>2 MINUTE META: DEAD FOREVER>CLASSES: FULL CLASS FANTASY RPG AND NOT MMO SLOP>ACTIVE PARRIES FOR TANKS, GET GOOD SLOBS>DESTROYING THE TRADITIONAL MMO GEAR MODEL WOW RUINED THE GENRE WITH>EVANGELION RAIDS, YOU WILL SEE EWHORES IN PLUGSUITS AND MISATOS DRESS>NORDIC AND AUTHURIAN SETTING ON A FROZEN WORLD WITH TITANIC JOTUNS STRIDING THE WORLD AS TITANS>TOMESTOME FARMING: GONE>NEW MAIN TANK, PROBABLY DOUBLE SHIELD MAGITEK KNIGHT LIKE MY NIGGER RHITATAHN>GROUP FINDER REGION WIDE NO LONGER LOCKED TO A DATA CENTER>DAILIES REPLACED WITH WEEKLYS WITH THE OPTION TO CATCH UP IF YOU COMPLETE THIS WEEK BUT DIDNT FINISH LAST WEEK>YOU GET YOUR FULL KIT AT LVL.50 NO ONE SKILL EVERY TEN LEVELS BULLSHIT>PVP PERSONAL LIMIT BREAKS NOW PART OF BASE CLASS TOOLKITARE YOU READY TO CONCEDE AND KNEEL TO THE SHOGUN OF THE YOSHIDA ZAIBATSU?
>>737616242Lmao tranny game
>>737616242Who cares lmao tranny
Blud this game is dead
>>737616242you forgot>KATE FiRED>WUK LAMAT BENCHED
World of Warcraft WON the tranniest MMO award
>>737616242I kind of wish I could be a fly on the wall at Square HQ during the lead up to this. The executives must have really been putting the screws to him about sub numbers if Yoshi is finally actually changing significant things
>>737616591"i am no longer asking for more budget nft man, i am demanding"
Are you a reborn american or evolved american?
>>737616242I dont care. Having the Scions tag along again already ruins the MSQ.
>>737617570Probably evolved since you're basically griefing otherwise
>>737616242>EVANGELION RAIDS, YOU WILL SEE EWHORES IN PLUGSUITS AND MISATOS DRESSEh?
>>737617570The evolved americans spit a corn syrup based acid from a venom sack in their jowls as a defence mechanism.
>>737616242>I THINK SF6 MODERN CONTROLS FUCKING SUCKS FOR STUPID BABIESBASED YOSHI-P
>>737617830Did they stutter?
>>737617654tired of these niggas toowas hoping we'd get a new cast after EW
Ill go through the msq on a new character. Whats the chaddest character to create? im not making a female. i love DRK but i dont wanna tank anymore so ill try DPS, what makes me feel like pic related
>>737618156Reapers in the trailer which means its going to be the OP dps
>>737618156You can play all jobs on a single character, so just go for whatever For a more direct answer, probably Reaper, but you won't unlock that for a while, so maybe Dragoon as a stop-gap
>>737616242is that list for next xpac or what is it?Just found xpac is january 2027 so way off Personally im more inclined to enjoy peak summer in next months anyway so perfectly fine it its not now, though announcing xpac that is still 9 months away seems also kinda pointless.
>>737618628Most of it, theres some stuff they are going to start implementing from next weeks patch onwards but the big revamp stuff is 8.0
>>737616242How did WoW sisters react to the updates
>>737617865It’s called Mountain Dew
>>737618795DDOSing the servers
>>737618743So whats going live now the daily/weekly rework? New class will obv be xpac and i assume the tank rework too.
>>737618795>WoW changes their whole meta towards trying to be 2-minute burst windows like XIV>XIV turns around and is immediately abandoning it after 7 years of complaintsi can only imagine how hilarious this is going to be
>>737618795Some like Preach visibly gasped and backed away from the screen like that one scene in Signs when they announced you can synch all your jobs ilvl to your max ilvl. He was visibly shaking going "chat do you not understand?? this destroys the gear paradigm thats been the norm for 25 years? this changes everything!". Its going to make WoW and its gear model seem grossly more grindy and deeply disrespectful of your time. If its pulled off successfully its going to effect the entire genre going forwards in ways the mouthbreathers dont have the systems design know how to understand.
>>737619286WoW's increasing their sub price by 37% soon, those guys will accept any dogshit at this point and no care because they sunk too much time and money in.
>"Switch the 'Cold' to 'Frost', sounds cleaner"
>>737618156whats the main character race for my DPS journey
>>737619510Whatever you want if straight, male hrothgar if gay.
>>737618156>>737618256reaper sounds edgelord but lorewise they were simple farmers who took their scythes to war.i think viper is closer
>>737618156male midlanderRPR
>>737619286About fucking time too. Most people only gear one job per tier. Two at most.
>>737616242They already stated it will be even more casual and for people who can't play every day.
>>737616242>new tank>and is the chadtank class
>>737619395>United Kingdom, Kazakhstan, Georgia, and Turkey
>>737618156>doing dawntrail all over again
>>737620746Cope and seethe
>>737617570from the look of it, it seems like driving a manual and automaticreborn is probably going to be more precise
>>737616591The way they talked, it sounded like Yoshi p kicked down his door, showed him a PowerPoint about how to save the game and then told him neither of them were leaving his office alive unless he signed off on the budget.
>>737618156Male Middie DRK
>>737620679cause you get easy free gear for main job from MSQ and then next job its straight to hobo begging for scraps. The gap makes it very unappealing. I think they might actually profit of this and get more people stay longer subbed playing alts because now its more approachable.
>>737620895Dude, I've been playing since 1.0. The game's content has gone downhill since Heavensward, and now they're dumbing down the gameplay even more. I just want the game to be good again and actually feel like an MMORPG. You have to realize that if one bad story expansion like Dawntrail is enough to make the game tremble, something is fundamentally wrong. ARR was the peak. Coil was fun and felt like a real raid, and the Mor Dhona progression stages were awesome.I want a mmorpg with a nice FF story on it's side. People like you want a shallow VN mixed with second life and small gameplay segments.
>>737621190What was the last ultimate you cleared?
>>737616242>2 MINUTE META: DEAD FOREVERNo one thought this was a good change.
>>737621373Die, Parsemonkey
>>737620746>and for people who can't play every day.No game should be for grind slaves.>muh ARRYou objectively pressed more buttons and had more complicated rotations in every expansion including dawntrailThe homogenization was panned because it came at the expense of class identity. This pulls us back towards class fantasy while also rewarding mechanical knowledge.
Ok but what's with the Switch 2 port requiring a separate subscription? That sounds weird.
I don't believe for a second they'll actually turn it all around. We'll see in a year or so I guess, but I'm sure as fuck not resubbing or getting the expansion until we know whether it's more of the same shit or not.
>>737621285Moving the goalposts won't fix the gameplay loop, anon. Clearing a 15-minute scripted dance doesn't change the fact that the overworld is dead and the 'RPG' elements have been stripped for parts (and wont come back with the new xpac). You're proving my point. If the only thing left is 'Ultimate or nothing,' the game is a failure as an MMO.
>>737616242No they just need to deliver a story that isn't sanitised shit, and preferably one that doesn't end with a villain from a doomed civilization narrating the final dungeon.
>>737616242They'll figure out a way to fuck this up
>>737621431It's the same shit even more dumbed down. Season Pass (even when it's for free), no need to play daily login, etc. It will be mmorpg for 30 year old dads without time and japanese salary virgins.
>>737619657>they were simple farmers who took their scythes to war.And made a pact with beings from the void
>>737621431This lol. The expansion will come out, the shit they promised will be half-baked at launch and require multiple patches to mostly implement, the 2 minute meta will still exist, and classes will somehow end up homogenized even further.How many times have we had this song and dance now?
>>737619657>>737621635more like farmers who got tired of getting their shit punched in so they made a pact with demonsthe only fake edge is DRK where it's just a form of love they get power from
>>737621424Nintendo wants a bigger cut from the sub price, so they had to make a separate sub just for them.
>>737620746That's a good thing
Kate and HIroi status?
no need to spam xiv posts which belong on vg
>>737620746No shit. The average final fantasy fan is like 37. I got shit to do nigga, get straight to the blast-having.
>>737621373Balanceniggers need to go back to other game.
>>737616242SOGEKING
>>737621937locked up in the sex room. they cant leave because they wont touch eachother
>>737619286Honest question, why even bother with gear at all at that point? Might as well make iLevel correspond on how much of the season pass you have cleared. "+5 iLevel for each savage floor you cleared" or something like that and just adjust the characters stats when they switch jobs. The gear screen can then exclusively be used for glamours.
>>737621373The only thing that would be more delicious than the 2 minute meta imploding would be if fflogs exclusively tracked "potency dealt" and ignored gear/critical hits.
That's nice and all, but are job quests back?
>>737622141>fill battle pass bar with <any activity> each week>+2 item level each week>if you grind the season out you'll be BiS, if you do savage you earn more points and can fast track it within 2 months of reclears
>>737622339Is that really how it works?
>>737622408No, but if they wanted to really modernize it, they would do away with gearing and just have it go by the battle passes like that.
>>737622141because their solution retains gearing for alts. It has no impact til you outgear your main job but its still there and people can still play the gear upgrade mechanic as they get loot. This is important because loot plays a big role in keeping people hooked.Its genuinely the smartest solution
IS KATE FIRED?
>>737622141Its to allow people to play more. Lets say i spent the last two months capping my tomes to get my RDM gear but then decide i want to play WAR instead? well i either empty my bank paying for crafted gear or go "well i had to make a choice so at best i have last tiers raid or current dungeon gear for the tank role thats a step back from my dps gear".You still need to farm a set but you aren't locked to that job forever because of it.
>>737622514If I am BiS Healer gear, let's say iLevel 790, why would I gear anything else? As far as I understand it my other gear will be raised to 790 as well for all other Jobs?
>>737622591Shes been gone for like a year, based Koji is back.
>>737622662For minmax autism like materia and stat balancing. aka purely for unreal/savage sickos.
>>737622757So it basically kills any incentive for people to gear their alts at all outside of people who already raid. And those people are not going to use the ilevel sync thing because their autism over melds won't allow it. >>737622627>Its to allow people to play moreTo do what, farm more gear that you won't need? I am not trying to be difficult, but a lot of content experiments have shown that people don't play the game without rewards, and gear is probably the biggest on they have on offer.
>>737621960shut the fuck up hall monitor
>>737622903Hes right, XIV threads belong to /vg/
Seriously, what game is people playing that the tomestone system needs a change because people cant grind?The weekly tomestone is 450 and every day an expert roulete that is about 20 minutes gives you 90, doing that for 5 days you are already capped
>>737622924and hall monitors like you belong on Reddit
>>737622897But you were never getting more jobs geared before because it was locked at 450 tomes per week.
