Path of Exile 2 0.5.0 is going to be the biggest update yet, and it’s only one month away. Anyone else fucking pumped?
POE marketing department is struggling.
in b4 200 paragraph essays on how poe2 mindbroke (you)
poo 2 lost bigly
>>737585164meh, run every season ain't fun when everything it slow as shit
>>737585164dead game
I'm new to poe, is all the new stuff on a new league that you have to make a new character to see?
midwit game
>>737586889Yeah, you have to make a new character when a new league starts to experience the special mechanics and content of that league
>>737586889Everyone starts from scratch during a new league. You could play on Standard, where everyone's characters and items get dumped into every league, but that's cringe and yikes.
>>737585164I'm pumped for the D4 expansion.
>>737585164you would hope every update is the biggest ever since 0.1, we don't know anything specific so not much to discuss or get hyped about.>>737587671whats good with it, and how's Warlock? i really want something as fun as D3 WitchDoc but i can't find anything like that in other games.
Have they announced what missing classes or weapon types are getting added? or are they pushing a new Act in after the current Act Interlude? If they're doing ALL of the above then it legitimately would be the biggest beta update since launching 0.1
>>737585164I'll be back when they bother to fix CPU optimisation.So basically never.
>>737589078No announcements yet but the dataminers have- apparently- found swords and the gladiator subclass.
I find it hard to get excited for PoE2, it feels like they genuinely don't understand what made PoE1 fun and why people preferred it to other Diablo clonesPOE2>any class cam use any skill with any weapon>this ability requires 30 chud coins to activate>you found a way to generate 3000 chud coins a second? Good for you>have funPoe2>skills are locked to weapon types except for spells>this skill consumes 30 chud coins>here's 3 paragraphs of exceptions to make sure you are hard capped to 10 chud coins per second max>someone found a way around the chud coin limit?>next patch: Chud coin limit reduced to 5 per second, ability now costs 45 chud coins>stop having fun
>2 years later>Poo 2's biggest shill is *still* the pedophile child rapist toxic positivity guyLMAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
>>737589230Maybe upgrade your dogshit 2010 toaster?
>>737589989good bait
>>737585164*Crickets*
>>737585164Waiting for Project F instead
>>737590248Why do you lie so much?
>>737585164Too bad the game is dead. Honestly they should abandon it and go back to making PoE1 content but I doubt pride will allow it.
reminder that all poe 2 criticism is really that the game is too hard for them and they cant cheat because its online only
>>737589502>any class cam use any skill with any weaponyeah you don't play poe1, back to d4 lil gup
>>737590830Then make an easy mode and a cheating mode?
>0.1Fool me once>0.2Fool me twice>0.3Fool me thrice>0.4 Fool me 3rd of a dozen>0.5HAIRED FAT RETARDI'll still play it though
>>737587967Warlock isn’t out until the expansion next week so no one really knows. It does look completely unhinged though so that’s something.
free when?better assets compression so it's not gonna hit 200gb at full release when?
>>737591423.01 was fun though
>>737585164I just hope they steal the atlas map from the current PoE1 league season, faffing about looking for shit in 2's map is pretty bad. Also hope we get templar or something, I really like Holy Hammers in Mirage and would like to see 2's take on a holy warrior, but I'm unsure we'll get another class this season.
I enjoyed my first time through the campaign but after that there's nothing to do. I will not replay the first three chapters just to see a single new chapter. I will wait until all chapters are out, play the campaign once, and put it down forever.
>>737592080retard
>>737592194A retard would waste their life away grinding the same campaign every league just to get the same gear they already had and then repeat that every few months until they wake up at 50 and realize their life is over.
>>737592194this is the guy who calls everyone /poeg/ a retard isnt it
>>737589230i used to get like 20fps on launch and its up to constant 90 now, do what you will with that information
>>737592303ARPGs are not for you, retard. Leave.
>>737592303>my time isnt wasted because i diversify my time waste
>>737585164>2 years early access and not even halfway to 1.0.0
>>737592609GGG has no reason to stop the gravy train rolling, why stop charging 30 with MTX? they're gonna keep it EA as long as possible
>>737592303everything is repetition even if you go to the moon once, going back again is pointlesswe live to repeat tasks until we die
>>737592719Autists like repetition
>>737585164>poe2: 6k players>poe1: 13k playersHoly shit it's well and truly over
sorry, i'm currently stuck on low-end pc.can't be hyped when you're poor... and brown.
>>737593698it'll probably flip once 2's new season is out, Mirage is pretty good and 2's current league is kind of buns. they also delayed their endgame rework to the upcoming league
>>737593698>5 month league has low player countomg......no.......impossible.......
>>737589502It's literally the same situation as Helldivers. The devs are just hyper autistic "nofunallowed" retards who take personal offensive to the idea of anything being fun to use in a PVE game.
>>737589341>dataminerswhat data? theres been no patch yet
>>737589502Dude they shouldn't be remaking poe 1, its not fun to be able to vomit out skills and fill the screen with seizure inducing amount of effects its fucking retardedThey are better off creating these roadblocks now to finely tune how builds develop down the line
>>737585164Game is dead. Blizzard won in the free market of ideas.
>>737596194not even the most deluded of blizztroons believe this
>>7375914230.1 was the best iteration...
>>737589502as has been said numerous times: the community that built a cult around poe meme builds kept the game alive. All of those niche OP builds that everyone loved were always by accidentpoe1 was only ever good by accident, and poe2 is aiming to fix that mistake by reigning in the possibilities of player creativity and freedom
>>737585164How about I pump ya mother instead cunt
>>737597124cope
>>737596194I haven't played since the 3rd season of D4. But isn't the new expansion just Blizzard's version of PoE2? That's what I got from the early reviews. I thinking of buying it, since I skipped the first expansion.
>>737589509Who? Quin? Yeah I heard he's a pedo
>>737597610Dam I may actually purchase the D4 expansion now
No. PoE 2 is an unsalvagable piece of shit. We're excited D4's Lord of Hatred here.
Kinda wish there was a fast track option for the story. I did it enough that I'd rather just start in the middle or something when things pick up. I'm not hardcore into these games but goddamn does the beginning feel slow.
>>737600849Fast tracking exists, it's called not being a shitter. People can run through the campaign in 3 hours, what's your excuse?
>>737600849Welcome to the community which has been asking for alt leveling for literally over a decade.`
>>737600849Generally this will never happen because they commonly held league launch races which knowing the campaign is part of the skill expression>But who gives a shitYes I know only 100 people care about this, but this is the reason
>>737589078No, but they’ve updated the descriptions and added artwork for Duellist, Marauder and Templar
>>737602990Shadow also got new art but the description is still the old one
>>737603079Looks like Johnny Depp doing a batman movie.
>>737585164I'll play it when it's out of EA, has all the promised classes and story acts and costs $0.00
The big issue with poo2 right now>the acts are very long and boring>the ascension upgrades are still locked behind incredibly frustrating mini gamesCompare poe1 campaign to poo2.10 hour campaign with full ascension possible within timeframe, you can be fully ready to do any mechanic by 24 hours of playtime including end game bosses.Poo2 requires 24 hours to beat the campaign and you will only get the first 3 ascension nodes. It takes another 24 hours of farming to unlock the fourth set of points. It roughly takes to the 60 hour mark to get to fighting final bosses.
>>737606230Act 3 really drags on, but:>Poo2 requires 24 hours to beat the campaign and you will only get the first 3 ascension nodes.I can get to maps in HCSSF in 12 hours in a league start. In SSF it's 6 hours. 24h is way too inefficient. >the ascension upgrades are still locked behind incredibly frustrating mini gamesTrial of Sekhemas greatly rewards knowledge. Once you understand what works and what doesn't, it's quite easy. Especially once you're honour res capped.
Honestly having done the campaign once I'd be happy to never do it again, just get straight to maps.
>>737596117Whats fucking retarded is trying to turn an arpg into elden ring
>>737606230You’re just way more used to Poe 1 than Poe 2. I also find that getting the first six ascension points in PoE 2 is way easier. Labyrinth is fucking cancer and I hate it.
>>737592460Yes, unironically.
>>737585164Oh right. That was a thing.
Anyone who complains about Poe 2 is just really bad at video games.
>>737585164I already played the game once when it came out, I have no reason to ever play it again. Hurry up and give me PoE 3.
>>737606485How? By just adding a roll?The game needed to slow down, that doesn't mean its elden slop, roll doesnt mean shit
Didn't even play the last patch. The game is still worse than the original. By a long way.
