>>737613365>lance mcfaggot
All non-snoys check in
ban twitter screencap threads.
>>737613365Add it to the "things people will write 50 articles about the hypothetical of any other company doing, but will ignore when sony actually DOES it" pile
>buy a digital game>without internet connection???? What? How? Even if you manually disconnect it, for what purpose?
You only had to listen.
>>737613365>buys hardware which can play physical games>decides to get digitally cucked
>>737613457Wouldn't have to take a twitter screencap if ANYONE would report on the shitty things sony does
ITS OKAY WHEN SONY DOES IT**but if nintendo or even xbox does it endless articles about them being evil will published.
that's crazy what is the point of this
>>737613365How is this legal?
>>737613457This is news related to a console and no other news site is publishing it. Deal with it.
>>737613483You don't travel with your console around the globe? What do you think was the game cube handle for?
>>737613526Free market, commie.
>>737613365>buy thing>take a nap>money stolenThey expect this to be legal anywhere on the planet?
>>737613516More than half of all ps5 SKUs don't even come with a disc drive
>>737613516Most PS5s don't have a disc drive. PS6 won't have one at all.
>>737613365W-what if I don't pay the monthly internet goyfee?
>>737613365console cucoldry
>>737613516>>buys hardware which can play physical gamesjust wait until next gen is completely digital.
>>737613365OI YOU GOT A LOICENCE FOR DAT VIDYA BRUV
>>737613520To forcefully keep you in their ecosystem. Also might be for some legal point to dismiss skg "Your honor our games are services, see you need to renew license every 30 days for continuous usage!"
>buy thing>don't actively use thing>thing stolen backfor what purpose?
>>737613520>say words>money stolen
>>737613365Apparently Xbox has also had this scheme since the Xbox One days? Ross... it's time for one more ride.
>>737613365Okay, so... why would your console be disconnected from the internet?I know microsoft got memed on during E3 for this but that was ages ago. nobody lacks internet. Nobody lacked it back in the xbox one days either, but now especially not. Not even the slums of india lack internet. ffs it's digital games, you can't even get them without internet kek. It ain't a portable bro you're not gonna bring your beat up ps4 innawoods.>but what if they shut the store down??Then you pirate it like every other thing companies refuse to sell, obviouslyAnd besides, "losing your games" isn't an issue anyway because PS5 GOT NO GAMES LOOOOOL
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAPhysical media is king. Digital DRM trannies on suicide watch
>Buy game>Beat game>Want to replay game>It's been a year>Sign in>Sony has taken away my game>Money STOLENHOW is this okay?
>>737613526Because you can simply opt out of the agreement, and take the multi-billion dollar corpo to court if you want to change it!
>>737613692How would this help against skg? it's still the developers who need to provide tools for keeping the game running even if playstation issues separate licenses for it
>>737613365If I'm ever at a point in my life where I can't afford Internet, then playing a faggot ass game is the last thing I should be worried about. Get real, faggots. Grow up
>>737613505>>737613780You lost commie cocksuckers.
>>737613526Because you keep buying it anyway.
>>737613483>buy game>remain held at gunpoint by the store in perpetuity so they can decide if you're allowed to play it
>>737613809I take a month of vacation every summer.
>>737613809>why would your console be disconnected from the internet?I bought a PS5 and it was definitely shut off for more than a month at a time before I sold it again
>>737613815>Physical media is kingnot for long.Even Nintendo of all companies will probably get rid of it for Switch 3
I’ll have to fire up my pro a bit later but interesting why all the screenshots are from ps4 interface so far. I pretty much only play online games so this would never really impact me I guess. Only single player game I have installed atm is Pragmata.
>>737613859>>737613889Yeah, but when you come back your console would reconnect to internet as soon as you turn it on and re-validateyou're not getting your game permanently stolen because you didn't play it for 30 days, it means if it's offline and doesn't go back online
I can't wait to see people defending "just start all your games once per week bro" like a religious ritual
>owning a console in 2026you deserve to eat shit
>>737613719So you use your things. Would be incredibly funny if steam started revoking licenses to games you didn't run in last 30 days, most people will lose 90% of their library and everyone will only buy things they want to play instead of slurping every game below 5$ during sales.
>>737613904Very insincere reporting then.It seemed like you need to rebuy the "license" after 30 days passed
>>737613919>YOU HAVE TO PLAY THIS>Why?>B-BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY?>!?>!>!@>!@>!@<>@!#!>"@#$
You're going to defend it anywayThings will continue to get worse and the normalgroids will continue to consume and support it
>>737613957Is there any other kind? It’s all bait to draw clicks
>>737613919>>737613719What? That's not how this works.>download game>unplug ethernet>after 30 days game will say 'unable to verify'>plug ethernet back in>game verifies with account>unplug ethernet>another 30 daysIt doesn't delete the license from your account.
>>737613830To further reinforce that games are not products but services and should be legally treated as such.
>>737614049Proof?
>>737614049The twitter faggot in the OP said the license will be removed so I misunderstood, I fucking hate that shithole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPuXAd6KCA
>>737613562Everywhere has wifi if you absolutely must play in a hotel room. It’s not good for long term preservation, but you don’t care about that if you buy digital
>>737613957>Very insincere reporting then.Yeah, that's how it's been since day 1 with the "always online" complaints. "always online" sucks in case of a rare outage, unwanted mandatory update, stuff like that. In this case if you have internet at any time during a 30 day period you never even notice this... so who cares?Also, they're complaining about DRM while buying a console and paying to use their own internet... I mean come on, it's like buying an apple mouse and complaining the charging port is on the bottom. They knew what they signed up for.
>>737613526Presumably you regain your licence if you log in after it's expiredSurely they'd not be retarded enough to actually void a purchaseI'd ask what is even the purpose of thisIt's extremely bad optics and it's not like user metrics are hard to come by - you have to be online to buy things, so if you're not online, you're not buying, so you're not a customer they care about
>>737613365I am assuming this means you just have to go online again to renew your license like how it works with playing games on a console that isn't selected as your primary one. Guess this means stuff that gets removed from the psn store is just lost to time now after a month. Anyone that still has P.T. on their system probably can never update again or it just vanishes
>>737614096Yeah the local license is revoked (as in from your console, it won't let you play without re-verifying). It doesn't mean the game is deleted from your account library, it just means it needs to re-authorise.>>737614089I'm literate and understand that this would be a colossal legal nightmare.
So like on Steam. You just don't know Steam also does this because you have never been offline for 30 days.
>Durr I own my console games! I can play them offline!What do you do now, snoykeks?
>>737613365We're not on X, you're not getting paid for replies.
>>737613838>your Palantir goyscore has been increased by 1
This is literally how the Xbox One's original DRM was going to work, kek. You had to check in once every 30 days to keep playing
>>737613365This is worse than anything Nintendo and Xbox has tried to pull but as always people will run cover for Sony and nobody will mention it ever again.
>>737614151>I'd ask what is even the purpose of thisIt's probably a DRM thing to combat jailbreaking, issuing licenses to each game will make it harder
>>737613365>Your license will be removedat least you don't have this problem with steam for now
>>737613365This is the future digital niggers created. I hope you’re happy with this. Time to go full retro. Enjoy your game rentals on your transstation 6.
>anons are defending thisdon mattrick has been vindicated!
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
>>737614197That doesn't matter, you shouldn't have to connect to the internet at all to play your digital shit offline. I haven't connected my Xbox 360 or PS3 to the internet in years, and the digital shit I bought on those consoles still works.
>>737614049So it's only a problem if, for whatever reason, you don't have internet connection like... I don't know, you are travelling to some place without one.Still kinda fucked up ngl. They are probably enforcing this to prevent hacking
Please SKG if you can hear us, please save us SKG
>>737613859Sounds like a (You) problem
>>737613958Because rampant consumerism is bad. You should only buy things you want to immediately use and if you are too weak willed to do that on your own it should be enforced.
>>737614185>he doesnt knowMy steam client hasnt gone online in months with zero issues. I've been doing it to clear out my backlog.
>>737614303>Buy game>Beat game>Am happy with game>But now because I no longer play it until I feel like that means it's okay to steal gameokay.
If you can't AT LEAST tether to your phone for 5 seconds once every 30 days you have some life issues you need to urgently take care of fr fr on god
>>737613667This is the real issue. Do your games get turned off if you don't pay it?
>>737614258>you shouldn't have to connect to the internet at all to play your digital shit offlineIt doesn't revoke access.
>>737613815>"""physical""" mediaThose copies are just as DRM cucked.
>>737613468Many such cases>>737613482but if it's truly xbox as well at the same time that sounds like it might be a state pushing it
YOU WILL NEVER BE HAPPY
>>737614197Can you post those links?
PHYSICAL GAMES GODS WINDIGITAL ONLY CUC_KS ENJOY YOUR ROPE
>>737613483going offthegrid
>>737614343It revokes access until you check in with their server and it *updates* you license to work for another 30 days offline.
>>737614259I agree it's not a very good move. This won't deter exploitation/hacks - I don't think they'll be affected by this at all. At worst people will create a localhost check for the game and/or set the license to expire in a thousand years. But you know, misrepresenting this DRM as 'it takes away your ability to ever play this game again' doesn't help in arguing against it. If we want to object to it, we need to oppose what it actually does, not an imagined boogeyman version of it.>>737614202The original Xbox One DRM was a lot more aggressive. It was 'check on start up,' not every 30 days, and some games would require an online connection for 'cloud processing.' It was going to work more like EA's Sim City failure.
>>737613919>So you use your things.Nigger I have finished, lets say, Alien nation on ps4, and I may revisit it to finish some side quest stuff after I done with my ps4 library which will take months or years from now.What kind of faggy logic is that? Do I need to download my ENTIRE ps4 library into my ps4 so that I can do that montly drm check? Thats seriously ridiculous. Sony has increasingly became annoying with its ps discount notifications, but they will jump the shark if they actually roll that drm shit. I honestly dont really care about my ps4, because I have already finished bloodborne (aka the only game ps4 had) but I will hack it so that I can play the rest games that I have been buying over the years
>be in a coma for 2 months>lose all my gameswoooow
>>737614259It could be a problem in the ps7 generation if they stop supporting it
Consolefags are already fucked so badDoubt they will care the dick is being slid in another inch
>>737614358https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/games/restore-licences-playstation/https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2026/04/03/ps-store-games-valid-start-end-dates-confusion/
>>737614364Lol why is that filtered now, I guess the 4cuck crew got triggered
>>737613365I havent connected my ps4 to the internet for at least a year now and the games run fine on it. Guess i shouldnt get internet then. Oh well.
>>737613365>your license will be removedWhat so if you don't go on your PS5 for a month all your games are just gone? That seems quite illegal.
