https://youtu.be/oLEnVmZOgM4?is=SXBywRgvXROvqgrg
>>737607835I agree, but tha game still needs more pve instances that transpire as a reward for extracting. Game will die as pure PvP because that’s for mongoloids.
>>737607835Trvke but it doesn't matter. It's one third of a masterpiece with the 2/3rds not being bad, but straight up missing. Chris Barrett would have saved it.
If it's a masterpiece why are you here trying to convince me instead of playing it and purchasing micro-transactions?
>>737610615STOP NOTICING CHUD
I can’t believe v shilled crimson desert over marathon
>>737610975"You can do anything in this game!!" open world busywork simulator is midwit catnip, and they could spin a heckin BASED culture war slop narrative with it.
>>737610975>>737611029uh oh, twitter tranny melty
>>737611029Ok sure. But don't pretend Marathon isn't a busywork simulator.
>>737611360It is, which is why I don't stress too much over contracts.
>>737610615But I played it every single day since it released
>>737611360How it is busywork simulator?
>>737607835I'm not watching your youtube essay.Also, buy an ad
What a waste of art direction and good musicNot buying live service fomo sloppa
Trvth nuke
>>737610615if its a masterpiece why isn't anyone playing itif its a masterpiece why did it only sell 1 million units
>>737613463Every aaa slopper has its own set of wannabe-influencers attaching themselves to it like leeches, hoping to make it big if the game makes it big.>hey I was here before it was cool now I'm THE [videogame] youtuber, join my discord and follow me on twitter/xThey pretend to be hardcore fans even though it's impossible for that to be on a new IP, and dickride it as hard as they can.
>>737613756It's =/= its That million units sold was a number that came from a disreputable 3rd party whom access journos and legacy media regurgitated to flood the internet with engagement bait, just how they did with the fake budgetYou parrot goyslop by retards because you're retardedThe game is a fucking disaster just stick to the facts
Marathons core problem is paradoxical. It needs the raid and dungeon design chops of Bungie and all they’ve learned from Destiny, but it will also never have that because Bungie thinks it’ll cannibalise Destiny as well as irritate fans. It’s basically the same as a gacha/mmo sequel leaving the previous entry behind and the fanbase being split in half. The game needs to be a Destiny 3, but it never will be. Instead they’ll be chasing strange PvP trends for years with varying success and drop offs.
I gave it a fair shake and I had a blast
I'd rather be a blast-haverthan a butt-blasted
>>737610615I want more people to have fun and play a good gameis that a bad thing?
>>737614590>but it will also never have that because Bungie thinks it’ll cannibalise Destiny as well as irritate fans.I don't think they really care about Destiny 2 anymore. Marathon is now the dev priority.
>>737613756By that logic McDonalds is the best restaurant and Roblox the best video game
>>737611360Huh? Isn’t the main complaint of Marathon that it is too hard? Crimson Desert is an offline MMO filled with busywork quests.
>>737607835But an ad you fucking nigger, this video also sucks, the contracts and upgrade system are not good. Stupid faggot actually trying to pull the “erm people are actually just playing the game wrong, it’s not the games fault!”
>>737616339Well yeah, where's the good game?
>>737621059It's on Steam, Xbox Series or PS5
>>737613463>bungie game>not a cash grabWhy is everyone retarded when it comes to bungies community
>>737607835incredible. really happy for them. i'm still not going to buy it or play it, and i will forget about it as soon as i click "post"
I don't get why marathon threads became flame war general
>>737616339Marathon isnt a good game though?
They made the best pvp extraction shooter to date and no one wants to play it.Its gonna suck trying to fill this hole with Hunt or Tarkov when it dies.
>>737613463>players
>>737621113How is brush burialI'm a fan of Thief
>>737621245You could always just go play destiny 2 pvp if you want the same gunplay experience
Nice blatantly botted comments
Speaking of Bots they should add a offline mode where you fight botted runners
Why did destiny 1 won and why did marathon and destiny 2 lost?
>>737613756The greatest art is never the most popular art.
>>737620702Filtered
>tranny game died without me having to do anythingnice
>>737622391You're complaining online
>>737622424>5 seconds postno, just laughing at your dead safe product
Why is the marathon community a bigger hugbox than arc raiders?
>>737622608Not my product
>>737621764Destiny 1 was even worse than Marathon on releaset. played at launch
>>737622785Yup and it got betterMarathon will not get better because NUbungie can't make videogames. They only know how to copy and paste
>>737623048nigga destiny 1 was NUbungie. Old Bungie died with Halo.>copy and pasteThat was literally vanilla destiny 1 + taken king
>>737623048NuBungie is anything released after this screen in 2010.
>>737623184Destiny 1 had good devs thoughbeit. They are all gone now though because most of them were from activisions side
>>737607835love the art, sucks that it has to be stuck on an extraction shooter
Is this what it looks like to blast fellow blasthavers?
