the white man's game.
>>737578347Correct, and quite honestly it gives me hope.it proved that despite all prior evidence, normalfags have a bullshit threshold and will put their foot down when it's passed.
>>737617727normalfags aren't the ones who were filtered by this game, it's the zoomers and women who live within the attention span dictated by the max length of a tiktok video
>>737618508Indeed, the zoomers saw the name bethesda and bought it, and the women saw the wholesome diversity and rushed to it.Then they got bored immediately, because even they have some standards.Everyone else was kept out by the filter (having eyes)
>>737618686the main genres women are into are puzzle games and fantasy games. FPS scifi games are about as toxic to the average woman brain as reading a nonfiction bookbut indeed, a lot of zoomers bought the game because they assumed it was skyrim in space. it was not, so they either finished it while fighting their attention span deficit, or if they share similar traits as the 25 and above demographic, they found a great game and a new kind of experience from their usual tiktok, fortnite dominated sphere of interests. but among normalfag zoomers that section is severely underrepresented.as for everyone else, you are right. the main demographic ie millenials and dadgamers, mostly enjoyed it as most user review aggregates indicate.
>>737589685>ahh
>>737580731I got it for free and want my time back. This game was a steaming pile of shit.
>>737580112>Yeah, actually it has 1700 explorable planets and moonsNo it doesn't faggot, it has infinite non-persistent instances with very poor procedural generation. The fact you're pretending this is okay outs you as a paid bethesda shill.
>>737578347>saarfield is slop for boomers with an IQ dropping at light speed after a life drinking alcohol >star citizen is a scam>elite is a trucker simulator in space>nu male's sky is a crafting simulator where you hoard a billion trillion ressources to do logistics and refining with in abhorrent menusfuck modern space games
>>737580748>every bethesda game that launches has some disingenuous smear campaign attached to it
>>737580748>>737619258today you have youtubers who only make videos shitting on bethesdait's some sort of clout chasing or something
>>737619380its because the modern games are divisive >>737615242 which creates an optimal environment for sloptubers
>>737614774Just don't use 4chan. Half the people here are retarded trust fund kids that don't know what they're talking about and regurgitate other people's talking points anyway
>>737601902because bethesda is just better at the looter shooter aspect
pisses me off how this game cant be played on an HDD
>>737620009can AAA games today even be played on hdd? even cyberpunk from 5 years ago will bug out ungodly on hdd
i seem to remember somebody made a mod that enabled HDD playi imagine it's long out-of-date though. a lot of Starfield mods were, like the usual Bethesda bugfix community patch itself had support dropped and became unmaintained.
>>737619782>trust funds kdsi tought that we're all indian here
>>737578408
>>737620287lmao the 4th dialogue option is so retarded, there's a fucking pool of blood for fuck's sake
>>737620185There's probably like 10 actual Indians on this site. The majority of 4chan is either White or Hispanic.
>>737607881It's coming from someone who played a lot of the game and know it's all smoke and mirrors. You will not stumble across anything interesting in exploration besides nice vistas you can soipog at
>>737620287OH NO NO NO NOSarah... I unironically like this game, it's my go to casual space sim now, No Man's Sky is just devoid of good space/ground combat and planet ground content despite having le heckin' seamless landing
Starfield: The Space Nomad ExperienceNo Man's Sky: The Space Drifter Experience
>>737582991The arena looks like shit.
>>737610073lmao nigga
>>737614991>If it was slop it would have been forgottenIt did. Both FO4 and SSE have more daily players.
>>737578347my biggest issue with this game is that i can't go full va'ruun zealot and purge the galaxy of the non believers
>>737578347>Have FO3 and FO4 to refine gibbing in a firearm focused game>Can't deform bodies at all in Starfield>Can't take their clothes either because they are 60+% women and thus this would be sexism
>>737614053it will be 7 bucks saar
>>737621120also weapon modding is downgraded compared to f4
>>737614269even the people who were legit hyped for this game and loved fallout 4 dropped it on the first week. Even microsoft knew this game was not good and forced todd to sit on it for more 2 years and it still trash.
