Is /v/ ready for the latest FFXIV expansion, Evercold?
The boys and I are really looking forward to it.
>>737614256I'll warm up to it
I'm not going anywhere near the game again if they haven't done anything about the rampant cheating and modding.I got completely disillusioned when Dalamud broke for two weeks around 8.1 and 90% of my friends list became to ill to do extreme.
ARE YOU JOIN US
>>737614648Why is it endearing when nips speak broken English, but disgusting when shitskins do it?
>>737614730Because you're racist
>>737614256>effort being put into gameplay>at least one waifu>battle pass to satisfy my grindtism (still probably not enough)>Ascians>new shard>limited Scion members (so far)not thrilled that the raid is Evangelion or that they think they've run out of legacy FF jobs, but I'll probably give it a shot. Need more info before I become HYPE like I did for Dawntrail. Took a day off for that piece of shit.
>>737614648I am cum
>>737614487PC players can't help themselves
>>737614730Because nips can create a working society.
>>737614776>>limited Scion memberslmao you know they're never getting rid of them. all of them gonna come in and preach their usual teamwork makes the dream works crap.
>>737614730Because they're not arrogant and know they aren't speaking English well but trying their best.Shitskins, browns e.t.c. speak with awful accents in really bad English but think they can speak fluently and are have a completely arrogant attitude.Jeets and other browns learn the language but don't learn the culture of the language, they are immensely arrogant which makes them immensely unlikable.
I'm good
>put pvpfag in charge of job design>suddenly game is savedhuh
FUCKING BRING BACK METEION I WANT METEION I WANT TO SHOW HER THE WORLD!
>>737614256The story and writing could still be dogshit, but the job revamp and the visuals look good, at least. I'm a bit sad that Warrior and DRK are being designated as off-tanks. Would have liked one of them to be put in main tank role. Really just because those are the two tanks I like to play. I guess I'll have to play Paladin more now.
>>737614487Were they too ill to do extreme because they were using actual cheats or because they were using noclippy that should just fucking be a base game feature
>>737614851it's so tiringall of their arcs are more or less developedthere's nothing interesting they added to their characters in DawntrailI would have been excited on a deeply emotional level if Cid and Nero were in the trailer in their Magicite Armors fighting alongside us and we got Garlemald Ironworks team to join us for an expac.Or even the Scions B-team. I like the Scions, but I cannot express how tired I am of seeing them.
>>737614256I love being reminded what expansion I'm playing on the character screen. My FC won't shut the fuck up about how this is hecking hype, SOOOO much better than dawntrail. Sure buddy, you said the same thing back then too, I bet you'll eat up this "evolved" combat system too.
>>737614730thing japan
>>737614875I hate having 8 fucking buttons for my basic DRG rotation.
>>737614880She's dead jim>but the birdmetaphoricalthe question is is there a corpse left to fuck
>>737614256I would play it if it actually had ANY ICE REGIONS.Also fuck them for putting new animations as extras instead of revamping the shitty old ones.
>no new raceDead on Arrival
>>737614890DRK could be interesting if they revolved around spending HP.We all know this mechanic wouldn’t work as a MT but as an OT that doesn’t receive the brunt of the damage this could work.TBN could cost HP to use and then the DRK would be able to regain that HP through Souleater/Syphon Strike/Blood Weapon.
>>737614935Yeah I think I will actually.
>>737614968since it's a redo of Shadowbringers, maybe every zone has a frost version as well?
>>737614968There will be one, at least. Thats gonna be the final zone obviously. We'll fuck around in the sky zones, and then descend into the ground to defeat some baddie. And the 7.1-7.3 patches will culminate in us is reverting the not-Fimbulvinter on the ground.
>>737614730because nips are human
>>737615025Yawn, everyone knows the middle eastern and ice sections of games are the lowpoint you have to slog through.
PARTY HARD
I'll let you fags betatest it for me. I don't trust the devs after Dawntrail, and I'm not playing through 7.1-7.5 hoping 8.0 is good. I need to know 8.0 is Heavensward tier minimum.
I'm actually a sucker for evangelion.... i might get back to this shitty game after all....
>>737614730Japanese man tries to be relatable and no one expects him to speak english cause he has been living in Japan for all his life and only speaks english for business reasons.Brown people meanwhile have been living in your country for decades - yet they still barely speak english and expect you to understand shit whenever they switch to their foreign tongue.
>>737614961She is not dead lol, why would she?
>>737615047I was playing swtor the other day and boy hoth was awful.
>>737615025Nah, the zones are up in the sky. The world froze over and the people escaped into the sky. Its a sky civilization we're heading to, with a frozen planet under it.So the sky zones won't be frozen over or have a frost version.
>Now 40+ different jobs to balanceHow are they doing it? Are they using AI? If so, I don't mind. As long as they don't use it to make creative assets.
>>737615137Reborn is 100% getting canned on 9.0
>>737614256nah the game is eternally wukked
>>737614256More gay troonslop most likely
>>737615176Yeah everyone expects this just to be a transitional phase>two styles>Yoship already says evolved is slightly better>so everyone is gonna use it>"looks like people love the new style so reborn is getting retired moving forward"
>>737614880She's Buddha, she's escaped Samsara and won't reincarnate
I wonder if every single job will have the exact same amount of buttons to press, that would be slightly disappointing, but overall I'm optimistic with the direction the game is going.
>>737614487>>737614817Sounds like confirmation bias desu.
>>737614880"The World" is what I called my magnum schlong by the way forgot to mention that.
>>737615176I don't get the point of making "easier". This is 100% for the story skip crowd. The game introduces your class at a comfortable rate that let's you learn everything, and if you're picking up a new class thats starts at 60 or something, just watch a youtube video that explains it. Is the average player this low IQ (awnser, yes because alot more women are playing vidya as the become more of an event and circulate around fomo)
I miss her...
>>737615249The ideais to squeeze the button count down to under 16.But I think nuPLD has 17. It had a full crossbar, and then Arms Length on another crossbar. So that alone tells us its not gonna be the same button count across classes.Bring it down to around 16 buttons, less than 16 if possible.
>>737615320I didnt really understand how modern controls work so i cant disagree or agree with you.
>>737615093the Endsinger is Metion and me and 7 other blokes slamed our blades and projected our essence into her
You're trying too hard, brotherman.
>>737614935It's subject to change, if you don't like the bit in the top right go give some feedback on it
>>737615194Never change, 4chan
>>737614931>Or even the Scions B-teamArenvald should have been there for cosmic exploration, but I guess they couldn't step on the toes of the role quests
>>737615025I was thinking it might be something like that but with the frost going away faster this time but I think it's >>737615134
Were so back, trancertroons are in absolute shambles.
>>737615176I think it will be 9.0 gives reborn no new abilities, 10.0 can't do new content and then maybe fully canned in 11.0
>>737615017why wouldn’t it work for mtjust scale their dr% based on hp consumption so they have the same effective hp at all times
Parseniggers killed.
>>737615443>FeedbackpicrelThis better be the menu before you login game. There is NOTHING wrong with the current menu. Windows is a prime example of trying to improve something that works and making it worse.
Sky islands?!https://youtu.be/9dHyXNUl85o
>>737615320With regards to the story skip crowd I don't know why they don't have in game tutorials for rotations, this would be great for expansion jobs that start at higher levels too, I was so fucking lost when I first unlocked Samurai, i've never really touched the later expansion jobs so I don't know how much worse it is now
>>737614863Plus the smell that accompanies them to that attitude for maximum annoyance.
>>737615596I guess it depends how many people drop reborn in 8.0.
>>737615025>>737615520We're probably going to the surface for the last zone and maybe underneath it for the last dungeon (North Crater for the FFVII circlejerk)
>>737615134I think the lava city they showed is on the ground. The whole city seems to be built around an active volcano, that would make no sense if it were flying.
>>737615710>active volcano, that would make no sense if it were flying.That's a mean thing to say to from software
>>737615672So was I, having only played dragoon (of which I had no problem learning) Literally just looked up a youtube guide, practiced on a dummy and I was good. A rotation guide for jobs that start at a high level would be a genuinley good idea.