7000 players is actually very impressive for extraction slop. Only unc raiders gets more because it's entirely pve. Tarkovs pve mode gets less and it's more popular than PvP.Imagine being a retarded Sony exec and blowing 300 million on a game that the entire market history tell you wouldn't sell more than generic indie deck builders.
>>737623184>>737624296>>737623670With that being said though... I wasnt allowed to play halo back in those days cause I was a bab. First bungie game I ever played was destiny 1 and got hooked into it so I do i have to consider your guys POV since you probably feel like how I felt when bungie released destiny 2 and marathon
>>737624446Idk, I don't watch streamers.
>masterpiecesir, it's an extraction shooter
>>737607835that pic is the most poser thing i've ever seengtfo off the internet please
>>737624673Um................marathon was designed to be watchable so why aren't you watching you stupid fucking chud
>>7376078358k on the weekend middle of the day. Nope.
>>737613463lmao
>>737613463I genuinely dont understand how people hold this opinion. Like, I dont enjoy Apex or cod or CS, but I get how they can be fun. But I don’t understand what so amazing about Marathon or how people fawn over it like this.
>>737607835This guy meme
>>737621185its one mentally ill bungie shill, you can tell when he isn't around because the threads are a lot less bad, they die thiugh, which is fitting for the dead game
>pls give bungie another chance bro ;_;No!
>>737625131do you understand trannies?
>>737624821It's too early for muttoids. The game has no player base outside us east coast for some reason
>Sony deep pockets at work financing advertisement ad nauseam on 4chan.
>>737625413 Inverse square law. The popularity of a aaa western slop decreases proportionally to the square of the distance from its source of marketing.
no playersno viewersgreat success
>>737627345Um..... what happened to the 130k viewers? Surely it wasnt all just paid advertising right?
>>737607835Who's Anto Batta? Why did I get invited to watch this? Fuckin bots
Marathon will die.Bungie will be raped.
>>737628408Why is the word "rape" used so much around Marathon's discussion? It's constant. Is this just something that caught on because the game wasn't performing well, or is there history to it?
>>737627345Those categories aren't sorted by viewer count. That scroll is pointless.
>>737628574There is history to it, I cannot remember every piece. But one that stuck iirc was someone using #rapebungie on twitter and the community manager DMG got all worked up about it. There was also the ITL stream where someone sent a friend request to a dev playing the game with the steam name "Bungie Rape Victim". So now its all about raping Bungie and Marathon.
>>737628574We were once happy destiny players... but that all changed with shadowkeep. Throughout the years bungie slowly raped our game. They focused on livestreamers and made the gameplay boring... but "watchable". They would rape our gear... rape our balance... rape our identity... and then finally with one last thrust... they finished off our game with STAR WARS... from the ashes we remain. Soon enough you will be like us... unless we rape bungie TOGETHA
>>737628574Rape has gone up in usage in recent months across 4chan, it's not just a Marathon thing. Mainly because it's funny, but also because it's the one 4chan meme that can't flow downstream and find adoption among normalfags. As the other anon said there's a couple reasons why Bungie in particular is on the receiving end of Rape jokes.
>>737628857Oh, and what Nightreign gif. It's also posted a bunch, I don't see a connection.>made the gameplay boring... but "watchable"That's funny, since I don't find Marathon fun to watch. But to be fair, I don't like watching any multiplayer games.
>>737628796it would've been even more humiliating longer scroll if they were anon..
>>737629068Would it? You can see a bunch of sub-1000 categories in that webm.
>>737629032>That's funny, since I don't find Marathon fun to watchThats the point. There was a retarded twab post back in shadowkeep where they wanted to make the game "watchable" as in they want it to be filled with epic twitch clips and triumphs of hard content but in reality nobody gave a shit and its the worst change to difficulty they had done>nightreign gifMe tearing a hole through your pants to rape you
>>73762915414 rows vs 17, i stand corrected, the game is a great success.. i guess
>>737629445I only care about data accuracy. What this means for the game is not my business.
*ahem*destiny 2 has more console players btw
>>737629720NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737629720it always been like 75% consoles, noone was really making it a secret, it surpassed marathon a few weeks ago
>>737629720>Old popular game has more players than new middling game
Me with my larp gear and a blueberry bath bomb bathing in my 10 foot tall wifes breast milk
>>737628574Because it got raped
>>737629720Doesn't destiny 2 have another launcher as well?>>737630313>popularDestiny 2 has not been popular for many years now
>>737630897Steam charts say otherwise, especially if you consider the console players.
