>You must prevent the villain from gathering the Seven Cock Rings of Darkness>The entire game is spent failing to prevent the villain from gathering the Seven Cock Rings of Darkness
>>737590132whats annoying about this trope is that its so easy to fix it>whoever owns most mcguffins gains the mcguffin power>its a race between protag and villain to get the most>protag and villain both get three>finale revolves around the final mcguffinat that point it doesnt matter what happens to the final one, it just changes the stakes of the final battle.
>you gather all 7 but actually that was the villain's plan all along
>>737590132>You must prevent the villain from gathering the Seven Cock Rings of DarknessHm, I think this will be the plot of my WEG
>>737590132Man it's fine if the villain foils you by being actually strong and wrecking you in an almost fair right, or if he comes up with smart stratagems to make you lose, but that's too ambitious for 99.9999 of devs to risk developing around. So instead you get a cutscene of your main party tripping on air and the cock ring of rainbows landing gracefully on the villain's cock. "Oops, foiled again", and you feel like the game is fucking your wife even though you're 12. Really annoying
>the cooler/more thematically relevant villain you spent most of the game fighting is just a jobber for the real villain
>>737593064Fucking Zant manNobody expects the shoehorned Dorf train
>>737590132>>737592982>You prevent the villain from gathering the rings, but your creepy, moustache-twirling mentor who sent you on the quest while cackling maniacally was the real villain all along, and you personally delivered the seven rings to him
>>737590132>Party member out of nowhere for no real reason betrays you>Let back in the party a short while laterIt's like one of the writers wanted it so they just forced it in but the others didn't so he came back
>you earn the trust of a powerful ally hyped up in the world, like an old hero, a dragon, a guardian beast, w/e>when its time for them to help you they get their ass kicked or die
>your favorite character in the game either never joins the party or outright sucks compared to everyone else
>>737590132>you succeed in gaining the seven cock rings of darkness but the main villain just ends up taking all of them from you anyway
>>737592706FE:Engage kind of works like this, there's a back-and-forth over who has the most rings over the course of the story.They don't go on your cock though.
>>737592982>Thanks for gathering the keycards Snake!
>>737590132>You actually gather the Seven Cock Rings yourself>It was the villain's plan all along>They were weaker than any cock ring you could make yourself
>>737590132related to this>you spend the entire game gathering the seven cock rings of darkness>the villain just waits for you to find one and then steals it from you>our heroes still just proceed to gather the next one and the whole procedure repeats
>>737592706what I didn't understand in mother 3 was that the final mcguffin was at the bad guy's base, why didn't they just get that one first
>pickpocket system>it's just a hell of savescumming to actually pickpocket even low value shitter items
>>737592706So you're saying we could've waited and let the other guy get 6 of them, and then just beat him up and get them all? That sounds like villain thinking to me!
>>737594678fucking kcd. Didn't even bother fixing it in 2 either
>>737594659game tells you this1) they didn't think to look there2) it was buried really really REALLY deep underground and that digging took time, you were brought to new pork City to celebrate its uncovering
>>737594515>You finally obtain all seven rings>Villain immediately kidnaps one of your party members and demands the seven rings in exchange
>can tank a nuclear bomb to the face>can't tank getting smacked with a stick in a cutscene
>>737594678>Game lets you steal/pickpocket items>1% chance to actually get the item, 99% chance to aggro every single person in town who will wipe the floor with you>Can steal super valuable items the moment you start the game in theory>Completely useless if you play fair, but the most broken skill in the game if you savescumBasically every game with a pickpocket system
>>737590132>thanks brave hero you really saved us from that old cockpocalypse of darkness business, that would have been really bad i guess hahabut what if I actually want to see the world get fucked by the cockpocalypse?
>>737595015On the same note, steal-exclusive items. Why can't I just stab the guy through the throat and loot his corpse? I'm already going to kill him to begin with, why am I trying to steal his rare bracelet before that happens?
>your comrade with a goatee is strangely confrontational>zomg he was evil the whole time!