The reworked jobs look way too barebones, you just have 1 basic combo you press (now all on one button) while you wait for your gauge to fill to give you stocks to spend on your special ability that gives you a second combo (also all on one button)PLD, DRG and BRD all follow this formula, I don't give a shit about healers do I didn't watch WHMHow is this supposed to add job identity when jobs are this basic?
>>737614931They legit could literally use anyone as your companions. You're an adventurer. You could drop in on an imperial world in 40k alone and still get by. There's no good reason we have to keep hanging out with the same few npcs.
>They've shifted to full wolwank after DTBased or cringe?
My prediction for Evercold:They will remove a healer skill, but they will accidentally leave it in as a requirement in some job or role quest locking new players out of progression until they patch it.
>>737615751>How is this supposed to add job identity when jobs are this basic?By getting rid of the 2 minute meta and making the jobs feel different from one another I guess.
>finally button bloat adressedok now give me the first 4 expansions to play FOR FREE no sub requiredmake gunbreaker a DPS only classand im back
>>737615780Based, i'm a legendary hero and should be treated like it
>>737615176>>737615237I think the pace will depend on how many people are still using Reborn. If most people switch fairly quickly, I think we could see Reborn getting dropped sooner.
>>737615780Based, the WoL is the STRONGEST and it should reflect on the way people interact with you. They still need to get rid of Azem's mcguffin and have the WoL solo the bosses, etc THOUGH.
>>737615751>1 basic combo you press (now all on one button)Good change, game does not need 30+ buttons to press Making jobs more action orientated with less buttons to press but combos is a lot betterAre they dropping ps4 consoles and are they upgrading the graphics for pcs made in 2020 finally
>>737615821They're adding shadowbringers to the free trial which I never thought they would so that may happen soon
>>737614851You guys lost, the Scions are here to stay.
>standing in an hours long line for $20 ice creamUSA USA USA
>>737615780Better than the alternative, but they need to be careful they don't overdo it to give the rest of the cast some room to breathe.
>>737615821Shadowbringers is fully free now I think.
>>737614256How well does xiv play on a controller? I'm tired of keyboard inputs they're soulless
>>737615871>>737615902wait actually? isnt the free trial like 7 days only or can you play the whole way
>>737615320It's not really easier, just streamlined and different. You're still doing pretty much most of the same actions with redundancies removed and certain things chained together. This is less about the fact that they want to appeal to casuals strictly (though yes, there is that too), and more about the fact that it's a console-first title that became straight up untenable without a lot of bullshit finagling on controller, and a metric ton of people played the game on controller. And since everyone was crying about job homogenization it's the perfect excuse for them to mix it up without ACTUALLY having to significantly change the actions that exist.If we take their word at face value (for once) with the guy being the one to do basically most if not all of the work? They worked smarter, not harder.
>>737615780I like the story to focus on your journey but too much saviorwank is boring.
>>737615870they anticipate dropping PS4 around 8.3 purely for physical space on the console to store the game but they are also putting it on switch 2, which is a bit more powerful than ps4 so they might still be able to push the graphics a little harder
>>737615915Free you can literally play it right now forever.
>>737615751VPR is by far and wide the most played melee Job. This is not because it is so much fun but because the encounter design has become too frantic that people really don't want to bother with having to juggle 30 buttons in addition to the mechanics staccato.
>>737615742heh
>>737615895Is the meme about fat Americans actually true? On every picture I have seen there are some heavily overweight people to be seen.
>>737615940hooooolyyyyyyy even if i have existing characters on the account but i havent played in a while?
>>737615710Eh. Logic and sense isn't needed when you have magic aether. Heavensward gave us an entire zone of floating islands of lush grass with only one very shallow pond of water across all the islands.You just need enough fire aether in a place, and you'll get your active volcano.
>>737614256>EvercoldJust as the public reception will be lmao!
>>737615895
>>737615984yeah sis just go for it
>>737616029yaaaay
>no dude trust me I need my 60s oGCD that does 800 potencyLolLmao
>>737615984once you have paid at all you can't do free trial on that account, as a returning player you could need to make a new account for it.Or maybe it's just new character, that's how it is on WoW, you can go back to old character but only if they are within the levels the free trial allows
>>737615895Why is everyone morbidly obese?
>>737616060This is the North American fanfest after all.
I must say the naming of these expansions has been mega retarded ever since StormbloodThey take one word that's relevant to the expansion and tack on a second completely random word onto it
Doomtrannies have no fuel. All they can do is throw around meaningless and directionless jabs and to attempt to misinform. LOL
>>737615320DRG looks decently challenging to play. PLD and WHM look completely braindead though.But I'd take this over all the jobs playing the same any day of the week.
>>737615983They're only 10th highest for obesity but I think when you get into the true landwhales america shoots to the top, not sure on the numbers though
>>737615773This. I wish they just gave us generic NPCs for duties. Gives them more flexibility with how to use characters, instead of having to contrive 4/8 being there for every story instance. Or having to whore out the Azem crystal yet again. That thing was so fucking cool in Shadowbringers, and its completely lost its charm.Just go back to saying "oh you and your adventurer buddies beat the shit out of the baddies. Nice"
>>737616060All the effort in their cosplays but no effort to loose weight and become hot, kek. Can't really blame them though, their wheat is literally poisned and everything contains some sort of seed oil.
>>737614256I all hinges upon the PvP guy making Evolved jobs fun. We are already off to a bad start with E-WHM getting the "Baby's first healer" label.
>>737616103Doomchads won with Dawntrail.
>>737615951Imo even viper is bloated despite being able to just spam every button in any order
>>737616141Yeah, did they take out Misery and just give it back with a different name?
>>737616103doomGODS saved this game fucking retard, sit down
Didnt he say they would show reborn and evolved to people after the presentation?
>for the modern gamerKEKhttps://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/evercold/
I'm just happy evolved will end the dogshit policy of removing buttons from below old level cap so they can add them for the new level range. Having everything on the bar by 50 fixes so many problems with playing older content. Opening up the design space by saying not all tanks have to be identical is also a great change. DRG jumps could be fun. Raider balance trannies are pissed, but no game should be made for 1% of players. ShB free trial was what I hoped for. Might come back once all this stuff is released.
>>737614256>no dailies>only weeklies>you can do it all for the week in one dayso even much more short low effort content
>>737615895>Pancreas: please no more sugar we're going to die>Brain: lol ice gream machine go burr yummy
>>737615909Plays just fine with controller. I'm a controller player and I've cleared several savage tiers, 3 ultimates, with good parses to go along with them
>>737616216Reborn is just what we've always had, no need to show that. They DID show Evolved in the dev panel a couple hours later for 4 jobs.
>>737615679That and how they think they're more intelligent than Westerners, that they built the World while their own countries are still shitholes decades, sometimes hundreds of years after they've gained independence. The victim mentality they have coupled with the smell, the arrogance, the lack of learning the culture that spawned the language, all of it combined makes browns downright hated.Compared to Japs who do none of the above, I like the Japanese a lot, for many different reasons but it's a night and day difference.
Whats the two new jobs gonna be
>Doomtroons are already seethingWe're so back.
>>737616221WTF?!
>>737616221I think the ability to set a pose on your character screen is really cool
>>737616221Gacha character screens are less annoying to look at
>>737616221I'm not a fan of this whole design aesthetic and system, but it at least sounds better on paper than fucking TOMESTONES.
>>737616235Bro your Tribes?
>>737616221hahahahah SEASON PASS INCOMING HAHAHAH
>>737616141>We are already off to a bad start with E-WHM getting the "Baby's first healer" label.I'm holding my judgment until they show some boss fights. My guess is that they actually redesigned encounters to become more engaging for healers.
>>737616298>737616298It's for everything. No daily dungeon for tomestones.
>>737616265something with a shield to block lie paladin does and something with a slingshot to fire dicks up its own ass
If they hid a special class behind a gacha system would you swipe for it
The trailer kinda sucks ngl. Hopefully the final version will have the Reaper WoL do some cool shit like slice one of those giants in two or something. ShB-style.
>>737616329>something with a slingshot to fire dicks up its own ass
>>737616308>they actually redesigned encounters to become more engaging for healers.Oh, did they say they were rebalancing a decades worth of content for their least favorite role? Amazing.
>>737616221So how does it work? Once you get to a certain threshold you get tombstones, or do you get a token that let's you buy tombstone equipment?
