How do I git gud at shmups?I feel like I'm just panic dodging all the time but when I see good gameplay it's like the player is controlling the flow instead.Do you focus more on the enemies' patterns or more on your ship?Also the wiki is down, I randomly saw the "angels"(?) enemies appear in stage 1, what is the trigger exactly?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT3z4k1BlDg
tell us more about how the touhou bullies made you cry
>>737599865You literally can control the flow with movement if enemies are aiming bullets at you, + good target prioritization in games where killing enemies cancels all their bullets
play rotmg
>>737600058
>>737599865The gameplay you showed is very simple. Would you be able to play like that/is that your gameplay?I got decent at shmups by starting with easy games. I'd recommend Touhou 8 and Blue Wish Resurrection Plus, which can both be gotten easily for free and are solid beginner games.>>737600058You're quite gay
>>737600273The last time I played that I think Lost Halls was the hardest dungeon.
Her game is really fun and it runs in a web browser.https://buster-ermy.itch.io/xiraI'm grinding a 1cc and it seems doable.
>>737600058Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GA7k6Ebyc
>>737600339Every genre I've ever gotten good at has been through repeatedly challenging myself. I don't think looking for easy games is going to benefit any one. Of course, there's a difference between "challenging" and "impossible" but cho ren sha is definitely not an impossible task and it's weird that you would discourage someone from playing it.
>>737600649appropriate song title for these threadslet's make that the shmup general's theme
>>737599865>I randomly saw the "angels"(?) enemies appear in stage 1, what is the trigger exactly?simply if you kill the enemies that proecede them quickly enough they'll have time to spawn. this means you've anticipated those enemies' spawn and pointblanked them, which is a good indicator that you are indeed the one in control and that level of aggresiveness is pretty much how you should play the rest of the game. you're already on a good path, enjoy this good fucking game.
>>737599865>Do you focus more on the enemies' patterns or more on your ship?When you play a shmup you want to focus on openings and lanes. Additionally, think about how aimed shots work. If you make a tiny tap are you safe? Does part of a pattern aim at your sides, so you shouldnt move in this situation? That sort of thing. You want to reduce the amount of on the spot thinking you have to do, which will increase the amount of time you feel in control.
Why did that Dangun Feveron thread get deleted
>>737600058Kek
>>737600852should add to this, be careful with those angels enemies and the grenades they start laying when damaged, because those give lots of points so you'll want to not immediately kill them, but might drown you if you get too greedy.
>no troonhutroons avatarfaggoting and posting tranimeslopi'll now use your shmup thread
>>737600973Because it was a video game discussion on /v/.
>>737600973Too much gameplay discussion.
>>737601097
>>737600339That's my gameplay, stage 2 boss after a few tries, I think you can see the dodges are sloppy, I easily get trapped by the blue lines. Haven't made it past stage 4 yet. First 2 stages I can manage then it becomes hard for me. But I'll keep trying. I was told this was an accessible one. Nothing against Touhou, just don't care for the aesthetic.>>737600852Thanks so they're just extra for scoring? Just trying to focus on survival for now. Any other hidden mechanic or useful trick?
Just let the janitors handle it. We're clearly not allowed to discuss shmups until touhou is sent back to /jp/.
>>737599865Always be moving and bombing (ABMAB.) Only time you should not move is when you are cornered and have to wait out a stream to not get hit.
>>737600973It's a shame it died. It was fun trying out the game, even if I could barely get halfway through stage 2 before it died.
>>737601345Uh what, this is insanely bad advice
>>737599865Copy a replay and save the time and effort so you can grind your gacha more.
i need to buy more shmoops...
>>737601083I made that thread and didn't even get warned so idk>>737601349Glad you enjoyed playing it
>shmups were popular back when CRTs were used>CRTs display motion 1000 times clearer than any modern displaysno wonder i find these games fucking impossible
>>737601741Shmups were never popular.
>>737600656You might have a mental disability. I'm suggesting that you start from an easy point because of your self-declared lack of ability. I think you might want to start from an easy point and work up. If you think you can do better, that's fine, but don't waste my time with requests for beginner tips.
>>737601389Showacase a JP SHMUP that's not a fan game where this is not verifiable advice.
>>737601816anon you're replying to me wasn't (me)
>>737601816It's the real avatartranny you're replying to. Ignore them.
>>737601960I don't know who you are though! You could be anyone. I guess that's the mentally ill person who's been spamming about how anyone who doesn't play lunatic isn't a gamer or whatever?
>>737601285>extra for scoring? Just trying to focus on survivalyes, it's just a bonus for points, but keep in mind a 1up will replace the shield from the next item pickup if you're already shielded for every 1 million points you accumulate. accumulating lives to make your end of stage bonuses bigger is a big source of score, so there's this relationship in which better survival snowballs into more score and more lives. tl;dr yeah just focus on survival, you're already accumulating points if you stay safe>Any other hidden mechanic or useful trick?you may have already seen some webms where you can finish off the first boss with their own shots, and then bomb while they're blowing up for extra score. if you can sneak into the center of an item drop triangle and stay inside you can collect all three items, but it's dangerous. collecting an item gives you a few i-frames, indicated by your ship flashing purple.
>entire genre is infested with anime fags that worship low effort games with giant floating anime girl pngs just because they require you to have turboautism to clear them
>>737602165b-but it's fun (it's not)
>>737602165You literally have an entire catalogue of shmups from the 80s-late 90s to enjoy
>>737601115>>737601147I noticed there's a distinction between the gameplay discussion between Touhou and arcadefags. Touhoufags usually ask about specific points in the game, while arcadefags feel more like general advice and vague descriptions about game mechanics. Like they watched a top 10 tips to git gud at shmups video and a game review on YouTube.
>>737602165i blame CAVE
>>737602446shmupniggers larp and don't play the game genius
>>737602142Thanks anon, already got one of them to blow up the other, but getting both is tricky. Wasting a bomb while they're already blowing up never would have occurred to me, I'll have to try.
>2hutroons mad they can't ERP and post troonsloptop kekepow
>>737602446It's because Touhou games are more casual
>>737599865Tap dodging helps a lot because usually you only need a slight movement to not get shot. At a certain point a game becomes memorizing a series of inputs, but way before that you just keep playing it and any trouble spots you just keep trying different things until one works.
>>737602565is it a coincidence the touhou thread you were in got deleted right when this thread was made? maybe the jannies are telling us something.
>>737602682Heh. Maybe. All of you are very on edge so I won't stir the pot more.
>>737600382shatters got a rework and it's real hardvery bullet helly, way harder than lost halls
>>737602446Arcade titles have much harder stages and lots of little things to memorize. Tohu is more manageable but has long crazy boss fights with names so you can ask about exactly what is messing you up and people will know by the spell.
>>737602682There's a thread up right now. What's this mentally ill battle between the two communities?
>>737602446Because touhoufags can't talk about gameplay in their own threads, so they ask their questions in STG threads.Also a lot of newbies start with toohoo.
