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She did nothing wrong.
The end justifies the means.
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>>737618638
I'm pissed we weren't given the option to romance her
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>>737618638
When you are the source of your own predicament then there are no excuses. Bitch got erased by Pharasma and good riddance.
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Her plan actually made no sense though. She could take her son's soul and put it in a new body and they would be a reincarnation of her son, but for some reason she thought if she did it enough then he would magically just revert to the previous incarnation of that soul and become her son again.

And for this nonsensical plan she killed millions by making a gate to literally Hell which would destroy the world if it wasn't closed. Plus the only way to close the fucking gate was for her or the soul of her son to die. So I guess she was going to suicide if she actually achieved success? Nonsense.

Also, the guys who killed her son were probably evil, but so was her son. Pretty sure he tried to kill the people who killed him with demon power before he was killed. And in retaliation she genocided their entire civilization.

Technically speaking though, if you consider her part in making Nocticula a good goddess of redemption canonical then overall she did net good despite all the evil.
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>>737619412
Addendum: it was all Pharasma's fault though. Pharasma gave Areelu the magic necessary to open that gate even though Pharasma's judgement was explicitly that that knowledge shouldn't exist. So what the fuck was that about?

If Pharasma had just destroyed the knowledge of gating between planes like that when the Storyteller almost destroyed everything then none of this shit would've happened. Which I guess is probably what the Aeon does.
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You are fucking dumb bitch like her, there is no way to justify tearing barrier between dimension. Demons and devil place are in their shithole.
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Aeon is pure kino. Shame we will never get another Owlcat pathfinder game.
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>>737618638
I DEMAND GUNS IN KINGMAKER
LET FREEDOM RRIIIIIINNNNGGG
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>>737619412
>Also, the guys who killed her son were probably evil
If you actually watch the cutscene where he dies you'll see that they were going to do what they do with every magician, send him to prison. They only killed him because the "innocent child" attacked first and killed one of them
Someone mentioned once that Areelu is like a black single mother and they were on point
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>>737618949
she should have had a secret romance route like nyrissa in kingmaker
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>>737619924
>Shame we will never get another Owlcat pathfinder game.

Why? They already said they want to make a remake of Kingmaker down the line, as well as new titles.

They've been working on the setting for 10+ years, anon.
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>>737618949
This, but Owlcat drops the ball in that regard on several occasions. Even the Nocticula romance is half-assed and doesn't even come close to the Nyrissa romance. Can't even ascend with her. It should at least be an option for the Trickster and Azata instead of just Demon. Being a divine azata and sharing a realm, or having a playful relationship as a trickster god.
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>>737618638
I sympathize with her, that's why I spared her after ruining every single plan she had
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>>737620464
Don't give me hope for Jade Regent Anon.
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>>737620464
>Why? They already said they want to make a remake of Kingmaker down the line, as well as new titles.
They literally never said that outside of the typical PR speak of "yes we love Pathfinder and we're open for it in the future, but nothing right now"
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>>737618638
I do not pass judgement, I aid those in danger and help those in need.
Whether mom was right or wrong does not concern me, for what good would come of that judgement?
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>>737620819
>leaves Minagho go for quite literally no reason at all
Garbage ass path
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>>737620884
Vengeance is weakness, forgiveness is strength.
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>>737620884
I like that the game allows you to make stupid decisions.

>>737618638
The biggest irony is that Areelu is a nemesis not to an Angel or Azata, but an Aeon - extreme selfishness vs. extreme selflessness.
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>>737620959
Areelu's nemesis is the path specifically made to piss her off as much as possible, legend.
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>>737620819
I fucking love Azata man.
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>>737620958
>forgiveness
Forgiving what? You don't, you're just letting her get away for no reason while she's still evil, for all you know she and her girlfriend are both killing people for fun together
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>>737618638
Well her "ends" were to bring back her demon summoning son who was evil enough to be immediately judged and sent to the Abyss, so I'd say no.
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>>737620995
No, her Nemesis is the path specifically undoing everything she ever accomplished before she ever accomplished it, without her even knowing how.
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>>737620884
Baphomet drains all her power afterwards anyway. She is nothing but a cock socket if you let her go.
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>>737621123
I get that you like aeon but no, not at all. Legend is the past that pisses her off the most specifically because she's forced to live the rest of her life being well aware that she failed miserably at everything she ever tried to do.
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>>737620958
And what did Minagho do to actually earn any sort of forgiveness? Did she make some kind of amends? Did she aid the fight against her former masters? Did she show any kind of genuine remorse for her actions?