>>737616265Whatever what'shisname solo trial dude that I wanna refight because I got lazy and did easy mode but I would have to sit through mountains of quests and cutscenes to replay the fight that Yoshi had on his shirt isand a phys ranged DPS, I'm fairly confident it won't be slinger, alongside rumors of switch 2 that ended up true I also saw rumors of a crossbow being seen but surely if there were any hint of such hidden at fanfest it would have been in the keynote, some sort of riff on pathfinders alchemist class maybe, like throwing potions
Anyone else feel nervous when the reaper appeared?I thought it was gonna be Zero.
>>737616301And?
>>737615909Probably the best controller system in the MMO space. Its feels great and is pretty intuitive.I swapped to controller years ago and never looked back.
>>737615818Getting rid of 2 minute meta is goodTurning every job into press your filler combo 1 while you wait for your bar to fill up so you can press the button that lets you press combo 2 isn't, and that's all that these job "reworks" amount to, they're all on the level of EW SMN>>737615870>>737615951I'm not opposed to button consolidation, I'm opposed to this extreme stripping down of job abilities while also removing even more penalties for fucking upBecause absolutely everything is now tied to charges tied to a timer, uptime has no effect outside of letting you fit in a few more filler GCDs, and abilities basically can just no longer drift or cause you to miss a usage over the course of a fight no matter what you do unless you somehow don't press the button for a full minute straightAt this point why even still have job mechanics at all?
>>737616221Kek... you will pay for the subscription, you will pay for the retainers AND you will pay for the season pass.
>>737616346He enters enshroud, then enters super enshroud towards the end (like shadowringers with dark knight) i mean...this is just shadowbringers again isint it?...just icy...brrr!
>>737616346God it would be so fucking cool if the big giants were solo fights and then you only needed a party for the big boss onesit would be extra cool if the final or maybe penultimate fight of 8.0 is a 24 man
>>737616384>tombstonesThose are gone entirely anon
Wait a minute now, so now gear is universal and is shared across all jobs? This is fucking kino if so.
>>737616265With ol Rithalyn or whatever the fuck being the hint I guess we're some nordic double shield tank, probably two big ass tower shields that can also hit like a truck with weaponized internals or something. We see Monster Hunter influence in Bard's new shot dodge setup, so I can totally see them drawing a bit more there. As for Phys Ranged, well, think of something nordic or old-slavic themed and pray it isn't a comedy class; a crossbow? An archer with a very different focus than bard? Someone popping the muskets?Also gotta realize these are explicitly original jobs rather than Final Fantasy themed ones, so they aren't drawing from anything but the dev's own ideas and inspirations this time like with Viper and Reaper.
>>737616391I thought it was gonna be Zero but I wasn't nervous, I was disappointed it wasn't
>>737616423>stripping down of job abilitiesWdym? Its now reactive, target an enemy you get x, target an ally you get y otherwise its z
>>737616485I think it's more like you have one ilvl for your whole character and that's all you need
>>737616221wait it's coming out in January? damn i thought it would be in like a year.
Do they usually show anything noteworthy after the first day of the fan fest?
Who cares when the Shitch 2 is going to fuck up the game from now on? It's already making the game more casual thanks to the retarded consolebaby gameplay changes. Not to mention the graphics will have to look like shit thanks to its shitty hardware.
>>737616431free btw the doomnigger
>>737615751I think it's a good idea to take multiple actions and turning them into a single contextual button but at the same time I can't help but agree, so far the only thing that is supposedly showing how the game isn't getting "easier" is that DRG have had more directionals thrown into evolved mode while PLD more or less stays the same.IMO the game desperately needs to move away from from the current timer based combat design and completely change how gearing works in order for a more "evolved" play style to actually work but the problem is that the devs seems to be torn between having the new mode literally be baby mode for retards and actually improving on the base gameplay with it which will never work work in practice unless they plan on shitting up certain jobs by using them as trainingwheels for newbies instead of making them interesting to play. That might work as that means that every single retard that can't wrap their head around the combat will still be able to participate in it as long as they don't go out of their way to play the "harder" jobs while people with more than 50IQ gets to enjoy a more complex combat system as if the devs are ever going to bother with making the base gameplay more intresting after spending 8 years dumbing it down lmao
>>737616517Same. But then I remembered she's a paladin now.
>>737616535The switch 2 is such a piece of junk. You're better off with a steam deck and emulating all the good nintendo games since you can't even play them on the switch 2.
They game ended here, anything else is cope.Move on.
>>737616485no, how it works is whatever job you have the highest ilevel on you can sync other jobs up to that level, this doesn't include Materia but they haven't precisely explained how Materia will work, will it just read the materia on your actual gear or will you need to be in your actual gear for materia to activate, it's unclear
>>737616538You believe Yewish-P?
BREAK FREEEEEEE
>>737616603more then you :)
Am I the only one who thinks jobs should straight up not have "rotations"Like I don't know if this is something WoW invented but I swear normal RPGs don't have you pressing the same sequence of skills over and over again throughout the whole fight
>>737616535>It's already making the game more casual thanks to the retarded consolebaby gameplay changes.Anon this was already a console game. And not a "PC game ported to consoles" sort of game but a console game shared with PCs like XI from the start of 2.0. This was always Anime WoW for Consoles pretty much.
>>737614913I'm pretty sure most raiders use the auto rotation single button auto cast shit and pretend they aren't doing that.
>>737616632Yes, we should just be spamming a single weapon skill for most jobs.Maybe have one or two jobs spam jumping heavies.
>>737616519Not him but I think that part (and the distance based contextual abilities as well) is really cool, it's the 1 button combos I don't like, PAL in particular is currently cool in how you finish your 3 button combo and this rewards you with a 1 button combo, that's gonna be gone now when you combos are fully 1 button
I'm scared they're gonna gut Ninjutsus
>>737616597So now you have to farm for pieces with best stat spread for you and then sync it to your highest ilv or what? That would be cool actually.
Did DRG get his jump back instead of that stupid ass dash?
>>737616632Thank Tigole for this. Thanks to assholes like him some meta nerds finding always a perfect rotation for max dmg.
Surely it's written by different people. They wouldn't just give the yawntrail writers another chance, right?
I don't know, the gacha ui, and making jobs feel unique, engaging and balanced sounds like tall order.This has the potential to become a mess, or it will work out well enough, but I don't expect miracles.
>>737616641da goat
>>737616576But why did she have to lose her hat in the process
>>737616107>DRG looks decently challenging to play.How? The overall number of positionals is roughly the same but jumps give you free true north, there are fewer oGCDs, and wyrmwind thrust is now a bonus for your charge based positionals rather than for your regular combo so your uptime no longer affects the number of wyrmwind thrusts you get over a fight. It's significantly easier than old DRG in every conceivable way.
>>737616697Yes it looks like they got rid of the stupid dash.DRG kinda plays like ShB MNK now, you have to hit positionals and Jump allows you to ignore the next positional requirement (True North basically)
>>737616706No way Hiroi is the main writer. Kate is probably out too.
Wait, I dont remember Zero changing jobs.Did I start skipping cutscenes that early?
>>737616535switch 2 is more powerful than ps4, when they drop ps4 in 8.3 they can up the graphics a bit, sure they could up them even more if it wasn't on switch but being on switch is good for the health of the game, i'm on tiny ass Materia i'm not going to turn down more players
>>737616632I worry with the new system I won't be able to panic and spam 1-2-1-2 on GNB to keep from dying. The game now decides what it wants me to do based on its understanding of context. Convenient until it's not.
>>737616632It's literally MMO tradition where they optimize the idea of how much damage your class is supposed to be able to do so all the game design eventually ended up optimizing back in how encounters, abilities and everything base themselves around rotations. Because this doesn't have the netcode to be a full action game, they can't just free form combat it, it's too fundamentally MMO to remove rotations entirely. But you're hardly the first person to really kinda not jive with the idea, especially since beforehand it was super absurdly strict about following them to the letter or else your entire raid could wipe.Honestly? I'm glad this is trying to do SOMETHING to change it up and strike a balance, because doing the same rotations for years on end is just not fun anymore.
