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Previously on Final Fantasy XIV...
>You, uh, ever play a job with soul, xivboy?
>Let's see that job.
>EVOLVE IT!
>They made you... fun?
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>those teeth
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>>737607739
Nigga looks like he eats coral
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I WANT
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>>737607739
>saves your game by himself
How the fuck did he do it?
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>DNC retains Dance Partner and Devilment
>has to know every other job to know when to activate buffs based on who they're partnered to
Kino
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3rfUC80DE


Kino has returned to us.
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Very odd they're tricking people into thinking evolved is gonna be hecking easy but what they showed is looking very difficult, far more difficult than what we have right now or in EW.
I don't think people realize how punishing timing based counters are gonna be in a 12 minute fight or DRG dealing with left/right/rear positionals and timeout attacks.
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>>737608116
DT was a bad fever dream.
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>>737608116
>>Kino has returned to us.
Well of course, it's just Heavensward 2
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>>737608121
They've already got enough retards shouting that "less buttons = easy" so yeah it's gonna be a shock to a lot.
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Gold Saucer status? Wasn't there supposed to be some announcment. Did I dream it?
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>An autistic LoLfag who got the job by begging his gaming journalist boss to get him an interview with Yoship winds up saving the game
What a fucking world.
>>737608121
It's going to be easier to get into, but harder to master in most cases.
That being said
>how punishing timed counters are in a 12m fight
All my monster hunter experience is laughing.
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Wuk lost
DT lost
Kate lost
Hiroi lost
The Balance lost
Doomers lost
Gamers won
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>>737608121
You have 4 seconds to get the proper one right, that is VERY generous, not to mention it can proc off of autos as well. It's basically a better-designed version of TBN.
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>>737607934
>Not swapping to someone about to go into their burst so you don't lose uptime
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>>737608262
I won? but I didn't do anything
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>>737607934
>>737608341
Not a chance in hell this happens.
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>>737608192
Its a new collab. They can't just announce it until all the legal shit is ready on both ends.
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>>737608121
I've been playing Samurai for a while so I'm used to figuring out how many times I can trigger tengetsu in a big fight. It's honestly nice to have at least that layer of moderate thinking from how gameplay has gone.
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>>737608149
Shadowsward
Heavenbringers
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>>737608341
You just invented Square Dancing
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>Weekly progress could still be as limiting as current daily system, it's just more lenient with what you can get done in a week
>MSQ is just blatantly SHB 2 with ice instead of light, to an insulting degree
My only gripes desu, everything else looked good.
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>>737608375
About as much chance as me moving one inch from behind a boss to bother with positionals.
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>>737607739
temper your hype tards
never trust what yoshida says
at least 2mins meta being gone and bosses not designed to buff times is an absolute positive
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>>737607934
There's so much cool stuff they could do with dancer that will never happen. You could even get rid of buff skills and have it so your dance partner grants various buffs depending on the dance combo you use like MNKs PB for buffs.
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>>737607897
she cute
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>>737608121
It's easier to find what button you need to press but you actually have to correlate it to what the fuck you are doing in game
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it would be really funny if evolved rapes all old ultimates because of overtuned numbers
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Can I get a quick rundown on the job stuff they showed/talked about after the presentation? Specifically PLD but other jobs would be appreciated
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>>737608550
As opposed to reborn doing them with 8 tanks?
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>>737607897
Holy shit I need this fat nigger to sit on my face
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>>737608525
the problem was never figuring out what you were doing, it was mapping all 50 commands to a single controller with 16 buttons which was the hard part
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>>737608591
but can YOU do ultimates with 8 tanks
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>>737608550
we already do that right now
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>>737608564
https://www.youtube.com/live/_aCGzxWczCM?si=ZsDBpIHDS-inxQAo&t=22793
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>>737608564
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Imagine left right positional on Vishap-sized bosses
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>>737608550
>tfw only did UCOB
>won't be able to do the rest before the changes
At least I'll clear Kefka on content I hope
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>>737608623
No, I can't do ultimates with evolved mode either. Checkmate tranny.
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I just watched the keynote part is the deeper dive on the class changes somewhere in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aCGzxWczCM
and if so where
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>>737608564
pld was iirc
Single target magic is target specific and turns into clemency when used on allies
Intervene grants cover when cast on allies
shield lob turns into shield bash when target is melee range
Holy Sheltron has a parry strike (automatic) with potency based on when you absorb a hit with it
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>>737608697
>>737608643
Go back like 15~ minutes if you want to see them recapping the keynote.
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>World First for Kefka Ult
>they get the clear
>everyone is excited, taking screenshots etc
>someone decided to touch the portal
>triggers cutscene and Kefka pulls you back into the instance for the real final phase/victory lap
Like they gotta do something of that caliber eventually. Bringing Kefka back is the perfect time for a fakeout.
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>>737608116
so fucking boring
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>>737608697
Like around 6:20
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Switch 2 release btw
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>>737608724
>>737608754
Thanks
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>>737607739
Dude in what world do you expect FFXIV players to get this reference?
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>>737608116
doubt it will be as good as Stormblood or DT. looks like generic fantasy trash like ShB and EW.
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>>737608713
I don't like that you now have to target yourself for clemency if you need it in a pinch, but otherwise pretty solid changes. I do wonder what the point of cover will be now though, since often you might be dashing into danger and taking 2x damage instead of one instance.
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>>737608604
First off, no job had 50 command or anywhere close to it.
Secondly, you can easily get more than 16 easily accessed binds on controller.
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>>737608116
I feel zero hype
the music sucks

ffxiv is over imho
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That garlemald autist from the other day must be really fucking sad right now.
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>>737608662
you can just stand dead center on the mob to make it easier
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>>737608815
It should default to heal if you aren't targeting anything. You can just esc > heal > tab.
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>Icebringers in desperation to bring back when the game peaked in popularity
>Rejoining was good
>all jobs are viper now
Endwalker had flaws, but overall I was satisfied with it as an ending and can look on the game with fond memories. I'm not coming back
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>>737608784
Aren't we all boomers?
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>>737608834
People had zero hype for SHB after the first trailer, too.
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>>737608851
all jobs are smn actually. not even viper
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>>737608116
>Kino has returned to us.

fuck are you talking about that was beyond dull
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>>737608851
>>all jobs are viper now
I still don't see this. All four shown demos play nothing like viper.
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>>737608873
bull fucking shit
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>>737608873
lmao stfu
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>>737608784
>>737607739
>Previously, on The Scions
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Retards don't even know VPR evolved won't even play like VPR Reborn
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>>737608815
I disabled self target in the menu because it was annoying clicking myself when I'm trying to click an enemy. I only hope you can separate specific skills in Evolved mode at your leisure if needed
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>bosses throw tankbusters at random party members so the PLD has to Cover them and parry it
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>Rounds up raidtroons and executes them on main stage (ilvl change)
>After the main even is over he makes sure he did his job properly and round up parsefags and executes them too (kills raid buffs, 2 min meta AND evolved jobs are actually good and fun on top of it)
>At the very end he calls Xeno on stage and castrates him for his retarded streamer rage ruining PLD and GNB in EW/DT (warrior is now offtank sissy)
Literally all he has to do it to make sure they don't fuck up MSQ again and the game is saved for another 10 years
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>>737608770
Alright overall i'm so far not a fan of this button trimming but this specific part is a really cool idea
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BENEATH THE GAZING STARRRRRRRRS
VALES DEEP AND FOREST DARRRRRRRRK
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>>737608926
VPR evolved will be literally a 1:1 pvp copy and it will be amazing
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If Evercold is successful will Yoshi retire?
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>>737608851
>Rejoining was good
there's no way it's actually going to be this
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>>737608116
i thought this was AI because it was so bad
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>>737608904
>>737608914
You weren't there, lilbros. The NA fanfest reception was lukewarm back then. Wasn't until they showed off more of the scions in action at EU and Viera that people got super hype.
>dude they are rehashing mobs from amdapor hard
>gunbreaker doesn't even shoot bullets
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I wasn't on board with evolved PLD, the parry doesn't really make up for having only 3 damage buttons you press over and over in my eyes.
DRG looked much more interesting, especially the big jump attack, though 90% damage reduction while using it seems far too much to last more than a patch.
BRD makes me fear the worst for this new system. Yes the jump was neat, but otherwise it was literally just current summoner; pick your song(primal) then press the same button 4 times, pick the next song, repeat, complete with one of them having a longer cast to manage.
I really hope evolved does more for most classes than just reduce you to pressing the ability that lights up and that's it.
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They unironically turned FFXIV into a mobile game, holy fuck.

This game is a gacha game in all but name.
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>>737607837
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>We'll make sure the Evolved rotations retain and promote the unique aspects of each job
That's great, but you didn't specify whether that means you're going to pull more memberberries from past FFs for SMN/SCH or if you'll actually throw a bone to the people who like FF14 Arcanist.
I feel my heartstrings being pulled by the prospect of Bane making a grand return but I mustn't be tricked again before I see what the rest of the jobs look like. Whitemage is Whitemage and can't be too complicated, but there's once again a real danger that healers will be the least cared for role in terms of design.
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>>737608987
Did you skip Pandaemonium and 7.0? Azem literally planned for you to rejoin the shards after Meteon was stopped. That's why he fucked off while everyone else was summoning Zodiark.
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>>737608968
They will probably keep the scales and turn Awaken into that beyblade attack that applies the vuln, rest plays like current VPR but without the basic 120 potency ranged.
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>>737609017
The Switch 2 is not that expensive bro
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>Evercold

really? sounds lame as fuck. even worse than Dawntrail.
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This is obviously pretty low on the priority scale but when was the last time we had a new housing zone? Shirogane? Feels like about time to put a new district up somewhere.
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>>737608936
That fuckass mammoth in the one dungeon does this and its actual hell with pugs in roulette
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>>737609080
yeah it's a really boring name
suits the boring trailer honestly
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>>737609017
Does that mean we're allowed to regularly post about it on /v/ now?
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>no new outfits