>>737630897Only EGS launcher, but they're like 1k? maybe less(there's like 2-10 stadiafags)
>>737607835Personally, I genuinely think its a really good game. I have a lot of fun playing it. I wish it were more popular but I think Bungie may have fucked up somewhere along the line to not get it picked up by more players.I think releasing AFTER Arc Raiders was a big mistake. Arc is genuine slop, but it was a decent triple A attempt at the extraction genre and was out long enough to give people time to get attached to it. This ended up being 100k+ people seeing Marathon as a threat to their game's lifespan and turning against it. If Bungie hadn't fucked around mid-development changing tacs from a "Create your own guy" to a "Hero shooter" style halfway through, they could have released before Arc and established a foothold
>>737629720>BOY OH BOY IT SURE WAS A GREAT IDEA TO ABANDON OUR MONEY PRINTER FOR THIS NICHE SHIT NOBODY PLAYSCant wait for the shareholder meeting to drop.
>>737631125>somewhere
>>737631214Yep. Exactly what I was referring to. Honestly a shame. Did they get rid of the old lead because of some dumb controversy or something?
>>737631125>I think releasing AFTER Arc Raiders was a big mistakeThey didn't have a choice. Rook is the result of the delay caused by the alpha's reception. Can you imagine how much worse Marathon would have performed if it didn't have Rook or solo? I wouldn't have bought it, that's for sure.>This ended up being 100k+ people seeing Marathon as a threat to their game's lifespan and turning against it.That's a stretch. It's mostly angry Destiny 2 players.
>>737631125I can tell you where they fucked up, it was choosing to make an extraction shooter with a AAA budget when the top 2 slots are already taken. The other mistake is treating PC like the primary platform. Bungie is console plebs so they should tried to eat up the console extraction shooter market(much more thin pickings) instead of taking on the entrenched market.
>>737631125I don't have the screencap but Barret idea was 300% better than what they released but it would've taken 1 year of post-release content to be in a "fun-playable" statejust like destiny>>737631184They should've been upfront about it and drop an age of triumph instead of doing whatever the fuck they're doing nowbut bungie greed knows no bound>>737631395The angry destiny players don't even care about the game itself, they just want to see bungie burn
>>737631276He was using his position to persuade lower employees into going on dates with him.
This game is a total grindfest you have to play as a second job to get anythingNo wonder no one plays it
>>737631571>but it would've taken 1 year of post-release content to be in a "fun-playable" stateThat's pretty much where we already are.
>>737631657I hope they soften the salvage requirements in season 2, or at least add a way to convers one type of salvage into another. Beginners don't need huge purples clogging their vault, and later, you don't need those hundreds of gray salvage.
>>737607835>game is utterly dead outside of NA>even at peak NA times its losing players every week>game went on sale and lost players>but its a masterpiece actuallyuh huh...
>>737631395>Rook is the result of the delay caused by the alpha's reception. >Can you imagine how much worse Marathon would have performed if it didn't have Rook or solo?Thats what I mean though. If they didn't pivot halfway through and slap an extra year onto development, everything could have released another 9 months early. Marathon could have had a more stable, more final alpha earlier on, take the feedback onboard and release before Arc had a chance to get a foothold. There was quarter of a million people playing Arc when it is genuinely terribly made extraction shooter>Zero reason to progress>AI sloppa voice lines>Avatars are fuck ugly and customisation is limited other ugly outfits>Art style is non existent other than this half hearted attempt at retro-futurism with the tape recorders that dont actually appear outside of loading screens>AI generated lore and story beats>Glitchy and unfinished>Apex of gameplay is a lobby of people running around with green shields and stitcher IVs running around Stella Montis trying to rob other players of their loot, then not using it because why risk it when Stitcher IV still fucksThose players had to go somewhere, imagine if they werent all addicted to the casual slop last autumn
>>737607835I will pay Sony $5 in a Steam sale for this trash if they add offline singleplayer PvE so I don't need to interact with other players
>>737631910I know its a copium perspective but to be absolutely fair, player numbers are never 100% indicative of quality. Otherwise COD, Battlefield, FC and NBA/NFL whatever would be considered absolutely masterpieces of game design
>>737631910>game is utterly dead outside of NANot utterly, I'm in Russia, and I sometimes see other Russian players.>but its a masterpiece actuallyI wouldn't go as far calling it a "masterpiece ", just pretty good. But it's a punishing game, so it struggles to retain players, especially early on. You can see this in the achievement stats. Look at the big gaps.
>>737607835Why after TLOU2 does every game have to be called a "Masterpiece"?I swear to God, I rarely, if ever heard people describe any game like that, and TLOU2 was a piece of shit.If this is a masterpiece, then Hunt Showdown is, if Hunt Showdown is, then Tarkov is.This game doesn't even do anything to seperate it from the crowd, other than be some low effort, ugly as sin fuckin' game.