>can't copy anymore, have to actually play the gamesit's over
>>737602916I'd assume if those games are that much harder, there'd be more people asking questions in general.
>>737602958idk, the troonhus are the ones coming here to sperg out
>>737603029Imagine thinking your wiki would survive if you didn't pander to coomers for porn money lmao
>>737600058I was in that thread LOL
>>737603038All of these games were solved 10-30 years ago. The answers are there it's a question of finding them. But it's easier to learn if you know why someone is doing a route rather than just copying blindly. It's hard finding consistent shmup playthroughs with some kind of CC or description.
>>737600058>the schizo larping as an innocent 2hufag then samefagging exactly a minute laterlol
>>737601027This shit was so funny lol genuine woman speech>>737600273I used to, never again doe
>>737601823kek, they couldn't refute.>If shot at: move even if its to move back to same spot to dodge shots. Else: Stay in place if you would get hit.>If you are going to get hit? Bomb. Else: memorize the damn patterns.
>>737602889It looks cool, and long. One run is almost a full length shmup.
>>737603241Don't forget the schizo was replying to any post that was mildly triggering them with CP.
>>737604445Sounds like an average stand against hate/sharty loser meltie.
>>737602446You just gently tap dodge underneath the ship and it dies. Also you can point blank and bomb through the entire first phase, which is totally fine since you get 50 billion bombs in this game. I don't know what you want me to say man. Gunna go back to working on sengoku now.
>>737604721this looks like you remembered all the phases and almost fucked up 6 seconds in lmfao
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/XqpkZB-nAZHUNYLw3dDqag/
>>737604785What phases?
>>737604653Hi sharty.
>>737604870I don't use sharty what are you on about thoughbeit? Those people are nutjobs and kikes always trying to ruin a thread on 4chan. If in doubt: blame Sharty.
>>737604969>thoughbeithi sharty
>>737604969Hi sharty.
>>737604969Hi sharty
>>737605056>>737605076>>737605102Using bots and spamming lmao. There's literally one person (using a pc and phone) behind these posts.
>>737605171hi sharty
>>737605171You have developed unchecked schizophrenia and need meds immediately
>>737605171Surely 3 posts within a minute could be made on a PC and phone. Sharty isn't sending their best.
>>737604969Shartniggers don't spam cp, 4channers do :)
>>737605207Phones don't get detected as the same person thoughbeit so your post is invalid.>>737605215Only facts get this much pushback from 4chan notoriously raided by sharties like yourself turbopedokike lol. Airbase should draft all of you niggers to war by force so you can die for Israel in Iran.
>>737605294>geopolitics out of nowherehi sharty
>>737605274>noo its not a recorded fact that Sharty and Stand Against Hate use CP spam to get shit taken down/to hack into people's PCs. Weak argument.
It's a touhou faggot having a mental breakdown. They've been doing it for weeks.
>>737605294Hi sharty.
>>737605345does sharty not pay you enough?
>>737605391The reason the other thread got deleted is because they started sending spoilered messages about discord wank. It's obviously 1 extremely asshurt touhou retard.
>>737605357Imagine doing it for free for Sharty. All of you are buck broken pedos.
>>737605437Hi sharty.
>>737605430Only sharties use Discord, nobody that's not a new/summerfag from 4chan uses that cancer. Especially after the face ID requirement and surveillance implications.
>>737605430so no. would 60 cents per week cover your needs?
>>737605480Sharties are literally using bots with 4chan pass to spam their inane shit on 4chans using some bot-farms to do it for them. kek.
>>737605476How new are you? The whole reason touhou threads get deleted repeatedly is because of theyre a weird discord clique full of mentally ill gaslighting retards. This has been going on for ages.
>>737605480Yes!
>>737605525hi new sharty>>737605541send me your resume and i'll see what i can do
A new low for the once proud shmup threads
Interesting how the sharty deniers know this much about what they're using and what they do.
>>737601816>You might have a mental disabilityBoy I really can't stand people who pretend to be nice but wind up being rotten to the core. It's like a snake wearing human skin.
>>737605578Sent. My credentials are I dropped out of 8th grade to shitpost all day.
>>737605665I know right? Its as if these sharties are programmed to never reveal their connections, here's a thing a Shartie will never answer: What made you, prove you are human.
>>737605725you're hiredfirst task: kill yourself fag
>>737605739...My parents?
>>737605784Done! :)
mental illness the genre the thread
>>737605860You need certain level of autism to enjoy the grind thoughbeit.
>>737604445the reply to that cave post made it too obvious lmao
>>737606358ARE THOSE???
>>737606358Deez nuts
Most based Batrider team?
>>737607814Meira
>>737607874balls
>>737601808Wrong, Space Invaders and Galaga were huge.
>>737607814Car-Pet, Car-Pet and Car-Pet
toe hoe
tewhew
sex with yukari
reimu armpit
just let it die instead of necrobumping
>>737606358Can she fit it in
>>737609071shut the fuck up chapjeet nigger
>>737609071Dilate shartytranny
>>737609114>>737609150uh oh it's dilating hour on the troonhu discord
>>737609208You should tell the Plaza discord to fuck off.
new to shemupes, which one should i play?
vanilla alice or yuri cocoa?
>>737609373dodonpachi
>>737609373gta 6
>>737609412yuri alice
>>737609546shut up marisa
trans here, recommend me a shmup
>>737609641gunbird 3
>>737609641doodoopoo
>>737609641touhou 100
>>737609301invite??
>>737609856sent
this part has filtered me for years. i cannot reliably reach the TLB stage past this point at least with minogame
>>737599865>STGsAh yes, ShooTingGamesUp there with PFMs:PlatFormErs
There's an off-spoke about type of game that is as rare as it is precious. It is referred to in whispered tones of reverence and gleeful shouts of exuberance. Two powerful words find it status and its meaning. The one, the one game that starts your path towards a specific genre for a particular type of game. It may not be the first game you ever play in that genre, but it's the one that made you fall in love with that genre. Esperade is the one schmup which kindled the fires of passion and inflamed my burning love for shooters. Like many genres, I'm not particularly good at shumps, or as they're called, shooters, or shoot them ups, or most recently, STGs. My knowledge of them pales to YouTubers like Electronic Underground or Smup Junkie.
>>737601741Also CRT's have zero input lag.Input lag makes any game harder. Even a single frame is enough to fuck you up.
>>737610071it's up there with my favorite game ikaragua
Thread needs more Hina
>>737610218SPINSPINSPINSPINSPINSPIN
>>737610263pins pins pins
>>737610294Penis
Did they fix the Ray'z Collection on steam so it isn't crackling audio?
>>737610316>>737606358
>>737610350Looks like white Yukari hugging a giant penis
>>737610329idk i don't play garbage
who is more neurotic shmup-lifers or competitive dead by daylight players
>>737610523ned flanders scarlet
>>737610523Dead by daylight players. Both maybe autistic but shmups require extreme autism to get good at. Dead by daylight autists are just normal enough to be obnoxious
>>737610625mark? like from invincible?