it's over
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>>737609107
you get action skins now
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>>737609081
Ishgard.
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>>737609082
That mammoth is unfortunately getting changed this Tuesday. RIP to a real one who did not give a FUCK.
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>>737608957
This is a bit weird to me though, specifically the extra charge part, why not instead of having 2 charges simply give each half of the skill a separate cooldown, I guess it might be a readability issue
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>>737609062
>Azem literally planned
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>>737609131
yay...?
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Healers are actually going to be fun again right? It's not just going to be spamming 1 attack and maintaining 1 dot right?
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>>737609107
They did show some of the 8.0 artifact armors though
I like the dancer one, those are always very much female first in design but I think that works well as a male design
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pld is now main tank. i repeat pld is now the main and only main tank. off tank sissies get the fuck out of pld way!
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>>737607739
>See PLD changes at firs and be skeptical
>Get proven wrong by active tanking with parries like in lotro
>See DRG changes at firs and be skeptical
>PvP limit break is not a placeholder and dragoon get first real jump attack in 16 years
>See WHM changes at firs and actually don't know what changed
>high cure, instant glare, gcd healing fixed
>See BRD changes at firs and be skeptical
>Castbars are back, dash attack is the coolest looking thing ever
I'm sorry mr leagueoflegendsguy for not believing in you
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>>737608851
>>all jobs are viper now
Explain how.
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>>737609012
You do realize the internet exists and we can see videos and archived conversations from that time........right?
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>>737609136
because now you can get 2 charges of provoke OR two charges of shirk (why would you need 2 charges of shirk)
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>Even the leader of the Doomers kneels
How did Mr.Prime do it?
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>>737609170
I just want some of the elemental stuff to be relevant again for white mage, all we have left is a water shield, and it's our secondary single target shield
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>Evercucked
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>>737609062
>azem planned something that never happened in his timeline in the first place
???????
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>>737609170
there's a lot they can do with the other three healers, WHM was probably the only one ready first because of how simple it already was
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>>737609190
>whm
I still don't know what changed
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>>737609107
fucking retard
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>>737609170
Every class is now spamming one attack and nobody has dots anymore.
This is a good thing, apparently?
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>>737609170
>maintaining 1 dot
does he know?
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>>737609138
That's explained in Pandaemonium. Its why I asked if you skipped it.
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Why did he do it?
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>>737609248
BLU is too pure for this sinful world
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>>737609237
i meant for the Scions you fucking imbecile
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>>737609243
It explained nothing bro. All it did was telling you Azem knows, not how he knows.
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>>737609237
DRG looking generic as usual
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>>737609269
He has the same Echo power as Mikoto.
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>>737609269
>Azem can see into the future
But how he know thing that hasn't happen yet?
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>>737609235
There's no Dia, Benis and Aquaveil are one button, some spells have different animation when you cast them a second time in succession
That's about what I gathered
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good god that trailer was sleep inducing
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>>737609238
BRD literally had DOTs though
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>>737609248
Because fuck limited jobs. Waste of dev time
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wow floating land masses
we sure haven't seen those before
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>>737609238
>update that turns game into 1-button brainless mashing for mobile fags
>v instantly loves it
not really surprising.
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>>737608873
>history revisionism
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>>737609313
uh yeah it's an old lady telling a bed story you fuckin idiot
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I'm not excited at all so hopefully the gameplay is good
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>>737609313
The 1/3 always are. I think EW was the only one that held interest from the start.
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>>737608116
>nevergood
>kino returned
snow biome was shit the first time and why I stopped playing
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>>737609349
not a great defence
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they're literally just slapping heavensward and shadowbringers together, funny as fuck
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For that Anon who kept asking and waiting the news if good for you, they're adding Shadowbringers up to 5.5 to the free trial.
https://x.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/2047755150190886942
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>>737609267
How would we know? You saw two of them in a very early version of the trailer and that's it. Yshtola is probably wearing something new under that robe though.
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>>737609298
Current whm is already so simple the changes just feel like more of the same to me
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>>737609248
2 minute meta was started through blue and it will live on through blue
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>Skill glams.
Would b neat if we could go full-single-element for BLM.
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>>737609318
Yeah, for 3 seconds.
A 3 second dot is not a dot you manage, it's just another damage button.
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sounds like a bad soundgarden song lmao

zzzzz
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>game is still shit
money saved
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>they actually changed game's design
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>>737609349
kek
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>>737609381
They called the man who first combined peanut butter and chocolate together crazy.
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>>737609318
They lasted for 3s, so exactly one tick. It did 84k or something but still. A dot in name only
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>>737609349
So was Odin Sphere and it was not shit
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>>737609386
does that mean free viera and shitdog race?
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Any news for us RDM enjoyers?
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>>737609386
Switch 2 new players are eating so fucking good is not fair
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>>737609349
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>>737609349
>an old lady
Y'shtola.
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>>737609407
I'll resub for the base expansion MSQ and then quit. The game behind the story simply isn't compelling enough.
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>>737609080
I fixed it.
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>>737609421
Blame them for doing 3 fan fests and only showing half the trailer at the first one.
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>>737609235
instead of "spend 3 lilies to get a gcd equal to 4 gcds" it's "spending lilies increases your next glare damage by +100% each" which amounts to the same thing but gives you more flexibility and making it less reliant on critting Misery
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>>737609421
Odin Sphere is a little girl reading books in her attic.
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>everyone dabbing on evolved mode when it's revealed
>they beg for forgiveness 3 hours later when it's shown in more detail
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>>737609421
I've fallen asleep playing Odin Sphere twice.
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>>737609386
Well I have a character with 4k hours but I quit 2 years ago and I was waiting for this. I'll create a completely new account so I don't ever have to give SE any money and I'll just live at the Crystarium and then when they update the free trial to Endwalker when 9.0 releases I'll live at Old Sharlyan.
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>>737609470
I JUST REALIZED
SHE'S NOT PRAYING
SHE'S WARMING HER HANDS BECAUSE IT'S SO COLD
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>>737609457
nuh uh

https://youtu.be/OaLvSJmvw9k?si=PIASiKdjOKQqvOcN
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>>737609441
Your AF got horse riding pants and sorta looks like if your af1 and af3 had a weird illegitimate child. Other than that, idk what your job will be with the buff prunes happening
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>>737609534
Por que no los dos?
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>next expansion is so good that doomposters are now looking for anything to shit talk about
LOL
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>>737609248
Well, you can't really do an evolved BLU
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>>737609470
LMAO
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How would you evolve monk?
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>>737609545
anon
what did she call herself in the first, because this old lady has a miqote tail
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>>737609534
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>>737607739
TEMPLATENIGGER GET YE GONE
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EVERCOLD just sounds like a post-ARR dungeon
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>>737609545
>Hooded like in the ShB trailer
>Voiced by Matoya
>White cat tail
Its 1000% Y'shtola anon
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>>737609470
>neversold
>nevergood
>neversub
>evershit
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>>737609571
Bring back 4.3 TK monk call it an evolve mode.
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>>737609136
the counter thing is pretty cool but the new thing after passage of arms catches my eye even more, feels weird to be giving the parries to the job that's most often off tank but it seems for a lot of attacks you can just be in range of it even if you don't have aggro and still trigger the thing so that's cool
>>737609214
Yeah I suppose so
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>balancetrannies still haven't recovered from yesterday's show
>the guy that killed raiding about to quit
I will go to the next fanfest and assault yoshida and suck his dick on stage if it happens
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They aren't going to release the expansion with 4 evolved jobs and then slowly dripfeed the rest of them over two years to pretend they are content right? RIGHT?
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more like

NEVERGOOD

LOL
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Dammit man I tried logging back in with a PS5 account, got told I have been blocked for "suspicious activity" so I tried to reset password as recommended...only to be told in the email that there is no account associated with the email account
Fucking shit man lmao
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>>737609556
Your green text calling everyone a doomer while you whiteknight every retarded SE decision is getting tiring.
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world evercold
winter everlong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crOZk88eCcg
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>>737609534
BRAVO KOJIMA
BRAFUCKINGVO
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>>737609634
This is the best fanfest ever...
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>>737609634
FINALLY
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>even the audience is bored as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtFTNloka-c
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>>737607912
Im worried for his future as he got so much positive reception and ovation from the audience, yoshida is a jealous fuck. Ishikawa got shunted of to a corner after the same happened to her
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>>737609636
Are you retarded?
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>>737609386
Literally just play the best parts of the game for free now lol
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>>737609634
TOTAL
PARSENIGGER
DEATH
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I won't rest until I get actual confirmation that Kate is gone
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>>737609634
TOTAL PARSEFAG DEATH
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>>737609654
>>737609634
Your response to this one, doomer? Spin this in a negative light for us, dance for our amusement.
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>>737609636
they're all already done
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>>737609248
He just wanted to show off his sick powerpoint skills
>>737609386
Oh shit I thought that was gonna be closer to evercold release but it's like right now
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>>737609715
posted it again award
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>>737609715
nah koji fag is keeping her around
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>>737609634
NOOSE TIME FOR BALANCETROONS
NOOSE TIME NOW
NOOSE TIME NOW
NOOSE TIME NOW
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>>737608835
he was seething.
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>>737609491
>>737609421
Princess Crown is the one with the Old Lady telling the story for the young girl
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>>737609505
>everyone
not if you weren't a reactionary golem person you weren't
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>>737609623
>just let's you TK twice after hitting Riddle of Fire which automatically triggers after 2 PBs triggered themselves
>PB removed because it automatically starts up off its typical GCD timer anyway
>remove demolish and replace it with a filler Blitz like howling fist or some shit
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>Another femra expansion
>It's viking xaelas now
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>>737609636
Anon, this is the fabled job rework, they are reworking everything and putting it out all at once. The reason why the old system is sticking around is because it would be too big of a shock to change every single fucking job into something entirely new all at the same time and expect people to pick it up at level 100 on day 1 of a new expansion.

>New jobs will only have evolved modes
Expect reborn mode to be sunset by the next expansion.
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>>737609720
It's too late. People aren't coming back. Raidfags leaving will just leave second lifers as the only playerbase left.

This is what Dawntrail should have done.
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>>737608479
Something neat they could do is make it when you use the 4 step dance, you get a token that corresponds to your partner's role. They then get a debuff that makes it so you can't get another token from them until you get one from someone else, so you switch partners and use your dance again to get another token. Now, when you utilize your dance again, it consumes those tokens and applies a buff to you and/or the party based on the token combination.
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>has to do the Manderville theme because he knows everyone was bored
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>>737609634
I'm not even sure what their fucking obsession with this stuff is. Tradition and habit cemented? They want the game to be theirs forever at the cost of everybody else? Some weird inability to want to adjust? Because the buffs were so automatic it wasn't even party or alliance depth, and if someone was retarded to miss one you just died, end of story. There's no depth there and there never was, but remove the synergy buffs and suddenly they act like Yoshida murdered their dog in front of them.
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>>737609397
If it's mogstation as well I can see this going to some real coomer places. In XI Dragoon's Stardiver specifically had Mithra players complete the animation by sliding down the spear like a stripper pole and that is the single thing people who played to Abyssea remember about DRG beyond them dying a lot. You could easily sell that for like $12 on mogstation now, and some male roe cunt is going to use it.
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>>737609732
And if you have a Switch 2 you can play all of that for free on July
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>>737609021
why do brits n nips have such bad teeth?
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Best. Expansion. Ever.
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>>737609804
>They want the game to be theirs forever at the cost of everybody else
This one.
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>>737609731
Being done doesn't mean they have to come out. Beastmaster was announced in January 2024 and they didn't release it purely so they could have pretend content for a year long drought.

