FFXIV is finally on a Nintendo platform and no one cares. Is it even worth getting if you've never played it before?
>>737597686Buy an ad
>>737597771holy basederino ludokino….i kneel…….
>>737597686I will kick anyone who joins my PFs that say they're playing on Switch 2.
>>737597686Doubt anyone will buy this since the majority of FFXIV are literal cheaters and they won't be able to use their 3rd party cheat overlays or have the game play itself for them if they try to play it on the switch.
>>737597894>Redditren>FFXIVcultistYou should be banned from life for having such shit taste
>>737597686Lul
>FF14fags hate switch 2I had no idea you guys were chill like that.Reupping my sub once I beat vampire crawlers
>>737597686Oh cool. Maybe I'll give it a go this time.
>>737597686I’ll be buying it. Cheaper than getting a new PC after mine shit the bed last year. I’ll be continuing from where I left off.
>>737597903maybe outside of japan, japs are all on console
Bro this is fucking brilliant, I might buy it
>>737597686do you have to pay for NSO
If I had any desire to play troon egg cracker 14 I would have years agowho gives a shit
>>737598525no
>>737598551Trannies and Japanese salarymen
>>737598551This. I exclusively play DQX
Okay how the fuck will raids and shit work on the Switch 2? Will it run at 10fps? Like seriously check any raid footage and watch the billion particle effects going on
>>737598930My guess is switch 2 just won't have a lot of the particle effects and it will still run like shitEver played minecraft on switch? I imagine like that
>>737598930you know people play this game on the steam deck, right? i'm sure the switch 2 is more than capable of playing it after they optimize it for the platform
I love how mad are snoyggers abot this.
>>737599021No, bit I did play Pragmata on it and it ran pretty good , but even that game is not as heavy on the sfx as ff14, like I'm imagining maining a Dragooner and thinking how can I combo at 5fps
>>737597686Does this mean they'll be reverting that pointless "graphics update" so it can run on the hardware?
>>737597903>[citation needed]
>>737599630It just means they can use the excuse "Switch 2 limitations please understandu" for the next three expansions.
>>737598020i don't understand this
>>737600075Not even the poster does
switch 2 is more powerful than a PS4 pro, it literally has 4GB of ram more.
>>737600075I'm worried it means switch 2 accounts are trapped on switch 2, no ins no outs. But it could also mean that Time cards are exclusive to switch 2
>>737600274It's probably cross console
>>737597686>Every job is now viper>This is somehow a good thing
Why are Nintendo such gigajews? Was it really too much to ask to let the existing playerbase use the sub they're already paying for to play the game on their platform?
>>737600327Then what is the image attempting to communicate by showing that something about the process of buying FF14 and time is distinct to the switch 2 over every other system?
Tell me why I should hate this new expansion
>>7376003942 min buff are gone
>>737600394people on /v/ are telling you to
>>737597686>shut it down on older playstation>launch it on an even weaker platform????
>>737600394Because The Balance said so!
>>737600384Idk probably loosh farming
>>737600427I said: "tell me why I should HATE this new expansion", not laud it.>>737600435>>737600448I see.I hate it now. It sucks. I want to go back to Dawntrail.
>>737600384you need a separate subscription for the switch 2.with PS4 for example, if you own the game on both PC and PS4, you can use both with the same monthly feeIf you're using the switch, you have to pay an additional sub for it.
>>737600148More ram != more powerful, techlet
why do people even still play this game? it was nothing but downhill after shb
>>737600075Switch 2 has a different subif you have the PS5 version and PC version, you can play on both with the same sub, but not on Switch 2; you need to pay a separate sub.They did say that it was mandated by Nintendo and that they just wouldn't budge on this point, for whatever reason. Probably just Nintendo Tax.But you can play without a switch online sub, for what it's worthThey also said that if you have a standard sub, you can get 50% off the Switch 2 sub.
>>737600570This is what I assumed. Very jewish
>>737600123There's a reason MMORPG's on Switch 1 died almost immediately. But I'm not spoonfeeding you.
>>737600672Not really but ok.
>>737600371That's a SE thing actually. Back in the XI days you could jump around any version with your account(hell, there was a shipment delay on the PC version of Wings of the Goddess so there were people like me who bought the PS2 version and registered the expansion on their PC version with it). Then when XIV came out they forced everyone to buy the game and expansions separately for each platform you wanted to play on, even with the same account.
>>737600721Their whole system is fucking stupid>play trial>like trial>buy some discounted on sale bundle of basegame and 2 expansions>I'm now no longer allowed to play the previously free ENTIRE BASEGAME TRIAL because "He bought" If the entire basegame is free to play in the trial, the entire basegame should be free to play for everyone, not taken away the moment I give you fucking money
>>737598525no, but you need a separate sub altogether. you can't just buy the switch 2 version and play with the same sub you have on your account you use to play on PC
I've been hoping for a dual gunshield tank job for literal years, you cannot make me hate this expansion
I have seen so many people mad at Reaper wol in the trailer because they thought it was Zero and felt baited. Did they forget she became a paladin?
>>737600641it is, but they did clarify that it was Nintendo's decision, and they tried to make it work, but Nintendo just wouldn't budge.Best you get is a 50% discount on your Switch 2 sub if you already have a standard sub
THE ACTUAL MAD LAD DID ITHE BROKE US FROM THE WHEEL
So Switch 2 users are required to start on a level 1 account?
>>737600992Golbez, I was wrong about you...I kneel...
>>737600897My heart goes out to laptop shitters who will time their sub expiring to then re-up on switch only to find it still runs like shit AND now you're trapped with shitty controller controls>ackshually controller mode is really good!It may be better than WoW which has no controller support, but it's still wet asscheeks to kbm
>>737600915the shirts wasnt because oif the tankIt was a duel wield clueIs a dual crossbow ranger
>>737600897kind of pointless for PC gamers thenyou could just get a steam deck and play with one copy of the game on one sub
I better not see any balancetroons getting uppity up in hereKnow your place
>>737601015Have you not tried it on the ps5? Controls are even better than keyboard
>good looking 7.5 a few days from landing followed by its patches over a span of time>people looking forward to everkino
>>737601049yes, but they need to pay the nintendo tax, sadly
>>737601074I've tried it with my controller on PC.Its "cozy" but its not good. As I said, it's the best MMO controller scheme, it's still shitty
This is a big deal, but everyone is talking about the whole evolved vs reborn shit
>>737600148The game barely runs on the 4 anymore. It's borderline unplayable.
>>737601205I mean, they already said the PS4 version's days are numbered. Yoshi said that by 8.3, it is probably getting the axe
>>737600865It's a fucking demo, retard. Not some "f2p" mode. Zoomers really aren't beating the accusations of tech illiteracy.
>>737601187I just wonder if it'll blow up in their face.It's definitely really big.
I do love how in Evercold your dps will depend entirely on you and no one else. Resulting on having personal responsibility.
>>737600998Was this answered?
>>737601187What does this mean? All your jobs share your highest ilevel?
>>737601409That sounds like a good thing tbough
>>737597686sega sissy seethe thread.
>>737600998no idea. they said they require a separate sub, but I don't know if that means your old PC account won't work
>>737601435yeah
>>737601409I'm just glad we're rid of the gay ass synchronized swimming that inhibited both boss fight design and job design.
>>737601187>People who don't know their barely played Job can now join Savage in full fake BiS and prevent clears
>>737601510I'm going to be one of those players btw
>>737601510that's gonna be me playing freestyle SAM
>big customization update is just alien skin colors, neon hair and eyeshadowHuh?Where are extra faces, beards, horns, scars, sliders?This is genuinely a disappointment. I was looking forward to a big character creator update.
>>737601046Linkle?
>>737601504>coordinating with others in an MMO is a bad thing???
>>737601784>coordinating (mindlessly pushing your same button that is designed to fresh on time with the rest at the same time)
>>737597686>Is it even worth getting if you've never played it before?>He boughted the Cloud Version>He paided the Nintendo Tax>He boughted the Square-Enix TaxLMAO.
>>737597894
>>737597686Where is FFXIII?
>>737597903Bro I wouldn't be surprised if a large amount of the playerbase are PS4/PS5 players. This was a console-focused game to begin with and has been since the PS3.
>>737600983nintendo does this with other games too, warframe and fortnite as 2 other examples. platinum in warframe bought on a switch is locked on the switch ecosystem and can only be traded to other switch players, whereas pc/xbox/ps players can all trade amongst each other.nintendo is a weird fucking company, some games on it only allow you to play with other switch players as well instead of being crossplatform, puyo puyo tetris even has separate servers for switch 1 and switch 2 players. it's a baffling console at times.
>>737602073I initially started ff14 on pc, then moved to ps3 when it released there, and will now migrate 100% to the Switch 2 when it releases.
>>737601435You get optimal gear for stats and melding to tackle the most hardcore content, but in general once you've geared your best/priority job you can swap to anything else to do the general item level without having to grind up EVERYTHING for every single individual job individually.
>>737597686I mean, shouldn't it have the F2P version that you could try? Literally Shadowbringers now.
>>737602206If not needing NSO holds too you can just play the free trial forever on your Switch 2 and not even have to pay Nintendo a dime.
