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What went right?
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Very little. Blizz being Blizz they naturally found many different ways to fuck it up.
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>>737604740

They at least made hunters not useless for once
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>>737604740
everything in phase 1 was excellent. after that it fell off significantly. the problem is that leveling 1-25 is extremely fun. anything past that gets slow and dull to the point where more significant changes are needed than just introducing more runes, dungeons, etc.
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Remember how broken they made Shamans? You could build full tank and still roflstomp anything and anyone.
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>>737604740
Pandered to retail audience and it worked see
>>737604879
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>>737604995
what? i've played since vanilla. the best part of leveling is 1-25, no argument. most people fall off after that for a reason
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Right
>they made some of the class specs somewhat good (or in some cases ridiculously broken >>737604991)

Wrong
>everything else

I'm still mad that they tried to do new PvP events and they all ended up being hot garbage. Especially that Ashenvale bit that just ended up being AV lite
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>>737605220
>Especially that Ashenvale bit
it's crazy how stupid this event turns out, just a zergfest as always with large-scale WoW pvp
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>>737604740
I thought the "it's balanced around X players, but you can bring more if you want" raid size model was good
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>>737604740

I was having quite a bit of fun until they destroyed half the goddamned servers to where you were basically forced to transfer. Severed my guild and most of my RL friends that were playing quit from this as well.
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>>737605220
>>737605282

for me it was the STV bloodmoon shit where unless you had guildmates/friends who knew what they were doing you had to PUG it and hope they weren't completely braindead. Had some nice rewards though.
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>>737604740
The first 20 levels and that’s about it
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>>737604740
The random little stuff they added like the sleeping bag quest. Cool and fun items. Phase 1 was stupid as fuck but fun. And making it easy enough to pug raids in the later phases.

Still not really a serious attempt at actually improving the vanilla experience though. Most of the changes they could think of were just lifted from retail. Turtle wow was better. In the first 10 minutes of playing turtle you could see real changes that actually made sense and improved the experience.
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>>737606615

RIP Turtle

Bastards could've just told Blizzard to eat shit but they caved
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>>737604740
Forcing everyone to go outside and nerfing dungeons boosts was great because there were people actually grouping together for quests and socializing instead of playing single player in an MMO. I remember in phase 2 I did the entirety of wetlands with a druid I ran into in an afternoon. It was great.
I also liked some of the changes to raids, as well as the new dungeons/raids. Kara crypts and scarlet enclave were cool for being mostly reused assets.
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I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT RETAILIFIED FUNSERVERS AND ENDLESS FRESH FOMO PROGRESSION I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING EXPANSIONS AS THEY WERE WITHOUT IT GETTING YANKED AWAY AGAIN AND AGAIN.

THEY ARE STILL RUNNING DOZENS OF COMPLETELY EMPTY VANILLA SERVERS AND NOT A SINGLE TBC AND WRATH ERA FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>737608023
era has a decently populated server for each region.
>b-but tbc and wotlk
lol who cares, raidlog garbage that you quit after clearing the last raid a few times
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>>737608023
There are, in fact, TBC servers running right now
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>>737604740
>soft level caps intermittently
>raids were fun
thats basically it. everything else was executed poorly. the runes were fun at first, but they could get annoying too and they totally messed up the balance. its mind blowing how bad PvP events like ashenvale were, these devs do not understand world PvP at all and they havent since like 2006 actually.
>>737605220
>heh the things they did right was make the game even more unbalanced than vanilla and make my class OP!
zug brained to the core i see.
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>>737604740
P1
Shaman Tanks
Giving every class an extra button to press early (cept Shamans oddly enough)
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>>737604991
Shaman tanks were at least hilarious in their bullshit, and eventually ran out of gas until they were just given shamanistic rage as baseline.
Warlock Tank on the other hand was the most unfun shit to fight ever.
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>>737604740
nothing
>literal warlock summon spam 24/7 nonstop, people subbing 3 accounts just to warlock summon for dosh all day
>zero new content outside of runes that gave retail abilities (lmao)
>horribly unfun low lvl raids (raiding is for fags)
>awful class balance (shamans were literal demi gods)
>destroy the economy with 1 retarded patch
>servers died early on in phase 2 because gnomer and pvp was absolutely awful and only losers continued to play after that
never trust nu blizzard
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>>737606656
People think they're buying time right now before changing their user handles and rebranding in june
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>>737606656
>>737609321
shenna and crogge are roaches that will never stop infesting the pserver scene. they'll double down on opsec and open a new server eventually, even if it takes a few years



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