>>737622924Having generals doesn't mean game discussion is banned on /v/ newfag. The entire board will be dead if that was true. Fuck off.
>>737623080I bought a set of crafted gear which is usually good enough for any content outside of raiding. And if the new system doesn't cater to the raiders by not having the optimal materia spread I am at a loss who the system is for othat than saving the 1-2 mil gil you had to spend for the crafted stuff.
>>737622662Your premise is outside the design goal. Their target is avg casual who might consider playing an alt and then unsub cause he doesn't want to struggle with no gear. This allows casuals to flip between without getting punished.I think the real downside of this is they destroy the crafting system since they killed demand for gear with this but they probably also saw most people rather give up than engage with buying gear so they decided its worth to sacrifice.
>>737623171The average player has 3-7 million gil.
>>737616242the doomers on suicide watch
>>737616407There's literally nothing wrong with HER btw, she was just spammed too much by a bad writer and victim of a trannyversy (tranny controversy)
>>737623384>nothing wrong with this character except the writing and the acting!
>>737620746Nigga I am 32
>>737616591I dont think yoshipeepeepoopoo is responsible of budget. That sounds like CEOs job
>>737620746>people who can't play every day.thats most people
>>737623445Correct, she's a good girl that means well per se.
>>737622662There might be a chance that they will overhaul Materia and make Tenacity/Piety mandatory for tanks and healers, rendering the gear significantly worse for any other roles. If not and materia stays the way it is, in 99% of the cases just going for Crit > DH > Det will be satisfactory for most Jobs.
>>737619146Doubt wow players will complain. As long as something is made by blizz, its good
>>737623384She was good in the final post-EW patches. But once DT started it's like she became a whole different character and turned to absolute shit.
>>737623384If her writing and eng VA is bad then what's left?You just like the model?
I haven't played since Endwalker. Do I wait for this or do I play through Dawntrail?
>>737623881see >>737623653
>>737623935Wait until November
>>737623935I'm not going to lie 7.0 is the roughest its ever been. But you power through it and 7.2 onwards has been consistently great. Only mistep in the patch stuff is Occult Crescent is Eureka 0.5 instead of Bozja 2.0 but thats about it.
>>737623384The tranny NA VA was actually pretty low on the list of things wrong with this shit character
>>737623384based
>>737622979>doing that for 5 days you are already cappedYes, most people can not play 5 days a week. There are too many other things competing for your interest and not enough hours in the day to have DAILY CHORES in a game that's supposed to be fun
>>737620746The responses to this (factual) post is already telling. The "I'm 50 years old and have ten kids and can only play for five minutes each week" crowd are the ones who ruined classic games like Diablo, because they want every game to be as shallow and brief as possible to reward their inability to invest. It's like wanting movies trimmed down into a single tiktok because "it needs to respect my time".The whole fucking genre of MMOs was created around the idea of being a massive timesink. A character and world you invest in deeply, the entire premise of the game goes out the window when you try to Frankenstein it into a live service battle pass simulator that you only play for an hour a week. It's gonna make finding parties for the majority of content an even bigger chore, because there's no incentive to stick around.
Reborn is just going to be placed in the cuckshed to be taken out back after 9.0. They should just be honest and make Evolved the only "way" to play, while allowing the player to merge and separate skills as they see fit via an options menu, within whichever framework they allow, obviously.
No matter what they do in 8.0, 7.0 will still be there forever and everThe dogshit modern street clothes will still be thereWuk Lamat will still be thereAnyone new will have to suffer through that shit before reaching 8.0
>>737620920Yeah. That public pledge of support from the CEO was huge
>>737622591Quitely. Much like Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy there will be detractors but she/they is gone.
>>737623384>wuk revisionism can't you wait till Evercold comes out for this
>>737624756the hate was always hyperbolic + political and you know it
>>737623982So you like the writing?
>>737624873the whole campaign was political propaganda for jp immigration acceptance, original FF14 was "different cultures create conflicts due different values and we cant just mass import them" This xpac was a single multiculturalism advertisement preaching every step "everyone is a victim you cant blame for their crimes, just tolerate and appreciate them"
>adding a fucking battle passlmao, nope, bye
>>737623653
>>737624969Not the narrative and its rythm
>DRG now has its pvp LB dive and it gives a 90% DAMAGE REDUCTION until you dive back down.Its almost like fun rather than a 2 minute meta is a good idea.
>>737624873I found the character to be awful, her jap VA sounds good but even they didn't like her
>>737624873Beastmen should never be main characters, hopefully they learned their lesson and we never get this furry trash again. Game is gay enough as it is without yiffing furfags being given any sort of attention.
>>737625115Weird headcanon but ok
>>737625049Okay so its the initial characterisation that you like?Because I'd say I agree. But at the same time having a upbeat, naive and good hearted character is not really a rare thing in FF
>>737625051>Hide for Ninja is reworked for combat and does the same.
>>737625151>admitting you were biased about it from the get goThat's a mistake and helps my argument
>>737625161bazza mate move on.
>>737625165I enjoy genki personalities, what can I say
>>737625283speak human you shitskin animal.
>>737616591They pulled out an eva collab and shadowbringers free trial, player count must be circling the drain. The only emergency glass they didn't break was sephiroth.
>>737625051"Meta" is a cancer that has been killing multiplayer games for the past 15 years and all fault lies with League of Legends.Was vanilla WoW balanced? Was anyone banned from playing Shadow Priest because it's "not meta"? Did the dev team try to fully optimize burst windows for Warlocks? No the game was an unbalanced shitfest and still people look back at it so fucking fondly that it's currently one of the biggest income resources for BlizzardFUCK THE META.
>>737621467So basically you talk about the gameplay loop without actually engaging with it or having any experience doing actually challenging stuff. So your opinions have no merits ok.
>>737625238>Evolved Ninja sees a complete class rework>Becomes a pseudo XI Ninja and can Dodge Tank
>>737625394>This nigga hasnt realised they showed a fantasy version of midgar at the keynote.Nigga this IS the ff7 expansion its just norse themed rather than deiselpunk.
>>737625396Meta forms automatically when people want to play at their best.Crying and making shit up like with your wow claims just shows that you're somewhy feeling insecure and/or inadequate about yourself
>>737623384I played with her in Jp and literally never experienced an issue even once.
>>737625463What elements do you believe are from 7?
>>737625396>was vanilla wow balancedblizzard did try to actually balance it back when it first released, but no one fucking knew how to play their classes and no one was autistic enough to sit there and calculate different builds for 15 months before release like classic. So it ended imbalanced as shit because blizzard balanced around retards who sucked at playing the game even at the highest level. For reference, warriors in molten core now do about the average dps of .1% guilds in aq 40/naxx back in 2006
>>737625446Ultimates are not the gameplay loop, they are akin to a superboss in a real FF99% of the gameplay is in dungeons, FATES, and story instances
>>737625161>who has done more damage to the final fantasy franchise than enix holding buying out squaresoft. Ah yes the extensive damage of>taking over the utterly broken 1.0 version that was threatening to destroy the entire company and turn it around in such a spectacular way that a decade later it became one of if not the most popular mmos in the world>made another single-player mainline FF game that with all of it's faults is still the best FF game since XI'm not trying to imply that 16 was perfect or that Dawntrail wasn't a gigantic fuckup but you are just fucking mental if you think this man did not single-handedly save the entire company from financial ruin.
>>737618795Personally kinda disappointed, like sure lots of QoL changes but I still don't like the game's raiding model or how it plays, and really really REALLY wish the game got an overhaul removing its invisible walls and spaghetti code. I can't well describe how much I love immersive seamless worlds with no loading or instances separating zones like WoW or Genshin and I wish XIV cared about that.
>>737625596Kinda wish he'd work the picto outfit
>>737625527Want to=/=being forced to, retard-kun
>>737616242Nah still looks shitty and plays clunky. I'll wait 20 more years for the next ff mmo
>>737625153lol
>>737625596>best FF game since XXVI was like eating an overdone steak without salt or pepper. It was below average. The safest title in the series. At least XIII and XV tried to do something new
>>737625543>The world is dying>People live up above on plates>They have geothermal power draining the planet to make it weaker faster>They talk about a "promised land">Marble statues of the Midgar Zolom>Flower shot directly referencing the opening to FF7Remake>A "wanderer came from the sky">Giant titanic creatures walking the land
>>737622979It's also boring as SHIT so they're adding variety. Also for one week I've only went onto 437 tomes without realizing and now I can't buy a stupid piece of gear because of these random restrictions. I'd also like to just sit out and do something else for a week without missing out.
>>737625543Fun fact FF7 is based on Norse Mythology, thats why the city is called Midgar.
>>737622627Why not just remove lockouts on raid gear so you can just grind for gear if you want to instead of having to wait until some suits and Square decide it's alright for you to play more of the game? That's one thing that always turns me off of MMO's. My play time isn't consistent. Sometimes work is very busy one week but very slow the next. If the game won't let me just play and progress at my own pace I'm not playing, that's some dogshit mobile game design.
>>737625805>unironically defending XIIIHoly fuck
>>737625980They are trying to alleviate the amount of time you need to spend getting ready to do the things you want not expand it.
The thing I liked most is Yoship forcing the dev team to get this shit out early and claiming a lot of the changes are happening in 7.5x though attributed to 8.x, AND saying they are adding a shitload of content to the overworld on top of the normal patch cycles. If the dev team actually got enough budget and inventive and support to work at ARR/HW speed again, then the game is going to a good place.The expansion is pure norse mythology, like, I know they could woobify vikings and shit but hopefully they learned the lesson from dawntrail that they needed to. >floating islands, estinien alphinaud party, big snake dragon, frozen land>another reflection setting, WoL is the dark lone hero from nowhere, ascian villains and rejoinings central to the plotThis shit is trying to combine Heavensward and Shadowbringers to go to a new level of peak. If they fuck it up the game is dead forever.
Will this expansion sell more copies than Dawntrail or did Dawntrail kill the reputation of the game?
>>737625530The issue with her stems from her empire being shitty dora the explorer land and her not having a single political philosophy or anything worth thinking about until the dead baby forrest.
>>737625596>>made another single-player mainline FF game that with all of it's faults is still the best FF game since X
>>737625543I haven't done anything past 7.0, so IDK who the girl or if any of the stuff was already mentioned in patches.The Promised Land Meracydia is probably the frozen world below the sky islands. Old woman mentions it while telling the story to the scaly girl.Old woman seems extra old, so she's probably an Ancient Cetra thing.I wasn't able to immediately spot anything else.Could the titanic figures be this shard's version of the Gem Weapons?
>>737616242>NEW MAIN TANK, PROBABLY DOUBLE SHIELDWhy is every room temp IQ retard saying this? He obviously used that shirt to make it seem like it's double shield but it has never been that obvious
>>737626094Dawntrail was a rocky attempt to restart after Endwalker while WoW was trying its own "we are so back" expansion.But now Dawntrails bad .0 version was 2 years ago and people are excited for the changes while WoW is being vibe coded by copilot and falling apart and they are having to put out statements of apology as subs are plummetting. This shit always swings back and forth.