>>737595015On that note,>blue magic
>>737595503>you need to get another class to control this enemy>and another class to cast reflect>and the blue mage class to actually get hit by it>and the blue mage has to be a set level to get hit by it>and the blue mage has to be revived after battle>and you need a guide to know any of this
>Hints throughout the entire game about the villain's true intentions and motivations>Nope, that was all make believe bullshit for him to appear more sympathetic, but he is actually that evil.
I know why this happens, but...>Status effects cannot affect bosses>Is a waste on regular enemies
>it's finally time to attack the last boss's fortress in a last ditch attempt to stop him from activating the ruin everything forever device>by the way you also just unlocked 20 hours of additional side quests that will completely stall the game's narrative momentum as well as trivialize the difficulty of the final dungeonfucking hate it when games do this
>uh the final boss is like the abstract representation of apprehension or something, anyway go fight some giant angry face shooting laser beams at you in some abstract gay glowing neon polygon meta bullshit
>Get the GIGASPELL OF WORLD ANNIHILATION: FINAL RAGNAROK (TRUE FORM)>Actually fucking useless in combat, you forget you have it until the final section of the game where you use it in a scripted fight
>pass through roadblock>there's another roadblock instantly after>there's nothing in the space between
>>737596190It's probably worse when you get an ultimate spell or piece of equipment... in the final dungeon. No there is no New Game+.
>>737594897>you know the villain's master plan >you get to the cock ring of darkness animancy hearings beforehand and lay an ambush>MC stands around like a moron while the villain takes 25 turns unimpeded in a cutscene and steals the cockringPoE was insulting on so many levels
>>737595801Oblivion doesn't even wait till the last quest to do this. It straight up does it at the end of the tutorial. Even Skyrim took a few main quests before it reached the "The worlds about to end hurry get the Seven Cockrings GO! GO! GO!" part.
>HURDUR U R DUH CHOSEN 1>HURDUR IT IS UR DESTINEE>no other reasoning given for why the protagonist has to go through the gameeven as a kid I hated this shit and thought it was a retarded cop-out, so it was extra annoying to see both of them used in the same game
>>737596319top 10 metroidvania fuck yous
>>737590132>you get them all>villain comes in and steals them from you
>>737597017skies of arcadia was so fucking good
>>737597017This is kino. The plot twist? It was the guy at the beginning who told you to get those in order to be destroyed.
>>737596693>you are totally not the chosen one, just a normal joe schmuck!>who somehow gains experience at 623523463% the rate of anything else to ever exist in the setting>who goes from peasant fighting rats to big dick demi god slayer in 6 months gametime>I grinded for it though, I spent 20 hours grinding, I earned it!>despite something as "simple" in comparison as learning to play an instrument taking 100's of hours irlDunno man, I mean the chosen one trope can certainly be handled very poorly, but if not done too in the mout,h it seems more honest and straightforward than insecurity man bargaining with his own inferiority complexes to be allowed to have an escapist power fantasy in a video game
>game progress is interrupted halfway through by an open-ended gathering questAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737597139This is some weird cope. The difference is that its a built in mechanic and you need to put yourself in danger to being killed in order to gain power and strength. At any point it could be a literal game over. Would any normal person go about killing things as a job if they had other means available? NO. They would stick their head down and not want anything to fucking do with it. Unless forced through war.
>>737590132>establish villain>hype up final showdown with villain>get to villain>he immediately dies in a cutscene with no boss fightFuck you, Star Fox Adventures.
>>737594748thats another peak anti-kino tropebeing smart and pragmatic is seen as bad or evil
>>737597321>At any point it could be a literal game over.Ever heard or reload save?
>>737590132>protag collects the final cock ring>villain kidnaps one of his friends and gets all of themTruly one of the shittiest tropes
>ending fakeout where the REAL EVIL shows up and forces you to grind your ass off to have a shot
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>>737594897>>737596565Cutscene incompetence is one of the shittiest vidya tropes for sure
>>737594678Memories of sitting around as Therion in Octopath Traveler reloading 3% pickpocket attempts for the best equipment
>>737597560You don't have those IRL, do you want to press your luck kid? DO YOU!?
