I genuinely can't refute it, it's impossible
>>737584827yeah but the one on the right can have sex with you without it being awkward
>>737584827>can’t imagine mystical creature in the world filled with other mystical creatures skill issue
...Even though cats are solitary animals that never live in packs (except lions because they're wolf coded)
Don't care, I'd fuck both. fight me
>>737584827Not every animal lives in a pack, herd or flock.
>>737584827Meowscarada looks more like a wild animal that could be in a herd than Jynx, Hitmonchan or Machamp
>>737584827Tigers don't live in herds.
>>737584827lamefreak and tpc know their nu audience are all brown and troon coomer freaks who don't really care about the quality of the games and just buy both games every year like the mindless goycattle they are
>>737584963feral/stray cats often live in packs. Well, they call them colonies.
>>737584827Did this retard never hear of solitary animals? You know, ones that most big cats belong to.
>>737584827
>>737585139>or Machampyou have clearly never been to a gym if you can't imagine a wild pack of machamps.
>>737584827you cannot refute it.
>>737584963>>737585152But can you imagine them in a pack and not have it feel weird
>>737584827I don't care if it makes my dick hard
>>737585265then you have clearly never been to a furry convention if you can't imagine a flock of wild Meowscarada
this is why digimon rapes pokeslop the humanoids look like toby fox characters at least in digimon they got some shit that is basically just cosplay bitches, honorable mention yugioh for staying based even after the waifu creep
>>737584827That's bullshit, final evos should be rare in nature. You should never see a herd of Venusaurs. You should have one or two Venusaurs, some Ivysaurs and a whole bunch of Bulbasaurs.
>>737584963>there are anons who have never seen cats IRLgrim
>>737584914Skill issue.
>>737584827It's hard to do that for anything humanoid+bipedal in general.
>>737585382I think fitness gyms are FAR more common than furry conventions. You can find a pack of machokes led by a machamp in every city in the world. Furry conventions only happen once a year as a side event to EVO.
>>737585396The point is that you should be able to imagine them as that, not that you should see them like that in game
>>737584827I think some species of pokemon simply don't evolve in the wild without human companionship
meowscarada(male) pawjob
>>737584827really it shouldn't be a pack of Venusaur, but a single Venusaur leading a pack of Ivysaur and Bulbasaur.
>>737584827I’m a Kantofag and even I think this is a stupid rule to go by. It’s not like you can imagine a bunch of hitmonchans or machamps in a herd either without it looks bizarre
>>737584827>imaginepokechuds cannot visualize the apple in their mind they only know memes and porn and metaslavery
>>737584827Here is a refute for you.Solitary animals Exist.There are no packs or herds of Tigers or Foxes.And also Pokemon is a nonsense world and setting for children.
>>737584827>Machoke>Mr Mime>JynxRefuted, get fucked.
>>737585505I can imagine lots of things. It's not hard to copypaste any given pokemon in my mind. If you're not capable of that, mycondolences about your aphantasia.
>>737585139>>737585560Those are shit designs, gen 1 isn't perfect Special designs like that should be reserved for unique Pokemon like Mewtwo or Deoxys
>>737584827Most pokémon don't naturally reach their final evolution in the wild. There should only be like one or maybe two venusaurs who are the leaders of the pack, and the rest are ivysaurs and bulbasaurs.
>>737585219
>>737585596But a colony of tigers or foxes wouldn't look weird the way a bunch of Meowscaradas would >>737585604see >>737585724Also the OP is strictly about final evos
>>737585724>Those are shit designs, gen 1 isn't perfectOr maybe Pokemon just never fit your headcanon
>>737584914Why am I on this site?
>>737585631But does it look weird
>>737584827venosaur are prey animalsmeowscarada is a predatoreat it
>>737584827there's no fuckin wayvenasaur look like absolute bulls that would be territorial as hell and run off any other same sex competition they see
>>737584827KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737585604>Pokemon starter's
>>737584827a group of Venusaur would look out of place in our world as would Meowskarada now in the Pokémon world though? no
>>737585867The image says "feel natural" and a bunch of Venusaurs already doesn't feel natural, see >>737585396What "looks weird" is subjective and mostly a matter of what you're used to. That metric would in practice mean "pokemon designs should be familiar" which is a shit standard to set.
People will do anything to justify the plague of furry jobmon starters because they want to bone them
>>737584827Pretty sure Meowscarada is like Gardevoir where it just walks with the previous evo lines to keep them safe.OP is a faggot btw.
>>737586226more like people will repost anything from twitter to farm attention
>>737586259It's not from twitter, just formatted that way because anons don't click on threads that don't have a twitter screenshot
>>737584827Counterpoint, Pokémon formes and evolution branches can be the product of their environment and level of human influence.
>>737586402Is there even any mechanical difference between a regional variant and a completely distinct species?
>>737585139>>737585219>>737585560>>737585604>>737585724Those aren't starters
>>737585749Messrs. Mime
>>737584827nigga if you can see giant magic frogs with flowers on their backs as natural the green cat can be seen as natural
>>737584827Those Venusaurs don't look natural either, dipshit. They look like unnaturally exact copies of each other, down to the leaf shapes and arrangements with no variety. Can you imagine a pack of giant turtles with 100% perfectly identical-looking trees, located on the exact same place on all their backs, down to the millimeter?Of course not, retard.
>>737585541Yeah that makes more sense. There should barely be any final evos in the wild for that sole reason
bulbasaur girl
>>737585436I meant awkward in public.
>>737586869In the anime they had that valley of Charizards and the most they had was varying sizes and the one with a bow.But OP doesn't care for that, they just want another 'Modern Pokemon sucks' thread.
>>737584827I could see the right as being a part of a gang
>>737586869>he deliberately misses the point to win an imaginary internet argument against a strawman Why is this every /v/ post ive ever read? Are you faggots allergic to genuine debate? I'm not asking you to answer that specifically btw, I already know the answer coming from your faggot ass, but in general: why are you losers such losers lately?
>>737586515one farms nostalgia and the other doesn't
>>737585807Or maybe OP's point was there's a difference between deliberate humanly/unusual outliers to your dex and making them the front-and-center marketing representation (or outright coombait) of your dex.
>>737584827Meowscarada is based on a Lynx, a solitary cat
>>737587318What genuine debate? All I see is some faggot grabbing yet another retarded twitter post and putting it on /v/ because they can't even think for themselves and are completely braindead.
>>737584827so gens 1 and 2 are the only good gens or whatevery gen after has "vaguely humanoid final starter evo"
>>737584827I guess all gen 3 starters are badly designed then
>>737587731Correct, gen 3 was the beginning of the end
>>737587318>Why is this every /v/ post ive ever read?I'm still researching the phenomenon but I think it's an extension of "jew logic" where they think they can defeat an opponent in an argument with tricks like splitting hairs, making up hallucinations or attacking a tangentially related subject you never mentioned. Their Rabbis have apparently won against God in a debate using this so I can only imagine a lack of response or a disgusted stare is what they interpret as a win.
