>>737601505
Fixed dragons being OP and has plenty of cute monsters.

>>737601637
Dragons were never OP, they were only strong against other dragons.

I only ever played gen 1. Do psychics have a counter now?

>>737602025
Bottom of the barrel typing now.

>>737602068
Damn. They were OP since they were only weak to bug and ghost and all those attacks were ass.

>>737602068
Psychic field is good though

>>737601505
what too close to home sweety

>>737601505
>let's draw a dragonfruit
>got an incomplete dragon dreameme
yup, it's ruined

>>737601505
This is a weird case where I don't think Fairy type is horrible by itself, but XY was the beginning of the end and most games with Fairy type blow. I guess it's worth criticizing that their solution to nerfing Dragon was a new type completely immune to Dragon attacks that also does double damage to Dragon types.

>>737601505
Make bug strong against fairy. It'd kill two birds with one stone.

>>737601505
Fairy type is there to destroy the overpowered types.

>>737601505
Why does it matter if one type is OP? Back in my day psychic was OP and we ate it up just fine.

>>737601637
Dragons weren't OP because of their typing, the slew of dogshit dragons prove that. They were OP because they had crazy ass numbers, godly coverage, and 2 moves that had 120+BP. Any type would be broken if they got that treatment.

>>737601703
You didn't play much gen 5 did you, faggot?

>>737602414
I stopped buying pokemon games after XY because of how big of a downgrade they were compared to the 5th gen

>>737602669
>WAHHHHHHHHHHH WHY COULDN'T THEY MAKE IT ANOTHER GEN 1 RIP OFF WITH SHIT MON!?!?!?!?

>>737601505
>made poison and steel worth a damn offensively
I like 'em

>>737602156
Bug is still the worst type in the entire franchise.

>>737601505
Fairy is a great reminder that "This type is good against strong types and bad against weak types" is terrible fucking balancing but I keep seeing OC type suggestions along the lines of "This beats water type and fairy type... It's immune to fairy actually... But it's weak to rock and bug!"

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>>737602624
>Dragons weren't OP
>Proceeds to list the reasons why dragons were OP
If your opponent had a dragon type you either had one dragon yourself to counter it or dear God be upon ye, an ice-brickmon

>>737601703
There was a time Steel types were irrelevant and Garchomp was king of the mons.

>>737603120
>>Dragons weren't OP
>...because of their typing
Maybe actually read the words you're responding to next time, champ? Then you wouldn't have to post selfies on Korean BBQing web circles as much.

The Gen 6 steel nerf did more damage than fairy IMO.

>>737603308
>Uranium doesn't kill you
>The properties of the uranium is whats actually killing you!

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>>737601505
They had one job

>>737601703
>Dragons were never OP
Gen 4 was 99% how do I not get swept by Salamence or Garchomp
Gen 5 was 99.9% how do I not instalose to DragonGem Draco Meteor

Dragon was extremely overpowered for a long time. Fairy puts the "just spam Draco" into check

>>737602624
>slew of dogshit dragons
Lol even the "lesser" dragon types like Flygon and Kingdra were good before fairies. There was like two truly bad fully evolved dragons at most.

>>737602624
>Dragons weren't OP because of their typing

>Dragon resisted by literally only Steel
>massive majority of Steel mons could not deal with Salamence, Garchomp, Latios etc

lolok

>>737602703
>WHY COULDN'T THEY MAKE IT ANOTHER GEN 1 RIP OFF
Yeah, they should've given the exact starter selection from Pokemon Red and had a sleeping Snorlax blocking the way until you wake it up with a flute!

>>737603423
>poison and bug forgotten

feelsbadman

>>737603230
Steel has never been irrelevant, it's always been one of the best types.

>>737602703
Are you genuinely retarded? Back then gen 1ers were pissed at the 5th gen despite being the peak of Pokemon

>>737603670
empoleon was my goat

>>737603670
>it's always been one of the best types.
not really..
skarmory, scizor, bronzong and magnezone carried the typing for it for a long time, but they'd all be meta-relevant even if they didn't have steel on them just due to their abilities, move pool and stat allocations
they were good because of many things, but very little of that had to do with specifically being steel type

earthquake and flamethrower/fire blast allbeing prevalent and relevant even without steel existing certainly didn't help - especially in gen 4 meta with garchomp and mixed infernapes around every corner, where being steel became an active detriment

Garchomp, Draco meteor and physical Outrage ruined the franchise
Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza were an initial step too far, but Gamefreak went off the deep end completely with gen4.. not to mention Gardevoir, Lucario, and Lopunny ruining the franchise in their own special way in the meantime

>>737604042
>Gardevoir, Lucario, and Lopunny ruining the franchise in their own special way
do you mean looking like humans or being furrybait, because dudes are fucking vaporeons out here and jynx and mr mime already existed

>>737601703
children were filtered by Genesis' Hydregion back in gen 5. It was the sole reason the fairy type was created.