>>737614438Don Mattrick (Xbox One)>"It was exciting to think about what a single purpose, dedicated entertainment console could be. So we picked that as a path with Xbox One. We wanted a broad device that touched all parts of gaming and entertainment.">Xbox 360 actually switched away from its predecessor's x86 chip to PowerPC, Xbox One switches back to x86>Xbox One was underpowered due to a DDR3/ESRAM memory system with less bandwidth overal than the GDDR5-equipped PS4>MATTRICK: "Some of the advantages that you get, of having, a box that is designed to use an online state, so, that, uh, to me is the future-proof choice, and I think people, could've arguably gone the other way if we didn't do it and fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360.">MATTRICK: "Well, if you have zero access to the internet, that is an offline device, I mean, seriously, when I read the blogs, and thought about who's really the most impacted, there was a person who said 'hey, I'm on a nuclear sub,' and I don't even know what it means to be on a nuclear sub but I've gotta imagine it's not easy to get an internet connection.">This also revealed Adam Sessler to be the only "journalists" who was fully on board with everything Microsoft was offering>After the horrible launch of the Xbox One in 2013 Don Mattrick left Microsoft to work as a CEO for Zynga>Studios working with the next-gen Xbox are currently being forced to work with only approved development libraries, while Sony is encouraging coders to get closer to the metal of its box>Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Quantum Break, State of Decay, and Sunset Overdrive are just part of where Microsoft was MOSTLY pushing third-party>Cliff Bleszinski: Gears of War Franchise Was Sold to Xbox Because Epic “Didn’t Know What to Do With It">Halo MCC was broken in so many ways... it was quite literally unplayable, and the worst launch for the franchise by
>>737613505>The industry found 30 ways for you to OWN NOTHING in the time SKG kinda maybe fixes one.>>737613365>>737613482I doubt Sony would be retarded enough to revoke the license ENTIRELY after 30 days, this would create enough tickets to make their heads spin and force them to revert altogether.I vaguely remember some applications from the 2000s using a system like this, and what happened was that you only needed to connect online once more to play the game or use the software. Or when you download a demo of a XBLA game and you then bought the game inside the app, the Xbox would treat the license still as that of a demo offline unless you connected online, reason that I would delete the demo then buy the game from the store so the game would always work offline.That is not to say is not shitty but FULL license nullification without online authentication is absurd, what issue is that they are trying to solve here?
>>737614438this ain't a PS4 now is it? PS5 baby!
>>737614464No that part is a lie
>>737614431Just don't be in coma. Your bills won't stop for you being in coma, why should your games?
>Retards actually defending this Don Mattrick was right. He was just too ahead of his time before the soulless goyims started to get used to it.
>>737613483>Even if you manually disconnect it, for what purpose?This retard actually thinks sony servers will be up forever
>>737614345Take your medsDRM steam tranny
>>737614497For now
>>737614228He was always right. The big gotcha question was "what about players who don't have internet", which is a completely retarded question. Everybody has internet.However, despite the fact that he's right, the concept of "intellectual property" is a cancer which corporations infect our society with to enslave us. Therefore I must wage eternal jihad on DRM in all its forms. More broadly speaking, if companies think something is good for them then it's mostly likely bad for me, so I oppose it. Simple as.
>>737614517Can you freely copy the contents on that disc? Didn't think so. DRM is fully possible on read only media.
>>737614497Yeah I expected as much. At worse I can see it maybe locking your games WHILE offline after 30 days if you never went on for 30 days but would reactivate the second you connected to the internet again. Though yeah still bullshit and unethical regardless.
>>737614370Your dinky little deisel generator ain't gonna be supporting a television and a modern console for very long if it also has to do refridgeration and cooking tasks
I hope Sony gets sued for this. Fucking bullshit
The console is so bad they have to force people to use it occasionally, either that or they want the snoycucks to connect it to the internet every month to harvest the data it's collected, I keep laughing at the cucks who buy these things
>>737613365>you will own nothing
>>737614550Meds Tranny Take Em
>you will own nothing Why aren't people uprising against Jews yet?
>>737614624You don't understand how DRM works. Protip: the mid 2000's disc releases of PC games were the worst it ever was.
>>737613483there's definitely cases where I don't touch one of my consoles for a month
>>737614643Why aren't you?Daily reminder you won't do shit.
>>737614591>they want you to face scan>they want your ID>they want constant online checkssounds like you're right about data harvesting
>>737614446So this has always existed but they recently made it obvious by showing it which is causing panic?
>>737614693Don't forgot sony wants to implement age verificationSonyfags will have to give up all thier data just to play slop.
>>737614497but that's ltierally the system you describe.
This is what happens when blackrock owns your company
>>737613815Even nintendo is pushing game key carts. Soon piracy will be the only true way to own your games
I guess it's been decided, I'm just getting a Switch 2 OLED and Steam Deck 2. I can't do it anymore with Sony and Microsoft. Corporate dicks.
There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to keep playing your digital games offline after 30 days IF you're signed into the account that bought the digital licenses AND have the system you're playing on set as the 'primary' console.
>>737613365>the same people who have data breaches where hackers get to dox you get to decide they will take away your games if you dont play them every 30 dayslollmaoroflkek
>>737614750Nintendo has far more telemetry data tracking on the Switch 2 that they don't tell you about
>>737614197this doesn't debunk it at all.
>>737614732No, it's not. Verifying every 30 days is not the same as being removed from the account.
>Backward Compatibility is free and allows you to play selected Xbox 360, Original Xbox games and Xbox One games you already own>Basically a Windows PC in a box>Discs just work >Game Pass>GPU hits 12 teraflops>No CFW to this day>Unhackable Apologize
>>737614749>willYou haven't had physical games since the advent of updates.
>>737614727Dumbass
>>737613365I thought this was already a thing. I don't really buy digital on PS5 because I have a way of getting physical games weeks before launch, and by default my PS5 is offline most of the time.
>>737614747Thanks for posting, yeah I shan't be buying snoy slop again ever
>>737614727Fucking retard
>>737614806Still isn't on the level of cancer that is PlayStation and Xbox. PlayStation and Xbox really fell off over the years.
>>737614835>>737614848Shut up retard. Give your infromation.
>>737614749>Even nintendo is pushing game key cartsWrong you retard. 3rd parties are pushing them and asked for them to be made since even on the Switch 1 they were too greedy to use real game cards. All first party Nintendo games are on real game cards
>>737614747what the fuck? is this real? no way
>>737614750least delusional bingtranny
>>737613483There are people who work on shipping
>>737614151It's just jailbreaking and file sharing.There is absolutely no reason at all to put a timed expiry on the license someone legitimately bought on the store and require them to log in routinely to refresh it.
>>737614826This piece of shit will also revoke your license in 30 days if you don't play your digital games. Xbox also costs $800.
>>737614848Saar givings personaling data showing bob and vagene it is mandatories or you be retarding
>Buy game>Go on 30 days vacation>Money stolenwhy is this allowed?
>Forced ID verification in the UK for basic communication features>Sneaking in new draconic DRM implementationDamn, no wonder THEY lashed out especially hard this week.
>>737614905>Xbox also costs $800.why you lying? it's still 650 USD
>>737614952Who are THEY and what did they do?
I fully expect snoyniggers to become even more spergy and unhinged especially towards Steam and PCchads.>>737614826>PLEASE BUY A XBOX! PLEASE! EVEN THOUGH IT LITERALLY HAS NO GAMES!!!lol
>>737614975Joe mama.
>>737614750>trusting Nintendo after key cardsYou’re retarded. They will do the same exact thing. In typical Nintendo fashion it will probably take them a few years to implement but they will absolutely fuck you when they’re able to.
>>737613518Doesn't Nintendo have that shit already for years? I've seen this message countless times with digital games
>>737614858correct me if I am wrong but doesnt Switch/Switch 2 also have some kind of online check DRM thingy?
>>737615027>>737615019
>>737613365Just checked a bunch of games, nothing shows up. Fake and gay, probably Faggotsoft sponsored FUD>CAN'T YOU FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL THE NEW ENERGY? THE VIBE???????Fuck off.
>>737615019that's for NSO classic games, not for regular games that you bought
>>737615062Yeah, this is retarded. This is how digital game ownership has worked on PlayStation for 20 years now.This isn't news, OP likely just needs to activate their console as Primary/PS5 for offline license sharing. The license expiry is to prevent piracy/1 game being shared to 1,000 other consoles.
>>737613365just read about thiswait, so every 30 days I'll have to boot up all my 130 games with the internet connected and if I forget to boot even a single one of them, I'll lose it forever and have to buy it again? LMAOshitty practice aside, did Sony even test this crap?I'm lucky I have only 130 games that I'll have to boot up from now on every month, but some of my friends have north of 600 games. how the hell does Sony expect you to keep booting up all those games every month? it's ridiculous, a person might have to reserve a whole weekend just to go through their game library, installing game, booting it up, uninstalling, rinse and repeatwtf is this shit, was this idea brainstormed by a bunch of baboons?
>>737615080Eh I have seen the prompt appear if you preloaded games that havent released yet either.
>>737613516>buy game digitally>game share with my friend>split the cost with him>both of us get to play the new game at half the cost (plus tax)that's honestly the only actual positive to digital games in my eyes. otherwise, I'll just get a super cheap pre-owned copy a few months after the game coomes out.
>>737614985The corpo shlomos want everyone paying rent to them, so you'll have to rent your games and probably pay a tax for playing over your allotted daily gaming time lelFuckin renteer slave society, the cucks deserve it too
>>737615027No. I don't know about digital slop
>>737615124>preloaded games that haven't released yet either.what? how?
>>737613365Oh no, I don't own a console. I also play cracked versions of games I've bought and make backups. Until they can reverse download games off of my SSD, this isn't a problem for me. If you were smart, you would stop buying games until they reverse this decision. But since you aren't, this practice will continue. So I don't care. I will continue to play decade(s) old games with no issue whatsoever, until my hardware dies.
>Everyone shits on Xbox for thinking about doing it and destroys their entire market lead>Playstation implements it now that they have no competition between Xbox and Nintendo>nobody rioting about it Sony won without a shot fired.
>>737615113>wait, so every 30 days I'll have to boot up all my 130 games with the internet connected and if I forget to boot even a single one of them, I'll lose it forever and have to buy it again?No, it will just do an online check before launching, its still stupid to have this kind of DRM but it isnt THAT stupid.
>>737615113It probably just checks if your account has logged in, sorta like sites that allow you to stay logged in but log out automatically if you don't use it in a long time.The problem is that if you don't have Internet that day or you just want to play offline now you can't anymore.
>>737615183>It's actually being DEFENDEDSony cultist not beating the allegations
>>737615183There's plenty of us fighting back itt
>>737615156It will do a check to see if the game has launched essentially.
>buying digital gamesYOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA PHYSICALBVLLS REIGN SUPREME
>>737615220no, how do you load games that hasn't been released?
>>737614481>what issue is that they are trying to solveThey saw people emulating X360 XBLA and PS3 PSN games so they are making sure to prevent it cannot happen for digital "licenses" for the PS5 and X1X And later.
>>737615165True.It still sucks because it's retroactive though, there's no way to prepare for that other than distrusting every corporation on Earth which at this point is probably the right move.
>>737613635>PS6 won't have one at allUnless Sony invent some way to let you digitally play any game you own a disc of you are genuinely fucking delusional if you don't think the PS6 is going to be available with a disk drive. It's just going to be the same as the PS5 where both disk drive and no disk drive versions exist.
>>737615252It's not retroactive
>>737615240if you pre order a game in the Eshop the game will preload close to launch, if you try to launch said game before the release it will do an online check.
>>737613437Fail lmao
>>737615191>>737615209but if I fail to do the online check in 30 days I still lose all my games still?I'm kinda worried because I oftentimes travel to eatern europe and spend more than a month away from home on such trips, and it'd be kinda ridiculous to ask a friend or family "hey can you drop by my home and boot up my ps5 for me?"