>>737587202Like what, a human-fucking gang?
>>737587812>where they think they can defeat an opponent in an argument with tricks like splitting hairs, making up hallucinations or attacking a tangentially related subject you never mentioned.You mean like "those pokemon don't count because they aren't final evos"
>>737584827I don't like the humanoid Pokemon.The same shit happened to Digimon too, I can't catch a break.
>>737588693I mean the OP image specifically calls out final evos
>>737585159Don't you ever get tired of your SJW shit you inject into every conversation?
>>737588952I care not for brown opinions.
>>737586592Someone will eventually come along and call this a goalpost move but you're correct. Even putting aside the fact that mons like Jynx and Machoke are either human-like already so a society of them is not a jarring idea unlike there being whole tribes of soccer-playing furries, the fact that some of the humanoid mons are urban-dwellers, or the fact that some humanoid mons are solitary, the furry mons being elevated to starters gives them a mascot status and act as hints as to what the quality of the rest of the region mons' designs will look like.>>737587528I think your problem is that you're overthinking it. A lot of people just have this innate understanding of OP's image and no amount of whataboutism concerning mons like Jynx or Machoke discredit its obvious point. And if people seem like they can't articulate it further, that's only because it's actually really hard to further justify something that's just so obvious and true.
>>737587156Loved that episode. Normally I hated it when Ash left a mon with some stranger, but Charizard actually got to come back several times, hell he even got to live at Oak's after BW. Primeape was shafted.
>>737584827These are designed as characters rather than species.
>>737586925Why did Japan make me attracted to Bulbasaur?
>>737584827Cats have no right to exist because they don't look right as a wild herd or flock.
>>737585916Why is it red underwater but orange above water
>>737589464They do tho
if it's not possible to have the mating behavior of a pokemon discussed by David Attenborough without it sounding weird it's a badly designed pokemon
>>737584827Actually correct
>>737589343Him not being in the final tournament of champions was one of the many, many middle fingers the final season had.
>>737589689I can only imagine Geodude sex being described by a cheesy American narrator.>Luckily for her... this dude is ROCK hard
>>737589202Of course anyone who is tired of your canned personality is brown, blue haired, tranny, black, left wing, etc. You're barely a real person.
>>737589974There were already two Jobberzards in that tournament.
>>737589974No Snorlax either, which was actually Ash's most powerful pokemon for a long ass time
>>737584827all object mon and human mon in gen 1 count for this so no, it's easy to refute
>>737590103And one of those was the strongest jobberzard of the world. Perfect for Ash jobberzard to beat and win the title of the strongest jobberzard. Plus they should have givel Leon an eternatus as his final ace in the hole.
>>737590292Those are shit too, the argument is specifically about final evos
>>737587731Genuinely, these starter designs suck for pokemon but are great for a separate IP or maybe even in something like digimon. Very unfortunate they were used in Pokemon.Sometimes a design can be 'good' but suck for the context like 90% of waifumon.
>>737590364There are plenty of those in Gen 1.Clefable, Wigglytuff, Golduck, Alakazam, Machamp, Golem, Magneton, Muk, Gengar, Hypno, Electrode, Exeggutor, Marowak, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Lickitung, Weezing, Rhydon, Chansey, Tangela, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Electabuzz, Magmar, Ditto, Porygon, Mewtwo, Mew.All mons that would look really fucking unnatural in packs and in the wild due to cartoony, amorphous, bipedal, or object like nature. Exeggutor is the only one I'm iffy on because it's a plant mimic but the face seems incredibly unnatural and, frankly, makes it look less like it could be found in natural habitats.None of them even got the proper primate look to at least make them relatable to real world "humanoid" animals.
>>737590951Starter final evos, it's in the OP, and also a lot of the ones you listed look normal in packs
>>737591159>starteroh lolstill retarded because this was widespread design philosophy in gen 1. Also there's no way in hell anyone thinks Blastoise looks "natural" in the wild>also a lot of the ones you listed look normal in packsno. no they don't. most of them might as well be aliens.
>>737589543water darkens things. Red is like a darker orange kinda
Pokemon aren't animals, they're monsters that were heavily influenced by humans, heck Voltorb is specifically designed like a Pokeball. Starters are meant to be suitable choices for a beginner to start their journey with, so something naturally adjusted to humans would make more sense than something more wild. Not saying Meowscarada/Quaquaval/Incineroar are good designs but OP's premise is retarded.>>737586515Species clause so you can't run them together, you can get different types by breeding the same Pokemon together, they can share unique moves/abilities/stat spreads that wouldn't make sense on a new species, and you might feel less bad running a variant of a Pokemon you like as opposed to a completely different one. Cool concept overall, though it's kinda funny how they're going ever further and making functional clones like Wiggler and writing it off as "convergent evolution". The only thing I don't like about regional types is that it often means the original version gets abandoned in favor of the new one (poor Ninetails and Goodra)
>>737589543refraction or some shit don't give it too much thought just grab your dick bro
>>737585916>canonically very rareso what's the problem
>>737584827I always felt that final evolutions should be rare in nature since it requires a strong bond with a trainer to reach a Pokemon's true potential. That's why there's evolutions that only happen with max friendship or with trading.
>>737585834Good question. You should go back.
How is it whenever anywhere brings this topic up, it's filled with tards who know nothing about biology, ecology, character design, or even Pokemon's own fucking lore?
>>737592770It's not arousing though. She's brown.
They're called pocket monsters not pocket animals.
>>737594416pokemon are data who cares
>>737592484>>737594721Not to agree with OP's retarded take, but Pokemon and monsters in general in most RPGs ARE animals. This is baked into Pokemon design and themes, there's a reason why every starter is based on an animal, because that is a core part of Pokemon's identity of humanity living with nature in mutual trust
>>737594780Video games are dataMovies are just framesBooks are just ink on paperBeing reductive doesn't make you smart
>>737584827>uses a solo pic of the pokemon on the right to stealthily bias the assertionOkay but OP hasnt specified or proved why its supposedly awkward. He just asserted that as if it was already true.To me it looks weird as fuck to see a bunch of ivysaur in one place because in the games they are your starter only that you never see in the wild.>>737585219>>737585596Both excellent points which directly refute OP
>>737584914MEMES AND PORN
>>737595212>memes and porn badDo you know which site you're on
>>737586402>Meowth but zestyAlolan mons were a mistake.
>>737584827Why would the alpha animal of an evolution line move as a pack? First and second evos, sure. But not the final.