>>737585164Does the gameplay still revolve around rolling?If so pass
>>737585164It's funny PoE 1 is not a game for me. It's in essence an autistic built simulator for the 0,1% where everyone else copy pastes a built where the end goal was everything on screen dying instantly while you're teleporting through the map. I never understood it. It's the most railroaded thing in existence. If you follow this build and this autist and this guide and this and that. FUCK THAT.It would take me forever every other leauge to clear the basic story to get to the endgame. And by then I was burned out and it wasn't fun. Meanwhile people were getting to endgame by day 1. PoE 2 comes out and I fucking love it. It's a challenge. I die constantly, adjust built, it requires concentration and actual game play skill. There no guides or shit so you go in blind and explore for yourself. You test skills you get to experience whats good, bad and there actually shit that tickles my brains reward systems. I don't feel like I'm just on a fucking minecart going forward. And the average PoE 1 player just seething steam coming out of his ears and HATES this.
>>737607107Jesus christ make a less obvious marketing post you botting cunts.
>>737601465Post your 3 hour run, please. I'd love to see it. You aren't conflating some autistic dumbfuck running the campaign hundreds of times with an average player's capability, right?
>>737601465Well to do that you have to autisticaly speedrun it like 20 times and get good by practicing the same thing over and over, I don't enjoy repeating the same process over and over again if it's boring and tedious,just to be a little faster. It's tiresome and uninteresting. I enjoy new experiences.
>>737585164poop of excrement 2
>>737607127Why don't you cure your autism?
>>737607236Don't respond to that bad-faith garbage in good faith, anon. It takes hundreds of runs to be that fast. The fastest run is like three and a half hours and you just throw grenades and roll the entire time. You'd have to be retarded to think that's fun and worth investing time into optimizing.
>>737607329Honestly I have the same problem with PoE 1. It was fun the first few times when the content was new.
>>737607206>>737607236That's what I thought. Stop being a crybaby bitch and git gud. Or better yet, fuck off back to D4.
>>737585164Unless it adds Duelist and Templar I don't give a fuck. Also if it doesn't go on sale for at least 50% off I won't buy it no matter what they add and will rather wait for 1.0 and save my shekels.
>>737585164Can I skip the campaign yet?
>>737607329Yeah, you can beat the speedrun autists in the long haul anyway if you have a lot of time.
I never understood why there was such a big issue with the screen vomit you get giga late game.First off, it's not even applicable to 90% of players, who won't no-life hard enough to get there. Second- it's a fucking progression game. You grind gear to farm to grind gear to farm to grind gear. The seizure meta exists because the game lets you scale for basically ever. Games like borderlands, diablo, etc, you get all your skills and you're done. You can keep grinding, but all you're doing is making imaginary numbers go up. POE is great SPECIFICALLY because there's no limit. Want to fill the map with 10 billion monsters and then blow them all up instantly? Go ahead, you just need to grind out a strong enough character.Genuinely, what is the alternative for a late game arpg? Is seeing a tooltip or difficulty or mayhem number go up enough to keep you engaged?
>>737585164>1 year in EA beore 1.0 BTW
>>737607714Can you skip the campaign in Diablo 2?
>>737601465>here bro character creation only takes three hours, provided you train for it and watch these youtube videos of course.. you're not a shitter, right?
>>737585164The downfall of this company needs to be studied. They went from having the best ARPG on the market to being utter dogshit. PoE 2 really did break them.
>>737607769I guess that's a "no", lol. Maybe next time!
>>737607771Yeah, it's called learning how to play the game. I know you want to pay for a level boost and skip playing the videogame, but maybe you should consider fucking off to whatever MMOslop you crawled out from.
>>737607645Waiting on your three hour run to be posted. You aren't living vicariously through other autist's "accomplishments," right?
>>737585164melee will ever actually be able to attack while moving and I feel absolutely fucking cheated, swindled, raped and GAPED
>>737607823You can call it whatever you want, I'm not doing it
>>737607841You are never getting a campaign skip. Never ever. Leave this thread and never come back, boostie scum.
>>737607942I'm not asking for a campaign skip though. I'm asking for you to stop being ignorant.
Remember when they said the campaign was actually gonna be fun, and it would be highly nonlinear, and that there would be faster ways to do it for strong/twinked cahracters? lol
>>737602990Where is the marauder leak?
>2026>PoEYou're far too late.
Can't tell if 2 trolls or 1 troll and a retard who thinks the other is actually interacting with him instead of spewing fallacies on repeat to prolong his attentionwhoring spree.
>>737608032>>737608051Cry more boostie. Never happening. Back to D4 where you belong.
>>737608082I never even tried D4
>>737608120It is your true home. Go.
>>737585164Have fun, I'm waiting for the full release or either waiting until I forget the $20 I spent on it so I feel no duty to play
>>737585164I'll have fun doing another run.
>>737607802they got too big for their britches and they think their shit don't stink so in order to make them fit they just started fillin em upsad!
>>737608191It's not that I hate campaigns per se, it's just that the poe2 one is such a chore and you don't find any cool items until endgame
>>737597124TRVKEYou will play Jon's premade, cookie-cutter builds and be happy.
>>737608191Thats good though. Not having to redo the boring ass campaign would get you to maps quicker in PoE
>>737608283I've always liked the PoE campaign. It's just fun going through the zones and getting a great roll on a piece of gear.
>>737608357Never happening. Go to your true home.
>>737607738The game was sold with the promise of a slower game that would required skill. Instead it devolved, as you progress towards the endgame, into the usual mind numbing experience.More skill, less stats padding.
>>7376080722 trolls no way the other ones that retarded.
>>737608417No, it wasn't. Retards who don't even like ARPG's convinced themselves of that though. They always said it was going to be PoE in the endgame.
>>737608625The only change they're really trying to force is deterring players from making 1 button nuke builds.
Tencent shill thread
>>737587671they fixed everythingexcept auction house/trading feature and stash spaceit’s actually gonna be so good and I can’t believe it desu
Blizzard and Tencent shill thread
>>737608774Do you even need to trade in D4?
>>737600849I dont get why you guys dont see the campaign as part of the process, you're doing the same thing you do in endgame with progressively upgrading your character just at a lower level and with less restrictive modifiers needed relatively speaking
>>737607802>The downfall of this company needs to be studied.Nothing to study.
>>737608625Yes it was, retard. Good luck rewriting history when all those videos are still up on GGG's channel.
>>737608861you will nowGG gear especially amulets are going to need a lot of bases and matslooks like getting the right seal with good stats is another chaseuniques actually now don’t have fixed affixes anymore, so there’ll be a huge difference between a good unique and a best in slot version plus you can take a good legendary base and gamble to upgrade to the unique with the cubesome very underrated crafting options and it’s exactly what people wanted from D4
>>737608976Cope, why did the game launch with Spark and Lightning Arrow if that's the case? Why was Lightning Spear added in 0.2? Why are Heralds in the game? The game was never going to be slow.
>>737607107absolute skill issue
>>737609252With people thinking PoE 2 is tedious yes.
Thanks, but I'm sticking with Grim Yawn.
>>737585164Game keeps getting worse with every new patch. Truly a successor to poe.
>>737589078No but Marauder ascendancies are a whole bunch of axe skills were added to the database last patch so there's a good chance it's that.Also there's several variants of existing skills that were added. Could be MTX or could be actual variant skill gems being added as loot.
>>737585164every league the campaign makes me want to play the game less and lessi probably wont even bother this time
>>737585164Can the Witch actually float? I've wanted to play the Witch and have my Witch float like in the character select of PoE1 since PoE1. If she can but it's a paid cosmetic I'll be pissed.Also the main reason I haven't played it more than an hour is it ran poorly, it runs much worse than Diablo 4, and is 100+ gigs. That's a 100+ gig commitment just sitting on my SSD at all times.
>>737609780What gave you that idea, golly gee wonder of wonders, what could've possibly lead you to that conclusion>plays lightning archer/spear/crossbow/srs for the Nth time
>>737609951Any character can float. It comes from certain skill nodes. The Witch gets it in the Demon Form node from the Infernalist skill tree, other characters get it from the Elemental Archon buff.
>>737609991so the answer to my question is "no" in the sense it's 1. specific to a node 2. isn't exclusive or unique to her in a cool waymassively gay dogshit game
>>737609951>>737610186/poeg/ troll post
>>7376099800.1 : Titan0.2 : Gem0.3 : Hollow P Invok0.4 : Furry Oracle0.1 was the most enjoyable but then they started going to a direction I don't like
>>737610369Wasn't an insult directed to you, it was an observationThe pattern I noticed since release; archer permanently broken, lightning favoritism in all its forms, extremely key components of the game consistently broken and ignored, slow methodical gameplay became screen clearing zoomzoom automation, every creative build gets nerfed, loot and crafting is dogshit, zero gameplay clarity and you still can't make a proper character without encyclopedic knowledge of the gameSo they all go lightning archer every league and worship poe2 like it's the second coming
>>737593810Go fuck yourself. You do not get to use that excuse after the same post were made when Settlers lasted 1 year.