>>737623384I know this is a bait, but kill yourself. The game lose like over 1 million subs because of her and the game is down so bad that yoshida had to breaek emergency glass on everything
>>737625885I thought they lived in a floating city. And where is this geothermal power. Yes there's a volcano town but one town isn't the entire 4th
>>737625805>At least XIII and XV tried to do something newYeah and XIII was fucking dogshit that only got sequels because Lightning was literally the director's waifu.Meanwhile XV is a game where the best thing to do is not progress past Leviathan so you can just keep doing your road trip stuff and hunt monsters.
>>737626181Its probably tower shield blunt weapon like the leaks were saying, big hammer or mace or flail
>>737626270I'm womdering if the islands are floating for normal aether reasons or because of yggdrasil or something. They showed giant frozen tree imagery but there wasn't a literal 3d model.
>>737626270the islands are carried on top of the Jotun walking across the frozen wastes, they are arcane constructs carrying geothermal aether up to the au ra and lynels living above.
The viewership of the trailer is kinda doing bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3rfUC80DE&t=2sLike Dawntrail was at like 700k or 1m by now.
>>737626440The giants are considered enemies and I saw people saying they looked like Sin from 10. They could either be interdimemsiomal aliens on par with Jenova or they could be the replacement for the weapons considering ARR and Shadowbringers already blew that load.
>>737626094I doubt it will sell more. The same thing about with wow. DF and TWW was technically better than shadowland, but shadowland hurt the game so much that people didnt care anymore. Also The viewership for the evercold trailer is extremely weak compared to previous trailers.>its a teaser trailerever since dawntrail it is the teaser trailer that get most of the view
>>737616242Explain evolve mode to me like I'm a retard.
>>737616242>>NORDIC AND AUTHURIAN SETTING Yeah because those haven't both been done to death.
>>737626459It's not a rewatchable trailer, it's a video about someone building a 3D CGI diorama, barely has action or characters, I don't know why are they wasting animation in things like that, the spriggan Limit Break in the dawntrail trailer has more screen time than most of the scions.
>>737626094Dawntrail damaged the reputation and killed the momemtum at a bad time considering Endwalker was an out for people who wanted an out. People will come back slowly if the new plotline kicks off and they hear about a new shadowbringers in the game.
>>737626310It's going to be a gun and shield tank
>>737626698Riot cop bros... PLD stole riot blade from us
>>737626698The gun is in the shield but we aren't dual wielding it. Its just to differentiate it from paladin.
>WARRIORS OF LIGHT>YOU. MUST. BE. BETTER. MEN.
>9 months until releasekill me
>>737625885Would be cool if the reason for the cold was a meteor carrying a certain alien thing that crashed down and caused an ice age.
>>737626843I was expecting it to be 9 months from october so I'm pleasantly surprised that its so close to the last fanfest and full trailer.
>>7376268432nd part of occult crescent c-coming
>>737626923I'm assuming the ascians weren't actively setting this up at the same time as the flood of light on the first and the 7th umbral calamity. So its not a manmade second ice age.
WHICH JOB WILL I PLAY THROUGH EVERCOLD??
>>737627027Reaper is canon, two new jobs exist, could always go astrologian or white mage, could continue with viper, could play warrior or dark knight or gunbreaker or paladin, could play monk or samurai, could play black mage or summoner.
>>737627018I hope it's not. Let disasters just happen for no reason sometimes, please. If ascians want in on it, they can try using it to their advantage.
>>737626546From what I can tell>Basic combo is now a one-button rotation>Abilities are mow more dynamic gameplay wise>Trimming down abilities while still trying to keep thintgs "fun"For instance the Dragoon example they did;>1-2-3 combo is now one button>Every 10 seconds in combat gets a Dragonsbane charge, up to three>Dragonsbane is used to do one of three attacks that get a directional boost (The Rear attack requires the other Left and Right attacks to be done properly first)>Now has three charges on Jump, which is now Vengeful Jump>Vengeful Jump removes the directional requirement for your next Dragonsbane attack, and also gives a Blood of the Dragon stack>At three Blood of the Dragon stacks, Stardiver becomes available and leads into a combo capped off with Starcross>Doing the Stardiver combo then gives access to Sky High (Yes, the PvP Limit Break is a regular ability now) which then leads into Heaven's Fallhttps://www.youtube.com/live/_aCGzxWczCM?t=24015&si=AXwuxl2vTonkwfHU
>>737626094Just no. Anyone hoping for that is a retard. It going to take awhile to build trust with people who stopped playing and post about ff14
>>737626527They're ice sin eaters
>Reborn job player walks in
>>737626459Not rewatching after seeing it once. Dawntrail had raha take a bite of a taco
>>737627265Oh yeah also>Dragonsbane Left-Right attacks give Geirskogul/Nastrond ready>The Rear attack gives Wyrmwind ThrustAnd EVERYONE HAS CONTINUATION NOW
>>737627156Which one will give me the biggest penis
>>737621190I’ve been playing for 1.0, and I’m on/off with raiding (only Ult I did was TEA, and stopped Pandamonium at P11S). My attention became wanting to really complete all relics and bettering my characters with personal completion goals (not full achievement autismo), and I got really into PvP cause I really loved how the jobs played since 6.1’s overhaul. So now I’m excited, because they way jobs played in PvP was fun.On a side note, now I know what these new icons they were prepping for roles. 06290 and 06291 are for Main/Off rank like how they added icons for pure/shield healer.
Dawntrail existing will always ruin the story from now on, the next expansions could all be 11/10 and would still be kneecapped becasue nobody wants to suffer through DT.
>>737627602From 1.0, not for.* I’m still in bed lol. My dumbass thought this was a new ranged tease and they pretended it was Alphinaud. But it was him cause there were two bits flying around as he ran up.
>>737627616I see the ARR filter complaint has returned
>>737627381Sin eaters and voidsent are both treated as zombie plagues, ice giants seem to be treated as "they just showed up" i don't think ice as an element makes sin eaters regularly. Not without long exposure to a primal.
Genuinely thinking of restarting the whole game with a controller after a years long absence (gave up at shadowbringers because Bard was too hard on my fingersy).How fucked am I? How painful is a proper controller setup? Should I even do it?
So Viper evolved is going to be 2 buttons?
>>737627819Dawntrail is much worse than ARR.
>>737627392>the devs have to implement "Evolved Only" for PF because WARs refuse to play it
>>737626947i didn't buy this garbage expansion
>>737628042Controller has been mostly easy if you set up the w cross hotbar. I started on ps4 back in heavensward and only ever used controller since. And evolved seems purpose built for making it easier.
>>737628051Viper evolved isnt going to be changed much unless they can give it a weird identity action about swapping dual sword and twin sword modes.
>>737616242without all this mumbo jumbo, tell meis FFXIV worth playing if the only MMO I ever played to endgame was SWTOR and my favourite thing to do was raiding (inc. progging with group)?
>>737628359I hate raiding and play SWtOR for story. FFXIV was my main MMO until dawntrail but apparently raids increased in quality during dawntrail.
>>737628359if you like raiding FFXIV is the best one on the market
>>737628359Yeah, you can prog with randoms but it will be faster if you find yourself a raid group.
>>737627265So they basically took PVP rotations and made them PVE rotations.
>>737623653Within her own world, sure, but not as she's written and presented.
which republic classes have a fun story in swtor?
>>737628651smuggler is pretty goodI heard knight is basically what kotor III would have been, your classic SW Jedi story I guess
>>737628538Dude who is in charge of all this single handedly was also pic related
>>737628836
>>737628836>>737628890
>>737628836>>737628890I fucking KNEEL
>>737627819Dude, nobody in their right minds believe dawntrail is better than arr.
>>737628359Honest....No.
>>737628954Good thing I never claimed that
>>737627819>>737628058>>737628954>>737629020In case you wondering why. It has to do with the game slowly improving writing wise each expansion (yes even stormblood) and suddenly you met with dawntrail writing being so childish that you questioning why, the world feels fake and the character even faker. This is why I think its kinda sad for whoever is writing evercold. bc no matter how good it is, people will have to go through dt to reach it.
>>737629140The writing itself has improved over time (until DT) but the actual setting itself has diminished since Stormblood ended. Going to an entirely different planet in the middle of the war that's been built up to since 1.0 was a stupid idea, especially since said war was now wholly within the higher Ascian plot.
>>737628651Lightside Trooper for being Captain Republic.I liked Consular, but everyone else seemed to hate it so idk.
>>737616242I look forward to seeing how the battle system changes turn out. Level 110 is fucking gay though.
>>737628651>KnightGeneric, has a little wiggle room with DS options, generally fine>ConsularBoring, I don't think they knew what they actually wanted to do here>SmugglerCool up until the last act afaik>TrooperMass Effect but in Star Wars. FemTrooper is literally FemShep to boot.
>>737616242Dude if you wanted to shilltbis shit you completely forgot to put a name on it but I guarantee 80% don't know what no dime slop you're talking about
>>737629458Lets just hope them giving up on alternate progression is worth it in other content being fleshed out
>>737629267100% agree with you on the setting. I feel like they went out of their way to solve of ton of shit in EW (i liked ew btw) and replace it with nothing. I also disliked the reveal that the 12th was just venat friends instead of being human auspice.
>>737629465You're too retarded to be the target audience.
>>737629589ShB was mostly fine if a bit meandering, but yeah EW is where they shit the bed. So much of it is rushed for the sake of finishing it all up while also diminishing so much of what already existed.
>>737623168>Having generals doesn't mean game discussion is banned on /v/ newfag.Tell that to pragmata, crimson desert, resident evil threads
>>737630075Yes, I will defend their right to post here. Bring in the UMA threads.
>>737629140Hopefully the evolved combat is fun enough to get players through DT, otherwise I genuinely think they should give players a way to skip through it. DT's writing is such unbelievable ass that it made me drop the game, and I've been playing since late HW. Hell, even with what they are promising now, I'm still not going to resub until I KNOW the next expansion is good because DT was such a fucking slog. I didn't even buy their promises before DT and went in with no expectations, and it still ended up way worse than I thought it could possibly be.
>>737628359It depends. Do you want to 'play' 500 hours of visual novel to reach endgame?
>>737628359have they fixed the absolutely mindnumbingly boring>walk cutscene 15min>combat 2min>repeatfor like what 200-400 hours?have they trimmed down post ARR even more because that was just so bad
>>737630374They said they want to make the overwprld more meaningful but I don't recall hearing them say anything like "we are shoving combat quests into the MSQ where we had previously removed them or where they didn't exist before"
>>737630539hmm maybe the whole evolved combat makes combat more fun
>>737620920I cannot believe he got the CEO to just say that, it makes no sense as a ploy either, I actually believe those words: ARE YOU JOIN US?
