The game is saved, and one man did it. We've never been so back.
>>737592468>The game is saved, and one man did it.what did he do?
You Will (Not) Unsub
>>737592468>Post yfw when this appeared.
Doomers who cared won.
>1000 fat Y'shtolas
Shitolafags...
post the qt cosplays if they show up
Kind of pisses me off the dude who could have fixed the game was just there the whole time
>>737592574Reworked ALL the Jobs in the game to be far cooler, more unique in their fantasy and mechanics, and resolved several retarded issues that the game took years to even acknowledge were issues in the first place.
So now every two minutes you need to do enough synergy stuff within the last two minutes to refresh a buff for another two minutes?
>>737592660Dawntrail got a lot of people who needed to be fired fired.
>>737592709I'll believe it when I see the actual buttons
>>737592727the whole 2-minute meta is dead, all synergy abilities are removed
>>737592727WoWfags, watch the stream at least if you're gonna sit here all day shitposting
>fire Kate>game immediately improveskino expansion incoming.
>nophica
>>737592709people were talking about allowing low level jobs to use more actions, right?
>>737592740I'm so glad this proves that the whole community collectively chimping out ACTUALLY caused a meaningful change of direction for the dev team
>>737592746We've already seen Paladin, White Mage, Dragoon, and Bard. All of them feel closer to their Job identity than they have in years.
>>737592468>Tab target combat in 2026>PS3 graphicslol.
>>737592468>people will do one tier, if even that with the new jobs>everyone will complain they feel like shit>can't play the old jobs because they're going to be worse and have core aspect of them removedAnd the cycle will repeat again, same as it has repeated since launch.
>>737592850>Desperately recycling old topics because you know you've lost to hopechads
>hire one league/fighting game autist who loves final fantasy>he makes PvP fun again and was responsible for some of the best eras of some of the jobs>and now he's playing to the game's console-designed strengths to actually make jobs fun againIt really highlights how fucked up games development can get when it's so corporate that no one sees a problem but the one younger member that isn't entrenched.
>>737592810That too. All Jobs in the new 'Evolved' mode get all their major buttons at level 50 (out of 110) and everything after that are just bonus additional finishers and mechanical changes.
>>737592914retard
>>737592647Yshtola, did you eat all my raid food?
okay but does this actually make the classes fun again or is white mage still just boredom simulator?
>>737592940evolved is just a friendlier mode for mobile, right?
Primechad won.EvolveGODS wonJob Fantasy enjoyers won.https://poal.me/hlu8jfhttps://poal.me/hlu8jfhttps://poal.me/hlu8jf
>2 chest / Hector / Braindead spreads / PLD MT - Evolved only
>>737592727Yep, and xivtroons are still gonna praise it like it's a good thing
>the 8.0 job rework is real and its way better than anyone could have possibly imagined
>>737593018Less buttons but higher skill and more dynamic gameplay.
>>737593014hehehe
>>737592606Sweet freedom
>>737592810If you're using Evolved, you'll have your entire basic kit by 50, and your 123 combo (which is now 1-1-1) before the first dungeon. As you level, you'll usually be getting actions that combo off your old ones, so that the hotbar bloat doesn't happen again.
>>737593037>troonswrong game, blizzcuck
>>737593014I hope lalafags will think twice from now on when they post
>>737593070>FFXIV>Skillkek
>>737593015Anon, Evolve White Mage actually has to manually cast cure, and when they GCD cures they get buffs that make their next attacks hit harder.
>>737593014The xiv playerbase
>someone cosplayed as Wukhow tone deaf
>>737593109weird denial
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>737593070>Less buttons but higher skillThose two things are mutually exclusive
>>737593232They're not, but balancetrannies really do believe that.
>>737593196Go clap your buttcheeks in the upcoming troontroll pride parade, faggot
>Paladins parry and cover>White Mages heal.>Bards sing>Dragoons jump.It's beautiful....it's so beautiful...Enough to bring a tear to a man's eyes...
>>737593275damn, struck a nerve?
. . .
>>737592468this is the face of the future director. he has done for 8.x, what yoshi-p did for ARR. the godless saga is HIS saga.
Evolved really highlighted how fucking watered down and sometimes outright missing the core feeling and mechanics of certain Jobs were before now.
>>737593309nerve is what you have to come here after this shit festinstead XIV has NERV
>>737593224cute boy
>>737592952I ate those foodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGbhJjXl9Rk
>>737593375This is your off tank for tonight's reclear.
>>737593375>totalbiscuit moments before using Superbolide
>>737593321MYSTERY NIGGAS
>>737593232a fighting game character has less buttons and special moves than current ff14 jobs, guess which one requires more skill to pilot, and i mean pilot as in the base line to actually use it's tools effectively
>>737593485XIV
Doomtrannies are in absolute shambles. They have NOTHING.
>>737593232PvP already proves you wrong. Aligning your skills (on much shorter CD's) and conditional effects to maximize your damage output is significantly more dependent on individual skill than spreading out 12 different damage buttons across two hotbars that are all differently worded ways of saying "Do damage"
Completely random guess:I'm betting Evolved Machinist will have an ammo gauge which their main combo will consume, and they'll have a reload actions that also buffs them if they exhaust all bullets.Also they're totally getting the sniper rifle as a big fuckoff single-target finisher nuke.
This is your school shooter for the evening.
>>737593398i haven't played wow for 10 years but you sure seem to know a lot about it lmao
All these new cool shit won't matter if most of the content are snoozefest shit outside of the hardest onesYou probably won't even care about using that parry or that dodge shot at all in said snoozefest shit
please tell me the 24-man will be good this time
I’m not sold yet until they get rid of the WoW gameplay and make it like SOPFFOI’m sorry but the gameplay in both WoW and XIV are bad and I hope we get an update to where the game gets changed to an ARPG
>>737593615
>i haven't player wow since 5ever>folderdumps a wow ss by errorsure buddy
Based Dulia cosplayer. The best one.
SAM is definetly going to have Zantetsuken, but i wonder how its going to be implemented. Maybe a 20k potency skill on a five minude CD?
Can I get a qrd on how the game is saved
>>737593710That's my patron goddess right there
>the FFXIV playerbase barely has any black peopleI thought the come home white man posts were a joke
>>7375937842 minute meta is deadJobs have actual Final Fantasy identityBalancetrannies tying nooses as we speak
Do people still do Island Sanctuary?
Really curious how BLM is gonna work.
>>737593818This is just a reminder that we can't ever let balancetards get a say. Its their fault shit got so messed up anyways. If anyone complains that x job clears content 5% faster than y job, behead them on the spot
>>737593806game don't have a ball or a (first person) gun in it
>>737593818>actual final fantasy identityI'm real stupid, what does this mean and how?
>>737593806blacks and browns can only play f2p or "work your ass farming to buy a sub with in game currency" games cause they are poor
>>737592468DT ended and the game is savedBut my friends are not here to see it
>>737593652The reason that all of the recent content has been flopping and not played isn't because it's not HARDCORE enough, it's because the jobs are so monotonous and uninteresting to play. If the Evolved mode works out and jobs have some special spice to them again, you can multiply the milage you get out of ANY kind of gameplay content by playing it on different jobs.
>>737593615she cute
>>737593849Nah. Only go back to get some dyes once in a blue moon. Instead of making them solo progression only, they should have functioned as an alternative fc house where multiple people can contribute in some form.
>>737593927DRG focuses on jumping, can do a jump attack that leaves them airborne for like 5 seconds with a 90% damage reduction so you use it the way you would in any single player FF.Party buffs are gone so now they're a unique ability of jobs like BRD. BRD revolves entirely around their songs activating certain skills and gets a kino dodge shot that moves them in any direction they want.WHM is all about GCD healing again and gets rewarded with a classic style Holy spell for healing.PLD rushes to party members to Cover them now.
>>737593927dragoon can now do its pvp limit break jump, just like how a dragoon should. and you get 90% mitigation while out of combat and drop back down with BIG damage
>>737594030Anon, she's fat.
>>737593872same, I'm nervous. The current 7.4 is really nice though so at least I'll be able to keep playing this if the evolved version sucks
>>737593927It means they have the feel of the classes from the classic days of the franchise. Dragoon jumping, stuff like that
>>737593124How does that make it more fun? Looking at the presentation it makes it significantly easier because you no longer have to worry about timing ogcds into your rotation due to all attack gcds having instant cast time. Their fix for making white mage just spamming 1 attack skill is just making it so the skill changes into a different skill every second cast but functionally that literally doesn't change anything?The sanctity thing I like but again it doesn't actually fix the fact that white mage is boring as shit to play now.
>>737594080yea, that's why I said "she's cute" not "she's hot"
>>737594103>>737594069>>737594068Okay I think I see what you're saying now. Thanks fellas. I never beat the base campaign, I got kinda bored
>>737592468thank you marketeer the game really is saved!
>>737594163canon wol
>>737594112>Their fix for making white mage just spamming 1 attack skill is just making it so the skill changes into a different skill every second cast but functionally that literally doesn't change anything?Speaking as a PCT that actually does matter and make it feel better. But that's also not even the real fix. The real fix is making them GCD heal instead and giving them a big attack that increases based on how much they GCD healed. Now they're not spamming one button anymore, they're swapping between heals and attacks as the fight demands.
>>737594112WHM was never going to be good. It's the designated retard/noob healer. SCH and AST will be the jobs for people with more than two brain cells to rub together.
I like the WHM evolved changes so far. It feels a lot more like 2.x WHM where you had to be using gcd heals constantly otherwise the tanks would get mulched in high level content
>>737594112nta, but the idea to me looks like they're doing what they should have been doing from the start, and making a Job that appeals to everyone, instead of trying to make every Job equally easy for everyone. There will be people who enjoy playing basic healer bots that just focus on bringing big heals, if they need to devote more brainpower to analyzing mechanics or are just normies for instance. If this is going the way I think it is, you'll probably have AST or SGE be the more fast-paced healers who don't need to stand around in one place casting heals, to diversify how you want to play healer.
>>737594163Actually good-looking men play this game?
Is Omega as fun to fight in this gay MMO as he is in Monster Munter Milds
>>737594340of course, you're here
>>737593015They showed off four jobs>PLDBasically removed button bloat and added shield swipe back in. Goes either way really. Evolved gets pvp cover>DrgJust a s a whole seems very different but I don't play the class so I can't comment>BRDWholly different; songs are now all utility with no damage. Rotation seems more freeform. New movement ability changes depending on what direction you're holding when using it. Hard to say because party buffs are removed as a whole so who knows what reborn brd looks like>WhmGenuinely incomprehensible. Glare is now an instant cast and you basically get a second blood lilly. I don't know what the fuck they're doing with this
>>737594374he made sure you knew your Starboards from your Larboards
>>737593643didn't know jerma played ff14
>>737594407>Genuinely incomprehensible. Glare is now an instant cast and you basically get a second blood lilly. I don't know what the fuck they're doing with thisit depends on how the fights are, if the fights require more gcd healing then instant cast glare makes more sense. and the second blood lily makes more sense since you will be gcd healing more for big damage
>>737594387A-anon...
>>737594387thanks anon, I smiled...
>>737594407>Whm>Genuinely incomprehensibleThey're just forcing you to GCD heal.