>>737615273>the game will preload close to launchI've never experienced this. I couldn't even download the games until it launches
>>737615254>It's just going to be the same as the PS5 where both disk drive and no disk drive versions exist.Ah yes, the diskless PS5 that sold for $100 cheaper and completelt dwarfed the disk version. Really showed off the importance of physical sales with that one huh, you fucking imbecile
>>737615290No you don't lose all your games.You DO lose access to them and they can't be played offline, you will need to connect to the internet to get them reactivated.
>>737615290You wont lose the games, it will just do a an online verification before the game launches, again its dumb but you dont lose your games.
>>737615271It applies to games released/purchased before the change so I'm afraid it is.
>>737613457>ban twitter screencap threads.you made the thread you retarded turd
>>737615326nta but you're a stupid faggot with SDS, imagine thinking the PS6 won't have a disc drive fucking lmao, you must love tendo cock
I see people saying they just bought a game and don't have any cooldown while offline. This sounds like bullshit, or people are gamesharing and not signed into the right account that purchased the game.>>737615290Yeah, you supposedly have to connect to the internet once every 30 days to play the games.
>>737615326>it sold more so alternatives won't existRetard. Tell me you know absolutely fucking nothing about marketing without telling me you know absolutely fucking nothing about marketing.
>>737615290No, you don't lose your games. You just can't play them until your console is online again.But you will lose them when the servers eventually die and can no longer do that 30 day license refresh.Hope SKG and EU fix this!
>>737613365>lies about GKC requiring weekly online check in>gets hit with karmaI’ve lost count how many times it happened at this point
>>737615406God hates Snoys
>>737615390That's a very good point. Sony could kill gaming with their servers, not ok!
>>737615356No it doesn't
>>737613526it isnt, at least not in first world countriessry, Americans
>>737615342>>737615346>>737615390Thanks, that gives me peace of mind, still stupid tho>>737615378at least I don't lose the games, that was what I was worried with, but man wtf were are they thinking?
>>737615019>gets raped by Sony (again)>rushes to defend them and lies about other companiesSnoys aren’t human.
>>737613365I just checked Uncharted Collection and RE3 on my PS4 and there was no any timer
>>737615062I’ve went through like 9 games and not seen any with the label but I’ve yet seen a ps5 screenshot so it could be one of those weird things only visible to last gen like the player feed and such that’s gone from the ps5 dash side.
>>737615371>>737615379>No no you dont understand! They definitely arent trying to push disks out! They defimitely wont use this as an excuse to roll out diskless consoles as the default mass produced version! Right, sure. The water isnt boiling, it's just that the whole world is this hot now thanks to global warming or some shit.
>>737614395WHAT KIND OF TROGLODYTE IS OFFLINE FOR 30 DAYS?
>>737615390>company is required to provide servers for licenses for 1000 years because.....EU will say so!!!Fucking commie bootlickers.
>>737614902It's 100% about cockblocking CFW, the 30 day thing is to force updates on you everytime you want to play your library. I think most people won't notice it but there's a small minority that will eventually get fucked in the ass by thisThis just shows that the pirates were right all along, the only way to play video games in current year and not get assraped is to pirate and backup everything. >>737615227>insert physical game>"you need to download 67GB of data to launch this software">*one console update later>"the license for this software has expired, sign in to your accout to verify license">*another console update later>"you need to verify your age to play this content, please send a valid ID, picture of your face looking up and cock pic to proceed"
>>737613365Removed until you go online again. It's still stupid but it's not THAT stupid.
>>737615489It's only for newer purchases
>>737615489It's supposedly for purchases you make from now on. It still sounds liek bullshit - I've seen multiple people say they just bought a game and don't have any time limit offline.
>>737615506I'm really hoping all vidya companies pull out of the EU and leave them with ball in a cup.
>>737615504You are aware this is the same line of defense Xboxfags said after Xbox One reveal, right?
>>737614858pokopia is a GCK though. Also switch carts are just sd cards anyway. Bring back real cartridges or use discs you faggots. The games being able to leak out of a switch/3ds cartridge is the biggest killer to them being physical media. CDs have the data literally etched into them.
>>737613365There is no excuse for this level of corporate assfucking.Snoy status: completely cuckified and loving it.
>>737613365Well sounds like they just killed every single possible new customer.
>>737615504Exactly!
>>737615503>instantly moves the goalpost after getting BTFOFucking loser
>>737615510The vast majority of physical PS4/PS5 games are able to be played fully offline with no updates.
>>737614202overton window is a bitch
>>737613483>go on month long holiday, detachment, just stop playing>game gone
>>737615590The average playstation owner is black, 80 IQ and only plays 2K.I'm afraid they'll be fine.
>>737615551I'm a PChad, so I don't care about that. I'm logged into Steam 24/7 even if I don't have to be. It's just convenient.
>>737613365My ps5 is rotting in my closet lmao
>>737614202>It's Okay when Sony does it
>>737615503aren't you supposed to be screaming about eric? lmao
>>737615558It’s not like we don’t get disc versions of that silliness
>>737615609>>737615654>Diskless consoles are the most popular option by far and will become the default if not the only option in the future>NO U BTFO! Absolutely assblasted, lmao. Enjoy your mandatory always online drm, consolecucks
>>737613919that would be end of steam
Fuck you haters, full digital and never losing my internet. NOT MY PROBLEM
>>737615612I'm sure Sony would never ever sneak in an update that changes that and requires the console to phone home when playing physical copies. After all they would never ever alter how the DRM works am I rght?
>>737615697>Sony hates money so they'll just remove optionsDumb nigger. Kill yourself
>>737615113No offense, but the reading comprehension, or lack thereof, from some of you here is honestly alarming, to the point that it makes me worried about society.
Damn and I was thinking about buying a ps5 once GTA VI gets released but now I think I will wait until it's released on PC.
>>737615726>Sony hates moneyThat's right!
>>737615720In terms of practical application yeah this is a literal non issue everyone's connected to the internet, it's more an ownership issue with Sony overstepping their bounds to be more anti-consumer.
>>737615673It’s hilarious how the PS4 version was entirely on the disc but this supposed “improved” version isn’t. Anyone that buys anything from ubisoft these days deserves to get scammed.
>>737615726>they'll just remove options that dont make money fo save dev time and resources>this business decision completely confounds the snoycuck
no wonder that guy keeps shitting up the nintendo threads, wtf
>>737615775>don't make moneyRetard
>>737615673we do, but at the very least the majority of games on the ps4/ps5 are fully on the disc and there's no risk of the data just vanishing off the disc if you don't use it.>>737615697A significant portion of both PS5 and Switch games are still sold physically, retard.>>737615721You LITERALLY do not even need to create an account to use disc based games on the PS4/PS5, faggio.
>>737613518Snoys tried to vilify Virtual Gamecards and sharing...
>>737615761who the fuck cares
>>737615697Is always online drm a problem when you’re always online? If you have a 30 day internet outage you likely got bigger problems. This isn’t a ps+ requirement, you just need internet period
>>737613437>PHYSICAL IS KINGAnyone who says this never owned a PS4 or PS5The game installs all data from the disk to the drive, just like if you downloaded itIt will still read the disk every minute with an extremely loud WHIRR to annoy youAnd the disk drives die all the time because they are built like shit
>>737613365I heard this was just for games you get from their subscription thing, anyone buy a new digital game that disproves that and makes me look like a retard?
>>737615839Never had any of those issues and I constantly use discs. Maybe clean your fucking room you slob
>>737614202For the oldest anons- remember when Sony was going to burn a console serial number on to PS3 BDs, so once 'activated' on a console they couldn't ever be played on another (required no internet, but permanently locked a disc to one console)
>>737615831>Is always online drm a problem when you’re always online?Easy for first worlders to say, here in Kenya we often have outages that can take longer than a month to be resolved because of inefficient government
>>737615797>A significant portionIn other words, it's a cope. Physicals make a fraction of the money digitals do since they have all those contracting and production costs. >>737615794>no argumentAgain, the diskless PS5 is the most profitable and popular version by far. Dont feel too bad you cant refute this.
>>737615252Anon, I'm going to be very frank with you. You should distrust literally every single corporation down to your power company. But also people have been shitting on Xboner and PS4gaems since they released, for good reason. Why anyone would ever trust these companies after so much has been stripped away, price gouged, censored, and backtracked is beyond me. I'm not trying to make a consumer elitist argument, but for god's sake please start assuming these companies are going to fuck you in the ass the moment you have to sign an agreement to use their services.
>>737615848Just bought a PSN game on PS5 just to test this out and it didn't show any new license bullshit for me. I'm in EU though, so it could be either a regional thing or just a slow rollout for certain regions, or maybe it's just not real.
>>737615941Your argument has already been refuted and you have made no counter whatsoever cause you're a brainless moron.
>>737615883no, but i do remember them doing an online pass to fuck over used games
>>737615839>just like if you downloaded itThe major difference is it can be done OFFLINE. Why do anti-physical fags always miss this part? The disc drive only whirrs up every few hours after it’s done installing. Pro digital trannies and being completely dishonest, name a more iconic duo? Don’t reply to me, I know it will just be more dishonest ackshually tier shit.
>>737615839>Anyone who says this never owned a PS4 or PS5Well yeah. Physical fans are the ultimate larpers. Barely anyone buys physical, that is a fact. Out of those who buy physical, those with a significant collection are even rarer. Yet somehow, everyone discussing physical games acts like they have a room-sized library of game disks and cartridges and they're eternally preserving it all like a museum. In one breath they'll insist they need a $400 cartridge instead of emulating, and in the next breath they'll say physical is better because you can resell your games when you're done playing. It's all a larp, they just like the idea of physical, that's all. Nobody actually puts their money where their mouth is on this shit, that's the reason it's being phased out by everyone, even nintendo now.
>>737615848I’ve got the Spidey games installed from the extra catalog, don’t see anything new in the information page but I’m also not in the mood to delete them just to dl and test it’s a new install only thing.
>>737615831>is needing permission to pay games you've paid for and own really a big problem?I am so glad I will never understand this mindset
>>737615941The PS6 is going to have a disc drive, ericschizo. You'll be shitting, crying and pissing yourself over it, I'm sure.
>>737613518xbox one did this and steam does this
>>737613365LmaoThis killed Xbox One.Have fun snoys.
Remember how Sony locked out everyone from using their PS5s unless they accepted the new ToS earlier this week? This change probably was in that new terms of service update.
>>737615991I have a big collection. Even if I didn't, the idea you have a game forever offline is and always will be based as fuck. Fuck off, digitranny.
>>737614080If Sony wants to treat them as services, then they cannot void the 14 day right of withdrawal in the EU since the EU Court of Justice has ruled that the waiver-clause in the law is to be interpreted as strictly only applying to digital content and not to digital services.This would mean anyone in the EU should be able to 'subscribe' to access to a game, play it for 13 days, return it on the 14th for absolutely no reason listed whatsoever, and be owed a full refund. Which they can then dedicate to 'subscribing' to the next game. Sony would also not be allowed to refuse service to any consumers doing this, because traders are not allowed to discriminate consumers based on a number of factors, one of them being those consumers being perceived as 'difficult' for not being afraid to exercise their legal rights.
>>737615998You don’t need any extra permission though outside of a very specific and pretty rare scenario
>>737616005It's already confirmed as a peripheral sold separately. I also think they'll follow nintendo's lead and bump prices up for physical.