>>737610541bad faith seether
>>737610581Your game is shit.You game can't hold players.5 months is nothingYour game doesn't even get special event to revive it.
>>737610651giga seethe
>>737593698Almost like PoE 1 just had a League and PoE 2 had one in December.
the difference between poe1 and poe2 is that poe2 will never be a good game while poe1 was at least good for a while
>>737609980>plays lightning archer/spear/crossbow/srs for the Nth timePeople played shapeshifter builds a lot last League because their damage is ridiculous. Downside is you can't use shields and your hitbox is twice as wide so shapeshift playstyles are way rippier than average. Shit like Count Geonor ice meteors were very hard to dodge.
the Assault Ribbon enemy. When I first saw these I noped the fuck out of the Path of Exile experience and havent been back. It's the most lazy and uninspired trash I've ever seen.>muh Exile fighting against chaos>Me warrior me equip the volcano ball skill!>I'm a ranger so I equip the ice arrow gem skill!
>>737609749Forgive me...
>>737608054
>>737585164Facebreakers stopped being fun and now they've added yet another currency I have to grind up to make noomber go up. I just want to punch things with a custom build in an action game, I don't care about stats bullshit at all for a single second. My resists are shit because I don't want to grind gear, so I can't play anything other than Reliquary.
>>737609951Mana Tempest skill has a float animation when you're inside the tempest. Its a Staff skill instead of Wand skill so you need to have a Staff in your 2nd weapon slot to use it. Witch also got the Demon Form that also floats around.
>>737612853Wait lol I'm retarded, didn't realize this was a PoE2 thread. I suck cocks.
>>737612853Based. One of my (and my cousin who was playing with me back then) best memories of Poop Exile was finding FB when they could still roll 1000% (early days) and mine rolled 989%, and I instantly put them on and laughed hard as I was 1-shotting everything. This was back in the fellshrine ruin run days. Man I miss old PoE. GGG sucks so much ass it's insane. Every game Tencent touches turns to shit.>inb4 playernumbersfags reply
>>737612987See you in the League day /poeg/ thread whining about long queues.
>>737613048Haven't spoken with poeggers in years, anon. Guessing they're as dogshit as ever still.
>>737613112>Haven't spoken with poeggers in yearsYou're shitposting in every /poeg/ thread, pajeet.
>>737613252I must be all-knowing and all-powerful to have such an ability as I haven't even been to poeg in years.
>>737609749Only Reign of Terror mod is worth it.
>>737607107PoE2 is by far more build raildroaded than 1 was though so I can tell you're full of shit.
>>737614784>PoE2 is by far more build raildroadedAnd then the strongest builds are some weird warrior lightning crossbow or werewolf monk builds.
>>737590248Early on, PoE1 "classes" were just starting points on the atlas tree. It wasn't until 2014 (so years after the first public release) when they started adding ascendancy classes. Also in PoE2 every class is designed around a weapon type, that is to say they won't be released before the devs have designed the 30 or so kills for that weapon type.
>>737615241>Also in PoE2 every class is designed around a weapon type,PoE 2 classes are a mix of where you start in the passive tree and Ascendancies. All the ascendancies are designed so they don't give any buffs to specific weapons so although Warrior starts with Mace and game encourages you to use Mace, nothing prevents you from using crossbow or flails in the future. When swords and Duelist come out lot of Bleed builds will vary between Duelist ascendancies or Huntress Ritualist because she gets free corrupted blood effect.
>>737585164Path of exile 2 is doomed to have same archaic design as Poe1, it caters to poe1 players. The loot system is still trash and will always require a loot filter to filter out 99% of the item, as long as this is true the game is gonna be badly designed for autists.Every update is just bandaids stacking on top of other bandaids, this is no way to design a game. That's why its in such a horrible state
why are ggg detractors so weird
>>737615729>ggg detractor...Chris Wilson?
>>737615729They're addicted to a game they don't like.
>>737615709>The loot system is still trash and will always require a loot filter to filter out 99% of the itemName an Arpg with better loot system.
>>737615850Diablo2, DIablo3, Diablo4. Dont need shitty loot filters.
>>737615850>dodging the pointYou sound like an addict just chasing the next hit.
>>737615906Confirmed for not playing arpgs.>>737615910Says the guy shitposting in every PoE thread everyday and going suspiciously quiet on a League launch.
>>737615906>Diablo2, DIablo3, Diablo4. Dont need shitty loot filters.
>>737585164I haven't touched this slop since its launch, and by the looks of it, looks like many more haven't either. Jobathan can't make a game worth shit.
i decided to check out Torchlight Infinite for the first time during this lull from the big titles. it's quite a chinky mobage mess with P2W, though the gameplay is smooth, and it has some very appealing aspects.
>>737607802Chris had already been ruining the game for half a decade, but him leaving definitely accelerated the shit decision making. Not a single good patch has happened since his leave, and PoE 2 killed both playerbases.
>>737616000>still no argumentNo developer would ever want to their game to endup with loot system like Poe. In fact all of them would design the game to avoid needing loot filters or throwing trash at players, bloating the screen with garbage. No one would want to design a game where getting gear drops would never feel exciting or rewarding, where only exciting drops are rare currency.It's trash, stop coping
>>737616209>reddit spacingDidn't read.
>>737616209>No developer would ever want to their game to endup with loot system like Poe. In fact all of them would design the game to avoid needing loot filters or throwing trash at players, bloating the screen with garbage. >No one would want to design a game where getting gear drops would never feel exciting or rewarding, where only exciting drops are rare currency.Ubisoft didn't get that memo I guess
>>737616314poe is a reddit game, literally. Reddit community is the one that developers interact with the most and read posts on and react to feedback of crying manchildren there.
>>737585164Every update they make it the best game on the planet or totally unplayable.
>>737616414
>>737616473I'm sorry that you got banned from there, maybe one day the reddit jannies will let you back in.
>>737616548They are already putting the worst aspects of ARPGs into every other game they make, that's why.
>>737616473Unfun fact: One of the lead devs got his job by moderating the PoE subreddit.
>all the sweaty neckbeards from PoE1 that wanted 1-click metabuilds still seething at PoE2If anything the biggest problems of PoE2 are that they didn't drop the PoE1 mechanics completely. It should have been a full on twin stick action game, not an ARPG.>>737593698PoE1 gets only a bit above PoE2's peaks when a new league releases.
>>737589502>any class cam use any skill with any weaponBut this is not fun, it kills any and all class identity.
>>737593698Every poe thread there's one absolute retard who keeps posting steam numbers and it's the funniest thing because they have zero grasp of how this genre works
>>737585164Tell me it's fucking duelist holy shit ADD SWORDS ALREADY
>>737585164I wont play again until they add paladin
>>737619662It really doesn't. Class identity is where you start on the tree and your ascendancy. Problem with poe 2 is that most ascendancies are either bland or underpowered. Disciple of varashta for sorc from last patch is a good example of an ascendancy done right and made sorc one of my favourite classes
>poe 2 announcement looks fun>play it on launch>instantly remember how much i hate the campaign>huge fucking areas for no other reason than to pad it out>constant backtracking if you ever ran the wrong way>you do shit damage so every encounter takes forever>nothing ever drops so there's no way to craft anything >forced to go back to town to sell whatever drops and gamble for gear>support gems do nothing interesting>spell gems feel extremely limited>quit in act 3this is me every league
The campaign is the most fun part of PoE2, as soon as the endgame is unlocked it becomes unfun garbage>bro just keep running the same nondescript maps with arbitrary objectives over and over againI don't know how people do it
act 3's areas are still fuckhuge even after being cut down someact 4 took all the complaints to heart at least and they didn't pull that fucking stunt recycling the same overhuge grid-based aztec city twice (one time being filthy and the second time being pretty)
>>737619871The only thing that keeps me going is that I still haven't hit 100 yet.
>>737585164I skipped the last two. They better do something about that horrible end game before I give it another shot.
>>737589509who?
>>737616140We're basically at the point where GGG is pulling off all stops to keep people strung along poe1 and 2 have had leagues with insane amounts of free easy loot in hopes of getting people hooked on seeing divines drop
>>737619914Yeah that's fair, it's probably the only thing that could motivate me to actually engage with the endgame too.
>>737619832campaign is unironically the best part of 2 and they've gradually made it less of a slog since early access launch. If you're still struggling it's an actual skill issue.Async trade made trading incredibly easy so if you're hurting for gear you can spend 30 seconds finding a cheap upgrade that will carry you through, it but is completely unnecessary. I play HCSSF and have no issues.>>737619871endgame in 2 is weak but 0.5 seems to be addressing that. Campaign railroads you and maps don't, you need to set goals for yourself or you won't have fun. Whether that's killing ubers or getting specific rare drops, the chase is fun for a lot of people.