>>737594201I dropped the game before dawntrail so correct me if they did actually fix this, but the entire problem was that white mage could just shit out ogcds because of how low the actual requirement for healing is in most content (you missed the whole healer drama and the fact people can literally just clear most content without any healers at all?), from the presentation they still have lilies and everything. So unless they also heavily increase the amount of healing required for basic content this doesn't actually change anything.>>737594305But yeah I do just assume that's what they want WHM to be, I always liked white mage as I played it back when fucking cleric stance was still a thing but the class just isn't for me anymore if the identity of the class is literally just >I want to be a healer but I am mentally retarded
>>737594496Did you know that Sinister means left handed and Dexter means right handed? That's why the new dragoon positionals skills are called Sinister and Dexter. You might also recognize Sinister from meaning evil, that's correct, lefties are all evil. Also Dexter as in dexterous
>>737594374You better learn your Starboard and Larboard.
Cautiously optimistic. I hope MNK plays good.Also, are we getting FANTA'd at the end of the NGE AR?
The only fun part of this game is solving the fights blind. Farming endgame content is incredibly boring since you always press the same buttons in the same order and do your choregraphed dance while hoping your teammates don't fuck up their steps.Are they changing this?
>>737594387
So XIV is just gonna become another unbalanced mess to cater to retard dadgamers...
>>737594549....which is what lillies did now. Well, less forced but still
>>737594575>but the entire problem was that white mage could just shit out ogcds because of how low the actual requirement for healing is in most contentYeah, and now they can't.>you missed the whole healer drama and the fact people can literally just clear most content without any healers at all?That's because of tank healing abilities, and tanks are being changed too. >from the presentation they still have lilies and everythingLilies are GCD heals.
Will DRK get ACTUAL Souleater now
>>737594658>Are they changing this?Nope. You will press the same buttons over and over again, and pay for the privilege.
>>737592760I never really played FFXIV, but does this mean what I think it means? Every DPS class revolves around their own ~2 minute cooldown ability with ~10-15 second uptimes, and the whole meta is syncing that up with the rest of the party?The same retarded shit wow did?
>>737594668hahaha imagine being a balancefagi bet you worry about income equity too
>>737594712I pray Mr. Prime is that based how does it play in pvp? Does it have HP sacrificing moves?
>>737594703>....which is what lillies did now.Nobody uses lilies for the heals right now. They're used for movement and to prep Afflatus for buff windows.
>>737594734Yes you are correct in your assumption.
>>737594734It's been that way for a long long time yes. Today they announced they're killing it for good
>>737594734>Every DPS class revolves around their own ~2 minute cooldown ability with ~10-15 second uptimes, and the whole meta is syncing that up with the rest of the party?For now, yes. But that's dead when 8.0 launches. Naturally parsetrannies are melting.
>>737594734Ding dong the witch is dead
>>737594734wow literally copied the worst aspect of ff14 and ff14 got rid of it completely lmfao
>>737593710Los guar-dia-nes del UUUUniverso
what's the best class so far. what's the good looking class?
so... this is the wol from another reflection that is much more cooler than you? much like adbert?
>>737594761>>737594761>Does it have HP sacrificing moves?hp cost skills and hp absorb, skills that scale with low and high hp, limit break puts you onto 1HP and makes you invuln
>>737594791>>737594812>>737594826>>737594841>>737594873Well, I don't know which shadow cult infiltrated every MMO, but I'm glad FFXIV players might be free.
>>737595010that sounds awesome, haven't touched pvp since before CC
i am convinced, the game is saved
>>737594668>MMO>BalanceNOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS JOB CAN'T CLEAR .5 SECONDS FASTER THAN OTHERS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>somehow this got me excited to see what happens in 7.5they injected me with hopium without my consent
>>737593124So "evolved" is a separate game mode Or is it the only way to play in the next expansion? Because if the current rotation still exists then this really only seems like a tiny bandaid.
>>737595196not a separate modeyour jobs basically have 2 jobs now that you can switch between for all content
>>737595196It's basically a different combat styleReborn is closer to what's currently in gameEvolved is the new, more streamlined, style of combat
>>737592468*ahem*Reiterating hereRemember lads, tempered hearts and realistic expectationsDon't get too excited before you know everything
>>737592468>give us exactly what we've been asking forSo anyone complaining about the jobs/combat now is actually just a retard that doesn't play the game, right? Or some retarded gaslighter that complained about wanting something different, without actually wanting something different
>>737595284AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Was Dawntrail really THAT bad where they have to make all these drastic changes in 8.0? Like did the player base die off THAT much that they're going this hard to save the game?
>>737592709>more unique in their fantasy and mechanicsWe don't know that until we see more than one of each role, they can still be homogenous reskins.
>>737594710>Yeah, and now they can't.Again, where does the presentation show that this is the case? >That's because of tank healing abilities, and tanks are being changed too. Sure, I'll just have to see it in action then cause I don't trust that when they keep reminding the viewer about how much easier the class is to play.>Lilies are GCD healsWasn't the entire point of Lilies to fix the exact same problem that Sanctity is trying to solve now?
>>737595350>did the player base die off THAT muchYes it did, some datacenters are ghost towns
>>737595284I hate to agree with the lalafag, but he is right. What we have seen is good, but always remember the "Scion civil war" line of Yoshida.
>mfw this fanfest
>>737595072PVP is the best mode. Jobs have actual identity there and feel different.
>>737595350yes unironicallyeven second life modders started dying out, that's like the biggest metric to shit going south
>>737595350Anon, if Evercold doesn't actually manage to turn the game around either from the bad sting of DT or a lack of interest, 14 is dead-dead, because DT hit that bad. People haven't resubbed since launch, at least a third to half the playerbase simply fucked off easy.
>>737595350literally only one person out of 10+ that I know have been playing from shadowbringers stayed subbed throughout DT, it was a fucking disaster
>>737595284People just want something different.Even if this is a total miss we can go back to reborn modeEventually (like 9.0 or later) they might kill reborn mode and are just trying to ease players into evolved gradually. But there is literally nothing bad about this right now
>all this scion cosplay>especially Y'shtolaYou faggots always tell me no one likes the Scions and cat mom is a non character.
>>737595430I didn't think it was possible, but my hope is legit restored.
>>737595526you got bamboozled by a trollanything y'shtola is highly valued
>>737595510The only thing -and I have to reach here- that I don't like about Evolved is that there will be hellish queues for duties. It is very obvious that tanks and healer won't change much while the DPS seem to get some very fluffy, very cool new skills and gameplay styles.
>>737595526the scions and yshtola are popular wha
>have to wait nine months for Evercold
>>737595526Being waifu-vindicated is a good feeling.
>>737595350Hiroi or whatever the fuck that stupid chinks name was isn't even mentioned today and Kate is nowhere in sight despite being the "person Koji passed the torch too". Keep in mind YoshiP was stepping back from FFXIV and Koji was taking a back seat with translation. Now he is at the helm again and so is YoshiP again. The game is in such a poor state they absolutely needed these 2 to give it 100% again. With Square Enix's president announcing it is top priority to fund this game and patch more often it is very obvious Dawntrail performing poorly lit a fire under a lot of people at the company.
>>737595526she literally hasn't done anything since shadowbringers Estinien is a better character at this point
>freestyle mode>mobile tier gameplayhopecucks lose again
>>737595710Estinien was always a better character.
>>737595735REBORTIONS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>737595735The only shitty thing they have shown today is the battle pass. That could genuinely be rancid dog shit.
>>737595768he hasn't been a character since heavensward
Whats the story going to be? I have not played since launch of last expac, DT looked like ass so it was my first expansion I didn't actually get. I also got bit by fomo bullshit, some sort of.. pvp reward that went away? Did they ever make a way to get old pvp rewards? Last question was did something I read about no more armor appearance restrictions actually happen? I could wear plate looking on gun shooty or a caster?
>>737595735I don't get how people can watch the presentation literally just say>it is way easier now20 times in a row and somehow think that will fix the game, as if that is the real reason why people dislike the gameplay direction post heavensward.
>>737595350yes it really was THAT bad
>>737595694>Hiroi or whatever the fuck that stupid chinks name was isn't even mentioned today and Kate is nowhere in sight despite being the "person Koji passed the torch too". I just hope that it's not just for the US fanfest and that it continues. No mention one way or the other still leaves me worried.
>>737592576this type of sellout shit is the worst.hate cross over slop.
>>737595912the good news is those 2 have dedicated hate followers who will track their movements so I won't be surprised if it gets confirmed sooner than later
>>737595864From how everything sounds, we've got an interdimensional key that can let us shard hop more "freely" once we figure out how, and the villains initially wanted it for their ambitions that let them suck other worlds dry for energy. Now there's another fringe group of Ascians trying to keep things from imploding with drastic measures, and we're heading to save another shard because the Ascians iced it in their Rejoining plans, but odds are high that they're assholes about it too.
>>737592468>>737592606I just woke up, link to live thread reaction please?
>>737595854Sure, but what he did in that game was far more than Y'shtola ever got.
>>737595527Your hope would be restored even if they've showed Yoshida taking a shit, you fanboys just want to perpetually play your MMO like the fucking cattle you're.
>>737595526>especially Y'shtolaThe easiest to cosplay is yshtola, her outfit is basic
>>737595971>the greatest anime of all time>sell out
>>737596072No Lanselot, I was genuinely in full doomer mode for months but I've got hope again. Go be a schizo somewhere else.
>>737595971You are (Not) an XIV player
>>737595971fuck off
>>737595971jealous much?
>>737596138Vinland Saga is 1000x better and honestly would have been more relevant to the theme of Evercold
>>737596138>>737596164>>737596193>>737596197shiteaters
>>737596228>no rebuttal
>>737596209>Let's have a 24 man series of raids be against normal sized people
What does any of this mean for someone who intends to play this game for the first time ever on his PS5 using the DualSense?
More like devolved mode, mode for fucking literal monkeys
>>737596209alliance raids are meme content they don't need to be relevant to themesthey need to be fun, that's all
>>737596228
>>737595971You don't even play the game.
>>737592574>2m meta removed>Evolved combat changes look amazing >contextual skills (PLD as an example does shield bash when close, but shield lob at a distance, same with their ranged magic spell swapping to a heal when targeting a player)>PLD looks better and has literal parry like mechs>BRD looks better>Healing looks fun again>DRG has a move they can use to hard mit attacks with good timing
I liked playing PLD as OT... ah well, I'm going on 30h awake and really gotta catch up on sleep now, just give me the Evolved QRD.Though I assume the 2 minute stuff isn't exclusive to that? Will all DPS aside from ranged (or perhaps even ranged?) become ego DPS now?That aside what's with the dynamic stuff? How are they reviving job fantasies with it?Thanks and good night, anons.
>>737596209>>737596260>Vinland Saga raidkino
>>737596209i want a hellsing raid for the glam, but EVA will always be relevant
thats nice im sure its still a completely archaic game with no add-ons and a nightmare to play
>memed before/just after DT release about yoshida trying to turn FF14 into action rpg stuff and people were horrified about the concept after FF16>one league autist does it on his own to a starting degree and people fucking love it so farMaybe we really are just hoping for anything good.
>>737596335>ranged magic spell swapping to a heal when targeting a playerwonder if this is gonna work with mouseover macro
Fullmetal Alchemist raid next
>>737596209Vinland Saga will never have a legacy
>>737596382>I liked playing PLD as OTyou can still play reborn jobs in 8.x. i expect it will be the weaning period before they get rid of them for good in 9.x
>>737594973no it looks exactly like current wol
>Button bloatDo controller faggots reallyHis fucking bars are empty
>Expansion announcement so good, fucking /v/ is hopepostingHOLY KINO, I'M RESUBBING
>>737596382MT/OT has literally not mattered since SB.