>>737632072AI lines is what helped ARC because everyone could communicate without having to deal with broken accents and micletsmeanwhile marathon didn't even have prox chat because muh hurt feefees, and the quick comms line are more barebone than the game itselfalso lmaoing at calling out arc artstyle when marathon did worse>>737632268All those games also have a way to play with bots or on your ownBut you're right
>maratroonies still insisting their game is hardcore for a niche audienceSee, this is what we in the know call "framing". It's not that this billion dollar company made a half a billion dollar game and it was failed dogshit. It's that this billion dollar company made a hardcore half a billion dollar game for a niche audience.;)
>>737629720https://popularity.report/Destiny 2 still has 150-220k daily unique users actively playing the game. This cumulative daily count does not include those that login to check out the store or just do shit in social spaces like the tower. These users are exposed through Bungie's API, so these numbers are official, direct-from-developer
On the Steam forums someone found an article that said "half of Bungie employees are working on Marathon now", at ~850 employees and 12k steam players that's about a 1:30 employee/player ratio. Praying Bungie cuts their losses, realizes the game is a money pit and starts working on something that people actually want to play instead of another genertic extraction shooter cloaked in the dead skin mask of their old games.
>>737632835Marathon isn't hardcore, it just has bad onboarding.
>>737632962I wonder what those 400 people are doing if 4 maps and 1 enemy type is all they have to show for it
>>737633232Those maps are pretty high in detail. Also, the development was pivoted at least once, see: >>737631125
>>737616339>I want more people to waste 40 bucks on a shit and soon dead game>is that a bad thing?you shill faggots don't even try
>>737607835Can't they just make Rook F2P?At present no one is going to buy the dead game especially one month away from wipe.
>>737607835the real issue is the 100% loss with every match even tarkov has the prison wallet you can stash some items so if you get head eyes by some gook hacker you get SOMETHING. but marathon its either despair or at best relief you didnt lose your items
>>737633232I bet the game they released was put together last year
>>737628408Is this article real?
>>737634573Anon...
>>737634573it is.
>>737632072>sitcher 4lmao talking out your ass or stopped playing week one. stitcher and kettle have been nerfed and bobcats are supreme now. also you talk down on the skins and customization for Arc but marathon is worse because the skins are lazy recolors where you cannot change a damn thing about your hero, sorry runner.
>>737634573'Fraid so
>>737607835I respect a game that isn't afraid to tell normies to fuck off.And I do find the aesthic intresting. But I'm a grown ass man with a job. I don't want to come back from a long day of work to play something I know is just going to piss me off. Maybe when I was 15 I would have been into this but frankly this new era of every game being ranked focus has just put me off PvP entirely. And I think Marathon bombing plus Fortnite finally dwindling down signifies most people have too.
>>737637473>I respect a game that isn't afraid to tell normies to fuck off.The issue is that this wasn't the intention.
>>737637753>>737637473It's fine and all... if it isn't budgeted at $250m+ and requires 400+ devs to maintain
>>737607835This image looks like either an early 2000's graphics card box art or a breakbeat album cover
>>737637753>>737637870No, I fully agree and understand.It's just a part of me wishes we went back in the days when Double A games were much more common and weren't afraid of having a core ideal audience rather than constant bottom of the barrel mass appeal.It reminded me of the System Shock Remake. There was debate of the game was TOO faithful to the origonal, esoteric designs and all. I played the first one years ago and hated it- but I also would never in a million years tell the dev's to change the game to appeal to me specifically. I think there is geniune artistry and beauty when a game isn't afraid to be made for it's core people. Changing a game to cater to me who never "got it" is a direct insult to people who did. But yeah, the probloem lies is you should NOT do this for a game that costed upwards of 250 Million to make PLUS and extra 3.6 billion that was an investment buying the whole company. Niche games surive through niche Double A funding- not this bullshit.
>>737613463You have to spend 20 dollars to color your character red. Something free in Halo CE, a game from 25 years ago.
>>737638349>It reminded me of the System Shock Remake. There was debate of the game was TOO faithful to the origonal, esoteric designs and all.I didn't find it too esoteric. But I did find it just annoying towards the end due to enemy spam.>But yeah, the probloem lies is you should NOT do this for a game that costed upwards of 250 Million to make PLUS and extra 3.6 billion that was an investment buying the whole company.I see it as more about what Bungie didn't do rather then what they did. There needs to be better onboarding, a firing range, maybe an arcade-like combat simulation with no rewards other than beating your own high score, and just plain more content.
>>737638349>the days when Double A games were much more common and weren't afraid of having a core ideal audienceThey're still out there. The problem is you don't hear about them. The third Zeno Clash game came out a few years ago and I was absolutely blown away by how well made it was, genuinely one of the best games I've played in the last decade and even fans of the series didn't know it came out because they don't have zillions of dollars for marketing and advertising.It seems like most AA devs have been swallowed up by the various slop factories of the industry and just crank out gacha/mobile/battlepass trash.
>>737631571based fuck bungie