>make all maps half as big>increase experience gain by 2xthat's a freebie GGG
>>737620039Last time I killed all the endgame bosses other than Arbiter who I died to, next time will be faster, so on. But I doubt I'll ever do 100 more than once, at least with the current state of things.
>>737620058>campaign is unironically the best part of 2 and they've gradually made it less of a slog since early access launch. If you're still struggling it's an actual skill issue.i stopped playing poe1 because i hated the campaign so much as well. every time i hit a dead end, which is once every single area, and realize i now have to run back through the area i've already cleared to see if that unexplored corner of the map leads to the exit, i just want to uninstall the game and never touch it again. it just triggers me profusely. diablo 2 is the other way around though. i fucking love that campaign, and whenever i go back to it, if it's d2r or pd2 or whatever, i just keep making new characters using the uniques i've found as soon as i kill baal on hell because i love the leveling experience so much.
>>737620091arbiter has too many bullshit attacks. I won't even touch him on hardcore unless I'm ready to quit. I like hard encounters but hopefully any future pinnacle bosses won't be designed like he is
>>737620058>you need to set goals for yourself or you won't have funYeah I think this is my problem, mostly because the gear is so insanely uninteresting in PoE2.>looks exactly the same>but the text on this one is different so you better pay 50 divs rather than one exaltReally hard for me to motivate getting on any kind of endgame grind
>>737620293That's the thing, I was pretty much at my limit at 96 or something, but I could have convinced myself to go for more with the extra tablets. So next time I'll go for it at around 80 and use more EXP tablets and that should get me to 100 in a similar amount of content.
>>737619871Current endgame is fun but it lacks any bigger goals and the rewards you find lack variety. Biggest example Expedition where all the Expedition Vendors were turned into Rog. Just have Cowgirl Gwennen have a 2nd Gamble button with higher chance of getting Ward items. And haggling with the midget orb shop was simple but fun.
>>737619787>where you start on the treeBarely fucking relevant, tree itself is a fucking shitshow in both 1 and 2>most ascendancies are either bland or underpoweredJust like 1 then, ascendancies is such a missed opportunity that niGGGers managed to blunder not once but twice, they only were remotely fun in that one poe1 league that had them entirely reworked.
>>737620293>but hopefully any future pinnacle bosses won't be designed like he isAtziri is designed like he is, her hp bar is just so low that people can burst her down much quicker. On the flipside neither boss has unavoidable DPS checks, if you're good enough you can dodge their attacks infinitely and beat them with little to no gear restrictions.>But Atziri 2nd phase has full screen attack.The AoE gets smaller the more you attack her while she's charging it. It doesn't calculate the DPS but the number of attacks you've landed.
>>737620330if better gear doesn't tickle any part of your monkey brain and its appearance is the deal breaker then you're fundamentally at odds with these games and won't be able to enjoy yourself.Getting a good upgrade or crafting one yourself is a good feeling, what it looks like doesn't matter. >>737620520>tree itself is a fucking shitshow in both 1 and 2damn if you had just said 2 maybe I'd agree with you because it's largely unfinished and has way less power than it should, but you went full retard and now your opinion is worthless.
>>737620683>if better gear doesn't tickle any part of your monkey brain and its appearance is the deal breaker then you're fundamentally at odds with these gamesI just take issue with how bad most uniques seem to be, and how annoying it is to just craft something you want. I've genuinely never been able to craft a halfway decent item because I always get shit luck on the RNG rolls.
>>737620596I like the lore detail how it turns out that the apocalypse didn't happen from Atziris offerings themselves but by Atziri losing the fight to PoE 2 hero and offering herself as the final human sacrifice. Then she gets vored by a giant vagina.
>>737620683>10 million minuscule stat increase nods with barely any interesting onesI fucking hate that kind of design, would much rather prefer having fewer nodes but each one much more impactful, kind of like ascendancies, except ascendancies in both 1 and 2 also barely has anything truly impactful in them and when they do it is direct downgrade from taking boring shit.
is there a single viable druid build where I can play as that flying lizard?
>>737620858GGG really want to force the whole market shit and currency crafting, which means they can't make uniques really fun unless they are chase streamer bait.
>>737585164Just give me me swords and endgame when i dont' become a god at lvl90
PoE2 ssf is fun for a play through every big patch imo.
>>737621109Wyvern is the most broken shapeshift of them all so theres plenty of different wyvern build that completely break the game's balance. Just learn to dodge enemy attacks because you're a big target with no shield.
>>737621342main gripe with ssf is that + skill levels is too important of a stat for any piece it can roll on. Makes finding gear CBT after a certain point because you can't just alteration spam to get what you want.It's been a problem since launch so they should address it at some point
>>737589502>>any class cam use any skill with any weaponhow is this a bad thing?
Almost everything about PoE 2 is worse than the original, it is honestly bizarre
>>737589509which one?
>>737622027>campaign is more engaging>game feels better to play (poe 1 is too floaty and wasd is an improvement)>boss fights are more funEverything else is either worse or an odd decision at best. It's going to take years of patches before it reaches a point where it may actually surpass the original
>>737585164poe2 is bad.
Diablo 4 is more fun
>>737587671Yep. Just finishing up my barb in season 12. Going for 'lock next season.
Troonathan lied. Poe died.
>>737621508It does suck but if you're stuck without a +4 Wand for a while you'll probably end up with a really good +2 or +3 that will be comparable to a cruddy +4 anyway. And you really don't need +5, it looks and feels good but it's vanity stuff, you can obliterate content without it. In fact it might make your spells less comfortable due to mana costs. It's more rough on Amulets but again, you'll usually end up with some usable +1 at the very least and you can get by with that, or you'll just use some other insane rolled Amulet without it anyway.
>>737622395True but keep in mind D4 is an ARPG awhile poe2 is a boring rollslop with isometric camera.
>>737585164if they don't fix the atlas, i'm not going to play. mapping in poop2 feels like such ass compared to poop1
poop2 is dead. Only way to fix it is to fire Jonathan into the sun and bring Chris back.
>>737585164did they remove the nagger boss fight viper in act 3? no then NO i wont return
>>737622395I'm a rare breed and can actually enjoy most ARPG's including d4, but at least put some effort into your bait.D4 runs out of gas after a couple of days into a season while I can play poe for weeks without getting bored. I doubt I'll even play lord of hatred for longer than a week even though it seems to be improving the game somewhat.>>737622538chris made some of the worst design decisions including archnemesis and ruthless. Loot being drastically reduced was also his legacy and only get fixed last league
>>737622571Bros, I love Viper so much.
>>737622571imagine getting filtered by a vaal whore
>>737622027yep they fucked up hard I expected more from them
>>737622635>invulnerable floating nagger>entire floor is chaos AOE>being stabbed to death by guards you are not even allowed to attackits the shittiest boss of all time any game
>>737585164>0.5.0Worse than a WEG.
>>737622710Sounds like a skill issue
>>737622710the spears glow before they fire and have a decent windup, they aren't hard to dodge unless you're a brainlet and can only focus on one thing at a time. Actually filtered.
>>737622749you sound like a shitcrow
>>737585164I am so pumpped I haven't been passed to even watch the video post.
>>737622748it is a WEG.>>737622710>another turd that ignores chaos resist
>>737622604>D4 runs out of gas after a couple of daysAnd that is bad why? D4 you reach peak power very fast and can decide if you want to chase pinnacle fights and grind achievements or fuck off till next season. It is surprisingly fair and honest in what it is.
>>737622783entire floor is chaos AOE. keep shilling bad design the other 5k players will agreemy the way i beat the game on HC you didn't. eat shit.
>>737622787im not the one upset about an act 3 boss
>>737622854I haven't played since the second week and I'm still on the HCSSF ladder.
>>737623057ha i knew you were softcore. enjoy the dead game tranny
>>737622854I only play hardcore and hcssf. I rarely ever die and nothing about that boss is remotely challenging. This isn't an own you're just making yourself look like an even bigger retard.>keep shilling bad design the other 5k players will agree0.4 has been out since december, 99% of players have moved on and are waiting for something new
>>737623130lmao not surprised it being a dead game.
>>737623179I actually went down 700 spots which I think is pretty respectable.
>>737585164Can't wait, by far the most interesting arpg on the market the past decade.
>>737623132Enjoy being back on the beach in act 1
>>737623205whats interesting about it?
>>737623221I would sooner play POE1 and I aint playing that either.
>hi, this is Jonathan Rogers from Grinding Gear Games, unfortunately we couldn't fit the endgame update into this patch either, but we're really excited to show you what kind of crazy microtransaction cosmetic effects we've been working on for the past 6 months
I am just not even going to try this shit pile until 1.0. See you in 5 more years at best.I bought Lord of Hatred instead.