>>737616603They very specifically went out of their way to clarify it was not a paid season pass
>>737614730How do you not understand that it isn’t a joke when anons say Japan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other thing
>>737616747I just saw the gameplay from the panel. It looks interesting. I may actually resub.
>>737614730There’s a humility to it, it’s earnest and endearing. When a mexican fails at it it is because he is either lazy dumb or both.
>>737616769Zero became a Paladin during endwalker patch MSQ. It was an obvious reference to FF4.
>>737616301i told you 2000 crysta to skip 10 bp levels
>>737616360>Oh, did they say they were rebalancing a decades worth of content for their least favorite role? I mean I don't give a fuck about old content. They said they're getting rid of the 2-minute meta, which limited boss fight design, so I'm not going to shit on the changes until we have more information.
>>737616769It happened towards the end of her quest chain, where she switches to what she was before becoming a reaper, paladin.
>>737616603Anon this isn't a pass in that sense. It's the fuckin Tomestone system replacement. This is your grind to get the gear, with extra rewards thrown in along the way.
>Frozen planet>Lush floating islandsCHRONO TRIGGER FOR REAL THIS TIME
I really like the concept art for the new zones.
>>737616060time spent exercising and taking care of yourself to improve your attractiveness is time you could be spending pretending to be attractive in a cantonese cat woman mmo
>>737616769It's the cutscene when you beat Zeromus (Normal).
>>737616596>"if you wish to continue to the next expansion, I will not stop you. You value Yoshi P, you do not burn him for reasons you deem worthy. ">"But their is more you than that, you know this to be true. To be part of the herd, to exile the feminine FOMO that riles within your being, to consume the slop midnlessley and simply hope it is better than the last.">" Such pleasures...you seek for their own sake, do you not...adventuer?""
>>737616478>wol ever getting canon solo fights again after getting azem's rocklmao it's already bad enough that they forced wol to beat a WEAKENED valigarmanda and a single fucking lizardman with wuk lmao and frens, they're never gonna give wol kino solo fights again other than above average mortals like gulool jaja or some bandit groups
>>737614931ALISAIE HASNT LEARNED SHIT. SHES TRASH.
>>737616632>something WoW inventedI don't think wow ever invented anything.
While it's all good news it won't be out until next year, that means another year of Wuk until salvation...
Does this mean I don't have to rely on 7 other retards to get my savage gear in week 1
>>737616596>>737616879TRANNY COPE. GARLENIGGER LARPS LOST. ILSBARD TRANNIES STILL COVERED IN FOG.
>>737614987Why the fuck would you want a new race after what we’ve been through the past few years
>>737615895the wealth of nations
>>737616727Good point. Still looks much more engaging than the PLD they showed.
>>737614931>there's nothing interesting they added to their characters in DawntrailAll because Hiroi took the seat and put the spotlight on top of his cast to the expense of everyone else. You could literally write the WoL and Scions out in favor of new characters too and fundamentally nothing would change until the reinforcements scene. At least with his Zero shit she was a tagalong to other characters doing things on their own efforts and helped them at her own discretion and risk.
>>737616423>Turning every job into press your filler combo 1 while you wait for your bar to fill up so you can press the button that lets you press combo 2 isn'tTo be fair, WHM isn't really a "filler" thing and is more of a "Oh fuck I healed one too many times and now I lost DPS" thing as you can deplete the bar whenever you want or save it up and use it (if any DPS buffs still exists) to deal maximum damage.As long as there isn't a long CD on the new DPS button you can essentially heal/damage/heal/damage/heal/damage/ over and over again as long as you have a target to use it on since there supposedly is no DPS difference between spamming the button or saving up all 3 charges as long as you remember to use them before you get a fourth charge and lose out on DPS. The one deciding factor on this might be if Crit is still as strong or stronger in 8.0 since that might mean that WHM will want to max it out for potentially increased damage with a huge tripple charge nuke instead of just spamming the button.
>>737616687Why? Theres no need to have 3 buttons for ST and AOE at all
>>737616519Did you even pay attention to the dev panel at all? Even outside of the consolidation most jobs lost 50% of their offensive abilitiesPLD is press regular combo into expiacion while waiting for your bar to fill so you can press your confiteor combo and occasionally doing parries in betweenDRG is press regular filler combo while waiting for your bar to fill to give you stacks to do your positionals (pressing geirskogul/nastrond immediately after) and doing 3 jumps which gives you an inner release comboBRD is just EW SMN with a bow, wait for bar to give you stacks, spend stacks on ballad (1122), paeon (121212) or and minuet (1121), then do radiant finale into radiant encore, at least its filler GCD still gives it a resource (bardic inspirations spent for pitch perfect)Making kits this barebones that are also still tied to resource timers with no influence on resource generation via your own gameplay, or any variance to react to through procs or similar, is genuinely fucking pathetic
>>737615176Yeah. Evolved looks infinitely more fun to play.
PaladinKings are we actually the Main Characters?
>>737616980I want a new race who was promised hats 3000 years ago!
>>737617009Sounds more fun to me
>>737615137Reborn won’t be given much treatment The issue is will that mode have any sort of utility for damage over evolved in a meaningful way.Id rather they commit to one being the optimal balanced version
>>737615895good lord
GARLESISSIES REALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET AN EXPANSION. THEY REALLY THOUGHT ZENOS WAS COMING BACK. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
They won't top Emet Selch.They won't top Elidibus.They won't top Kinos.
>>737614730Japanese create beauty. Even the ugliest nip can still put effort and give you a manga full of adventures and beautiful characters.
>>737617009thats not how it works you dont use your single target to push some bar its literally like xivcombo
>>737617074Emet was a dumb little bitch who couldn't even handle the passage of time
>>737616221Legitimately a better system than tombstones and you have to be retarded to think otherwise.
>>737616915this but alphinaud
What happened to the mobile version? Is it forever trapped in China?
>>737617074>kinos>tranniespick one.
>buttons reduced>more active gameplay>better graphics??>transmog system??MY CATGIRL WITHTHE RASPY VOICE 11IM GONNA BE SO BACKMAKE HOUSING BETTERLET ME BUY A HOUSE AND KEEP ITMAKE IT INSTANCED AND NOT COST MILLIONS OF GIL I DO NOT HAVE
>>737616615>I WILL FREE US FROM THE WHEEL>DOES ITACTUAL MAD LADAPOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW
>>737616632>Like I don't know if this is something WoW invented but I swear normal RPGs don't have you pressing the same sequence of skills over and over again throughout the whole fightMost "normal" RPGs have you pressing 1 ability throughout the whole fight because "normal" RPGs are fundamentally about creating builds and making your character as broken at doing one specific thing as possible
>>737617132That bitch launched and fell on its face. It's not "dead", but it's doing so poorly no one even talks about it anymore. I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if 9.0 just caves and adds phones/mobile devices to being able to play the normal game.
>>737617143Kinos for Zenos
>>737617074An actual good rival character would be ideal.
>>737617112he was almost as cringey and pathetic as resurrected mancrush zenos
>>737616221
>>737617226tranny cope.
>>737615920The controls were never untenable for combatt. PlayStation ultimate raiderThe bigger hurdles were latency (not exclusive to control scheme) and communication (eased with a keyboard to type which I do, or VC)Switching hotbars consistently it less demanding than any fighting game on controller
>>737616632There's always an optimal order to use your abilities in, rotations are just the result of people figuring out that orderThe reason why "normal" RPGs don't have rotations is because optimization in RPGs results in stacking 200 buffs and one shotting every enemy in the game by pressing 1 ability
>>737614256I am cautiously optimistic, but also ready for a disappointment.
>>737617202>I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if 9.0 just caves and adds phones/mobile devices to being able to play the normal game.Since the game is being ported to Switch 2 they will already have to had recompiled the game to use OpenGL or Vulkan and ARM64 in order for it to function so your not that far off. All they would need to do is to get the game to play nicely with Android/iOS and touch screen since the "hard" part of porting the game is already done.
The biggest worry I currently have is devs having history of half assing new systems and half assing new combat system would be death of the game.
It can't be worse than DT, right? R-right?
>>737615808Come one, anon. Thats par for the course at this point.
>>737614776>>effort being put into gameplayI didn't know truly dumbing the game down was effort. It's baffling how quickly this game flips it's opinions on garbage decisions because Yoshi sells it to you.