Imagine how much hype they could build by having 3 job reworks every single patch and how much real content they wouldn't need to make while they did it.
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>>737609786
>it would be too big of a shock to change every single fucking job into something entirely new all at the same time and expect people to pick it up at level 100 on day 1 of a new expansion.
People needs to grow a brain and learn to read the fucking tooltips.
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I just hope they stop doing the autistic balance and add more shit like the DRG jump that ignores most of the damage.
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>>737609803
yep lol
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Do I have this as a webm? maybe, I forget which one this is
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>>737608550
Ultimates get destroyed with every new expansion due to potency/job changes. There isn't a single piece of combat content in the entire game which has retained its initial difficulty following a new expansion. Ultimate, savage, Deep Dungeon, etc. Everything always gets easier so your clears don't matter unless you get them while the content is still relevant.
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>>737607897
wuk'lamaquisha
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>>737609634
>every fight won't be paced identically and every job won't play the exact same. i'm quitting
holy shit the game is saved
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>>737609836
They can, now at their own pace because the old system is still there as a fallback. This way people can ease themselves into it at their own pace.
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>>737609823
americans do too, but all the kids wear braces in elementary school to fix it. The Japanese think fucked up teeth are cute, and the Brits have just given up on looking nice
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Man, these threads after the first expansion announcement are exactly like the ones after the Dawntrail announcement: everyone calling it shit and boring and some retards calling everyone doomers and saying "can't wait for the anime beach episode saga". The future is honestly grim.
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>>737609804
It's the only thing they've ever attained in life to have status attached. It's about to be removed. They're seething they're about to be irrelevent. That's it.
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evangelion huh
desperate much?
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>>737608116
and it only took kate and daichi nearly bankrupting the company
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>>737609894
it's honestly sad
has nothing to do with ff or se
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>>737609890
It's going more like when Shadow dropped actually
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>>737608116
>talk talk talk talk
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>>737609594
>balancetroon wailing
TAMAKI
WAS
A
GIFT
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>the biggest retarded shit eaters thought they were getting a garlean expansion

HAAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
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>>737609890
Dawntrail's trailer is good. Evercold is just boring.
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But my Zero.....
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>He call himself a Tank
>Look closer
>No shield in hand
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>>737609842
Some people here are already coming up with cool shit like DNC retaining the buffs for dance partner only so you have to know the job of the person you're partnering to play optimally

A proper dragoon jump with some form of damage reduction was already never ever tier so I hope they lean into it and not have it just be a one off thing
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>>737609931
are you still on about this 24 hours later
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Are they finally going to detach Au Ra horns from their face so the best horns aren't attached to the ugliest face and the best face is attached to the ugliest horns?
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>>737609907
All things change
Drawn to the flame
To rise from the ashes
To begin
We first must see the end
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>>737609571
Im just gonna say what I expect them to do
>form shift changes 123 into the aoe versions
>every GCD gives a chakra
>Riddle of Earth has a stacking counter up to X times
>get to unleash a scaling potency attack based on stacks (think of it like old Shoha from way back in 5.0, but no meditation required)
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>>737609937
dawntrails trailer was fucking garbage
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>mfw Meracydiafags still waiting
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Is the little au ra kid a shard of someone. (hags not yshtola)
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>>737609943
>shield

scrub
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>>737609954
we're already in one obsessed shitposter's thread so yea
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>>737609916
exactly it's fucking desperation because they absolutely know how bad DT was
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>>737608851
they're all smn now like >>737608874 said
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>>737609976
>meracudiafags
>corvosfags
lol
lmao even
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>>737609954
are you still on shb skipping the garlean expansion no one wanted? hahahHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH
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>>737609954
Yes, that guy blew a gasket trying to shout down everyone else and force them into admitting that Garlemald of all places was interesting enough to be the main focus of an expansion in 2027.

never ever bro, we're going to the stars as we were meant to
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>>737609632
ok yeah overall I like a lot of what evolved Paladin is doing with contextual actions but i'm a lot less keen on combo button consolidation
I'm gonna go back and watch the intro to the panel first before I watch the dragoon part
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>>737609982
It's the ice princess
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>Yawnfail
>Neversold
What's next?
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>>737610026
There is no next.
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>>737610012
Glad this won't be a thing anymore
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>>737609779
>viking xaelas
WE MUST BE BETTER XAELAS
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>>737609583
I hope that wasn't the little girl from the story. :(
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>>737610004
"evangelion crossover is desperation" bro evangelion is the town bicycle literally everything has a crossover with it
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>>737610026
Spring is after winter, so probably something like Brightbloom
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjydQ56wXqg

>look at his coat - it's flowing

ffxiv fags are this easily entrained huh
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>>737610026
>EoSWoops
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>we need someone with excellent diplomatic skills to help us navigate this new world
>call Lyse and Wuk Lamat we need them on the team
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>>737609982
It is yshtola, look at the kid and think about her past, the tail, how she lights the candle, her brooch, the voice actor, and especially what she says and has cut off at the very end of the trailer.
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>>737610070
how does that absolve what I said?
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>>737610051
GOOOOOOOOOOOOODLESS REALM, WHERE IS MY EB'S SON?
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>>737610019
Oh wait the intro was really just recap and intro, I went back because they hadn't said anything explicit about 2 minute meta removal so I thought maybe I skipped past it, but if I did i'll just trust /v/s word on this
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>>737609237
Right there, in the middle
That's me!
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>>737609715
I have a sinking feeling she'll be in Berlin. Even if she's still around Koji is way more entertaining and accurate translating and interacting with Yoshida so they should use him anyway.
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>Yoko Taro is working on the EVA raid
he really just keeps coming back to XIV, huh?
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>>737610095
Honestly the way the patch cycle is looking, I'm guessing we're going to get attacked by some shit through the portal so the Scions come in swinging to figure out what the hell is going on.
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>>737610070
do you realize how stupid you sound right now?
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I do think Evercold is a pretty shit title.
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>>737609779
Imagine if we got to bring Magnai and Sadu as our core team this time.
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>>737610126
This nigger doesn't even have a boat
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>>737610096
hags broach is the same as teh aura man. i dont think so bub but ill rewatch.
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>>737610012
>>737610043
>Evolved SMN
>12 second cast time to summon a primal
>sit back for 30 seconds as the primal acts on its own
yep, it don't get any better than this
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>>737610004
>It's going to be FF7 because they are breaking the glass in case of emergency!
>It's not FF7 at all
>o-ok but still! it's a panic button!!!!!!!
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>>737610103
they're desperate so they go with the lowest effort crossover in all japanese media
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>>737610074
9.0 is winter anon. Evercold is fall.
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Switch bros where the fuck are you at?
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been unsubbed since 6.2 and evolved mode did literally every single thing I wanted for them to do for the combat, i might actually resub next year as long as its not a catastrophic mess
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>>737609456
There’s no doubt in my mind, this guy is a Zodiark trancer.
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so im guessing liz girl with the glasses was also raised by matoya so hopefully we get more shtola
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>>737610141
Can't wait for another badly written raid story!
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>>737610173
>12 second cast time to summon a primal
So it's faithful to classic SMNs? Sounds kino.
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>>737610126
>mudhut living spear chucking lizard calling anyone else a simpleton
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>all those replies saying the trailer was boring
What? It was intriguing. Not everything is gonna be fireballs from the sky and constant battle. Are people so brainfried they can't appreciate setting the table?
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>>737610167
the garleans dont have an empire. LOL
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>>737610174
where in my post did I mention FF7
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>>737610115
They say the 2 minute is gone for both Reborn and Evolved after the BRD demo, that said i need to see Reborn gameplay as well to compare how much is changed between them I kind of doubt everything they showed is Evolved exclusive.
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>>737610174
>It's not FF7 at all
Are you blind?
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>>737609634
send every single parsetranny to concentration camp and give them the rope. NO EXCEPTIONS.
send the nigger that made fflogs to eternal torture chamber like squealer from new world
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>SE has pulled all of its "in case of emergency break glass" options in the wake of Dawntrail
>WOL focused on as a hero of legend that saves an alien world since the start of the trailer
>Winter focused
>Ascians
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Alright /v/ give it to me straight? Is the game saved? I ragequit halfway through dawntrail. Should i force myself to finish it for 8.0?
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>>737610180
Switchfags don't play non-nintendo games
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>>737610174
nice goalpost shift
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>>737610043
>>737610173
>>737610196
shitposting aside smn could actually be pretty cool with this evolved system
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>>737610174
>"The Promised Land"
>frozen northern continent
>Norse theme (Midgar, Nibelheim)
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>>737610205
GRUG NEED CLIMAXES AND BOOMS NOW
NO SETUP
ONLY PAYOFF
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It's fucking WILD to me that people still defend SE.
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>>737610179
9.0 will be called....Winterwinds
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Yes they already talked about it yesterday but the biggest problem is the schedule of the content, tuesday patch is just msq-dungeon-trial and alliance and then you have to wait until the end of july for the second occult crescent map and then until september for just more msq and beastmaster
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Since that leak was jarringly accurate does that mean Halmarut is gonna be our enemy after all? I kinda suspected already.
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>>737610226
No fuck off.
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>>737610252
buyers remorse and sunken cost fallacu are strong
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>>737610204
>mudhut garleans seething their capital, corvus, the empire is in ruins.
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Ok so as someone who really enjoyed FF14 for 8 years and then quit at 7.0/ Dawntrail because of how bad that expansion was I'll give my thoughts on the expansion reveal so far.

Postives
>It's not Dawntrail
>Wol is main focus again
>New adventure in a fantastical world
>Best Scion is with me (Estinien) and hopefully Alphie has forgotten that Dawntrail happened
>I like the theme a lot for the expansion, Viking aesthetic, World Serpent, enormous monsters roaming the land it's really cool
>I like the snow and ice as the big threat
>I really like the design of the zones they've shown even though they haven't shown much
>I'm all in for the MSQ I'll definitely resub for 8.0 launch.