>>737610073I swear everytime there's a NMS thread it's the same scenario everytime>Holy shit guise new NMS update! The game is totally fixed this time!!>Oh okay what does it add?>*list a bunch of fluff features that doesn't actually add anything substantial to the game*>Okay cool, but did they do anything to make the gameplay loop into anything more than landing on planet, mining rocks, crafting shit, repeat ad nauseam?>No but->Did they add meaningful combat, quests, story, dungeons?>*awkward crickets sounds*Then someone brave enough brings up Starfield, and how it's better (which it is) because at least it has actual space and ground combat, ship boarding, multi-biome planets, actual story and side quests with named characters, dungeons>B-but you cannot seamlessly land on planets in Starfield!!>Okay cool but what do you once you seamlessly landed on a planet aside from mining a bunch of rocks?>*awkward crickets sounds*Every single fucking time kek, it's the meme that keeps on memeing
>>737621178>Can find weapons with attachments>But you can't remove them to stick on your favorite gun, as you could in FO4Starfield somehow went backwards in most regards, as if FO4 was a good game to start with.Enemies becoming fucking damage sponges sucks ass too. Walk into a room and there's 12 identical NPC's except one of them takes about 40 times more damage to kill, because high level areas still spawn low level mooks but merely replace the leaders with comically over-buffed dudes
>>737621252fallout 4 in survival mode is a fun sandbox, i don't understand why they didn't launch starfield with one
>>737621252You seem really bad at building your character and gear broI one tap almost everything, regardless of difficulty settings
>>737621178>Enemy damage values are completely removed from what they are actually carrying, and instead dictated by their level>Meaning that minigunner might tickle you like he was shooting you with plastic BB's, and that dickhead with a handgun next to him wipes out 75% of your HP with a single shot
>>737621310You can make a 1-3 hit KO build in Oblivion, doesn't stop the game's HP bloat balancing from being an issue, retard.Making meta builds is not how everyone plays.
>>737578823>I still don't get why this game gets so much hateit's dogshit and it's dogshit that took up years of time that could have been spent developing a TES or Fallout game that would have been marginally better simply because they didn't take place in the absolute black hole of worldbuilding that is starfieldalso that's not what 'grifting' means, what the fuck are you on about
>>737578823That would mean it worked on ps5 right now it works worse then cyberpunk did when it was released on ps5. Nothing I said was wrong bethesda hasn't learned and if any thing has dumbed downed further.
>>737621395>TES or Fallout gameGet fucked faggots, I hate your shit games and I hope they do go through and support Starfield for 10 whole years like they said a month ago
>>737621234And then when you talk to people who play and enjoy NMS, they play on relaxed mode which basically removes the resource hunting in NMS, removing a huge aspect of the game in the first place.
>>737621438i do not care, phoneposter
>>737621438>xhe believes Toddthey're going to milk your wallet with paid mods while a skeleton crew makes dlcs
>>737621395DO YOU REALLY want another TES or Fallout made by modern bethesda? Do you really want another emil classic writting?
>>737621438>Fallout>ShitYou take that back right now, Fallout 1-2 and NV are fine games.
>>737621395>dogshitfr fr no cap
>another PR team thread samefagging about starfieldyeah it sucked, as do most bethesda games. this one was so bad that even the average buyer hated it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YMg4ehhCgU
>>737610872No they've fixed some bugs turned it into star wars but the game still sucks in its bones.
>>737621798>people i don't like say that word so nobody is allowed tookay nigger
>>737578347Yeah the millions that didn't buy itYou are out of a job Ramesh, go drink from the Ganges
>>737620287Relax guys, she's just on her period.