>>737616242While I do like the job changes for bard its still not perfect:>you’re given buff choice which is good but its across 3 buffs that aren’t actually necessary or useful aside from the movement speed oneI really wish the barrier one was mp song because barrier is just the same thing as a regen in terms of use context.I also wish they just use offensive buffs instead of trying to incorporate a variety of buff choices without actually changing dps. Why not give a buff choice between damage up, crit up and attack speed up? This way you will choose based on party composition or better yet you can make them targeted and choose based on who the receptor is. Maybe dancer will work like this idk.White mage is literally exactly the same as it was before except that now you have seemingly a second afflatus misery mechanic going on at the same time. Quite literally nothing about this job changes except you will use healing gcds which you already did with afflatus, afflatus even replaces cure.I have to wait and see what they do to the other healers and see if they are as massively changed as bard because white mage was unimaginably unimpressive.I am not really a fan of full kit at 50. This doesn’t really make the progression aspect exciting since theres nothing new to look forward to when leveling anymore. What this change does is essentially make level 50 into the real level cap, thats all. Anything past this point is just a potency upgrade. You might as well stop adding new levels, have an actual stopgap level and focus on sidegrading things, looks like we’re too late for that now. Same goes for global ilvl, its just another level to look at, probably your actual level.
>>737616318>>>/wowg/ that way
>>737628651>>737629463Might come back, i remember JK was basically.... save planet from big planet destroying weapon x5
>>737616242>>DESTROYING THE TRADITIONAL MMO GEAR MODEL WOW RUINED THE GENRE WITXIV's items are somehow even more boring than WoW.
Evolved mode looks like a legitimate shitshow waiting to happen.
>>737616242Where is the source for all of this
>>737616242>full kit at 50So basically no new skills after level 50? Whats the point of reaching level 110 then?
>>737630794A fun one! Less buttons and more action is always betterB-but my 500 ButtonsFuck off never should have been that way anyways
>>737630794It will either be really good or really bad which is why they left legacy mode alone for every job. I'm willing to give evolved a chance though.
>>737625153He's right though. The shitty VA is so far down on the list of things wrong with the character and Dawntrail it shouldn't even be brought up. They make up less than 1% of the population and everyone wastes so much time thinking about them.
I don't know how I feel that there are going to be only two main tanks since that means I'll have to wait in queue for a long time since two main tanks is quite limited.
>>737622979The problem is the cap, I get get five pieces of raid gear + weapon that I need in one week but it takes FIVE WEEKS to get the same for tome pieces, 6 for the upgraded weapon
>>737630810The two big streams of fanfest yesterday. Most of it wasn't in the trailer itself.
Someone explain the battle pass to me? Is there still a weekly cap, and I have to go to the npc to get geared up?
>>737630943Main and off tank arent different roles. They didn't put dark knight into the dps category. You can clear content with off tanks but combining main and off tank in high end content parties is what will give the largest boost to party performamce.
>>737630849To do level 110 content.
>>737631043They moved most dailies into weeklies. Thats what the "battlepass" is.
>>737630963Five weeks isn’t a longtime though. We wait 3 years in average for an expansion.
>>737616242>2 MINUTE META: DEAD FOREVERrDPS and needing to play synchronized as a team gone? kek>le parry for tanksxd? might be ok but jesus sounds tedious >plugsuitsacually kino>tomestone farming gonegood riddance>group finder region widereally good>full kit at 50not bad not goodso, this sounds pretty good all around?
>>737630849Above level 50 they want to add effects or potency increases and branching skills. But the full playstyle of the job will be recognizable by the end of ARR. No more waiting until hawke manor for dragoon to have an AOE.
>>737631082You can make the level 110 content scale to 50 and nothing would change though.So whats the point of raising the level cap? There isn’t one.
>>737630943Main/off tank is just a really bad choice of words. It's like cast healer and bubble healer, they're both fundamentally the same role, but how they accomplish it is different.
>>737616242I'm down for pretty much everything because the game is stale as shit. But the Main tank/off tank thing is retarded.
>>737631103So... I should still be able to cap for the week through hunt trains after each reset for the week like I've always been doing?
>>737631046>>737631190So technically two ot should still be able to clear any content. It will just be harder?
>>737631203I'm assuming hunt trains will give a significant amount but its more like doing your challenge log.
>>737631043Instead of grinding the main expert dungeons every day or relying on hunt trains you can do other shit for your weekly notTomes. You can craft and gather now to work towards endgame non crafted gear now. Basically just play the game instead of grinding the same shit day and out.
Spoke with a Japanese friend, who tells me that apparently the "legacy" controls are expected to edge out slightly over "evolved," and they wouldn't be surprised to see the latter being excluded from PFs. Not that there's any way to check, probably.
>>737631171>Above level 50 they want to add effectsSource? Adding new effects means changing the kit, and everyone is saying we get the full kit at 50. A potency increase isn’t a real change to the job or upgrade its just inflating numbers for both player and enemy to give a false sense of progression.
>>737628836saving the game again
>>737631173>You can make the level 110 content scale to 50 and nothing would change though.Yeah, but they're not doing that, so you'll still need to level up to engage with the majority of content and reach endgame.
>>737630924That faggot grumz actually did damage by blowing up the VA issue to the point where Yoshi could just handwave all the criticism as coming from a bunch of lunatics.
>>737631323I don't think I screenshotted that slide but it was explained in the evolved mode showcase panel stream.
>>737631323You can customize your skill animations according to the keynote yesterday.
>>737631315Max said evolved is a lot more fun and does 5% more damage overall
>>737631273More like it will just be less efficient for anything outside of endgame. We still haven't seen much of the system, but my impression is that 90% of the time it will be like doing a raid where both of your healers are astrologians or sages. Once you start serious raiding you'll probably want to start being picky about tanks, though.
>>737631280>>737631302Naruhoto... it makes it clearer now, because I was worried I would be forced to do those "battlepass" activities to have to gear up since I saw all those rewards at the bottom.
>>737631403What does this have to do with anything I said? Thats just a cosmetics thing, theres nothing mechanical about it.>>737631397Sure but new effects clearly means changing how a job works. If a certain skill now gave a damage up buff when attacking from the side at level 55 then that changes something about how the job works therefore you do not have the full kit at level 50. Especially if some of these “effects” added at later levels are related to the job gauge
Anyone got some pictures of the possibly new classes?
>>737631557>Naruhotojust type naruto at this point bossanywaysis this shit worthy to try out the game again or nah?what does the new rotation shit do? is it just easier and simpler?
>>737631648It deoends on how high your tolerance is for dawntrails bullshit and how much you want to come back. I kind of zoned out on the timeline but a lot of changes will be in the game by 8.0.
>>737631515That makes sense now. Though, I still don't like the idea of only having two main tanks if you're doing endgame content since it might take a while with only two to pick from for endgame content.
>>737631648It is PVP style rotations in PVE. Simpler, easier to play, also gives contextual actions like PLD's new skill that has holy spirit and clemency tied to it based on whether you are targeting an enemy or friendly. No one will really know how good it is until July or so. WHM damage spells are mostly all instant cast now.
>>737631774last I played was shb desuidk raiding was pretty boring, parsing wasn't even fun now thinking back at itand everyone uses plugins anyways as soon as they get up... even week 1
>>737616242God help me, but these changes have given me a little tingle of hope. I'll still wait to see how it all turns out, but this really does seem like a good step.
>>737631648
>>737631438I don't know who Max is, but there's no way that's correct, unless they're just extremely bad at the game normally.
>>737620824>Here is a new categorization system>Paladin and my special OC donut steel new tank class (pls buy the expansion) are the giga chad main tanks that do all the fun stuff>DRK, GNB, and WAR are the cuck tanks that are occasionally allowed to take aggro and mostly buff and debuff for the main tankI'm surprised this didn't cause more of a melty.
>>737631861>WHM damage spells are mostly all instant cast nowlol?they turned it from full cast and have to do minor slidecasting into same as astnow they will turn it into full out instantwhat is the point of this then, healing is braindead for healers, now the dps part is too and u are 100% uptime whatever happens lol
>>737631963 Yoship said on stage evolved was slightly stronger but from the explanation I think there will be variance depending on job.
>>737631902ahhh I seeso they literally turned 1 2 3 into 1 spam xdfuck men the devs casualize everything further for more subs saw they are adding middle ground for savage and normals and savage first floor is literally just in and out with 1 eh mechanic that takes 3 braincells
I would play but I lost my account info and Google deleted my email. RIP.
>>737616318>>737616376If a tranny poster calls a game a tranny game, do you listen to them?
any twinems here!
>>737616242I hope the new tank is called magitek knight
>>737631974Have to wait and see what they do with the other 3.White mage is literally unchanged, the “new features” are quite literally another lily mechanic on top of the existing one that applies to regular casted cures.Maybe astrologian and scholar will see more interesting changes in their kit. I am kind of hoping they will give astrologian a variety of buffs again but after seeing bard i am almost positive they wont.
>>737631967Nobody really cares about endgame raiding anymore now that all the troons that parse have ack-ed themselves and creator of FF logs said he'd quit.
>>737632057Beyond consolidating a combo into one button they showed off how targeting changes your skills, how movement changes your skills and how evolved has unique actions compared to reborn. Such as paladin having a counter attack based on timing mitigations or applying a shield to an ally by charging at them or by making shield bash work better.White mage has a skill that is procced when you heal that damages and heals. Bard has a directional dodge attack. Dragoon has 90% damage mitigation true dragoon jump that they can aim instead of getting animation locked.
>>737616591>>737625394>The only emergency glass they didn't break was sephiroth.So first off, according to LuckyBancho numbers, which are skewed, despite Dawntrail sucking it s till had Shadowbringers numbers. Second, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth sold so poorly that Square Enix still has never said anything about its sales numbers, meanwhile they have announced sales numbers for every game that came both before and after Rebirth, and they've even been updating the sales numbers of games that released years before Rebirth, all while saying absolutely nothing about Rebirth at all. That's how badly it flopped. So if Final Fantasy VII is being put into XIV, I genuinely believe it's to bolster the sales of the Final Fantasy VII Remake, not to bolster the sales of XIV. All of the changes made to XIV itself are what's meant to bolster the sales of XIV.
>>737616242I hope it's good, I hope they don't let the tranny menace ruin the story again.
>>737616381>34,827,000 paid accountsKek, go watch cocomelon, zoomzoom.
>>737632246I didn't say they think xiv is a bad game I said the player count is doing bad enough to put shadowbringers on the free trial and look for a non-square enix game crossover collab with """the biggest anime franchise ever"""
>Subscription based game in 2026>playercount is all low as fucking wow, -900k by now>goodthe faster FF14 and WoW dies, the better
>>737632434I know what you said and I responded to what you said.