>>737595360>Meowth>Gay Meowth>Coomer Meowth
>>737591159>>737590951>>737591283NTA but at minimum, Ditto, Golduck, Tangela, Golem, Muk, and Rhydon look perfectly fine in a group/pack.The implication of the OP is really that a naturally occurring group of bipedal Masquerade cats is strange because the pokemon looks like it was designed with an inbuilt identity. It's not a creature that simply 'exists' it its world, it has an inbuilt culture and aesthetic and personality and look that gives the impression that if you were to see 10 of these all handing around each other in the wild it's be like seeing 10 humans in identical suits and haircuts and mustaches walking around a forest. It's just uncanny.It doesn't even have the benefit of being a strange-mon by design like Mr. Mime or Jynx so there's a Yokai folktale angle.
>>737595212Based>>737595306Fag
>>737595664>wtf why do all Machamp want to be bodybuildersNot any of those anons but it’s not a reasonable complaint it’s just autism about what it “should” be while selectively ignoring what it is
>>737584827this image is implying that humanoids would look 'unnatural' in a group, and i don't know if you've looked outside but that's pretty obviously wrong
>>737595784>wtf why do all Machamp want to be bodybuilders>Not any of those anons but it’s not a reasonable complaint it’s just autism about what it “should” be while selectively ignoring what it isI think this is a fair enough criticism, but I do think it's less strange that a bunch of pokemon enjoy picking up and tossing large boulders around and grooming themselves (which is characterized humorously as being perfect bodybuilder bro's) compared to cats that are all highly designed masquerade ball cats or soccer playing rabbits.If I really had to key in on the distinction it's that some traits feet significantly more 'artificial' and the result is a more contrived feeling design sensibility. It's like the difference between Vanilluxe or Garbodor and Muk. Are they all just piles of environmental "stuff" come to life? Yes, but to many people there's an artifice that appears when the design incorporates such specifically human trappings.People always found Hitmonchan's boxing gloves and skirt to be odd as a gen 1 example.
>>737596520For me, it's simple designs like Eevees, Ninetales and Growlithe.
>>737586925why is she fat
I like my beautiful water snek that had to be beautiful to evolveMan it's so weird they only did that once.
>>737597097Too much sunlight
>>737597143It's not weird at all when you realize gamefreak constantly adds and removes game mechanics because they only have barely enough budget to include only the latest and most marketable gimmick each generation.
>>737584827I can imagine a bunch of these guys on a stage doing magic tricks easily
>>737597638They actually use magic to hunt, so it makes sense.
>>737597589You're obviously suffering from derangement syndrome and don't want to hear this, but in general games intentionally don't include every gimmick in their franchise in order to prevent gameplay bloat, not because of budget
>>737597786let's just ignore the leaks then lmao>derangement syndromeonly a modern pokedrone could be so defensive
>>737584827Dragons aren't exactly known to be herd creatures whenever they're depicted in fantasy, they're generally too prideful for pack behavior.
Time to post the BEST pokemon.
>>737584960Pokemon's problem is that it's not a full on fantasy world, it's urban fantasy in a world heavily based on the real world, so all these humanoid creatures stick out
>>737584827Mr. Mime?
>>737595212>>737595781stop replying to yourself, FAG
>>737585834Leave.
Amazing pokemon comin through!
>>737598012>>737598104Now post the massive hot dragon one
>>737598187But i like the dino plant more. We really dont see enough grass types in these threads honestly.You post the hot dragon
>>737585396Whole packs of Weavile live and hunt together.
>>737598532This is a pokemon thread sir. Cant you stop posting digimon please.
if the pokemon isnt mewtwo or is post gen3, and its bipedal, its shit. plain and simple
>>737596520As a kid, I always just assumed wild Hitmonchans didn't have the gloves and skirts and were given them by humans so they wouldn't hurt human sparring partners or something, similar to how Machamp gets a belt so they don't accidentally punch a skyscraper down or something other retarded Gen 1 power scaling thing.
>>737584827the starters are supposed to be rare which is why you can't catch them in the wild. Having them be solitary makes sense.
>>737597786It's the equivalent of adding stone evolution with five different stones that do actually have other uses but only having one Pokemon actually use one of them to evolve>"So when are we getting a psychic type that needs smarts to evolve?"The answer was never. This shit wasn't immediately abandoned either
>>737598623
>>737584827So basically>4 legs good, 2 legs bad
>>737585749>France as entered the chat
>>737599037No, 2 legs is fine if it doesn't look humanoid, see >>737598915 and >>737598007
>>737584827I can imagine that image on the right as a herd... when me and them make about 20x more minimum.
>>737584827They were supposed to look like cool and cute animals with a more vague monster aesthetic. They were never all meant to be human like in their body proportions. That was supposed to really only be the psychic types such as Jynx and Mr. Mime but of course retards will not understand this. This includes Gamefreak itself. Psychic were the strongest in gen 1 and it kind of made sense since they were like the most intelligent of the Pokemon using mind powers while the others had elements tied to them. These new cringe pokemon constantly have that human-like quality or they have ridiculous proportions that do not look possible irl.Anyone that disagrees with the pic in the OP is a massive faggot retard incapable of intelligent thought.
>>737587156that's normal for lizards
>>737598646I dunno man this is a recent bipedal pokemon and i think its great
>walk out into the tall grass with no pokemon>a pack of pic related abducts me to be their new stress relief toyit would be based .............so much tight teen pokepussy..............
>>737584963Anon, stop that! You're ruining a perfectly good narrative!
>>737584827Not exactly right as plenty of animals don't flock, but there's a kernel of truth here in that a lot of pokemon that should be more animal-y really aren't like they shouldpokemon could really use more ecological considerations with their pokemon designs and conceptions, though they've been off and on about being good about this for some time probably for ever
>>737584827>if your fictional monster with superpowers doesn't look or behave EXACTLY like a real life wild animal then it's a bad design
>>737584827I only watched the anime as a kid, but are the pokemon always so copy/pasted? Like there are no unique defining features between the Venusaurs. It looks really cheap, actually. I guess the spots on their petals are a little bit different? Are there any pictures of a "herd" of pokemon where you can tell each one is different from the other?
>>737599710Gods she's so cute.
>>737584827some animals are solitary
>>737600315The franchise as a whole tends to stay on-model for the sake of merchandising, very rarely will you see visual distinction unless it's a special case like Ash's Pikachu needing to stand out from other Pikachu.Thus, outside of wild herds, it's actually pretty rare to see two or more of the same Pokemon onscreen, since they don't want to confuse the toddlers on who's who.
>>737600315>nown to be herd creatures whenever they're depicted in fantasy, they're generally too prideful for pack behavioClosest you'll get is the sex differences and only some pokemon get those
>>737584827the problem is that they all look the same with zero variation. imagine how bizarre going outside would be if everyone just looked like this with ZERO variation
>>737599710
>>737600315Well yeah, they're a species. They'll look about the same
>>737584827pocket monsters should be actual animal monsters not some gay furry humanoid shithitmonlee and hitmonchan are the exception because they are aliens, mewtwo was also an experiment by humans so it's fitting for it to be more humanoid
>>737600428Hey now. 1 in 4000 is wearing a lime green shirt
>>737600524Have you actually never seen more than one individual of animal in your entire life? Get a dozen black cats and they will all look different. Go to the zoo, the monkeys are not copy/pasted. Just like humans, animals can have different facial structures. I genuinely don't understand how you can actually think this. Are you just some weirdo who needs to defend his favorite franchise?