>top tier gear locked behind mashing A on a slot machine until you win enough coins
>>737597356RE9 very recently with Not-Wesker, that was some lame shit.
>>737597794Your character in the game has it. In fact, he is the only entity in the entire universe that has it, totally-not-chosen-oneWell, except a few for meme meta games that usually do nothing interesting with it except for deleting your save and gay shit like that
>>737592706but then the villain can't use mcguffin to become the abstraction of light and darkness dragon god of destiny that you fight as the final boss
>>737593429This surprisingly got no (You)'s seeing as how common it is. I wish developers would let the characters they hype up live up to it ffs.
it's not a video game, but I think the best usage of this format was Kamen Rider OOO. The heroes and villains aren't just in this constant fight to gather all the magic bullshit items but are actively and constantly swapping who has what at any given time. Combine that with each piece offering its own distinct powers and you have the hero regularly being forced to rely on less-than-optimal solutions to his problems because it's the best he can do with what he's got on hand at that moment.
>>737590132>you have failed at every turn to prevent the villains from gathering the seven cockrings of darkness>BUT the villains were correct to be gathering the seven cockrings of darkness>now YOU must collect the seven cockrings of darkness and carry out the villains' planABSOLUTECINEMA
>>737594890>villain takes all your cockrings halfway through the game and you have to find new ones in order to get them back>unless you have the DLC, in which case you don't really care because he didn't take your DLC cockrings
>>737597705>absolutely thrash the boss in battle>no sign of the boss holding back>suddenly get your ass beat in the cutsceneeither make the battle a scripted loss or dont do it at all.
>>737595336https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY
>weight systemStop limiting inventory with this method. Nobody wants to fast travel to a player house just to dump shit in a locker and head back out.
>>737593429>>737598091This is kinda the Obi Wan curse, any old hero/mentor is fated to die to give way to the teen protagonists and their hero's journey. I actually can't remember a single game where they let you team up with an old hero and don't kill him off.
>movement limited by ability scoreOf all the things BG3 did that annoy me, this was the fucking worst.
>>737594748No cause he'd have majority by then and would have the macguffin power, keep up.
>>737598916think it's more common to see the "rival/antagonist turned partner" issue where they're suddenly missing all the cool and strong abilities they had when you were fighting them
>>737598916E N T E R
>You and your wife aren't actually related
>>737598589Scripted losses often feel like shit especially if you chugged a bunch of potions thinking it wasn't scripted. Better is being 3rd partied or being overwhelmed by reinforcements, so you at least keep your initial win.
>you beat the stage/won the fight>but not really because the arbitrary ranking system says you did poorly so you have to replay the fight if you want to actually unlock shit
>>737598916
>>737599642It applies so hard he's dead before the story even begins
>stealth game>the reward for not being seen is so massive that any playstyle that doesn't involve savescumming to not be seen is pointless
>>737600004Inversely>Stealth game>The reward for being a ghost is about the same as playing it as a shooter where you die in a couple of hits.
>>737600105Or even worse>stealth game>the only reward for being a ghost is that the game takes five times longer and is really fucking boringOdyssey had me questioning some design choices let me tell you
>>737595015There's tons of games with decent pickpocket systems. It sounds like you're just playing shit games.Divinity comes to mind.
>>737599059Completely forgot this guy, a shame that all of FFT's characters have no story presence once they permanently join your party>>737599642He actually manages to die twice over the course of the story, but it's nice how we do get to travel with him for most of the game
>>737600237Dishonored is a bit like that, it's full of fun combat mechanics but the good ending's locked behind killing as little as possible
>>737600237>>737600105Reminds me>Stealth Game>Has an XP system>The most XP comes from kills>Alerting enemies summons more enemies, thus more people to kill
>>737600508that sounds specific
>>737600508Guess what, Odyssey has that even worse too. Killing gives bounty. Bounty hunters come with more bounty, and are basically high-end loot pinatas.