>>737617291How feasible is controller play really? I played on controller once at lvl 35 dragoon when my mouse was on the frits for one day and I felt like picrel just trying to do msq
>doomsissie trannies discords taking L's for 30 hoursi dont care>garleNIGGER larpers and islabard FAGGOTS really thought they were getting an expansion. Endwalker was a gift.
>>737617094What the fuck are you talking aboutOne button combo chains are completely unrelated to anything I mentioned in that post
>we're changing the combat system to make it easier for new playersYoshi-P, you're not getting any new players.
Will she be the villain or not?
>>737617326>fr*nchoidDamn Doomers can't stop catching L's
>>737617407her whole fucking backstory will be shes assmad her garden froze. thats it. hopefully calyx dead by 7.5 way overstayed his welcome because of a jap va thats all.
>>737617407I hope so we need cute villains
>>737614256literally no, since i noped out of DT at like Lv93. i'm looking forward to seeing how EQ Legends is and i might even give SWTOR another go when they update the engine, haven't tried GW enhanced yet though seems its not that different, there's a couple of smaller EQ-likes cooking, and RS3 might even be worth it in 12 months when they are done stripping it back to be more like OSRS, theeeeeen enough years have gone by that MAYBE they finally got off their asses and made FFXI not held together by duct tape and prayers. basically, FF14 is so far down the MMORPG priority list that i possibly don't see myself ever playing it again.
>>737617326Didn't some guy manage to mod SMN into being entirely playable with just 1 button?
>>737615909I genuinely have no desire to play on Pc purely because the controller play is so functional. Grab a keyboard to type though, but it is in no way a KBM game.
>>737617379It feels pretty natural to move in and platform if you're not doing the "locked behind the player" legacy cam, for one thing. Like, there's merits to the precision of KB with legacy, but the game feels a lot less stiff. And as a controller player myself who uses XIVCombos to keep my hotbars condensed it could actually be very fluid to play. I could never really adjust to keyboard and mouse for MMOs by comparison, never feels good to play running my fingers for all these individual hotkeys and the number buttons, and I say this as a PC shooter guy.
>BRD now gets a dodge similar to DNCFucking lmao, I hope that they give DNC some more supportive stuff to compensate
>>737614776>effort being put into gameplayBy "effort" they mean gradually stripping things down and forcing roles more strictly apparently.>at least one waifuDid you learn nothing from DT? She's either dying or already dead. No waifus allowed in our MSQ.>battle passNot the worst thing since it isn't paid but we'll see how it is in practice>AsciansNever going away>new shardThis is good>limited Scion members (so far)You'll have the twins eating all the screentime again, G'raha thirsting for your cock, Urianger occasionally waxing poetic and Krile replacing Y'shtola who will get sidelined for 80% of the plot as usual and you'll like it. Maybe throw in some new cat/bunny boy for the women.
>>737617413>telling doomers they lost during DT Fanfest>they end up winning>everyone criticizing the game during DT already telling everyone this game was just going to get more dumber down and casual instead of engaging >they just got proven right againI really don't know how they're taking Ls when the last expansion has been proving them right
>>737614730Broken spanish DBZ memes are the funniest though
>>737617014Always and forever >Zero literally became a paladin to show her taking control of her fate
>2 minute synergy buff raiders
>>737616632I don't know how else they can pull off a combat system when you're doing the wagie shuffle in the middle of 10 gorrilion aoes
>>737616641What an awfully small penis, is that how you want to portray your hero?
>>737617226I love how Zenos basically won and got everything he ever wanted.
>>737614776>>battle pass to satisfy my grindtism (still probably not enough)Unless they copy the Warframe one it's going to suck ass>combat Nigga they're turning that shit into one button combos and syncing iLvls to further reduce the need for balancing. They're not making anything that's going to be engaging and reducing the grind and hoping the battle pass system will make up for the lost gear grind which if Criterion is anything to go by, it won't.
>>737617379I've always played controller and only duty action popup buttons are annoying.
>>737617469>modWorse, vanilla macros only
>>737617478you can use a controller on pc, bro
>>737616706the dawntrail writer was never the issue, almost everything wrong with dawntrails writing can be clearly traced back to progressive ideology, something Yoshi P has in the past expressed while Hiroi has notThe one anti Hiroi concession I will make is that lol dragon allies was pretty lame
>>737616221My concern it gear capping speed at the beginning of each week bow vs this.Now I would get as many tomes as need on Tuesday before prog/reclears to get a piece and then get the rest over the course of the week.Will this take longer and prevent me from getting a piece in the same tike span but shorten the overall cap time? I really only care about the speed it takes to get a piece each Tuesday prior to playing.
>>737616632Wow doesn't really have rotations, for most classes you just press 2 buttons until a proc tells you to press a different one
>>737617014So much so that 8.0 tank aside you'll practically be forced to play it going forward if you want to tank.
>>737617407feet game
>>737614256Thanks for paying for my free expansion guys
>>737616498It's not that.Rithalyn being a double shield tank is a hint too obviousRemember that Rithalyn shields are also GUNS, so the hint is for the dps
>2min meta is officially deadThank fuck for that, this alone actually gives me hope for the game improving in 8.0
They will bring her back and fix the mistake of killing her off, trust the plan.
>>737617669I dont fully understand how they're changing it. So you do the weekly and you get current IL gear. What will be the point when all classes will chare the same gear?
>>737616853I don't think they will get rid of tomestones entirely since there's relic stuff tied to them, but I could see them cutting it down to just poetics
>>737617709Don't do that, don't give me hope...
>>737617669>>737617745Proabbly timegated i.e. rewards on a week by week basis akin to lockout in wow
>>737617397yes they are getting new players from the switch 2 version, that's why the only change to cater new players is that but they don't care about getting new players since they didn't make a skip.
I've been wanting to get into ff14 for a while now, does this next expansion look good or bad, or do we not know enough yet?
>>737617728The hope was removing 2min meta and replacing it with something betterInstead they removed it and replaced it with nothing
I don’t want to see green or pink skin characters. Worst thing.
>>737617616tranny cope. all these garleniggers can do is seethe.
>>737617709>>737617750>CorsairI WANT TO BELIEVE!
>>737617804I don't care about garlemald you retard, I like Zenos.
>>737617787We don't know yet. It's way too early. With that said, it's worth playing through for shadowbringers alone
>>737617663serious trannny cope post.
>>737616859If people indeed have to live on floating islands I hope there's a skyland referencewhich I now learn is french and canadian so i'm a lot less keen suddenly
>>737614730>Why is it endearing when nips speak broken EnglishIt's not. Someone in a CEO position of a globally operating company should absolutely be able to speak proper english nowadays, especially when you're still relatively "young" and not some ancient 80+ year old relic who grew up in different times.
>>737617789Man we don't know shit for what's replacing or filling the gap.
>>737617736Not so long as the women on the writing team. At best AuRith will get some nice screentime before she dies, provided she isn't a ghost or something. You're might get Emet and his twink sex slave back though.
>>737617750the problem is, they said the jobs are totally original, so I don't know if they will call it "Gunner" since that is a job that already exists in the franchise
>>737614730Polite, clean and civilized person vs foul smelling gutter rat. People will forgive more if you present yourself decently enough. You can even observe this within an ethnic groups like with the stereotypical british gentleman vs the chav or how people in america are more favorable towards a black man in a suit while absolutely loathing your regular ghetto nigger.
>>737617864Gunman Chronicles
>>737617845They've shown us gameplay of 4 different level 110 jobs
>>737616906Can I compromise with an 8 man against a boss giant which during the fight splits off into 8 solo fights against add giants
>it's not real it's AI!CopeKEKs status?
>>737617789>replaced it with nothingThat is probably the best part since, just as many anons have said here/on the forums and that Yoshita FINALLY admitted live on stage, time based gameplay limits design scope so much that they were literally forced to recycle the same type of boss and job design over and over again.With that said, if the BRD showcase is anything to go by we might actually get job specific or at least role specific buffs back into the game again so it wasn't really replaced with nothing, it was replaced with something we used to have.
>>737617379I guess I have the context of playing on controller perpetually so it might be different if you aren’t used to a controller in general
She's IN
Buy 2 Play when?
>>737616047You can't play at all on that account
>>737616596Fact!