>>737596209cringe
>>737596454Yeah I'm loving booting up FFXIV and it's just bootleg wow instead of FFXIV
>>737596580I don't know what you are vagueposting about, but the he didn't even have his cross hotbars full on stream, and no I don't play on controller
>>737596579but he's the wanderer
>>737596382pvp combos as standardall buttons on one hotbarcontextual actions (pld clemency when targeting friend, holy spirit when targeting foe)different cast times, potencies and even some effects or unique actions separate from default/rebornpld can turn mits into a parry action with counterattack, even a timed parrydrg can do sky high jumps to mitigate damage, boosted positionals with more of them addedwhm gains meter from gcd heals that can be spent for high damage, no cast timers on ogcd attacks so they're now more mobilebrd loses damage from utility buffs though i wasn't paying attention to all the details, gets special dodges when using wanderer's volley for quick emergency movementprobably more i wasn't noticing
>>737596030well, sounds better than what I skimmed of how this one was just us being an engine for luk basically. To say nothing of the eng VA debacle (I swapped to JP VA in ARR and have never gone back). How is WAR and MCH looking in this new combat stuff, or not shown yet? I also have done BLM, RDM and SMN but mostly due to simply wanting to be ranged and not cucked by cast bars and how movement heavy every expansion continued to go. But I'm also a giant fag that hates positionals so I don't touch non tank melee.
>>737596526Vinland Saga is already a top tier anime with a massive following. Probably one of the biggest successes in the entire industry. You can hate the idea of FFXIV x Vinland Saga but to make such a stupid comment about it not having a legacy is just laughable.
>>737595350YES. Do you not know how telling it is that Yoshida forced the SE president to give him more money AND SAY HE WANTS TO RETURN TO PRE-EW PATCH SPEED when all of SHB and EW he said he wanted to slow down and ease off XIV? He hasn't acted like that since ARR.DT was 1.0-tier for Yoshida to pull a 180 like this. It was BAD bad.
>>737596654i mean i wish they at least made him look different if that is the case, but its just us in zero's costume
I'm most curious about what all will be there at launch for these character creation changes. Might actually use a fanta if there are good new options for eyes and such.Give me new lala beards please.>>737596454I'm just happy the 2m meta is gone and that these changes are leaning into more of an identity for the jobs.Bard feels like a bard more now and not just a poisoner archer with some background tunes
>>737596209>>737596734>Vinland SagaSubversive slopGo bend over for Muhammad next time you see him
>The dumbed down mode is the strongestTHEY ACTUALLY BELIEVED YOSHI LIES, THEY BELIEVED IT WOULD BE HW AGAINHAHAHHAA
>>737592468i dont understand how ffxiv troons have the same problem as blizzcucks>expansion releases>dogshit>game dies>next expac is announced>people get hyped>expac comes out>its shit>game dies
>>737596616Xiv always was bootleg WoW. That's how ARR saved the game.
>evolved mode has a fuckton of extra potency to make up for no ogcds>ends up being optimal to raid as evolvedI don't wanna play easy mode
>>737596802its not a game problem, its a genre problem
>>737596827It's not easy mode, it's fun mode. It's sovl mode.
>excited for Evercold>never finished 7.0 DawntrailShit, will this be the first time ever I get a story skip?
So are the gatherers and crafters gonna be EVOLVED as well?
Honestly what jobs you want to see EVOLVED, anons?MCH and RPR here, I want to see how they unfuck the former, and the latter always felt awful in the 2m meta and worse then DRG because of half of the burst window being outside buffs
>Anime crossover alliance raid>Buggy voicing KefkaMarineford raid when?
>>737596798>>737596827>Dumbed down>Easy mode>It's actually more skill intensive due to more positionals, timed blocks, directionally evasive skills, etcLol
>>737596827>I don't wanna play easy mode>has plogons up the wazoo bc "quality of life," "i dont want to rely on other people," "the devs dont know what their doing"
>>737596827You're gonna have to wait a week for the delirious trannys to settle down losing their minds about this bullshit before we can actually talk about it.>OMG LEGAME IS SAVED DOOM SISSIES FOREVER LE BTFO X OMG IM POGGING RESUBBING RIGHT LE NOW
>>737596580Cross hotbars can have forty eight actions you dipshit, but no one wants to play around forty eight fucking actions because it's retarded.
Combat Devolved
>>737596667Thanks. I just went and read and supposedly we're going back to "3" month patches, is that what Kiryu coming out to say XIV will totally be getting a bigger budget was about?
I wasn't fully paying attention when they showed off bard but do the songs do ANYTHING for the party at all or are they just there to access dots, aoe, big single target?
>>737596827Did you see what they did to positionals to make them harder? DRG now has a right and a left attack, in addition to retaining its back attack.
How butthurt is the Balancefags and parsetrannies going to be from the Evolved system?
>>737596580I play keyboard but pld has too many buttons
>>737593325>Mr.Prime
>>737597014for now its CEO speak, i'll believe it when i see it
>>737596138Gundam mogs it in every way you entryfag tourist.
Good>obliterating 2 minute meta>putting job flavor back into the jobs>animation glams>datacenter DF and PFMid>MSQ looks like a retrace of ShBBad>Seasonal BattlepassPlease nail the MSQ
>>737596886Just know that if you get a story skip, you won't be leveled up. You will still need to unlock additional raids and dungeons, and level up on your own. Do not buy the level skip.
>NGE AR ends with your WOL getting FANTA'DWho do you see?>a dozen Venats
>>737597015Yeah they're mits, speed, and I forgot the third one
>Wind-up Asuka in first tier>Wind-up Rei in second tierYou will show your allegiance to best girl with the proper pet, right /v/?
>>737596753arbert was just us as well, just with a different hairstyle, and the wanderer is covering most of his hairwe clearly are El Wolo in this teaser, also the sideburns are somewhat different and the wanderer doesn't have our short mulletI'm aware that the SB trailer is a thing, but who knows...
>>737592606>to yoshi p, the cause of, and solution to, all life's problemsI'm happy to come back but this is just like hilarious levels of irony.
>>737597024It's not even hard, you just true north or hit it before the snapshot like you always do if you can't hit a positional
>>737596580Controllers had no issues with buttons.Most jobs were fully covered with the crossbar and the extra hotbar.Add in being able to R2->L2 and L2->R2 for up to 16 more slots and anyone complaining about buttons on controller being the issue is an actual retard.This debloat is NEEDED, especially on fucking healers.
>>737597015>Movementspeed up>damage up>defence upI think those were the effects they mentioned
>>737597085Gundam is overrated and only good for it's model kits.
>>737597110Why yes I will be using the wind up pen pen
>>737597025you can see them malding in this very thread, anon-kun
>Where did they get the idea that having fewer buttons can still be fun?tell the gooks "thank you"
Another expansion catering to retarded shitters that can't press buttonsSkip
>>737597094Spot-on my exact feelings, but I can forgive SHB2 and gacha progress if the rest of evolved are good. My only concern with it is how power-crept will old content be on Evolved, because it's already very bad now.
>>737597025WHM is shitting and pissing because muh forced to healDRG seems happy for the most partBRD seems ambivalentPLD says wait and see, not enough info yet.
>>737597094>Please nail the MSQI hope they go full edgekino as an over-correction from Dawntrial.
>Icebringers>achuallly Rejoining is good and we are going to wank off Ancients/Emet even more>Evangelion collab
>>737597024what how the fuck is that going to work with enemies with giant ass hitboxes that arent a closed circle
>>737597110Yes, I'll still be using Wind-up Nanamo like always.
>>737597148>Gundam is overratedAs opposed to people who call Evangelion the greatest anime/mecha anime of all time? And yes the model kits are great. Fuck snapshitters though, you either paint or you stay the fuck out of the hobby.
>>737597120well i think the "transition" from ardbert to current wol was in stomblood trailer right? at the start we see "ardbert" then at the end we see current wol. very distinct differences imo. I think they're just showcasing the "job" for the expac
>>737597098Wow that's fucking stupid. Guess I'll swallow my pain and talk to Wuk Lamat.
>>737597085there's like 40 gundam series and only 5 of them are good there's only 1 bad eva movie.
Apologize to Wuk Lamat. They killed the game so it could be reborn. Xhe was the meteor all along.
>>737597230unless the enemy hitbox is a kill/DoT zone, i imagine just sit inside the hitbox and move as needed
>>737597161Honestly anyone that treats button bloat like some sort of skill expression has their head up their ass
>>737597191No, then you'll have another SB which didn't go over well. Both ShB and EW were "Hope in the face of overwhelming opposition" kino, and I hope we can return to that.
>>737597230The same way it already works, positionals always trigger no matter your position with those.
>>737597230or raid bosses that require you to have strict positioning for mechanics
>>737597253no, i meant stormblood where mnk and sam wol had different hairstyles despite both being us
Final trailer will have Ryne, Zero and GaiaI believe
>>737597085the problem with gundam is it has a lot of "branches" its kinda hard to do a full on collab with it i think. the only thing that *kinda* makes sense is the new Gquuuux cause it has dimension travel bullshittery and thats too new
>>737596332not anymore yeah.
APOLOGIZE. KNEEL. SAY THANK YOU TO MR PRIME
>>737597306I've been using true north for nothing this entire time?
I’m going to play this tomorrow morning okay guys I’m new
>>737597346Probably?
>>737597314True North exists you mongoloid
>>737597127True north is gone, dumb dumb.
>>737597094It wasn't a battlepass, it just sort of looked like one so everyone got confused. They just changed the current daily-oriented grind system to a weekly-oriented one so weekend warriors don't fall behind. Plus added some extra shit like orchestrion rolls to it.
>>737597218>Evangelion collabXIV raids were best when they were ankered in XIV lore and not side shit. Crystal tower was great, Void Arc was great, XII was borderline but somehow Dalmasca works kinda in the XIV universe. Nier was trash and XI is literally just sightseeing. Even the EW, for as shit as the ending was, had us actually meet and learn about the twelve.
>tfw the ascians can easily be defeated by introducing eva to them>they will become rei or asuka fans and kill each other
>>737597306>that arent closed circlesplease read>>737597292that doesnt close the gap for really large enemies by much
>>737597342>Astro 3.0I'M KNEELING
its coming home...i can feel it...
No more daily roulettes is going to literally kill this game. Daily roulettes is literally all there is to do in this game. It is literally the main content of the game, the only reason to log in. What the fuck will there be left to do?
>>737597392no it got put into that jump with 3 charges
>>737597342>All dogshit changes for retard
I'm going to need a dedicated 'get in the robot shinji' button for the alliance raid
>>737597409>ankered
i just want a good reason to grind pvp series that isn't modern slop glam
>>737597390true north appears to have been removed based on this image>>737597012
>>737597127True North doesn't exist in Evolved mode anymore anon keep up
>>737597353Bee Yourself
>>737597237Only one person said it and you're seething. There are dozens of great mecha animes, but the best and most consistent one is literally NGE. There's like 5 gazillion Gundams.
>>737597487it's tied to this now, they even talked about it during the stream
>>737595350>take 3 weeks to force myself through 7.0 story>do the 1st raid tier which was actually good fun>unsubHaven't touched the game since. I didn't want the fanfest/LL, but the Evercold trailer isn't bringing me back. It was boring
>>737597549based
I really don't like how they made pld and the new job mt and the rest as ot.
>>737597392>>737597502Alright, greed on the snapshot or lose like what 60 potency over a failed positional hit when the boss does the half room cleave
>>737597549honestly same
>>737597536>only one person said itNormies say that shit all the time. They say Evangelion, TTGL, Code Geass are the BEST mecha anime ever but would not watch any other mecha anime. Actual tourists.
>>737597487it seems melee classes now have a "unique" true north
>WHM mains pissing and crying they have to actually healIt's so fucking glorious.