>>7376233361.0 is coming this december. Not even a cope. Exilecon will be the announcement.
>>737623320I fucking hate this guy
>>737623386>1.0 is coming this december. Not even a copehahaha
>>737623386>1.0 is coming this december
>>737623535>>737623565Why would they do a big Exilecon if not for 1.0 release?
The real problem with PoE2 is No Rest For The Wicked seemed to do everything they wanted and instead of just making No Rest For The Wicked they're stuck in a no mans land between PoE1 and a different game
many of the classes and even the final act have been around for years at this point at various stages of polish.1.0 is coming. Trust the vision.
>>737623720I own it but I'm waiting for it to be done. I wanted to grab it while it was cheap.
>>737623720no rest for the wicked is just dark souls
>poe is still always online trashi shan't play it
>>737623784its fall damage simulator
>>737606230yeah the ascenscion shit they added to the game is fucking awful. Not gonna be doing that garbage again
>>737607015unfortunately yes, mandatory dodge rolling to sprint, and dodge rolling out of slow shitty animations constantly
>>7375851642nd poe2 league i wont play and i have no intention to ever come back. Just thinking about the boring dogshit campaign makes me shudder. I think I'm finally free from the hamster wheel.
>>737615729This so much, sis. Jonathan is brat.
>>737607769yes you can. It's called getting boosted
>there is a 50% chance 1.0 will be released on Christmas this yearJonathan summer 2025
>>737611380shapeshifter was fucking trash. Nearly all of the druid specs were fucking trash compared to just coc cometing or sparking on a blood mage. games a joke
>>737615037except none of that is true. Warrior makes a shit crossbow build and monk makes a shit werewolf build.
>>737615729>why are ggg detractors so weirdThere's a few very mentally unwell /vg/ posters that spams every PoE thread on /v/ they're pretty easy to spot since they always talk about Jonathan or poo
>>737585164Honestly I'm done with the loop for a while. I can't keep playing this campaign every time they introduce a new league, it's arduous. They go essentially radio silent for months on end, each league I play less and less, so I'll likely wait out a few leagues or until 1.0 and then jump in again, which should give them plenty of time to add a bunch of cool things.
Troonathan was a mistake. He killed the franchise immediately. Also, Darkee was right about everything.
>>737589502>it feels like they genuinely don't understand what made PoE1 fun>Implying poe1 is funFANGS OF ASTERKAM SOONDAY OF THE SHEER SOON
>>737606230>the ascension upgrades are still locked behind incredibly frustrating mini gamesSkill issue.
Troonkaizer 'cord lost.Jew69 lost.Streamer eceleb shills lost.Bigly.
>>737617964the problem with poo2 isn't that it isn't 1-click button spam, it's that it was promised not to be, but still is. Character spec options are so rigid and uncreative, that theory-crafting is basically non-existent
What's coming with the update?
>>737625275speak English you retarded fucking zoomer parasite
>1.25 GAMES>1 FAT TRANNY LEAD DEVELOPER
>>737625323kek gift them some more subs maybe it will make poop2 good
>>737625387what does you speaking like a fucking retard have to do with PoE 2 being dogshitOf course it's dogshit, it's a worse version of the first game with less everything and a longer campaign Fucking retard
>8 years of development hell (still in EA btw lmao) >still no swords, axes, builds, crafting, endgame, or actionNice '''ARPG''' you got there
>>737623720NRFTW literally has no players. That game is absolute dogshit you contrarian retard
>>737597124>poe1 was only ever good by accidentTruest thing ever said about this gameEverything fun about this game was due to the genie getting out of the bottle before Chris was able to get it back in
>>737625452wow you are really upset I'm sorry on behalf of ggg that your favorite franchise is dead don't shoot up your school
>>737602990>>737603079Where's templar?
>>737625532>stupid fucking retard who speaks and types like a stupid fucking retard keeps arguing with someone he made up in his head who likes this game because it sure as shit ain't melolmental illness is a bitch, retard zoom zoom
>>737625198>they hated him because he told the truthhas there ever been a bigger truth bomb than this video?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA1MzS2l_rw
Act 1 is peakAct 2 is okayAct 3 is abysmal dogshitAct 4 is okay
>>737585164SWORDS MOTHERFUCKING ITS MOTHERFUCKING SWORDS TIME BITCH!
>>737585164im bigly pumped
>>737585164after what PoE 2 had become, i rather want back canceled PoE mobile
I cannot wait to kill random monsters for random loot in randomly generated maps!
>bounced off poe2 at early access launch because it was clear they were just going to start catering to redditors>see "biggest expansion yet">might as well check to see what is new or changed since launch>see pic relatedThis game is seriously the biggest fucking joke of all time.
>Jonathan streamers pooHello /vg/
>>737585164NoI don't care man, the game is badIt shouldn't be getting 'league' updates, because it's an unfinished piece of shit, it's not worth playing because it's not even close to completionThe campaign sucks ass, act 4 is the first bit of campaign content that doesn't suck ass to play and play sprint through the overly large zoneThe combat is still worse than poe1, the support gem choices are complete dogshit, 80% of weapon types aren't in the game, boatloads of the skills are just garbage 15 button combos that don't work whatsoever if you don't want to use them in that exact context, the passive tree is still egregiously bad and uninteresting with most nodes being boring and worthless, it's not "oh thats' nearby and decent i'll take that" it's literally exclusively path to the like 2 good wheels no matter how far away they are and that's your entire tree. The map system is still trash, imagine every time you want to look at the atlas you have to sit and watch a cog loading screen lmfaoJonathan is bad, incompetent even. Almost certainly for his entire existence chris was reigning him in and overruling him on a bunch of insane design ideaI'll just continue playing poe1 thanks and the occasional pd2 season every few years, this game is still like 5 years from being close to even presentably ready
>>737625771lulululul
>>737620067They already shrunk map sizes by 30-50%, shrink them any more and it'll just make the game more like POE1
Give me swords and axes. God I'm so tired of hammers
>>737602990it doesn't even matterpoe2 ascendancies are just nothingthere is no meat to them whatsoever, it's almost all minor, conditional dogshitstarting position on the tree doesn't matter because the tree is too bad for it to matterpoe2 ascendancies are genuinely less interesting than bloodlines, and bloodlines are for the most part uninteresting and bad, choices that you will never take under any circumstances outside of one tiny specific hyperniche meme build. that's how ALL poe2 ascendancies feel>>737606898>The game needed to slow downpoe2 is not "slowed down"combat is the exact same pace, you just move slower around larger worse designed map layoutswhich is why everyone plays fucking deadeye bows and spears constantly to try and move faster - because sprint is bad and nobody wants to use ityou still one shot packsyou still blow up map bosses in 2 secondsyou just move slower and get less loot for doing so>>737607769uh, yes, you can. you can go to andariel immediately, you can go to duriel without doign any of act 2 or getting the staff. you can go immediately from act 3 town to council and then meph. you can go immediately from act 4 town to diablo. you can go immediately from act 5 town to ancients, to baal.you step through 7 portals and you have cleared one difficultythat's why people bother to make alts and 2nd chars on d2 and overwhelmignly do not in either poe game
>>737590630The CCP won't allow it.
>>737608381>It's just fun going through the zonesNo it isn't, there is nothing fun about holding m1 and hitting flasks/blink for 3+ hours doing fetch quests and navigating shitty map layours you will never run again just to get through itI would rather be thrown into a fucking arena with infinitely spawning, infinitely scaling monsters and fight my way from level 1 all the way up for 2 hours than spend that time just dashing through zones
>>737626852people complain about the map size because they are confused about the source of their boredom. If you have a lot of movement speed, the big maps aren't a problem; so the map size isn't the problem. if you have dense maps, and move slow then movespeed isn't the solution. the ultimate problem is that people are spending too much time doing nothing interesting, engaging or spectacular while playing the game.
>>737608871>I dont get why you guys dont see the campaign as part of the processBecause it isn't. What are you doing in maps? Looking for monsters to fight. Juicing more and more monsters. You are effectively reducing the amount of time you have to not be in combat as you progressWhat is the campaign? Running. It is minimizing the time spent in combat, they are literal opposites. It is running to quest markers, quest item collections, and back as fast as possible with as little combat as possible because the layouts are a) bad b) empty of monsters and c) the monsters cannot really drop anything of any worth to begin with.Oh and d) your build doesn't ACTUALLY FUNCTION so you're playing some jank dogshit that feels garbage until you can even reach the appropriate level for your build to work smoothly.