Negatives
>'New' customisation options were a joke
>I'm not happy with the level cap being raised another 10 levels with one job action and that's still their leveling system, they didn't even attempt at trying something different.
>I'm not convinced the gameplay itself is fun, and didn't like how the Open World Zones are still just set dressing for the MSQ with barely anything different to do since this game has begun
>Still loading screens upon loading screens and they've no plan to ever change that
>Game fundamentally isn't changing, it's not a 'rebirth'.
>Only thing they've seriously listened to for feedback is changing the story

I'll return but I won't return long term I think that's broadly how most people like me are feeling and thinking right now.
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>>737610230
I want to have at least 1 friend not really asking for the impossible
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The race of lizards that live in a big field and drink their own piss and fuck horses is somehow the deepest most complex race in the entire game with more lore than every other race combined.
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>>737610205
It's just Shadowbringers, but Ice and boring. The desperation from the devs is hilarious.
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>>737610291
Ukraine lost btw.
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>>737610174
absolute fucking RETARD on display right here
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Hey this thread is noticeably more shitheaded and forced memey than the past few
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>>737610224
hiroi , kate, and that wow CEO guy really sabotaged them hard as well as that consultation company.
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>PLD's 123 combo gives him a cast of Expiacion instead of divine might
>Divine might comes from Imperator apparently
>No more free uptime every 3 GCDs, only once every minute
How are we feeling PLDbros? I like all the other changes but this one I'm not sure
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The Scions of the 4th Shard... Westwolves...
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>>737610174
you should delete this lol
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>>737610194
filtered
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>>737610194
Nier is the best written alliance raid story tho.
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>>737610332
They have, yeah. It's likely that this is SE's last hurrah and if this expansion fails, it's all over for them.
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>>737610243
>The Sephiroth and Aerith posing Au ra
>Concept art is literally midgar
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>>737610331
>He still doesn't know what the new jobs are
The leak.
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>>737610312
So you have no real argument just repeating empty words. Got it.
That's how rejoinings work by the way, any future interactions with shards that had them would have suffered a wave similar to the wave of light except they didn't have a Minfilia to keep it in check.
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>>737609634
>>737610220
I am enjoying this salt, parsing was always gay
I mean you have to go out of your way and make people sack or whatever for "optimal kill times" on a 2m window
That's gay, and it's cringe
>>737610243
Bro, we're going to Hyperborea
They swung the pendulum back hard
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I'm really worried evolved form is just convenient consolidations with tangible but few avenues for optimization
Both BRD and DRG had cool ideas with conditional actions and bespoke mechanics, but a lot of the "rotation" looked like extra one-time-use GCD chains and then back to your normal 1-2-3 (which is now 1-1-1)
Let's just hope they intend to add more and were just showing the level 50 rotation... haha...
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>>737610295
>Wol is main focus again
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>>737610214
Ah I see, I'm curious if for BLM one mode will be more immobile than the other, and if so which
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>>737610408
>not being excited for rehashing the same shit is not an argument
Slurp up that slop.
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>>737609634
TPD
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>>737610331
more and more of the normal people have digested and discussed the changes shown in the keynote. only /vg/ will still be in these threads after tomorrow. time to leave.
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>viking norse whatever squiggly designs and ice.

Sure but what about the viking roes on teh source or will we get a small fuck you part in 8.3 back just for those vikings compared to the 8.0 ice planet?
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>>737610417
Yes the Wol is the main focus again.
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>Everbald

https://youtu.be/8fc9ywRA5NU?si=9b2Absl56G0Xputg
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They really are going the shard hopping route. How dull.
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>>737610226
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>>737610173
Hell yeah brother, we're bringing back blood pacts.
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Qrd on the new combat system?

Are they finally tackling the 25+ buttons to press hideous system
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>>737610410
It's about as deep as pvp jobs, which makes sense because it's the same guy making them. Fewer buttons, more procs, shorter CDs.
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LALAFELL ARE REAL

I'M NOT CRAZY
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>>737610448
you gullible idiot
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>>737610448
don't speak so soon
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>>737610493
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>>737610461
These faggots ruined beards
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evercrap
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>>737610445
All that remains is brown
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>>737610447
Well you see, the viking roe ancestors also had a key and they traveled to the 4th to escape the ice calamity brought in by the 6th being absorbed...
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>>737610402
>>737610243
We already did Sephirot as a Warring Triad, but there's also the whole norse tree of life alluded to in the trailer, and, well, Sephirot is literally a tree of life thing. It's entirely possible to stumble into a Sephiroth situation as the Fourth's equivalent to that nightmare mess.
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The doomtroons are really assblasted. Must have been a great showing today they are spamming their seethe on cooldown.
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>Neversold
>Evercuckold
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is xivcombo now irrelevant
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only watched the trailer
is pve just the pvp kits now?
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>>737610480
Is that the full Inuyasha movie?
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>>737610515
Beards were always cope for chinlets. Men that look good without a beard will not look better with one.
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>>737610295
>>Wol is main focus again
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>>737610514
Preach?
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>>737610545
almost constant spankings for eight straight hours, forced to wait for nighttime hours
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>>737610403
>spot on
Well, I guess that answers that. Usopp job sounds giga gay, but Warden might be cool. Should have called it "Defender", that way they can point at Tactics Advance and say: "It's a legacy job!!"
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>>737610252
>Only one year left until 2027
>FFXVII not even announced yet
>They still need to do 10 more games by the end of next year
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>>737610494
The Wol is the main focus again. He literally told you that on stage and in the trailer. You people have gone so doomer it's just funny now.
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>>737610514
oh I get it! lalafells are potato!
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>>737610514
>>737610579
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Wait they actually fired kate?
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>>737607739
Switch 2 version is going to be big for people that only plan on paying there and Japan
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>>737610573
>That filename
Is this place being raided by discord browns?
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>>737610591
they haven't even finished the shitty 7 Demake trilogy lmao and it will be UE4 in 2027/8
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>>737610605
They kicked her off of localization elsewhere in the company and after that we dunno where she is right now.
You can bet your ass the fanfest starting with Koji talking about bust and ass sliders wouldn't have EVER passed with Kate around.
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>>737610612
Switch 2 version is the replacement for japs still playing on PS4, because they know no one is buying a PS5 in Japan
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>>737610634
that's so pathetic lmao
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FINALLY LESS BUTTONS

FUCK Y'ALL WANTING TO PRESS 30-50 BUTTONS
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>>737610605
Yes and they replaced her with a weeb nigger so the people who would be upset about it aren't even allowed to complain.
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>>737610605
no lol
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>>737610605
She's just suspiciously absent and quiet. We probably won't get hard confirmation unless she either shows up or we get to the 8.0 credits and she isn't there
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>>737610605
there's no confirmation, but they either told her to keep her mouth shut and took her completely out of the spotlight, or she's gone
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I kinda with the whole expansion was just the WoL, Alphinaud and Estinien like the old days but I just know they are gonna show all the other Scions in future trailers.
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>>737610540
oh okay so a dungeon for some macguffin instead i see.
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>EVANGELION Raid

are you fucking serious?
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>>737610605
We don't know. There's been no word of her not even of Koji and YoshiP saying she couldn't make it to the fanfest because she's hard at work translating the next expansion like they did for Dawntrail fanfests.
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>>737610630
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whens 8.0 out
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I was expecting nothing and was pleasantly surprised. The story looks like it's going to be a return to form and I'm actually optimistic for evolved mode considering who's in charge of doing it.
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alliance raid leaks
highly confidential
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>>737610612
I have all the consoles + PC and none of that beats playing on the go, in bed, shitting, etc , add F14 and perfection
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>>737610596
>you people

you're the gullible retard here
paying to play this fucking trash
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>>737610724
It's retarded. They have to shrink the evas/angels or every single boss is a wall fight
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>Woooooooaahhh
>*clap clap clap*
We arr removing buttons and making everything more accessible
>Woooooohoooo
>*clap clap clap*
Actual golem event
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Why does this game still need a sub

Why isnt the game completely FREE until say Dawntrail
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>>737610115
Dragoon is a little harder for me to comment on than Paladin since I don't play dragoon although I did get it to 50 but don't remember it that well, but they say dragoon is a lot more changed than Paladin was and a lot of that does sound pretty cool, I know especially people have been clamoring for proper jumps, but the dragoon showcase made me ask a question the PAL one didn't, at what level do you get all these abilities, I can only assume the big jump for dragoon has to be level 50 for being so iconic to it but in general what will having less abilities mean for leveling, will things be super backloaded or will earlier levels be super bland? I'm still iffy on single button combos too
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>>737610734
January
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I just want Ryne and Gaia to come back
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holy fucking shit why are all S9 themed clothings so fucking garbage? they could've just aped the designs from phantasy star games
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>>737610596
I BELIEVE THE YELLOW MAN LOL
PRETEND DT NEVER HAPPENED
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>>737610797
that far way okay
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>>737610790
Oh also I wonder if the jump will mean anything for fights with gaps in them, although I suppose for most such fights the gaps are too large to bridge in that
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>>737610232
Yes anon, that's the point of the post, I'm glad you can see. You and the other dimwits are going to cry desperation no matter what any of it was.