>>737617326I think SMN will go down the same route as BRD with having the flexibility of using any summon whenever you want for the benefits they provide.
>>737617736Impossible, women don’t want other female characters distracting men from them.
The WHM gameplay looked like shit. Now you can just insta cast Glare for the heckin' big DPS!!
>>737617754Sure but where is the gear itself in this battlepass? At the end? How long will it take to get the piece. Can I choose which piece? I think we all agree itll take less time to “cap” relative to whatever that is but will it take the same amount of time to get the stuff we all actually want
>>737616265it already leaked
>>737617991Honestly the fact that Summoner is a rotation of throwing out essences of Primals on a goddamn chain in such a way is so disappointingly wasteful. From the Pet class to the goddamn elemental punchout.
>playerbase went from claiming this game will never be a one button press game to praising it's inclusionI hate how quickly this community flips opinions just because they make it an official addition. >New jobs only have evolved I'm reading that as Reborn jobs only get legacy treatment while new jobs will forever be built around one button. How is this supposed to be more engaging in a game that's actively removed engaging aspects?
>>737618040>it already leakedpost it
I'm thinking a helmet with wings
>"Switch the "Cold" to "Frost, sounds cleaner"
>>737617828tranny poster
>>737618045>around one buttonthat is not what it means retard
>>737618052Corsair and Onion Knight
>>737617789Good. They should focus on changing the fights instead.
>>737618052>>737610403
>>737618045It's not even streamlining, it's just an easy mode. The combo is their for combo potency, you were punished if you didn't follow the order, now it's just one button.
>>737618045Probably because we just had a whole expansion of the devs trying to truck on despite people not being happy about how things were turning out and now two years later everyone is just sick and dogass tired of what they've had to deal with. Like a frog in a slow-boiling pot of water, anything fresh that escapes the current issues sounds reasonable and interesting by comparison.
>>737618064Fuck i love when armor has those little hanging banners.
>>737618065everfrost does sound better>>737618084corsair is...a..pirate?the fuck is onion knight>>737618115>>737610403oh shit!
>Now I have to wait until media tour to know more about the changes made to the rest of the jobsFUCK
>>737617991So, SMN is turning into what is should have been from the fucking start?
>>737618127they didnt want to call it permafrost
>Everflop
>>737618064As a tank main who likes cool helmets circlets have been one of the worst things to happen to this game. Thanks subhumans.
>>737618170>Neversold
>>737610403Freee MSQ skip???
>>737616384Gear track gives you tokens to redeem for weekly tomestone-level gear, trophy crystal icon might be augment token, if they're doing away with the usual method of getting the augmented version?the All track rewards cosmetics, mounts, minions, skill skins, etc.
>>737617014It would certainly seem that way being the ones chosen to be the only main tank outside the new one they need to shill for the expansion
evangellioncold
>>737618185>>737618170>Playersfold
>>737617616Common them with XIV villains
>>737618137Means more time to shitpost about how WAR and DRK are practically removed from the game in favor of the main character PLD.
>>737617158I kneel
>>737618064Were any other class sets shown?
>>737614730>shitskinsyou need an elaboration?
>>737618227>WE FOOOOOLD>WE FOOOOOLD
Hey guys, Mrhappy here and today I'm gonna fuck all these bitches. Yes, even Jesse. Especially Jesse.
>bot postsholy shit the discord is seething.
>>737618249Dude, that's not cool dude. I want to go MANMODE not PUSSYMODE.
>>737618082>not what it means >leak that was proven correct literally confirms one button designBreh is this going to be another DT situation where "winning" means sticking your head in the sand and letting shit get bad again?
>>737616097The JP names are not super great, but I do like it because they sound less nonsense. And they have an actual theming in the name by using colors with every expansion after ARR.>Eorzea Reborn>The Blue Skies of Ishgard>The Crimson Liberators>The Black Villains>The Finale DawnsEndwalker breaks the theme as its the big conclusion. And then it restarts with>The Golden Legacy>The Silver Wanderer
>>737617291I wonder if they will do anything to mitigate latency, especially if they're going to be making a switch 2 version which will mean hordes of people playing wirelessly
>>737614256Waiting for Yoshi-Piss to fix my aging body and receding hairline.
Ah fuck the one time I had to be away, how was the WoW general threads?
>WHITE MAGE IS SHIT >EVOLVED MODE>WHITE MAGE IS STILL SHIT I hope you fucking faggots have a wake up call that ever cold is dogshit
>NGE collabHoly SLOPcringe
>>737610403>slingshot ranged dpsuselessutterlyuselessi dont want to run around with a gigantic slingshot wtf
Obviously SMN Rework ties in with character action skins. Now you only summon one actual summon but you can choose which it looks like including sephirot etc. it’s more simple but visually different. Like how the second casting of whm glare is different despite the same.
>>737618306How's he coping with WAR implied to be a glorified healer now?
>>737618339Feel free to kill yourself anytime.
>>737617397There's going to be a massive boost of new players for switch 2
>HURR DURR 2 MINUTE BURST WINDOWS IS LE BAD HAVING BUFFS IN YOUR PARTY IS LE BAD BECAUSE I NEED TO LINE MY OGCD'S UWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYou retards complain about everything now enjoy your slop expansion
>>737618347Egi glamour cope lives on
>>737618347>forever cucked out of summoning Alexander because I didn't play during the battle pass season he was featured in
>>737618082That is exactly what it means>>737618117And will influence future job design.
I haven't played since endwalker. Since the story ended there any thoughts of what this will be about and how it connects to the previous expansions?
WAR WILL STILL BE THE ULTIMATE SOLO CLASS RUAAAARRR
>>737618386>parser tranny
>>737618384I'll be sure to say no switch players on the party finder play on PC you fucking onions niggers
>>737617443>her whole fucking backstory will be shes assmad her garden frozeThat would be a great backstory, I don't want Calyx dead though, but the new setting doesn't seem advanced enough to have computers he can hang out in, would he just be in the plushie all expansion, maybe the giant society will have computers he can take over in the climax
>>737618265
>>737616221Does the Modern Gamer really like Final Fantasy XIII?
>>737615780Based, I hope they won't be lazy (for once) and make the wol more active during cutscenes with more animations.
HES IN
>>737618391You can pay for it on the mogstation.
>>737618348I have no clue why they didn't turn WAR into a "tanks tank" since they have been almost immortal in practice with all of their self healing since EW, if anything, PLD fits better as a support tank since they are essentially healers wearing plate armor and a shield.
>>737618386We still have buffs, but the 2 minute window was stifling not just for players but for bosses. The devs straight up admitted bosses would just relax every two minutes for people's burst windows and then rinse and repeat the same cycle til defeat.
>>737617407Just barely villainous enough it counts as redemption through dicking
Halmarut will save XIV.
>>737618384>There's going to be a massive boost of new players for switch 2Do you even understand the demographic for the Switch? All Nintendo would need is another Tomodachi Life or Animal Crossing and that alone will pull any interest away from the Switch base. Nintendo players aren't known for multiplat games like Sony and Xbox.
>>737618265more
>>737618421>Armour set with fur collarNta but I'm happy
>>737617495I saw some speculation that with the removal of most party wide buffs DNC might be able using more buffs on your partner, so having to pay attention to that could be cool
>>737618421Is that MNK on the right?
Dating simulator when?
>>737618470counterpoint: free trial that doesn't require NSO up to shadowbringers basically gives you most of the game, so someone doesn't even have to dedicate money to this thing to seriously know if they care or not
>>737618265more more
>>737618386>Feature that literally everyone hates except for the highest parsers and autists in the communityYeah, the game is definitely going to die now that they finally remove something that players have been complaining about since ShB
>>737618496Too many belts and not naked and asymmetric enough.
>>737617509>Did you learn nothing from DT? She's either dying or already dead.They replaced dawntrails dead waifu with an even better version of the same waifu
>>737618296Actually surprised at how much weight Jesse Cox has lost, holy shit.
>game available on switch 2 Thanks for ruining the game nintendo I what's next loot boxes gacha system a battle pass system I hope all switch 2 players on this game kill themselves go play on PC fucktards
>>737618357God these people need to shut the fuck up and quit the game if they don't like it ffs. Tired of the whiners.