>>737615968>Your argument has already been refutedNUH UH YOU WRONG!! is not a refutation. Sorry snoycuck
>>737615761>In terms of practical application yeah this is a literal non issueI don't know about that, I can think about plenty of scenarios where this is a problem>support for system ends essentially bricking your console>extended internet outage for whatever reason (natural disaster, "cyber pandemic", political reasons)>being somewhere with slow internet or data caps and not wanting to download 20GB of system updates everytime you want to play a single player game>using the console as a secondary system and simply not wanting to or not being able to always have it connected to the internet>system update that renders the system unusable (age verification blocking 18+ games)
>>737616068Also, my brazilian friend told me this week that in Brazil, Sony is now asking for ID or facial verification if you wish to use online features on the console
>>737615991This post hurts me since I’m one of the few true believers left who mostly buys physical. I can’t remember the last time I bought a digital game. If it doesn’t have a physical copy it basically doesn’t exist to me. Yet I know I’m in a tiny minority. The average gamer is retarded niggercattle that deserves getting fucked over by corporations constantly. No other market has people this retarded or with such low standards. I hope this DRM news is true since I want to see digital fags get raped even harder. Though they’ll enjoy it and defend it anyway like they always do.
>>737615831>WeLl DuUrR you got bigger problems, therefore you can go get extra fucked incase the situation ever resolves
>>737616087>the idea you have a game forever offline is and always will be based as fuck.In the long term this is only achievable through piracy.Breaking EULA is also a form of piracy.So yeah just skip the bullshit and pirate the games, mass them on your own physical hard drives and they are yours forever and you can even back them up.Even better, you don't have to pay money to companies that hate you and want to abuse you with DRM, or scalpers who want to exploit you.
>>737616159ah yesyour brazilian "friend"
>>737613365just install linux and use steam
>>737614151>I'd ask what is even the purpose of thisPlanned obsolesence. The prototype for the PS6 has allegedly been internally demo'd. It means if they pull the plug on the PS4 & PS5 support for PSN, everyone's licenses will invalidate in 30 days, and if the PS6 is not fully backwards compatible, everyone will have to repurchase any PS6 editions of games they still want to keep. The PS4->PS5 upgrade remasters were an experiment whether people would be interested in them. The PS6 is going to hit it home.
>>737613815Physical media died with the internet causing developers to put DRM on pc copies Consoles never had true physical media with all the hardware DRM
>>737616031The Steam client has an offline mode.
>>737613365In the end he got his way
What are the chances that the twitter grifter faggot doesn't have his console set as primary console even tho he says he does
>>737616171>buy game on gog>burn installer on an external drive of my choiceDo you consider that to be physical media, based anon?
>>737616143>>support for system ends essentially bricking your consoleThe PS3 came out 20 years ago and you can still use it online. This is a non issue for most people. Though I'm not a digital only cuck regardless.
>>737616210Erasing people's libraries would destroy any lock-in Sony had. They'll just move to cheaper and better platforms. Sounds like a great way to kill consoles forever. I'm all for it, I'm on team Sony now.
>>737613416>tyler mcnigger
>>737616110>You don’t need any extra permission thoughSo why do you need to be online to play your owned games?
>>737614764The PS5 keys were leaked. Sony is probably doing this as part of anti-piracy mitigation.
>>737616267Gog is fine since you can make backup copies. Steamies are retarded drones though.
>>737615019>Doesn't Nintendo have that shit already for years?No. Nintendo doesn't have any DRM like that.It only does an online check for two things1) classic games on a sub for obvious reasons2) if your switch isn't the primary console
>>737616245>PC needs to be wiped due to one reason or another>oops all your games are gone and you have to connect to the internet again :)
>>737616143Most of this sounds like third world issues. No offense.
>>737613365>literally the exact same thing that microsoft wanted to do with the xbox one>snoys are perfectly happy with this and defend it
>>737616193nta, but it's true, you can search it upI fear this shit will spread elsewhere, same as discord shit started on uk/australia and now they want to spread to other countries
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>>737616210>>737616295>schizobabblelmfao the SDS is crazy
>>737616350It definitely will. California already requires OS developers to implement age harvesting, Sony is a California company and this includes their console OS. The next step is verification, it's only a matter of time.
>>737616326You can do the same with steam you clueless idiotGog isn't any different, physicalcucks don't even know that games are just files apparently
>>737613437We win every time bros.Psalm 110:1 KJVThe Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
>>737615737I blame the average literacy level for adults in the US.Did you know 70% of US adults are less literate of a 10-year old western European child?The US is literally turning into an idiocracy.
>>737613482Weird seeing Brok on 4chan
>>737616350Because now it's a an original Japanese (California) idea!sugoi sony sempai for your totally unique way of thinking that foreigners couldn't possibly comprehend.
>>737616397Man, moving to california invited so many problems. Should've just stayed in japan
>>737613365>not owning both physical and digital of your favorites vidya that you do play a lotcompanies don't care we need more shovel ware removed across the board
>>737613365HOLY FUCK LMAAAAAAAAAAOAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
the guy defending this is the same schizo that shits up any Steam thread with his schizophrenia about drm
>>737615558>The games being able to leak out of a switch/3ds cartridge is the biggest killer to them being physical media.That's not actually a thing you know.
>>737616430>less literate of a*less literate than(yes- ironic, I know)
>>737616332>oops all your games are gone and you have to conWAIT NO YOU CANT JUST USE YOUR HDD BACKUP THAT'S PIRACY THAT'S ILLEGAL SAVEME NINTENDO WAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!The only reason you'd choose to ptay on consoles is because you're a tech illiterate zoomoid.
>>737613365SNOYBROS??? WE CAN ONLY BE IN THE KEK CHAIR FOR 30 DAYS NOW??
>>737615504retarded normalfag goycattle
Supposedly the timer is hidden on PS5 - someone needs to buy a game on PS4 and see if they have 1 month to check in online.
>>737616464
>>737616350It’s always to protect the kids, it sounds nice and who wouldn’t want that! It’s a nice easy way for them to get what they want.
>>737616536Yes, that's the kind of person that's offline for 30 days. Real men are online 24/7/365.
>>737616487No, I choose to play on console because they still have physical media, steamie. Your retarded fat leader gaben killed physical PC releases and you lick his crusty asshole for it.
>>737614481>That is not to say is not shitty but FULL license nullification without online authentication is absurd, what issue is that they are trying to solve here?Its the age verification thing pushed by UK.
>>737616332?Nigga, if my PC got wiped I'd have to install drivers and shit, forget about games.
>>737616447Unfortunately it wouldn't matter if they were anywhere else. California policy decides US policy for these matters, and nobody can afford to lose the US market, so yeah. Valve and Nintendo will implement it too if future CA laws demand even though they're in Washington and Kyoto.
>>737616416>You can do the same with steam you clueless idiotReally? So you can go on there and backup your brand new $70 game and burn it onto a disc or put it on a hard drive and play it forever without ever doing online check ins and without ever installing steam again?>but gog can suspend your license Then make backups before they do? Are they going to send a signal that will make your discs stop working? I have a feeling you’re being a dishonest pcbro but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. I don’t use steam so I’ll let you enlighten me.
>>737613365Licenses are nothing new though? I remember having to validate my games on PSP and PS Triple too.
>>737616171>I’m one of the few true believers left who mostly buys physicalAnon, literally the majority of console players still buy physical. The only reason people like the retard you're replying to think that digital makes up the majority is because the data includes digital only games.You can't buy a physical digital only game so it skews the data making it look like people prefer digital when the reality is that, when given a choice, roughly 70 to 80 percent of players opt for physical.
>>737616595>because they still have physical media, steamie.So do I>NOOOO YOUR HDD ODESNT COUNT IT'S NOT PHYSICAL @CIA ARREST THIS MAN ALREADY!!!!!Cry harder, consolecattle. Mandatory online checks are your future now.
Unironically whose Lance McDonald, is he some trustworthy leaker or just some random dude on twitter, never heard of him but I also don't may attention to leakers so it's entirely possible I just never heard of him
>>737615639if you have the money to go on month long holidays you have the money to rebuy a game
someone has to test the 30 day offline on the console and see if it can still play the game offline surely someone will if someone really likes a game they should find an alternative like pirating.
>>737613365I think this is a bug on the PS4. Why would they need to reverify a owned Digital license that has already been verified? It makes sense for PS+ licenses but not sure the reason for doing it with owned licenses.
>>737616638I can goldberg it, zip it up and it'll be there forever, yes Consolecucks think games are fucking voodoo apparently
>>737616691he's an evil chud retard that hacks bloodborne for a living
>>737616609>pretending to miss the point this hardif a switch or a ps4 needs to be wiped you can still use your physical games offline without needing the internet. Not so with steam.>>737616662You don't own shit, steamie. Steam is DRM, no matter how hard you kvetch and convince yourself going all digital was a good idea. The minute they require verification I'm out of modern gaming entirely. You can keep your gay shit. I have an endless library regardless.
>>737616638>Really? So you can go on there and backup your brand new $70 game and burn it onto a disc or put it on a hard drive and play it forever without ever doing online check ins and without ever installing steam again?Yes, it's as simple as replacing a bin file and copying the source folder into whatever storage you want. That probably sounds like darknet hacking to you though
>>737616350>same as discord shit started on uk/australia and now they want to spread to other countriesDiscord walked it back and delayed because everyone cancelled their Nitro subs. Next autumn they're going to try again, lets see what happens, will Discord walk back again and give up like Onlyfans when it banned porn, or will Discord force the push and kill itself in the process.
>>737616553Yeah that isn't actually a thing. This is why you don't listen to an AI summary of ignorant journalists
>>737613835Truth nuke. Bunch of retards here.
>>737616595Consoles have DRM on the hardware sideThat's the sole reason they're even bothering to make it even though it's going extinct
Waiting on the PS5 disc drive to have a 30day check-in as well.
>>737613365is sony retarded? the PS at the point barely survives
>>737616764>this isn't actually a thing>it's not real if I say it isn't!!!!3DS games are already dying, like Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire.>>737616784>YOU NEED THE CONSOLE TO PLAY THE GAMES MADE FOR THE CONSOLE, THAT'S DRM!!!!Steamies really are retarded, kek
>>737613365AHAHAHAHAHA*cough*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*wheeze*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>737616812being retarded is exactly what put them in the "barely survives" situation in the first place, yes.Moving to Cuckiefornia was the first step in its downfall.
>>737613365i remember an ad in which playstation mocked xbox one for its insane drmfunny how that went
So where are the thousands if not millions of articles about this being an extremely anti consumer move?
>>737616827>3DS games are already dyingProblem is that we haven't had any reports of games dying. That ORAS instance was from a specific bad batch, if that weren't the case then we would be seeing an instance for every game released before that too.
>>737613835Being able to afford to stay online is not the point retard, it's about not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal despite being a actual paying customer
>>737613365>turn off PS servers once ps4 is far outdated>turns the Playstation into a paperweight since you cant play anything on it anymorelmaoross pls save us from the clutches of american goyism
>does nothing>pchuds still wonned
>>737616704>game lost>achievements lost>screenshots lost>saves lostnah, I would just go full piratefuck this shit
>>737613365Isn't that steam's policy?