>>737610329Yes
>>737599865be intentional with your movements. don't move around wildly just to move. it's usually if not always better just to move the least amount of distance necessary to avoid danger by just quickly tapping the arrow keys/stick. I guess that's obvious, but when I knew nothing making that change helped a lot.
>>737610523shmuppers are mostly just quirky random, but not toxic. dbd players are insufferable turbo narcissists.
>>737610561frandle scarlet
>>737611102>shmuppers are mostly just quirky random, but not toxicBiggest lie ITT. This is the worst and most mentally ill "community" on /v/.
>>737611283>anime avatarfaggotry
is shmup wiki dead i was planning on playing espgaluda....
>>737611682Yes you didn't play enough psikyo games so plasmo shut it down
>>737611682Protip for Espgaluda: Get to know which enemies to use kakusei mode to kill for massive bullet cancel ingots, versus which enemies to kill normally who don't fill the screen and are more worthwhile to get gems. Stage 3 is scoring heaven.
>>737611283fake avatarnigger always spits facts
>>737611840
how does playing a shmup not leave you feeling like your time was wasted?
>>737611883if you play shmups you're autistic and your life was already a waste
>>737611883My time isn't important
I *will not* play your vertical shooter unless I can fly a carrot.
>>737611883Because actually climbing to the top of Mount Stupid and being able to say "I get this game," then continuing to get better and better with routing, scoring, and most importantly, not choking. (that last bit is easier said than done)
>>737611913Why couldn't I be autistic with CS:GO or League? At least I'd be rich.
>>737611883ironically it's among the most time efficient genres out there.
>>737612046uber shitty genes, loser
>>737602446because touhou balance is whack and the stages are usually nowhere near the absurdity of some of the spellcardsyou can post that one ms paint render of clownpiece's ribbon laser spellcard and it'll give someone ptsd
>>737611986i guess, but you need to pick your battles. i suppose i'm concerned?? that (you) settled before considering the opportunity cost. i mean this is something that weighs over me when i dive into something that demands a little more dedication
>>737611883Is an activity that teaches discipline and refinement useless? It is the budo of video games. To 1cc is to become the samurai, a cultivation of the spirit.
>>737612136Funny because it's the complete opposite in FW.
>>737612163go build a house instead
>>737612108i did ask that question without even considering shit like MOBA.
>>737612214I already did that, I used to flip houses when I was younger. I'm quite handy.
>>737612260I used to fuck your mom when I was younger, she was quite handy too.
>>737612325based.
What is your guys>favorite shmup/bullet hell>favorite shot type (ala forward focus, homing, aimed)>last 1cc>currently playing>favorite song from a shmup/bullet hell>long stages or long boss fights?>lilnear stages or stage routes?>ideal number of stages?
>>737612136Even then Touhou has coined terms for some difficult stage sections. Books, s6 spam, racetrack, minefield, meteor shower, Jimbo etc.
I’m playing R type hd boosted on. Switch. It’s fun but are the “issues” fixed? I never played original on psx just curious
>>737612428Meira
>>737612479BALLS
>>737609373just browse ones that have a style you like. Off the bat I'd recommend Deathsmiles, crimzon clover, and mushihimesama. these are rather forgiving/have multiple difficulties so progress is more apparent and you aren't immediately overwhelmed.
>>737612428>crimzon clover>spread>zero ranger>more zero ranger>necrofantasia>long bosses>linear>5-6>>737612453the fucking rain in lolk is one of those too
>>737612474>It’s fun but are the “issues” fixedNo
>favorite shmup/bullet hellEspgaluda>favorite shot type (ala forward focus, homing, aimed)Homing lasers>last 1ccMushihimesama Futari novice ultra, first ever attempt, only lost two lives>currently playingMushi Futari and Robo Aleste>favorite song from a shmup/bullet hell"Last Boss" from Psyvariar 2>long stages or long boss fights?Combination of both.>lilnear stages or stage routes?Combo of both.>ideal number of stages?6-8.
>>737612428>Ketsui>anything with proximity damage>Strikers 1945 II>Sengoku ace>https://youtu.be/A2ZoG_rBjBs>Gunbird 2 Stage 6 boss>DOJ carts>7
>>737599865Speaking of wikis, I wonder what's the best resource for Dezaemon 2. Have seen guys doing pretty fancy things with the tool, and while I do understand how you can combine enemy movement and firing patterns, it feels like I might be missing some fancier tricks that are not immediately obvious in the editor.>>737612428>favorite shmup/bullet hellHard to say. Arguably Twinkle Star Sprites by now, previously Daifukkatsu.>favorite shot type (ala forward focus, homing, aimed)Tend to prefer fast ships with forward focus. Slow+wide would be the second option, and homing is usually the last one because to an extent I like to not make the shooting part of the game completely automatic.>last 1ccRead above. If that doesn't count, then it's a non-shmup arcade game. And if that still doesn't count, then it's Batrider Advanced Course>currently playingPic rel, if you can call it "playing". I mean, I did play the sample games so there's that. Daioh P! is the one I like the most even if Biometal Gust is probably the one that you might want to run.>favorite song from a shmup/bullet hellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDd3P7o9CW0I really don't like fighting this boss tho.>long stages or long boss fights?Prefer stage design over throwing everything into the boss fight. One of the biggest reason for why I could never get into Touhou.>lilnear stages or stage routes?They are both fine, though I generally play linear ones.>ideal number of stages?Entirely depends on game duration, ideally I would want the total playtime of a single run to not go above 30 mins, and in those 30 mins I'd argue the ideal range is 5-10 stages.
bomba
bomba x 2
Still no Futari port for Switch or even Steamwtf is wrong with M2???
>>737612428>favorite shmup/bullet hellBattle Garegga (inclusing the hacks 1945P2 and LSZ)>favorite shot type (ala forward focus, homing, aimed)Linear most of the time, I guess (DDP A-L, DOJ A-EX, Gensuke, Wild Snail, Gain, Panzer Jager, Type E, Aine, Marisa...). Bonus point if it has piercing.>last 1ccBattle Garegga - casual 1cc before bed as usual>currently playingBattle Garegga and ONLY Garegga>favorite song from a shmup/bullet hellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q01VRTyO5Yk>long stages or long boss fights?Depends. I don't mind earlier stages being shorter. For bosses, I think you should be able to do both. Garegga allows you to quick kill most bosses within seconds, but you can milk them until they timeout. Garegga milking is satisfying, but Guwange milking is honestly pure cancer. DOJ also kinda allows you to quick kill bosses if you use hyper, but it can be risky sometimes.>lilnear stages or stage routes?Linear.>ideal number of stages?5 for 2-ALL. 6~7 if game doesn't have 2nd loop.
>>737600649Oh hohohohoh!