>>737626852Yeah, and? "wow we shrunk our massively oversized maps by 30% don't you rike it now"Listen retard, if your area is bigger than a diablo 1 level, if it is bigger than a poe1 map, then it is bad. It is too large, i am not here to sight see your super hard work on dogshit doodads and graphics and effects whilst running through it. I DON'T CARE. It is all wasted work, put me back in fucking gorge and let me live there. Look at the maps people run in poe1 - city square, strand, beach, jungle valley, silo, toxic sewers, cemetaryWHAT DO THEY HAVE IN COMMON FUCKONotice how nobody runs bramble valley or grave trough or any 'new' designed poe1 map. Their map designers are bad. They are not just bad, they are atrocious, they are the exact opposite of what anyone actually wants in that role.And every campaign zone is the exact opposite of every map people choose to run, big surprise nobody likes the fucking campaigns huh?!?!?
>>737625742act 4 is my favorite. Aesthetic, music, the open endedness of it. 3 is still objectively the worst and would be mostly fixed with smaller zones
>>737585164Path of Exile (1 and 2) is so trash though. Who enjoys mashing one button for hours and hours on the same few looking maps for a 0.01% chance of an item dropping that is statistically a 0.5% increase in power?Not gonna lie, I've never liked the genre, and I was only playing because of friends, but by the time I'd hit around tier 10 mapping I just couldn't anymore. I couldn't stop thinking to myself what sort of person actuially thinks this is enjoyable.
>>737622395>enemy level scalinginto the trash it goes!
>>737627036>uhm, actshually, yes, you can skip the campaign>if you get someone to rush you through acts with waypoints unlockedliterally arguing in bad faith
>>737627910Nigger wtf are you saying: nothing is ever going to drop that increases your power. You farm in-game currencies/materials and sell the shit to Chinese bots to buy what you need OR gamble it all yourself and to craft shit.
>>737585164>Endgame only update for the autistic fagsFuck that.
>>737628030Was that not obvious from the fact he was multi-replying just to avoid post cooldown?
>>737625742Act 1 > act 4 >>> act 2 >= act 3
>>737628105Because hoping my 30 hours of grinding for a 0.01% chance of dropping a divine orb I can trade for an extra 0.1% DPS increase isn't just an increase in power?Honestly the entire system around the orbs being currency and basically the only way to get stronger end game is retarded. Makes no sense at all. Just drop decent gear.
>>737585164it's le current year of our Lord 2012+14 and people STILL fall for Early Access. unbelievable. just as with D4 it was obvious from the get-go it's gonna suck ass
>>737628282>grinding for a 0.01% chance of dropping a divine orbJust so you know: you are playing the game in a really inefficient and downright wrong way, have a good day.
2 leagues per year, tremendous.
>>737628586At least it means they're finishing PoE2.GGG survives by spewing forth shitloads of MTX in major releases to generate funds in big bursts. Fewer Leagues = less revenue = bad = needs a very good reason to do that.
>>737619983>Darth MicrotransactionMan that guy seems like one of the biggest fucking mongoloids on the planet. He's basically a slightly more hygienic Asmongold on downers.
>>737585164I'm so glad I escapedI only come to these threads to watch ARPG players in their natural habitat now
>>737628282being able to use currency to make your own stuff is a fundamental part of why poe is so good. Just because you're too low iq to interact with it or know how to leverage it doesn't make it bad. It's not even hard to understand.
>>737627247this has been said ad nauseum and the devs refuse to speed up the gameplay at all, and are instead reducing mob desnity because shitters dont like "screen clutter". So you'll get a slow game with no action and 5 mobs on screen if these retarded nigggers have their way
>>737627751GGG are too far into sunk cost fallacy to change the design. They spent the last 8 years latching onto the worst ideas on how to "fix" poe1
>>737629418dysgenic nepobaby shilloid with a lisp
>>737629418Asmon only promoted him because he finally found a streamer that looked more hideously rat like than himself
>>737628030can you or can you not skip the campaign? it's a very straight forward question. no addendums, no altering, no "but that doesn't count"can i play a character and not have to run through any single campaign zone if i don't want tothe answer is yes. you cannot be rushed in poe because there are a dozen conditional quest steps, it does not let you tp to the act boss kill it and move on
>>737589509Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
>>737631074Quin already existed though...
>>737629418DM seems like a good dude.
>love me poe>love me diablo>love me grim dawn>'ate last epochsimple as
no righteous fireno playsimple as
>>737633276Grim Dawn expansion WHEN
fuck me the campaign is such a slog, i hear it gets good by act 4 but i've never made it past act 3
>>737631238no, you can't skip the campaign in D2, but to further your point of arguing in bad faith, the campaign in D2 is the whole game, there is no post-campaign endgamei also find the D2 campaign to be nicely paced and far more replyable than the PoE 2 slogfest they call a campaign
>>737635787Act 1 is decent, 2 has numerous pain points and is boring, 3 is a huge fucking slog, 4 is really cool, but has a few pain points.
>>737635253The fact Righteous Fire is one of the most popular builds says a whole lot about modern PoE. Most braindead shit that is also easy to make workable without a guide, yet still performs better then 90% of what you would consider a "normal" skill due to how many hoops normal skills now need to jump through to get enough damage and tankyness.
>>737635787act3 is the fucking worst act of all time. never seen such a massive copy pasted waste of fucking time land
Where the fuck is act 5 and 6?AND WHY DOES EVERY CLASS HAS GAY ASS LIGHTING BUILDS!!!I dont need Lighting on Sorc, Archer, Monk, Witch, etc.
>>737633276Last Epoch had a lot of potential but was squandered by an inexperienced dev team working on an engine which is hard to optimize without previously having worked with it. They had some good ideas to shake up a very stagnant genre, it's kind of a shame that it flopped and they sold out.
>>737585164swords
>>737636178rf is the purest arpg skill. just walk through the enemies and they die. it's what every other build tries to be but can't.
>>737636324Because fire = burn = damage over time = mobs are alive for more than 0.0001 second = mobs kill youcold = slow = mobs are alive for more than 0.0001 second = mobs kill youlightning = BIG DMG = mobs die instantly = mobs don't kill youThe problem with nuPoE has always been that it degenerates to a binary where the most optimal defensive strategy is to kill everything on the screen before it can move, which means the devs balance things to kill characters that deal infinite damage in a large area, which means builds which don't deal infinite damage in a large area end up completely eating shit.They're building around those builds getting hit once, very occasionally, when their retard faceroll build fails to path through a shrub. So they balance that one hit to be threatening. Then somebody comes along and plays a build with modest damage and wants to be tanky, but they take ten of those hits and die and wonder why they feel fragile even though they picked the 'right' defensive options.Which ultimately leads to a meta where you build enough defense to survive that single hit, and then dump everything else into increasing your retarded damage output.ARPGs are such a fucking stupid genre.
darth microshill got to be in the game
>>737636876historically this is very accurate for poe1 but we aren't in that situation yet for 2. and ggg is very aware of that problem and they realise once you get stuck in that design you can't go back. it's still EA, nothing is locked in yet
I actually enjoyed the lore here. The wholesome Alva teasure hunting. The Karui temple where you meet the agent of infinity. The pirate lair. Wholsome stuff.The entire first act is onpar with classic D2. Including the 11/10 Count bossfight.
>>737636324Filtered
>>737636876>ARPGs are such a fucking stupid genre.you mean diablo-likes/loot clickers. elden ring is an arpg (action rpg) but it's not a diablo-like.
Game has exposed titty armor. Thats already more based than Blizzard will ever be.
>>737637159arpg and action rpgs are different genres despite the a standing for action
>>737637159>comparing diarrhea with vomit
>>737637256/thread
>>737585164I would only be pumped if they announce Jonathan's retirement and that he wasn't involved in the development of 0.5
>>737636324Lightning is just the best element. Shock is the best status effect to inflict, ignite is always janky because it doesn't stack and charging one big hit isn't always a practical strategy. Chill/freeze had its buildup heavily nerfed early on because all its damage skills have long cooldowns. cast times, or conditional casting conditions, and the GGG was sick of players using cast on trigger supports to avoid them.Lastly it's just how the actual hit deals damage. The crit focus, projectile spam, high base damage potential of lightning means it always wins the DPS race against the worse clear, single big hits or DoT effects.
>>737589502The POE devs don't understand much of everything. Chris has been exposing that entire company since he left. The POE fanbase is going to be in shambles when he makes his next game. The funny part is Im betting on Johnathan to jump ship and join Chris when he is further in development with his game. Especially with the US Tencent ban looming.
>>737637021Delusion.I have watched it happen over and over again. Any ARPG which doesn't appeal to the lowest common denominator that gives absolutely no fucks about design integrity (or indeed, anything more than dropping nuclear bombs on their dopamine receptors until they turn into drooling cavemen) will inevitably either flop, or compromise itself.