>>737616827You have a separate soc inside your cuckbox that specifically protects Sony from you having freedom on your console Can you mod games? Can you install it on any hardware you want or just specific one that Sony let's you use?Can you change the settings, access the files, customise the game at all?Can you install another operating system?That's your DRM
>>737616738>>737616758>steam trannies being dishonest cultists Whoa, imagine my shock. Imagine paying for digital. God I hope the fat Jew dies and the new head Jew fucks you just as hard as snoy does to their own faggot customers.
>>737616907It literally was just found and since there's no response by Sony no one really knows if this is for DRM or PS+ subscription or something else. Those article will come out when people know more
You have a license for that there video game
>>737616968It's a console. It lets me play the games I want to play offline. Same as the NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc etc. Retarded steamie trying to make everything a PC.
>>737616741>YOU DONT OWN SHIT YOU DONT YOU DONT YOU DONT WAAAAAAAHHH!!You gonna take my HDD out of my hands? Im holding it out for you.No? What's wrong? Too scared? >The minute they require verification I'm out of modern gaming entirelyNo you wont. You wouldve quit gaming back when they brought in this shit with the PS3 if that were the case. You're cattle, you'll make excuses for them and you'll cry and point fingers at others when your gaystation gets even worse to feel better about yourself. As you have always done.
>>737617001>Asking AIlol snoy moment
>>737616907Come on, you know journalists won't risk losing Sony's hush money.
>>737617024I have the receipt saved and printed I'll see you in court.
>>737616546How is anyone supposed to know if timer is hidden or just doesn’t exist?We won’t know for 30 days when it’s actually tested.
>>737617001>Official copiesWhat do you get out of that? If it's about the money you should have pirated to begin with If it's about wanting to give the game to someone then just give them a goldberg version or use steam family sharing For preservation? Buy a hard drive and bubble wrap itThe only use case of physical is vanity when you want to take a picture of your sõy reddit shelf to get karma
>>737616741Somehow you kept being a console cuck when they told you to pay for the internet you already pay for, or that you lose the right to easy refunds the second you start downloading the game. So you won't do shit.The "drm" of steam is nothing compared to cucksoles.
>dynamic sales>now thisWhat next will they push? Actual video ads (outside of the gaming space) in the OS unless you pay for the highest PS+ tier?
>>737613365so much for consoles being the last castle of physical media in gamin LMFAOOO
>>737617051check the tos faggot
>>737617051>ignores the point You’re in a cult bro. Gaben will never suck your dick for paying him to own nothing or for defending his Jewish service online.
>>737616595PS5 requires an internet check to use your disk drive. Xbox has basically had the same DRM since the Xbone. Nintendo is rolling out GKC's. And these things will only accelerate. Physical is dead bro. I mean I have a physical collection for older systems myself, but there's literally zero point in buying physical for the current gen of consoles, you're just hoarding plastic because you can't let goAnd physical copies aren't needed on PC because everything has been digitally preserved and is easily accessible, retard. You can get ROMs and pirated copies of just about any game you can think of
>>737617032>It's a console so all the DRM doesn't matter Ok, it's a pc so steam DRM doesn't matter because you can literally remove it
>>737617001>NOOO VALVE'S OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS STATE-Bahahaha here's the smoking gun that consolekeks are braindamaged browns that cant do anything without corporate supervision
>>737617124>goalpost movedYou lied and got caught. Have a good night, kike.
post your face when you never bought a PS5
>>737617213>Goalpost movedYes, here>>737617032If a console doesn't need to have those features then you don't need to worry about officially licenced and functionally redundant physical media
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>>737617175Nigger, you’re literally defending paying to own nothing. Your “own” just makes you look even more retarded. If you need to resort to non official methods to preserve your purchase then why THE FUCK DIDN’T YOU JUST PIRATE IN THE FIRST PLACE? Circumcised valve cattle will never answer this. At least le Gaben gets another yacht though, am I right :)
>>737617040>he thinks he can just swap HDDs out completely offline to a wiped or different PC and steam will let him do itKEK>You wouldve quit gaming back when they brought in this shit with the PS3 if that were the caseSchizobabble. On the PS3 it was 0.1% of games that did it. A complete meme and non issue. Also, I own more retro games than modern shit. I'm not like you faggots consuming endless modern slop.>>737617130I have never and will never pay for PS plus. I do not buy digital slop. Not my problem. What now, faggy? >>737617160>PS5 requires an internet check to use your disk driveThe OG PS5 requires no such thing and only certain models of the add-on disk drive require a check in, they backpedalled on that after people started complaining.>>737617174Yes, it does not matter. Just like when I play a SNES game on my SNES.
>>737613365is this only for new purchases or since i didnt boot up my PS4 in like 2 years i'll have my digital games unplayable now?
>state of snoys
>>737617320yup, hilarious how they always start to talk about cracking the games they bought. Fucking retards.
>>737617320Yes, correct. Pc chads can always just pirate. Console cucks only do what a corporation permits.>>737617156>snoy starts screaming about cultismlol
>>737613526McFaggots wording reeks of clickbait. "suspended" would be the more apt choice, but that wouldn't qualify as engagement ragebait.There is of course a chance "removed" is the correct word, but fat fucking chance that'll fly anywhere outside of burgerland, and there's no way snoy doesn't know they will get drawn and quartered by every single 1st world court of law if they tried to do that.
>>737617329If what the twitter dude says is right, you'll still have your games because this only effects new games and you won't loose a game, you'll just need to be connected to the internet after 30 days to play it. Looking at the tweet, I've seen some people in the comments calling him a retard whose confusing his ps subscription with a drm check, and if that's the case so long as you actually bought the games you'll be ok
>>737613365That's seems to me like criminal activity by Sony
>>737613365STOP KILLING GAMES
>>737616661That’s likely the case for Nintendo but MS & Sony are heavy on digital.The % breakdown can be slightly misleading here, even if the overall picture is generally accurate. For example, physical at 3% is because Sony only recognizes full revenue from first party games, while it recognizes a lower royalty value from third party games. This is different for digital games and add on content where it recognizes full revenue from both first and third party content. A more apt comparison is that physical software accounted for 24% of unit sales. While this is still a low %, it still means 73 million physical games were sold during the year. At the end of the day, physical continues to decline each year, and as you can tell from the chart, add on content and subscriptions are making up a significant part of revenue these days.
>>737617328Ok, it doesn't matter that steam has DRM because you can remove itYou don't get to downplay the limitations of physical consolecuckery while screaming about another platform that's better at playing games due to its features
>>737613437Friendly reminder that all this kind of shit inevitably gets rolled out to all consoles without fail. Consoles have become cancer incarnate.
>PS+ acquired game -> check-in is set to when your PS+ expiry date is (how it's always been)>New digital purchases -> check-in is set 30 days from last online connectionBit retarded if you suddenly are without internet for a long period (vacation to nowhere or somewhere super rural)
>>737615721And they definitely wouldn't sneak in rootkits on cdroms, ever.
>>737614858>3rd parties are pushing themPocope harder. This is all Nintendo. They know full well how to boil you frogs. They want all digital just as badly, but to also eat their cake too with a physical presence. At this rate you're just going to end up with a key in a box.
>>737617328>he thinks he can just swap HDDs out completely offline to a wiped or different PC and steam will let him do itSteam literally cant do anything to stop me from doing that, yes. Neither can you.The HDD's on my PC table, take it anytime you're ready>>737617320>>737617363>Can you do X?>Yes, this is how>WHY WOULD YOU DO X EHEN YOU CAN DO Y YOU ARE RETARDEDsnoykeks are a really sad breed of cattle.
>>737617328>The OG PS5 requires no such thingYeah, you're only stuck with the oldest, loudest, shittiest model with the worse performance which will become less and less available as time goes on. This is cope bro. If you can't see the way the wind is blowing, there's no helping you, PS6 will likely only have the separate DRM disk drive with the required internet check and you'll still be going ''but I own the disk!!''>they backpedalled on that after people started complaining.No they haven't. Source?
>>737617396>Pc chads can always just pirateIndeed. So then why the fuck are you defending the mongoloid tier practice of paying Valve to play games and using steam? People on consoles pay because console piracy is far more difficult. But why are you paying then? Pirating PC games is easy. So why are you paying Valve for the privilege of cracking what you just paid money for? Are any of you actually going to answer that or keep changing the subject?
>>737617320>No you cant do that! IT'S NOT OFFICIAL!!!btfo this cope all the way back here >>737616487Official means nothing to be since I own my product and Steam has no influence after concluding the purchase. Mind blowing, huh?
probably because they don't want their games to be downloaded for free like it happened with the ps3 and vita. the literally have a fake store where you can download any game for free.
>>737613365keep killing games
>>737615504>WE'RE ONLY FUCKING YOU IN THE ASS A LITTLE! PLEASE IGNORE THE DOZEN DRAGON DILDOES LINED UP NEXT TO YOU
>>737617781This does nothing at all to stop hacked consoles.
It is hilarious how as time goes on bullshit of the past come back and is accepted, from horse armor DLC to now always online consoles
>>737613517>>737613550>>737615370back then we would just put a relevant pic, the relevant bit in the text field and an archive link to the article, you retard
>>737617809that is even better to know but at the same time it makes me question why they would even fucking do it then.
>>737617810seems like xbox won in the end
>>737617483Lol, that's always how consoles have worked. You don't get to shit your pants over the fact you can only play games made for a console on that console.>>737617597>Steam literally cant do anything to stop me from doing that, yes. Neither can you.fucking lmao, pathetic steamcuck. It doesn't work like that. You WILL need to sign in.>>737617645I have none of those issues.>source
>>737617752I buy games from.devs I like and want to support. I also peel off the corporate sicker so if valve tries any funny business I wont be affected. Sounds like you're extremely salty about needing to pay money and not owning your games. That's a console problem
>>737617752Because they want to support developers and Steam for being a good store and use Steam's features?You consoleniggers have a fucking battered wife relationship with everything
>>737617810microsoft is always pushing the overton window so they can do their shitty practices eventually
>>737617492I miss when consoles were きのう. Now they're shit.
>>737617597>Can you do X?>Yes, this is how>WHY WOULD YOU DO X EHEN YOU CAN DO Y YOU ARE RETARDEDYou’re still dodging the question. I already told you why Consolefags pay for games: Because console piracy isn’t easy. So why are you paying Valve to play something that’s just a few clicks and downloads away? Do you like giving money away for nothing? I knew Valve fags were kool aid drinking cultists but goddamn. I have an even lower opinion of you subhumans now. Btw, this isn’t a PC vs consoles thing, you fags seem to be obsessed with spinning it this way. I already said that I support GoG and pirating PC games. Paying Valve for absolutely nothing is where I start questioning your sanity. You obviously won’t give me a non cope response or shift goal posts, though. Sad.
>>737617869>Google AI slop resultsLMAO. Not a source. I accept your concession
>>737617904>that's a console problemsteamies own nothing. At least say GOG, you cultist.
>>737613835you may never lose internet access but that does nothing for you when sony turns off their servers
>>737617869>It doesn't work like that. You WILL need to sign in.see >>737616758>replacing a bin file and copying the source folder into whatever storage you wantI feel so sorry for you. You're such cucked cattle you think I cant do something I clearly have many, many times just because Claude said no. How utterly pathetic
>>737615839>Anyone who says this never owned a PS4 or PS5Yeah that's me
>instance #234987234 of coping broke pclard incels discovering something that has been in place for decades just to shit on consoles that they can't affordpctimmies are the most cucked gaming userbase on earth
>>737613483Why do you care about what I do in my life?