>>737618998isn't the reason why M2 don't release games on PC (unless they're working with a publisher like Konami or Taito who specifically order a PC port) is because they're such perfectionists about things like input latency/timing and they can't get that consistent across different PC setups?
>>737623704..or at least that's what I've heard? I could be completely wrong
>vertical>DanmakuYou have my attention.
what the hell is wrong with Darius Twin?also, I never see you guys talk about Reflex
Arcade Gunbird has 7 stages and 2 loops fuck this shit
>5 on 2 off>6 on 4 offit doesn't seem to make any difference what I do to the HZ? Looking for smooth autofire cause I can't spend all day spamming keys.
>>737600636I'm not a good player but my first playthrough was fun. died double minigun looking guy
Don't mind me, I just want to let you know Yakouga 6 is finally easy to get on the Internet Archivehttps://archive.org/details/yakouga6
>>737600636>bomb turns bullets into coins>but extends don't come from scoring, so unless you want to score run you are still better off using them for survival>"A special thanks to Aktane for his videos"Absolute dogshit.
>>737628305>no m**k video thats how I know it's not worth (pretend) playing
>>737609019what does it smell like
>>737625941The game is less than 25 minutes long dude.
>>737629402Marisa ejaculate
>>737626597Huh? That's only in mushi. Just do 1 to 1.
>>737629616ah. just like last night
>>737610071The M2 port is a godsend. I wish they just did every Cave game, but this was a great pick.
>>737599865>How do I git gud at shmups?You have to keep playing them. On PS5, the top Ketsui players have hundreds of hours on Ketsui and on Gradius 3. It's really a matter of playing thesr games over and over again.
>>737599865These graphics are sick ngl.
>>737629616>>737630018
>>737610097I'm getting comfortable with shmups on my PS5. So if I play with FPGA on a CRT would it be equal to Amura Ray from Char's Counterattack using the Psychoframe and mogging everyone in the battlefield?
>>737630737An M2 port has like 16ms of lag, which is pretty much what it feels like to play with someone in the same state as you in an online game.
>>737629616Marisa cannot ejaculate she does not have a penis.
>>737631270she stole the precious thing from alice
>>737631270>He doesn't know that vaginas squirtObviously there was an armpit scissoring situation of some sort.
>>737631398Squirting isn't real anon, that's just piss.
>>737631512turbo virgin alert
Shmups? Wrong thread for this.
>>737631563What thread do you think you're in
>>737631629The past 6 hours we've had>page 10 necrobumps>graphics good for monkey brain>"what settings do I use">2hujerkRiveting discussion you were having.
>>737631981Let it die if gameplay discussion bothers you so much. You people are annoying.
>>737632032What gameplay discussion? Controls and settings aren't playing the game.
I'm sure you would have another frantic sperg out and start blogposting about drinking piss or whatever regardless of what anyone posted. Anything to not discuss a video game. No one wants a thread where it's 100 posts of you acting like a retarded 12 year old between actual attempts at discussion.
>>737631512LET ME KILL YOU IN POFV BITCH
>>737632342Is someone projecting again? Go on, talk about music and graphics and nostalgia for 200 posts again. Anything but playing the game itself.
>>737632032The point is talking about Marisa cumming is not gameplay discussion.
>>737618998CAVE just got their licensing back from komodo so who knows what they'll do now. Depends on how this DFK re-release shakes out, maybe they'll actually try.
Should I just make another thread?
>>737631671The video game thread.
>>737599865Depends on the nature of the game. A good chunk of them are just pattern recognition and good positioning first and foremost, with reflexes being secondary (though that's not to be confused with saying it isn't a factor). You should be doing your best to put yourself in a position where you are not dodging bullets. If you're weaving the bullets and it isn't the case that the game rewards grazing and isn't a super-dense pattern, the you are not positioning yourself right.
>>737632518These are turning into pokemon threads, except pokefags know how to emulate their games
>>737632802pokenigs get (bad) new content and remakes, we get rereleases of oldslop none of us emulated for more than 5 minutes regardless.
>>737632672troonhutroontroons will just shit up that one tooyou should go on a troonhutroontrannytroon genocide
>>737632518when did you start anonymizing the filenamesor is that another pretender i cant keep up with the deep avatarfag lore
>>737634829>spam more sharty cp>act like little bros demanding 1ccs and scores and approval like they ever think about you
>>737599865Did anyone else let the shower run over their head and imagine the water streams running down your hair to be shmup bullet patterns? Am I autistic?
>>737635009You are so quirky!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kGxcBdXYs
>>737635134mof stage 4 is peak
Okay no more thread then
>>737635306How do we fix the threads
>>737635306Thanks, now go kill yourself.Love, Plaza
>>737635306>>737635376>one minute apart
>>737635376Arcade STG only unfortunately
>>737635376Samefag harder.
>>737635398why don't you take your meds?
>>737635398It always goes back to Discord.
>>737599865Learn to look through the bullets, instead of looking at them. Your peripheral vision is the most important tool you have..
>>737635134I meant seeing the streams running down your hair from your pov as a your own bullet spread, not dodging the bullets from the shower head. I can see touhou has buckbroken this thread so I am leaving.
>>737636173Kek, not graze efficient but nice flex
>>737636173junko's tears...
>>737636018It's pretty obviously not plaza
>>737636729Ok, you'd know best.
Rohga: Armor Force aka Wolf FangThank me later
>>737637468like wolf from starfox? sounds really gay
Tranny general
>>737637598Otaku culture has nothing to do with trannies pre-2016.
The more i play arcade stgs the more i am drawn back to touhou.
>>737630741based
>>737640279It always goes back to Touhou.
>>737641442it all returns to touhouit just keeps holding shift down, holding shift down, holding shift down
ahhhh made it to stage 6 boss by wasting my extends and spamming bombs like a shitternot so bad, I feel like I can do it, stage 3 was the biggest filter to overcome I thinkfun game
have your coworker ever caught you playing touhou before?
>>737643767>she
>>737643767>KYAAAAAA!! *drops bento*
You lost.
>>737642587no one cares shitter
>>737642587i care pisser
>>737642587Nobody cares
>>737642587everyone cares
>>737642587fuck off
>>737642587Fuck on
>>737631512She should punish me
>>737645256Not video games.
>>737645498She's not that flat
>>737644876>>737644926>>737645056>>737645083>>737645087>>737645146It's obvious what it is and its obvious whos doing it, and I'd rather have more shmup threads to deal with you guys. You've tried being nice multiple times, too many has this put a smile on my face. In fact the reason I picked up shmups is because you guys are so nice and friendly.
>>737642587i asked
>>737642587Didn't ask
>>737599865Those extra enemies in stage 1 spawn if you kill the big niggas quickly enough, iirc.And part of getting good is just familiarity with the levels so you know where to be and when.
>>737647035didn't ask
Mods?
>>737631981You have no idea how happy it makes me to see someone else ruining the threads you've attached yourself to like a tumor. Die you narcissistic faggot.
>>737647035I asked.