>>737597686so game is basically dead now right?>remove gear from game>add 1 button rotation
>>737597686can't wait to do expert rouls with switch 2 players on wifi
>>737602206The only real caveat is the subscription being separate of other platforms, though you get half off of it if you're subbed simultaneously elsewhere. Nintendo's a bunch of cunts like that. But I guess technically being a half F2P game allows them to cheat and escape NSO requirements.
>>737602206You will have 31 days (a full month) of beta testing 100% all of the content on the Switch 2 , probably on July.
>>737597686Every job is VPR with Inner Release now. It's over. The game is dead.
>>737597686For the average FFXIV player, which is an extremely casual Japanese person, this is a huge win. This isn't for real gamers like you or me.
>>737602293Amd btw no other console or the PC has this beta open period , no NSO required either
>>737602305You don't even have context or understand what you're bitching about.
>>737601473Schizo-chan, you could at least update that webm. It's actually been four years since 2022.
>>737602357The context is that XIV is DEAD and is reaching for relevancy. They don't know what to do anymore. It's all downhill from here.
>>737602409evangelion is a crossover whore, everybody's had a turn with her
>feels like nobody is ever discussing the trailerHow can people not respect that clean fucking dropkick?
>>737602457Besides people musing that the old lady has a miqote tail and thus could be some Motoya-Y'shtola shard meme, there's honestly not much substance to sink into for the trailer since it retreads ShB so much.
>>737597686>>737597894I'm using tilt controls!
>>737601962KEK
>>737602305you already posted this
>737602305Sweet, the retard evolved his buzzpost.
>>737602457It was great.
If you think this game coming to the Switch 2 is the death of ff14 you're insane
>>73760225890000k incoming>>737602660he's kinda right doe
>>737602750If anything I expect the average tendie is gonna be better at this game than the average Playstation mong
>>737602750its a kid's game coming to a kid's console. WoW would literally be unplayable on the switch because it requires adult skill.
>>737602457Felt good to see my bro
I can't believe doomers won. The game is made for mobile phone game moms now.They even added a phone game battlepass. It's grim. It really is in maintenance mode.
>>737602823lul
>balancetroons still meltingNOOSETIMENOW!
>>737602254Gear is already gone though as 100% of players use glam.
For a better experience on the Switch 2, should anons go to reddit, here, or just play 100% solo when it releases on July?
>>737602518I'm more surprised that Vipper is sidelined by Reaper by the end of the trailer.Honestly feels like Reaper has never really gone anywhere after it's initial EW release, it's just sort of there.
Doomsissy status?
>>737602839zivvies will eat up anythingtoo bad for them that everyone else will leave now
>>737602839Yeah the battle system got thoroughly shat on. Fisher is now more complicated than any battle job lmao.
>>737602751You're not.
>>737602872jesus every post with this pic in the archive is embarrassing
>me when I prepare to jump after both tanks use shirk on me
>>737602952>balancetroon wailingAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
>almost all of my static members are talking about switching to another mmothey fucked UP!
>>737601046No, “he’s back”Obviously that means new phys ranged will use giant boomerangs, like Aika from Skies of Arcadia
>>737603003what are they seriously gonna go to loland over... what, the meta changing away from how rigidly ninja has defined it since it introduced trick attack?
Btw how is /vg/ taking all these Switch 2 ffxiiiv news?
>>737602927Serves them right. No new players are joining this.
>>737603052Don't think they care, since it has nothing to do with modbeasts or parsing.
>>737603092Idk what modbeast is but parsing is not going to be hard to implement
>>737597686The crowd definitely seemed whelmed. Also the Nintendo fuckery of requiring a separate subscription but no internet subscription makes me think that Squeenix is just paying it for you.
>>737603092But it kind of does affect parsing
>>737603003We just had 2 people quit mine after these announcements.I do not think this is going to go down well and more people are going to unsub and contribute to the bancho.
>>737603052seems switch 2 news went over like a lead balloon for them, nothing on a ctrl-f>find a lala with nipple pasties and a thongOOOAAAAAAAAA SEEEEEEEEEEEEX
Will the battle changes let them move away from "dance' battles?
evolved mode is fixing every complaint i had of the current system and putting in a lot of things I wantedgonna be really funny if people actually drop the game over it, i genuinely cannot imagine anyone who started in shadowbringers and earlier wanting to stay on reborn mode until the end of time
How did they fuck up the battle system? I didn't watch the Fagfest because I have 0 faith in Yoshit Piss
I can't believe 2minute meta is finally fucking gone.>>737603138Modding.
>>737603202One guy singlehandedly saved it.
>>737603187seems the intention yeahreborn is probably both for acclimation to the new system and so that older ultimates are less cancerous, and even then the lack of raid buffs is going to have a knock-down effect on how they work
>>737602921Well some of these things have emphasized old jobs, like Endwalker focusing super hard on the Paladin. Since Reaper fits the Ilsabard origins as sunny farmers turned to survivors in icy wastes, who else BUT Reapers for an ice world?
>>737602839>>737602927>>737603003>>737603084>>737603170you done talking to yourself yet
>>737603202every job plays like vpr with inner release now apparently and now a lot of people are quitting since the game is going to be ruined
>>737603216modbeasting is not modding, modbeasting is turning into one of those huge korean cash-shop monsters straight out of KMMOs and second life
>>737597903>buyIt has a free trial that includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn, the award-winning Heavensward, and its second major expansion Stormblood and allows you to play up to level 70 with no restrictions on playtime.
>>737603003Let me guess; WAR mains mad that they are now bitch-tier?
>>737603202>what did they do>explain it to me i cant be arsed to do the most basic of information gathering myself cause im a special boyFuck you retard.
>>737603265Spamming bullshit doesn't make it true.
>>737597686Evercold is saving FFXIV, unikirkally.
>>737603265i used to joke about them doing that but they actually are simplifying jobs even more?
>>737603332their definition of simplifying is "removing party buffs"which they actually are doing, across both the "reborn" playstyle (long GCD chains and OGCDs) and the "evolved" playstyle (one-button GCD combos, few/no OGCDs, more unique actions)
>>737603321Here's reality looney troony!
>>737603265>hurr dur evry job vipurHow many times are you going to post this meme, jeetcel?
>everyone on /v/ loves the changes>all of the trannies on Twitter are seething>Kate fired>Yoshi P and CEO declare the game will be getting its budget backOh yeah I'm thinking we're back
>>737603332they're turning every job into a pvp one. now every job has a 1 button combo and a couple ogcds.poster >>737603380 is coping.
>>737603381all it takes for faggots on /v/ to also start using a meme incorrectly is for mangalawyer to use it incorrectly first, apparently
Sorry, Xenosys Vex hates the changes and I get all my FFXIV takes from him. So the new jobs are objectively bad, until he decides they aren't when its time to get invited for the media tour.
>>737603409I just want to play ff14 on the bed while enjoying summer
>>737603381>heh im the based guy being zen and not caring while the ships sink around me>but also i spend every waking moment of my life gloating about sinking ships (that aren't really sinking) and arguing in threads about itHmmm...
>Simple fast comboThe wowsissyfication is complete
>>737603463"up to patch 5.55 for free on switch 2, forever, no NSO" is shockingly generous
>>737603474who are you quoting?
>>737603332you have reborn mode for all the old jobs which play like normal, you got evolved mode that streamlines the actions into combos, context actions, and one general hotbar. mechanics then change per class with new potencies, cast times and effects, like PLD gaining a parry, DRG getting a damage mit return of Sky High jumps and focusing on positionals more than ever, BRD changing how their songs work as a support but also getting shoot-dodges with Wanderer's Volley, WHM focusing on GCD heals now to gain meter to a super burst while having no cast timers on oGCD attacks, etc.if anything they've effectively hybridized PvP elements into it all because they literally got the PvP guy to design the mode.
>>737603446He's pretending to like them while crying about how he can no longer clear content as WAR.
>reaper as poster jobI'm down for it
>>737603487It's pretty fucking insane isn't it?
>>737603446Xenosys Vex wants all tank jobs to be literally identical.He said so too during the Dawntrail media tour. Basically wanted everything unique about Gunbreaker taken away so it would be "less to stress about doing correctly"
>>737603474bonus points for the buddhistic heresy of championing their non-intervention on matters they clearly care about. niggas never be getting out of samsara with that kind of karma weighing on them
>>737603332Evolved Dragoon straight up has positionals that demand both left and right, sinistral and dextral, flank attacks.I'm sure it won't be for every job but making it mechanically easier but requiring more movement and what not to balance it out isn't a terrible play.
>>737597686Never late adopt an mmo. It's gonna be full of so much bloat that you'll be completely overwhelmed as a noobie. You need to acclimate to the systems gradually or it's information overload.
>>737603484crazy to think all the talk today was just fluff for something they want to quietly sunset and move on from
>>737603003>he still has static membersWe all quit in EW
>>737603484>wow gives xbox players one button rotations that do everything with one repeated press at a damage loss>xiv formats itself more like an actual game with multiple buttons to juggle without needing to swap hotbars repeatedly for every little thing and adds new mechanics on top of thisi fail to see the comparison
>>737603529that's a lot of fucking online game you're getting completely for free, it really is. even if you're cucked out of the market board and retainers.
>>737603546>Evolved Dragoon straight up has positionals that demand both left and right, sinistral and dextral, flank attacks.it also looks way busier than current DRG, which has a busy opener and burst, then a lull for like a minute, then a slight hike up, then another lull, then burst, rinse repeatthis seemed nonstop. were there any cooldowns?