>>737596319And people will claim HoD has good exploration.Fuck this game, man. CotM mogs it every day of the week.
>>737600694nigga no one likes Harmony of Dissonance
You fags will argue about anything
>>737598683yeah, weight systems should be reserved for stuffing your face instead of stuffing your pockets.shitpost aside, most games do inventory limits completely wrong. its not just weight limits.in almost all cases there's no actual use for the limit aside from artificial difficulty.i think the system shock 1 remake is the most egregious example.in the original, you just had unlocks for guns, and then ammo counts.in the remake, you now have a limited inventory. not only is this a massive change to the balance, but you still lose access to the rest of the space station during the finale. so unless you take an hour to drag every gun, all your ammo, all your grenades, and all your consumables up to the final elevator one by one then you'll lose all of it and you could fuck yourself over by just not knowing about this and not having enough for the finale.
>>737599059Too bad he's basically useless because you get him literally minutes before the end of the game, so even your generics out-class him.
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>>737590132>the Seven Cock Rings of Darkness have been unleashed>Now you must go forth and collect each one of their corresponding Seven Clit Rings of Light to undo their dark power which has corrupted the land and defeat the Cock Lord's Seven Evil Cock Generals in their Cock Fortresses.
>ultra rapefag boss in the endgame>easier fight than a large angry bunny you fight in the earlygame
>>737594897Related:>one man killing machine>hundreds dead in your wake>get bonked by one goon who surprised you in a cutscene and stripped of all your gear
>>737590132what about the inverse of this?>you must defeat the villain by gathering the Seven Ball Rings of Light>the entire game is spent collecting the Seven Ball Rings of Light
>>737590132>Villain initially gets introduced having a reasonable motivation like wanting to usurp power or get revenge>Halfway through the story the motivation changes to some retarded metaphysical shit like harnessing the power of darkness to beat back the light
>>737600508I used that to powerlevel in Dying Light, at a certain point you get strong enough to easily kill volatiles and it's great for combat xp.
>>737600916Do Hurrfags REALLY?
>>737595336This but a guy with glasses and his glasses flash when he adjusts them.
>>737600465>Wind up killing a ton of people>Rats feed off of corpses and plague spreadsHonestly, a pretty damned good reason why killing is a bad idea.
>Cockrings are all in extremely secure locations with guardians, puzzles, and traps>No one ever questions if just leaving them there might be a better option than delivering them to Sir Not'atraitor or Sir Jobber.>Villain gets all the cockrings, and his dick pierces the heavens, granting him god-like power and throwing the world into chaos>Heroes just waltz over to his lair and kill him>No one ever wonders why they didn't just do that to begin with
>if you kill him, you'll be just like him
>>737605670>Ancient Mcguffin Cock Rings are in a dungeon, has not been pried in centuries>Has regular mooks and modern armour/gear locked inside
>>737590132>you succeed in collecting all the cock rings before his minions do>he steals all of them directly from you right after
>>737597705>game about getting loot with big numbers so you can facetank and kill shit inhumanly well>former playable character in the sequel dies in one fucking shot>it's not even from a special gun or anything, they just lack a basic piece of equipment literally anybody worth their salt in the setting would own>other named ally jobs on the spot>the player character stands there and can't prevent any of this for some reasonBorderlands 2 has to have the single dumbest implementation of this from both a narrative and gameplay perspective.
>villain succeeds and become god>you can just beat him in a battle normally anyway
>>737590132Why does it have to be seven? Why not 24 cock rings?
>>737606445One for each deadly sin :^)
>>737606474>Cockring Guardian of Wrath: Angry guy>Cockring Guardian of Gluttony: Gross fat guy>Cockring Guardian of Lust: Sexy evil woman (with a cock I guess?)>Cockring Guardian of Greed: Goooold!
>>737590132>strongest and most dangerous person in a villian group is a random little kid