>>737647542No I didn't
Since we're not allowed to have discussion here:>>737647553
I'm sorry but unless mods are going to sit here and remove shitposters, touhou and these threads cannot coexist.
>>737648527Nah, the root problem here is you. I recommend jumping off a bridge.
>>737648652Who am I?
>>737648705someone who should jump off a bridge
what game?
>>737648830adofai
>>737645982>I'd rather have more shmup threadsI'd rather not if they're all made by the onimai faggot.
>>737648830Mario Party
>>737647597Get fucked.
>>737649118Huh? I just remade it, it's still up.
>>737648830cirno's math class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb4jIKuhDZsWhy can't Jaimers get a real LNN? Is Touhou that difficult?
>>737649603He actually doesn't like touhou, as the description suggests. He just ran out of games to play.
>>737649603yephis pcb lnn was really gay too and he still can't do s6 fw lnn
It's been 2 years since jaimers has uploaded a game I'm interested in.
>>737649160Keep trying, nigger.
>>737650142Touhou 19 was okay I guess. Had really funny moments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlK5OpxpUno
>>737649603lets be honest, jaimers could be the best if he REALLY wanted to
>>737650371Touhou is just too far from arcade games. It is to shmups what halo is to fps. I have zero interest in this stuff lol
>>737650554Yeah, you actually have to read the bullets. Really tough stuff.
>>737600649Don't know about bullies but this game bullied me out of STGsVery beautiful tho
>>737601741>he doesn't know
reminder
>>737649603Jaimers doesn't actually care much for 2hu. But at the same he's basically played nearly every other notable shump so he's got nothing leftIt's filler content. More or less
seihou better
I played Sonic Wings Reunion since it's on sale... I 1ALL'd it with MaoMao and again with Glenda (who now plays like Silver from Sonic Wings 2). It's not great to be honest. Enemies never feel like they are getting hit, they don't blow up when you use the time stop bomb, so you just shoot them impotently, and you actually have to use joy2key to set up a faster autofire rate because the enemies are too tanky for the game's default autofire. I dunno about this one bros, it was obvious it sucked but still.
>>737651260>half his videos>most of his viewsHe's a Touhou channel
>>737651346didn't ask
>>737651359Cus touhou brings the views. But he doesn't care for it in the end.
>>737651359he's a shmup channel (shmups are touhou)
>>737651346I asked
>>737650605>Yeah, you actually have to read the bulletsThat's the problem though, you kinda don't... it's largely whats directly around you, very rarely will you get your shit slapped from full screen unless it's some 10 second long telegraphed laser. It's kinda gay...
>>737612428>ShmupEinhander>Bullet HellBlue Revolver>favorite shot typeHoming/Aimed in oldschool STG, Forward in manic>last 1ccSektori, Thunderforce V>favorite songI can't answer that one, there's too many good ones. >long stages or long boss fights?YES>linearUh, 5 or 6? I don't believe a shmup can be too long honestly.
>>737651346Just play strikers, it's like a direct sequel to the good sonic wings games
I want to get back into Touhou. I've kinda stopped playing years back and want to give it another shot. I've done hard mode 1cc's in 6-7-8, MoF, and Ten Desires. Which ones should I try out again? I remember quite liking SA but I found it a bit too difficult
Is there a 4chan general for shmups on /vg/ or /vr? Looking for like a pack of shmup roms
>>737651562Touhou tanks in quality at around 14, you're pretty much done.
I wish I could delete my Touhou past. I can't believe I ever liked something that trannies love.
>>73765162715*
>>737651627I'm put off 14 for the stage 5 and 6 gimmicks lol XD Save reflected screens and enlarged hitboxes for the camera games, I don't want to deal with that in normal gameplay.
>>737651724I played touhou like 15 years ago. There is no way I'd ever go back to those games. I don't care if they're popular among normalfags who limp through the games on normal.
>>737651724I know that feel but remember trannies loves water and oxygen too (sadly)
>>737651724????
>>737612180That’s encouraging. I’ve been chipping away at Ketsui for a year and a half and the farthest I’ve ever gotten is the stage 4 mid boss
>>737651613There was one but it's incomprehensive. I just selectively pull stuff from this.https://archive.org/details/mame-0.260-roms-non-merged
>>737651550I have and psikyo games are decent enough but the strikers games are a little too dry for me, I think you might have to be autistic and Spanish to play (larp) them
Touhou's aesthetic is more my kind of thing. I like the cute lolita style characters and the magic settings over planes and jets and space stuff. The fanbase isn't as obnoxiously trans infested as others I've dealt with and the ones you don't want to handle won't even play the games so win win.
>>737651989Nah I beat II the other day. If you want wacky shit try 1999. Since jaimers is being discussed, might as well mention this is actually one of his favorite games.https://youtu.be/Dt8_UOBMtxQ
>>737652063>The fanbase isn't as obnoxiously trans infestedBruh what, it's literally THE crossdressing IP
>>737651970thanks fren
>>737651724i did what normal people do and just jerked off to the girls
>>737652063>The fanbase isn't as obnoxiously trans infested
>>737652063>I like the cute lolita style characters and the magic settings over planes and jets and space stuff.so gay. Not everything needs to be about little girls all the time
I don't get it.The franchise is primarily Japanese.You can simply ignore all the cancer coming from the Western side.I do this with every retard-filled franchise I enjoy. I just ignore them. It sucks I can talk about it with 3-4 people counted online but whatever.
>>7376521621999 is good, and the only one I've 1ALL'd. Though just with the scrub ship like everyone else. 2 is 2hard, so I don't play it much.
>>737652063im starting to think the only one i like is 6.
On the topic of Jaimers' run I think Mystic Square is a nice game. I don't think any Touhou really holds a candle to something like Dodonpachi in terms of how fun it is to go through the stages but there's a few notable standouts. Mystic Square is not one of them, but bosses are great there. I've always had a soft spot for the game. You sit back and listen to some undeniably good retro tunes and then you get fucked by Yumeko. The Extra is also very, very fun. I think the most overrated Touhou game is actually Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom and people give Double Dealing Character too much shit for just a few attacks that are mostly not that bad except You Grow Bigger that's just horribly designed if you aren't Reimu. WBaWC was sick, FW (the newest game) had some semblance of actual stage design and it was a really fun game definitely one of my favorites.
>>737652824>2 is 2hardIt's not bad with focke.https://youtu.be/VgvGIbLV-KUYou can do similiar stuff with pancake's stage 3 power since it has i-frames, which is like the secret ship in 1999.
What's the Metal Slug of SHMUPs in terms of peak pixel art, art direction, and craziness?
Why do so many shmuppers appear to be pedophiles? It makes no sense to me
>>737653401boku no pico
>>737653401Cho Aniki
>>737653076I tend to hate Two Hoo games and wish I was just playing Dodonpachi. Great Fairy Wars is the one I just like.
>>737653401Easy answer is In the Hunt, but to take the less obvious route, something like Boogie Wings or Great Mahou Daisakusen/Dimahoo.