GUESS WHO'S BACK
>>737602457It's good but it's probably half of the trailer, or even less, and the music is distorted. Cool but we can't get too hyped until we see it in full.
>>737603003the casuals in my fc say the rest of the stuff looks boring toothis game is doomed
>>737603202>2 minute meta raped and gaped (gone)>damage raid buffs killed>lots of button consolidation, many are based on context (shield toss becomes shield bash in melee range, etc)>single button combos but some of them have faster GCDs>in return there's some stricter or more context-sensitive actions required to be optimal that can take away control from the player that promote job flavor and fights from Evercold onwards will now be designed so that each job has to do their own optimizations without a rigid schedule caused by 2 minute metasome examples:>PLD cover needs you to jump to the person you're covering and has the closest thing they can get to a parry (2 second defensive that gives you access to a counterattack when hit)>DRG still has positionals required to buff later moves, but doing a jump lets you ignore a positional once. also has the PVP limit break now with 90% damage reduction while you're airborne>BRD songs no longer affect damage in anyway, now a different assortment of utility buffs, but you have to play the three main songs at least once to get access to a stronger move with a cast time, the songs are locked out after use and only come back after the power move is used. repelling shot can also go in all four directions and does damage now, increases a gauge that gives another strong attack>WHM can now use healing GCDs without losing damage
People complaining about rotation shit when no one plays the game manually
>>737603616>were there any cooldowns?Kinda, but they're gauge based. DRG has to build up to Sky High by building gauge with the flank combos, but the attack itself has no actual cooldown.
>New tank is a flail user>New ranged is a fucking slingshot usopp characterNot sure how to feel about this.
>he thinks I'm reading shit that he regurgitated from his favorite e celebLmao
>>737603446>>737603538Xenotrannies on suicide watch
>>737603682Oh yeah, sure. But I mean like Geirskogul and Nastrond? Don't you basically pop it with every positional attack?
>>737603616There were demoing them in debug mode with cooldowns disabled so we don't actually know.
Combat Devolved
>>737603667Yeah, if anyone is seriously raiding at any genuine level anymore they're probably just condensing everything with plugins or outright full blown automated cheating anyway.
>>737603647I do hope we have some de-contextualizations or at least a better UI for them. You won't be able to mash shield bash if you're running at a mob to stun them ASAP in say, deep dungeons for example
>>737600635>They also said that if you have a standard sub, you can get 50% off the Switch 2 sub.Sounds like Nintendo just wants half the sub money and SE is willing to give them the whole thing as long as they get their full price from a regular sub.
>>737603706 the girl is the new MT right?
>>737603706Hey, man, I earned it.
>>737603716>this is what /v/ was hyping me up forYou fuckers lied to me this looks boring and braindead
>>737603647I don't get this WHM GCD thing, I was pretty sure they already had that with Lily.
>>737603685>New tank is a flail userFlails are based, but why would you think that? Seemed kind of on the nose that it's going to be something shield related.
>>737603647>>BRD songs no longer affect damage in anyway, now a different assortment of utility buffs, but you have to play the three main songs at least once to get access to a stronger move with a cast time, the songs are locked out after use and only come back after the power move is used. repelling shot can also go in all four directions and does damage now, increases a gauge that gives another strong attackI really hope there's more to this because rn that just reads like summoner
URRHHH MORE BUTTONS MORE BETTER I LIKE DOING THE SAME ROTATION EVERY TIME EVERY 2 MINUTES I LOVE MINDLESSLY PRESSING BUFF BUTTON IN SYNC WITH REST OF GROUP
I never had any hope
>>737603332I'm just glad they killed the 2m meta.3m was fine because of the smaller 1m and 90s windows that broke the repetition more often.Evolved could be fine depending on the actual mechanics but that's a per job basis.Not a fan of the harder MT/OT delineation though because it'd force Reborn in some cases, which they said would be slightly weaker as default.I'll resub for 8.0 and try it out personally. It's not a hard fail but it does raise concerns.
>>737603667New Switch 2 players will not have their brainrot from this btw
whats your fav expansion? for me its shadowbringers
>>737603782soon mazed xivvies will have 1 button mode like wowbucks
>>737603768it was in the leaks that were (mostly) correct pre-keynote
>>737603768There were leaks a day or two ago in the fanfest setup making big claims about the jobs when there's literally nothing to go off of from the leaks and they were kind of shooting wildly in the dark about various details. Shit, guesses about winter stuff, data centers and other factors were commonly requested, and everyone was expecting PvP Combos in some format or another, so it's not like they even tried hard.
>>737603765In a vacuum it's fucking stupid because lillies are a thing yes. Hopefully fight design aligns to better make use of this job design space.
Egh, the 3 doomer jeets are starting to spam their new halfbaked narrative while most of the people with an actual interest already talked about it and left.
>>737600448Anything that pisses those troons off is invariably a good thing. Them and their ilk have ruined FFXIV.
>trailer says (you) will unite the stars unto one (the reflections clearly visible for this)We're just becoming les malign ascians aren't we? Less horrible versions of rejoinings?
>>737603706All joking aside this seems like it may make PF more of a bitch than it already is, and that's assuming this only matters for 'hard mode' content. Also means WAR and DRK will have to be totally reworked since their whole thing is getting hit, but if they can't get hit anymore then they can't function as a solo tank, meaning they may not even be able to do dungeons properly.
>>737603774The main thing is that you want to optimize the song timings to certain parts of the fight so that they're more effective. In theory, you're actually allowed to slam all three songs as soon as the fight starts, but there's a new timer associated with songs (3 charges, 20 second charge time) and you can only play songs whenever you have a charge.
>>737603779This but unironically since I'm not a retarded shitter with lower apm than a quadruple amputee
>>737603880still cleaning up ascian mess seemingly, this time undoing the damage done by even instating zodiark and hydaelyn as wills of the planet and necessitating the sundering
>>737603880That was always the logical end point for the world, it was never going to continue existing in the shattered state it's in forever (especially once Hydaelyn was kill)
>>737603897>since I'm not a retarded shitterI'm not so sure about that
>>737600915The jobs were already leaked.>Tank that uses Flails/Maces>Ranged that uses Slingshots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogCRNvghbiw>/v/ is so bad at video games they can't even play better than a double amputee
>>737603880In 6.4 (not 7.4), Y'shtola more or less already said the reflections were gonna drift back to the Source.
>>737603967Not a single thing there was correct.
>>737603938>No ui'm not the one asking for fewer buttons
>>737600915The hint on the shirt was Guess who's backGuess who's back = Eminem = Marshall
>>737603880This was inevitable, because the worlds naturally drift to rejoin one another. With Hydaelyn gone, this process is now irreversible, unless we devise a means to stop it.
>>737604020ok piano boy
>>737604008to be fair they were super close to the japanese name for the expansion
>NO DUDE YOU DON'T FUCKING GET IT!!!>YOSHI IS MY FRIEND AND BEING EVEN LESS ACTIVE IN THE 3 SECOND GCD IS FUN!!!!
>>737603849Lillies depended more on your co-healer for how good they felt.WHM and SGE was just fucking miserable.
>>737597686I'm surprised it's not until August, I thought they would want to make sure more casual players would have time to catch up to the end before the expansion, maybe I'm overestimating how long it actually takes if you don't get as caught up running half a dozen alliance roulletes every day like I did.Still thought I thought it would be a switch 2 launch title, I know Nintendo were stingy with dev kits but it's square, surely they could have spared one for squares biggest game
an mmo on a handheld is very comfy
>>737604048That's a compliment
>this whole emphasis on player individualityWoL will get wanked even further in EC story lol, thanks Wuktrail
>>737601510There’s a second category for savage gear. So I wonder what’s the deal with that
>>737604038>spoilerThat's pretty kino if true
>>737597903You're thinking of WoW, people might use a few minor QoL stuff but proper cheating is not that common
>>737604074No way.... really?
I wonder if the parry mechanic for PLD also works on regular boss abilities or if it's specifically tankbusters. It's fucking tasty regardless.
>>737603885Just play Reborn.The hard break between them is for their Evolved movesets.
>>737601435you know how your item level goes down when you sync for a duty, and your materia turns off? now it's the same, but for syncing upwhat it practically means is you're not gated out of playing a max level job in new content just because you aren't gearing it
>Hard pandering to free style sam and viper subhumans>It's stronger too because lol
>garleniggersdead>ilsbardcovered in fog>katefired>hiroimissingI WON
>>737604054always the shitposting turds with no real steadfast principles or views that project their parasocial mentality on others
>>737604141it's assumedly most any damage after holy sheltron is used, so holy sheltron is gonna be the limiting factor
>>737604141I would assume its based on how much damage you would have taken if the attack was unmitigated because otherwise you could just press it on every single boss cast and it'd be unfair to the off-tank jobs that aren't getting countersMakes me wonder how GNB will turn out though, seemed like a perfect candidate for having counters since it's supposed to be based on Seifer's gunblading and he was a fencer
>>737604193said it before, will say it again, always gonna say it: nobody thinks about yoshida more than people who hate him because they need a strawman to attack. i literally do not think about yoshida at all outside of funny internet pictures, live letters, and fanfests. like this funny internet picture
>>737604149I seriously doubt reborn mode is sticking around, given new jobs apparently won't have that.