>>737585139>JynxThey gather in icy caves and sing together like a group of sirens
>>737587156I miss when a bow and eyelashes were prime 'This is a female' indicators in cartoons.
>>737584827>solitary animals dont exist>all starters HAVE to be social creatures
>>737598349Dinosom's big brother, always looking out for her.
>>737600801Trannies and women complained about it so we'll never see those again.
>>737600727A bit. Not enough that you'd particularly draw it in the abstraction of animation beyond minor details or proportion differences.
Post your face when you don't have starter autism and treat them like every other pokemon in the fucking game.
>>737589343I can't understand the reverence for Ash's CharizardCharizard LOST Ash the Indigo Plateau tournament by refusing to fight. He was a liability for almost the entire period he was with Ash after evolving into a Charmeleon. Let him leave, he didn't want to be there!
>>737584827Magician cat is a anthro furry. Doesn't even look like a proper animal.
>>737601103HE WAS THERE FROM THE FUCKING START YOU ASSHOLEYOU THINK YOU'RE ANYBODY? YOU THINK YOU MATTER?YOU ONLY MATTER BECAUSE HE WAS THEREYOUR ASS ISN'T MAKING IT OUT OF ROUTE FUCKING ONE WITHOUT HIM BEATING UP BIRDS AND RATSAND YOU DARE TO DISRESPECT HIM? BOX HIM?YOU DISLOYAL MOTHERFUCKERYOU'D BOX YOUR MOTHER THE MOMENT SHE SQUEEZED YOUR INSIPID ASS OUT IF YOU COULDPEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE NO FUCKING SHAMEIN A JUST WORLD YOU'D BE BOXED
>>737601103dance with the one that brought you you fucking freak
>>737599438There's been humanoids since gen 1.See: >>737585219There's never been a humanoid-free Pokemon world.
>>737584827I can't picture a pack of Eeveelutions, so basically your argument crumbles over the very Kanto starter shill you're currently doing.
>>737601103>I always go for the most useful type matchups and the highest level available pokemon I have.>Coincidentally my starter is useful for the first three gyms at 2nd stage evo anyway.>mfw me and my level 47 Infernape are still doing wonders this playthrough.GG no re
>>737601773I just spammed return on my venusaur all game and it never died once. I don't think you need to do all that to beat the game unless you're doing some challenge run or romhack.
>>737584914>He would have sex with a nine-tailed pagan godweak
>>737584827>I genuinely can't refute it, it's impossibleIt's possible, you're just blind.
>>737585170That's not a natural thing. Small cats are still solitary in the wild.
>>737601951She's SO PRETTY.
>Litten is a kitten>Torracat is an adult cat>Incineroar is a bipedal extremely muscular cat with a title belt Make it make sense.
>>737601854Or unless you're playing Gen5, which you will replace your starter for Stoutland due to having the worst starter trio in the franchise and spam Return, Crunch, Wild Charge and Superpower.
>>737602189Only game I boxed my starter immediately was Gen 3 because I hated all three choices.
>>737584827>all animals live in packs
>>737601956>We STILL don't have a Steevee
>>737585396This. Like that episode where all the bulbasaurs turned up to see a venusaur at a tree. Final Evos should be a very small minority.
>>737584827>>>/vp/go back brown
>>737584827He’s correct.There are many solo animals that move by themselves though.
>>737588952Idk he’s kind of correct.Coomers have done a lot of damage to that series.
You all are idiots and are missing the pointIt's not (just) about Pokemon being bipedal or humanoid (after all, so was Blaziken), it's that every starter is now designed as a character rather then a creatureYou can have bipedal or even humanoid creature designs. But when each starter is themed after a specific occupation with acessories and shit, it's harder to buy them as a whole species of creature.
>>737604010I'm with the newfags on this one, you can't give Pokémon like Jynx and Mr. Mime a pass. Name one good humanoid Pokémon.
>>737603551The fact that they're not making new evos each gen is criminal. Hope Gen 10actually makes a new one.
>>737604056Nyoooooooooooo starters am SPECIALS!! Starters ONLY pokemon that matter!!
>>737584827Not all animals roam in packs though.
>>737604206Blaziken is just a chicken that grows vertically.
>>737584827>he can't imagine a meowscarada stalking a guy in the middle of the woods seconds before she rapes himbrother we already solved that issue with gardevoir in 2002 what are you blabbering about
>>737584827This deviantart bipedal fursuit piece of garbage ruined Pokémon forever
>>737584827I made this argument in gen 7 on /vp/ about incineroar and saw two guys really go at it for hours
>>737606986she cute
>>737586925heracross male
>>737604056>Name one good humanoid Pokémon.Hatterene, Hattrem, and hattena. I can easily imagine them abducting people and beating the shit out of them and then dragging their unconscoous, battered bodies back to hatterene rape caves where they rape people to death like the sadistic land dolphins they are.
Why do genwunners continue to seethe about a franchise they stopped enjoying 30 years ago? People like to rag on fans who are still attached to a property well into their adulthood, but I respect it far, FAR more then people who STOP liking something, but continue to complain about it well into their 40s. Fucking move on, find something you actually LIKE talking about.
>>737609294I enjoyed gens 1-7
I've only played pokemon red and gold. Mudkip meme was fun and all but at gen 3 I had lost interest
>>737584827Aren't starters supposed to be some special snowflake? unless they changed it in later games you never see starters in the wild
>>737584827>>737586592Why would the argument be limited to starters. Those monsters aren't even found in the wild, of course they'd not evolve to adapt to wildlife. If anything it is the starters who should evolve to be adapted to human civilisation.
>>737601625KEK
>>737595074>Both excellent points which directly refute OPMime isn't a starter and it's easy to imagine tigers living in packs
>>737601718It's about starter evos
>>737585596Its actually pretty rare for a fox to live a solitary life. While they hunt alone, they tend to nest in small family packs.
>>737601956i got an idea for the next eeveelution>new game has feature to release pokemon anywhere>release a fainted eevee at pokecemetery>recieve ethereon
>>737584827>solitary animals don't exist in nature and you can't use them for startersstupid take reposted by stupid people
>>737584827How is this not possible? It‘s just a cat. If you can imagine a flock of zards, swamperts, embroars, grooky3 or cinderaces why wouldn‘t you do for cats?
>>737612094Imo it looks like it has a distinct personalityIt feels more like a character than a creature, similar to the thread's previously mentioned hitmon-duo, machamp, incineroar, serperior tooThere's so many bad pokemon from every gen
reminder that they had to change the argument to starter final evos only because they got absolutely BTFO'ED before
>>737589543Because AI
>>737584827if it has a hole it can be fucked, end of the question
I just hate the floating flower
>>737600419It's funny you say that when in the new anime, Horizons, have a Lapras with multiple scars on it's body.