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>>737601505
>>737601505
Based
Fairy is the worst type in pokemon history, it marked the moment they started catering to women and faggots instead of Pokemon being a boys Adventure game with cool locations and monsters.
>>737601637
And Mainly because of faggots like him. Dragons were never OP faggot, plenty of Bulky Water Pokemon carried ICE moves, even Snorlax could get Ice Punch.

Pokemon shouldnt be a cute game. Cute monsters are okay to have from time to time but they shouldnt be given preference over what got them popular. Which was Cool, Dangerous, and Mystical monsters.

>>737604138
>Dragons were never OP
salamance and garchomp were the scourge of multiplayer battling for nearly a decade

>>737604138
cutemons enhance the appearance of coolmons

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Steel getting nerfed was worse. Heaven forbid a defensive type has a bunch of resistances.

>>737601703
Dragon did wjat normal was supposed to be significantly better than normal types did by like gen 3 or 4

I wish there was a scene where you can hang Benga in the next game.

>>737604279

12 resistances would have been too many.
There's also no real reason that Steel should resist Ghost or Evil/Dark

>>737604138
All those amazing bulky water pokemon that aren't losing most of their health to Garchomp's Outrage like uh....

>>737604356
>There's also no real reason that Steel should resist Ghost or Evil/Dark
it was playing into the whole 'silver kills vampires' supernatural trope, same reason faery is weak to steel - fae are traditionally deathly allergic to cold iron/steel by folklore

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Say something nice about her.

>>737604202
And they STILL are despite the fairy typing, you dealt with them how you always do Tyrantiar, Gyarados are right the fuck there.

>>737604279
>Steel getting nerfed
It finally became a relevant offensive typing with fairy introduction.

>>737604138
>it marked the moment they started catering to women and faggots instead of Pokemon being a boys Adventure game with cool locations and monsters.
Bro that was as early as gen 2 babymons

>>737604356
That's the point - you use Steel for a wall, physical or special even. In return, you only get Ice and Rock-types weak to Steel, and no one's using a Steel-type to counter those two types when you have Fighting and Ground. Mixing Steel with another type removes its resistances.

>>737604727
It can still be a defensive type while also getting a bone with being supereffective against Fairy-types.

>>737604138
>it marked the moment they started catering to women and faggots instead of Pokemon being a boys Adventure game with cool locations and
That was already present in Gen I with Clefairy, Jigglypuff and Pikachu itself.

>>737604420
Yes, Milotic, Blastoise, Slowbro can tank and Ice Beam Salamence and Garchomp into Oblivion, same with even Lapras. You are a casual.

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>>737604437
>expect fat attack hammer kusogaki
>bad Attack stat
>gets 2/6 of the Hammer moves even after the DLC brings Dragon Hammer back
>movepool is based on support
What did I even expect after this is exactly what happened with Grimmsnarl?

>>737604491
Salamence got a powerful Mega that let him use his Flying stabs for power.
Garchomp barely uses his Dragon typing offensively anymore. He leans heavily on his powerful spread move usage with EQ and Rockslide

>>737604356
No steel attack ever hit. Steel is a horrid attack type. Even the 95% steel attack like metal claw miss 1 out of 5 or so it seems.

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>>737604968
I love her, but the fact she doesn't get all the hammer moves bothers me. Like just give them to her for the fun of it.

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>>737601505
i love fairies. specially Mawile.

>>737604356
I won't lie, steel losing its resists hurts more because ghost and dark are really fucking annoying types to defend against now.

>everyone here ignoring how OP water type is

>>737604968
>2/6
You mean
*3/6 Hammer moves now
they actually had some sense and gave her Wood Hammer

>>737601505
I stopped at BW2
Should have stopped at Platinum tbqh. Gen 5 sucked ass.

The legendaries of pokemon is really funny too since gen 3 and 4 have such extremes and then it drops back to being random monsters again
>Gen 1
Manmade monster
>Gen 2
some birds idk
>Gen 3
THE GODS OF THE EARTH, SEA, AND SKY
>Gen 4
THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND HIS ARCHANGELS
>Gen 5
Some dragons idk

>>737605130
Steel/Fairy is a god tier typing. The only typing that would be better is Fire and Fairy but it's too OP coverage wise which is why we didnt get one yet,

>>737601505
>make type that's strong against all the strong types and only weak to the weak types
>also said weak types are weak because they have no coverage whatsoever so if you put a steel or poison move on something, they will only ever hit fairies hard and nothing else, making them a waste of the 4 move slots you have unless it's a STAB move
>this is balanced by the way
Fairies need to be weak to at least 2 or 3 more types, even if they have to make new types for that. In fact I think they should make two more types anyway just to round out the type chart to 20.