I'm not against Evolved jobs but I'm against not making Reborn versions of new jobs. Having 2 formats for all jobs going forward would have been fun.
Can't you just switch back and forth between modes? Or is the old mode completely gone?
>>737604252reborn mode is just there to make the pill easier to swallow.they will get culled eventually
>>737604275They said you can switch it when out of combat. But all jobs going forward will not have the 'old' mode, so I expect them to just remove old style in 9.0.
>>737604252They're going to phase reborn out entirely over the next couple expacs. It only exists so people don't freak out when they log into 8.0 and their job is missing half its buttons and plays significantly different.
>>737604275you can switch back and forth between modes, but there's already changes reflective of the new design philosophy even in reborn mode, like party buffs completely dying
>reborn>It's the current version>EvolvedIt's devolved
>>737604252I doubt they will keep them around long term.Reborn or Evolved is sticking around depending on which is more broadly popular.>>7376042752 min meta is gone regardless. Otherwise, for 8.0 and 8.x, you can switch between Reborn and Evolved as you wish.
I have a very important question. If I get this expansion, can I skip the MSQ of Dawntrail and pick up right where this one begins?
>>737603880I mean this isn't a new concept. The story repeatedly compared the Scions to the Garleans in trying to stop Primals, except we were the less genocidal option. Azem always had a counter plan for the sundering, too. The only way anything really resolves at this rate is by effectively finding a less fucked up way to fix problems.
>>737604358they sell skips so yes
>>737604249Which is still at least two years of having it.There's going to be a meta shift. It'll depend on how that lands and how they adjust things between 8.0 and when they ditch Reborn movesets.Not worth worrying about. At least not yet.
>>737604358No. You'll have to pay 25 dollars for a Dawntrail skip when it gets added.
>>737603967They wouldn’t be so gay as to use slingshots when canons and bombs are right there.
>>737604358Maybe if you buy a MSQ skip
>>737604307I could see them going either way, keeping Reborn mode means they don't have to go back and re-balance any of the old stuff because they at least know it works, plus it's a curiosity people can mess with. If they do another combat overhaul they could easily axe it though, I think going forward stuff is clearly going to be designed around Evolved mode jobs.
>>737604358sort-ofyou're gonna be lost because there's still context in the post-dawntrail buildup thoughcringe lamat getting skipped really isn't worth turning into one of the billions of "I SKIPPED CUTSCENES EXPLAIN STORY 2 ME" fruit-flies that populate FFXIV threads
>plugsuits with 8.0>taimanin suits with 9.0Sounds good to me
>>737597686Square-Enix is truly desperate for that Nintendo fanbase they insisted on ignoring for twenty-five years...
>>737603967Yeah this leak is bullshit or straw grasping at obvious decisions.
>>737604386>tfw the Dawntrail skip is the most profitable item in the history of the cash shop
>>737604386>>737604383>>737604395Best $25 I'll have ever spent. Truly genius on their part. Make a story so ass people will pay to skip it.
>>737597686ANON WATCHING THE STREAM, YOUR WISH IS GRANTED
world prog/hardcore players are crashing out over 2 min being removed. why?
>>737604380I've been happy throughout most of DT so I'm fine.I will say I'm glad he listened to some complaints on things, though. Mainly jobs. And I hope they can manage to inject some life into open fields and hunts.
>got the 7.0 MSQ done but never resubbed sinceOh god I don't wanna do the item grind again but I need to get the rest of this shit done.
>>737603967with the context of today this reads like a leaker trap
>>737604467Because they've spent a decade playing the game this way and change scares them
The 2min meta was boring but turning even job into 3 buttons is even worse
>>737604417They've already planned evolved to be preferable for sync because you have a full moveset at 50.That makes it lean more heavily to removing rebron sets in the end.
>>737604489Item grind? You mean gear to get through the rest of the MSQ?Just buy crafted gear on the marketboard or get the second tier of tomes real quick and get a full... Historia... was it? Set with it.
>>737604380should be "dalamud was in retrograde" or "the dragonstar was in retrograde"
>>737604181>actually liking rigid rotations and 2 min buffsync "gameplay"Wtf is wrong with you, nigga?
>>737604428Won't bother me. The game ended with Endwalker, and I couldn't care less about the story at that point, I just play as a merc at that point. "Oh yeah I'm sure that was interesting or whatever, can you pay me now?"
>>737604234Really PLD, the job who already has a number of support abilities being the main tank is weird while WAR, the job all about surviving hits being a support is weird as hell. It will be funny to see WARs freaking out about probably being beefer WHMs or something though. >>737604429>put Alisaie in plugsuit>she still looks the same as AlphinaudWould that be an L or...?
>>737604436Square has a new CEO that's neutral , previous one was 100% non Switch everything
>>737604467The game was so primed for raiders first and foremost that the idea of having to change is like trying to teach a Fortnite Builds player to do anything but turbobuilds, quick edits and pump shotguns.
>>737604512having more buttons is shit if there's no genuine utility for having them beyond a memory check which is honestly one of the worst things you could possibly balance aroundthe fact that DRG positionals are actually stricter now and they have the PVP jump is worth it alone
>>737604563>i don't care about the story but i'll pay for a skip on the parts i don't like in the story i don't care aboutright.
>>737604534nta but how about this
>>737604391Who's to say they can't slingshot bombs? You think they only going to be shootan acorns bud??
>>737604467Because they can’t just spam their heavily memorized rotation anymore
>my homeboy estinien and boiwife alphinaudCINEMA
>>737604605how does that not make senseyou still have to talk to NPCs and waste time running around if you dont by the skip
>>737604605manually skipping dawntrail requires pressing escape 300+ times
>>737604635perfect
>And get this. I just said to their face the baby mode wasn't actually a baby mode AND THE LITTLE RETARDS ACTUALLY BOUGHT IT AHAHAHAHAAA
>>737604640A slingshot is just of a gay weapon in general when you can be toting a bow or a fucking gun.
>>737604541Well, before today, the major gripe people had was with job design and shitposters clung on to that and echoed it.Now CS3 has listened, and they were never good faith about the complaints they regurgitated from others in the first place, they must now pick a contrary stance.
>>737604605I don't want to so much as waste a second of my time skipping through the rest Dawntrail. I just want the new content. I still follow the threads every so often and not one good thing has been said of any patch story wise in 7.0.
Hopecels lost again, ever since SB
>>737604659Cheers.
>>737604467Same reason why high end PoE1 players hate PoE2, >>737604498 they can't handle change
>>737604681>He's not dennis the menace pilled.
>He expected more complexity instead of further lobotomization
>>737604759explain how pressing 20 buttons in a preset order is complex
>>737604759is XIV the only Final Fantasy game that actively does not incorporate elemental affliction and bonuses into its combat?
>>737604759t. guy who doesn't know what "sinistral" and "dextral" mean
>>737597686haven't they already made 15 and 16?
>pick rebornyep its gaming time
>>737604694Why even comeback when this actually looks worse than TrannyTail pre-release.
>>737604759But they are more complex now, even if not widely so. Just because you hit less buttons doesn't mean shit next to the actual moment to moment mechanics.
>>73760478716 made by the same fucking guy :^)
Why are niggers insisting on spamming DUMBED DOWN LOBOTOMIZED SIMPLIFIED when we have videos showing the jobs having actual mechanics attached to them now instead of just pressing buttons in a set order? Do they think we just weren't watching the presentation?
>>737604810They literally promote the mode as being easier
>>737604834Doomposters grasping at anything they can find.
>>737604829I'm noticing a trend...
>>737604834i assume a lot of people turned off the stream when yoship mentioned street fighter 6 modern mode in perfect english without waiting for koji's translation saying they weren't doing it>>737604861they straight up said it wasn't
>>737604784People wanted HW job deigns back, which wasn't 20 buttons in a preset >>737604789Dude left and right, shame theres nothing else to do than gcds now>Press true north
>>737604789Larboard and Starboard obviously.
>>737604834The same presentation where the presenter keeps saying the changes make the job easier to play?
>winter>alphinaud and estinien>Garlean tank class>Mechaendyboos btfo
>>737604834because they can't find any actual topic to shitpost about
>>737604909I don't remember that happening
>>737604787It used to if I'm remembering right. Then that got trimmed out because there was basically no reason to build around it. All of XIV is essentially one decade+ turn over from old MMO WoW copypaste mechanics to an identity crisis in trying to figure out what the fuck it wants to be.>>737604861Easier to understand your buttons, but the entire goddamn point is that there's actual things they do that are more complex than what jobs have become now.
So this is how you quell your players so a better and more gamer generation can join (on the Switch 2) I kneel Yoshi Pato
>>737604909That is quite literally not what was said you fucking liar.
>>737597686>Dead series FFXIVSilly janny...
It's going to be so funny watching this explode in everyone's faces. Remember how excited everyone was for Dawntrail?
>>737604428You know there are wikis end endless youtube plot summaries right?
>>737604894>HW job deigns back, which wasn't 20 buttons in a preset anon i can look up endgame rotations from that time. jobs have broadly had the same number of buttons since ARR. it's part of why skill crunch sucks every expac, even
>>737604963>>>737604948
>>737604795kicked for low dps.