Very funny stuff if I do say so.
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>>737610724
yeah pisses me off honestly
has nothing to do with ff or se
its literal desperation for attention
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>>737610332
Western ((((consulting))) exist to make sure japanese fail so they can buy their company for cheap. Notice how namco also made their own Forspoken and Sega had that awful hyena. Those games are poison to ruin those companies
Capcom is lucky it's ips are strong but you can tell the brutal downgrade from their female characters, sf6 probably has the ugliest female characters from a fighting game (maybe after modern mk)
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>>737610739
I am unironically looking forward to ragnarok.
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>Main Tank
>Actions counter enemy attacks
>Off Tank
>Skilled at lowering damage taken by allies and lowering enemy damage
>But PLD still has all of its bonus tools that make it better at lowering damage on allies
>DRK's entire shtick is counter attacking via TBN

huh
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>>737610837
It won't. You'll instantly die if you go over a hole just like every other movement ability.
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doomsissies lost
hopeGAWDS won
doomsissies must report to my chambers IMMEDIATELY for their mandatory rape session, since they seem so fond of getting completely RAPED
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>Evolvedchads also get full kit by level 50 so dungeon syncing won't be an issue for the most part
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>the devs actually listened and did things players have been asking for for years that means they are desperate
That or they woke up. I don't give a shit what their mindset is as long as it's good and Evercold looks great thus far.
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>>737610879
idiot
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>>737610764
The only people going to these events are die hard fans. Who the fuck is going to pay money to go booooo a trailer?
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reminder
know your place
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>>737610879
autism on display
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>>737610897
Based no more button clutter and more engaging action abilites
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>>737608116
I get it's just a teaser, but I got fucking nothing out of this. No intrigue whatsoever. No reason to care.
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>>737610905
>they listend

they still havent benched alisaie.
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>>737610880
TBN goes on the MAIN tank, drksissy
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>>737610332
Corpos are apparently only capable of learning by touching the stove until it hospitalizes them
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>>737610897
>crystal tower with full kit
holy shit finally
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>>737610897
>full kit by level 50
You get all the base buttons but not all the follow up actions and bonus effects.
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>>737610891
DoomKINGS just saved your game. The only reason any of these changes happened is because we refused to settle for mediocrity. Go back and think hard on all the times you tried to tell us that job homogeneity wasn't a problem.
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>>737609534
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>>737610931
BENCHED?
Are you mad?
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>>737608116
probably the worst 1/3 so far
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>>737610897
This is probably what's going to really set apart any sort of meta. There's virtually no reason not to go Evolved for roulettes below max level content, especially if the game throws you into ARR shit yet again. Tower of the Ancients is no longer gonna feel like a kneecapped slog.
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>>737609397
I've been saying for over a decade now they need to add these as boss drops and the like, to pad out things we "should" have but don't(missing primals, change Benis back to Stoneskin, etc).
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>250 posts in less than 30 minutes
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>How to get brown schizos to melt down
Wol is the main character for the next expansion.
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>>737610990
HOPECHADS WIN AGAIN
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>>737610949
They actually made a male Au Ra that looks cool. Incredible achievement.
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>>737608116
I'm loving the post-DT content but this was severely underwhelming.
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>>737610938
Yay, we can beat Crystal Tower even faster now
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>>737610660
I don't think having more buttons is better, especially in healer and tank kits where a lot of buttons basically do similar things but on different cooldowns, but it genuinely feels like they just gutted half the kit of each job and consolidated the remaining buttons without really adding meaningful gameplay to replace the things that are gone, the only possible exception being dragoon and that's because current Dragoon is as straightforward and railroaded as their polearm so the only way to go is up. WHM in particular just looks fucking dire "oh we have different animations for when you press glare" thanks?
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>>737610949
They're sacrificing maidens so that the eternal winter doesn't freeze the tree they're living on.
Take that to the bank
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>>737610960
That says "Hugh buy Diana sum mcdonald" btw
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>>737611005
>70yr old dresses liek a teenager from 2001

why are nips like this?
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>>737611020
??? you're getting less buttons thoughbeit
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>>737611005
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>>737610990
New announcements for any game tend to get super busy threads even in the dead of night, shitposting or not. Just look at the literal month of Resident Evil Requiem.
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>>737611028
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>>737610041
I thought this after EW, but shit just keeps coming
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>>737610961
They said you can swap between Reborn and Evolved whenever you're out of combat, so maybe if they let us have fun then we'll be able to change between every single encounter in a dungeon or raid
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>>737610931
Sorry they're keeping my wife around for me.
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>>737610960
WE NEED A DIANA MINION
FUCK MONSTER HUNTER
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>>737610990
The nintendo effect
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>>737609793
This will never happen because they might accidentally make it fun and they can't allow that.
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>>737610905
>>the devs actually listened
wheres my tall femra
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if evolved does more damage is easier and more fun

why even have the old one
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they unironically made every class just press 1 button from here on out. and the audience was cheering and applauding this
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>>737609850
soul
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>>737611007
HOPE and BELIEVE
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>>737608116
I feel zero hype for this from a story perspective, but the content might be good.
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>>737611053
Thank you based poster
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You WILL wear the plugsuit at all times Anon.
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>>737611090
>why even have the old one
For autists and balancetroons who can't accept change.
They don't know it yet, but they will be forced to kneel. Or they'll die.
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>>737611090
So that people don't melt down when they log in in January and half their buttons are gone
That's literally all it is
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Rhitahtyn shirt isn't the tank job, because people are thinking dual shields for the tank but it's actually dual guns for the gunner job
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I clocked out of the story at like heavensward
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wait, so Evolved mode is... contextual action changes?
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>>737611091
ah yes, one button, like how i play most games for my basic combo
like, y'know, kingdom hearts, final fantasy vii remake shit, god of war, final fantasy xv or xvi, etc
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>>737610934
If I know anything about how this game goes, MT is going to end up being the cuck role and no one wants it.

Double OT is likely going to be superior.
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>>737610990
Hopers hoping and doomers dooming
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>game design for the modern gamer
>adds a battle pass
can't make this shit up
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Haragin status?
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>>737611091
You can just duplicate the Evolved skill onto your 1, 2, 3 hotbar and pretend like you're playing Reborn
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keeping Reborn around is some half assed shit, just get rid of it
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>>737611106
why would u post that webm
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>>737610949
Wouldn't surprise me if there is some circularity here because that's Ishikawa's forte.
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>>737611090
It's a "soft sunsetting". It will be phased out and removed entirely. People most likely have 8.0 to 9.0 to keep it but it's over. Evolved is already superior anyway.
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>>737611137
Its xivcombo basically
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>>737610295
do you realize how retarded you sound?
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>>737611161
honest to god accident
meant to post this one
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>>737611031
dude wears $50k rings
rich people are weird
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>>737611161
To get v& for spoilers
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>>737611159
They don't want balancetrannies to DDoS their servers for the next 9 months
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>>737610660
Tanks and Healer will probably stay the same, just their buttons rolled into one.

DPS jobs seem to get a complete PvP style overhaul.
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>>737610949
Malera is Odin, He's only got 1 eye.
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>>737611202
whoa is he really that loaded?
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>>737610660
>Y'ALL
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>>737611225
>DPS jobs seem to get a complete PvP style overhaul.
the game should have had this done 2 expansions ago
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>>737611187
>honest to god accident
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>2 minute meta killed entirely
>parsetrannies absolutely bubbling and boiling all over social media and the balance discord
>solved button bloat while restoring class identity and interesting skill combinations
I don't see a single loss here. It's all wins.
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*hits pipe*
It's pretty clear the only people mad about evolved mode are transvestites.
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How do i fix tanxiety if all i want to play is story shit
Can i just play without subbing
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>>737611260
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"Wanderer", huh?
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ff14 everflop
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>>737611185
>You like the game that is story heavy for it's story
>"do you know how retarded you sound"
I truly wonder how people like you view FF14?
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>>737611298
tankxiety isn't real
why would you feel anxiety over being in control

fucking pussy cunt
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>>737610605
Alongside almost everyone from the el segundo team. they cleaned house after disastertrail
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WARsissies are melting down on a level I haven't seen in a long time.
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>>737611225
They specifically said pld and whm were some of the least changed.
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>>737611326
Because if i make a mistake everyones gonna be angry or we wipe or something
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Plugsuits.
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>>737611305
Wanderer is the Wol, it's his ancient purpose as the 'Wanderer'.
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WHEN ARE THEY MAKING GUNBREAKER A DPS CLASS
>b-but
SHUT UP THIS CLAS SHOULD'VE BEEN A DPS CLASS FROM THE START NOT AN OFFTANK BULLSHIT FUCK
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>>737611346
who cares they're just a bunch of trannies anyway
literally just say "hi first time tanking" and you're fine
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>>737611152
they added a batlte pass in endwalker anon
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>>737611337
Because they realized their job is going to get more complex. If they want every job to have 16~ buttons they're going to have to add some to WAR.
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>>737611020
>but it genuinely feels like they just gutted half the kit of each job
You're not actually losing anything. In fact, the most they seem to be cutting are literally redundancies like extra mitigations that don't fit in the list alongside the ones they already have. Combine that with contextual usage and combining certain actions together and I'd argue that the only difference overall is how much information you have to parse at any given moment. These actions are just chaining together all the pre-existing stuff and tweaking as need be.
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>>737611339
I hope they make the OT Jobs interesting. If it was just normal tanks but without the parry gimmick it'd be a little boring.
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>>737611352
oh gee it would be a shame if we wandered right into the reflection of a certain someone
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>>737611382
Squall and Seifer are SORCERESS KNIGHTS, they're tanks.
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>>737611339
They just straight up killed selene in cold blood, she's fucking dead
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not trying to be a downer but the guitar seems like they're trying to redo endwalker
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>>737611337
>>737611397
>war
>complex
>evolve mode
dense much? single and aoe 3 button combos are now 1 single button if ANYTHING theyre getting less buttons
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>>737611337
they do that every expansion
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>>737611350
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>>737611397
Nah it's all about not being main tank anymore. They're actually fuming at levels previously unheard of that they won't get to be the main character in the party.
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>>737611337
DT Tank tier list the entire expac has been: PLD/DRK > GNB > WAR.
So I don't know why they're just now getting upset.
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Did PLD still have the AoE combo? I haven't seen it on their bars.
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>>737611408
I wouldn't hate it.
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>>737611138
>>737611154
ok barry you wanna play like this
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>>737611471
>DT Tank tier list the entire expac has been: PLD/DRK > GNB > WAR.
war had self heals out the ass thoughebti
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>>737610612
>jewtendo tax for portability
gaben I kneel
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>>737611397
SIXTEEN INDIVIDUAL FELL CLEAVES
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>>737611396
i have been so out of the loop, god damn. only poked my head in because of people talking about job revamps, but that immediately stuck out.
i don't see it as a selling point, desu but whatever
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>>737611138
kingdom hearts is based because the same button does different things depending on your position, the position of your opponent and your ability setup
wish more games were like KH2
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>>737611487
Those self heals are only useful in dungeons and in dungeons it doesn't really matter what you play, you could successfully tank and beat every dungeon in the game without a job stone.
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https://youtu.be/lYbkFXWBcCw?si=19BoemnmEmAEW7CW