>>7376528476 is good. Most of the series gets really wacky somehow whether it's the graphics, plot, character designs, bullet patterns, or added mechanics. EoSD is satisfyingly straightforward
>>737653650Great Fairy Wars is genuinely a top tier 2hu. It hardly feels like a game designed by ZUN yet it is. There's bullet cancels, the resource system is different from the usual, and the final boss has destructible parts in the form of the three fairies themselves, it's a pretty hard fight too requiring all the resources you've got, preferably used in smart places to get even more resources. There's only three stages and you can maximize gains the whole time. Very good Extra that's long enough to be nearly the length of the game itself. Definitely better than the games it's in between, those being UFO and Ten Desires.
>>737653516it sucks how no community is normal these days.Like shmups? you're among pedos. Like fitness and health? you're among vegan retards and cucks. Like slightly gay anime? you're among troons and epstein himself.
>>737653516>he doesn't know
>>737653401Maybe not the bestest but both Mushihimesama are pretty beautiful
>>737653906>slightly gayWhy are homos so uppity these days, you suck dicks dude
>>737654032not that kind of gay, the gay that's not gay-kind.
>>737642587What shader? looking good
>>737653842and the music. 7 takes too long to get started. 6 hits you right out of the gate and every boss transition is perfect.
>>737654104>it was only the tip!!!
>>737651524>einhanderhttps://youtu.be/CLiS2mcD2Yg
>>737654154guest advanced
>>737653865Yeah, it's way better designed than any other Touhou game I've touched. The ice power mechanics are fun and the stages themselves are all above average.
>>737654104
>>737654310I know about it, it's cool but it's almost too similar in a way. Some of the trailer is literally just a demake of einhander.Still playing it when it releases
>>737599865Experience and the grace of God. Play a shmup every day until you get good.Pictured is only like 30-40 minutes long on a successful run. >t. like 7-10 years in. I lost track of time.
>>737654771>10 years>80 hourswhat lol
>>737654835>what lolI play a list of shmups- probably like 20 total>30 minutes a play>once/twice a month per game>90h * 60 = 5400 min>5400 min/40 min = 135 sessions>135 sessions = 135 months = 11.25 years Assume less, because of months with multiple sessions.
>>737655158>once/twice a month per gameWhat????
>>737655336>What????I have a full-time job. I'm not going to play every game ever day. But I want to play every game every month. I have like 20+ games to fit in
>>737654771>black packageanon???????????
>>737655589>I have a full-time jobSo do I lol
>>737655628>>black package>anon???????????Fuck Remedy. Completely too difficult for any difficulty aside from an Ultra.
>>737654771>no longer available on steamwhy are shmups like this
Why does every touhou player post make like the most cursed posts ever
>>737655687>So do I lolSo, how exactly do you play multiple sessions of this many games, unless it's all you do?>>737655718It's terrible, but you can acquire it elsewhere. It's really an amazing one. My personal fav.
>>737655939>So, how exactly do you play multiple sessions of this many gamesPlay one game retard
>>737655989>Play one game retardHow boring. Then you lose your edge on the ones you don't play.
>>737631512>Implying that doesn't make it better
That explains the "I have been playing this game for 20 years and never got the clear" posts
how?
>>737656037Holy shit bro, this is like the dumbest shit I have ever read in my entire life
>>737656187Work? What work?
>>737656254>Holy shit bro, this is like the dumbest shit I have ever read in my entire lifeYou sound like a guy who has a harem of 30 girls and says, "I only fuck one of them for a period of time, "rather than enjoying all of them.
Touhou is one of the hardest shmups out there, try 11 on Lunatic to get your eyes used to the chaos.
>>737599865Don't, emulate or play steam ports that went on sale for 2 dollars, set them to easy and/or coin spam, enjoy the art and the music for about 40 minutes until you hit the ending, and have a great time. And then next time you play if you really want to spice it up, try to do it with one less life than you did last time.Congratulations, you just had more fun than any 1cc autist ever did with the genre.
>>737656673Coin spam is not fun
>>737656673Above guy who plays a bunch of shmups, a lot on Lunatic or Very hard, or whatever. I play to get good, but I agree with you as well. As long as you have fun, great. Some people find art and music fun. Others want mastery. It's just different levels/types of enjoyment.
What's the latest development catchphrase /ourmork/ has come up with?
ZUN is not bringing his best.
>>737656850>Lunatic or Very hard, or whateverWow :|
>>737656476>when you have to play a shmup on its hardest setting to get any sort of challenge
Reminder that Mork>is a master of all 3D action games>has mastered every single 2D arcade game on the highest difficulty>is a professional master of third strike, virtua fighter and tekken, he'd attend Evo and win instantly but due to his brutal schedule he can't make it>is a genius game designer who was making the new standard in shmups but sadly lost the code
>>737657050he's downbad recycling forced v memes nowhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%22safe%20retro%22/order/asc/
I have never seen a mork schizo post that was shmup related
PURENITAKUKINO
what did he mean by this?
>critics HATED god hand when it came out A single outlet that's always been considered a joke hated it, everyone else gave it good scored>i know it's a good game because uhhhhh see my video even though i didn't finish it or play on hard mode
>>737658658>i can know everything about a game in the first hourWhat did he mean by this?
Mark is just that stereotypical dude that pretends to like>snk>sega>team ninjaNo one likes these companies, this flavor of autism doesn't even have anything to do with shmups. He's probably just a closeted furry. Oh and the only anime he's seen in Akira and Robotech.I know like a thousand of these stereo typical "cool energy drink uncles". The second someone says they like snk or sega you know they have severe brain damage. It can't be helped.
>>737656407>plaps you
>>737658848Wrong thread.
>>737658827He never used to be a giant poser, he used to genuinely play and enjoy shmups, but at some point, he decided he was some gaming guru and knew everything about every action game everReminder he doesn't have an MN NG2 run despite it being his favourite game
>>737658904There is not a single intelligent person who likes action games. He's just playing to his audience. Like your "dead or alive is the best fighting game ever" types. These are all easily exploitable retards.
>>737658793Well, go ahead and watch LordBBH. Dude just casually 1cc arcade games on first try. It can be beat em up, run n' gun, shmup... He's simply THAT good. No practice, no copymonkey, just basic fundamentals that carry over from game to game. He probably already have over 1000 arcade 1ccs at this point, which mogs every shmup player.
>>737658827you only play 2hu and watch anime with little girls?
>>737659298Psh, that's nothing Mork can understand and clear games without even touching them
My favorite touhou game is IN. What is yours anon?
>>737659373For me it's UFO
>>737659298>Dude just casually 1cc arcade games on first tryWhat the fuck are you talking abouthttps://youtu.be/sFuymR7ltrsHe said this took him 3 months of practice and 7 years to build up to it. It took me 1 month. He is a good player, but everyone who gets clears works for them.