>>737617570Reborn for cozy dungeons and fatesEvolved for sweaty raids and trials
>>737632245>White mage has a skill that is procced when you heal that damages and heals. Bard has a directional dodge attack. Dragoon has 90% damage mitigation true dragoon jump that they can aim instead of getting animation locked.these should have always been part of the gameevery class is unironically same with different icons/animations lolvery very minor changes in how tank mits workedast had card buffs that were the bare minimum, shit ton of cards that are either melee or ranged do these dodge stuff even matter though, tanks always have 100% uptime on getting tanked no? you will never use the dodges unless it is meme wipefest already
havent played since 2023 and just boughted dawntrailwhat am i in for?
>>737616242I already liked the game in DT (7.0 and 7.1 story and some hiccups with content aside)But I like this even more.So people who were critical are happier, I am happier.I've got nothing (or not much, at any rate) to complain about or be concerned about.
>>737625463if its not dieselpunk then whats even the point lmao
>>737632483ah forgot, long lost kaiten if there was even 1% of uniqueness they made it go awayusing resources too hard when they are opt-in and not part of hard rotations
I'll just say weaving in between stuff is fun to pull off, and that can really only be done frequently with all the low cooldown oGCDs we have currently. Here's hoping Evolved meets that level of enjoyment somehow. >>737631357Ya. It absolutely turned casual normies away since it was highly publicized, like a trash fire next to a popular restaurant. Naturally people would steer away from it.
>>737632530>what am i in for?
>>737616242It doesn't matter. The new combat just put me off of it.
>>737623815Well, yeah. Kate took over.
>>737632245>White mage has a skill that is procced when you heal that damages and healsNo. When they heal with hardcasted cures they get “sanctity stacks” which stack up to 3, exactly like the lily mechanic which is also still there. Theres a new ogcd skill whos damage is based on how many sanctity stacks you have, just like afflatus misery and lilies
>mfw a gang of green lalagoblins dragging me away to plunder my dick
>>737632410there are not 34 million people playing this shit my man
>>737632410So you're a 39-50 year old tranny?
>>737632567ive been skipping all non voiced cutscenes since heavensward
>>737625805>It was below averageWhich, shockingly, makes it the best FF since X
>>737621373they acknowledged that the 2 minute meta was causing problems with fight design, where the boss had to sit there every 2 minutes and let you burst>it's weird how you pull and the boss says "I'm gonna kill you!" and then just stand there for 30 secondsso fights are going to get less downtime mechanics wise
>>737616591I really wonder if that thing with Kiryu saying they'll give the game more money was pure memetic lip service, or if that's actually going to happen.I'd say: the evidence speaks for itself with regard to all the shit they announced, are planning to add, overhaul, etc. But I can't really make that argument until the execution is at least half as good as we all hope it might be.
>>737632530Unironically dora the explorer tier understanding of politics and culture. Complete lack of stakes. Terrible characterization and lack thereof. Then a complete switch over into ff9bait in a cyberpunk dimensional bubble.
I really liked ff13 actually, even though it isn't universally lovedI will try out ff14 nextI love a decent jrpg desu
>>737632635I said paid account, you illiterate niggerydiggerydoo>>73763263641MaleLooking for a twink to fillYou volunteering, cupcake?
>>737632667I know this should be obvious, but I'm honestly really happy they acknowledged it all the same.
>>737632245If you don’t understand what was going on in each dev panel why give information about it? Thats not how white mage works.
Since they're getting rid of the two minute meta does this mean fights in the future will finally not be scripted?
>>737632642Oh, then you're in for some pretty good battle content.
>>737617830But I wanna see the heads of states in plugsuits, including the male ones
>>737632667>they acknowledged that the 2 minute meta was causing problemsno, all of the fights are braindead they could make doing top dps and rotations hard with really hard and movement intensive mechanicsbut instead they cater to casuals lolthe difficulty won't increase with these changesthere is a reason top lvl parsing is just rng crits
>>737627450I assume the Continuation icon is a placeholder; same for current sky high still having the lb icon, and BRD using the duty action 1/2 icons
>>737625657Nobody is forcing you.Also you don't have to sign your posts on this website
>>737620746I do play every day and I still prefer the idea of weekly based progression over daily based
>>737632726>Looking for a twink to fillAlways a top, never a bottom.
>>737622234that would result in some really stupid shit like popping inner chaos during downtime even if the buff runs out just to build 50 gauge for a regular fell cleave. plus the fflogs people would never, they ride their egos in accurately calculating metrics from logs to the point where they will send c&d letters to modders who implement the same rdps calcs to live dps meters (if you ever wondered why none of the popular mod meters calculate rdps in real time even though they have in the past)
>>737625596>>737625805>best FF game since XBest game since X is a tough call, but it's definitely the best game since XII. XVI was also the first game since XII that was not part of a trilogy. This is not a coincidence. Final Fantasy sucks now because for the past ~20 years, every single game except XVI has been part of a trilogy. XIII began this with FNC. Square Enix needs to stop making Final Fantasy trilogies. They are killing the Final Fantasy brand.
>>737632896It's a crime
I've never seen doomniggers so raped before, it's funny. They're flailing like retards.
>no dead wuk>kate not publicly humiliated>no yoshita naked dogezashan't be resubscribing
>>737632745That's the implication.Like >>737632667 greentexted. That's what they said themselves.
>>737625805XIII was dogshit, and it was dogshit separated out over 3 whole games because the guy had a Lightning fetish.XV was unfinished dogshit propped up by over a decade of hype as it switched hands and got reworked several times behind the scenes only to end up a tattered tapestry of random events masquerading as a story.XVI is not ideal. It's way too rigid in many ways, and its story was, despite having some high points, overall tepid.But it was serviceable. Serviceable is an improvement compared to XIII and XV.
>>737632989DIRGE OF THE CERBERUS WAS BASED THO
Yoshi "you will play ffxvi" p
Shart Peenix is fucking doomed lmaoTotal Bankruptcy by next yearTabata will have his revenge
>>737633047It really is funny how completely XIV won and how totally and utterly destroyed doomtrannies are. XIV is saved, meanwhile WoW gets a canon tranny pride parade officially in the game.
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>>737633047They're grasping for straws.I know all the hype can come crashing down at any point between now and 8.0 release (or after 8.0 release) and they're probably primed to go full schadenfreude mode if that happens, but right now, I can't really think of why anyone who has an actual vested interest in XIV and wanting to see it improve would be complaining about things shown off in Evercold.
I want to know how they're changing BLM for Evolved, they ruined the Reborn version so badly that my only hope is that the Evolved mode will actually have some modicum of difficulty beyond casting fire spells until I run out of mana.
>>737633087>That's what they said themselvestrusting what people say loldo you trust that AI is the culprit for downsizing?no, companies just need an excuse to let go more people as it is more profitableonly reason 2min buffs are gone is the casual playerbase that doesn't do savage content/play the game long after msq is done is a net loss of revenueto make them sub longer, they make more content that is for them (middle difficulty between norms and savage)more grind, weeklies that seem less grindy but they want you to pay per month, you get less burnout so you play longer/sub longereasier gameplay, reborn modeeasier gameplay, no 2 min buff windowsthis is all designed to get more subsnot to make the game better
>all female hrothgar will forever be associated with wuk lamatit's so over...
>>737633270Real question since I'm not a WoW player and I don't really keep up with WoW stuff.But is WoW really moving more towards 2 minute metas now when XIV is moving away from it?
>>737633210XVI smacked hard of first generation ps3 moviegames but with better giraffix, yeah, not ideal(not sarcasm).
>parsetranny all lowrcase meltdown
>>737633338well they all look like shit just like the males so its not like wuk hurt them that much
>>737633305The 2m meta made the game better?
Kinda feel like subbing just to log in and jerk off to my chocolate skinned futa viera, but then I won't have anything else to do for the rest of the month
>>7376332131) Dirge came out before XII2) I am not accounting for spin offs or MMOs, just single player mainline titles, which does include the VII Remake because Final Fantasy VII is a mainline title and Remake and Rebirth have each individually had a budget of ~$120m while XVI only had a budget of ~$60m, so the VII Remake trilogy is going to have had a budget that is six (6!!) times higher than the budget of XVI, killing all question as to whether or not Square Enix considers it a mainline Final Fantasy title
only thing keeping this game alive is troons larping as a chick with a dick on balmung, kinda pathetic desu
>>737633338>it's so over>implying it ever startedThey fumbled Hrothgar so fucking hard.
>>737621424Half of it is shitposting and the other half is console war bullshitIf you decide to only play on Switch 2, it's the normal sub price. If you want to play on other platforms and Switch 2 it's 1.5x price. User 1:PC,PS,XBOX - Normal SubUser 2:Switch 2 - Normal SubUser 3:PC,PS,XBOX, Switch 2 - Normal Sub + 50% off Switch2 Sub
>>737633353>But is WoW really moving more towards 2 minute metas now when XIV is moving away from it?I'd like to know this also, but WoWtrannies might not reveal themselves. I do know that they have a one-button-combo feature now though.
>>737633213DIRGE was shit. Even crisis core with that flamboyant prose reading faggot is better.
This sounds pretty good and I might play it. It'll be expensive though. Either buy a DT story skip or risk spontaneously jumping out the window from mental anguish.
>>737633418objectively yes
>>737625463That's the vibe I got from the screenshots and concept art too, a lot of different art reminded me of stuff like the temple of the ancients but not in ruins. It's like they are basing the design motif around what the world of FF7 used to look like during the golden age of the Citra where the planet was more of a high fantasy setting before Jenova fucked it up.
Doomsissies aren't sending their best
>wuk lamat was so damaging that they had to go ACTUALLY THIS IS THE REAL EXPANSIONlmao
>>737632612>No. When they heal with hardcasted cures they get “sanctity stacks” which stack up to 3, exactly like the lily mechanic which is also still there. Theres a new ogcd skill whos damage is based on how many sanctity stacks you have, just like afflatus misery and liliesLilies and Afflatus are timegated. You have to wait for lilies to charge so you can spend them to build to Misery. You can also currently handle all healing entirely with OGCDs. The primary reason you use lilies is for movement and to charge Misery, not actually for healing. In the new system you charge Sanctuary any time you heal with any GCD. So if damage is frequent enough you can charge Sanctuary more frequently. You also have far less OGCDs, so you're being forced to rely on GCD heals instead of just mashing Glare and pressing OGCD heals between.
>>737633543the larp goes crazy
>>737633459Mmn being wrong is so yummy yummy in my tummy! Mmmm! More please! :)
>>737633595They're waiting for something they can use to doompost with. Something of substance.In the meantime, they're just going to be aimlessly "OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA"posting as filler.