>>737605065
Steel was never made to be good offensively on purpose.

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>>737605227
typing so good they fucking did it twice

>>737605353
That's my point you get great defense pre-Gen 6 the trade being steel moves are pure trash.

>>737604968
160 damage move makes up a big difference

>>737604770
Babymons were a breeding mechanic as well as another way to get otherwise unobtainable mons like Eletabuzz and Magmar. It wasnt completely catered for women.
>>737604860
I dont mind the inclusion of cutemons anon, girls can have a sense of adventure too and this guy is right >>737604239 but the inspiration behind the quintessential pokemon experience is primarily beholden to by straight men who like cool territorial and dangerous creatures. Men can also appreciate beauty for its sake, like the Old Man at Erikas Gym.

ngl, I miss swords dancing twice in front of a retard and just pressing outrage

>>737605469
>gets Calm Mind/Psychic'd by a Modest Alakazam in the proccess
>gets Ice Beamed by Blastoise twice
Nuthin personnel

>>737601505
It really should have been called Mystic, at least.

>>737605623
retard

>>737605401
Omg stfu.

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Dragonite should be dragon/fairy change my mind

>>737605562
a retard wouldn't use these tho
swords dance chomp would wipe basically anything after a free single swords dance in gen 4

>>737601637
FPBP

>>737605834
Faggot

>>737604770
The entire second gen, really. All of them look cuter and rounder than the first batch

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>>737605227
>which is why we didnt get one yet
>yet

>>737603837
Pretty sure that Yawnfag

>>737601637
If they didn't make ice types utter shit dragons wouldn't have been an issue

>>737601505
sex with sylveon

>>737602483
Sorry mate, bugs are the joke type of the game

>>737604356
Steel should definitely resist dark
Rich people use steel fences to keep the darks out all the time

>>737602703
What the fuck are you talking about schizo

>>737602624
Being weak to only yourself and ice helps a lot. All that support and something like poison/bug or bug/grass would still be trash because of how many weaknesses they have and far too few resistances they lack.

>>737604939
>You are a casual
>brings up milotic, blastois, and fucking laparas
Kill your self

>>737605730
who's gonna eat all these delicious stealth rocks i have set up?

>>737603430
Good but far from OP. Besides Salamence and legendaries no dragon type was meta defining in any format until gen 4 where they got the Outrage buff, Draco Meteor, and the physical/special split fixed their coverage issues. Only then did they start centralizing the game around them.

>>737603430
>Dragon resisted by literally only Steel
And? No one used Dragon moves until Gen 4 and Ground types had better coverage using any of the 100 Rock moves they learned. ffs EdgeQuake is only resisted by 7 of the 1000+ mons in the game but, Ground types were nowhere near the level of Dragon types noriety.
>massive majority of Steel mons could not deal with Salamence, Garchomp, Latios etc
"etc" besides Dragonite that's the entire list lol. If they weren't a psuedo or a legendary that were blessed with crazy ass stats and godly movepools they'd were mostly walled by Steels and needed Magnezone to cover their ass. If they didn't all learn Fire type moves and all have mixed offensive stats to abuse HP I don't even think a single non-legendary Dragon could even beat Ferrothorn or Skarmory.

>>737608852
Scizor was top tier multiple times and Venusaur raped and gaped B/W OU to death the second he got a good ability so I don't think their is an actual limit to what you can make good.

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>>737602025
They introduced the Dark type in GSC, which is immune to Psychic, and did Special damage (until they got the physical/special split two generations later), and Ghost as a typing got more moves worth a shit since. Mind, Dragons became a problem for like two generations before Fairy was instated to hard counter them, and did so with much stronger options when comparing Dark as a reactionary measure.

But the biggest hit to Psychic types directly was Special being split into Special Attack/Defense, with the Pokemon's original stat being allocated into either one and made them less powerful or tanky, also having the knock effect of giving a bit more Special Defense to those who had a pretty shitty amount. Chansey/Blissey was pretty much still a Special wall, Amnesia also only increases SpD, and it would take another generation for a SpA/SpD boosting move.

Ever since the typing has decent support, it's just kind of whatever and generally underwhelming by itself.

>>737601505
what I don't get is why they decided to nerf steel's resistances into the ground
it's already weak to all the most common attacking types anyway, it doesn't need to lose the resists that it has

>>737605730
Nah, then they couldn't be on Bird Keeper Lance's team.

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Pokemon would be so much better if typings were this.

>>737613776
>light
fuck outta here