>>737597582Just do your new super 90% damage reduction jump.
>>737596260Sounds better than stabbing the toe of an Evangelion
>>737597597Which gundam series do you think is better.
>>737597541clip or it didnt happen
>>737597257>Guess I'll swallow my pain and talk to Wuk Lamat.You still get the bonuses for first dungeon/raid completion, which you'll have a shit ton to do since it includes all the alliance and normal raids. It takes longer to do the story because you'll be unable to skip most of the cutscenes.
>>737597342>Talked about i wished the pvp team would get to do pve job balancing>it actually fucking happens>it's actually looking goodEveryone who got mad at me for wanting it can officially suck my dick.>>737597582No anon, you flat don't get the proc if you fail the positional.
>>737597434Oh god, please bring back the days of DRK having to actually manage MP somehow. HW/SB DRK was the most fun I've ever had with this stupid fucking game.
>>737597607what did they do?
>>737597094>Bad>>Seasonal BattlepassHear me out. Everything else was so outrageously good that maybe the battlepass is actually good. And plus, the battlepass is really just like a permanent mogpendium or a remaster or Khloe's books and/or Challenge log. Everything else was SO FUCKING GOOD that I'm willing to entertain that the battlepass might also be good.
>>737596909I want DRK with self-harm abilities
>>737597597Okay and? What does this have to do with me? Also Xam'd Lost Memories, Macross Frontier, and Eureka 7.
>>737597629OG def, Zeta, X, G, 08th Ms team, 0083, thunderbolt, and actually unicorn + its manga... Gquuuuux was shaping to be interesting but they rushed it.
>>737597606vid or didnt happen
>>737597549Now that I'm I may as well ask. What happened with this sexy bitch? The only good thing in 7.0
>Decisive Battle orchestrion roll>Komm Susser Tod orchestrion roll>Fly Me to the Moon orchestrion roll
>>737597696honestly it's not even /really/ a batlepass, it's more a replacement for tomes
>>737597629NTA but Zeta and G. If someone says 8th MS team you can safely throw their opinion in the trash. Its the ultimate tourist trap.
One thing I hope, it's weeklies aren't like in PSO2 new genesis, like a weekly there it's literally do the same Trial 20 times.
>>737597761she pounced my dick and now lives at my house in the lavender beds
>>737597691You WILL heal on healerYou will NOT only oGCD heal
>Be so aggressively mediocre you cause players to leave>Even the most diehard defenders fell silent>Completely Expose all of the growing issues the game has been sweeping under the rug for years>Company is forced to listen to feedback for the first time as a result>Deliver the first good NA Fanfest in the game's history>Save the gameRemember to thank your Lamaty'i
>>737594873Bro WoW had that shit ever since it released. Many classes had several minute long cooldowns on top of trinkets. Arcane Mage was so fucking stupid in vanilla that they altered the way spell power trinkets worked by forcing both to go on cooldown as soon as you used one.
>>737597696God I hope Nanachi dies
>>737597342>eden shiva (concept)
Until they get rid of the monthly sub fee I do not care.
>>737597785>08th MS Team>badHoly filtered and reddit taste confirmed
>>737597761dying but not dead yet, probably will be saved somehow
Was it it me or did the video showcase they had for Evolved had no aoe weaponskills or spells?
>they actually brought out the squeenix president to bow down to the playerbase and assure them they'll give ff14 as much money as they wanthow powerful is Yoshi-P?
>>737597813ok but WHAT did they do?
>>737597646https://youtu.be/_aCGzxWczCMsince it's still live for some reason the timestamp is kinda weird but go to like -2:41:15
>Evolved SAM gets Zantetsuken>It deals significantly more damage if the enemy is under 10% healthBased or cringe?
>>737597838>I assure you the heart over the 16 year old's womb is vital to the encounter
I loved Dawntrail but it looks like this is even better. Could be another 10/10 instead of “just” a 9/10
"raid buffs" are like HRT to these bum ass freaks. You've strangled the games fight design for like 6 years, lets try something new
>>737597821>he doesn't know
>>737597861>how powerful is Yoshi-P?You have this backwards, Yoshi-P fucked up. The president had to come out to take care of his mistakes.
>>737597864gcd heals give you a resource for damage
>>737597864You're forced to GCD heal for big damage.
>>737597629Zeta
>>737592659what a charming young lady
>>737597916FAT FACED FUCK
>>737597906>decision makingMotherfucker there is no decision, you optimized decisions out of the equation to play DDR.
>>737597906I just hope Dancer still has them.
>>737597762>Rei chiquitita housing doll>Rei clone merchant permit>Rei full wall portrait
>>737597906>team based>dealing with toxic parser tranny statics and dogshit pugsI don't pay my sub to play with you. You don't pay my sub.
>>737597861>how powerful is Yoshi-P?I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that if Yoshida had not salvaged XIV, they probably would have had to sell themselves.
>>737597906>team based >push 2 minute cooldown every 2 minutesAmazing teamwork, truly one of a kind
>>737597919They fell for the 'western consultants' psyop as many japanese devs have in the past.I hope they've learned to be more on the guard in th efuture.
>>737596827>no ogcdsBut that's wrong you fucking retard.
>>737597906Funny how they all try to play the social team card instead of facing the main issue that every fucking fight has to be designed around them.
over status?
what will BLM be like
>>737597906>wah wahh>our buffs don't align unless we have a specific comp please fix it!!!>wah wahh>2 minute meta is boring now everything aligns please fix it!!>wah wahh>now no one has any buffs so there is nothing to align please fix it!!Kill all raid trannies, holy fuck what is wrong with them
>>737598030we're so back.
>>737598030about this over
>>737597342>e8sWell, it's my favorite savage fight. I'll keep my hopes up
>>737598030wowbucks are over
>>737597906why are these retards complaining about this as if a completely selfish comp isnt viable currently?
>>737597762>>Komm Susser Tod orchestrion rollmakes me sad I unsubbed and lost my house
>XIVcombo modeTHANKS SHITTERS YOU RUINED THE GAME
Just got back home. Could a kind anon link me the thread(s) where they showcased the evolved mode?
>>737597696I really liked what I saw, but that doesn't mean I'll give in to mindless adjurations. The looked and sounded like some gacha shit and that makes me suspicious.
>>737597957I don't. I hope DNC plays the same as XI DNC plays. XIV DNC is so fucking lame in comparison.
Switch 2 release means other MMOs should start taking Nintendo more seriously.
>>737598107Whats it do? I've never played XI
>>737597761Her and WoL got into some personal training after the Arcadion story concluded.
>>737597342>literally played nothing but PvP for years after DT's shitshow >genuinely the only thing I ever had any real fun with for all of DT>mfw this was the exact announcement I wanted to see >the only hope I had that has a chance of fixing PvE
Are dungeons still 3 packs a boss 3 packs a boss 3 packs a boss in a big hallway?Are DPS jobs still 123 123 123 456 123 123 123 456?Are raids still stack scatter stack scatter tower?Are the story quests still talk to x go to y inspect z?Then i think the game is still shit, unfortunately
is it worth coming back to FFXIV if I stopped at the end of endwalkers story and didn't do the post endwalker story stuff? what happened since then?
>>737598030We are back to the future so hard that WoWtrannies are still melting in our threads
>>737597906Suffer parse troon
>>737598160At this point just wait for Everfrost.
>>737598160>>737598157>all these secondariesLOL fuck off
>>737598136To simplify: You have like 3 different debuffs you can apply and each one basically gives combo points and you can use your combo points to do lots of different stuff like give yourself more TP or heal people or do a big damage attack. It's basically like a combination between a WoW rogue and a RDM but it doesn't use mana it uses TP
>>737598085Still had it open, here you go. >>737579585
>>737598041Spend 3 Polyglots to unleash ultima.
>>737598096they went out of their way to say it wasn't a battlepass in that sense and that the graphic wasn't anything more than a stand-in
>>737598157>Are dungeons still 3 packs a boss 3 packs a boss 3 packs a boss in a big hallway?Yes.>Are DPS jobs still 123 123 123 456 123 123 123 456?They're 11111111111 23 11111111 23 now.>Are raids still stack scatter stack scatter tower?Yes.>Are the story quests still talk to x go to y inspect z?Yes.
>>737598030https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptGlHl3BJYU
what's the current lvl 25 pvp series reward?
I watched the trailer and… yeah, kinda meh. But like, what is it even based on? Woketrail was clearly FFIX/X/XI inspired, but this one feels off. I don’t even recognize the enemies. Is it meant to be FFXVI or something?
>>737598156>only logged in to frontlines and CCPVPCHADS WW@
>>737592659Holy cute!
>>737598079nta but that doesn't happen in WoW's latest expansion, Midnight.
>>737598263Thanks a lot anon
>>737593070I appreciate this but I won't lie, it's not going to go as far as I've now become accustomed to and I'm still going to use sloth/wrath.
>>737598306The secret end game city is midgar.
>>737598306It's based on FFXIVYou're welcome.
>>737598002Yeah, you're telling me evolved DRG has the oGCD vomit that I love
>>737598156>>737598314You must've been hot dogshit at PvP if you think this anything similar.
>>737598160no. nothing good happened, everything after endwalker was ass. badly done "tribute" to FFIV with a nothing MC, then dawntranny.
>>737598305A date with one of the 3 catgirl sisters.Your choice of which.
>>737598160Here is how you can enjoy the MSQ when you quit right after EW:>play 6.1>skip everything after that and 7.5You will have missed nothing other than there now is a woman named Zero in the Void who is our ally and she is buddies with Golbeze from FFIV. If you want to know about those two, play all of 6.x. The entirety of 7.x can be skipped. Genuinely. Even if you don't know who the chipmunk is, you won't miss anything. Yes, a Lalafell in a squirrel costume is the entire legacy of 7.0-7.4.
>>737598306FFVII, they mentioned the Promised Land.
>>737598375resubbing
>>737598157No. DPS are 1-1-1-1 now with a single 10 second cd and 1 utility skill now. Imagine being a level 15 DRG with 1 second GCD and MCH hypercharge heatblast without gauss, that's pretty much it
qrd on the redhead glasses au'ra? what's her master plan?
>>737598305a mount that's one of those japanese demon wheels
>>737598328Starts about a quarter into it. You see the initial melty reactions when the dev reveals that he's a league player
>>737598365UH OH MELTY
>>737598410>be vague til 7.55>get rewritten retcon til the last few weeks before 8.0every single time. Also shes just the plant professor buttmad her garden is frozen. thats really all it is.
>>737598410preserve the source and that's it, everyone else is on their own
>>737596004When Ishikawa was presented she was given a standing ovation no different than the one Mr. Prime just received.If they present Hiroi in a Fanfest he is getting fucking lynched.
>>737598417and I have till the 28th?
QUICKWhat happened from 7.1 -> wherever we are now?I skipped it all
Dawntrail was South America tourism kino and no one can convince me otherwise. They made desert zones colorful and interesting for once and we got Solution Nine on top of that
>>737598491just replay it using the inn roomwhile dawntrail is pretty skippable i think you do need the context of 7.x for next expac
>>737597906>BRD is stacked with multiple party benefiting abilities>that will be its thing, if you love being the party butt-slut that ups everyone else, then play the new BRD>"BUH I CAN'T CLICK TO BUFF A 3% DAMAGE INCREASE WITH SMN ANY MORE!"This is going to expose all the real faggots who have been strangling the job/combat design for years, and I'm loving it
>>737598484yeah but there's gonna be maintenance on the 27th
>>737598491We met an evil super genius twink who hated the concept of dying then beat him up.He then became a squirrel and is now the pet of a hot Au Ra ascian.