>>737618496DNC
>>737618509>counterpoint >still doesnt address the issue of a demographic that does not share the same mentality of Xbox and Sony players and favor nearly only Nintendo or Nintendo adjacent gamesYeah bro, Switch is a goldmine of players
>>737618518>Too many beltsAnother Nomura design.
I saw a picture in a previous thread about how the new phys ranged will have a rifle but I can't find it anymore.Anyone have seen it? Is there anything to it?
>>737617709The guns could be metaphorical, wrestler class as in big muscular arms are called gunsbut then what would the weapons be? Monk has already claimed fist weapons
>>737618539judging by the lead fuckwit behind the parsing site everyone takes as gospel for which jobs suck and which are great at the high end, they may very well quit, and fuck 'em, good riddance if so
>>737618605No way it will be rifle.
shedbringers
>>737618296I want to plap Joi so fucking bad. I want her to give me breastfeed handjob
>>737617379Controller is super comfy and viable once you get the feeling down. Make sure to enable all the crossbar functions. As a Summoner specifically, it was really nice to play, almost preferable over a keyboard and mouse.
>>737618605>RifleWe already have a job that uses it and it's called who am I kidding, MCH is more of a mechromancer now than an actual gun job
Cross DC PF between regions when? I want to play with OCE. Also how will marketboard work now with cross dc PF? They should just merge into one at this point or better yet change it to ffxi AH style.
>>737616690The guy who's doing all the jobs is the guy who brought us mudras in the first place, he might just double down in it.
>>737618657Who?
You guys are so utterly retarded it's not even funny you are excited for them dumbing down your rotation did you see how dumbed down bard was? So it's fast who gives a shit it lacks complexity in its rotation I need my 2 dots back ASAP this is dogshit anyone who likes ever flop needs to kill themselvesYOU FUCKERS WILL LITERALLY COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERCOLD THE WAY YO UDID DWANTRAILYOU DON'T DESERVE TO PLAY THIS GAMEKYS2 MINUTE META IS BASED
>>737618182hopefully now hroths and vieras are mostly unbricked on that front they might start making helmets more yeah right lmao
>>737616221Hope this nets Savage level gear.
>>737617787At the very least there are concerns they have now acknowledged around combat design
>>737618659Trying to heal with a controller was the worst experience I ever had, I'm sticking with a keyboard and mouse.
>>737618642I wanted Warrior to have a mechanic similar to Phantom Berserker where you deal more damage the more you get hit but I guess that dream is dead now.
>>737618634Probably not but my dreams is all I have left.>>737618664Don't fucking mention that abomination. You have no idea how much I hate MCH and whatever the fuck thoese weapons are supposed to be.
>>737617791Yeah, I hope at least it's locked behind a quest, like you have to get to level 20 to unlock the spell or makeup for inhuman skin tones so it's slightly less unimmersive
>>737618539>>737618629The thing I find funny about these posts is that I swear we can look at the v archives for the last 2 years when another MMO, I want to say it was WoW, added the same concept and these very XIV threads gloating about how this game would never do that because of Job identity being a priority and some modicum of skill. Here we are now getting the same treatment and now it's all about pretending that it's a good idea now cause of some <People we don't like> complaining.
>>737618391there will probably be some sort of trophy crystal equivalent and a shop where past season rewards show up that you can buy. Either that or they can make the second loop and onwards reward previous season stuff if you don't already have it, with stuff you did get replaced by more trophy crystals
>>737618701Of all the tanks I think WAR is the one that sounds like it'll have to go through the most drastic changes to be an off tank. Most of their sustain will have to go or be reworked into affecting party members since they aren't there to be hit anymore. And if that's the case then how can they function in dungeons? Guess wall-to-wall pulls wouldn't be viable anymore, though I personally hope they are doing something new with the dungeon format anyway.
>WAR was such an atrocious tank in XI it got reworked into a DPS>WAR was such an atrocious tank in XIV at launch it took years for them to make it workI don't know why WARfags are crying, you've never been destined to be MT.
>>737618023It's weird but I kind of gel with their reasoning of wanting to narrow in on using castbars to heal
>>737618605this image makes me feel strange things.
>>737618790like what?
>>737618346>leak has premium shop being accessible in game>still need to buy outside gameLmao why do I have a feeling it's because they couldn't do it without breaking the game in some way?
>>737610403If that thing about getting on mounts as you move having an animation is true I hope they also take the chance to make it so you can't mount while moving in PvP
>>737618664i stand by the fact that the only good MCH gun that isn't garlean stuff is the bozja relic, blade's ingenuity, as the replica without the glowy shit on top
>>737618717I actually have hope that the new job and MCH is going to be turned into gun mages. Some people hated it but I loved the fact that you couldn't move and shoot at the same time as MCH back in the day, it made it feel different.IMO if they just take the "you can move but slowly" shit from PvP and add it to MCH and the new job while keeping the zoomer style on BRD and DNC I'll be happy since now you get two options per style of phys ranged play, "supportive and fast" or "slow and strong"
WHY IS WARRIOR OFF TANKWHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT FUCK OFF
>>737617158>The wheel is being broken>And he shows up in the next patchCoincidence? I think not.
>>737618781Maybe because it's whole identity has been about sustain, so now it seemingly doesn't have one?
>>737614256Kate status?
>>737616024That NA fanfest cosplay was fucking embarrassing. Amerifats you should be ashamed of yourselves for this display.
Is there any reflection that hasn't been buttfucked by a calamity?
>>737618126Could it be a tease of or dev testing for a 40k crossover
>>737618829Put that away! Jesus fuck they couldn't even be bothered to make the model align with the hand...
>dumbing down the game for modern audiencesEvercold more like Everslop
>>737618870Since they all share at least one calamity with their creation, no.
>>737618853MIA, possibly watching fanfest from her couch while eating tacos.
where da evercold
im scared to think how summoner sissies will evolve
Paladinchads, we just can't stop winning,
honestly make off tanks just actual dps with some defensive cds
>>737618781With any luck they and GNB are being turned into "DPS" off tanks while DRK gets to be the edgy cuck that is forced to shield everyone with shadow bullshittery
WAIT HOLD ONThey were saying they are trying to short the times between patchesBut then, they said end for support of PS4 will end in two years with patch 8.3>January 2028, 8.0>April 2028. 8.1>August 2028, 8.3>December, 2028 8.3Are they lying again?
>>737618849I mean the PvP guy is doing the Evolved system, and Warrior is still a selfish sustainer there. Big fault is that without sustain it just eats absolute shit. I can imagine condensed timing to mits as ways to try to keep sustain up while simultaneously absorbing hits for others or something. If we go by FF job fantasy, this sort of tank is the exact sort of thing that would be an alternative to Paladin/Knight in trying to absorb damages for others somehow more directly.
get on the gear treadmill shinji
Isn't Alisaie due for a job change?
>>737618187Not sure I totally believe the leak in general but they have to do something about how much game there is between start and new content, really the logical place to do it was Dawntrail but maybe they just knew the reception would be bad enough for that to be a bad idea
>>737618865CAN YOU BLAANEEEE ME
>>737619006For sure, from scion to mother of my children.
Considering their track record, I dont feel hyped by this. More like cautiously optimistic.
>>737618973PS6 will be out by then and PS5s should be affordable. maybe.
>>737618475I really like the dancer one, so many of them feel like male designs are suffering for the women but this actually looks good, but i'm curious how it will work with women with all that jewelry in the middle, will they also have the top coming in from 2 sides with the exposed center?
>>737618817>leakfanfiction is a leak now? kys you troglodyte idiot bitch
>>737618327Oh man those must have been a mess
>>737619103do you mean the one on the right? i assumed that was astrologian.
>>737618347Nah I don't think they would do that>Like how the second casting of whm glare is different despite the same.but as long as we are talking action skins I really hope there's an option to make one of the attacks elemental
>>737618770Rework it into being the more DPS focused of the OTs, give them a Berserking meter that fills when they attack or use skills and rapidly decreases when they aren't (and also give them stacks of Frenzy like D2 Barb that increase skill/attack speed because why not). basically the more aggressive they are the more damage they shrug off
>>737619006no shes a shitty red mage.