>it's gotta be called "regular word"
i hate wowfags so much

that being said evercold sounds like some wow shit
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>>737610949
ITS JUST THE SAME SKELETONS FROM TEH CGI. ITS NOTHING
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I will main WAR again if its playstyle returns to that of Heavensward era STR accessory tanking. That is the most fun Warrior ever was and it has been downhill ever since.
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>>737611471
Some tanks are retarded and want to be "the main", because they assume the boss hitting them means something. Its the kind of heros that provoke 24man raids or OC despite other tanks ripping aggro of them because they are doing more damage.
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>>737610790
seems white mage has a 2 part primary attack button now, that's cool, still wish it was 2 buttons though, losing the spin is a shame but they did mention skill reskins so there might still be hope there, also I really would have preferred the second (or first) basic attack to bring back some of that conjurer elemental feeling, the spin I am fairly confident will be an option with the skill reskins, elemental stuff seems a lot less likely
Removal of cast time from WHM basic attack is cool for WHM but bodes ill for BLM I feel
aquaveil and benison being consolidated is fucking weird but I guess it makes more sense from a leveling perspective, you start with one shield and then as you level up you can add a second shield to it
I'm a little confused though because the placeholder UI still says something about lilys but lilys seem to be gone in favor of the new sanctity thing, maybe that's just to remind testers that this is indeed the replacement for lilys

also it looks like cure 1 is gone, which yeah it was a bit of a meme but i'll miss it, and it can have a little value as a panic oh shit damage is about to go out button with casting faster than cure 2, but still maybe that rare use isn't worth having to deal with sprouts using it as their main heal
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genuinely how are people excited for Evercrap?
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>>737609029
On the plus side: PvP Scholar is fun in the frantic battles and this is the PvP designer. Fingers crossed.
On the negative side: SMN has gotten the belt every single expansion and healers in general has been the red-headed stepchild nobody wanted to have anything to with and every question about them was either met with buzzwords or silence.
Id' say it can only go up from here but I've been burned before.
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>>737610295
browns not understanding that Final Fantasy 14 is a story focused MMO and getting mad at this post because Anon enjoys the game for it's story and nothing else is so fucking funny.
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>>737611546
>only useful in dungeons
and trials
and raids
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I watched the keynote and fell in love...
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>>737611437
that's what I thought

>>737611548
he's a retard
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>>737611487
Yeah.
Thats basically worthless on a Tank in anything that matters.
% Mit and Shield HP are vastly superior to Regen.
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>>737610949
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>>737611573
If you stayed subbed to Dawntrail you'll play anything
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Onion Knight and Corsair
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>>737611605
facts
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>>737611592
what is that choker
asking for a friend
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>>737611573
Because of it coming to switch
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>>737611592
I don't want humans running around with inhuman skin colors (not that way you fucking bigots), at least lock wacky colors behind like a level 20 quest for some fancy spell or makeup
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>>737611592
>we are actually nearing those fucking imvu modbeast styles
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>>737611591
They aren't useful in savage, normal trials an raids are a joke you get through on autopilot. The rankings were about savage raiding.
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>>737611407
Dark Knight really can't just copy its PVP identity like PLD did and call it a day. They're going to have to do something to it.
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>EVA crossover
>Not Thunderbolt Fantasy
A missed opportunity
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>>737611573
>no more tural
>evercold land doesn't look like a direct analog to some real world turdworld country
>job overhaul being handled by the chad that handled the pvp job overhaul
>WoL is the focus
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>>737611634
ahh ok that explains it
seamonkeys rejoice lol
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>>737611596
>Thats basically worthless on a Tank in anything that matters.
how are slef heals wrothless when WAR was in a lot of time the only guy alive chipping a boss down
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>>737610949
Maybe that actually is Y'shtola's reflection? The lil Aura girl also grew up with an old crone and seemed to be very interested in history.
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>>737611031
ironically japanese don't get to dress like this as teenagers
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Estinien being great as always
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>>737611684
>DT lowered the standards this much
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>>737611686
I'm likely the only 1 hyped and from France
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>>737611710
kek
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>>737611690
self healing doesn't matter because I said so
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>>737609170
We've only seen WHM with subject to change. The gist of it: Insta cast glares, in return less ogcds and more casted heals. They kept specifying they wanted to keep WHM simple. So of course can promise more stuff to do on SCH, AST and SGE, but keep hopes firmly tempered. We are now in the seventh year of Healer enshittificaiton and it can both get better and worse.
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>>737611548
Fuck him and fuck every single one of those cunts in those comments all saying
"We're so back!"
"HAHA GOODBYE DAWNTRAIL YOU SUCK!"
"Yep Dawntrail is over and forgotten and that's a good thing"

Him and his audience were the biggest dick riders for Dawntrail and would shout down any criticism of that expansion and now they've forgotten that, they're already acting like Dawntrail was shit, something people were saying all along.

I fucking hate people like Preach and his audience.
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>your logs no longer depend on others buffs lining up
>parsinggers sperg out

why is this?
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>>737611693
I'm more concerned about the girl getting fucking disappeared
norse lore chads, are there any important cases of sacrifices? outside of Baldur, I guess
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>>737611686
lmao wtf is that webm
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>>737611753
Who the fuck plays this game to 'parse'? Must have to be the biggest faggot alive to do that. KEK
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>>737609870
>every fight won't be paced identically
>every job won't play the exact same
still yet to be seen, both dps jobs were literally just "press things on cd"
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XIV might be saved
only problem is now i have to force myself through the tranny furry story arc to catch up before jan
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>>737611707
I swear there was a gigachad pic like this
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>>737611548
>Evercold
its a bit of a weird title for english.
The japanese looks like its Wanderer, Seeker of Silver.
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>>737611739
I mean for fuck's sake WHM was already simple. Everyone, raiders, casuals, every single person that plays and played it calls it the braindead healer, and you STILL get people who just spam the bottom level Cure 1 hoping to fish for the freebie luck. This isn't a change or simplification, this is a sidegrade.
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>>737611209
>spoilers

brother that shit was obvious the moment u start
but somehow it still hits pretty fucking hard
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>"A week ago I had this great idea to play the Switch 2 on stage and Nintendo kind of freaked out a little, they were like 'what!' but they coop"A week ago I had this great idea to play the Switch 2 on stage and Nintendo kind of freaked out a little, they were like 'what!' but they cooperated and helped out so much to make this happen."
Nintenjew fears the game crashing or dropping frames during live presentation
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>>737611798
nigga every job is "press things on cd"
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>>737611676
One day brother... one day
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DRG had a stacking damage buff with no timer on it, so the longer a fight goes on the more cracked DRG is gonna get.
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>>737611749
agreed
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>>737611707
>teleports to another reality
>some weird ass crystal thing filied up to him
>he just runs at it and kicks it right away
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>>737611690
Every tank can already do that. But in higher end content WAR frequently hits its head on the ceiling of its terrible mit game.

Regen all the HP you want, it doesn't save you from tank busters that do more than your health bar in damage.
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>>737611749
he's a soulless shill whore
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Is there a way to see which side story dungeons and whatnot you should do before advancing to the next expansion?
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>>737611882
Dude has never seen the outside of expert roulette, so he argues that tank self healing matters.
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>scions when you tell them about the new plan
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>>737611482
ff14 requires less buttons
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will there be new scion outfits?
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>>737608116
surprised at all the mean replies to this. i think the trailer looked incredible it made me tear up i love this game sm
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>>737611843
yes and thats why ffxiv combat design is shallow and boring and the evolve "revamp" wont fix it
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Calling it, bets are in:
GNB: DPS OT, some party MIT and debuffs on the enemy but other than that basically a sturdy, blue DPS
DRK: Shielding OT, gets to toss TBN around, gets an AoE version of it, can sacrifice his health for allies
WAR: Healing nigga that just heals by being angry at getting cucked
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>>737611819
I never really considered that the Japanese have different names for the expansions
some are cooler, some are silly
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>>737611005
I can't believe the obsession to have the player character sit on the cuck chair from gachatards finally manage to reach even xiv
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>>737611852
Probably a WIP oversight, but it would be funny if there's actual benefits to certain DPS beyond outright buff skills like a gradual self-buff gain.
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>>737611852
Those are spent to use Wyrmwind
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>>737611954
no SE are lazy af
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>>737611961
you could probably describe most video games as "press things on cd"
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>>737611965
>Jet-Black Villains
You know what, I'll take the American names on this one, I may be sour grapes about Knight to Paladin but some JP names are pretty retarded.
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I like the music because it reminds me of Chris Cornell and Soundgarden. Story-wise I'm not interested though.
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>>737611831
Yeah, it sucks. Both with Sage and this expansion was perfect time to introduce "Baby's first healer" or just buff Conjurer so that it is simple yet powerful if you don't want complexity.
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>>737611749
Dawntrail only sucked because of the story, the real problems started in heavensward with the jobs still being barebones template slop.
You retards catastrophize so fucking much I can't ever take you guys seriously, Dawntrail was maybe 10% worse than EW, which was already bad and only saved by its story.
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>>737612005
Found the jet-black villain.
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>>737612059
most people only play for the story
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>haha guys remember the floating islands from the good expansion
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>>737610331
Quick reminder as the thread dies that you lost. :)
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>>737612001
and? doesnt make it good, thoughtful design
wow just added a dps spec with literally 4 buttons that has more thoughtful and skill expressive gameplay than what they showed with evolved brd and drg
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>>737612065
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>people saying hurr it's only 1/3