Oh she didn't? At all? Well then I judge thee too retarded to handle any kind of power or authority. People like you are why nobody respects Azata.
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>>737621151
>Baphomet drains all her power afterwards anyway
Source? The seal weakens her, it doesn't drain all her powers. A weakened demon is still a demon.
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Sarkoris was a shithole full of retards, Areelu did everyone a favour by wiping it out
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>>737621053
She declared herself as an enemy of Baphomet and tired of mortal business.
And her lover abandoned her life's work just to be with her.
That's two souls saved.

How can you call yourself a hero if you chose bloodshed over spreading happiness?
A kindness given to a friend is not an act of charity, as they would extend you the same kindness. But a kindness shown to an enemy, that is a true act of charity.
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>>737621223
>People like you are why nobody respects Azata
That, and the retarded friendship is magic storyline, and the reddit dragon, and the gay fairy wings
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>>737620819
Reddit cuck: the path. Should be chaotic evil coded.
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>>737621278
>full of retards
Herself included, she should kys
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do Aasimar in Cheliax get treated the same way Tieflings do in say, Mendev
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>>737621223
>what did Minagho do to actually earn any sort of forgiveness?
If forgiveness was earned, then it would not be forgiveness, it would be a transaction of morality.
For someone to redeem themselves, they require the chance to be able to do so.

If judgement is cast, then there is no chance for redemption, just an endless cycle of bloodshed. The choice to forgive is not easy, nor is always wise. But surely it is the righteous path.
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>>737621498
Let me guess, Wendubro?
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>>737621282
A real hero punished those who deserve punishment and there are few who deserve it more than her. She doesn't deserve happiness after all the misery she caused and will doubtlessly continue to cause.
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>>737621534
Consider Nocticula, an evil so great it is unimaginable.
The death and suffering she has sown through the ages are uncountable, in comparison to which the actions in Minagho is a drop in the ocean.

Yet we are able to extend her the chance to redeem herself as well, though she has not payed for her crimes, all her evil unavenged.
An through this act of forgiveness, a new goddess is born, one that is a force of good in the universe, saving lives and spreading joy.

If we had avenged Nocticulas evil ,who would have benefited?
Her past actions would not have been undone. The world would not have been made better.
But through forgiveness the universe became a much brighter place.
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>>737621349
>Reddit cuck: the path.
The only thing more vindictive than a /pol/ poster is a reddit user. The same losers that go out of their way to ruin each others lives would not choose the path of forgiveness.
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Why is this guy larping so hard at muh redemption when the redemption path is GD?
I don't see him giving redemption to all the flesh markets slavers
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>>737621816
>the path of forgiveness
That's gold dragon. Cringezata is a "demon lives matter" cuck path.
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It's funny because the very first thing GD does is let a bunch of demons run away for no reason at all, he doesn't try to redeem her or anything, just lets them escape. Just like Azata.
All the good paths in this game fucking suck outside of angel.
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>>737621886
Man launch GD was so fucking ass
Having to paranoid make saves every hour or so of gameplay for fear of a progression stopping bug or a core mechanic suddenly turning off, never to turn on again, and I get all the way to Areelu and I just forgive her out of her plan and she goes along with it

Meanwhile skeleton dragon tits and the literal dragon messiah are both never mentioned again
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>>737621886
>>737621946
Gold Dragon puts emphasis on redemption, while Azata puts emphasis on forgiveness, or rather, not passing judgement.
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GD is worse than Azata.
Killing Hal is a morally correct thing to do.
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If someone murdered a cuckzata's entire family and raped their corpses he wouldn't pursue revenge because it would "accomplish nothing" and the killer might turn his life around and become good, ostensibly.
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>>737621740
Her "redemption" happens without your involvement. And her motivation for it isn't some genuine remorse and desire to do good but because Abyss got too stale for her. But unlike her Minagho doesn't even have that. She isn't a goddess who can change an alignment on a whim, she's still a CE demon and will continue doing demon things in between slamming clams with Chivarro.
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Minagho and Chivarro fuck off to a distant realm and make lesbian OF content for the rest of time
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>>737622216
Would killing the murderer bring back the dead family? No?
Then what would be the point?