Lunatic is kind of a meme, but Hard does not provide a good enough challenge in most Touhou games. Hard is intended to be a nice experience for arcade players, but with modern tools you can learn games quicker, so you may have more skill than the average guy who put quarters into arcades back in the day who had to keep restarting to practice a section. Lunatic is categorized as a glorified shitpost but I don't know if it really is. Extra stages are designed for the players who have done a Hard 1CC most of the time and the other times are Saki and Okina who felt Normal in difficulty. It's food for thought I guess.
For rail shooter fans, Asura the Striker just got a huge and really cool update recently.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2389830/__ASURA_THE_STRIKER/
>>737659373Every game after IN was a complete downgrade its not even funny.>multiple shot types (team and solo)>different routes (stage 4s and stage 6s)>dark backgrounds, which makes it easier to see bullets>larger deathbomb window at the cost of two bombs>time orb/bullet cancel system>last words>mokou>the OST>you fight fucking reimu and marisa
>>737660036This game is so good
>>737659559
>>737660181It's not funny
>>737659373IN for these reasons >>737660097 but also because of Wriggle and Mystia and really the entire cast, the patterns look nice too which is important for Touhou, it was ZUN's magnum opus. That feels a little too typical so for runner-ups I like Fairy Wars, Mystic Square and Subterranean Animism.
What game surprised you? For me it's Bari-arm. The OST is particularly good.
>>737660950Muchi Muchi Pork I guess. Not considered a particularly high game but a nice time on 1.01 though I am aware that calling any Cave game underrated is a little silly. I think it's just not so clear cut because not everyone is going to emulate the 360 release over raw MAME goodness, but MAME does not have the version that made simple yet effective changes, or the arrange music. Even now there's content exclusive to the input lag 360 version of DOJ like a kickass soundtrack and a gimmicky bonus character.
>NEVER EVER>Not even a ROM hack is allowed to exist for unknown reasons>PCB allegedly has protection against dumpingSo what's it gonna be, huh?
>>737660036I wish there were more shmups with complex routes like this
>>737661768Ask trap15 to make a 1:1 hack of this.
>>737660097In some ways it feels like it was supposed to be the last Touhou. There's a threat so huge it takes a tag team of end bosses from previous games working together and you still can't reach the true ending until you uncover the darker alternate final stage.But as far as level/boss design and mechanics go I think it's kinda forgettable. The only attack that really stuck with me is being on the receiving end of Master Spark, which feels exactly how it should
>>737659373>>737660097>>737660559Is it a "basic bitch" choice to have IN as your favorite game?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2WQjqKpVM
>>737661768CAVE was asking on twitter if anyone had the pcb. So idk lol, whenever they get one I'm sure we'll get it soon after. But is blue label even good?https://youtu.be/rv1JK2Ezk9UIdk I only ever did a really shitty 1-all of ddp forever ago and never played it again so i dont even know what im looking at.
Why are we even talking about Touhous here?Don't they have dedicated threads on /v/, AND a whole board for themselves?
>>737662439Because this is the shump thread, poser-kun.
>>737662439Because a retarded mod decided we need to babysit them for whatever reason. As if mods even understand the difference between touhou and real shmups.
>>737662217Blue Label is basically DDP but harder and with a hyper that turns you invincible or something like that. Different chaining too I think? Basically DOJ mechanics before DOJ, and inside of DDP. That to me sounds like a really fun thing to try. I take it the reason the recreation hack can't be finished is because the dev got contacted by CAVE/M2/exA for some important message, which was specifically stated NOT to be a C&D, so if they want to do a Dodonpachi rerelease it's pretty likely they also want to get this mode public, or they'll just use the hack you never know. I'm pretty sure they have a plan.
The way to get good at shmups is put another quarter in the machine after every death to continue at place of death. Repeat until out of money.
>>737662439Like I said before, we should move shmups threads to /vr/. Yeah, It's slower, but at least we can have a more meaningful discussion with no big shitposting outbursts.
>>737662710The /vr/ janny had a meltdown over those threads, not happening. There's already a touhou general over there, as well as 2 other boards, all dying and in desperate need of attention. They can go there.
>>737662626Okay, I looked into it some more, it seems they have the PCB but want to contact the guy who originally won and can't find him. Also, it's almost definitely for exA which would be unfortunate to say the least.
>>737662710It's actually better when you don't have one of these for a few days. Like morrowind used to be before jannies allowed TR eternal status (for now)
>>737662963>Also, it's almost definitely for exA which would be unfortunate to say the leastWhat? Where did you find that info
>>737663032exa has hinted at Dodonpachi a few times, with a bee, and apparently (I haven't seen this myself) a blue one too that was posted to Shitter. Pretty obvious implications.
>>737661861To be fair each row is just the same level but they change the visuals from ice to fire etc.It's still good anyway because it's one of the devs that actually bothered to have not just unique CGs when you beat the game each route BUT also unique CGs for hard mode clears.>>737663032They had a stream like a year ago where they announced tons of new games coming in 2026, the last announcement was an image of a blue bee...
>>737663203>They had a stream like a year ago where they announced tons of new games coming in 2026, the last announcement was an image of a blue bee...Well I don't know about you but an exa kit is a pretty steep ask, those are crazy expensive.
>>737663458Yeah I really hope the hack is able to be released anyway because there's no way I am ever playing the mode otherwise.
>>737663458Yeah I would never get one, maybe if I had a better job. At the very least I can afford to go to Japan once in a while so I can play a little bit of those games, otherwise there are nearly no arcades in my country besides like 1 that still has HoTD2 and few other sega cabs.
>>737663553This is actually fucking nuts.https://exa.ac/product/asuka-120-burning-fest-exallent-complete-limited-edition/?v=0f177369a3b7https://youtu.be/z_9pMgdPTGUI remember this game, how can this possibly exist
The mystical fixed SDOJ that nobody can play even though there was a port of standard SDOJ not too long ago that could've added these fixes even without the arcade exclusive arrange...
>>737663203Yep, the bee is blue.
>>737664372The real way to beat sdoj is to keep coming up with excuses to not play it.
Does anyone get eye strain from shmups? These games used to hurt my eyes like nothing else. It's ultimately what led to me finding out I needed glasses... in my mid 30s.
>>737659365Who?
>>737658904/ourguy/ cleared MN NG2.
>>737664372The Exa Arcadia version, or just a version that only "exists" in people's imagination?
>>737667746Both. The former is what exists, but since nobody can easily play it, it becomes the latter.
Today I played 3 shoot 'em ups I had on Steam:>Sonic Wings ReunionUnfortunately it's a super low-budget game made by people who don't seem to really understand the genre. The graphics look really cheap, it's like a mix of a mobile game, a Flash game, and a Windows 3.1 game. It's an affront to the artistic quality of classic games.I almost 1CC'd on Normal on my first run. I died on the monkey that I think is the final boss. This is unacceptable for a game that isn't entirely focused on scoring.It's a really weak game, and its only redeeming feature is that at least it has a fast pace.>R-Type DeltaIt's cool. I used to play it on the PSX ages ago. The modern Steam version is pretty good.>G-Darius HDIt's OK, too. The Steam port is really well done, with several different versions of the game, lots of options, etc. I was surprised by the quality of the port.