>>737633338Femroth is the official trannyrace
>>737633694>The game getting simplified to hell in order to accommodate Shitchbabs isn't doom worthyOh I'm laffin'
>>737633619And that's a good thing
So is Evolved coming before the expansion?I WAS going to do some catch up on story and post-MSQ content, maybe hop back in to do more Eureka since I did Bozja some months ago, but if all these sweeping changes are actually coming than I really feel like I should just wait.I guess the alternative is just doing it and making a new character though, which doesn't sound all that unappealing since I've also got the unlocked glam stuff and alleged zone revamps to look to.
>>737633770>keynote status: unwatched Many such cases and I don't blame you. Why would anyone watch a keynote for something they hate? Anyways, your statement is still wrong and worthless.
So who's writing this expac?
doomsissies gonna freak!
>>737630374They directly stated in the keynote that they will be improving “questing”
>>737633852we don't know yet
>>737633852george rr martin
>>737633852Zenos is coming back btw, he's going to be a scion that remains on The Source to do things nobody else can in your absence.
>>737633770>N.. no... my 123.... the peak of complexity....
>>737633624>You also have far less OGCDs, so you're being forced to rely on GCD heals instead of just mashing Glare and pressing OGCD heals between.Source?Tetragammatron was still there and whm always used GCD heals to heal, just not cure.They also said sanctuary essentially replaces the damage you lost from casting cures, so it depends entirely on whether its actually a potency increase or just a damage refund, afflatus misery works exactly like the latter, and its still there
>>737633770NOW I CANNOT PRESS 1 AND 2 ON SUMMONER ANYMORE! ACK!
>>737633824Gotta wait for 9 months. The only thing coming before expansion is cross-DC PF.
>>737633925>>737633534The only evidemce of zenos coming back is WoL posing in trailer like zenos did in ew trailer.I want zenos back, I will be happy if my friend and rival returns. I know that will be the number one spoiler if it happens. But I want to be surprised by it too.
>>737634007I can't believe Yoshi is pregnant with Evercold...
>>737633906Why wouldn't they reveal that immediately? Unless they know it wouldn't go well.
>>737633903Yeah, but I doubt it'll be retroactively. If it did, that would be great.I'm really curious to see what their improvements to quest, open fields, hunts, FATEs, maps, etc. amount to. I don't expect the world, but any sort of improvement will be appreciated.
>>737634059They are spreading everything out across three fanfiestas. Trust the plan.
>>737633418>The 2m meta made the game better?no, 2m meta or whatever else is just people pressing soulless buff button together, holding hands and chanting for parsegods the problem with XIV design is that everything is borderline braindead, and the devs aren't interested in doing something about itit is just weird seeing threads like this preaching to changes here, which are basically nothing burger and no differencewhat cool new thing did they add? cause I see none, you are welcome to mention what you see is actually interestingfrom what I see it is 99.99% the same game but yoshi-p acts like he just innovated the whole genre, there are minor changes that have no change even in practice, jump for dragoon is actually damage mit, parry for tank with timing which is qte, which is just more tediousthe devs/square just wants more money, money comes from getting people to play the game moreff14 is not first an action/mmorpg game but instead an msq sim that is meant to have cool animation/vfx instead of cool gameplay elements
>will have a full kit by the time you hit level 50Oh shid that's great what the hell
>>737633983>Source?The presentation.>Tetragammatron was still thereHow many other OGCD heals were there? Go count them for me.>They also said sanctuary essentially replaces the damage you lost from casting curesAll cures, not just lilies on a timer. And they said it was a damage gain. So your damage on WHM is now about GCD healing, with Glare only there during stray moments when you can't heal.
>>737634080They have already done this before and it was retroactive. They shaved nearly 40 hours of horseshit off of ARR last time they did this.
>>737634059Probably to avoid speculation or blame. As in not laying all blame on hiroi. But possibly to avoid it somehow spoiling anything.
>>737633910They will be. Evercold announced basically.. what? 90% - 95% of what people wanted them to do, of which a lot of them are things people never ever believed they even would do. There's really not much to drive a wedge with other than that character window temp UI mockup looking kinda mobilesloppy for now, and being able to spread falsehoods about the new job designs around other people who haven't been paying attention.
>>737634129kay
>>737634182I thought they meant improving questing as in adding more interesting objectives, adding more combat to the MSQ going forward, having fewer but more meaningful side quests in 8.0-8.x content, etc.
>>737634154>Glare only there during stray moments when you can't healits aight, the ast or sage will heal everyone to full, just continue to glare boss
how will it handle xiv
>>737633852me
He took the mobile version of ff14 and repackaged it
>guy behind the combat rework is the guy behind the design of Construct 7
Justifying an EVA collab makes you a shit eater and that's bad
>literally nothing do in the game until OC part 2 hits end of JulyI don't know how they expect people to keep a sub, they should make the game B2P and just be more aggresive on the mogstation, I'm not subbing for doing weeklies.
>>737634294you dont need a controllerjust get a keyboard and enjoy limsa
>>737634268Then your damage is fucked.
>>737616242You pay a monthly fee to play a WoW clone that recycles an old franchise and collabs with old games and anime, running on spaghetti code with mid story and walls of text that overexposes everything like the writer is explaining what's happening to a toddler.You're top tier cattle goy.
>>737633852mrs... snrub
>>737634318Its just an extension of the monster hunter collab, trust...Bug in reality it prpbably says something about the theming of the expansion. You can probably compare angels to ice giants, implying they are both aliens.
>>737634360>make healing class>but good party and the braindead savage content dont need healing>whm inherently does less dps with these changes cause whm is inherently for healing!!I guess will never see it in savage, maybe even locked out of PF
>>737634318How does it feel knowing that nothing you say or do will make these shameless cretins feel bad about what they like?
>consider resubbing>old pc has my xiv install when it bricked last year>lost a character preset i had fucked around on and off with for a whilemaybe ill play if theres free gametime in the summer but i think ill wait for now bros
So many Au Ras this expansion.
>>737618156>gay tranny edgelord>chadIf you want to play chad, you play Gunbreaker, Monk or Viper
>>737634437>reality it prpbably says something about the theming of the expansionno, EVA just sell subs >>737634463>free gametimetime isn't free anon, spend precious minutes on a worthwile series!
>>737622058>Marksman>ranged DPS that uses a big slingshot
>>737634508As a xaela enjoyer I'm eating good. Can't believe we get to be mongolians AND true norse vikings.
>>737616242>you have to play the game less>you have to push less buttons to do combatfucking lmao xivtrannies think this is good
>>737633338They are so fucking ugly
>>737634508Crash Bandicoot expansion
>>737634445My advice to you is to stop hanging out with balancetroons.
>>737634318I like Evangelion, it's that simple. I also like Yoko Taro and I also like Keiichi Okabe, and they're doing the new Evangelion animation, so we'll probably get some tie-in to help sell the Yoko Taro Eva stuff and probably some more Keiichi Okabe orchestrion rolls.
>>737634563they innovated bossthe japanese needs more playercount for the shareholder
>>737634449NTA but I bet he feels nothing because the fact is, the world will always be filled with stupid people, such as those that still play FFXIV, it's an unavoidable facet of our reality.
>>737634563>Noooooo I loved running crystal tower every single fucking day
>>737634562>Xaelas are mongolians and vikings>Raen are pacifist cucks and pajeetsKek
Game will still die because they insist on forcing new players to do 10 years worth of MSQ before they get to the MMO part. So whatever they're adding / changing will only benefit players who are caught up already. Those will eventually quit.
>>737634318After Nier raids I am well accustomed to playing through an entire story and not having a single clue what is what about.
He's right you know.
So what do the Japs think about all this new stuff
>>737634318>dragon quest collabIt's so over...>Yokai-watch collabIt's so over...>weird power rangers GARO pvp collabIt's so over... >monster hunter collabIt's so over... >Nier collabIt's so over...>Fallguys collabIt's so over...>Monster hunter collab part 2It's so over...>Eva collabIt's so over... This time for serious!
>>737634792parsing is rude to people how can you tell people they are not doing good damage??
>>737616242Based avalanche of choices last night. I hope the game play is much smoother come January for the decisions being made.
>>737634792did they finally add in-game parse tool/leaderboards?or I dont get the point of the post
>>737634792Whomsvn't?
>mfw I see a Reborn cuck in my party
>>737634926Yoshitpiss is destroying the fflogs community by taking away the raid buff meta we've worked so hard to master.
then what the actual fuck is the point of keeping reborn mode in if evolved is just better overall and gets rid of the 2 minute meta shit
>>737634983I legitimately hope these people leave the game because of this.
>>737634991To prevent a mass suicide event from balancetroons.
>>737616242F2P tourist here. Is the 123 Tanking still in? I dropped the trial because I got bored of pressing 123.
>>737634983About time you fucking rats were burned out.
>>737634983>so hard to masteryou press 1 (one (uno)) button), at a fixed interval this is hard boss?
>>737634792Rest in piss
>>737634991To build a contained hugbox community of parse trannies that we can make fun of.
did they update the gwafics?dont remember it looking this good
>>737635068now you will be bored pressing 1 onlyenjoy
>>737635162They did for 7.0
>>737634832>I eat shit and I don't even care!Yeah I figured as much.
>>737635162SERVER?EB STATUS?
Did they really just put WAR, DRK and GNB into offtank jail for 8.0?
>>737635252Explain your reasoning and I will answer as best I can.
>>737635252Looks like it, yes.
Are they going to have reborn only option for PF?I haven't done all the content yet and want to do it MINE and legit.
>>737635252for high end raids yeah
>>737634991familiarity and likely in part because of the MT/OT distinciton evolved makes.
>>737635252Drk and gnb were already offtanks and theres no jail they are still tank role. The most they might get is splitting fending gear off into an off tank spec and a main tank spec.
>>737635252>I WANT TO BE THE MAIN CHARACTER AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!Just crack your egg and be reborn, little WARsissy. :)
>>7376351627.0 and minor things with the faces since.Armors have slowly been getting updated.
>>737634703>I'M GOING TO LOVE NOT PLAYING THIS GAME!lmao okay
>>737635283it's right there bro
>>737634792PARSE TROONS IN SHAMBLES HAHAHAHA
>>737635252how come?also GNB has a blade, it is best tool to parry no?assuming the parrying is different for each tank classI would assume gunblade would parry the most effective?
>>737616242At the end of the day the problem with XIV will still be a lack of endgame content. Its too casual for WoW players. They don't really share the same space. XIV is more of a Second Life/play new content for a week then drop MMO, WoW has a bit more stuff to do at the endgame.
>>737635252I imagine that the new tank and PLD are getting the counter attacks. WAR, DRK, and GNB already have OT style heals (nascent, TBN, aurora) so I imagine those tanks will keep those. So I'm thinking that PLD and the new tank are going to be MT just because they have counters, and the other tanks are going to be OT just because they have "heals", but it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Like you're probably never going to clear due to counter attack damage unless a bunch of other shit went wrong in the fight.