>>737585219They should have their own villages, deep in the woods where humans rarely travel.
>>737604056>Pokémon like Jynx and Mr. MimeTheir designs give Yokai vibes, if the magician cat of football rabbit were more folktale-esque in design they would get a pass too.
>>737585219Mr.Mime has always been a bad design
>>737611741Can you imagine solitary animals in packs/herds? Is imagining a flock of eagles as weird to you as imagining a herd of football-playing anthropomorphic rabbits?
>>737587812>>737587318whitepill postskeep calling out the childish jewish nature of many /v/ posters
>>737585219I don't dislike Mr. Mime, but it's a terrible name. Even if you disregard the fact that they have a 50/50 gender split (or maybe Mr Mimes just have a huge troon ratio), the fact it has a title so out of place.Yeah, Sirfetch'd is a portmanteau of "Sir" and "Farfetched", but it isn't "Sir Fetch'd", The Sir part isn't an honorific. The Japanese name is "Barrierd" and the Germans use "Pantimos", but the French, Spanish, Italian, and Brazilian Portuguese names all use their equivalent of "Mr."
>>737601103>Anyone who complains about bad character design in a video game must have mental health problems
>>737587480They failed.
>>737619058Seriously, looks nothing like it.
>The best designed evolutions for starters is Gen 1, 3, and 4>Nothing has come closeHow.
>a gang of like 35 blastoise just cruising the the ocean and being complete menaceshehhehheh
>>737612980retard https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/109508952
>>>/vp/
>>737619142gen 4 is when the starter evo designs turned to overdesigned slop. absolutely nothing has changed since then. meanwhile gen 1-3 evos had the appropriate amount of detail. the difference is staggering if you look at them side by side.
>>737584827Nah, it's retarded because they aren't animals, they're monsters.Monsters don't have to follow the rule of packs
>>737618948A starter is just another pokemon.
>>737598028>heavily based on the real worldIt really isn't. You'd have a point if you were talking about something like Earthbound but not pokemon.
>>737597097more sex appeal
>>737586402Alolan Meowth/Persian were the greatest thing to have ever happen to Pokemon.I love this goofy-looking motherfucker like you wouldn't believe.
>>737620253Yeah you're right, Kanto is definitely not literally based on Kanto, and Sinnoh is definitely not literally based on Hokkaido, and Hoenn is definitely not literally based on Kyushu, and Johto is certainly not literally based on the Kansai region.Retard.
>>737620402>blue zesty catMeh, no reason for regional variants in my opinion. Just a lazy method to use a cut design because it was "too close" to another.
>>737584827Does this nigga not know about solitary animals or what
>>737586925sexo..
>>737620102Gen 6 doesn’t look that over designed neither is Gen 8 aside from scorbunny
>>737620460Imagine calling people retarded when your only argument is that they have the same names and vaguely take its shape as a whole. Meanwhile in reality none of those regions are as developed as their real life counterparts with many not even having real roads, just routes with an abundance of wildlife.Next time actually make a comparison, retard.
>>737584827I can totally imagine a pack of those guys on the right. Think 'werewolves' not 'humans.'
>>737584827a game with a herd of venusaur or torterra walking around would pretty coola shame pokemon is shackled by being tied to gamefreak
>>737621639Yeah we get it, you're a retard. And you are too stupid to see how fucking retarded you are.Just take the L like a man instead of digging yourself deeper, it's embarrassing.
>>737587731the only one I can't imagine in the wild is Blaziken. Swampert lives in ponds and Sceptile is arboreal
>>737621175sure, i agree that some are less overdesigned than others.however, the main source of the overdesign comes from all those cluttered trims and decals, and that's a design trend that visibly kicked off in gen 4.
>>737584827I was thinking about a similar thing recently. I hate how Pokemon has leaned so hard on "jobmon"s in the last few generations where Pokemon are less weird creatures and are now animal+human job+(not but required)fuckable.
>>737584827I dont think this really works since wild fully evolved Pokemon are supposed to be rare.
>>737586515Species clause like the other anon mentioned, but they also share a resource for whenever there's a species specific item, like candy in Pokémon Go or Pokémon Sleep.There are also Pokémon that are the same across locations, but their evolutions differ, like Pikachu and Cubone into Alolan variants.>>737592484Convergent evolution is the idea that two things that share no ancestry both arrive at the same conclusion, usually due to environmental factors and being able to fill an ecological niche.Part of that idea is looking at foxes, canines they fill a similar role to cats and as a result have a number of traits we associate with felines.
>>737584827>I genuinely can't refute it, it's impossibleYou are straight up bad at arguing your point then.Not every animal IRL is a pack animal. There, done.
>>737622221You're like the 20th person ITT saying this but I don't see how that refutes the pointFor the record I don't agree with OPs pic but it says: >starters final evo should reasonably be flock/herd/etc animals or they're bad That's certainly an opinion but nowehre does it say>all animals are flock animals, prove me wrong!>all pokemons need to be flock animals, prove me wrong! He's just saying that starter final evos should be. It's a weird opinion he has but it's a perfectly fine opinion to have, holy fuck the average literacy on this board is so fucking bad.
>>737584827Not every animal forms packs, herds or flocks.
>>737624912The argument is that it's not natural if there's not a flock of them and the refutation is that not every animal in real nature does that.
>>737625230Can you imagine a flock of them and have it not look stupid?
>>737625331Does a crowd of humans look stupid?
>>737625331This has never been a tenant of Pokemon design though can you imagine a herd of Hypno?
>>737625359Should humans be Pokemon?
>>737625429What is it that makes this one look stupid in a group if not it being humanoid?
>>737625404You're just convincing me Psychic Pokémon were a mistake.
>>737625404It doesn't have to be a tenant to be true
>>7375848275 meowscarada 1 nessa
>>737584827You can’t refute it because it’s entirely subjective. He’s declared that Pokemon should all be animalistic even though that was never the case and there have always been ones that look completely out-of-place in nature.
>>737625468Exactly, humans should not be Pokemon
>>737625404tenet*. Tenant is somebody who rents a house.
>>737625631Why?
>>737584827What's the point of this? There's simpler ways to piss and cry about Pocket MONSTERS being bipedal.
>>737625620This is specifically about starter evos, no one's denying e.g. Voltorb's place in the Pokemon universe but would you endorse a game where one starter looks like Voltorb and another looks like Eternamax Eternatus
>>737625689It's in the name, Pocket Monsters, not Pocket Humans
>>737625752So a vampire isn't a monster then?
>>737625785Do you want a vampire to be a Pokemon
>>737625831Or a werewolf, or a zombie, or a wraith, or ghost, or a demon or a harpy, or a siren, or a merman and so on and so on and so on.