>>737617904>>737617910>I-I le do it to support the devsYou don’t actually believe this, but thanks for at least trying to give an actual answer.
>>737617965Well I clearly do own my purchases and neither steam or you can do anything about it. So, cry harder, I guess?>>737617942>Because console piracy isn’t easy. So why are you paying Valve to play something that’s just a few clicks and downloads away?Because I like Team cherry. Next question.
>>737617949>doesn't know AI just aggregates already available infoNo, I accept YOUR concession, faggot. If you want to dig deeper google it yourself, niggy.>>737617972>STEAM LETS ME DO IT IN THIS WAY THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED, THANK YOU GABEN FOR LETTING ME PAY TO LICK YOUR CRUSTY ASSHOLElmao, steamkeks are a different breed.
As usual, they just become completely unchinged and start bitching about steam.
>>737617869>Lol, that's always how consoles have worked.>my dad has always beaten me so i don't consider it a negativeok, you objectively have less rights when it comes to playing games than a pc and emulation
>>737618058>THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED,see >>737616487You're such obedient cattle that I predicted your meltdown an hour ago. How sad.
>>737618112>unchingedSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR PC BRAHMIN RACE
>>737615019Yes, but their timer is shorter, like 2 weeks., happened to me once when i wanted to play my digital copy of Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 during the holidays and i hadn't turned on the console for weeks, had to find a wifi spot in the middle of nowhere to renew the licenses.
steam is online activation DRM too and the offline mode requires online checks so if you try to go offline and activate offline mode it wont even work.
>>737618016>um, no you dontConcession accepted
>>737617810and who the fuck is in favor of always online consoles?
>>737618016>You don’t actually believe thisno, you don't actually believe thisdevelopers get a smaller share out of physical and reselling console physical is tantamount to piracy, you're depriving them of sales
>>737618191>he doesnt knowdidnt you get btfo enough for one day?
I fucking love owning my video games.
>>737613854You don't buy games, you buy a license to a game no matter what platform you're on. Console, PC, doesn't matter. You are NOT buying a game.If you want to keep the game forever, you'll just have to buy the license on a platform where the game doesn't have DRM and then store the data on live redundant storage (so it doesn't get lost). The DRM free platform is usually going to be PC or using emulators - you can buy the license on any platform that has a good emulator and is old enough not to require online access. Consoles are hardware DRM, so with online access requirements it might be difficult to emulate.
>>737618191Most games in steam donr actually have any drm. Minimal they depend on steamapi.dll, which theres countless steam free implementations you can just drop into the game folder and launch the exe.
>>737616332Why would I wipe the storage I keep my games on to reinstall my OS?I know zoomers don't know how file systems worth but surely you fags must know a PC can have multiple storage devices. Plus I can just throw all that shit on a server made out of one of my old PCs. I can fill that shit up with all the DRM free games and ROMs I have and never need to connect to the internet againGood luck doing that when you're sucking on console corporation dick, that learned helplessness will not get you far.
>>737618191tf you on about? I have a spare PC that's not been connected to the internet since last summer and I can still play my Steam games on it
>>737618184Use your primary console.There's no checks for the primary console.
>>737618131I'm literally originally a PC only gamer. I simply saw the writing on the wall when I bought the orange box and it required me to use the internet to play Half Life 2. If you think buying a game from steam isn't DRM (even if there's workarounds) you're retarded, it's as simple as that. Why even buy the game in the first place if you can just pirate it? The answer is that you're a steamie. That's all it is. You want every game to provided to you from gaben's asshole. No other method will do.
>>737618324...so there are checks after all?
>>737618320Yeah it works until the game runs into some file verification error that you cant resolve unless you take steam online. Or the token gets wiped for whatever reason and you go online.
Im sure the license would be renewed if you reconnect to the internet, its literally tied to your psn profile. Steam basically does the same bullshit if you dont connect for long enough, and a lot of games on pc require an internet check, and not to mention that physical is not even a thing on there. This is literally a nothing burger
>>737618354>Why even buy the game in the first place if you can just pirate it?because you're white and you can interpret the meaning of things beyond the most animalistic surface level?
>>737618369No. There aren't any for the primary console.
>>737618369NTA but if you're putting DRM on yourself then that's on you.
>>737618354>gets so utterly btfo he cant argue any more>NO IM NOT ACTUALLY CONSOLECATTLE! ALSO WHY DO YOU BUY GAMES ON PC WHEN YOU CAN PIRATE?!?!?!btfo this """argument""" too back when another one of your cattle ilk tried it, see >>737617904Just stay down and eat shit like it befits you. You are cattle and that's all you'll ever be.
>>737613838Commies are pro-workers. Capitalists are pro-customers. You absolute retard
So? It only affects games. Sonybros are unaffected.
I just downloaded black flag and i see nothing of sort, the only games on my console that have a timer are the ps+ games for obvious reasons.
>>737618541
>>737618445>>737618515The point is that if you buy a game but it's not actually yours, why even buy it in the first place and not pirate it? Also, I'm not going to pay for air, which is what digital games are. Either sell me a physical game or fuck off. You own nothing. Only cucks pay for nothing. Steamies are the ultimate cucks, worshipping some yachtfaggot.
>>737618354Don’t bother, dude. Steamies are too far gone. I bet it would blow their mind if someone told them that everyone hated the idea of Steam when Half Life 2 first came out. This is what years of corporate propaganda and reddit posting does to a rational person. They better hope gaben lives for several more decades. Especially since they’re so keen on throwing money at him for doing absolutely nothing for them.
>>737613483Several months may pass when I don't boot up my console at all because there are no games to play, so I'm really glad to lose even that one game I might mistakenly buy sometime LMAOThis is the most dystopian bullshit I've ever heard of
>>737618586>The point is that if you buy a game but it's not actually yoursYou talking about console games?You have a separate soc inside your cuckbox that specifically protects Sony from you having freedom on your consoleCan you mod games?Can you install it on any hardware you want or just specific one that Sony let's you use?Can you change the settings, access the files, customise the game at all?Can you install another operating system?by comparison, ALL of these are pc featuresYou can't make your game yoursI can
>>737617328>On the PS3 it was 0.1% of games that did it. A complete meme and non issue.>>737618354>I simply saw the writing on the wall when I bought the orange box and it required me to use the internet to play Half Life 2.I love it every time this happens. Bully consoletards hard enough and they'll try so hard to one-up you that they'll argue against themselves like this. Fucking amazing
>>737618615It was a big deal at the time, I remember. People just got used to it, it's a damn shame. But steam WILL get worse, absolutely. I just cannot wrap my head around willingly throwing money away without actually gaining anything.
>>737613437N64Chad reporting in.
>>737618586>but it's not actually yours,It is mine though.One of the things you can do to products you own is modify them at your discretion to better suit your needs. Another concept completely alien to consolecattle
>>737613437lol i bought a switch and a bunch of cartridges for this very reason.
So it’s nothing
>>737618672>>737618615>Steam will definitely get worse one day! You wont get away with this forever!!!Just look at the beaten, exhausted cattle slink away back to their pens. You choose to live like this, btw.
>>737618058>>doesn't know AI just aggregates already available infoGoogle AI will literally just make shit up based on a post it picked up from a reddit thread somewhere. Reading the first line from an AI slop search is not research. So where's the source?
>>737618649You genuine retard, lmao. You can count the games that did this on the PS3 with two hands. Even in the current gen something like 90% of games work offline. Steam is DRM for all the games on the platform. If you can't see the difference between the two you're completely braindead. Then again, you pay for nothing.
>>737618557it might be a delayed or region specific rollout so you don't get all the outrage online at the same time
>>737618774>steamie nervously repeats the mantra to himself that his digital only library won't be worth even less one daykek
>>737613365oi m8 you got a loicense for dat vidya gaem?
>>737618695>>737618641How the fuck does modding the game changes the fact that you're paying for a license to use the game instead of owning the actual game? You literally depend on the license owner not wanting to fuck you over in order to not lose all the shit you paid for because you don't own it >ConsolesYou can pirate PC games
>>737618863your snoybox will literally kill itself one day due to its soldered ssd wearing outyour discs are functionally inferior to steam and pirated copiespeople can still play 20 year old games on their newest hardwarecan you play ps2 games on a ps5?
>valve fags calling anyone cattleHoly cognitive dissonance. I could understand if you’re a PC gamer who only uses gog and pirates/emulates everything. You guys are cool and the Jews hate you. But a steamie subhuman pretending he isn’t completely cucked because he *checks notes* “likes to support the devs”. Lmao. I wonder if they’ll mass suicide once the fat man goes off to the great synagogue in the sky one day? Thanks for the laughs, drones.
>>737618903>You literally depend on the license owner not wanting to fuck you over in order to not lose all the shit you paid for because you don't own itSee >>737617597. HDD's still on the table, btw.
Nintendo WONthe Switch 2 is the best vidya system ever
>>737613365Reminder that owning things is communism
>>737618810>You can count the games that did this on the PS3 with two hands. Even in the current gen something like 90% of games work offline.>look at the OPOops!
>>737613483If PSN goes down all of these games are on a 30 day timer before they become unplayable. It doesnt matter that you paid for them and downloaded them and all of the data is currently on your console.
>>737618938PS7 or 8 will be out by the time these shit the bed so that’s hardly a concern aside from those who prefer to play retro stuff. Personally you couldn’t pay me to play a 20 year old game, I once tried FF7 classic and was nauseous. Disgusting was too kind a word for how that and many old games aged for me.
>>737619008>Connect HDD to a new PC>Game won't boot until steam allows it to or unless you crack itHow does that prove you right?
>>737618903you describing consoles there?every single game you have ever bought has been a licence
PS Plus price hike is next. Spread your anuses wider
>>737619019what game?i need coomer games on my switch
>>737618401I think it's more of the issue that people don't trust sony to keep this operational foreverYou can pick up a ps2 today, put in a game and just play it. Who knows if that'll be possible 20-30 years in the future for PS4 games?
>>737618938You literally cannot even play Half Life 2 on the actual systems it launched on because steam dropped Windows XP support, you faggot. Go on, tell me why that's a good thing, you steamie gaben cultist. >>737618791https://xcancel.com/Zuby_Tech/status/1995497317173272967Do your own research next time, retard.
>>737618992>*checks notes*
>>737619132senran kagura reflexions
>>737619110>consolesWhere did I say anything about consoles? Just because consoles do that shit it doesn't mean Steam isn't also doing it
>>737619043We're talking about physical games, you retard.
>>737619107>Connect HDD to a new PC>Game won't boot unless you crack it>which you can do in 2 minutes >and nobody can do anything about it because you own the gameAs I've said many times, the idea of acting without corporate approval is scary to you cattle. It's why you get mandatory online checks and I dont. Enjoy!
>>737619126They’ll probably bump up extra adding the garbage Sony pictures catalog to it not sure how they could make premium appealing. Times trials are a joke, it’s a scam tier as is.
>>737619136>steam dropped Windows XP supportno, that's not who dropped windows xp supportif you want to cry about anyone, cry about microsoftyou don't get to use a completely dead operating systems like it's fresh and supported, work for it you idiot
>>737619302pfft lmao
>>737613365Pretty sure after 30 days your license is invalid, not removed. Connect and reactivate I bet.
