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If you were not a PLD main before we were revealed to be the main characters of the entire game don't bother switching up now.
Keep your offtank role and watch us PLDchads fight the bosses
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Jokes on you, I main all classes.
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PALATANK CHADS WON
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>"Switch the 'Cold' to 'Frost', sounds cleaner"
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>>737619885
>>737620409
>implying the new tank will not be a broken meta
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EVERY STEEEEEP WE TAAAAKE
ECHOES IN OUR WAAAAKE
ROUNDING ROUND OUR FATE
FORGE AHEAAAAD!!!!
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male race tier list

>normal tier
male highlander
male midlander
male elezen
male roe

>autistic tier
male au'ra

>furry tier
male hrothgar

>incel tier
male lalafell
male viera
male miqo'te
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What dates the EU fanfest?
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>>737620984
Male roe is in incel tier but I agree with the rest.
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Tell me about the new DPS
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>>737619885
Fuck, they are already the best tank in the game right now.
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>>737620984
>>god tier
>face 4 male roe
>
>male race tier list
>
>>normal tier
>male highlander
>male midlander
>male elezen
>male roe
>
>>autistic tier
>male au'ra
>
>>furry tier
>male hrothgar
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>>incel tier
>male lalafell
>male viera
>male miqo'te
Here is the correct one.

>>737621009
July 25-26, iirc
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>switch 2 announcement
>Suddenly threads are allowed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>737621028
I'm nooticing
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>Saves your game
What do we say to Mr.Prime?
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>>737620984
>male lalafell
>"Oh my god! just let people enjoy things, duuude!"
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>>737621028
I saw this too, ninbabies are so pathetic,
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>>737621009
https://fanfest.finalfantasyxiv.com/

July 25, 2026
July 26, 2026

October 31, 2026
November 1, 2026
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Predicting Wol will do enshroud then super enshroud in the full trailer.
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>>737620984
hrothbvll fucked your eb
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>unnatural skin colours
I’m okay with hair colours but skin is going to just look stupid.
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COLDBRINGERS WON BIGLY

WOKETRAIL LOST BIGLY
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>>737621027
>male lalafell
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>>737621028
are you new here? ever since 2.0 released, every time a new expansions is up the board is flooded with ff threads
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>hyping yourselves this much over the new mechanics
The disappointment will only hurt more.
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>>737621086
Does he codes thing? or is he the "ideas guy" but in a real way?
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>>737621086
"Don't fuck up Scholar like your predecessor, Hikaru."
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>>737621249
Both.
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Asukabros we get to cuck both Shinji and Kensuke and have a kraut hebewife
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>>737621206
What's surprising to me about Jesse Cox, he now weights less and can move more than most people who post in these threads.
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>Zero thinks she's free from being Zenos's avatar
>WoL job swaps to RPR
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I haven't paid attention to this game in years, does every class still feel the same to play?
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>nobody likes nier alliance raid
>nobody will like evangelion alliance raid

Man, why the Shadowbringers expansions have shitty alliance raids instead of interesting alliance raids that expand the lore upon that reflection
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>>737621086
>one pvp fag on dev team that actualy plays the game
>put in charge of class design
>puts pld as main tank
>puts every other tank in the cuck shed
>the game is instantly saved and celebrated

imagine if everyone esle on the team actualy played the game
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Will they reveal who is writing expansion this time or will they hide it, so it doesn't end up like with DT?
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Unpopular opinion:

Reaper in 6.0 was one of the most sovlful Jobs post-Shadowbringers, but it was completely destroyed by the 2 minute meta.

Considering it's one Mr.Prime's children, I'm sure Evolved Reaper will bring it to greater heights.
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>>737621202
"Become what you must...become...the warrior of fire."
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>>737619885
I'm not a paladin main but paladin is my main tank, am I allowed in?
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>>737621453
Begrudgingly.
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>>737619885
>Implying OTs won't figure out main tanking regardless.
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>>737621421
"Shadowbringers was a huge success, you're absolutley right! and honestly? Switching light to ice is a genius move! This sure to bring your player count back, you've got this!"
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Paladin and the new job will be "main" tanks only because it's better for their DPS, every tank job will be able to tank.
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>>737621523
"Surely you will get the karkand".
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>>737621019
It's physical ranged, we know nothing beyond that, unless the tease of one of the new classes having some relation to Rhitahtyn sas Arvina was actually about the new DPS instead of the new tank,
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>>737621409
yes.
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>>737621086
Why are we calling him mr prime? was that the name of the mentioned magazine?
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>>737620409
the new class will be main tank too
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>>737621421
It's Tetsuya Nomura
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>the job identity expansion
>look inside
>more simplification and homogenization
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>>737621198
Yeah i'm pretty worried, I really never shared any of the concerns about cross job/role glam but skin is easily a step too far
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>>737621028
Really makes you think.
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>>737621608
Someone suggested it live on stage after Yoshida said he should have a nickname like Mr.Ozma, he's called Mr.Prime because he's the mind behind Construct 7 in Ridorana.
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>>737621409
they just a few hours ago showed off some of what they are doing to fix this
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>>737621409
Would you believe me if I said they're actually fixing this next expansion?
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heh
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>trailer
Kino
>setting
beyond Kino
>Evolved mode
really cool
>2min meta dead
THANK GOD
>Eva raid
great another obvious ad raid that will suck like Nier
>customization update
all good