>>737597906>team-based activity>"let's hold our 2-minute here">"o7"
>>737598452>no argument>starts doing his weird ageplay rpBack to /vg/ tranny.
>>737598491>Real Sphene appeared>A guy called Calyx appeared, wanting to kill everyone to give them immortality>we beat Calyx with Sphene's help>Calyx barely survived has WoL PTSD and teams up with an Ascian who has taken the shape of an Aura woman with red hair and green hornsThat is legit all. The patch MSQ meandered around so fucking much it isn't even funny.
>>737598491a shitter wanted to make alexandrians immortal by absorbing them all into new endless, and take the key from uswe kicked his stuff's dick in, rescued the real sphene who was actually comatose and stuck in a tube this entire time, and alexandria reallyactuallyproperly can think for their own restoration efforts properan ascian came in and was supporting the douchenozzle but seemingly wants to save the fourth from its rejoining-gone-wrong ice nightmare land and has seemingly moved to bait us into dealing with it
>>737597906I'd prefer if the average DD is a bit selfish in their buffs like Samurai, only buffing themselves. Maybe some of them will have orthogonal debuffs like slashing down or something but in exchange there should be some obvious buff focused classes. Bard certainly fills this niche, if they're keeping Dancer's partner mechanic that's another obvious choice. Off tanks should handle most debuffs I feel like, would give them another thing to manage. If we're going into a meta that is more free form in how the fights develop there's a lot more ways to tweak things than now.
>>737597856Anon, 08th MS Team IS Reddit. Its the Gundam for retards who think that Gundams wading through 10 meter tall mud pits is "realistic" and that the newtype magic essential to the show's themes of evolution and connectivity are too fantastical. Reddit fucking loves 8th MS Team because its made for normies who just want a typical war drama but with mechs.
does evolved mode no longer have auto-attacks? I didn't see any during the demonstration
>>737598535still, don't feel like frying myself in pvp for a mount i'll never usenext reward better be worth ti
>>737598491>7.2: Real SPEEEEEEN was trapped in a time chamber. Not much happens besides you kill a robo version of Beatrice>7.3: Calyx tries to kill you using a primal Necron. You kill it and force him to fuck off>7.4: You descend below LM and find that there are actually still people on the 9th, plus some of Krile's distant family. In the background Calyx (forma le Buccee's) and the plant Ascian vaguepost at each other.
>>737598306Real answer? It’s not based on anything. It’s actually original for once. No more copy/paste shit.
>>737598615Seems like it, yeah.
the game is being split into two modes?
>>737598491Yandere Sphene became the best character in the game but was sadly only used for a single patch.
So unless PLD's damage is gutted is it safe to say that, 8.0 tank aside, all of the other tanks are gonna be found dead in a ditch? Not like that changes anything for DRK mains.
>Hiroi is a dbz shonenfag>Everyone hates him>Ishikawa is a fujoyume who ships graha with meteor and herself>Everyone loves herWhy?
>>737598491>speen (human) was alive>some idiot thinks he's hot shit and tries to take the mcguffin>btfo'd multiple times>remaining asciants trying somethingThat's pretty much all, nothing really and everything that happens in DT feels pointless
>>737597025as a WHM mage I'm tempering my expectations. Reminds me of stormblood for some reason, which was awful for WHM. But we'll see
>>737597864Near every ogcd heal goneRaw heals give a bonus to the next damage spell cast, uo to 3 timesAs a bonus, the damage spell is a mini combo too, to be less visually boring.
>>737598651One brings Reborn one brings Evolved...
*hits pipe*Yeah. After the job panel, I'm on board.
>>737598651you can swap between normal "reborn" controls and mechanics, and "evolved" new stuff whenever outside of battle. all future jobs are designed for evolved, so reborn is really just a legacy system fallback if evolved doesn't work out.
It also seems like a good chunk, though not all, of the gauges in Evolved mode are on a timer/raise automatically in battle rather than being upped by attacks. Examples being the bard song gauge.I assume this was a way to kind of sidestep the issues that come with giving skills long recast timers.
so are we ever getting those old FEAST rewards or what
>>737598631it's this
>>737596796Vinland Saga is fantastic though. I don't have to agree with the "pacifism is everything" messaging to still enjoy a fantastic story, anon.Also even on its own season was / the prologue is an amazing stand alone story.Besides many Japanese lefties are enjoyable people with hope in their hearts. Not cynicism.
I hope NIN and DNC get to keep their ninjutsu/step mechanics
>>737598687Some fujos are based, like Megumi Ishitani or Ryoko Kui.
>>737592468Any good news for SAM? is kaiten back?
>>737598687One's a hackfraud and the other is a good writer, it's shrimple.
>>737598696"Mini combo" it does the exact same thing. It's just 1-1-1-1
>>737595254>>737595263Alright that sounds neat.
Can I pay to skip DT?
>>737598674you still need an ot
>>737598739god we can't leave this retarded patch series fast enough.
>>737598687Because Ishikawa is a onehit wonder, which is % more hits than Hiroi has ever written.
>>737598801Once EC drops, probably
>>737598774they are holding back a lot of specifics for EU and JP fanfest.
>>737598774No info on SAM yet, but given that the guy who originally made Samurai also did the job reworks, you can have hope in your heart. They did get confirmed to have a fantastic looking new armor set though.
>>737598774
>>737598696Very curious what will happen to Sage since it's the OGCD healer.
>>737598774Npotentially
>>737598720Birb is gonna show up in 7.5 part 2 just to slam dunk player goodwill. I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow get Meteion and Ryne on screen at the same time just to hebemax.
>>737597957I don't. I hope dance partner just affects what some moves do.>>737598794The point is that it's two different animations so it's less mindnumbing to spam.
>>737598801just bot it for free
>>737598550>>737598578>>737598585>fake sphene>then suddenly, real sphene>twink who doesn't want to die>we beat him up (real sphene helped)>twink lived, suddenly red haired femra>twink and femra team up>maybe femra has ulterior motives and is trying to use us to fix evercold>also cum chaliceThanks bros, that was easy.
>>737598739Getting away from this aesthetic is good enough a reason to be excited for 8.0
>>737598841i dont play sam but this is unironically the cooled AF they've put out
>>737598739https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M_7V0E_4cI
>>737597507Thanks I’m excited but idk what race and class to play
predict the twist of evercold
All brakes are off, shoot the wildest mechanic/skill you think could reasonable be implemented on any job.
>>737595350I can not stress to you enough how wretched it was. This was a game that was slowly crumbling away mechanically, but it still had the framework of great music and an interesting story holding it up. DT lit fire to those two remaining pillars during a blood orgy. They have to 180, and then strap a fucking jet engine to the back of their Honda Civic with like a ram on the front to knock other cars off the road. Even with the good tidings today, there are a lot of people like me who still aren't going to touch it again until after 8.0 launches and the whole world proclaims everything is fixed, because of how badly we got burned by 7.0.
>>737593070Hard to say with how limited the showcase was, but adding more positionals including left-right specific ones in standard rotation is much more complex than current goon.
>>737598876I might wear it on my monk
>>737598881>pick roe>green skin>name it Wor Lo
>>737598876A lot of the SAM AFs have had fantastic concept art, but then the actual in game models are are complete ass due to lack of good cloth textures, physics, and lighting.
>>737598927i genuinely forgot we can do that now
>>737598674They are literally introducing a new tank that everyone will probably want to play unless they somehow mess it up completely and 8-man content will ideally want an MT and OT, DRK is just going to have competition for who can be the subbiest now
Will you get the Switch 2 version?
what are they gonna do the rampant cheating situation
>>737598881Job can be changed at any time and you can't pick like a good chunk of Jobs at character creation anyway.
>>737598912Won't actually be cold forever.
>>737598841its only gonna look good on midlander
>>737598687At the point of ShB she didn't have absolute control I think. It's telling that afterwards FFXIV gained a habit of quickly writing any conventionally attractive female character out of the story while shoving cat and bunny boys down our throats.
>>737598774>is kaiten back?DRG was so kino that I am 100% convinced that Mr. Prime himself wants Kaiten back, and so we will have it in some form or another. And we say PLD has counters, so I'm hoping we keep Third Eye and that maybe even successful Third Eye parries triggers a use of Kaiten. That would be sick.
>>737598912jschlatt ascian is back
>>737598913Esteem is a permanent familiar and if you cast TBN on a party member he casts one on you too
>>737592659
>>737599013jfc
>Evershit is just DT2>Everyone here is praising it for dumbing down the game even furtherI hope you continue to have fun with 2 friends you never do anything with I guess
>>737599013ZAMN
>>737598992If PLD has a counter mechanic, SAM can easily have a proper counter mechanic too
>>737598913Manaward is upgraded into a single attack immunity when cast in Leylines.I AIN'T MOVING.
>>737599030>>737596961
So Parries and Counters are Paladin's 'thing', what's going to be Warrior's 'thing'?
>>737599030>more buttons = more gooderGo try out a job like NIN or DRK in PvP for a couple rounds and see how well you do, since it'll be so much easier with fewer buttons, I'll wait.
>>737598956>MT is the chad who carries the fight>OTs are just there to fill a slot while contributing less than anyone elseSo same as DRK then. Nice way to get people to play the new job.
What job should I play through ShB now that it's f2p for the free 80 XP?
>>737599030Bwo, everything about EC so far looks like a, dare I say, return to form.
>>737598848I'm more curious about eukrasia. This is basically tailor made for that skill to affect a lot of moves now.
>>737599105Unga bunga.
>>737598913>AST gets it's HW card minigame back>effects are all out there, major DPS buffs>in turn it doesn't need to spam DPS skills, just weaves cards
>>737599105WAR will become a D2 barbarian who just shouts at the raid to do better.
>>737598841>Original SAM designerHoly shit, really? I hope we go back to the kino that was original SB SAMThat set looks rad, but I hope they'll let you disable the shoulder pad thing.
>>737598985Maybe, sometimes thats okay though.I play Miqo'te though and most things look good on them too.
>>737598598At least 08thms is better than Reddit from Mercury
>>737599013
>>737598136NTA but, it's kind of hard to compare, the games are so different. the only real similarity is being in the realm of "a DD that sacrifices doing the most damage, for utility". But the utility is way more pronounced because FFXI is much more of a broad toolkit game, than the hard trinity game of FF14.XI DNC is a dual wield dagger class that can effectively give the whole group ~25% attack / +15% crit by debuffing the enemy, gives Haste, can emergency heal and cleanse without using mana, has great OOC utility like sneak/invis and run speed, whilst doing decent weaponskill dagger DPS.
>>737597684I wish that DRK used their hp for attacking, it should be a maximum risk maximum reward tank, not a tank tank. Every auto attack and ability should cost a percent hp that can drain you below zero.
name a single thing EC isn't fixing
>>737599105A hybrid healer/tank who heals less than actual healers and no longer does any tanking.
>>737599205Ass slider.
>>737599034Should just slightly modify how Seigan works in FFXI. You have sort of stances between Hasso and Seigan, Hasso is your DD stand, Seigan allows your third eye to proc more than once and counter.
>>737599225Koji fought for us...
>>737599205My hairline.
>>737599205EC isn't fixing my ED or male pattern baldness.
>6 extremes on launchDo you think the new raid difficulty will launch with normal, savage or will they change it to a 3 week cadence to further pad out content?
>>737599034>If PLD has a counter mechanicit doesn't. getting a gcd from mitigating a hit with sheltron is literally the same shit as getting kenki from mitigating a hit with tengetsu
>>737599205housing
>>737599134Whichever one you want to play, retard.