>>737604909They said they were making WHM easier to understand for beginners. Which to be fair, it was not intuitive that you're not supposed to touch any of your GCD heals. They're doing that by,...making GCD heals matter more.
>>737604963Will you be mad if it IS good?
>>737604963>Remember how excited everyone was for Dawntrail?I don't, right from the start the reception was mild. Of course no one thought it would be as bad as it was.
>>737604963yeah yeah dawntrail this ergo nobody should care about or be excited for anything
Even their shitposts are on a set rotation
>>737604934>It used to if I'm remembering right.It did. Holdover from 1.0 mostly but it had its moments. Like the spiney plume in garuda ex gave some ridiculous amount of wind stat. But it gave something daft like 80000 to do what it did. So it was effectively useless even in ARR.
>>737604965sure but why would you pay to not play a video game and then spoonfeed yourself the story outside of the video game
its going to be difficult to trust any reviews of Evolved Mode from XIV players that have been non-stopped subbed because they're all raidtrannies who hate changedthank god you get all evolved actions in the free trial
i just see a lot of uncoordinated button spam keyboard mashing
>>737605049>shitposters are rebornies
>>737604963>Remember how excited everyone was for Dawntrail?Yeah.... It was embarrassing . I called it day one it was going to be shit because Woke Lemutt was already unbearable in 6.55
so i saw the keynote but missed the new battle system demonstration. is it so over or is it an improvement and they're just letting people have the old playstyles for a bit to manufacture consent?
>>737605105LOOOOL laugh at these reborntoddlers
>>737605093Yeah, it would look like that to someone who has never played the game.
>tomestones are dead>global ilevelSo what's the new months-wasting grind going to be then
>>737605051I dont miss needing elemental resistance, but what I do miss is using elemental attacks where possible to do bonus damage.
Will we get a reborn/evolved filter in pf?
Restore mode with HW or even SB job designs thank you
>>737605151You're a retard who thinks WHM is fine, so you'll hate it.Now die.
>>737597686
>>737604963now you're just pretending to be retarded (or are you?)shitrail reveal was even more lukewarm than stormblood reveal. Everyone only started getting hype after the S9 tease because of the kirito fantasy and simple novelty of seeing a modernshit cityscape in xiv which then got hated anyway after shitrail release
>>737604963No actually l, everyone at fanfest was dead silent when they showed that bad amano art. I even anons here commented on the crowds reaction.
>>737605151I personally think it's better than what we currently have because current system is so gutted and has no future.
>>737605151its an objective improvementPVPchads WONJob flavor is INPositionalkings are BACK2 minute trannies LOST
>>737605209white mage is fine. doesn't mean i don't think it needs to be pruned
>>737604512Nope, it's not. Your opinion is bad and wrong.
>>737605170I would assume so, though we'll probably only have to deal with it for an expansion before they just remove Reborn wholesale.
>>737605250No. Current WHM is fucking terrible.
KATE CYNWAR STATUS?
>>737605212tbf, there was nothing inhrerently wrong with what we knew about DT at the time. It's what we got that was the problem.
removing the 2 minute meta is great but it took them two expansions too long to do it, and job design needs a lot more work than just that. at least they can START working on it without having their hands tiedif they introduce an unlimited glamour catalog, then I might actually consider resubbing
>>737605271We'll see about that in 2 years when 90% of the playerbase leave again
>>737603647>>WHM can now use healing GCDs without losing damageTell me more. Or at least, where can I check it out? I missed the presentation.
>>737605090>you get all evolved actions in the free trialGod, I already forgot. Thank fucking god. I hated people who never unlocked any other raid besides CT for "efficiencies" sake>>737605151https://youtu.be/_aCGzxWczCM?t=23315You can still use the old playstyle for the 21 jobs until now. Future ones are going to be designed for the new system.
>>737597686I already have an ROG Ally so I cannot justify the Switch 2 purchase, especially since I have an "income" of about $500 USD per year so I literally cannot afford it.
The evolved mode for the jobs they showed actually looks promising.
watching the evolved mode dragoon do a sky high dive an AOE that gives damage down because at least he'll survive the damage
>>737605151The design philosophy is promising, might be cool but I need to get my hands on it to knowI was worried they'd completely remove positionals and now Dragoon has different positionals for each flank, crazy
>>737605321We don't need whiny raiders who have google doccies every week, they should go back to Aion or some other Kslop garbage
>>737604929>>737604934>>737604949https://www.youtube.com/live/_aCGzxWczCM?t=24954and later on>We did our best to make white mage even easier to use>>737604996No they specifically said easier TO USE, they repeat this sentence multiple fucking times, did you fuckers even watch the presentation or did you fucking fall asleep from how fucking boring the game now is?
>>73760532190% players will come from the Switch 2 then what?
>>737605328ty for the link
>>737605340Out of everything, the only thing that really concerned me is the MT/OT delineation but that's a solvable issue over time and reborn is there until then.
>>737605321switch 2 is probably gonna completely absorb the blow of discontinuing the PS4 in another expansion
>>737604654Without paying even more to the company you hate.
>>737605327casted GCD heals give pips for a new gauge that increases the damage of a new attack, maxed pips is slightly damage positivegood chance that overheals won't count for it but we'll see
>Lalafell onahole for display at fanfestDamn son.
>>737605373The amount of times they said they "wanted to make jobs easier" is concerning. They first said this in SB and it was the first instance of them homogenizing everything.
>>737604467>world prog/hardcore players are crashing out over 2 min being removedI haven't seen any posts of this happening, stop false flagging
>>737605375>>737605410Nintendies only play nitnendie games thoughbeit
>>737605410I keep telling people the game on Switch 2 is for Japs. They buy Switches at a 5:1 rate compared to Playstation.
>>737605410This is obvious to anyone who is not a tranny
>>737605470I'm just taking it as making it easier for turbotards to reach an acceptable dps floor while max damage will significantly involve all the new context sensitive actions + fights being designed around the new kits instead of 2min
>>737605487Nah, I'm going to play the fuck out of the FREE 100% GAME on July beta Pic related
>jobs have been same boring dogshit since 2019>finally get changed to something people said multiple times should happen (add EW PVP flavor to PVE)>now everyone is upset jobs are changing to what they asked for Wew lad
>>737605542>everyoneIt's just a few vocal retards. Most people think its a good thing
>>737605364All you're getting is lalafell avatafags, they are the riders of the apocalypse and only show up when the game is at its lowest
>>737604569The distinction is because the other tank also will have a shield and it doesn't make sense that the MT would be the guy with a 2 handed weapon instead of the ones with shields.
>>737605328alright, they gave me what i wanted with paladin, don't even need to see the rest. evolve me, yoship
>>737604963Dawntrail was bad from the getgo>erenville>stupid boat>tacoThe only ones who "liked" it were the perpetually subscribed limsa afkers
>>737605542Believe it or not, there are actually retards that like the current combat system. We sometimes call them "zoomers."
>>737605542>EveryoneI ve always hated nu-pvp, it was just pve but even simpler>b-but i can kill myself on drk KINO
since all gear now scales of your highest ilv pieces couldnt you just buy the cheapest shit with the right substats and have a permanent bis on any class without trying?
>>737605598I am a Krilefag and I thought it was finally gonna be her time. And then Dawntrail happened and I wanted to kill Kate and Hiroi. Thank fuck both appear to have been launched into the sun.
>>737605542They literally call it easy mode, what do you think?
>>737605635Yeah it was kino, DRK actually playing like DRK.
>>737605639i doubt that substats are going to continue working the way they do now. materia will undoubtedly change too
>>737605428Very weird. They're (GCD heals) so seldom used anyway, but I always appreciate more damage buttons, I guess. Ad long as whatever new things we grt are more interesting than the DT stuff.>Glarega!>Holyga!>fucking utterly worthless, nearly nonexistent buff from Medicara to MedicagaOnly Glareja coming from PoM was actually fun, the rest were just new animations with marginal potency increases.
>>737605542only fflogs trannies and shitposters who would have found some angle to spread negativity regardless of what was shown off
>>737605639Well no because best substats come from BiS. This is just a way for raiders to run something on an alt job without needing splits.
>WHMsissies mad they cant just glare spamzoz
>>737605487Is that why any multiplat with a simultaneous release on all platforms sell best on Switch?
No one is still playing xiv beside sunk cost stockholm syndromes>Umm even less buttons delicious praise yoshi
>>737600721>game is on every platform now>Nintendo is the only one that requires a separate sub>somehow it's Square's faultI hope Miyamoto sees this bro
>>737605598perpetually subscribed limsa afkers don't do msq, retardthey don't give a shit about the story and have no investment. they just glam or outright modbeast
>>737604834It's parsers gettin arngy that their numbers will reflect only their direct grasp of the fight and rotation(s), rather than being inflated by everyone buff-dumping at the two minute mark to boost each other.
>>737605728Name 1 game
>MMORPG>remove the RPG>Actually just remove the mmo too unless you are a healerSo this is the power of evolution...
>>737605658But the game is already super easy so I'd rather have fun with jobs than play something 0.5% more difficult at most. People act like we're still in HW and jobs have lots of depth as they are currently, it's quite funny.
>>737605728I'm expecting Pragmata to had done 100k or more on sales on the Switch 2 for the first month
>i lived long enough to watch people go "dumping buffs simultaneously...? sovl..."