overall 8.0 is looking great with a shit alliance raid
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>>737621674
Ah cool
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I wonder how Kate's coping knowing her magnum opus was a complete disaster that got her fired.
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>>737621834
I got this
who the fuck needs third party storage for something that needs to stay cold, surely anybody that needs that needs it for a business and would be better off putting it on premise
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>>737621423
My predictions for RPR:
>Death's Design removed
>Gluttony removed
>Arcane Circle removed
>Harvest Moon removed
>Plentiful Harvest becomes a Perfectio followup
>Soul Reaver stacks are now gained automatically on a timer
>Unveiled Gibbet/Gallows are now oGCD followups to Gibbet/Gallows
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does wow do the ilv scaling across characters already? they might copy this if not
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>>737621923
Is Kate actually fired?
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>>737621225
learned helplessness
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>>737622045
nobody knows
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>Only scions shown in the trailer are the HW bros
Feels good
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Parsefags are on suicide watch now that they're killing the 2min meta
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>>737621967
No, the only thing that's shared is some reps but not all and transmogs. They sometimes release catch up mechanics for alts but for the most part you pick one spec and stick with it.
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returning wow player here who forgot everything about xiv

how should I experience the base game and each expac? follow the story and reach the base/expac level cap for all available classes before moving to the next game? what about the raids?
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i loved the nier raids and i am excited for the evangelion raids.
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>>737622142
Just play the game linearly mate. Do each raid tier as you unlock it when you finish an expansion's MSQ.
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>>737621202
ONE BRINGS THE COLD
ONE BRINGS THE WARMTH
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>>737622149
I'm still satly we did not got a Commander glam from that raid, I wonder if they will give us a plugsuit at least.
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>Game has tank counterattacks like shield swipe or reprisal
>No we don't want to encourage players to take damage so that's going away except in the one specific instance of DRK where that is the only ability they have really
>Also counterattacks are back, but DRK shouldn't be doing them
>Also we just took away positionals really recently to make parsers happy but you can have those back too
>Fuck it, we'll even throw in support bard too
Why is so much "evolved" shit just giving us back what they already took from us? It's more blatant than when they took away Dark Passenger for like 1 patch cycle and then gave it right back as Shadowbringer but later in level so you can't use it in fights you previously could
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>>737621628
They have to rework 21 jobs in one expansion, no shit they're going to be simple
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>>737622045
probably not but she probably don't want to make apperances because of shit heads that could not stop talking about her
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>>737622306
>VPR launches in 7.0 not tied to 2 minute bursts
>Change it next patch to conform to 2 minute
>2 minute meta going away right after
Really makes you thinking emoji
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DT made me fully switch from DRG to GNB. Can Evercold reverse that?
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>>737622358
Made for Elezen men.
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You should learn and play in Evolved mode quickly, Reborn mode is basically being phased out in future expansions

Evolved mode will be the default and only mode
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>>737622404
2minute really was a fucking cancer on the game wasn't it?
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>>737622412
DRG is one of the few jobs we actually know about
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>>737622404
they did say that changes in DT were just there to adjust to DT, its very possible that they'll revert changes for VPR now that 2min is dead
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>>737620409
>>737619885
So they're letting TNK roles do DPS now, or act as some form of a psuedo-tank? That's kinda cool. I hate tanking, but like PLD, so it's neat they're finally doing something like that.
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>>737622464
I'll probably quit and go play single player games at that point. I hope people enjoy what they get.
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>He plays reborn mode
ohnonononono
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>>737622464
I would if I could now.
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Imagine if Dark Knight Evolved has PvP Flood of Shadows in PvE, and it's a no-cooldown huge potency weaponskill that deletes like 20% of your HP every time you use it.