I love parryingyessssadd parryslop to tanksI love sekiro yahooo!!
>>737635405>Eliminating the 2m meta and unscripting the fights will allow tanks to stun bosses again for the first time since 2.0Paladin-bros, we're coming home.
>>737635383I'm almost out of shit to do on my main character even though I dropped dawntrail, but if the game is fucking fun again I'll replay the whole fucking game on one of my 40 alts. Spamming roulettes just so sprouts can get through old content isn't the same thing as having content to do.
>>737635434XIV is mmo in the way you have a lot of players to chat together!WoW is mmo in the way you have a lot of players to do content with >>737635492>unscripting the fightswhere did you get this? and big mechs will happen at set intervalhonestly I dont know what the fuck you are saying
>>737635405You know, I always crack up at the fact the DRK pixel icon glows red when no one else does.
>>737635352Well, they are mainly offtanks but if you want to run DRK-GNB duo it's just griefing your group in savage content or it's just a nothingburger? I want to know that
>>737635434The sublime ignorance wafting off of you is delicious.
>>737635252if you think war, drk, gnb will be relegated to ot you're in for a surprise. for example OTs will still need to be able to clear DSR and both tanks are effectively MT for the from the end of p5 all the way through p7 using every mit that they have to live. so the evolved OT is going to be able to meet this threshold + apparently have extra raid mit tools which are going to be far more valuable for prog. It is the MTs that should be afraid of being replaced by double OT comps in reality.
>>737635405Okay I just had a thought, if they separate tanks into off tank/main tank then the new tank is gonna be another main one.
>>737623508And guess who Yoshipisspants dragged out to say that he demanded a higher budget out of square?
>>737635592DPS is kingXIV is a braindead game that requires healers to heal as little as possible and the content barely warrants healing tanks can use shit mit and it will still work outjust choose the higher dps lol
>>737635565Its technically a loss of total utility, but it doesn't make content unclearable. If raiders refuse to use a non-perfect-meta party thats on raiders. Theres still two main tanks, if warriors don't want to play pld they can play the new one.
>>737635634ARE YOU JOIN US
>>737635630No shit dummy.
>>737635565It's almost 100% going to just be the damage difference of counters and more around the MTs being shit if they don't get it. Not that the OTs are shit for not having it.They'll still all have a competent overall tanking moveset.
>>737616242>all those blatant memberberries of Heavensward and Shadowbringers in the Evercold trailerThey are so desperate to get the paypiggies to return after Dawnfail it's almost funny.I hope they fail and this mess of a game finally dies, but sadly it won't happen.
I want enfeeblements to become relevant again Also give us more adds in fights. Now that phys ranged is a defined role, let them kite stuff more often And make GCD heals more relevant across all healers, not just WHM
someone tldr me on fanfest
>>737635434>>737635560Really, it comes down to this: The ONLY people who play WoW are homosexual and/or trans. Meanwhile straight men and women play XIV, and unfortunately there are also some homos and trannies who play it.
>>737635704
>>737635674>XIV is a braindead game that requires healers to heal as little as possibleNow you want to heal as much as possible on WHM for your balancetroon parseclitty. You can even get greedy and single target heal raidwides to get as much Holy Sanctuary charge as possible.
>>737635739Good shit and people mad about other people being happy about it.
>>737635739Impossiburu it was full of announcements and minute technical details.
>>737616242>>CLASSES: FULL CLASS FANTASY RPG AND NOT MMO SLOPLiterally not even possible at this point for FF 14. It's the only MMO that has a grand total of 3 classes. There are 0 differences between any sub classes in those 3 classes. Class identity goes against their design policy that everyone is equal.
>>737634832>GAME HAS A LOT OF RANDOM COLLABS, GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
>>737635771>Now you want to heal as much as possiblebeing afk spamming 1 button healing or another 1 button afk spamming damagehmmmI wonder which is more fun!
>>737635571how am I wrong? XIV ONLY has raids at the endgame. And those are great but they're a bit slow to release new ones. WoW have raids, delves/labyrinths, and M+. That's an extra few things to do in WoW. Just M+ alone is hours of content per week if you want to do it. XIV doesn't have anything like that.
>>737635771i miss the arr raid design where you could single heal everything if you were good at the game, that was cool.
>>737635835You gonna be okay, champ?
>people thinking classes will actually be different and unique nowLOL. Get a clue and wise up how modern MMO businesses work. They can give extremely minor changes to each class to give them at least SOMETHING to feel slightly different, but it will never be enough to make them truly unique and it's just different kit of flashy animations, why? META. That's why. When you give classes enough unique identity that they are substantial you start to run into problems where only hyper specific comps are wanted for specific content because THEY WORK BEST AND GET SHIT DONE. That leaves every other cuck job angry and bitching at SE that they aren't allowed to play their jobs in x content because only (ideal party setup) is desired.For oldfags that played 75 era FFXI, think alliance burn divine might with all black mages. If you did not have BLM leveled up you were NOT going to clear divine might, at least not in the ideal BLM burn setup with everyone timing thundaga IIIs. Yes it COULD still be cleared with a normal alliance setup, but the fact was the META was BLM burn and it's how most parties did it. No BLM? get fucked and go suffer trying to put together a normal party (good luck)Modern MMOs literally cannot have this situation on their hands due to how people are these days so all jobs have to be close enough in how they function that jobs will not be excluded from content.
>>737635832???dude, each class has different animations and different skills
>>737634832Fall Guys is the weirdest one here
>>737635865>risky play using your team as fuel for your own damage instead of just healing them up together with an AoE heal is... LE BAD!Balancetroons melt when they encounter job identity.
>>7376356744 OTs for the support group then.
This means that Evolved will finally make mch not garbage, right?
>>737616242I'm so ready
>>7376357391. they're normalizing tomestones to "activity points" and you have two weeks to cap them (current week and past week if you missed)2. you can put makeup on your characters (nobody cares)3. we're going to have action skins (may be good)4. you're getting a different rotation in 8.0 that uses less buttons! (wow it's fucking nothing)5. the new expansion will have new zones and cities9 months to go
>>737634792>we totally did this to help people improve at the game and not to bring our retarded wow culture to ffxivEat shit. All your kind ever did was bot your rotations and brag about it in your discord circlejerks.
>Quit back in 6.1>wanted to give 7.x a try since it's nearing its end>put it on my wishlist a few months ago>find out it was literally on sale less than a month ago (march 12) on steam and i just never got an emailWhen would the next possible sale be you think? Summer sale?
>>737635971ahahhaI'm spamming heals while everyone is full cause the raids are so easywow so fun lol xd
>>737636042>I'm spamming heals while everyone is fullYou don't get Sanctuary charge if the healing target is at full, lil balancetroon.Show me your Criterion clears.
>>737636039Just wait til it's part of the free trial and make a new account
>>737635991The redpill is that MCH has never really been garbage, it's just that for prog statics like to take DNC to make their gear matter more. If you're PFing, you should still pick MCH over DNC.
>Been playing WAR as MT and PLD as OT for all of Dawntrail>Next expansion they decided that now I should do the oppositeWell, fuck you.
>>737636006>you can put makeup on your characters (nobody cares)most important change actually>>737636028>All your kind ever did was bot your rotationslol, thinking parsing 99 is hard, cute
>>737635918>we aren't allowed to play the game because raid trannies are being faggots!>SQenix fucks raid trannies in the ass for the sake of fun job identity
>>737636087B-b-but V&C dungeons aren't mainline content they don't count!!!
>4chan used to be hardcore gamers back in the day>now they unironically play this PEGI 3 game
>>737636137>tranny all lowecase meltdown
Why are generals allowed on /v/ now?
>>737636135LMAOOOOO GET FUCKED NOSHIELD
>>737635918My advice to you is to stop hanging out with balancetroons.The majority of players do not give a shit about meta. They play with their friends and they play what they want. This has been true for every MMO going back to Everquest. Your autistic obsession with MUH META MUH OPTIMIZATION MUH SPEEDTROONING is your own problem.
>>737636135you can do whatever you want, you probably will just miss out on the damage from the parries if you do it that way it's suboptimal. i think this is partially a way to get people to play the new tank though.
>>737635943And they all have the exact same strengths and weaknesses. There is zero difference between any of the jobs within the same role. FFXIV's whole design philosophy is that all jobs are equal in every way.
>>737636279>losing arguments>dooming>starts demanding mods erase their embarrassment It's all going in the archive, sweet cheeks.
>>737634318The Nier crossover brought in a shitload of new players.Evangelion will bring in even more new playersThat simple
>>737635832>>737636345I guess you haven't seen the news.
Interview slop is coming out
doomers are turning rabid and nonsensical
>>737636345they have different weapons and gameplays lolWAR has axeGNB has gunbladePLD has swordlist goes onFF14 is unique, stop dooming
>>737623384she's just a victim of load-bearing shitty writing>idiot tomboy muscle woman>never asserts herself, is never the butt of any good jokes, is never treated like she needs to actually shut up and learn anything, is never shown as genuinely useful for her natural prowess outside of a gameplay segment where (You) have to play as her>is somehow relegated as the problem solver for a place that has infinite non-problems with zero actual friction because her father's ineptitude is not actually addressed by the plot>is supposed to be the relatable character for the doomed android princess who holds all of her punches up to the point she's literally deleted her personality because writing actual conflict with her or zoraal ia would have taken too much effort>somehow has 80% of the dialogue in the expac anywayliterally anyone could have made her more appealing with like 1/3rd the script space
>>737625623>I wish XIV cared about that.The spaghetti code you mentioned is the source of the problem there, the world used to be seamless but the ps3 was shitty and choked and died trying to handle it.So when ARR launched they added the current zones to ease the load, and now HW to DT have zones built for that with a tone of far off vistas that look nice but cannot be incorporated if they did try to go seamless again.
Wake me when you can adjust ass size
>>737636554Yoshida said they're aiming for 8.2 but it's still up in the air. It is coming though.
I have never played an MMO. I always thought XIV looked kinda dumb, and WoW was always hideous, but suffering from others' good fortune when it doesn't effect you is a wild thing to witness.
>>737636462Paladin: Ranged combosWarrior: HealingDRK: Shielding+MP managementGNB: DPS-like rotationDPS is a lot more homogenized than tanks are, they're in the "best" spot as far as role differences go.
>>737636554Other anon wasn't kidding yoshida said he would try for butt sliders.
>>737636447I think the changes in 8.0 are great for people already playing XIV and enjoy that the game is quite casual (mostly) but it won't really attract people who want a better endgame.
>>737634582Unironically why I made an Au Ra. I love the Crash running so much, it's so funny.
>>737636641>niggerspeakFuck you, nigger.