Is the universal glam apply to any class thing in effect now? Theres a few plate gear pieces I wanted to use on my healer but I came back for 7.3 for a very short while and realized the game was dogshit still and unsubbed. But that is one feature that might motivate me to come back now before 7.5 drops or whatever
G R I MRIM
>>737605781Unicorn Overlord>inb4 goalposts moved to the moon
>>737605835Yes.
>tell ps4 players they should upgrade to ps5>announce switch versionwhy
>>737605542Braindead to braindead isn't a change.
>>737597686Lmao they are desperate for playersNo better way to lure tendies to buy the complete edition, play for 30 minutes and never touch it agan... "back to wahoo yipii, I guess"
>>737605893nintendobux
>>737605893I mean the ps5 is competing with the Switch 2 after all
>>737605824Actually having to play together is soulless, it's super soulful that in the massively multiplayer online role playing game I don't have to worry about what my teammates are doing at all! I sure love playing an "action" game with a 2.5 second gcd!
>>737605893Switch is the only console that maters and Squeenix needs money.
>>737605835the only exception is weaponsand even there, there are a handful of cross-glammable things
>>737605872Oh yeah that game they refused to release on PC, vanillaware are so fucking retarded
>>737605782XIV is and always has been at its worst in trying to actually be an MMORPG since it never cared to really invest from the start.
>>737605893Switch 2 has DLSS and its actually a really capable little thing
>>737605923>Actually having to play togetherJej.
>>737605923>buffs that automatically align themselves for you is "playing together"DRG making use of Sky High to absorb tankbusters is more party coordination than we've had since SB.
evolved mode + ilv rework seems good. they realized the rotations are too bloated for people to even want to try playing and learning any other class and so they had all this content just siting there and roting. now more will be encouraged to play other classes
>>737605893Switch 2 is more powerful than the PS4. Not by much, but it's there.
>>737605470shadowbringers was the great big homogenizationand you know what, it's not even jobs' fault, it's ninja's specifically. trick attack has dominated ALL meta since its introduction
>>737605943I hope Gaben sees this, bro.
>>737605923Man I always felt super coordinated and in touch with my teammates when we all dumped our buffs every two minutes with literally no feedback whasoever from the game instead of vaguely larger numbers flashing on the screen. Truly, it was a great moment of camraderie.
>>737605946Unironically this. The vast majority of players play 14 for the main story and they don't give a shit about the MMO part in the first place.
Just play an actual gacha instead of evershit, they are FREE
>>737605982They're making the game even more braindead for the shitch 2 so soulless japanese salary men can do their weeklies on the subway
>>737605984and it has DLSS which further makes it way more capable of running at 60fps in areas the PS4 wouldn't be able to. Not to mention frame generation which is perfect for an MMO since input latency isn't that big of a deal anyway and you rely on server for inputs anyway. Infact, its perfect.
>>737603484WoW just got done gutting all its classes and making it so you only do damage during cooldowns and hit like a wet noodle without themXIV is moving away from the 2m buff meta
>>737606025dont forget how if one person was even one second off then everyone else suffers for it
>>737606037begone gacha insect
Hope they show off more evolved modes at future fanfests. I really wanna see AST and MNK.
If a 2 minute buff timer where everyone runs a script like clockwork and the bosses relax to give everyone burst windows in an interpretive dance is what this game needs, then it shouldn't be a game anymore when that's become every major fight.
>>737603484When will yoshida piss stop copying wow??
>>737606063>WoW just got done gutting all its classes and making it so you only do damage during cooldowns and hit like a wet noodle without themNaaaah lol.
>>737604103auto combo plugin is not "minor QoL stuff"
>>737605984the bigger thing is gonna be the RAM, they keep mentioning PS4 runs into memory problems even with sony having engineers on standby specifically for FFXIVunironically for sony, losing anybody still playing FFXIV on a PS4 is gonna be like when monster hunter went to 3DS instead of vita after the PSP
>>737606083i hope for the love of all that is good that DRK has actual HP cost mechanics now even if its just replacing HP with shield, and now healers can also heal them up with GCDs to get their own boost. thats the kind of synergy we actually need
>>737606063Japan is always 5-10 years late to the west mistakes
>>737606083I want MNK to go HARD on positionals.Like Sinister/Dexter DRG on steroids.I miss it so much.
Since the new raid will be Eva, which angels are we likely to fight? And will we get sections where we use an Eva of our own to fight(or more likely v3 of the G-Warrior)?
>>737606063Can't believe wow turned all of its classes into xiv's warrior
>>737606083Hoping for DRK and SAM.>>737606098That's what people pretty much universally thought, felt and echoed. You had people who were neutral about jobs and people who hated them.Rarely did I see someone proclaim jobs in their current Dawntrail state are the ideal.But apparently now they are lol.Big old good new bad brain.
>>737606035True, If the MSQ is good and interesting I care about the world and doing more stuff in it.
Why does this image speak so much to FFXIV combat?
>It's another "pretend HW combat outside of sch and mnk had depth" episode
>>737606136They might actually be able to do this since they're set as an OT tank nowTake time to do giga damage when you're not working on mitting or doing tank stuff with your tank friend
when I hopped off that carriage I hoped for a job with cool pay on eorzea.now I'm getting dragged to phantasy star scandinavia because of mystery nigga shit I got dragged into once I hit level 10
>>737606083I'm hoping MCH stops being a hyperweave spam fest and actually focuses more on individual attacks worth a damn. I wanted the job for the guns and instead I got whatever the fuck you call it right now. And I use Clippy at 93ms ping and still hate this shit.
Why the fuck is japan so bad at making MMOs compared to korea anyway? The only good one was PSO2 and yet they killed it
>GW2 rotation>GW2 battle passWoW won, XiV is now directly competing for second place against Guild Wars
>>737606232sorry bwo your character is a pretty cool guy who's happy to be a hero even if he resents it when alphiturd tries to boss him around or when an ungrateful merchant thinks he's disposable muscle
>>737606248>PSO2>goodIt's an absolute insult to the original game
>>737606248>Why the fuck is japan so bad at making MMOs compared to korea anyway?what good mmos did korea make?
>>737606248almost every korean mmo out now is just barely hanging on
>>737606258I literally do not hear about GW2 outside of FFXIV threads
>>737606145There's enough angels for a full raid series, but I'm sure they'll throw in some twists here and there
All I wanted was some complexity back
>>737606258While WoW is apparently chasing XIV because it's now getting into 2m meta design itself.
>>737605598Culture warrior tools were obligated to like it because it's got a transgender voice actress and diversity(TM) dogshit and the wrong people hated it.I wouldn't be happy with a shitty voice actor (The nonbinary idiot in Dungeon Meshi's dub was offputting) but if the fundamentals were good I'd still love it. DT's fundamentals were anything but good.Ain't a doomer though this 8.0 shit looks great. Some concerns sure but I was plenty happy as a clam.
>>737606145Sachiel, Ramiel, Leliel, Zeruel are the most iconic and guaranteed.
>>737606279The one I keep hearing the most about is Maplestory and only because they're running an official classic server without any real modern compromises
>>737606312>While WoW is apparently chasing XIV what is this delusional fiction you believe? We already have the player numbers thanks to the Playerscape lmao. No game is chasing FFXIV.
>>737606295wellcongratulations
>>737606295Me too, I'm glad we're winning and balancetroons are melting.
>>737601435Means the crafter market is dead and by consequence the gatherer market is dead. This is the biggest economic crash since 2008.
>>737606335nah anon, he'll just see less buttons to press as baby mode easy insulting worst thing everyou take their rotation away and they can't think
>>737606332I don't know anything about the current state of WoW because I don't give a fuck, but he clearly meant from a design perspective and not from a playercount perspective.
This genuinely just ruined the whole evolved mode for me. As a warrior main being told I can only off tank in savage/ultimates is kind of bs and strips choice from the job. How are they going to say they want to give players move expression but then turn around and say you can only play this role if you play this job?If they want to go with this main/off tank role then they need to make it a toggle so you choose if you're main/off and it changes your actions accordingly.
>>737606332apparently it is
>>737606321More importantly Ramiel and Leliel can very easily use Ozma's rig.
>>737606262my wol is a happy cool guy hero and I'm his inner voice screaming inside his head to fuck all the cool women he meets that he seemingly ignores
>>737606335left and right positonals are zzz tier, i'll just true north them
>>737606402we don't even really know what the delineation truly means since paladin is still capable of slapping a fat fucking heal onto other people with clemency; it may well be holy sheltron is stronger than WAR/DRK/GNB's equivalent and that's about the end of it
>>737605857>actually matches with the leaked active playercount>>737606312>bro theyre totally chasing FFXIVkek
>>737606402they compare it to main healers and shield/barrier healers rather than just "oh the offtank is useless", you're more about party damage mitigation versus paladin being the shiteater for hits
>>737606402You have Reborn moveset for it.>If they want to go with this main/off tank role then they need to make it a toggle so you choose if you're main/off and it changes your actions accordingly.They probably will when they look at removing Reborn. It's an issue they ahve time to solve but implementation as is is okay.
>>737606441>no correlationyou failed to engage with the post
>>737606437>i'll just true north them
>>737604996they made it easier by FINALLY FUCKING DELETING CURE 1 THANK FUCK
why is this bad again?