Yet if the killer were to try again, hurt other people, then the Azata would of course do anything in their power to help those in danger.
But if it was done for revenge, then that would not be a righteous act, if would be a selfish of self-appeasement.
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>>737622016
that shit was so fucking stupid it made me decide not to take that mythic path
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>>737622482
The killer doesn't get to draw breath and enjoy life when he deprived others of that gift. Understanding that requires you to have a non-cuck mindset, which is antithetical to azata.
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>>737618949
Anon, she's your mom.
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>>737622681
...out of 10!
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>>737622618
>The killer doesn't get to draw breath and enjoy life when he deprived others of that gift
I agree that azata sucks but let me ask this, did you kill Regill?
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>>737622754
Of course not. Regill did nothing wrong. Id you're refering to the wounded soldiers he killed they would've been taken by the gargoyles and turned into ghouls, so it was the right call.
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>>737622836
Kek
Every time, the justice larper reveals his true colors, just a lawtard
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>>737622618
Forgiveness is not easy. Not all can be righteous, so many fall down the path of vengeance. Consumed by self desires.
Yet they too deserve forgiveness, for one day they may see the light of good and become a protector of all and not just of those they deem "deserving".

One day, you may find the strength inside of yourself and resist the temptations of your base instincts.
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>>737618638
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How is the Devil path now?
I played the game a couple of yeas ago and the only way to unlock the Devil path was to play Azata or Aeon first.
The thing is, Azata is fucking cringe and there's no way in hell it'd make sense to go from Chaotic good to lawful evil.
Aeon was a nice path and I didn't want to give it up.
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I fucking hate the spaceshit games they're doing. Turned off rogue trader after like 2 hours, total garbage.
Will not touch anything by owlcat until they return to pathfinder or similar magic&sword games
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Weehoo *turns you into a chair*
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Ranger is the coolest class. Don't @ me.
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>>737622681
And that's based.
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>>737623146
Anon, they're working on the next Mass Effect...
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>>737623203
>step
gay reddit shit
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>>737623175
>@Counter point
Eldritch Archer
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>>737623175
Ranger is a dip for the hippogriff.
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>>737623175
True, but only the Sable Company Marine.
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>>737621250
The ending slides on azata basically says she dissapears off with her lesbian lover and doesn't really get up to demon mischief anymore.
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>>737623261
mass effect is a shit series
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>>737623354
All it says is that she and Chivarro met again and never separated, that's all
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>turn a man into a woman and sell him to the brothel to be raped
>inheritor approves
>fight in the arena (killing nothing but demons and one fey)
>inheritor dissaproves
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>>737623579
I thought the Hand only approves if you say you liked fighting for the crowd
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Desna and I will work to redeem all of the succubus in the abyss saar
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>>737622883
Justice and law go hand in hand. I'll take a LE chad who can make tough, but neccessary decisions like Regill in charge over the do-gooder scum and patron of murderers like the azata larper any day.
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>>737622681
No she isn't. You didn't play the game.
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>>737623725
I'm sure your lawful evil gnome daddy that serves in a lawful evil country has never, in his entire life, killed a single innocent person. Never ever, sure.
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do you get any dialogue if the player is an Elf and likely older than Areelu
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>>737623902
You find out that she kidnapped you while you were an adult instead of a child
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>>737623782
lawtards in cheliax is just ritualistic chicken swinging that is supposed to indulge their own deepest vices, they dont know a damn thing about law or justice. The best argument i can give for regill fags is that, being a gnome and incredibly whimsical and autistic by nature, its just this side of plausible that he was sent to the world wound to die because he was being too lawtistic in the hedonistic incubatory shithole that is the country of actual unironic satan worshipers.
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>>737623926
I laughed when Areelu tells you that she's been watching you before you were born. I just imagine her at one of the commander's birthday parties disguised as a drunk aunt.
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>>737623975
>tranny headcanon
kek imagine being this mindbroken by lawchads
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>>737624117
>umm its just your headcanon
ask me how I know you did not ever run a paizo AP in your life.