>>737620287The [medicine] prompt is such a mockery of the skill and perks system. I would believe it was a parody of bethesda games if it wasn't a bethesda game lol
>>737582703They're updating it for TES6 to the point they're calling it Creation Engine 3. Very interested to see what they're cooking with that game mechanically speaking
>>737622725just like all modern engines it's going to have forced dynamic lighting
>>737622725>>737622884
>>737584326best part of the game tbdesu
>outpost system>all the planets look the same boring rocky hellscape so no incentive to ever make one
>/v/ is so overrun by jeets that SAARFIELD is now unironically praised and shilled
>>737578408>sarah>hotugh
>>737622725Todd said they're focusing on loading for creation engine so either way the next elder scrolls will be way better after the mistakes they learnt from starfield
>>737590326dont forget todd kicked jason schreier out of BGS' office years ago and wouldnt allow him or any of his cronies back in. dude was the top cheese at kotaku so he's gonna have reach within the incestuous video game journalism industry
>>737623507Constant threads about E33, Crimson desert, Cyberpunk, Resident evil requiem, BG3, Monster Hunter Wilds, Dragon's dogma 2, Kingdom come deliverance 2, Elden Ring, Metroid Prime 4, FF7 remake and etc didnt clue you in?
>>737620628why put a tattoo there? it ruins her
>>737593765there is no point changing that because anyone who is going to build a hideous and retarded hollow ship just to metagame in a singleplayer BGS release is severely autistic to the point of derision
>NASApunk
>>737578408How desperate do you have to be to see a woman do a very simple pose and sell that as, "the hottest thing you've ever seen." Every time you fuckers try and sell me on Sarah or, indeed, any character it's with a simple ass-shot that shows Nothing Particularly Special? How is that ass "good?" How about you show me some boobs? Is this... The power of India? This must be the power of Jeets. That verminous breed is so desperate for even a drop of female interaction that absolutely any woman with clean skin and good clothes excites them. No wonder your women hide behind closed doors for most of the day. No wonder marketplaces and festivals are always conspicuously lacking in women. Any time you so much as sniff a woman you become ravenous beasts.
>>737578823The game was simply not very good and people wanted TES6 or Fallout 5The game also came out after the shitstorm that is Fallout 76, that game permanently damaged Bethesda's reputationThe main quest literally does not matter since you're encouraged to loop a bajillion times to max out your Force powersThere's no point building ships, bases and settlements since you're just going to loop a bajillion times anywayYou're basically encouraged to rush the main story and beat the game once, loop a bajillion times until all of your Force powers are maxed and only then you reroll until you get the normal loop (the one where everyone is alive and normal) so you can finally play the game properly...until you're also forced to loop at the very end because it's part of the main questlineSome other studio should have made Starfield and Bethesda should have begun TES6 development after Fallout 4
i'm friends with over 30 people who play games, probably half of them have hundreds or thousands of hours in Skyrim, NV, FO3/4. literally not a single one has ever touched this game. it's fascinating just how unappealing this game is on an instinctual level.
Bethesda went from Serana and Lydia to Piper and Curie to two used up old hags Not even Skyrim and Fallout 4 modders bothered with this game
>>737578823>For instance I don't see how Starfield characters and quests and stories are any worse than any previous 'Thesda gamesThey're not any worse, this game only makes you realize how instanced he made the open world this go around.Don't think of this game as 1000 planets, because if you do that you'll treat all 1000 planets as separate worlds when they're not. Instead, think of this game in the context of a Skyrim or Fallout 4, and transform all 1000 worlds into one giant map stitched together. When you do that, two things start to become clear, the first being he filled most of this game with empty space, and the second is that it's not as filled as it should be with distinct things relative to the amount of space he put into it. Once you realize that, then it's just a bunch of instanced zones with not a whole lot of varied things to do, and you lose interest.I love space games and I love the open world slop Bethesda makes, so this game should've been tailor made for me. All it did was make me see all the bad parts of Bethesda games, where as the previous games were able to mask all of that enough to make me not care, it's a real shame. Maybe I'll jump back into it later when more stuff comes out for it.
>>737623507almost all social media is rapidly getting dead internet'd by advertisers and propagandists it's less obvious here because of anonymity, much easier to spot when account names exist and have extremely low-effort patterns because normalfags don't even think about it
>>737624682>Bethesda went from Serana and Lydia to Piper and Curie to two used up old hagsThis has less to do with Bethesda and more with Western developers giving up on attractive or even friendly love interests in general.