>>737595840There's no battle passThey just chose a confusing term for a pair of patches, "season"They could have called it a chapter or an episode or something
>>737599196Flood of Shadow is an oGCD in PvP that consumes HP to use. It's very spammable and can clean up low health targets, but it means you're playing fast and loose with your own HP, which can be deleted very quickly or get you stunned and poked to death if you aren't paying attention.
>>737599110NIN in pvp was a lot more fun in SBI can't stand all the nerfs it received since then>Dude hide now last literally 2 seconds Fuck off
>>737599240He did say, not yet. but maybe that was just him fucking around.
>>737599225>Max out ass slider>Aggro range is slightly increased due to the constant clapping
>>737599205Healers
>>737598913literally just bring back AST's royal road and buff timer extension skills, put it on an "awkward" cooldown like 45 or some shit to prevent 2 minute tr00ning from returning
>>737596909WAR and MCH, the two I actually play.
>>737599194Didn’t DNC shoot up a bunch with Primes because they finally both a new WS that benefits from their strongest flourishes and a good source of PDL?
Yeah, I'm thinking we're so fucking back.
>>737599168His repertoire in picrel.He also did the entire PVP Action rework, which largely inspired the Evolved Jobs rework as well.I have faith in this guy.
I loved Bozja and Cosmic Exploration, but if they actually just make the new "exploration" zones the base public fields, they will have finally fixed the game being a fucking Instanced prison. Imagine seeing people do unique crafter fates and weather alerts at the same time that a critical engagement is going on, while leveling and doing MSQ.
>Add PvP Flood of Shadows into PvE Evolved DRK>Retards getting themselves gilled by AOEs because they sacrified 95% of their health in ten seconds.Sovl....
>>737594761Its fucking fun man. You jump on a group and turn into a tornado made of swords. Then you sacrifice hp to attack them, the lower your hp the higher your dmg. One cleave on a moderate cooldown heals you based on the amount of targets you hit while your ult makes you invulnerable and puts you to 1hp. Your jump resets if your target dies so you can keep going and going. High risk high reward.
>>737596909I enjoyed Summoner back in 2.0, I liked a DoT pet class. But look at how they massacred my boy, this class is unusable now. Anything is an improvement on what we have.
>>737599205no new faces for each racei want characters that look as good as speen
>>737599317See that sounds like DRK, and that is all I want. Instead of mitigation DRK should only have dps increases at the cost of defense. It should be a glass cannon tank, maximum full time upkeep of healing, if the healer isn't always healing the DRK it should be a wipe garuntee, but they should also do as much dps as the highest dps at any given time.
>>737599205Still wishing for an in-between for Normal and Savage. Whole rest of the game is designed around doing the content blind and then...fuck you invisible everything mechanics on brand new fights effectively lmao!
>>737599317Its Shadowbringer not Flood.
>>737599450Uh, Bro…?
>Nupvp jobs which are already simplified normal jobs
>>737599450bro........
>>737599450Anon...
>>737599412the whm will be spamming heals on you anyway to charge their sanctity meter
>>737599450sis...
>>737599450It was quite literally announced today bro
>>737593321
>>737598913BLM gets Osmose OGCD. targetting a party member
>>737599450
>>737599225They said they're aiming for it to release around 8.2.
>>737599380>BRB cat's on fire
>>737599520>>737599534Thank you for not being useless like the other retards, I've been busy doing shit today.
>>737599030>Guys I watched nothing about this game I don't even play, I'm just gonna say a bunch of shitOk
>>737599520>>737599450Difficulties are now >Normal>Berlin>Savage
Man imagine the shit they can do now that they're freem from this 120s fucking prison of content design.Imagine a raid boss whose mechanic is that it just deals aura damage to every single party member, like micro unavoidable AoEs every few seconds, and healers have to constantly up themselves or get fucked.
>>737599194>can emergency heal and cleanse without using manait's been hella long since i played but couldn't they basically main heal in leveling parties by giving everyone lifesteal?
>>737599410Getting a buff for watching someone win a Bozja duel was a really cool concept and I'd love to see it be carried forward into mmo zone design as a whole.
>>737599559>8.2flip it>2.8remove the ".">28An 8 looks like...>2B
>>737599196I just hope the reward is actually there.Dark Knight should lead in DPS if played well.
>>737599603>>Berlinkek
>>737599205It hasn't fixed my desire for my WoL to marry Nanamo.
>>737599616Drain Samba usually didn't drain enough for that to work unless everyone had shadows.
>>737595612I don't know, the parry + riposte bit of paladin that rewards you for timing is some kino sword n board fantasy.
>>737599616NTA, the life steal isn't good and you would rather be using haste. You can press an aoe or single target heal if you need to be doing that.
>>737599613haven't they done this multiple times already
>>737599549holy fuck lmao
>>737599613That was basically old school Ifrit EX from what I remember. Back then sear really fucked the party up as the fight went on.
>>737599165>new mechanic!>the angrier you are, the more effective your party mit and healing is
>>737599315there is, go back to the new character screen. At the bottom you can see a bar filled up with some rewards like mount whistles on it. It's very similar to the pvp series reward.
>>737596909Give me SMN.... Give me the other half of its fucking kit that has been missing for half a decade
>there will be F2P players that will never know what the "reborn" style is in the future>on top of the players who have no idea how the game worked prior to 5.0 (now)DOYOUFEELOLDYET?
>>737599750>progress bar means battle pass
>>737599765I'm a Shadowbringers oldhead so doesn't matter to me.
>>737599613Man, I still remember in Endwalker they gave every single healer a nice big oGCD heal that magically fixes instances of repeated incoming damage, and still somehow I died dozens of times to Barbariccia's ground pound because neither healer could find their fancy new oGCD which solves that mechanic, nor could either of them press even a single GCD aoe heal.
>>737599520I'd be happy if this was just an easier savage that lets me see the whole extended fight and extra ending shit, that I could expect to clear through duty finder.
>>737599765I’ll never stop missing 1.23b.I’ll never stop missing my “Enhances Regen” gloves…I’ll never stop missing my “Enhances %Ability%” gear in general…
>>737599613doesn't sound very interesting considering whm is now incentivized to spam healing anyway so there is nothing to optimize, this would have meant something in the old system where gcd healing costed you dps
Uh oh Google Dockey
Context: The dude is an animation modder.
>120 seconds meta is over the game is saved XD>Look inside>Viper/pvp combo for every job>No ocdsI already had time to take sips between combo, now I'll have time to walk the dog
>>737599789>ShB>Oldhead>mfw 3.0 oldhead
>>737599846>Shadow Skin>Power Slash>Deliriumthey're al coming home...
>>737599841
What are the chances of getting a gallery based glam system announced in the upcoming fanfests?
>>737599820On Sage I'm more scared of single hit stacks than multi hit because they overtuned Panhaima so much.
>>737597541Except that's per action, not for a set time.Also there are left and right positionals rather than simply flank rear.
>>7375999140%
>>737599765Things like this don't really make me feel old, because unless the new things are truly dog shit, I enjoy them just as much as the zoomers they are meant to cater to.
>>737599781>A progress bar, that when filled up doles out rewards>and is placed right next to the text that says the patch numberyeah, looks like a battle pass to me. just like how it is in pvp
>>737599853>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I NEED MY STATIC ROTATION TO BE ON 3 SEPARATE BUTTONSshut up nigger
>>737599765>people will never know the Praetorium bumrush
A battle passFor a subscription MMO
Bringing this back one final time:https://poal.me/hlu8jfhttps://poal.me/hlu8jfhttps://poal.me/hlu8jf
>>737599846just because there are official glams, doesn't mean the modded ones aren't popularif anything, this is a way to get your unofficial animation get added into the game
>>737599972viper is fun so yeahNu Bard is literally just EW summoner with a few changes but people haven't realized that yet.
>>737598096There was no mtx, deterministic loot, and no fomo.The only thing that looks like a battlepass is the gay little bar on the ui.
>mr prime is also responsible for the concept and implementation of portraits and adventurer platesii can't kneel any more than i already am
I'm surprised I haven't seen people talk about the complete erasure of Dawntrail stuff this yearI think they got the message, also>No Kate
>>737599853DRG was moved to a 2.20 gcd going by the job gauge they showed
>>737599959And he typed all of that between a single combo
>>737599973huh?
its really fucking funny how desperate doomers are right now,; to the point that they blatantly show how they not only dont play the game but, have no idea what they explained in the panel either
>>737599896For me, I mod Scourge onto my Bloodspiller because I fucking hate Bloodspiller and Scourge is too cool not to use.
Can the rabbits wear helmets yet? might swap to one from giraffe in ShB f2P.
>>737599765We're supposed to plant trees in whose shade we might not sit.
>>737600048yeah i didn't even watch the panel so i'm pretty much doomposting cluelessly
Well this aged badly.
people just looking at button inputs and not the actual context of usage, as if pressing 1-2-3 was some feat of skillgod the actual rotational shit in this game was a joke, who the fuck goes at length to piss and moan about the controls becoming semi-conventional besides WoW/theme park MMO addicts
>>737600035>I'm surprised I haven't seen people talk about the complete erasure of Dawntrail stuff this yearWe talked about it multiple times already.
>>737600035it seems that both players and devs are tired of hearing about dawntrailwell, that's fine really.
>Every job is now viper>This is somehow a good thing
>>737599973About that...>>737600035Dawntrail was good for the game.
>>737599240Nigga's a real one. Kate would never.
>>737600048>t. euphoric trannyThere's no way to spin having significantly less buttons for switch 2 tendies is actually LE GOOD
>>737598576Why argue a non argument, anon?
>>737600018>viper is fun
>>737600048It's still bizarre to me how XIV has multiple schizos who obsess about it 24/7 just to shitpost about it, when it's clear that they've never played it.
>>737600116Keep going buddy, the fifth time you post it people will care.
>>737599613they literally did this with Valigarmanda anon...
>737600116>Felt the need to repost his reductionist retard shit because the previous thread archived and he's desperate for attentionGive yourself the (You).
>>737600116You gonna post it in the Switch 2 thread next?
>>737600116You have no idea how viper works.
>>737600139>immediately proves him right
>>737600151begone, au ra player
>>737600087Not really
>>737600160It's people that latched onto the despair of Dawntrail and made it their personality to shit themselves.
>>737600035Not seeing Kate literally set the mood so right for the whole day
>>737600165And it was widely considered the best Trial in Dawntrail, your point?
Hopecucks really aren't realizing this is just Dawntrail 2
>>737600048yeah, found one >>737600127>battlepass.png
>>737600235>this is just Dawntrail 2Please explain how
>>737599846Honestly animation mods, while sometimes are very impressive, like ones by Papachin, I just can't bring myself to use for long because sometimes they are so impressive they spoil the regular ones for me and I worry it'll make new abilities they add look bad by comparison.I would love if Square just hired it because his "Classic" animation mod series are amazing. They try to stick true to the FFXIV aesthetic but with better looking animations overall.
>>737600115These people can never be happy which is why they cut off their dicks
>>737600235If it's DT2, square enix literally diesIf it's actually good, i get a good gameeither way, I win
I wonder what MrHappy thinks about the Evolve Jobs, he was one of the most 'nothing ever happens they'll never change anything' content creators.
>>737600235enlighten us
>>737600139you'll have to try harder, wowtroon
>>737600253I think the fact that I've completed that battlepass confirms I do indeed play the game anon.>Costs Money (Sub)>Limited time run>FOMO rewards that disapear foreverThis is a PVP battle pass, the UI just isn't obnoxious.