You faggots won't do shit.
>>737619250So you admit you do not own the game and must resort to piracy (something against Steam ToS) in order to actually take the games from Valve? Nice that we can agree
>>737618557it's only for newly bought games
>>737619175gog is also doing itstarforce and securom also did it before they killed themselvesif you want to have your physical then go back in time and prevent internet from existing
>>737618541heh
>successfully derailed the thread from laughing at always online PS checks to a Steam vs PS consolewarWe did it, xisters! Keep up the good work in the next thread too! Until Jason Shreier comes up with a new narrative to spin this in our favor!
>>737616595You subhumans are so stupid it'd be pitiful if it weren't so funny.
>>737613365Steam chads can't stop winning
>>737619361look up how windows gained its relevance and maybe you'll stop siding with them
>>737619173tycan i enter the senran kagura series with that or do i need to play the other games for lore
>>737619386Or just pirate the games until they understand it
>>737619369>piracy (something against Steam ToS)see >>737616487, >>737616662I get so much mileage out of these posts because you cattle just cant imagine playing games without corporate oversight. Fucking lmao
So is Lance being a disingenous cunt saying this will 'remove your licenses' as if they're taking away your purchase?
>>737619250>still bragging about giving away money to crack “his” own gameAbsolutely embarrassing. If only you were self aware enough to realize how absolutely insane this makes you look to anyone who doesn’t have a portrait of Gabe Newell on his bedroom wall. I used to think die hard Nintendo fags were the biggest cultists but this thread is making me question that. At least Nintendo makes games. What was the last worthwhile game Valve made? All that endless dicksucking for an absolute leech of a company that hasn’t done anything relevant in over a decade. Wait, they popularized micro transactions with hat fortress 2. Based lord Gaben!
>>737618753>resetera copeThat place and neofag before it is like sjw snoy shill hq. Of course they’re coping and begging for it to be fake
>>737613365This is just some twitter retard who shares games with a friend. If your ps isn't set as your primary console(in order to share) you will need to do online checks for the license. In other words, retarded fucking twitter thread.
>>737614826>discs just workFuck I wish. Had my launch model stop reading them and sent it in while under warranty and the one they sent back stopped reading them like a year later once the warranty went out.
>>737619498>At least Nintendo makes gamesBing bing wahoo to you good sir
im thinking sony wants people to jailbreak consoles
>>737618354based, piracy has always been a gamer's greatest friend, normalniggers can't stop sucking corporation cock every second there is and actually get offended by it
>>737616870funny how xbox fans stood up, rejected and killed the brand over them trying this, yet sony fanboys just shrug and take it
>>737619479You're still pirating the games, you still have to work around the fact that buying those games from Steam don't mean you're the owner, you're not proving me wrong there>cant imagine playing games without corporate oversightI can, that's why I pirate my PC games instead of buying a good goy license like a fucking retard
>>737619476if you pirate games then they'll stop making it, idiotthe current system works for the vast majority of people and any alterations to it will severely destabilise itand for what? so you scrounging niggers can save pennies on reselling when you could just be quiet and pirate?
>>737619498>that seething jealousyIt's gotta sting knowing that I can choose to support the devs I want and can actually own my games, something you have absolutely no say over. Speaking of, it's almost time for your mandatory online check-in! Im sure you dont want your account banned for disobedience!
>>737613815>physical media>has switch 2 games in the pictureoh no no no no bros who's gonna tell him???
>>737619619Paying for all that storage is more expensive than buying games on sale atp
>>737619425You're a drooling retard that take the word of a twitter screencap threads.
>>737619619>if you pirate games then they'll stop making itOr they start selling them to me like they used to, I think they would rather make slightly less money than no money at all
>>737619614>NO I TOTALLY PIRATE! STOP LAUGHING AT ME!!!It's so hard to take you cattle seriously at this point lmao
>>737619498Good. You sad consolecucks need to start banding together to put up any sort of real fight.
>>737613457subhuman journoloids are so mad that twitter replaced them
>>737619664They are physical?
>>737618557It's for people that share game by setting each others consoles to their primary console. It's a massive nothing burger
>>737619476>>737619619you dont need to pirate, if they make trash then just play other games. Same effect.If ps5 becomes a mandatory online live service slop then whats the difference to playing phone games? None. I will just play f2p shit on phone and never buy a playstation again. This shit already proves not buying ps5 was the right move. Ps4 will be my last playstation with the way things are going.
>>73761967418tb hard drive costs $445 right now>>737619689>Or they start selling them to me like they used tono, console physical is going extinct >>737616784allowing digital reselling is a complete financial suicide as it's simply too good and would kill new game sales or force everyone to adopt super aggressive drm, the opposite of what you wanted
>>737619797Can fit 17 100TB games on it
>>737619136Still not fixed. Also having to tiptoe around certain models to even be able to play games offline is beyond cucked and admission of defeat
>>737619674what kind of retarded bullshit is this? you need the space either way you know that right?
>500 posts of retards arguing about who is getting fucked slightly lessLet’s be honest, unless you’re /vr/ only or a pirate chad, you’re getting fucked either way. Take the retro pill and never look back. None of these scumbag companies are worth supporting. Most modern games are garbage anyway.
>>737619548The problem is that isn't how it works on PlayStation.
>>737619856No, the games are stored on valve servers and i download them when i need to at Gbit speeds
Does Sony want me to sell my PS5 and only use my laptop? Because this is how they get me to sell my PS5 and only use my laptop.
>>737619726Being the astronomical retard he is he probably believes that every switch 2 game is a game key.
>>737619570steamies are the worst of the worst when it comes to this. gaben can do no wrong in their eyes. Not even tendies blindly worship a corpo this hard.
>>737619918No one cares about your uncslop
>>737619704>no rebuttal I accept your concession
>>737619918The funny thing is I took the retro pill ages ago. That's why I keep telling retards not to pay for air. I'm on /vr/ way more than on /v/ lmao.
>>737619975Name 500 games
Fuck Sony >>737619362>you are not raped>your asshole is just destroyed
>>737619764It's not about the game's quality, the point is just that if buying isn't owning then why should I buy it?
>>737620025https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_(console)-only_games
>>737619918The meltdown started because a consoletard found out about goldberg and promptly lost his shit. They're beyond saving, honestly.
>>737619797>consoleI'm talking about PC games, they used to come in disks too, you dumb zoomer
>buy game on sale on steam>download and copy files>apply crackProblem, poor niggers?
>>737620104people mock you because you think buying a game only to still need to crack it is somehow owning the game, lmfao
>>737613365Stop killing games
>>737620051The thing you modern pirates can't comprehend is that buying IS owning. You own the COPY of the media you've bought, what you don't own is the property.
>>737620071damn that inuyasha ps1 game came out in 2003
>>737619929It does, I've done it with my bro. Your own account will be treated as a secondary account and will have to check for license, while the shared accounts games won't.
>>737620150Still seething and making shit up in your head huh, consolecuck?
>>737620150It is
>>737620115yes, used to, then the internet happened and they had to put drm on those games to prevent everything from turning into fucking legal sharewareso it's internet or physical, pick one
>>737620163>buying IS owning>digitranny unironically believes this>>737620174based PS! got some very late releases indeed. I need to finish inuyasha at some point.>>737620192>it's not real if I say it's notjej, you got BTFO
>>737619528It’s a nothing burger but by all means keep barking like you know better
>>737620163If you can't use the game without the seller's permission then you don't own it, to own the data you should be able to use it without any need for workarounds.
>>737620230>he's still tryingCant mod games if you dont own them. Try not to let it get you down, cuck.
>>737620306>needs to crack a game he boughtcuckie steamie gaben asshole licky
>>737619935>delets his own gaymesretarded. why are you buying games you dont want to play
>>737620336Dark brown nigger, you reek
>>737620226What? Physical PC releases were a thing up to the late 2000s where internet was already a thing >it's internet or physical, pick oneThen I pick not giving them any money, which is what I do already
>>737620329>so btfo he's reverted to child babbleSony trained you cucks really well, imagine needing online authorization to play your purchased games (licenses). Couldnt be me.
>>737620401you lost
>>737620051the point is if you pirate you still enable them. You should drop them entirely for maximum damage.
>>737620417concession accepted consolecuck
>>737620457whatever you say, steamie cuckie
>>737620391and why did they disappear? because everyone was fucking pirating everythingdon't play stupid, the state of pc was miserable during the ps360 days and steam is the only reason it recovered, it provided a viable platform for developers
>>737620476>more child babblelmao
>>737620505>still doesn't own his games>he bought airlol!
>>737620380im white and blue eyed motherfucker
Steamchads keep winning, it comes easy to us, second nature even
>>737620503>and why did they disappearBecause of corporate greed, they saw a way to make more money and jumped at the opportunity. Piracy has existed since the dawn of gaming and yet games weren't struggling to make a profit
>>737620503oh, and physical drm was getting out of control too, it was much more annoying and harder to bypass than steam and unlike it it was less convenient
>>737620589nigger, the sword cuts both waysyou don't get to accuse anyone else of being greedy when the only functional motivation for physical is getting to sell the game off
>>737620532>so butthurt getting the last say is all he can doKek. Enjoy the always online future of console gaming, cuck
>>737620652>steamie looks at his game shelfwow, so soulful... thank you based gabe for letting me own nothing
>>737613365sniggers totally raped and BTFO
>>737620668funny how it's always down to being able to look at plastic so you can post it on reddit to get updootsif you weren't a faggot you'd be satisfied with a hard drive doing the exact same thing
>>737620668Sóyniggers are not sending their best
>>737620668>worships plastic boxes on a shelfYep, stereotypical cultist cuckold snoy
>>737620652>steamie talking about always onlineAHAHAHAHAHA pfffftt HAHAHAHAHAHA>>737620720>>737620729>>737620731>>737620731>they paid money>to own nothing>this much instant seething because they know a digital library is worth fuck allKEKAROOOO
>>737620775Nigger
I'm buying a console that have games with actual game data in cartridges, no online DRM and key card nonsense.
>>737620775you paid money to not own your console lmao
>>737620775>>steamie talking about always onlineyou can easily access steam offline and play your games without an internet connection you technologically illiterate nigger
>>737620775You talking about console games?You have a separate soc inside your cuckbox that specifically protects Sony from you having freedom on your consoleCan you mod games?Can you install it on any hardware you want or just specific one that Sony let's you use?Can you change the settings, access the files, customise the game at all?Can you install another operating system?by comparison, ALL of these are pc features
>>737620805based. I'm getting one too. Retro physical GODS are eating good.>>737620812pffft pathetic lmfao>>737620823>needs to crack games he boughtLOL
>>737620938you're a cuck, see >>737620871
>>737620938>>needs to crack games he bought????????
>>737620956>>737620871>consoles NEED to do more than play games!!!!!!steamie steamie steamie...
>>737620985>consoles are worse at playing games but it's okay because i got some plastic i can post on reddityou don't like games
>>737621018>paying money for air and not actually owning anything is okay because I get to give money to based gaben
>>737621062but you did that, you paid for a console and you're not the administrator on isanother man owns your console and you're okay with it
>>737620282>If you can't use the game without the seller's permission then you don't own itYou absolute retard, that's how it works with EVERYTHING.Why do you think retail workers get pissed when you spray a can of deodorant to test it? Your transaction is permission to use and own it.