Worth resubbing? Last patch I completed was 7.3 and I have about half of the classes at 100 and the others at 90. All 4 of my tanks are 100 (I'm a tank main) and 2 of my healers I think. Ive been holding off because of insanely long dps ques but the region matchmaking might shorten que times for those. That was my main gripe was I couldn't do dungeon dailies fast enough as a dps. That and dawntrails story was just awful
>>737636631Asses up in the air
>>737636716>it won't really attract people who want a better endgamethe endgame is already greatafk limsa
>>737636279>we're losing this fight, start spamming reports doomxisters!pathetic
Wait. If we can change the animations of different actions, I can make the entire combo Rage of Halone like that one retard webm.
>>737628836>>737628890>The sole programmer/designer that have been almost non-stop winning with every decision made since 2.4God damn, I'm wondering why they didn't start sucking this guy off sooner and giving him more leeway since he has clearly been one of the best on the team for a long ass time. Don't tell me, it's the "budget" again, isn't it?
>SE CEO saying on stage that Yoshida came to the office and DEMANDED a budget increase for the gamekek.
>>737636447It's funny how they desperately grasp at anything, having absolutely no idea what they're even saying.
>>737636795https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-kzAnJyt0A
containment game that has containment general
>>737636462Are you retarded? I haven't even said anything bad about the game. Just mentioning a fact about it.>they have different weaponsyeah but that doesn't really mean anything>and gameplays lolno they fucking don't. the WHOLE POINT of FFXIV is that there are 0 differences between the jobs. They all do the exact same fucking thing. They are not allowed to have unique power differences. If one job is better at a certain aspect than other jobs, its either nerfed or encounters are designed so it doesn't matter. >>737636661It's cute to say but when they all have the exact same EHP and the exact same throughput and the exact same aggro management and the exact same AOE capabilities and the exact same burst resilience and the exact same kiting potential it really doesn't matter that one job you push 1 > 2 > 3 and one job you push 3 > 2 > 1.
>>737636818They explained he started as basically a below minimum wage part time intern because of his lack of experience and he worked his way up the entire square enix ladder to get to now.
>>737636931>no they fucking don't. the WHOLE POINT of FFXIV is that there are 0 differences between the jobs. They all do the exact same fucking thing. They are not allowed to have unique power differences.We have EVOLVED now, balancetroon.
>>737636795OUR 1APM GODLORD DARKNIGGA
>>737636926Know your shame.
>>737636925what is that robot voice?
>>737636984ACT triggers
>>737636931I'm sorry for your loss...
>>737636984MEGABEAMU~
>>737636968These busty little sluts are going to be green soon and I am permanently diamonds at the thought.
>>737636317>>737636162That's just it, retards. There is NO meta and balancetrannies stretch as much as they can to try and make one with the limited uniqueness jobs currently have. If they tried to actually make classes unique enough to be different (like FFXI) you would end up in situations where meta was clearly defined by the mass player base, not a select group of faggots. SE will not allow that to happen for fear of hurting their bottom line so classes will stay as close to the same as possible
They wouldn't put the skill cosmetics behind the store, would they?
>>737637107I laughed at the green hyur until this thought crossed my mind. Goblins are back on the menu
>action skins>dark arts>dark passenger>low blow>plungeIM GONNA CUUUUUM!!!
>>737637158At least some of them are definitely going to be there. Source it cane to me in a dream.
>>737636931>and the exact same kiting potentialNo, Paladin's is way better with the ranged combo. I'm a deep dungeon guy, the tanks play very differently in there.
>>737630640The problem with adding any other type of buff is that MP is useless on every job that isn't a healer (and arguably BLM), action speed is too OP and makes BRD mandatory, other stat increases makes team comp a nightmare and defensives are kind of pointless like you yourself have already pointed out.The best we as players can hope for is that buffs include one of the following:>Direct/indirect healing>Movement speed>Job bar increases>Defensives (yes, even though they are kind of pointless if the devs don't design around them)>Minor DPS increases like "Next Action is a guaranteed crit", "Combo reset" or "Ignore cost on next action(-combo)"13 years of butchered encounter design has more or less led to the point where any stat that directly increases or decreases the effectiveness of the entire team as a whole will just lead to the exact same 2-min meta that we are now moving away from
>>737634318>justifying an EVA collabis there anything to justify?
So why are they hiding the ice zones from the ice expansion?
>>737637413you have no idea what you're talking about
What was SE thinking with the Switch version? No one is going to pay a 2nd sub fee.
>>737637141>That's just it, retards. There is NO metaYes there is. And when every job can only do one thing (like right now) it becomes even more strict because there are no job or fight specific tricks that can incentivize you to switch jobs. As it stands the only thing ANY job can do is just raw damage, and thus there's no reason to take anything but the biggest damage. Even so, people do anyway.Evolved jobs have unique quirks that can interact with fights in unique ways. Maybe, to work with PLD's new Cover dash, there's a boss that aims tankbusters at random party members. So PLD is supposed to intercept. Consider that it aims a tankbuster at the DRG. Well, now the DRG can just jump and eat the attack without bothering the PLD. Now DRG is uniquely good at that fight. But maybe in another fight there's a mechanic that gives a damage down, that NIN is uniquely good at handling with Utsusemi because they avoid the damage entirely. Now NIN is good at that fight, and you have a reason to switch between those two jobs.You stupid secondary faggots seem to forget that this is a Final Fantasy game. Jobs being good at different things is THE ENTIRE POINT OF A CLASS SYSTEM IN ANY RPG. If you want to be optimal, you should actually interact with a central aspect of the series and CHANGE YOUR FUCKING JOB, BALANCETROON.
>>737637528To tickle your pickle.
>>737625396Vanilla WoW was balanced, it's just that no one ever takes into account rdps and gcd prio in the calculationsIt's also very clearly designed around 2-5 player content (which is 90-95% of the game) instead of solo or raiding>>737637535Kill yourself
>>737634563yeah we should have a literal one button mode instead like the best mmo of course
>>737637591>I'm mad.Okay.
>>737634792>erm, mr yoshida piss before developing your game... did you check with this random tranny that shat up the game with his shitty logs site to see if it was ok?Twitterfags need to rope asap
>>737637591delete your post again retard, you still have no idea what you're talking about
>>737637591>Vanilla WoW was balancedThat's bullshit and you know it. Entire specs were completely useless
>>737635835>he posted a sharty imageIt's so over...
>>737637591>vanilla wow was balancedLMAO
>>737637591Damn nigga u dumb.
Soon as this thread reaches page ten I'm going to eat an entire box of cereal and have sex with my wife.
>>737635634Do you think there's anything to what he said or that it's just a full PR ploy with 0 substance?
>>737637591>Vanilla WoW was balanced
>>737635739A good 90% (or near enough) of shit people wanted for years was announced.
>>737637956I think hes realized that most square enix projects are failures with ffxiv being the failing money battery keeping the lights on.
was fun guysgot to see how bad the game still issame for the playerbasesuckers suck forever huh
>>737637591Yeah vanilla wow balanced and was so fucking good, shout out to my boomkin brothers topping those meters and the RetChads keeping it 100. Make no mistake the horde was not carried by warriors but by enhancment shamans
You lost, doomtranny
>>737637956100% PR, but there is substance in "giving fino fantashi fortine foo suppor" based on how many changes they're doing at once.Full combat and reward system overhauls with an additional difficulty and a collab with Eva aren't cheap, and the biggest limiter to 14 has been how little budget they get despite the revenue they bring in.
>>737636420FFXIV only needs a standalone version after the servers go down, at which point his team won't be actively working on the main online FFXIV anymore.>"But then, if that happens, I'm sure FFXIV players would look at that project and go 'Yoshi-P, instead of focusing on some spin-off project, you should work more on th emain actual Final Fantasy XIV game!'" Based and correct.
>>737636554I dunno if it means anything in the grand scheme, but Koji Fox said "so... butt sliders for 8.2?" and then Yoshi-P said "Wakatta wakatta wakatta... I'll try..."I would assume it's a planned stunt and they already had something planned anyway, and they're just being cheeky about it there.
>>737637584Since leveling has also been massively sped up over the years there is no real point in not spending time on leveling multiple jobs anymore (considering that content is also piss easy now). Every player that actually wants to participate in combat content should be encouraged to do exactly that and have at least one job per role at max level at any given time if they REALLY want to minmax, the devs seems to be encouraging this with the changes to gearing. IMO, this also gives players who actually put time into the game a minor boon for actually interacting with the game since they will be looked at more favorably by the community at large since they prove that they care enough to actually put in the time even if the time sink is smallThis also adds a natural barrier vs minmaxing since only the sweatiest of autists are ever going to care enough to actually level every job to max and start picking players solely based on fight specific quirks and most players will just stick to picking the "generally" best job for whatever content they are playing instead of it being dictated by almost microscopic differences in DPS.
>>737636829>Yoshi-P kicked my door down and told me 'hey you dumb retard we need more money to make a better game'.You love to see it.I'm kidding - that's not what he did, but I hope there's a bit of truth to them putting more money into the game and it's not just theatrics.
>>737638163If they fix the engine enough then I guess they don't need to make FFXIV-2 but thats what I would have expected over any other spin-off.
>>737638039Then he has some sense, at least, because it's true.Even 7Remake isn't performing anywhere near what they had hoped.>>737638157I honestly get what you mean there. Going off announcements, there's so much headliner feature stuff there that they had to have put some money into the game for it to even be a consideration.Of course we'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
>>737637158On the one hand, we've thus far had 0 facewear, 0 portraits and 0 adventurer plate elements in the shop.On the other hand, this is absolutely a good avenue for them to add to the shop.
>>737636039Unless your planning on grinding out every job to max then there is literally no point in playing 7.X since everything you might want will just become easier to get in 8.0 and the story is so bad that if the rumored free MSQ skip is true then you might want to save it for 7.X since the story is so dogshit that it makes people quit the game not even halfway through.
>>737638631>the rumored free MSQ skipthat wasn't even mentioned in passing
>>737636447Watching them melt down in real time during the fan fest was really funny.
Q: Can you tell us a bit more about the Dancing Mad ultimate? Why was Kefka chosen and how are you going to make it as interesting as other ultimates that bring different bosses for different phases and kind of tell a story?> I interpret this as two parts to this question, so allow me to address the first part, which is why Kefka was chosen. In terms of just ultimate content, we have a very limited number of developers who have handled such content within our battle encounter team. Because we have a limited number of people who can create ultimate content, they kind of take turns or somebody raises their hand if they want to do the next content. >And the person came up and I asked them, okay, so what is your theme for the ultimate? What do you want to pitch to me? And the person in charge said, “I really want to do Kefka.” So it was that person’s idea. >And, of course, he’s a very big fan of Final Fantasy VI. He also worked on the Kefka fight in the interdimensional rift, both normal and savage mode. He came to me and said, “I can make something better. Let me do Kefka again.” So it’s this almost unnatural love for Kefka that brought this about. Lol, lmao.