>>737637256>arpg (diablo-like) stands for action rpg>this means something different from action rpgit's dumb af.>>737637278missing the point. i don't like the name conflation going on.
>>737637159You got my meaning, though, which is the important thing. I'm just using the contemporary definitions, which I am aware are also silly.
Poepoo is the worst arpg going and needs to be deleted along with fat gook Jonathan wogers since he's clearly fucking retarded
>>737625536
>>737638195>weapon: flail>holding a stick
>>737638195righteous fire is going to be an active skill with a cooldown that you need to reach some condition to activate for a few seconds
>>737609749more like grim yawn... wait
K R A N G L E DRANGLED
I remember seeing this thread for the last update. What happened, Jonathan? Where did it all go so wrong?
>>737602990>>737612738Is this going to be a base character like in 1 or an ascendancy option?
i requested a week of vacation time after the update, am i retarded
>>737639697Base characterHere ascendancy options for themMarauder>Warlord>Berserker>ChieftainDuelist>Deathmarked>Gladiator>ChampionTemplar>Inquisitor>Heretic>Guardian
>>737615906d2 has loot filters, anon.I realize it's probably been a while since you actually played it, so I'll give you a pass this time.
>>737639837Duelist had better remain a Fabio-Gigachad.
caving in to poo1 babs was the biggest mistake they did, now the game doesn't even know what the fuck it wants to be.0.1 was kino and r*ddit/steamie dads crying they died to the act 1 worm 10+ times was the icing on the cake
>>737639837Will the Marauder get the PoE1 skin that turns you into a scrawny Conan that builds up thickness based on the amount of Strength you have?
>>737641346But they’ve consistently made the game harder with every patch. Patch 0.2 massively increased the health of all enemies, even after they reduced it, and every patch has completely nerfed all the overpowered and auto-bomber builds.
>>7376413460.1 was only so difficult because it was a new game to learn, ground loot was fucked, and the game was so barebones.
>>737641857Don't respond to pooposters. They're terminally-online shitspammers who literally do anything for a (You).
>>737639837No way they don't do some "<noun> of <figure>" ascendancy in at least one of these. I'm also hoping Templar at least has a reliquarian-like ascendancy as I think that would thematically fit rather well.
>>737639827yes, you’re fucking pathetic if your life revolves around live service slop
>>737642870>"<noun> of <figure>"There are only three ascendancies like this in PoE 2 and they all relate to PoE 2 characters. Ranger’s third ascendancy is Arcane Archer and it too doesn’t break this naming convention
>>737643237>only three ascendancies like thisYes, I'm aware but they still could.>Arcane ArcherDamn, looked into this and found high-res portraits of what indeed looks like an Arcane Archer and the Huntress's Beastmaster. If true, that is supremely boring. Two ranged bow ascendancies but one is more magical? Maybe the implementation is different enough from Deadeye but damn I'm disappointed.
>>737642975it does
>>737643774We also know that Monk is getting Martial Artist ascendancy but there’s still no artwork for itAnd Huntress one is called Wild Speaker
>>737585238>Keepers league official trailer: 800k views>6 months later, Mirage league official trailer: 10 million viewsHilarious
POE2 = BAD
>>737625690Nope. poop2 fanatics tried to memoryhole it because they couldn't refute it. Still true to this day.
>>737625476/thread
god I hope they announce some changes to defenses so ES doesn't continue to just mog everything forever.
I was playing during the beta and I thought half the classes weren't implemented because the skill placeholder videos weren't in yet, and I thought it meant the character wasn't available, so I ended up making 3 archers
>>737585164>Path of Exile 2 0.5.0 is going to be the biggest update yet,Prove it.
>Poe 2 is great!>if you enjoy lightning archer
>>737639837they got rid of juggernaut? wtf
>>737646606The only ability that I like in POE2 is Spark.
STOP PLAYING POE1!!!!!!!!!!!
>>737647473i
i want to have sex with lily
>>737647473begone troon
>>737647594This guy is a big time retard. Why'd they let him ruin the franchise again?
>>737627294Well now I see that issue, you don't want to play a game, you want to play a dry optimization puzzle
>>737627751You have poe1 for that already, I dont want what you want for poe2
When's it going f2p? I ain't paying for grindslop.
0.5 waiting room
>>737629418He was known for playing diablo immortal, that should tell you all you need to know about his opinionsI don't know why anyone even bothers with that fag
>>737649926When it goes 1.0 in ten years.
>>737627294i bet if you actually tracked accurately how much time you spend in combat vs not in combat, during the campaign, you would see precisely how wrong and retarded you are
>>737649713He does what Daddy Tencent says
>>737650307That sucks...
>>737585164I like this game somewhat, good shit in it>Looks really good>WASD and dodge gameplay is mostly fun when you have movespeed for once>abilities are cool>characters have fun personalitiesBut when you get to the actual meat, jesus christ man what are they thinking>conditionals on conditionals on conditionals>use weak skills (purposefully) to get stacks/buffs to use with strong skill (purposefully)Combo gimmicks suck and GGG needs to realize that unless a combo is simple and quick ala lightning rod + lightning arrow, it just isn't fun to play. Druid in particular had it bad outside of high budget automation setups>Werewolf's only TWO damaging skills are autoattacks and cross-slash>need to use leap to generate wolves and marks for cross explosion and more damage via buffs>need to use lunar howl to get damage buffs>need to use freeze to be able to get more damage on rend or cross-slashI don't want to play a fucking fighting game just to kill a blue mob in act 3
>>737625690TRVKE!
I love that you can always tell that the complainers are brain-rotted POE1 tradetrannies who HATE video games and HATE having to play them but would NEVER EVER just play Diablo 4 despite that being their ideal game>Wahhh POE2 has builds with more than one button!>Wahhhh Jonathan ruined POE by making a game with gameplay that wasn't like pulling teeth!>Why won't they just change POE2 to be more like POE1 so that I don't have to learn a new game and can just go back to playing PooX's RF Chieftain?>How could GGG fucking ruin POE2 by having characters that are literally unplayable during leveling? (Huntress is mediocre for literally 20 minutes of the campaign then plays as effectively as everyone else)
>>737650406>NO NO NO NO NO>GGG>GGG FIX THIS NOW>GGG I DON'T WANT TO PRESS BUTTONS I FUCKING HATE VIDEO GAMES>GGG YOU NEED TO LEARN FROM THE ONLY GOOD BUILD WHICH WAS [The most braindead build POE2 has ever had]>GGG WHAT ARE YOU THINKING>I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PRESS BUTTONS TO KILL ENEMIES I WANT TO PRESS ONE BUTTON AND KILL EVERYTHING AND GET MY AWAKENED MIRROR SO I CAN POST IT TO REDDIT
>>737635761Did the ice expansion get cancelled or something?
>I love that you can always tell that the complainers are brain-rotted POE1 tradetrannies who HATE video games and HATE having to play them but would NEVER EVER just play Diablo 4 despite that being their ideal game>>Wahhh POE2 has builds with more than one button!>>Wahhhh Jonathan ruined POE by making a game with gameplay that wasn't like pulling teeth!>>Why won't they just change POE2 to be more like POE1 so that I don't have to learn a new game and can just go back to playing PooX's RF Chieftain?>>How could GGG fucking ruin POE2 by having characters that are literally unplayable during leveling? (Huntress is mediocre for literally 20 minutes of the campaign then plays as effectively as everyone else)
>>737650615I don't even mind combos, but there's a clear difference between fun viable combos that are quick and don't require piano knowledge vs combos that are asscancer and require every button on your bar. And this is coming from someone that willingly plays warcries with no automation
>>737650406>Combo gimmicks suckFucking delete this!Combos are fucking cool, it doesn't matter that all build play the same, okay?
>>737639087I don't think the skill wiil work at all unless you get an absurd amount of fire res since hp and hp regen passives in POE2 are notoriously useless.
>>737641346truest statement in this whole thread
>>737650662No it's supposed to be within the next two months
>>737650971troonest*ftfy
Tri won.
>>737600849Personally I think the problem is that progression feels gated by the campaign.They should have just made act 3-6 have mapping integrated. Imagine maps that also have story elements and act bosses, while still being able to be juiced as far as you can push it, allowing you to engage with atlas mechanics. It would be kino.
This game is a tranny magnet. You’re all retarded trannies. Sad!
BIG shit
>>737651076No I don't think about dicks all day anon
>>737643774>Two ranged bow ascendancies but one is more magical? Maybe the implementation is different enough from Deadeye but damn I'm disappointed.Well ascendencies in poe aren't like subclasses in other games. You aren't always beholden to the playstyle that the ascendency might be describing to you. Many builds in both games will pick an one just because it gives op buffs to move speed or fire damage, so then you can use whatever skill you feel like. Arcane Archer may just give elemental damage or mana buffs so you can still go melee. Beastmaster might buff minion's stats in general so you can go skeletons or spectres, etc.