>>737625901I see you haven't answered my question
>>737625921What's wrong with a vampire pokemon?
>>737625945the Zubat line
>>737584827Not all animals form packs. The image is a really bad example since most big cats don't form packs.
>>737626010So nothing then.
>>737625945If you think this would be an acceptable Pokemon design then we fundamentally disagree on what a Pokemon should look like
>>737626046From what I can gather is your entire sperg out is over it having two legs sperg.
>>737625712That’s also entirely subjective. “Starter evos should look like they’d appear in nature”. Why? Because the first gen had no humanoid mons? It also had a dragon. You don’t see those in nature. Also Blaziken was created in gen 3, which was before most of this board was even born, so you can’t say it wasn’t part of the vision of what a starter was from a very early stage of this franchise.There’s no consistent objective reason for his belief, but people treat it like more than just his personal opinion.
>>737625831Already is.
>>737626046Tell me the humanoid starter that looks exactly like a human or this point is meaningless.
These people would look at Godzilla and scream "WHY ARE THERE SO MANY BIPEDAL HUMANOID MONSTERS?!". Pocket MONSTERS can look like whatever the fuck the person creating them wants them to be. Pocket MONSTERS are not real, don't need to follow the natural laws, and can take any shape or style needed or wanted by their creator.
>>737584827many cats are solitary
>>737590380I cant believe you used the word waifumon without cringing like a colossal faggot
>>737585472
>>737626089>>737626312This was your argument, why are you getting mad I pointed it back at you
>>737626214If you can't tell the difference between what you posted and >>737626046 then you're in no position to be arguing aesthetics
>>737626896So you have no point then. Nobody said that pokemon should look just like humans, we said that they can be humanoid and inspired by human monsters.
>>737626136>That’s also entirely subjective. Why?Because that look has proven itself to be the best fir for the type of role they play >Blaziken was created in gen 3The first shitty gen
>>737585541iirc that was the way in S1, when they started to evolve they had to gather around one massive Venusaur deep in the forest.
>>737627001>point your own argument back at you>"so you have no point"I believe this means you're conceding
>>737626960See>>737627001You made up an argument that nobody was making and now you’ve upset yourself over it.
>>737627064You sure are mad about the argument you yourself put forward
>>737627062See >>737627064>>737627008Both subjective opinions, not based in any objective metric.
>>737627116See >>737627064Point to where I said that Pokemon should look like actual humans. When you fail to do so, I’ll direct you back here.
>>737584827But I can imagine a group of meowscarada very easily. Gathered around a pond frolicking, smelling flowers, chasing around sprigatito for fun, taking naps. It's quite a lovely mental image actually
>>737627119>>737627189I don't know what to tell you anon, having this level of cognitive dissonance can be an early sign of mental illness
>>737627223>*failed to point to where I said Pokemon should look like actual humans*Thought so. Directing you back here: >>737627189
>>737627302see >>737625945
>>737627334“Vampire” doesn’t mean “looks exactly like a human”. Saying Hitmonchan is a “boxer pokemon” or Meowscarada is a “magician pokemon” is not incorrect. Those are aspects of their design and doesn’t imply that being a literal human is also part of their design.I’m curious how you’ll react after your assertion has crumbled. Will you double down? Probably.
>>737627621Nice deflection, unfortunately for you this was always a thread about looks, and vampires look like this >>737626046
Holy shit, why are you guys being so autistic about this? One group doesn't like humanoid designs, one group does. Why are you all shitting your pants about it?
>>737627727There’s the double down.Well, we all know that you’ve realized your error and are just trying to save face now. Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
>>737584827>points to Charizard
>>737585219Everyone joked back in the day how shit Mr mime and jinx were, no one liked them.Truth is if you compare designs in Pokemon without previously knowing they are pokemons, you wouldn't believe they are from the same saga, they look like a collage
>>737627863You would be destroyed by a high school debate club.
>>737627863Deflect all you want but you already said this >>737626046 would be an acceptable Pokemon design
>>737584827Not all animals are herd animals.Cats in particular usually just raise their young and then the young fuck off to live on their own.Lions living in packs, but for the most part you don't see packs of tigers or bobcats prowling the woods.
>>737627957This.
>>737627964>but for the most part you don't see packs of tigers or bobcats prowling the woods.But if you did they wouldn't look as silly as a pack of Meowscaradas or Cinderaces
>>737627946>>737627957Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
>>737628019Why would those look silly?
>>737618528>Is imagining a flock of eagles as weird to you as imagining a herd of football-playing anthropomorphic rabbits?Footie teams are herds by default, anon.I have no issue imagining a team of Cinderace.
>>737628047Reflect on your lack of self-reflection
I hate how pokefags debate on bad faith like leftists, not understanding language and common sense and pretending to ignore and corrupt definitions.Makes sense I guess because many leftists are pokefags. You all know what people mean by being in packs and the whole deal with animal vs furrsona pokemon designs, you act in bad faith.
>>737625230He's saying if it doesn't seem natural for the starter final evos to be in a flock they're bad. Retorting "but not all animals are in a flock or herd" is completely irrelevant. He never said solitary animals don't exist, he even implicitly aknowledges that some pokemon would be solitary by singling out final starter evos.
>>737628083>>I have no issue imagining a team of Cinderace.What are they doing in their natural habitat
(I’ll direct you back to the post that dismantled your assertion every 30 minutes or so, feel free to respond to it all you want, you won’t be getting the last word you so crave even as you refresh the thread every 5 seconds for the rest of the day)
>>737628157>>737628118Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
He's crashing out
>>737628057Their outward appearance is not monstrous or animalistic in a way that you would find in nature, they look like they're part of a race that achieved civilization, which makes it seem like you're enslaving human-like races rather than domesticating pets
They're cartoon monsters, they can look like whatever the fuck they want. Did you people lose your donkey-fucking shit over all the humanoid Pokemon in Gen 1?
>>737628363So you're saying it's weird to see groups of humans.
>>737628373They sure can, they will look like shit and not fit into the universe but they absolutely can
>>737628441I'm saying that a kid-friendly monster raising adventure game shouldn't have you enslaving humans or civilized humanoids to use in battle as pets
>>737628454How do they not fit into the universe?
>>737628590
>>737584827I can't imagine tigers as pack animals either.
>>737628713Can you imagine an apple
>>737628019Yeah it looks silly, but no sillier than the idea of a flock of Dragonite or Tyranitar or any other rare pokemon would look. The game does not imply that at any point that they are a herd animals in the pokedex, and nor does the open world seem to imply as such.In the open world animals that make sense to be found as identical herds or packs like Bidoof and Tauros are. Animals that have one leader/mother than overlook their young/subordinates, i.e Bisharp w/ Pawniard or Honchcrow w/ Murkrow, are found as such. Animals that make more sense to be found roaming around on their own, i.e a Dragonite or a Lucario, are found as such.Pokemon are not ever implied to be only herd animals.