>autistis leech on to a medriocre game>spend all their time to convince everyone else that the game is a secret master piece and everyone saying other wise is against themthis is just like dark souls 2 all over again the game is boring filled with loading screens and a ok plot move one
I like SaarfieldTo be honest there isn't a lot of choices if you want a space game that isn't a straight up a boring, grindy, second job uncslop simulator
>>737604176Maybe a true real competitor in the past Bethesda style will show up somewhere in the next 20 years
>>737594846im pretty sure crimson desert shills used the same argument and memes as the starfield saars. Its genuinely fucking creepy when a game is shilled unaturally on here and they all use the same memes and shitposts and then they disappear like they never liked the game after a month. Saarfield had many dedicated shill schizos before the game released and after the game released and they suddenly just disappeared off the face of the planet after a certain time. Dead internet theory is real
>>737578692That explains why I didn't like it.Just not my culture.
>>737626874I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA
>>737580861>With wherever ship you wantI am now even more convinced that anyone defending this game is a jeet lmao
>>737627195>why all your crew are women in bikini
>>737627174>baldurs gate 3 has multiple different fun combat encounters when you fight, interesting bosses, unique loot, interesting party, interesting and unique dungeons, better story, more choices and hot women (inb4 the shill posts a modded woman)BG3 has its issues but its 1000x better than saarfield. It unironically has more white characters too despite being known as a woke game
>>737623956source? if so I fucking kneel to godd howard even if starfield is a pos and he should've been making elder scrolls vi
>>737627509>baldurs gate 3>fun combat
>>737627560i'm sorry for your "pistol jeet" status
>>737580578there was no love involved in the creation of this game
>>737627195>>737627407>retard tourist doesn't recognize the meme
>>737578823youd have to put in effort to make a game this bad. they were handed a silver platter and they fucking shat on it
>>737627174HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
>>737628175honestly it annoyed me that you don't become leader in factions but probably todd kneeled to faggots who cried about it
>>737627860I'm not a tourist for not being hip to every single gay ass Discord "meme" you faggots come up with on the daily.
>>737578408she's beautiful and I love her
>>737628175Baldurs gate is literally the worst thing about baldurs gate 3
>brown women clean up your ship for freeTHE WHITE MAN'S GAME
I like these threads, i find funny how anons try to bait people with ironic praising and silly "chad" images because somewhere, between all the baiting and trolling, someone truly believes or was made to believe starfield was good.
>>737628452>andrejaisn't that eastern europe
the moment sex mods are playable again I'm reinstalling it
>>737628335>"am i fitting in yet?"
>>737628519The game is goodI'm not being ironicStop listening to the hi/v/emind for once and experience things for yourself
Shut the fuck up Mariel.
>>737628562nobody lives on earth anon...
>>737628562Eastern Europeans are POC. You didn't know?
>>737617526best robbar
>>737628175>>737627174make one about the romances i beg of you starchad
>>737627543here's a forbes article that mentions the kotaku blacklist. allegedly banned since 2013 for leaking fallout 4 infohttps://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/11/20/why-kotaku-was-right-to-tell-all-when-they-were-blacklisted-by-major-video-game-publishers/
POWERFUL.
>>737628605I fit in just fine with (you), all the local degenerates and autismos
>>737628632dont bother, anon. let them scream into the void.
>>737628175SAAAAAAAAAAARI AM A VERY GOOD JAM BOY...I AM A VERY GOOD JAM BOY...I AM A VERY GOODJAMBOYI AM A SHIT EATERI AM A WOMAN RAPERI AM A SLOP SHILLERI AM A POOPIE COOKERI AM A SHIT LOVER
>>737628924
>>737628924Starfield fans are NOT Fucking Indian! Stop spreading these Lies!
starfield? top seller 3 years after releaserelevancy? major outlets reporting on small DLC releasesmod status? 13k and countingfuture DLC? promisedfuture support? ongoingstatus? ESTABLISHED SPACE KINOshazamtroons? lostedtodd? wonnedStar? KINOField? INwon? SPACE
>shartfailed
>>737594893>>737617526>>737628452Simply based.