>>737618424Would be nice, they've already been making steps towards this so i'm hopeful
>>737619006I just want them to grow up already
>>737618443It's certainly rather odd, I can only image the thinking came round to the shield itself
>>737618817they just don't want to integrate a web backend into the game.
>>737618838shed.now.
>>737615596reborn isn't getting anything new in 8.0.
>>737614256Have they finally removed scions?Skipped last one, because was very sick of them and they were focus of the trailer
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>737619267>y'shtola sends WAR anons to the cuckshed this time
>>737618957It's largely gonna take place on the floating isles above the frozen shithole below
>>737619292@grok, include cat based puns
Also, what's the new jobs?Any tanks or healers?
>>737619363find out in June
>One (1) (uno) guy fixed 90% of the major problems with the game including but not limited to: Encounter design, Job identity, homogenization, the 2-minute meta, and more.Is Prime-sama just a gigachad or is the dev team just that incompetent?
>>737619363tank and phys ranged
>>737619363We don't know other than it being a Tank and Main DPS and them being original to XIVBased on YoshiP wearing a Rhythathin shirt during fanfest and the fact the new Job is described as a 'Main Tank' like Paladin, it's that it's going to be a dual-shield tank.
>>737618742the xivlogs dude says he wanted to quit over the removal of party buffs moreso than single button combos
>>737619006She's changing to the Wife job.
>>737619398he looks like he is half the age of most of the dev team. he's more in touch with what modern gaming is like instead of relying on out of touch takes like yoshi "everyone hates final fantasy. everyone hates turn based. jrpg is a slur." p
>>737619213That would make sense, the base class quests and really not even so much the job quests are not exactly tank themed
Isn't the entire MT and OT thing entirely overblown when the MT can be the OT and get all the counters by shielding the MT? They even showed yoship doing that in the showcase. Are people just ignoring that?
did they have to drag ishikawa back to do the MSQ too?
>>737619292He is literally me fr fr
>>737618665As OCE I don't really wanna play across the seas (and if overseas wants to play with us you can data center travel to us) but I would love for the data center travel to be 2 ways, let me visit other regions to check out houses across the world, see who else has my same apartment in other servers
>>737619529Do OT Paladins really not use Sheltron when they're doing mechanics? It's basically free mitigation.
>>737619529It's all just theory right now anyway since we haven't seen anything but PLD. People are just running with the idea that MTs are the actual tanks now while OTs are a poor man's version of all other roles.
>>737619147The 9.2 and Endwalker era was the best time to doomlurk the threads, I miss it.
>>737618680the 2 classes from the showcase I play were the less touched ones lolalso it is 2 dots, they're just locked behind a song, which is a bit weird I will admit, probably one of my main more specific complaints even if I think overall the changes are good
>>737616261>>737615679>>737614863
>>737619597It's a retarded idea because you still have tankswaps, so OTs will still have to, you know, actually tank. It's that Paladins and the new Job will be more OPTIMIZED for getting smashed in the face longer.
>>737617325They also probably want to train to make a main FF a gacha next time since mmo is too outdated now
>>737619393july
>>737618957Yoshi multiple times acknowledged the disconnect between what was shown and the name, it's gotta be something more kino than just floating islands for him to tease it that much
>>737619596Yes they just give the MT shelltron. Again shown in the showcase with YoshiP's character
>>737619006Yeah, to my cumsock
Does anyone ever record the Primals concert and upload it anywhere?
>>737619727anon you misread, I'm asking if people CURRENTLY don't use Sheltron when they're off-tanking.
>>737619164Huh you might be right, but then would astrologian have that feather in the hair?
>mfw 'WHICH JOB TO PLAY IN FFXIV' videos will actually matter and be informative in 8.0
>>737619269Nah, they won't rip the bandaid off that hard, you will get at least 1
Baldybros.. not like this..
>>737619612>also it is 2 dots, they're just locked behind a songThe DoTs are 3 seconds long and they trigger the use of a second ability when they fall off, they are literally just DoTs for legacy's sake
>>737619763Current OT PLD just use gauge for Intervention instead of Sheltron. Same concept still
>Dawntroons think people are coming back
>>737619290I assure you the Scions have very little relevance to dawntrail
I literally did not even buy DT yet.>shadowbringers but with snowYup, the game is in a freefall.
>>737619798Why, what happened?
>>737619820Oh they didn't show it but I'm wondering if Sheltron will be a target-dependant spell turning into Intervention when targeting allies. Or if I just missed intervention in the hotbar.
>>737619606I also just lurked in those threads. Blizzard really had a rough year with all the lawsuits, expansion being shit, and EW hype in full swing.
>>737619843I dropped the game before 7.1, if the gameplay actually meaningfully changes, I might actually come back.
What are the odds that the rotations they showed off at the dev panel were the level 50 ones and the jobs were missing most of their advanced abilitiesThis can't be all there is
>>7376198502min meta is killJob identity is back.
>>737619817Huh really, that's a bit lame
>>737619909they explicitly said you get all buttons by 50
>>737619912>Job identity is back.How?
>>737619912>Job identity is back.never a good thing when dev says that
>>737619909No anon, at the most they were the level 100 kits instead of the level 110 kits. they already said you get all your buttons by 50 and all skill gains after are just passives or finishers to other spells.
>>737619870I can't remember if intervention was in the hotbar but giving it that same contextual target thing on sheltron would make sense, or maybe they are doing away with it entirely and replacing it with a lower cooldown on cover
>>737619798Certain jobs will be pariahs because they're slightly less efficient when the entire party is top 0.1% players
>>737619903Can you stop spamming your slop
>>737619798What a time to be alive
>>737619979>>737619990Paladins are now dedicated main tanks and have a parry attack.Dragoons have an actual delayed time jump that gives them a (currently in testing) 90% damage mitigation when in use.Bard songs now have actual interesting buffs like regen, barrier and movement speed buffs.White Mages now primarily heal instead of being Glare Mages.
>>737619972>>737619998It's not going to be to that extent, your core rotation will be in at 50
>>737620027That was the last one I made but since you asked so nicely.
>>737620081that's not what the slide said
>>737619998free trial bros are eating good
>>737620160You really think you are going to have Temperance at level 50?
>>737620065Paladins got a follow up to Sheltron and in exchange lost the switching between physical and magic phases and didn't even get to keep atonementDragoons got a PvP jump in exchange for their rotation being turned into an even simpler version of ReaperBard got slightly more utility in exchange for complete removal of procsHow is this not just more homogenization
best male race?
is this achievable natty
>>737620269midlander hyur
>>737620251>How is this not just more homogenizationBecause the follow up to Sheltron is a counter
>>737619269evolved is getting broken shit like a skill to give 90% damage reduction to dragoon there is no way reborn doesn't get this shit or square enix is absolutely brain dead.In true square enix fashion I feel like they didn't explain the dichotomy between the two battle systems properly.
>>737620269Elezen.
>>737620065Do you still do a rotation of the bard songs or can I only stick to one if it’s better required for situation. I think minuet was more single target?
>>737618973>8.0 - 8.1 is three months>8.1 to 8.2 is four months>8.2 to 8.3 is two monthsThree month average.While DT has been>7.0 - 7.1 was four months>7.1 to 7.2 was four months>7.2 to 7.3 was five monthsis a 4 and 1/3 month average.It is, in fact, shorter.
>>737620450Yeah Minuet was single target and Paeon was AoE
>>737620269>normal tiermale highlandermale midlandermale elezenmale roe>autistic tiermale au'ra>furry tiermale hrothgar>incel tiermale lalafellmale vieramale miqo'te
>>737620450Yes, they also made it so that Bard songs use a gauge that charges over time instead of having an individual cooldown timer, so I think you can theoretically spam the same song multiple times.
>>737620643>>god tier>face 4 male roe>>normal tier>male highlander>male midlander>male elezen>male roe>>>autistic tier>male au'ra>>>furry tier>male hrothgar>>>incel tier>male lalafell>male viera>male miqo'teftfy
>>737619885>>737619885
>>737619023Vance Wept.
>>737619006>>737619494>All the Scions are still wearing the same clothes from 8 years ago. EW
>>737614256Yes.
>>737618680Anything that makes shadowbabies, endbryos and dawntroons mad is good, fuck off
>>737620269highlander eyebrows not included