fuck off you absolute sucks

hw/shb/ew all had amazing 1/3s
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>>737612121
what?
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>>737612081
Yeah, but combat shit like evolved and the level sync should've been in the game in SHB. Combat has been painfully shit for way too long.
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>>737612096
Sphene should've joined the scions...
Why the fuck is she a queen again? nuAlex don't even need one anymore
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>>737612121
agreed
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>>737611638
>I don't want humans running around with inhuman skin colors (not that way you fucking bigots)
41%
rope it up now, let's go
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wait
>the things in the fourth are apparently depicting dragons
>dragons came AFTER the sundering and didn't exist naturally on the world prior
midgarsomr what did your dick shoot out into reality
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>>737612005
>the jp names are retarded
a translation does not mean that it's the jp name
unless you're native in japanese you wouldn't know if it sounds good or not
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>>737612142
it's the weakest teaser u retard
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>>737612154
She will be joining in Everwolves. Trust the plan, keep the faith.
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>>737612005
I always thought blackest traitors fit more as a translation for that.
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>>737612172
They're obviously just snakes and they were teasing a bit saying dragons
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>rpr shows up
>people scream Zero
>NOPE
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Should I watch Evangelion?
All I know is that it's about some dumb jailbait kids having robot battles with god
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>>737612202
They're clearly jormungandr who is probably a trial.
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>>737612172
There are dragon-like scalekin on the First and Ninth, so it could just be that.
However, Middy was sleeping inside the Lifestream for a long time and we know there's a very thin connection to all the shard Lifestreams. So maybe he visited or something.
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>>737612218
they screamed zenos
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>>737612218
kek why would that nobody show up
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>>737612237
No. Its shit that people pretend is deep because its got a retarded artsy ending.
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>>737612202
>>737612172
This is all Ragnarok related symbolism
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>>737612237
You shouldn't be posting on this website if you haven't watched Eva.
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>>737612240
Woke Lemutt in person
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>>737611954
in trusts, probably
DT had summer skins, so maybe EC will have comfy winter ones
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>EW was good actually!
you niggers were legit sperging about her being hirois donut steel mary sue and calling the void SQ trash. God I hate you fake faggots so much.
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evercold sounds so fucking lane
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>>737612285
I fucking knew this would come back, I forgot about this one
It used to get posted pretty frequently
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>>737612240
>whoop lefat
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>>737612286
I haven't watched Eva in 20+ years and I quit Rebuilds after the second one. It's overrated.
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>>737612301
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>>737612301
whole game peaked with Meteion let's be real
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>>737612237
It's ok, but incredibly overrated
Watch this instead
>>737612286
Forced edge
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>>737612218
RPR is such a bad choice for an expansion because you just know we aren't going to get any cool enshrouding for the CG stuff. Just Bloodborne cosplay.
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>>737612305
should've been Permafrost lmao
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>>737612301
Base EW was okay. Patch cycle once Zero took the focus went to absolute shit. But the REAL problem of EW was how bloody fuckin' empty the patch cycle was in its content, and how disposable and nothingburger what content we did get was. Combine that with the extended schedule periods of more dev time and it just made EW a nightmare slog where nothing was very appealing after the first patch. We just didn't know how much worse it would get with DT.
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>>737612351
>ewwww not blood eeewww it's too edgy!
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>>737611569
Bard I don't properly play but I can comment on a little bit more than Dragoon since i've been poking at leveling it a bit recently (I got it to 50 the same time I got dragoon to 50 but i've pushed it to around 70 in recent months)
the overhaul to songs themselves sounds great
I was worried when they first showed the bard and I couldn't see the Dots but it seems they're still there, I was thinking maybe they would do like the WHM shield and make you cast both DOTs at once which would have been pretty lame, the double tap on dots is a really cool thing about bard so i'm glad my fears are unfounded, I still don't know about it being tied to one of the songs partially for theming of opening the fight and partially for leveling, does that mean you won't get a DOT until you become a bard at level 30? Venomous Bite is a level 6 ability, maybe before you become a bard you will get some sort of gimped version of the song that only opens up the DOT attacks, like a prepare poison ability.
and then it's the same for AOE's a preparatory ability makes even less sense pre job stone
the dodge move attack thing is super cool, but also what the fuck is that camera centered on enemy thing? is that only for that ability or a new thing or something I have somehow missed all these years?
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>>737612237
>should I watch the most important piece of media to ever come out of Japan in all 40,000 years of its history
gee, I dunno man, it's your call
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>>737612350
based
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>>737612286
This, it's the origins of the site founders waifu and therefore you need to watch it
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>>737612351
This is too high brow for the average /v/irgin.
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>>737612005
I liked how "Hangyakusha" was used a lot during dialogues.
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>hating on Reaper
It's had a hard life
Let it have some time in the limelight
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>>737610447
We're never going anywhere in the source again because it's easier to just make extreme shard worlds and call it a day.
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>>737612301
no way, I've always liked her
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You know, I'm not seeing any auto-attacks in the Evolved footage. I half wonder if it's partly so Evolved players don't feel disconnected from their actions as much, or if that's a WIP thing. It does mean they absolutely have to keep up on rotations or they'll let damages slip away.
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>>737612405
>sloppa
now gen a fat Krile
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can't wait for the Fire Shard in 9.0
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>>737612351
Idk why but every time the woman doctor raped him I felt sad , in fact he was always getting raped now that I think about it, the woman from the arena was raping him too.
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>>737612443
RPR in the last part of DT felt like a very fitting job for what was going on and I've been playing through it from start to finish.
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Shards were a mistake
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>>737612301
I liked Zero until she stopped being fedora-tipping equivalent trades autist.
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>>737612478
He may have just disabled them globally since the enemy doesn't auto either.
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I skipped Yawnfail's patches. Were the FF11 raids any good?
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>>737612492
everhot
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>Eagle at the top
>Serpent underneath
>Calyx is wearing a cute squirrel outfit for some reason
Yggdrasil reference?
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>>737612390
He's asking about eva, not dbz.
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trailer didn't get me excited at all
i don't give a fuck about the au ra autist or femboy who is now a squirrel

just give me more good gameplay
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>>737612565
They're okay.
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Base EW = Good
Base SHB = Amazing
Base SB = Great
Base ARR = Can't really rank this
Base DT = Boring and bad

I don't hate DT as much as some schizos in here, or wuk or kate, but base DT was just fucking boring. The dungeons fucking sucked, the bosses felt really bad and uninspired besides the post game ghost place.
The story was fucking boring Wuk from the trailer seemed like a confidant cool type, instead she was a retarded shonen protag.
The worst part is that it was all just boring, the story had no right being that fucking unbearably boring. I thought we'd do cool stuff in solution 9 but that was a wash too and didn't make much sense.
All in all DT is definitely the worst expansion so far as a base game, post patch with arcadion was great.
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>>737612578
>pic

my sides
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>>737612574
Halibut is the exdeath ascian.
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>>737612606
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NO MORE GODS
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>>737612565
It had two good fights (omega/ultima and Kam'Lanaut) and the other fights had some good aesthetics, but beyond that it was meh.
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>>737612351
imagine recommending texhnolyze in the very same sentence you call something else overrated
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>>737612350
I'm a bit sad my va autism ruined meteion's evil transformation because I knew from her voice that she's the big bad.
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>>737612628
How is Technolyze overrated? No one ever talks about it.
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>>737612565
If you like XI they're fun, it's mostly like a tourism thing disguised as a raid. The first month or so the raids were a bit challenging, by now though people are bored by the repetition. Final one comes out this Tuesday.
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>>737612578
you will always be a pedophile
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>even Zelpa is pretending to be hype

i hate the parasites so much
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>>737612470
Look at that dumbass grin
I said I'd miss her in 6.5 and I wasn't kidding, I wanna see her again too
>>737612507
Yeah, I'll probably do the MSQ quests on Reaper too
I have a soft spot for the job even though it has some flaws, I'm glad it's tied to Dragoon
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So, did they deliver the promised revamped/rework? They've been hyping it up as ARR 2.0.
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>>737612351
What the fuck Im watching this right now.
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>>737612697
>So, did they deliver the promised revamped/rework?
Yes and it's more kino than we ever dared dream.
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>>737612697
Yes. Its the reasone every parse tranny is currently melting down.
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>>737612565
believe it or not somehow it's even more "out of place" than the fucking nier raid
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>>737612702
Your post was the 666th post in this thread btw
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>>737612628
The word you are looking for is "underrated"
>>737612702
I hope you're able to get something out of it, it's an acquired taste
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>>737612673
Just ignore her
>>737612697
We'll have to see, BRDfags on the balance were having a melty over
>THREE SECOND DOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the dodge shot being a GCD.
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>>737612697
yes im having a blast right now
>>737612574
that's ratatoskr
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>>737612737
I can only assume the DoT timers weren't final because single tick DoTs make no sense.
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John Dawntrail looks kinda cool, John Evercold on the other hand looks lame af
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>saves your game
KNEEL
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gear just feels so pointless. whats the point of the relic weapon when its not useful for prog at all? and its final iteration comes out like 3 months before the next expac. SO WHATS THE POINT?? also what even is occult crescent i thought this shit was for the relic but no the relic is just a separate thing inside the phantom village i already got a 775 weapon and only stepped foot into that OC place once
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>>737612761
should've looked more bloodborne-y I guess
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>>737612727
I don't understand the hate. I love raiding and I like parsing good numbers but what's wrong with the change? They'll design new fights to complement the change anyway. You'll still get the same feeling from beating bosses and seeing pretty numbers.
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GOD BLESS SOVLMERICA
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>>737612846
They deleted all raidbuffs.
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>>737612842
The entire trailer is kind of generic and lame, the actual slides with the zones generated more hype for me. Not sure what the director was thinking.
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>>737612672
?
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>>737612846
they are removing the crutch of party buffs so geting high numbers will be more of a personal responsibility. this enrages the parsefags
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>>737612887
I guess they're trying to play everything safe for now
understandably
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>>737612672
where the fuck did that come from you tranny
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>>737612946
pedos love projecting/deflecting
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>>737612885
>>737612924
So people are mad they can't pad the numbers by getting hard pocket anymore? That's hillarious.
I think the new way is more fun and competitive.
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So if I quit after finishing Heavensward and get back on August, it would be like if I actually never stoped? Or did the combat changed more than that?
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>>737611573
SEAniggers love gachas
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>>737612873
>everyone is overweight
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>>737612846
>Raidbuffs delete
>Further simplification
>Yoshida admitted on-screen that one rotation mode will have higher fflogs numbers than the other
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>>737612846
1. Autists hate change and parsetrannies are all autistic as all trannies are.
2. They spent all their time getting good at one thing (pressing buttons when they came off cooldown) and now it's dead along with all the clout they gained from doing a fight until random crits gifted them with a pink parse.
3. Each job is going to play differently meaning they'll actually have to learn the intricacies of a job to play it. This combined with:
4. Jobs having unique strengths means they sometimes may have to switch off their one and only favorite job in order to be optimal (nobody will force them to switch off, but much like the poopsockers of MMOs past their autist parsetranny brain will not allow them to make a suboptimal choice).
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>>737612846
>Remove slashing and piercing debuffs because of too much composition autism
>Make composition autism worse by forcing every job to apply by buff sluts rules
What the fuck were they even thinking?
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>>737612994
This was like 5 years ago I meant, will I not experience the combat changes?
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>>737613015
what about what they showed makes you think 3 or 4 are even slightly true?
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>>737612819
anon, relic weapons are just glamours since stormblood.
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>>737612729
Im not saying Im sacrifcing a goat right now while watching it.