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Trickster is best for a shatter defences build, right?
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>>737623782
Not in a situation where it wasn't justified to prevent an even bigger calamity he didn't. The wounded soldiers he killed were innocent in fact, but not killing them would've been a net negative.
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>>737618638
her plan was absolutely fucking retarded
>spend decades or centuries scrapping together what's left of the soul of your kid
>put it into a random body
>drop it (wounded and weakened) right as the demonic invasion is about to start
>it (barely) survived? Good, I guess I give a tiny bit of powers then
amazing
what if PC did not survive and the grafted soul goes back to Pharasma? What then you smartass bitch?
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>>737624205
Regillfags are genuinely waifufag tier of delusional, it's quite impressive.
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>>737624282
Not an argument.
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>>737624243
Wasn't the soul of her child trapped in the nahyndrian crystal? If you die she just retrieves it and starts over.
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>>737624340
What argument do you want me to come up with? You're genuinely delusional if you don't think Regill has, say, killed a runaway slave.
Ah no but wait, they were made slaves because they were criminals and they deserved so it doesn't count, yes yes I know how it works.
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>>737624243
It's pretty heavily implied she was always shadowing you, just in case you needed help, but she wanted to see how much of her son/daughter was emerging without intervening.
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New Pathfinder game without the annoying buff system when?
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>>737624437
>You're genuinely delusional if you don't think Regill *did that hypothetical thing that I made up*
lmao ok
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>the guy who wants to grab a bunch of untrained civilians and send them war as cannon fodder would never ever kill an innocent, trust me
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>>737624613
I enjoy the buffing personally.
With Buffbot of course
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>>737624486
Yeah there a multiple flashbacks showing her watching over you at basically every step.
Areelu is a good mom.
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>>737624956
>the so called good mom that allowed her son to get killed because she couldn't teach him how to be a proper criminal
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>>737624987
Being a single mother isn't easy.
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>>737622885
Its you who is self desired, victims cry ask for vengence and vengence will be served
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>>737626634
I agree, death to the Hellknights. Death to Cheliax.
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>>737623143
Its still this way, but i think it fit this disgusting mythic class
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>>737626692
When hellknights killed innocent humans?
If you mean this wounded soldiers that would die anyway it was act of mercy, demons are not knew to fast kill victims
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It felt like a waste you can't corrupt this bitch in the evil paths, it was the perfect setup for it.
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>>737627146
Lucky you, the romance mod basically turns Targona into a flesh golem you can modify and mold into whatever you like
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>>737620464
>remake of Kingmaker
They did not and they won't. They are done with paizo.
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>>737627317
>They are done with paizo.
Source?
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>>737627317
What happened between them and Paizo?
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>>737628334
Nothing, he's talking out of his ass. There's no indication they're done with Pathfinder games.
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>>737628231
qa on their website that they released a while back
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>>737628334
Nothing, it's just that their core business model is brand leveraging. Pf is too niche for them, they aim for bg4.
>>737628231
What's your source that they are working or planning on working on kmr?
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>>737618638
I wonder what went through her mind when her son came back as a swarm of locusts
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>>737628381
Except them going for bigger brands. Wishful thinking on your side. Skill issue, I'm afraid.
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>>737628446
Post it.
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sex with Ember
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umop
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>>737633668
you literally already have a thread up retard
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>>737623725
>wanton cruelty for the lulz
>necessary
Kek. Lawful Evil is the definition of hypocrisy because a functional societal cannot simultaneously support malicious entropy for the sake of it. The law becomes debased and is used as an excuse to carry out evil contrary to its function. If you must abide by the law then evil becomes counter-productive, and if you must be evil then what use is the law in itself? The law is just a tool for power at that point and has no value in itself. Lawful Goodness is the only true application of Law; Laws that are not founded on good intentions for the benefit of all under them, to be applied universally are not laws but rather the whims of selfish desire.



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