>>737621090I own the physical games and can play them completely offline, I can also sell them or trade them for something else. You have a digital goicence. You are a cuck. You own nothing. We are not the same.
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>>737621156>and can play them completely offline>Your 30 days offline period has expired. Please log in to gain access to your paid game.Only consolecucks can live like this
>>737621156yes, the only purpose of owning consoles is to get a refund by reselling, that's how awful the experience isreminder, you don't own your console or your gamesIf you are in Europe, Middle East, Africa, Australia, Oceania, India, the Russian Federation or Ukraine, all games and other software made available for use with your PS5 system are licensed to you, not sold, pursuant to the Software Usage Terms which can be found at https://www.playstation.com/legal/software-usage-terms/.If you are in North America, South America or Central America, all games and other software made available for use with your PS5 system are licensed to you, not sold, pursuant to the Software Product License Agreement which can be found at http://us.playstation.com/softwarelicense.f SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline,
>>737621197>coping this hard>being this retardedYou don't even need an account to play physical games that have the data on disc on PS4 and PS5, lol!
>>737621156>I can also sell them or trade them for something elseImagine being so fucking poor that you cant afford to keep your purchased games, wow. Maybe that's why this little cuck keeps crying about piracy?
>>737621243>this is his best attempt>>737621279I don't sell games I buy, because I only buy good games. But the point is that I have the OPTION to. You have no options besides to suck gaben's cock.
>>737621257>>737619840Thread's about to die and the consolecuck desperate to win this online argument is unaware it was always a lost cause. How tragic.
>>737621336i don't need to try anything, sony has the right to brick your consoleif you don't own your console then you don't own your games since the games are tied to being able to interact with the drm
>>737621336>But the point is that I have the OPTION to......serve up your ass on a platter and gush over corporate branded plastic boxes? Because you certainly dont own shit.
>>737621367You simply own nothing. Sorry you paid for air.>>737621389You don't even need an account to play physical PS4 and PS5 games that have the data on disc. It's incredible the schizobabble you spew, lmfao.
>>737621243EULAs are bullshit and if Sony ever tried any of that, any competent EU judge would annul the fuck out of those terms based on Directive 1993/13.
>>737619528ResetEra shills hard for Transbox
>>737621443>You simply own nothingMy offline games storage says otherwise. Isnt it time for your online authentication, cuck?
>>737621440and you gush over a digital marketplace. Wowie, thank you based gaben for letting me throw my money away for nothing. >>737621504Physical games require no account to play them, schizo.
>>737621443you need a console, that can be bricked according to the agreement, to play games that are reliant on the drm inside the consoleyou are at no point in control here>>737621469no, they're basically the fucking law, no one is going to fight sony for themif they were complete bullshit then those clauses wouldn't even existif sony's ever pushed into tearing it all up then they'll rape their customers in retribution
>>737621558I am in fact in total control. It functions the same way as consoles have functioned from the very beginning. You traded away physical ownership for nothing. Sad!
>>737621443>mo argument>NO YOU OWN NOTHING!!!!Remember, consolekeks are so fucked even this offline console meme he's trying to push is limited to specific versions fo the hardware AND firmware patches (none of which are officially available) that will forcibly go online if you install them in the wrong order.Just to give an overview and why he hates that post
>>737621595>my dad has always beaten me so i consider it normal and don't hold him accountable for itall this talk about customer rights is a complete fucking farce, you consolecucks just use it as a cudgel in your never ending consolewar jihad
>>737621558>EULAs are the lawEULAs aren't worth shit in the EU, are you some kind of americuck?>>737621606Nothing is limited. Buy a base PS4/PS5/Switch and play your games offline forever. Steamkeks just cannot help but guzzle gaben's cum.
>>737621595>I am in fact in total control>OPkek sure you are
>>737620805Enjoy your licences.
>>737621662>EULAs aren't worth shit in the EU, are you some kind of americuck?alright, take them to court over itsee what happens
>>737621606But you DO own nothing. >>737621681They're straight up old school cartridges that even work with the old neo geo, retardo.
>>737621662>purchased the wrong model>firmware update demands an online connectionConsolecucks, lmao. Actual proof and they still squeal the same lines
>>737621243>>737621469 (cont.)Furthermore, traders or suppliers literally cannot change or enforce any of the essential characteristics of a consumer contract through ancillary terms and conditions. The EU Commission has clarified years ago that this does not meet the bar for having proper disclosure to consumers in a way that meets the legally required standards for transparency and clarity.And continuing from that, in a contract to a consumer any terms that have the object or effect of giving the other party to contract the exclusive right to interpretation of the contract (such as "if SIE Inc determines that [..]") are on a black list of terms that may not bind consumers as well.Tough shit if you live in the US though.Then Sony has you over a barrel, because your consumer rights amount to fuck-all.
the steamies on here wouldn't still be fighting unless getting called out about not owning the games didn't bother them hard lol
>>737621098What the fuck are you talking about? If I paid the money for the deodorant can they have no saying on what I can or can't do with it, that's completely different from a license that can be revoked at the seller's whim
>>737621746oh, they absolutely can enforce itthey own the entire ecosystem, operating system, games, everythingjust legally press them and watch them change their tune
>>737621528>Physical games require no account to play them, schizoYour console wont play any game until you go online, little cuckold. This is a known fact
>sony and xbox both doing thisi'd say i hate modern gaming but i mostly game on pc so get fucked console nerds.
>>737621803but you're the one that doesn't mind not owning games yet you people go on a crusade about itYou have a separate soc inside your cuckbox that specifically protects Sony from you having freedom on your consoleCan you mod games?Can you install it on any hardware you want or just specific one that Sony let's you use?Can you change the settings, access the files, customise the game at all?Can you install another operating system?by comparison, ALL of these are pc features
>>737621736based sonyGODS already fixed it and the PS6 will have the same type of offline disc drive. Sorry you wasted your money on air LOL>>737621821Literally wrong. Only the xbox goybox does this. PS and switch do not.
>>737613365The fuck, do they just remove all your games after a month? WHAT
>>737621558>if sony's ever pushed into tearing it all up then they'll rape their customers in retributionThat might happen sooner than you think, considering Sony is involved in an active court case in the Netherlands over price-fixing and the claimant is pushing towards the EU establishing PSN as a gatekeeper, making them subject to the same legislation as Apple and Google - that is: enforcing the ability for 3rd party storefronts and sideloading on the PlayStation platforms.
>>737621871>PS6 will have the same type of offline disc drive.*sold separately
>>737621871>based sonyGODS already fixed it>Doesitplay: It's not fixed, sony doesnt care, if you get this version you're fucked, Im sorryWhat sad little creatures snoys are
>>737621954You lost, digitranny steamie
>>737621975It's even sadder when they project the pain and shame of defeat onto others.
>>737621810>they own the entire ecosystem, operating system, games, everythingApple owns their entire ecosystem as well.Didn't help them one bit in preventing USB-C charging from being a thing on every iPhone.Didn't help them one bit in preventing sideloading from being legally enforced to be usable.Didn't help them one bit in preventing 3rd party app stores from being legally enforced to be usable.Didn't help them one bit in preventing 3rd party browser engines from being legally enforced to be usable.Cry - fucking - more.
>paid money to own airLOL!
>>737621975your entire existence revolves around hating pc because you need corporate validation to effectively pirate games
>>737621712>They're straight up old school cartridges that even work with the old neo geo,Yeah, and they're still just a licence.This is why people like you fuck up the industry, because you have no idea what you're even complaining about.
>>737622082I don't hate pc. I hate steamie cultists and steam for ruining physical pc releases.
>>737621859You know there's more to gaming than consoles or steam, right?>Can you install it on any hardware you want or just specific one that Sony let's you use? Try running steam on Windows XP and same era processors
>>737622115they ruined themselves, snoyno one made them add starforce and securom
>>737621805>that's completely different from a license that can be revoked at the seller's whimNo, no it isn't, you can literally be prevented from buying that can of deodorant if the company wanted to in the exact same way.
>>737622096You gorilla retard. If you buy a physical good and it works forever offline and you can trade it or do whatever you like with it, you own it. You can't do shit with your digital library, digitranny. >>737622138no, your based gaben ruined it and you can't stop sucking his cock. Bring back my big box PC games, faggots.
>>737622057>Didn't help them one bit in preventing sideloading from being legally enforced to be usable.>Didn't help them one bit in preventing 3rd party app stores from being legally enforced to be usable.so you're suggesting sony will just take the prospect of unlocking the bootloader and installing another OS on it?retard, the whole point of console business model is vendor lock-in
>>737621954As much as I like shitting on sonyfags doesitplay is just as much of a faggot as they are.
>>737622124>Try running steam on Windows XP>it's never "games", only "steam">because it knows PChads can just sandbox Windows XP and run games on that if they so choseWhat a sad cuckold you are.
>>737622115NTA but you need to understand Steam is wholly irrelevant for getting PCfags used to buying digital. Everyone hated the idea and even Steam until Blizzard released WoW expansions digitally while having realm first achievements which incentivized people buying digitally so they didn't have to travel to the store and potentially miss out on being realm first. The overton window shifted due to WoW, which was by far the biggest PC game at the time.
>>737622167>If you buy a physical good and it works forever offline and you can trade it or do whatever you like with it, you own it.It's still a fucking licence, you mongoloid nigger.
>>737622124>try running an operating system killed by microsoftliterally drop a single fucking file into the game folder and they're playableyou want to use an operating system that's completely extinguished then you put in the bare minimum amount of work necessary to do so
>>737622219Steam had a huge effect on the industry regardless. Everyone wanted to play Half Life 2 which meant using steam. Then counter strike.>>737622237You effectively own it regardless if you can do what you like with it. A fucking company cannot revoke a license to my physical cartridge or disc, unlike your goicence, steamie.
>>737622167>no, your based gaben ruined it and you can't stop sucking his cock.look up what starforce and securom were before you talkyou're not getting physical pc without drm and you especially wouldn't if it was still alive
>>737622309I know what both are. It doesn't matter. Steam definitively killed big box pc games and that will always suck.
>>737622167>You can't do shit with your digital library, digitranny.>>737622301>You effectively own it regardless if you can do what you like with it.So,Can you mod games?Can you install it on any hardware you want or just specific one that Sony let's you use?Can you change the settings, access the files, customise the game at all?Can you install another operating system?by comparison, ALL of these are pc features>NO THAT DOESNT COUNT!!!!Thought so.
>>737622353>It doesn't matter.because it doesn't fit in with your narrative?>Steam definitively killed big box pc games and that will always suck.why is it always about the homosexual consumerism with you people?
>>737622363It doesn't count, yes. If you buy a game but still need to crack it to play it offline forever you're just paying money for nothing extra hard.>>737622396>steamie complains about consumerism and confuses it with ownershipmany such cases. Also in case you haven't noticed video games are a consumerist hobby. I'd like to actually own my games physically.
>>737622301>Everyone wanted to play Half Life 2 which meant using steamPiracy was a thing, many people simply pirated HL2. TF2 was a game that got people to actually use Steam but that was much smaller than WoW. Games which were always online are what pushed it forward, HL2 really didn't matter when it was super easy to pirate.
>>737622218So yes, you CANNOT play the games you bought on your windows XP rig through steam. Amazing, incredible. Thank you gabe.