>>737612736
Yes, this is right up my alley.
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so what do you guys think this is? looks a lot like reaper obviously but i dont think they would make reaper the main "canon" job for the trailer. its usually teasing one of the new jobs right?
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>>737613134
Watch the presentation again, bud. DRG has Diamondback available every minute.
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>>737613241
Bruh it's Reaper. They can't make it any more clear
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>>737613241
>i dont think they would make reaper the main "canon" job for the trailer
why not
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>>737613241
jawlight of light
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>>737613241
retard
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>>737613241
No. WoL has only been a new ob in 1.5 trailers. Sam for part of SB and vpr in DT.
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>>737612379
Killing the 2 minute meta is a great change, the stress of potentially fucking it up was just too great for me, all the other reasons they gave for ditching it make sense too
explicit main tank and off tank split is a cool idea, I just hope they don't go too far with it. more specifically if it matters for savage that's good, if it matters for extreme and maybe the new in between raid tier that's bad, they only said savage and ultimate so I'm gonna be optimistic on this
I'm surprised both that paladin is a main tank and warrior is an off tank, but i'll trust the devs judgement on this

Overall I'm gonna say these changes sound mostly pretty good, I'm not a fan of the single button combos but I suspect i'm in the minority here and almost everything else sounds great
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>>737613241
please be Bait
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>>737613174
>since Stormblood
Since Second Coil
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>>737613241
He'll switch to the new tank job for the next two parts of the trailer.
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>over 700 posts

dead game apparently
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So these two battle modes, some job is going to have completely fucked balance between the modes right?
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Who the fuck wants this shit?
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>>737612873
imagine the smell
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I hope they're gonna make boss fights faster with the new job design. Most high level raids have those phases where the boss does jack shit slowly casting their next mechanic while the party just wails on them like it's a training dummy.
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>>737613378
There were like 6 straight 1500 post threads yesterday.
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>>737612492
>>737612571
blackdesert
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>>737613292
>Watch the presentation again, bud.
Imagine how much of a fat ugly trailer trash faggot you have to be to talk like this
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yay more shitty slide mechanics
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>>737613412
>1500

what the fuck
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>>737613389
The new ones are all stronger. Reborn only exists to keep people from freaking out day 1. It will be removed in 9.0.
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>>737613015
>3 and 4
Going to laugh so fucking hard when this isn't the case at all. These devs baby their players because they're snowflakes, every job will be the same so no one is left behind.
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healerbros how are you coping?
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>>737613241
Why doesn't Juan Fantasia play mages?
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>January
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Wait, the Eva cross over is the 24 man? I thought it was just an mogstation outfit line or something. This is going to be worse than Nier.
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>>737613473
Because he isn't a bitch Victoream.
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>>737612059
Preach and his audience only played Dawntrail for the story and let's not lies to ourselves here the vast majority of people who play FF14 play for the story first, not everyone but absolutely the majority and definitely Preach and his audience.
Preach himself said numerous times the Dawntrail was a good expansion, his audience defended it, his fat moderator banned anyone in his twitch chat who said anything negative about Dawntrail.
Now they're all acting like Dawntrail was shit all along and that this is what they really wanted from Final Fantasy.
It's the hypocrisy of it all that I hate most of all.
If Preach and his audience got his way with how he was defending Dawntrail, we'd have gotten Dawntrail 2.0 for the next expansion because he was telling the devs it was a good expansion story and Wuk was fine.
The rest of us meanwhile were overwhelmingly negative about the MSQ and characters for Dawntrail, to the point it became impossible for Yoshida and his team to ignore and we were heard, they've given us a more fantastical story and not Dawntrail 2.0.
Yet Preach is acting all happy here for a result he had no hand in playing and was actively trying to sabotage.

Long winded I know but it needed to be said.
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>>737613470
I cant wait for them to condense my rotation of Glare > Glare > Glare down into one button!
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>>737613532
wall bosses
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>>737613292
and how long can they hold it before losing a huge amount of damage?
and if you dont have a drg in the party will you still be able to clear content? (ie its completely superfluous and unnecessary)
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>>737612405
catbox full
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>all the shrieking over this slop

i simply cannot stand this fanbase
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>>737613449
And they weren't even mostly shitposting either. A lot of people STILL have eyes on XIV and have been waiting for the excuse to peek back in.
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>>737613628
just quit the game
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>>737613241
>yfw this isn't the wol
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>>737613241
You lads are over thinking it.

Reaper is an edgy class and the Wol here is doing the Dark Knight Pose from Shadowbringers from the end of the trailer, puts the Great sword over his shoulder and looks up. It's literally a call back to Shadowbringers with both the edgy class Reaper being in place for DarkKnight and the same pose.
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>>737613684
already have :)
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>>737613615
>will you still be able to clear
These are the same retarded freaks who would jump off the arena if they didn't draw a Balance, which is where their trooncord gets its name. Why are you pretending that has ever mattered to them?
And you can hold it for the full minute without overcapping on jumps.
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>>737613684
I don't. I just post in every xiv thread I see.
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>>737613470
I'm hoping that we get to see another healer demo at EU fanfest. I'm interested in how they're going to handle faerie pet actions.
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>>737613412
I don't suppose you can link me to the live thread, I really wanna see the reaction to the eva alliance raids, had I known I probably would have stayed up to watch it live
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>>737613734
then what are you doing in a thread for a game you don't even play?
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>>737613684
no i like the harder content
and i don't talk tot anyone
the fanbase is just cringe
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>>737613707
The guy in the trailer is the WoL.
But the "Farwanderer" they are talking about most likely is another Azem shard
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>>737613241
>>737613725
Evercold is Shadowbringers 2.0.
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>having any faith in this dogshit since the ShB writer left
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>>737613798
is that really zeems lmao what a homo
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>>737613784
The Wanderer they're talking about is the Wol.

>>737613816
Ishikawa didn't leave she's still literally working on the game
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>>737613841
>Ishikawa didn't leave she's still literally working on the game

i heard the same shit with DT
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>>737613841
lol nice cope
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>>737613841
>The Wanderer they're talking about is the Wol.
Unlikely, the "Farwanderer" appeared hundreds of years ago according to the story
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>>737612059
>Dawntrail only sucked because of the story
I came in just days before dawntrail started (didn't even know there was about to be an expansion, and technically I started years ago but left before finishing ARR because I was upset about a black mage change) so I can't really comment much on endwalker changes but going back to my parenthesis dawntrail did further gut black mage with timer removals and extra mobility, and that may have been patches but to some extent 8.0 shares some of the blame for flare star (which I certainly won't say needs removing, just adjusting to allow the player to put out a weaker version if they fail to fully fill the charges in time)
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>>737613890
we can time travel tho.
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>>737613767
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737567935/#q737567935
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>>737613937
Theoretically yes, but I think it would be dumb
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>>737613864
No? It was well known she wasn't writing Dawntrail. It was known that the guy who wrote Werlyt was writing Dawntrail and not Ishikawa.

>>737613890
Did you forget that we're just the current reincarnation of Azem?
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>>737610514
Forced to assume the crown at such a young age, tragic
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How do we reunite the shards without fucking everything up?
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>>737613912
Yeah but if the story was good no one would give a shit, SHB imo ruined way more jobs than DT did during release.
SAM had a totally useless capstone skill that mindbroke balance autist into realizing it was a potency gain if you lined up the server ticks to get the stacks needed to perform it.
And don't even get me started on SB with the WAR, SCH and MCH changes.

I think I personally hate SB more because it started the totally unnecessary and avoidable enshitification of MCH
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>>737614063
Queen never cry
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>>737614085
very carefully
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>>737614085
very carefully and with some more benevolent, less fucked up version of the dimensional fusion thing alexandria did probably
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>>737611350
What would be really cool is if they found an excuse to put some of the heads of states in plugsuits, including the male ones
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>>737614017
so why is she suddenly back now?
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>>737614017
>Did you forget that we're just the current reincarnation of Azem?
There are other Azem shards than us, no?
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If Azem could see the future so far why didn't he just tell his best friends his plan? Instead he let them suffer for ten of thousands of years. Is the man so commit to being an asshole?
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>>737614017
lol nice cope
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>>737614130
So why didnt the ASCIIans just do that?
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>>737613987
thanks
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kate damage controlling hard rn
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>>737614183
Horus Heresy ass sentence.
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>>737614190
because there were 2 unsundered left and the rest are uplifted retards that, with no prior precedent, weren't sure what they were doing. that's the entire point of the first and ninth shard stories, the ascians were still figuring out the rejoining shit so they bumblefucked up bad.
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>>737614190
Emet forgot about his good friend Azem's chalice in the golden city he told WoL to visit, sadly.
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I wonder if the gear part visual removal thing will apply to the machinist ammo box, I never really understood why some people want to get rid of a defining element of your job but there does seem to be a demand for it
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>>737614190
Probably because they can't use the key like we can
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>>737614161
She literally never left she was in a supervising role and wrote some of the role quests in Dawntrail.

>>737614172
Yes, just like in Shadowbringers Ardbert is the shard of Azem in the First, so I'm unsure if the Wol at the end of the trailer, the reaper is really our character or an Azem shard of the 4th.
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>>737614242
because it doesn't change to any weapon for style points and it doesn't really visually do anything interesting, so it's just the same box from the moment you get the job all the way to now and clashes with everything.
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>>737614085
pulling the shards out of their dimension so they can be a planet in our solar system
>how
friendship
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>>737614272
>She literally never left she was in a supervising role and wrote some of the role quests in Dawntrail.

this is some insane cope
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>>737614161
Do you think people just vanish when they aren't in front of you?
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>>737614272
>so I'm unsure if the Wol at the end of the trailer, the reaper is really our character or an Azem shard of the 4th.
They might be trying to mislead us by making us believe the old granny is talking about the character in the trailer, when she's talking about an entirely different incarnation of Azem entirely
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>>737614242
MCH got a taste for removing their gear when gauss barrel was deleted. Now its the lunchbox. Soon enough they'll all be running around limsa naked. The slippery slope is real.
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>>737607739
jap broccoli head

>>737614337
what do you expect from dawntrannies
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>>737614347
she said she was leaving u fucking idiot
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>>737613408
its just gonna be more in out spread stack left right. look forward to it
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>>737614408
don't forget the copetroll
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>>737614373
You could be right, she also has the same exact voice actress in English as Master Matoya, Yshtola's mentor and her face is covered so I'm wondering if she's an au'ra old version/ shard of Yshtola perhaps? Maybe that's too out there but her having the same voice actress as Matoya is interesting at the very least.
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>>737614429
lol she was there the whole time bro
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>>737607739
why are Japanese people so repulsive?
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>>737614347
He's trolling, just ignore him.
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>>737614306
Ah yeah I guess that makes sense
Maybe they will start adding "ammo" box customization instead of removal, I wanna put an anime girl on mine
>>737614386
they will demand to run around naked when they see feral beastmasters doing it
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>>737614443
kek

>>737614483
just ignore him bro
don't come up with an argument sister
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>>737614439
She's got a cat tail so it's not off the table.



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