>>737658904>Reminder he doesn't have an MN NG2 run despite it being his favourite gameI'm pretty sure his favorite game is shmups. And unfortunately, there aren't many sloptubers who have like openly made a better tier list of shmups than him. Like it or not, it's not like the guy has super shit taste in shmups.
>>737667998>I was surprised by the quality of the port.M2 ports are like the rolls royce of shmups. Give their other stuff a look.
>>737599865After playing for a bit you start to memorize patterns and find "positional guidelines", tactics if you will, that grant you the best balance of defensive and offensive play. How fast you can figure it out depends on the complexity of the fight and your general intelligence as a person.
>>737599865Play the demo of Rainchaser. I never played shmups before but I have good performance in that game
I wish old games like raiden werent so punishing, you basically only have one life, lose it and you dont stand a chance with your underpowered ship
Thoughts on this recent bomba record?https://youtu.be/I6C6nxcyDewKind of a shame this doesn't have a newer port.
>>737671268>recent*recently uploaded
>>737670713Why raiden specifically
>>737671268I'll assume this isn't half as good if a japanese WR level player picked the game. I barely see any japanese played interested on it, let alone doing scoring runs. Maybe most japanese arcade didn't bother with Pink Sweet PCBs when it released or the good RNG grinding is a massive let go. I watched a few Aqy and gray3geemagedon streams and the boss milking RNG (random attack rotation) can really fuck up your score pretty bad if the boss decide not to do what you want. It's basically Madball all over again, except all bosses are like this.
>>737670713Are you playing the set 2 version of raiden
>>737670345Bro is taking his sweet time finishing the game. >>737667998Even a relative disappointment like Sonic Wings Special has more to offer a fan.G-Darius is great though. I love laser duels with bosses; maybe it's DBZ brainrot but it is kino every time.
Why do these games even have an option for player 2? Maybe it's you guys who have been doing it wrong this whole time.
explain why euroshmups are hated.i want more numbers in my shooters, taking the score i earn for clearing levels and using it to upgrade my ship and weapons
>>737672637Jokes on you, I do play coop shmups from time to time on Fightcade. Hard to find non-credit feeders and good connection, but it still enjoyable.
>>737672975just play armored core then
>>737672975It's mainly that they're boring. Boring patterns, boring stages, enemies that you don't have to engage, low difficulty due to upgrades and life bars that allow for 10 hits per stage etc.Also inertia that has no place in a genre that revolves around precise movement.
>>737673161i want to play shmups though
>>737672975They simply do not have good fundamental gameplay
Sneed
>>737676158Smork
>>737676158Sneed?
>>737674236it's a plane on a 2D plane, what's so fundamentally different
>>737599865>How do I git gud at shmups?You look slighty above your ship.
hell yea nigga GRADIUS III
What are the best horis?
>>737679706
>>737679889>woman on the right
Do you play with controller or keeb?
>>737679889It's ok Junis, shmuppers prefer smaller hitboxes.
>>737680561Arcade stick, anything else is inferior
>>737680561Shitty "US GAMERS AMIRITE" mechanical kbd and stick (bat top) at my local game center. I do have a gamesir controller, but I mostly use it for MonHun and Soulslike.
>missed the fun threadnig
>>737603029qrd?
>>737682498https://shmups.wiki/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgihttps://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1596197#p1596197
>>737682798Also useful.https://web.archive.org/web/20260201000000*/https://shmups.wikihttps://web.archive.org/web/20260101103023/https://shmups.wiki/library/Main_PageMost of the links are working fine, just not up to date.
>>737680561I don't see the point of sticks, a very fast responsive clicky dpad is better.or analog stick for the few games that actually support it well, like gunvein
I love how despite so many members of the shmup community being legitimate pedophiles they're all so vocally against Deathsmiles or Touhou or anything that's actually a safe outlet for lolita content.
>>737684275Analogue sticks are probably the only control scheme I'd actually say is bad. Dpads, arcade sticks, hitbox and keyboard are exponentially better and more responsive.
Is Sine Mora actually good or is it really slop? I can't tell where the memes end and the facts begin
>>737685480https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d76YdrGawE
>>737686586Not made in nippon land, not a good shmup by default.
How long does it take you learn to 1cc a game
>>737612453None of those ring a bell.t. barely engaged with the community
>>737685480for the overwhelming majority of shmups yeah of course it's terrible garbage, but when it's properly supported nothing beats the analog stick, you can move your ship down to the pixel in Gunvein. Same for Thunderforce V which support the saturn's 3D pad. I'm trying to find more shmups with proper analog support because it's so fun when done right.Normally in Thunderforce V you have several ship speeds to choose from and have buttons to change it in an attempt to either have speed but lower dodge precision or the opposite, but with the analog stick you simply have the full range of speed available to you anytime and you can just lightly move the stick if you need precision.
>>737686873depends on your grasps of your fundamentals of the genre, aka the reason why (you) might take years to beat a new shmup meanwhile the genre's gigapros might take the same entirely new game and beat it in a few hours, because they understand all the techniques that allows them to control their enemies to avoid getting walled, how to find gaps in patterns, they know how to tap-dodge, they understand the difference between aimed shots and random shots and how to deal with them, etc etc
>>737666420Eye and hand strain, yeah, even with glasses and better lighting. I have to take a break after a couple hours otherwise I'll start getting headaches and my finger muscles up to the elbow will start aching in a weird way. Age sucks.
>>737686620>awesome games done quickaren't they troons who said shmups sucks and they'll only allow one or 2 of them during their child grooming funding round streams?
>>73768687340 years
>>737686873uhhh arcade game or like touhou on normal?
>half the thread is questions from curious anons who only 'know of' the genreexplain to me why secondaries are bad again
>>737686873It really does depend on skill and experience in different games as skill really does transfer to other games after a bit of learning, but where some might take a month to 1cc Mushihimesama, it might take another guy a week to get a Daioujou Black Label 1-All. Some take a hot minute to clear Touhou on Normal, but nowadays I can clear them in one attempt. The common claim is that a decently hard shmup (so Daioujou Black Label) will take a guy around 30 hours of practice, but I'm pretty sure you can cut those hours down by thinking smarter and looking up routes or additional places to bomb without issue. Seriously, a noob trap is the idea that bombs are these super rare resources you need to save for the final boss. In many games they're not quite as rare as that, but some go Exy in Daioujou and get very few, while others go A-Shotia and get a nice amount of them. If one were to play it after clearing Dodonpachi I would recommend that shot specifically since it would let them keep at least a bit of the same bomb habits.TL;DR with tools and proper analysis you can learn a game quicker than you think.
>>737599865Now I want to play Raiden II or G-Darius again. Does a VampS clone exist for something like either of these yet?