How's this armoury change ilvl synch shit gonna work? Wouldn't materias fuck it up?
>>737600281I think he will like themHe is one of the people actually saying 2 min meta was the raiders' fault
>Fewerbuttons but faster game play is le good actuallyUmmmm... I'll just play wuwa
>every job getting unique mechanics that reflect job identity>breaking free from the shackles of the two minute meta>but actually it's bad because there are less oGCD buffs to dump every two minutes
>>737600267Papachin's work is really impressive but he has little restraint and there's often an unclear delineation between what should (visually) be a single target ability and one that's AoE, and the effective radius of an AoE.
>>737600169>he didlol
>>737599765I started playing during 6.4. Can't wait for ShB to drop.
>>737598841If they rework Kaiten they should make it so the kaiten animation is you sheathing your katana and make it work with whatever Iai you choose.
>>737597920>>737597929just watched the video yall motherfuckers disingenuous we still have glare and shit without healing not that i dont actually heal to begin with but yall acting like they flat out removed dps outside of healing gcd
>>737600326I think you could have (rightfully) been doomer about them ever changing things, and still think that it was a bad place to be in and accurately put the blame on raiders. Thank god the doomers like me were wrong. I had lost hope.
Speaking of:Is this the biggest Job/combat system update in the game since ARR?I don't think even the removal of TP was this impactful
>>737600362ITS BAD BECAUSE OF XIVCOMBO NIGGERFAGGOTRY
>>737600362Parsetroons literally despise not being able to perfectly plan every single encounter down to the second.
>>737600325it does yes. specific details are sparse but what they mentioned is that players aiming for BiS would still have to engage in some sort of gear optimization like materia. But if you have level cap gear on tank and want to fill in as dps for a friend group or something you won't get fucked over by weekly lockouts anymore
>removing 2 min burst to appeal to shitters who don’t even play the game >rotations got absolutely gutted to appeal to shitters who don’t even play the game >easy mode savage >removed job identify all jobs are leveled the same>more battle pass fomo shitAre they actively trying to ruin this game or what the fuck is the point of alienating literally everyone who’s enjoying the game for what it is already
>>737600115>WHM and DPS in the same sentenceI'm sick of this shit happening in every game. Every person wants to abuse healing/support classes so they can get "kills" and it's always dogshit players who can't get good at DPS roles
>>737600362No anon, you don't understand. If I have to hit 10 different buttons to do 1800 potency worth of damage, it's more skilled than having to correctly position myself and utilize the right situational conditions to do 1800 potency worth of damage with 4 buttons!
It looks like the obsessed schizo who doesn't play this game finally decided on an angle and now he's spamming it.
>>737600307and by calling it a "battle pass" you outted yourself as an outsider fag
>>737600249THANK YOU WUK LAMAT
>>737600416Cry harder, we know you don't play.
I clapped when I pressed 1 and then pressed 1 again for 10 minutes
>>737600370I agree, though his "classic" series I think he reels himself in a little more. Probably why I like it so much.His new urban DNC one is pretty cool too, but suffered from the issue you stated imo.Hes still the best animation modder out there though.Square, Hire this man!
>>737600408Just play reborn mode little buddy :)
>*Insert bullshit point here*>*Insert nonsense claim that is debunked by easily found info*>*Insert culture war buzzwords*"FFXIV is so RUINED!!!!!"
>>737600362I don't know why people fooled themselves into thinking more buttons = good.Even games like DMC don't have complex mapping but the combination of buttons is what makes them good.FFXIV and 2min meta sucked because there was zero variance outside of your 2min burst except for Nin.I'm kinda pissed that instead of just fixing that issue they scrapped buff windows but it's better than nothing
>>737600362We're literally so back with the changes.
>>737600406Yes. I'd argue SB was the next biggest as the introduction of job gauges and removal of the HW timerspam, AND the proliferation of raid buffs impacted a lot. Until they show fights in depth, SB was also the most impactful on encounter design, as they fully dropped the idea of mechanics being started by reaching HP% and shifted to the current singular timeline (with a few A/B splits).
>>737600416>alienating literally everyone who’s enjoying the game for what it is alreadyBrother the game was dead in the water after DT there's no one left to alienate. This is a hail mary to avoid EoS.
sex with xaela women
holy fuck, the wowtranny is full despair mode
>>737600416>>removed job identify all jobs are leveled the sameAre you fucking retarded? Everyone just did deep dungeons and roulettes. Or do you mean everything gained by lv50? Because major elements of your kit being locked for not getting a duty finder run in a later expansion as you repeatedly have to adjust to "when" you got sent back is fucking awful game design. Even if one could say learning the skills along the progression path was a big part of the job experience, the reality is only a handful of jobs bothered to teach you shit and everything else just drops into your lap, minor or major. The experience has always been dogshit and only got worse the more you had to level.
>>737600416
>>737600392That would be pretty cool imo.
>>737600497holy truke its over!!!
>>737600485The real reason parse trannies are mad is because it was extremely tedious to get high parses, so it enabled them to gatekeep. Now that will be easy for everyone, content won't be gatekept by damage numbers, but rightfully by the ability to follow mechanics.
>every XIV tranny completely retcons what they wanted from "the job rework" after more skills get trimmed.
>>737598739nice i need more pieces to diversify my cyberpunk aesthetic
>>737600492I'd rather play another game
>>737600416Telling it like it is dude
>>737600416Based (you) farmer o7
>>737600497Dont leak the script man
>>737600362The worst part is that jobs were increasingly just becoming "this button is only available when you pressed X button exclusively during raid buffs". It was a total dead end and it was genuinely stifling encounter design. Good riddance.There's so many ways they can actually be more experimental with encounter design now and have encounters with generally less predictable damage profiles. Contextual actions open a lot of doors too.
>>737600603I'd rather you do that too
>>737600416>removed 2 minutes>removed job identityadherence to the 2 minute meta WAS the job homogenization, you literally can't argue these two things together you stupid nigger
>>737600416Mechanics > optimal button pressing
>>737600591>very little skin showingyou get a pass but I think the eyewear could use some work in some of these
NO ITS HOMOGENIZATION THAT DRAGOON CAN JUMP OUT OF DAMAGE BECAUSE....IT JUST IS OKAY?
>Simplified the game even furtherYou can't make this shit up, I asked for HW job designs, not DT pvp
>>7376005915 is my favorite
>>737600654This. If I lose starfall dance, it's a small cost to pay for devilment being gone too.
>>737600583I already knew they wouldn't be able to revamp the 2min meta, I'm fine with the game becoming an action gacha
>>737600709I asked for EW pvp and got it. Get FUCKED nigger
>>737600056Yeah theyve started to add them, many are still on their way though
>>737600709NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE LE WOW TROON
So if we're getting rid of auto-attacks in Evolve mode, does that mean potency numbers will get huge? Like, autoattacks are like a good 20-30% of total DPS during a long fight, isn't it?
AEEEEEEEIIIIIIGH IM DOOMING SO HARD I STOPPED MAKING SENSE!!
>Over 2M downloadsWho is complaining about the 2min meta dying?
>>737600561Shitters will always be shitters, theyve been dumbing down the game since SB and the only result was making shit players even shittier
Evolved jobs on paper looks good and I can't lie about that, but the execution just looks lazy. Slapping the pvp system into PVE instead of trying something different just screams laziness.
>>737593232an idiot admires complexitya genius admires simplicityyou will never understand. you could not understand.
>>737600754no, but you are
>>737600409The real power move will be to keep ignoring the positional positions even in evolve mode.
>>737600709I noticed every bait post has some troonie gacha/anime pic attached to it. Not even just here but other boards too
>>737599412>DRG misjudging their mitigation>BRD jumping down holes>PLD wiping the raid to greed a counter>DRK possibly using HPI'm interested in all the potential ways Evolved jobs can kill themselves.
>[video game] now has a control scheme that actually makes it play more like normal video games instead of autism simulator, and skims the problem everyone had with a ton of barely used to outright dead buttons that were just there to bloat your shit up>plus it was outright untenable for the CONSOLE-DESIGNED GAME to have this shit muck up all the controller inputs>THEY'RE TAKING THE SKILL AND DUMBING IT DOWNNiggers don't bitch about action games being two-three buttons with a jump and shoulders/triggers, but this is troo faarr?
>>737600503Your comparison is fucking retarded because button combinations are also more buttons. The real problem is that most buttons in FFXIV are fucking pointless and don't have a reason to exist. There are plenty of MMOs with classes that have a lot of buttons that actually have a reason to exist instead of just being bloat for the sake of bloat
>>737600481Wuk should have a cameo, just a single line of dialogue in a 4th wall breaking moment talking directly to the player, saying "I did this", and is never seen again.
>>737600798>In This Moment I Am Euphoricgo back
>>737597337They just announced a Yoko Taro Evangelion reimagining this is part of their attempt to turn it into a Gundam like franchise because I guess after Anno finally reached that point in his life he just wants money.>>737597409Crystal Tower is just a copy and paste of of FFIII's final dungeon rush with the only creativity consisting of "Allagans lmao" which just fucked up Allagan lore and art design permanently and turning two NPCs into clones using generic character creator models. It even gave us the goofiness of the FFIII main theme being a major motif in ShB and EW because of how critical to the story they ended up making it.Only HW and EW raids are mostly original although Diablos was one of the first monster designs (besides the FFXI/XIII asset flips) that was taken wholesale from another game instead of having a new take on it.
Even with the new raid difficulty I don't really think the core issue of lack of replayable battle content will be solved. For all the shit WoW gets for M+, its been a massive success in WoW and I'm surprised XIV doesn't take a shot at something like that. The game needs something to do at endgame besides raidlog.
>>737600784Dumb down? You mean make all skills and rotations the same so parse trannies have something to do. AST was ruined so parse trannies could do their dumb dps buff shit nobody cares about. Muh numbers. People want to play the game not stare at charts.
>>737600795If it works, who cares if the answer itself is "lazy"? Elegant simplicity is usually a more effective solution than an over-engineered Rube Goldberg machine that's exhausting to wrap your head around.
>>737597484Didn't they say this stuff wasn't missable fomo? Last time I played they still didn't have a solution, did they ever change something?
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>>737600870Exactly. People praise FromSoft games, but each weapon there only has 3 attacks max and magic is just push button to do damage.
>tural was so ass, wol leaves etherys on his own volition
>>737600870>>737600738>action game>2.5 second gcdnow this is copium holy fuck
>>737600771This game has 10s of millions of players.
>>737600976wol couldn't resist the call of redhead lizard ass
>>737600423I would be delighted if they brought back things like magic skill levels so I could pump the fuck out of my HoT and let Medica II + Regen do the heavy lifting for party maintenance while I focused on situational corrections for the tank.
>>737600956>fomois it really fomo when you have 4 months to get it?
>>737600954Doesn't really look elegant to me, condensing 1-2-3 combos to just one button instead of trying something like free flow combos and such isn't an interesting take. It's just taking a system that already exists within the game and paste it into another.
So every job is gonna play like summoner now LOL
>>737600843Yeah it's like we all moved to chinese/korean gachas because XIV suck monkey dicks nowadays
>>737600695older pic but i honestly switched them all but rpr/drg to be the aviator one the majority are wearing. i also made one for beastmaster that also works great with mnk figment weapon but im keeping that one under wraps til it releases.
Now that I think about it, Endfrost is gonna be a real bad time if you're an Au Ra hater.