>>737605893Switch 2 is slightly better than a PS4 Pro, so it should hold. I think the bigger problem might be storage space. Switch only has 500 GB, and uses microSD Express cards only, which are expensive.Also the real reason they are releasing on Switch 2 is that the PS5 is still not selling well in Japan, while the Switch 2 still is, so they are hoping that stranded PS4 players in Japan will move to Switch 2 instead
>>737606402>As a warrior main being told I can only off tank in savage/ultimates is kind of bs and strips choice from the job. How are they going to say they want to give players move expression but then turn around and say you can only play this role if you play this job?THIS IS FINAL FANTASY.CHANGE YOUR FUCKING JOB.>But I don't want to change my job!THEN YOU WILL BE SUBOPTIMAL AND YOU WILL FUCKING LIVE WITH ITNOOSETIMENOWBALANCETROON
>>737606441Doesn't that scrape alts and not actually real players proper
>Changing tanks to be like healersWas this really necessary?
>>737606441You do know how old that data point is since it came from Playerscope, right? Ah who am I kidding of course you know how old your data is.
>>737606487Because they're dumbing everything down for SHITCH 2
>>737606274Fuck you>>737606279Koreans make MMOs for their domestic market and make shitloads more money than japanese MMOs that try to go for global appeal. Western players usually don't have the autism to play these kinda games which is why Lost Ark had such a dramatic player count drop off as Amazon overhyped the game and most westerners noped out the moment they realized they got duped into playing a korean mmo>>737606276Maplestory and Dungeon Fighter are two of the worlds most successful IPs. As games they both showcase you can actually have fun and complex gameplay in an mmo instead of needing to dumb down everything
>>737606484youll still have retards playing reborn and spamming that shit anyway
>>737606523>AIIEE SHITCH 2 IS WHY THEYRE DUMBING THINGS DOWN>game thats been dumbing shit down for several expansions is only dumbing things down cause of a consoleL M A O
>>737606514the off-tank/main-tank delineation's existed unofficially for ages already, hell even in stormblood people were noticing paladin's kip was designed more around being the off-tank than the main one even though it was the fucking shield tank, generating gauge SUCKED as MT
>>737605639no because they said materia stats aren't counted
>>737606530No fuck YOU. Turning PSO into floaty garbage fucking sucked.
Mark my words you faggots praising the 2m meta being removed are going to be BEGGING for the shit to come back. Enjoy your new boring brain dead new job system.
>>737606164>FFXIV 8.0 Evolved Jobs.png
>>737603782watching this live and hearing the crowd go nuts over this really shows how bad the community is anymore
>>737606514Somewhat.It lead to a lot of redundancy between both that was only alleviated with tank swaps to actually use their CDs. Also made them all just reskins essentially. Now they have design space to not do that.
>>737606402Not a fan of being told that after six years of being a main tank almost exclusively, actually I was an off tank the whole time.
>>737606554SHITCH 2 and LIMSA TROONSThese creatures will be in your raids and dungeons "playing" from a fucking SHITCH 2 running this shit at 20 fps
going to rape yoship for teasing BLU for rebornthere is genuinely no reason BLU and BST can't get reborn modes
>>737606578They were cheering for the switch 2 announcement anon
>>737606487it isnt but we gotta pretend cause shitstirring jeets always find something to bitch about
>>737606523But the game was made for snoys in the first place since the start
>>737606554and they're getting rid of the main reason things were dumbing down!they're getting rid of jobs NEEDING to be performant in a specific time window!i don't know why people don't fucking see it when that is staring people in the face with shit like red mage's ranged swordplay changes or giving gunbreaker more to do in its burst window!
>>737606603sex with that emo lalaboy
>>737606606Because they were never real jobs in the first place
>>737606597If you identify as a main tank you can crack your egg and reborn yourself. :)
>>737606636You're a retarded fag, no wonder that you like the SHITCH 2
>>737606636hot topic lala girl...
>>737606651who the fuck is talking about a farm you retard?
>>737606631>i don't know why people don't fucking see ityou are not dealing with good faith posters, anon
>>737606610no you retard they went nuts when they showed 1 button combos like the retarded apes they are
>Retarded leftist commie's song is still in the game>Yoshida never addressed that he wants more than half of his playerbase to be killedEVERYTHING TROONS.TIE THE NOOSE LETS GOTIE THE NOOSE LETS GOEVERYTHING TROONS.
>>737597686>Pay for your ISP>On top of that you have to pay for Nintendos membership>ON TOP OF THAT you have to pay for Squeenix membership>On hardware comparable to the 360Are people this retarded?
>>737606425Watch it turn out Ozma is an inferior attempt to copy them.
>>737606636thats a girl. unless they gave male lalas the extra earrings and femlala ears
>>737606676nah I saw it , it was the s2 announcement
>>737606574The only issue with 2m was it's too short between windows and 60s windows felt terrible for those that had them.The 3m one they had before it was fine because of the smaller but still significant windows inbetween that added variance.I'll happily take none.
>>737606686>On top of that you have to pay for Nintendos membershipyou don't actuallyfree trial just werks, game just werks
>>737606606Blue Mage is quite literally just forming your own movelist with explicit limitations keeping it from becoming a clusterfuck, and Beastmaster is some basic shit, capture, and controlling monster attacks like Pokemon. They don't need Reborn or Evolved Mode because they effectively are a wholly separate action set of logic.
>>73760614524 man, so you'd need 24 different evas unless it's a 'siphon one person off' sort of deal or have everyone get their own eva in their own little side scene.
>>737601474Why would it? PC and Steam aren't even compatible and that's technically the same platform
>>737606713genuinely kill yourself
>>737603782>>737606578The crowd cheering for this is blackpilling.....
>>737606686No need for a nintendo online sub btw
>>737603782yet you all don't complain about an action game putting your basic combo on one buttoncurious
>>737606735are you okay?
>>737606686>hardware comparable to the 360Why do you retards just say dumb shit like this all the fucking time
So samefagging jeets and their "muh holy 300IQ 2m meta job rotations" LARP aside, what are you hoping to see next FanFest?
>nooo theyre not doing 1 button combos thats only for PvPLMAO they need to recoup those player numbers and get back over 500k
I wonder if auto attacks will trigger the Sheltron counter.
>>737606773It's like xiv is not an action game or something
Making BRD defensive and giving DRG an actual dragoon jump are some of the changes that I really wantedBut please, please oh please tell me BRD is more than just >song -> literal set and forget DoTs -> song -> 1-2-3 -> song -> 1-2-cast time -> big finishNot like I've touched it since ShB, but it used to be my absolute favoriteI appreciate the concept of giving songs different effects, but in practice I don't see why you wouldn't just keep them on rotation instead of the song changing your rotation but otherwise being permanent and something you pick based on fight timeline
>>737606790moar artifact armors and some more evolved job show-offs
>>737606802it is now
>>737606787Probably because they can't afford the actual console (the Switch 2)
>>737606685>anon still doesn't get that XIV is left coded after dawntrail where wol takes out the 50th fascist faggot and institutes the 510th people's republic in a fucking rowy'shtola's cunt would dry out the second she finds a portal to the real world
>>737606790Same as >>737606823 but also more interesting character creation customization options.
Oh I just realized the customization of animations can mean changing Summons too for SMN. Neat.
>>737606749>>737606716Well thank fuck for that.>>737606787Took you niggers a decade to implement voice chat. So yes, 360 +2
>>737606790unlimited glamour catalog is a 100% mandatory requirement for me to ever consider resubbing
>>737606790I just want the new tank job to be cool
>Reborn is the current version (shit)>Evolved is even less evolved (shittier)Kojima tier
>>737606807The damage from the moves unlocked by the songs themselves are going to be equalised and it's literally pick the approriate song every 20s it takes to gain a stack and spam the rest.
What did he mean by this?Does he seriously think BLU deserves no respect?
>>737606893He's not wrong.
>>737606848Goldbert kicking you to death so you don't have to 41% yourself retarded tranny
>>737606790I want to save hairstyles to glam plates.
>>737606893that was funny as hell and could be an ebin new meme
>>737606892Okay that's good then, but what about radiant finale? Don't you need to build it up?
>>737606807it depends on whether you're expected to keep rotating between songs as soon as you can to continue attacking at full efficiency, or if you can stick to using the same song, assuming it serves you well enough in that situation.i.e. it depends on if it's going to be SMN 2.0 or not.
Bit concerned it's all being done by one guy but apparently he did the pvp kits too so who knows maybe they'll all be flavorful. Whm seems kinda lackluster which is the biggest concern
>>737606917the guy who bends over backwards to give his workers fair contracts, holds no bias against any race, and help ala mhigans escape debt-slavery in ul'dah, and whose argument to nanamo was that turning ala mhigo into a debt-slave through handouts was a bad idea?that's the guy you want to use as a heckin based and redpilled example
>>737606917rightard can't even spell correctly lmao
>>737606975No that's Godbert. Goldbert is the evil kike version.
>>737606869They can.Even better if we actually get some new primals to begin with.Then you can change a whole set.With less restricted job design and more freedom for gimmicks, we can get something to do with Leviathan or Shiva or whatever.
>>737607005dios mio... godbert's evil twin...