>>737584827>every animal lives in a pack
>>737628318Too scared to reply directly I see.Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
>>737628802>>Yeah it looks silly, but no sillier than the idea of a flock of Dragonite or Tyranitar or any other rare pokemon would look.Not really, it's easy to imagine animalistic Pokemon in nature, not the ones that look like they're wearing human clothes
>>737585219Bonjour!
>>737628976You point was about how silly it would be to find them in a pack.This is what I'm arguing against, not that humanoid/anthropomorphic Pokemon in the wild are strange. That is a separate issue I'd somewhat agree with you on, but that's not where this conversation started.
>>737629106Yes putting multiple Pokemon that all look like they're wearing the exact same human clothes next to each other is what would expose the silliness, that's what's implied by "in nature"
>>737584914The downside is you'd be a disgusting furfag for that.
>>737585319I once saw like 6-7 cats hanging around in an alley, it was weird but they often did funny stuff
>>737628636Lmao
>>737600428>imagine how bizarre going outside would be if everyone just looked like this with ZERO variationso just women wearing the same fotm brand shit?
>>737584963But feral cats live in colonies, and lots of wild cat species live in groups like lions.
>>737628636They're still animals. The problem you people have is thinking that everything is exactly like a human.
>>737589543Most zoomer post of the day.
>>737629825So you don't see anything ridiculous with that screenshot
>>737584963Cats live in absolutely massive colonies, like "pack" sizes in the triple digits, you fucking retard
Now he’s too scared to reply at all, huh? Boring. No matter.Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
>>737629659Women are extremely bizarre creatures
>>737584827This is bothering me a lot. What the fuck is the flying grass next to the thing on the right? It's like putting a floating thunderbolt next to Pikachu to remind you it's an electric type.
>>737630329It's a magic trick
>>737584827>It would be weird if the humanoid creature on two legs lived in a pack, I cant imagine it>Says the primate descendant that walks on two legs and exists almost exclusively in packs
>>737629218But you'd have the sex...
>>737629197You are continuing to misinterpret my argument. Not all Pokemon pack or herd animals and at no point does the game or Pokedex imply so.Those that do are explicitly said to do so in the pokedex and are shown to do so in the game's world as a rare form of this series having actual story-gameplay integration. For those Pokemon, they're designed in such a way that gang behavior or pack hierarchy looks natural.I do not care what fantasy the anime sold you on 25 years ago, but if the game does not tell or show you that the bara Wrestler Tiger lives in packs, then it's retarded to critique the idea of it looking stupid because you thinking they "should".The issue of wether the bara tiger looks natural as a wild animal is a SEPARATE issue.
>>737630467You can have sex without being a furfagIf you want to empty your balls there is absolutely zero hard requirements on the receiving creature being a fucking cat
>>737630474>You are continuing to misinterpret my argument. That's only because you already did the same to mine>Not all Pokemon pack or herd animals and at no point does the game or Pokedex imply so.I did not say this, I did say however that a successful Pokemon design should be able to be imagined in a pack or a herd and still look natural, the way solitary animals IRL can be If the Pokemon isn't unique for whatever reason like being a legendary and looks silly when there's multiples of the same one in the same place, it's a failed design even if it's meant to be solitary
>>737585219>Mr. Mime is meant to be a mime>has a cry like all the other pokemonwhat did they mean by this
>>737630670>>737618816All that matters is the japanese nameBarrierdo because it makes invisible walls like a magical mime. The Mr is just english translators throwing shit at the wall at 3am (true story)
>>737630628>If the Pokemon isn't unique for whatever reason like being a legendary and looks silly when there's multiples of the same one in the same place, it's a failed design even if it's meant to be solitaryOk but anon Pokemon has NEVER operated on the design philosophy you want it to operate on so this framework you’re operating from doesn’t really matter, a group of hypnotist tapir things is not inherently more or less ridiculous than a group of wrestling tigers
>>737630814That's not relevant to the argument, it applies to the silly designs from gen 1 as well, they can fail at fulfilling the premise they set out for themselves
>>737630926>Failing at my retarded interpretation of what they intended that I invented entirely on my own
>>737630768Actually it was argued among staff. They wound up choosing "Mr" because it was the most human looking pokemon at the time, but Nob Ogasawara debated up until the very end it was a terrible name because "what if they add genders in a future game". There's actually leaked dev notes where they had to mention it was fought over but they were doing it anyway.
>>737630974Their intentions are clear from the games though, almost every line of text, context, and worldbuilding supports the design philosophy that humanoid civilized Pokemon make no sense If they suddenly let you imprison humans and use them for battle, or shoot Pokemon with a gun, it wouldn't somehow work with the tone of the games just because it was done officially
Now he’s too scared to reply at all, huh? Boring.No matter.Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
>>737631061Doesn't make sense given they already had male and female Pokémon with different names (nidorino and nidorina) so they could also do "Mr" and "Mrs" Mime.
>>737631061Even more reason to disregard the English name. I grew up with the English translation so ofc I have an attachment to them too, but its not 1998 anymore. The world is smaller, we have translation tools, we can learn Japanese. There's no reason to play a game we like through the lens of a localiser anymore
>>737631097Explain how exactly. You won't and will just do some more handwaving.
>>737628789Yes, goyim, stop using pop-science for litmus tests.
>>737630628>I did not say this, I did say however that a successful Pokemon design should be able to be imagined in a pack or a herd and still look natural, the way solitary animals IRL can be You immediately contradicted the statement you were responding to.>>Not all Pokemon pack or herd animals and at no point does the game or Pokedex imply so.Seeing solitary animals together occasionally isn't weird, they have to breed and raise young at some point, and I can imagine the same thing happening with 2 Tyranitars crossing into their territory. However a large group of solitary animals consistently being together like a pack is extremely bizarre.Picture a school of 10 Great Whites hunting like wolves to bring down a whale like giant piranhas. If that seems fucking stupid, that's the same reason you aren't going to see a pack of Gyarados ruling over a lake like a mafia.
>>737631264>say your game is about a comfy childhood adventure for all ages >include things that conflict with the intended comfy childhood tone like imprisoning humanoids and treating them like animals It's very clear from my previous posts
>>737630628>looks silly when there's multiples of the same one in the same place, it's a failed design even if it's meant to be solitaryThis argument is retarded. Humanoid designs are bad but this isn't the reason why. You need to get over this
>>737631349>You immediately contradicted the statement you were responding to.I didn't >Picture a school of 10 Great Whites hunting like wolves to bring down a whale like giant piranhas.Works for me, great whites look like naturally occurring animals and not unique humans with outfits
>>737631368Having a "comfy childhood adventure" has literally no bearing at all on some pokemon being humanoid.
>>737585749>GREAT>MILENKO>(HA HAHAHA HAAA)
>>737611281Its easy to imagine meowscara living in packs too so whats your point?
>>737630768>like a magical mimeI wonder if they ever considered 'Magimime' as a name.