>>737650884>cuck skill>buff skill>damage skill (x3)>repeatThere's only a few cool combos I find interesting to setup, and there's a few exceptions like ED/C with Totem or LR/LA. I blame GGG for keeping all the numbers low as hell
>>737651184Tragic and sad..! A big stinky poopoo for pootrannies, uh ohhhh!!!!!!
>>737636876>The problem with nuPoE has always been that it degenerates to a binary where the most optimal defensive strategy is to kill everything on the screen before it can move, which means the devs balance things to kill characters that deal infinite damage in a large area, which means builds which don't deal infinite damage in a large area end up completely eating shit.>They're building around those builds getting hit once, very occasionally, when their retard faceroll build fails to path through a shrub. So they balance that one hit to be threatening. Then somebody comes along and plays a build with modest damage and wants to be tanky, but they take ten of those hits and die and wonder why they feel fragile even though they picked the 'right' defensive options.I fucking god damn hate this shit more than anything. My favorite build in these games is always some invincible fuck who will autoattack bosses to death because no matter what the game throws at me it won't be enough to even scratch me.The cost of such builds usually is being left with nothing but a boring ass autoattack as your offense, but I don't care. Except in every post PoE ARPG such a build isn't possible because everybody just copies the most successful game in the market.
>>737651083That temple building mechanic was so dogshit.I play ARPGs so I obviously don't mind grinding and wasting time, but that was too much even for a game like this.
>>737651892>Play the game "normally">Vaal temples aren't even worth the time to run, rewards are atrocious dogshit and that's after several buffs by GGG to make them worth the time to run>Play the game as an autistic freakshow spending 200+ hours and making new characters to minmax temple creation in a way that makes OG Harvest look like Mirage>Single most rewarding league mechanic ever introduced that prints divines by the hundreds and mirrors galoreI look forward to seeing how temples get reworked to kneecap juicing strats while making it actually playable for nonjuicers.
Butthurt Diablo 4 trannies are so obvious.
>>737585164>Is anyone pumped for a patch after 6 months?No nigger
>mfw Blizzoids coming into POE threads to shart and squealThis is not confident behavior. They are scared.
>>737652496They aren’t scared, they’ve already lost. There was a time when Diablo was the leading ARPG, but those days are long gone. The current Diablo is merely a shadow of its former self. Whatever problems Poe has, they are nothing compared to the problems that modern Diablo has. These games will still sell and be successful, but it won’t be a triumph. Diablo 4 and 2 remastered are just like the modern-day World of Warcraft. The people who play these games don’t give a shit, they’re stuck in this cycle of nostalgia.
>>737641857I haven't actually played since 0.1 did they make loot a bit better? I remember struggling because nothing good would drop while progressing through it. I couldn't tell if I was just unlucky or just bad at picking out what loot was good, POE2 is my first ARPG like this I've ever played so I don't exactly know what I'm doing with builds but nothing I picked up really felt impressive.
>>737653141Diablo 4 has made more money than both PoEs combined ever will thoughbeitit is the better game and no amount of chinese bootlicking will change it
>>737653503You're doing a real shit job shilling your product.
>>737653558keep seething more, Jonatroon.
>>737653606No one wants to play your dead game.
>>737653453They’ve significantly increased the amount of loot on the ground, but unfortunately most of it is still complete useless junk. They’ve also added a few mechanics that drop loads of loot, the latest of which has literally broken the economy. The current league is suffering from massive inflation.>>737653503Modern WoW is still making crazy amounts of money, but that doesn’t make it a good game lol. Blizzard faggots are literally cattle who will buy anything.
>>737653646but enough about poop2 LOL
>>737585164Dropped it 2 months after release but planned to come back someday. Sure doesn't help that whenever I checked what's new, there was a nigger or a woman on the cover, sometimes both
>playing streamerslop
>>737607802The best ARPG on the market, that was still a colossal pile of fucking dogshit that barely even worked (the rest were worse)
>>737653706>Modern WoW is still making crazy amounts of moneyI don't even know if this is true desu. People thought Fortnite was making crazy money too only for 1000 people to get fired because they were in fact just losing tons of money on running the game
>>737653453Not really.I played 0.4 because people claimed they fixed EVERYTHING and still felt starved for decent loot compared to PoE1. Not sure why they refuse to port over the crafting bench.
>>737585164>le biggest le update in LE YEARSshut the fuck up PoE marketeer faggotyour shit game has been the BIGGEST FUCKING FAILURE TO DATE EVER RELEASED TO THE ENTIRE A-ARPG GENRE THE MANKIND HAS SEEN - EVER - Literally slow as fuck, boring, shit as fuck campaign made for console and mobile audience SHIT SYSTEMS BORING BLOATED CONTENT that nobody cares about at all you can't even name 2 people that care about this shit gameShill your piece of shit Tencent shovelware somewhere elese but not here. We don't like PoE2 here. We don't play PoE2 here.Imagine being TWO FUCKING YEARS IN EARLY ACCESS. Nobody falls for cash grabbing SHOVELWARE UNFINISHED BUGGED TO THE LIMIT TRASH GAME. Go back to fixing your SHIT GAME. Fuck you and your early access game. Simple as.
>>737647473Lilly owes me Sex btw
>>737647594no.
>>737654091Fortnite is a special case because they’ve bloated the development team to hell.
>>737654091most of wow is outsourced to internal microsoft AI farms / jeet interns so it runs very lean
>>737647473>You now remember how he slipped some Hebrew on streamLmao
Have they picked which of the two game are they developing? The slow paced methodical souls-like APRG or whatever buzzword they used for marketing 0.1 or the zoomzoom mapblaster 3000? Because last time I played it tried to be both and sucked at both.
>>737655695These are the builds they’re promoting on their channelhttps://youtu.be/sKDhAwOf55g?si=0cqfapGTxI9nwlRThttps://youtu.be/1a-NFHRpPvM?si=Um6W6mVH0HnOH5H-
>>737654907>>737654969Yeah I guess it's true they mostly have jeets and other useless cheap labour doing their content these days. But I was mostly basing my opinion on the fact that they keep grasping at anything they can to maintain subs. Rereleasing every single version of WoW in the "classic" package, SoD etc etc. It just feels like they're at that stage of a game where they're trying to milk out the very last profit they can.
>>737656629>they're trying to milk out the very last profit they can.They've been doing that since they added the cash shop in wotlk
>>737656629That’s right. That’s the motto of modern Blizzard: maximise revenue and minimise costs. Fortnite isn't like that at all, Timmy just wasted money hoping for endless growth
>>737636178Retard.
>>737585164Poop Of Excrement II
>>737585164What's even in it
>>737655152>Hebrewlollmao even
>>737658297We don’t know. All we’ve got is a short teaser and one of the community managers posting a meme from Gladiator. They’ve also updated the artwork and descriptions for the three classes, but that doesn’t mean a thing.
>>737658501Then what makes it the biggest update ever
>>737658562The amount of content.All we know is they're doing an endgame overhaul because the current one sucks.
>>737658562>Then what makes it the biggest update everThe number of jeet viral marketers they’re paying to shill it here and everywhere
>>737658562We don’t know. They’ve simply postponed the update by a month and said it will be the biggest update they’ve ever released.
>>737654460mad dilator lmao
>>737658562>endgame overhaul>new class>new league mechanic>new weapon(s?)those things alone make it the biggest update since 0.1 and there may be more.
>>737656389they always do shit builds to promote their idealized version of the game. But the game will never be balanced around those trash builds
This poe 1 league is probably gonna go down as one of the best ones desu
>>737661898>Literally the most mind-numbingly dull slop imaginable>One of the most successful leagues in Poe 1That says a lot
>>737661898I better not catch you enjoying shit boy
>>737585164Why does poe2 mindbreak /v/ so much? Is it because it cost money atm and they are locked out or something
>>737654460tradetranny meltie
>>737629418I hate him because he looks gross and his voice pisses me off, and I used to watch asmongold when he played wow, so I've got a tolerance
>>737662224ARPG's attract mental illness and the unemployed. Many of these schizo's feel slighted that the sequel isn't a pristine copy of the original so they'll dedicate their lives to shitting on it in some misguided quest for revenge. It costing money probably doesn't help.
>>737662224A good chunk of it is exactly that. Remember that PoE1 is F2P so it has endless hordes of thirdies playing it who were priced out of PoE2 (they would've been priced out of PoE2 even if it cost fifty cents) and have endless time on their hands to shit on message boards about it.
Campaign skips when?I am sick of arpgs having long ass campaigns