>>737606975>and whose argument to nanamo was that turning ala mhigo into a debt-slave through handouts was a bad idea?That's not at all what he said but I know reality is a non-issue for you.
>>737606848>>anon still doesn't get that XIV is left codedIt's fitting since XIV is just a fantasy
HOLY SHIT, if I had known they were going to make such an explosive announcment about the alliance raid series I would have stayed up late for it
>>737607070top dollar for a /shinji emote
>>737606848Old XIV is right wing, nu-xiv is left wing.
>>737607027You'd have to be a retard to think enormous floods of gibs to Ala Mhigo wouldn't make them financially dependent on Ul'dah and thereafter makes them ripe for abuse by Ul'dah, which is debt slavery and is Godbert's argument by your own pictureIt is not Godbert's WHOLE argument, but it IS his argument"Denial of reality" is a piss-poor buzzword from /pol/ crossposters that may or may not be Russian agents and are fixated on selling you their version of reality
>>737607070>it's 3 more raid tiers wasted on crossoverslop
>>737607005>there's a reflection where GODbert is evil corporate overlordchilling
>>737607070I can't find the live thread, did it get deleted?
>>737607112>You'd have to be a retard to think enormous floods of gibs to Ala Mhigo wouldn't make them financially dependent on Ul'dahIt would, correct. That is the actual issue at hand, that handouts make people reliant on them.>and thereafter makes them ripe for abuse by Ul'dah, which is debt slaveryNo, that's not what debt slavery is. Collecting handouts from the government is not even close to debt slavery and I can't fathom the amount of mental gymnastics you had to do to even think this argument made sense.
>>737607117Considering how trash Myths of the Realm was I'd rather just get cool crossover spectacle at this point
>>737607145Its the 7 shard and he's the Shinra president.
>>737607117the nier raids are on average the best fights in the 24 man series. and imho, the dwarf sections of the questlines make it the best story of the 24 mans as wellmaybe my perception is colored that i'm big into draken-nier but yeah
>>737607117Technically all of your alliance raids besides Myths of the Realm are crossovers. They've just been insular for Square til now.
>>737607153Something tells me you defend landlords on Facebook.
>>737606965Oh, it might do. I just double checked the dev UI and it had markers for each one used.I'd hope they change that to just a basic Performance count instead of each song.But then we run into:>this one's easiest or more useful more often, I'll just do that one.Still, they're at least short enough that you're rolling through them regularly I guess?
>>737607117There might be an argument to be made that crossover alliance raids should only be a single raid but considering yoshi went out of his way to brag that it was indeed 3 part I don't think that argument is going to be listened to
>>737607178>>737607182It was fine for one part.But then it kept on going.And going.And then you just got so many of the same designs.
>>737607202Sky Pirates exists.
>>737607203When you have to invent things that weren't said, consider that maybe you're just full of shit.
>>737607221The sky pirates are the only good part of their own alliance raid, all the Mhach stuff is visually cool but sucks dick in practice.
>>737607203>W-WELL YOU'RE A BIG POOPOO HEAD AND I BET YOU EAT POOPCompelling argument here from the resident leftoid, he's got that college education working hard for him.
>>737607207I'll chalk it up to being not finished and radiant finale will have some other activation methodBut the songs also just giving three GCDs and then back to whatever the generic heavy shot spam combo is kinda sucksEven if they were permanent loops of those unique GCD combos though, it's still pretty boring overall and I hope there's more to it...
>>737607229I'm not hearing a noooooooo..............
>>737607248You didn't say good raids, you said non-crossover raids.
>>737607221I remembered Void Ark only after I posted that but honestly the culmination in a summon from VIII as the final boss made me throw that under the bus.
>>737607181>it's a 7 expansion episode>diamond weapon expy is about to reach the midgar expy>instead of setting the cannon towards it they sic shadow godbert who bursts out of his suit and piledrives the giant monster (he's wearing briefs instead of boxers)
>>737604654>not using TextAdvancengmi
>>737607248Weeping City was the single best 24 man tier ever released when it was current. A shame gear made it so you could just faceroll it.
>>737607229>>737607293
>>737607248Mhach and dun scaith were super cool thoughDiabolos Hollow being super difficult (for a 24 man) but also killing himself was funNeeding people to hit the hands for you in scathach felt like an MMOUpper/Lower split for the spider boss, zombies for the second boss, and ozma in general were also all pretty coolWay more interesting than just the modern dodge fests
>>737607286They need to give DoT proc BRD back in its full glory with minuet cast times (but PVP duration) really.Leaky bowmage, best bowmage.
>>737607293sorry homie not you i meant >>737607279
>>737607369>>737607202>Technically all of your alliance raids besides Myths of the Realm are crossovers
>>737607397Bowmage is fine if it's like PVP where you can move at a reduced speed while casting. Makes it feel like you're drawing back a bowstring.
>>737607369>wojakignored
>>737597686Is the new expansion actually going to solve player retention issues though? I don't really see a lot of new endgame activities, which is easily the largest weak point of XIV. WoW has a lot of stuff to do at endgame by comparison.
>737606975Oh shit wait is this actually Kate? hurry up and flip those patties instead of wasting your time trying to astroturf XIV
>>737607369Next time you want to lie, don't do it about a scene half the people in these threads have a screenshot of.
>>737607498>has to turn to the audience for help
>>737605542It's almost like the second group is a few shitposting faggots who don't even play the game. You'll notice a distinct lack of detail if you ask them why they like the current set up and will scream about "skill level" instead.
The only wings I'm into is Wingstop.
>>737607498Anon, you missed my remark >>737607318 to bitch about someone else. There's more than one person posting you know.
>>737607584>not garuda's wingsmore for me
>>737607601Bro got a boner and ran headlong into a wall when he smelled somebody willing to argue with him
They just stacked actions and gave them context inputs (Shield Bash to Shield Lob depending on range, Clemency or Holy Spirit for ally or foe respectively). Like, you're still pressing the same number of buttons besides specific actions stacking effects together, you're just pressing different buttons.
Now that XIV is dead, what do we play now?
>>737607612can you even fuck a primaldo they even have working goods down therei feel like if some group managed to summon a primal about impregnation and pregnancy they could incapacitate or worse a bunch of scions and their guest star party members right out of the bat because they're women I mean if the wol regularly gets hypnotized and paralyzed and whatever shit by them mid fight then this means that the primal does have a lot of power over them so instant impregnating the scion girls into a instant defeat scenario is realistic in the setting.
>>737607820marvel rivals blood hunt
>>737606603Holy shit, does this mean my hair finally gets to be the right color without having to use a plugin?
>>737607843Yes, actual RGB color pickers or so they phrased it.
>>737597686>JANNIES will finally stop deleting the threadsLMAO
So is this beta test thing for the S2 something anyone can do or is it just a new account thing?For that matter, would I have to resub for it?
>>737607831It's sort of a hard question to answer because all the powers are aether-based and all evaporate pretty fast after going off since they aren't emanating from physical aether(and frankly we never got a satisfactory explanation on how corporeal vs non-corporeal even differed, energy is energy). Like how much real, lasting influence do any of them have over their domain that isn't momentary particle effects?
>>737607887Good. Took them long enough to expose something that was already in the code since 2.0.
>>737607940it'll probably be like the cloud server beta test which anybody could do, but it was purely with temporary characters
>>737597686This is going to be big in Japan and/or any people that will play 14 on only Switch 2
>>737608102Ah, makes sense. Might still try it though.
>low blow and interject merged togetheri don't see how this would be a problem with someone, having a physical stun and a magic pause on top of paladin already having a brief physical stun as 3 separate buttons is just silly
>>737600441Pretty sure switch 2 is more powerful than ps4 although I think it's close, but the big issue isn't power, it's storage space, Switch 2 can physically hold the game while ps4 can'tI reckon they could let you squeeze more life out of ps4 by letting you uninstall old cutscenes (or more to the point probably the cutscene audio is the main issue) and wait until you reach an expansion to install that expansions cutscenes while you delete past ones though
>>737608014the only thing we know about primal influencing physically is that they work like aether magnets, pulling all aether towards their aspect. the Eden raid shows that they can be used to make improvised aether converters, but that's it. we don't even know how primal soul works. Garuda is clearly aware she gets resummoned so she has to be somewhere whenever she isn't a primal, which means that they can be fully destroyed somehow and that the thing we usually fight is most likely some Domain Expansion abstract shitshow instead of an actual physical being
>>737604064Ah, maybe it took so long because they were trying to get Nintendo to budge on the seperate sub
>>737608204Shit's going to suck for Deep Dungeon and Exploration content
>>737606183>it's another "I'm a shadowbab but let me tell how things were in HW" episode
>>737608374>it's another "epic oldfag has a name for whippersnappers" episode
>>737608351i have limited knowledge outside of PT, but there's no mob in PT that you would need to interrupt that isn't also stunnable
>>737608460It's a silence one, stun another problem.
>>737607940It will be the full game and your character carries over, probably on July of thisbyear.
>>737606636>>737606664>>737606709I love emo whores so much bros
So crafting/gathering is over? There's no point to it now if you can just get one gearset and pretend to have the rest?
>>737608809crafted will still be useful. you just won't get people buying multiple sets.jack your prices up
>>737608809>>737608846Glamour still exists too.I guess materia will be tied to job stones now, and that's the shit that'll REALLY tank.