I fixed pokemon
>>737631443It does if you're capable of thinking of the implications of imprisoning species that look like they're part of a civilization
>>737631453You take 4chan way too seriously brah
>>737631543Well then that directly contradicts them looking like they shouldn't be a part of a group.
>>737631194Every gender Nido is different pokedex number.
>>737631626OK, and? You can do that for Mrs Mime if you really want to. They did it for Galade as well now that I think about it.
>>737585749I miss Horde EncountersThey were fun
>>737631623I think you fundamentally don't understand what this thread is about
>>737584827The one on the left is a toad/ frog. I know there are videos of them in groups. I've never personally seen more then one at a time. Also serperior is badly designed as any snake starter would be as they are mostly solitary. The argument is fucking terrible as it excludes any starter that not an animal and further and adds further limitations of that animal being one with a family structure.
>>737584827anybody else unironically thinks left is sexier than right?
>>737631735Nope. The thread states that this humanoid pokemon is bad because it doesn't look like it should be in a herd. You then claim that humanoid pokemon are bad because it looks like it's part of a civilization. A civilization is a herd at its core so these points directly contradict.
>>737631453So is this why so many older Pokémon fans obsess over gen 2? Because they see it as the last stand before their beloved wholesome Ghibli animal-adventure series got ruined by furfags, similar to the other completely furry-free video game series known as Crash Bandicoot?
>>737631837Not being aware of the difference between a herd and civilization confirms my suspicion that you fundamentally don't understand what this thread is about
>>737631947They are at a basic level the same thing. Humans are pack animals.
>>737631690But why? That's some english only nonsense, Japan doesn't care.
>>737632036Well then we can do what we want.
>>737602007>That's not a natural thing. Small cats are still solitary in the wild.Domestic Cats are "communal". They'll share their living and resting spaces with other cats they trust but will otherwise strike out on their own the rest of the time.
>>737631839My favorite is gen 2 but I still like some of the newer mons. My favorite dragon didn't exist until kalos.Not sure why there's an obsession with generalization on the internet. I know broad strokes get the fence painted faster and all but it makes you look incompetent most of the time.
>>737584827imagine a pack of Meowscarada on your bed
>>737631984They absolutely aren't
>737632142>denies that he's a faggot on /vp/>always post gay Meowscarada pics anyway
>>737632187Yes we are. We are animals just like the rest of them. We're not special in that regard and we share many of the same traits.
>>737584914having sex with a dude wearing an animal costume is more awkward than plapping a giant dinosaur
>>737632256Anon don't say silly things because you're mad you lost the argument
>>737632272That's frog dude. Having warts on your dick is awkward regardless of the source.
>>737632354Quite the opposite faggot. You have been exposed about having many fundamental misunderstandings about our biology.
>>737631698Shame about them running at 3FPS
>>737632256Animals are not known for wearing the skin of dead things, or setting fire to what they kill before eating it.
>>737584914Gen 4 might be the worst gen because it's when the franchise started openly pandering to furry faggots like you.
>>737632890Neither of those things have anything to do with being part of a herd. Group dynamics and phycology. Even us all gathering here as a community is part of it dummy.
He lost the argument so hard he’s terrified to reply lmao.Your entire assertion has been dismantled by this post >>737627621. No reason to engage further beyond directing you back to it.
Goddamn I don't know who is more retarded and pathetic itt, the pokefuckers or the shills.
>>737633046Goal post movement detected.
>>737633197Nope, pointing out that we are engaging in herd behaviour right at this very moment is directly on point.
>>737584914> without it being awkwardSkill issue.I can make it awkward with the one on the right without any problem.
>>737633165>who is more retarded and pathetic ittOP.
OP’s posts are very similar to Kojo’s. >make retarded assertion>get btfo’d>double down on assertion and just pretend it still holds water>repeat, foreverI wouldn’t be surprised if it’s him, even though it would be at odds with his Gen 6 hyperfixation.
>>737629865No. It's a monster, a creature, that isn't human. In the wild it forages for food like all the others do. With a trainer/owner it's fed like any other pet.
>>737630926>the premise they set out for themselvesCan you link to the interview where Masada mentioned this?
Did OP finally get tired of being humiliated and run away?
>>737633742>In the wild it forages for food like all the others doYou just described half of Africa.>It's a monster, a creature, that isn't humanAnon, no!>With a trainer/owner it's fed like any other petWell, yes, but still, no.
>>737585170I highly doubt that cats call them colonies
>>737633936What do real life black people have to do with a fictional pocket monster, other than your need of shrieking your racism at every opportunity because you think we'll clap like seals and pat your ass in approval?
>>737633989Cat here, can confirm we do.
>>737633667He's made these threads and "argued" that humanoid Pokemon are exactly like people many, many, MANY times. It's the same brain damage that drives other posters like ACfag.
>>737584827You're not supposed to imagine the final evo as a pack/flock/herd though. You do that for their first and second evolutions while the final forms are the equivalent of elders in the flock. You wouldn't really envision seeing a bunch of Blastoise rolling around in nature, but a bunch of Squirtle or Wartortle is believable. Same for Charmander's evo line.
But she got the leggy.
>>737585596Foxes live in packs. They just hunt on a solitary basis.Fun completely-unrelated fact btw; Rhinos were previously thought to be solitary animals before researchers started filming them at night, whereafter they discovered that they are particularly sociable when the hellish African sun isn't beating down on them.
>>737634021Dunno, ask the franchise's creators.
>>737584827I mean, I think there's other possible configurations. What about a pack of mostly the lower evolutions centered on only one or two of the final evolution that acts as a leader/mentor?
>>737636174I see a yokai. Why are you obsessed with black people?
>>737629826Calling random posts zoomer isn't going to make it less obvious anon.
>>737584914>without it being awkwardYou sure about that?
>>737633667>make retarded assertion>get btfo’d>double down on assertion and just pretend it still holds water>repeat, foreverThis is something like 80% of online discussions. People have extreme pride online because they assume everyone but themselves is really stupid because modern social media teaches nothing but abject narcissism. So when they get refuted by someone they consider to be far below them they just start with the delusions.
>>737636481NTA but which Yokai is this?Only played Nioh.
>>737636856Yama-uba (mountain crone), a figure from folklore often depicted with long white-blonde hair, a red kimono, and large lips. Her design combines this with elements of the Japanese ganguro (blackface) fashion subculture, Noh theater makeup, and the icy nature of a Yuki-onna (snow woman).
>>737637138I knew about the yuki-onna and ganguro influence but didn't think yamanba was part of it. Aren't those mostly associated with cooking and eating people?
>>737637424Depends on who's telling the story.
>>737637138>ganguro (blackface)That's a really fucking massive stretch for Jynx's skin.
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>>737638792Yeah equating the blackface to ganguro is retarded. The hair is that element, not the face. The skin color I would argue might be because of color limitations and to make the sprite read clearly.