APOLOGIZE
>>737629215kek saved
if starflop had been 2030 gb and could run on a potato i might buy it on sale but 150 gb for an unoptimized loading screen sim, fuck no
>>737629252I apologize ToddI should have listened to youYour game is great, I now see the errors of my ways
>hehe the ironic damage control bots are logged in, posting on cooldown>that will convince some of the bots in the account to appreciate the jeetslop
The white man's space game is Kerbal.Only actual jeets play Saarfield because they can't grasp basic maths and writing your own story.
>>737629103that right I am white Chadyan I dont undersand the the haters I hate dalit india bastards I not like them at all so .
>>737578347>It LOST millionsFtfy Mogged by Elf and Squid dick.
>another successful maxed out starfield threadGonna enjoy more starfield threads for the next 5 years unless 4chan dies first.
What causes Indians to shill for Betehsda?Is there really no respectable employment over there?
*yawn*Starfield haters are so goddamn boring, I'm so tired of winning
>>737629592there will ALWAYS be bumplimit starfield threadsthe small brown men of /v/ FLOCK to these threads just to PRAY TO TODD that he might grace them with the presence of the ULTIMATE white man's game
letsmake a new game in a future scifi setting millions of planets laser rifles and time travel just to do dragon born magic powers again i will never not be pissed fuck the dipshits at bethesda I hope the indian girl fires all of them sentences them to a lifetime of scooping poo from the ganges river and harvesting gold from dell optiplex motherboards/ourgirl/ will do the needful
>Barrett is gay and was married at some point>We literally have a gay nigger from outer space as a companionHOLY TODDKINO
>>737630871zased.................... so................. h*cking.............. zased.................
>>737628374>beautiful
>humans leave earth>immediately forget all about race, nations, religionthis is the deep nasapunk lore casteless jeets keep telling me about
>>737632045Christianity still exists
>>737578347i played it for 200 hours bc its literally skyrim in space, but after i got done with all the missions i got bored and its just skyrim in space. hell they even replaced dragonborn with "starborn" its fucking crazy how much they phoned it in. but it didnt provide me with some entertainment value.
>>737628804good, fuck that shitter
>>737627860>I am merely pretending to be brown, it is a meme. I swear on Vishnu and my grandfathers oldest cow saar
>>737632987it does not. The only church left is non denominational and works with atheists.
>>737634494>starfield universe never discovered secularianismcoolstory
>>737628374Unbelievably ugly bitch with a shitty attitude to boot.
>>737626874>Its genuinely fucking creepy when a game is shilled unaturally on here and they all use the same memes and shitposts and then they disappear like they never liked the game after a month.Bethesda uses a specific Indian "engagement" company to defend its shit games online including here and I assume other companies use that too. That's why the defense posts all sound the same; they're literally the same people working from the same book.
>>737578823>I still don't get why this game gets so much hateit doesn't. there's not enough fucking content to hate, it's almost as much of a disappointment as (You)
i have never seen a game studio alienate their audience so much with not knowing what they're good at nor giving the audience what they came for. they should have settled on being either elder scrolls company or fallout company and just made singleplayer games in those veins.starfield was such an idiotic move that i can't help but feel it would have done a lot better if it felt 100% nothing like a fallout or skyrim.
Between pokétoddlers, bethesdjeets and blizzdrones who would be the biggest shiteaters? Who has the least self respect and keeps worshipping the company that keeps shitting in their food bowl the most? Cast your votes now.
>>737632045>in far future humanity evolves past petty meaningless labels and concepts and focuses and stuff that mattersbased
>>737636210agree it all so meaningfulless maddarchod bloody senseless why you do it when you can traversal the stars no caste like a bad boy . only the timmys hating it
The sad attempts at memes this guy is posting feel incredibly inorganic. Not the discord tranny shill kind of inorganic, but even worse. They are "fastfood chain twitter account" unfunny and forced. As if some 40+ year old with an outdated idea of what the kids on the internet like made them
>>737613220That's a fraction of the usual post-launch Bethesda players. Fucking Fallout 4 has higher daily peak players by like twice that and that game is also a bit anemic.
>>737637616t. newfag who thinks 4chan is twitter without accounts and doesn't recognize an old meme because it's not a wojak or redditbob and its not on knowyourmeme