Estinien saw what we did at the end of Arcadian and wanted to do it too, what a silly guy
>>737600890Yes but ffxiv doesn't have actual button combination inputs on controllerYou are always just doing L2 + whatever or L2 + R2 + whatever face button.You're right that most buttons were pointless damage buttons but the bigger issue is that the number of actions never made the game actually complex even in HW.The complexity came from just learning your rotation and timing.Mechanical complexity will always be better in my opinion than raw "do the dance" Ninja and Monk as an example.
>>737601040@grok is this true
>>737601034Well I haven't played in like 2 patches and if I were to go back now I would've missed itTherefore yes, which is what they promised it wouldn't be
Hmm..Do you think that with rotations being more freeform and less punishing we'll see more fun stuff like Paladins using Cover and Clemency more actively?
>>737601078We don’t like learning and improving hereWe want to do 123 for 10 minutes straight
>>737600729yeah but its a little awkward for dnc but im finding it hard putting something together hopefully i can find something with the new pvp set.
>NOOOOOOOO MY FIXED 2 MINUTE TIMELINE HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO MEhow buckbroken are these niggas
>>737601126I already do in casual content. I set up XIVCombos so I can actually afford to bother with the button space.
Fellow actual XIV players: Most of us have gone to bed or are leaving for some reason. The shitposting is picking up because there aren't enough XIV players to drown out the WoWtrannies and Yoshida obsessors. Don't engage with them. They aren't trying to understand. They're trying to shitpost, and the more you explain to them the more they brainstorm in their Discord about ways to turn it into a shitpost.
>Expansion releases, you get a new skill or two, you learn your new rotation>Expansion releases, you lose most of your skills, you learn your new rotationHOLY FUXCKING KINO BROS THE GAME IS FUCKINGF SAVED DOOMERS IN SHAMBLES AND BTFO ETERNALLY
8.0 will save the game they saidAll they did was remove ocds and make gcds slightly faster
>>737601126Cover is useless because none of the fights require itClemency is always a waste because any GCD spent not doing damage is a wasted GCDIt's not the skills' fault, it's the design of the game and I don't think reworking buttons is going to fix the underlying issues of no damage = wasted time
>>737601110have you seen the rewards? it should be called romo instead; relief of missing out
>>737601126plds already have a pretty freeform rotation desu. and now that whm get damage from healing, clemency is an active dps loss for both you AND the healer so there's even less reason to use it outside of a dire emergency.Cover is kinda weird, but the fact that they now get the pvp cover that moves you to an ally means that it'll get some more use sure.
>>737601169They have been psyoped over the past decade into believing that the two minute meta is how the game "should" be, and that changes must be bad and for "bad" players.
>>737601039It's already confirmed that there will be branching actions that can unlock post-50, but I imagine it will be Job dependent. Not to mention only shown WIP versions of 4/21 Jobs have been shown so far. But even if it's literally just "We dragged and dropped PvP into PvE and put no additional thought into it", it's STILL better than what we have right now for the bloat and tediousness of PvE
>>737601235this but unironicallyalso, kys tranny
>>737601246But that's completely besides the point. You can't say it won't be missable and then never implement a system that allows people to get it whenever they want. You disliking the rewards is a whole different discussion
It's still a massive red flag that they didn't mention a new MSQ writer
>>737601296>gets BTFO so completely, all he can post on cooldown is "n-no U!!"lmao I accept your concession.
>>737601336it's not fomo when there's no fear
We're all going to Snezhnaya, XIV is DONEZepla WON
>>737601371Like talking to a wall
DOES ANYBODY HAVE VIDEOS OF THE EVOLVED JOBS THEY SHOWED OFF
>>737601235>>737601240NOOSETIMENOWYOU LOST
>>737601369>BTFOtry harder, wowtroon
>>737601154I don't remember the names, but get some of the pvp sets you can buy for currency. The top that has one one arm without sleeve and the knee high boots with shoelaces work really nicely together with the high allagan pants of aiming. For the first two, check for the one that let's you dye the sleeve for the top and laces for the boots.
>>737601393https://x.com/hellostal/status/2047823036779507870
>>737601367I imagine they don't want to throw a live cow into that particular swarm of autistic sharks
New rotations seem kinda boring
>>737601390you literally cannot refute it
>>737601431>OOH MY F->close tabI think I'm good
>>737601475It was the only clip not from the stream that I could find, sowwy
>>737601367probably for 2nd or 3rd fanfest
>>737601454Because that literally never was the concern, I'm not refuting some arbitrary turd you shat out that has nothing to do with what I asked. This isn't a debate retard
>>737601395>The game will always be shit>You loosstYeah, whatever, moving on. XIV has no future
>>737601395>>737601418>little bro dual posting from his PC and phone for thisLMAO, if you're this mad just close the thread
>>737601249Yeah but now using Clemency doesn't fuck up your entire rotation and potentially misaligns you with your fucking triple-damage buff window.
>>737601395interesting choice of self-portrait
>>737601393https://youtu.be/_aCGzxWczCM?t=23315
>>737601556surebut you're still giving up a gcd to do...what the healer was about to do anyway
>>737601589
>little cat nigga village>more Lalafell only houses
>>737601520>arbitraryexactly, fomo is arbitrary and subjectiveit shouldn't taken seriously
>There's going to be future patch trailers that have Eva music in them
>>737601624>>more Lalafell only housesFuck yeah
>>737601240That's based
So when is a good time to resub? Wait for the cross region matchmaking? Are the ques really bad for dps right now? I still have some jobs I need to level to 100 from 90
>>737601552all me, even your post
>>737601659You are so desperate to argue with someone dude there has got to be a better use of your time
>>737601426i have em but they just dont fit the aesthetic enough for me but i am liking the new chest piece for the next set and can probably work with that.
>>737601523>>737601552>>737601567AAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAYOU LOSTNO AMOUNT OF CRYING WILL CHANGE THE COURSE OF THE FUTUREFFLOGS IS DEADNOBODY WILL GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR LOGSNOOSE TIMENOW!!!!
>>737601698Wait for a free login weekend, try to slam through the story, and do some roulettes+exp tribe shit. Resub no more than 1 month before expac release.
>>737601126Probably not, but I prefer niche utility remains. Glad thst cover, clemency, and shield bash survive another expansion
Watched the evolved mode reveal and I just think where’s the long term fun in playing a job with a 3 button rotation? Like you’re not gonna get any better
>>737601715arguing? i just proved to you that fomo is fake and gay, like you
My bet on the twist of Everfrost is that it's going to be time travel but for real this time..YoshiP constantly noted how weirdly non-frozen the world looked, and the trailed talked about a 'wanderer from the sky long ago' who saved the world.My bet is all of 8.0 is closing a stable timeloop of us arriving on the 4th, travelling to the past in the frozen wastelands, then travelling back to the present several thousand years later.
Choose to get more sleep instead of staying awake arguing with discordfags anons, you'll feel better
>>737601727I haven't raided since shb, the game is just shitEnjoy playing alone
>>737601698Wait for 7.55. 99% of DT content will be a thing by then and after catch up 7.56 should be out.
>>737601756The fun never came from pressing the same buttons in the exact same pattern for 10 years. The fun comes from the encounters
>>737601756Fight design being less 20 seconds of the boss standing there followed by 100s of debuff vomit that kills you if you don't stand in the correct place when they expire.
>>737601794Why press buttons at all then? Shouldn’t that be fun too?
evercold? more like evergold.
>>737601756You get good at a job and get to extend that skill to every fight instead of your job being a cosmetic backdrop while you do a dance and wait for buffs to align themselves. And every job actually gets to be unique.Final Fantasy enjoyers won. And balancetroons? They're tying the noose.NOOSETIMENOW
>Mixed all data centers because they know the casualization of the game is going to make even more people quitlmeowi'm not playing with crystaloids
>>737601770I dig it. I will now shill this theory in every thread
Just counters on Paladin is cool
>>737601820>Shouldn’t that be fun too?In a perfect world yes. But that's just not how XIV has done it since stormblood
>>737601815Nyoooo, that's actually kino, don't you see?
>>737601851>they know the casualization of the game is going to make even more people quitPeople already quit with Wuk Lamat. dipshit.
I could’ve sworn they said there’d be a second graphics update in the next expansion, but I’m not seeing anything about it now. What happened to that?
>>737601893I hesitate to call the average /v/ poster "people"
>Boring as fuck jobs = interesting combat designsYou said the same thing about DTHW had both, good jobs and good combat designs
>>737601826EverKino
>>737601927HW jobs were ass if they weren't warrior, summoner, ninja or dragoon.
>>737601904They broke up information about 8.0 into three fanfests. Berlin is next and Tokyo is when the full trailer and info should drop.
>>737601770I dont like time travel shit in general but it would be a good idea for the story to actually utilize the time dilation between shards instead of just magically being synced to the source's flow of time everytime (You) go to another shard
>>737601904They did say specs were going up
Sigh, it never ends.
>>737601965Get away from me
>>737601927DT jobs weren't changed though
>>737601927>HW had ... good jobslollllllllllllllllll
>>737602023>They fix WHM>Everyone begins crying they ruined itLol. Good. Stay way from my old main.
>>737602023does he think white mage has sauce right now????? literally no fucking healer has sauce
AAAAAAAAH IM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING
>5h in one sittingok im hook
>>737602129Welcome to the game.
>>737602023I don't trust many of this guys takes on combat desu.
>>737602023I hate how everyone reduces repeated actions to inner release/fell cleaveIt's such a dishonest framing.
I should have known better
>>737602228This individual suffers from something a lot of XIV players have which is 'not actually knowing what they fucking want' syndrome.
>>737602178if i buy dawntrail i unlock endwalker by default, correct?
>>737602265the doomer queen sinks back, defeated and bereft of kingdom
>>737602117scholars alright, just enough jank to be somewhat fun since it can require you to think.
>>737602284you do yes, but if you're just starting it's a bad idea. once you become a paying customer you have to pay your sub even if you aren't in EW/DT yet.
>>737602284yedon't buy the full game though unless you've done everything you wanted to in stormblood (later shadowbringers once they add it)
>>737601992>>737602020Interesting. So there is hope after all. Thanks for the info.
>>737602284Don't buy until you finish Shadowbringers.
>>737602325>>737602337ok, so for i will just play the vanilla+ 3 expansions, guess that by them i will just buy the new one lol
>>737602265No bitter hags allowed back
You people told me he was seething about evolved jobs. This is far from seething. Seems a pretty reasonable take actually.
>>737602418Honestly I expect him to largely praise the combat changes. Rightfully so.
>>737602418xenosys being all over it does kinda jive with that complaint about all of them being inner release jobs in evolvedremember, xenosys is the "man mode man tanking" retard that championed pumping STR accessories over survivability in heavensward, mostly for warrior's sake
>>737602418the 2 minute meta sucked and i think most people are glad that we might be done with fights where you can have a google doc on the other screen for and will tell you exactly what buttons to press and you'll win just following it. 14's fights were seriously way too scripted.
>>737594639I'm right there with you, anon. I've mained MNK since the ARR days, so I'm eager to see what will change and how they'll try to give the job more of an identity. It'd be fucking fantastic if they gave MNK the parry from PLD, maybe tie it to the "Fists of" skills. They'd have to give them something else to make them usable during group play if they went that route. Something that I personally think would be cool, but others might not, is tying the activation of those skills to a secondary gauge. Once all three have been used, you get a bunch of extra arms like Asura and go all ORAORAORA on some fuckers, or maybe have them channel power into a single strike like our LB3.
>>737600938i see
>>737602265she was right she won.........
>>737601243Clemency, upon cast gain haste +3, Haste for the next x actions the gcd is set to .25. Fixed it for you to make healing PLD viable with no other changes.