You just know retards would kill themselves constantly by spamming it
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>>737621202
So, this is the name of the next expansion? Eh, it's not popping like the other names.
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>>737622535
no they're still tanks, they just get officially assigned the offtank role meaning they're not as focused on main tanking like main tanks, ultimately its probably not gonna matter, its just to let tanks breath and get a bit more identity
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>>737620825
Don't forget to thank him for breaking the wheel when he shows up in 7.5
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gna_PhhjPlI

So Evercold is Heavensward + Shadowbringers?
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Is the Primals concert paid?
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>>737622464
I was already hurt when they changed BLM.
any change they make now is fine by me.
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>>737622574
>only kids
more like only old men play in Reborn mode, anyone new is gonna pick Evolved
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>>737622306
DRG's positionals are a total nothingburger too since not only do jumps give you true north you don't have to hit the positionals with any specific timing, you can just press them whenever since they're standalone weaponskills on a charge system so there is no urgency to position yourself correctly, you just press it when you have the opportunity
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>>737622464
>quickly
>expansions last for 2 to 3 years
Okay
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The trailer song isn't grating my ears so that's a step up from Dawntrail at least. It's not the full song yet, so it might get ruined after it's fully revealed.
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I mustn't run away
I MUSTN'T RUN AWAY
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>>737622540
lol
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>>737622589
>say HEALERS ADJUST
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>>737622671
Unless snow = heavensward I don't see much similarity
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>>737622464
In hindsight it was very obvious when they introduced Viper that that is what the job 'rework' direction was going in and not something people had in more for more complex rotations or a more fun system.
I already mastered Viper and played it through Savage so it's no problem for me.
What's there to master? It's a far easier, more simple system. Just hit the training dummy.
Also fuck every single person who is seething about positionals.
I fucking hate you.
I fucking hate you so much.
Positionals are not mandatory but they're a risk and reward system for putting yourself out there being able to push more damage. It doesn't mean you HAVE to do positionals but if you do, then you get rewarded with more DPS.
I liked the system, people are too lazy and just want to stand still and fight their rotation and goon.
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What fucking jobs are left to add? I feel like the game has something for everyone at this point.
What jobs would you want to see? I'm just curious.
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>>737622750
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>>737621628
If you look at any MMO under a microscope its just people pressing buttons. But theres big changes. Now were getting timing counter attacks with maintanks, dodge and shoot with bard jump attacks, and a dragoon that can jump up into the sky for a 90% damage reduc and huge attack.
The death of the 2 minute meta now also means they dont design around it anymore, and theyre getting rid of synergy actions forcing into the 2 minute meta. This is literally the biggest move away from homogenization ever.
Actually look into changes before you post on something you obviously know nothing about. You'll look less stupid next time.
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>>737622480
It was a symptom, not the root cause. The game had 60, 90, and 120 second jobs and you would be slightly rewarded for synergizing them, but every bit of content was clearable without doing so. Also bosses used to adjust their behaviors based on their remaining HP and not just the fight timeline which meant your big burst could be delayed or interrupted fairly dynamically since every party was going to have different DPS and therefore a different fight timeline so even a party of 2 minute jobs wouldn't necessarily be doing a big full burst every 2 minutes. The shift to fight timelines and later to only 2 minute jobs happened to make the 2% of people that care about fflogs happy. It's not unlike the removal of "useless" buttons like tank stance swapping since in a proper coordinated raid party you wouldn't be swapping, ignoring the fact that many people PF with retards and dynamically reacting to them was part of the fun. Coupled great with healer stances since when the healer would fuck up by greeding some DPS the tank could focus survivability.
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>>737622791
Blitzball
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>>737622837
It will be good as long as they don't go autistic about balance otherwise we will never have anything interesting.
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>>737621345
Hey Jesse, gonna give one of your pissant ironic anime takes and pretend normalfag media is better again?
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Granny gonna be Y'shtola reflection, right?
Could be literally just a timeskip version of Y'shtola, but with how she talks, talking of the Fourth as her home, its more likely she's from there.
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>>737621028
Surely it's merely a coincidence.
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>>737622935
>Granny gonna be Y'shtola reflection, right?
no
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>>737621028
shit it's true
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>>737621345
dude just worked out, when you hit your 30s and is overweight you really start to feel it and feel you want to do something about it
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>Evolved GNB will have continuation every GCD and even your defensives will have continuation
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I'm now convinced, whoever wrote up Wuk Lamat laid a carefully devastating plan to renew the game. The character completely killed the game to the point that the next expansion is copying the most popular expansion and directly addressing most of the issues people had problem with.

Think about it, they created a character which unified an entire community to hate it. Wuk Lamat is the equivalent of Zero Requiem
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>>737619885
But my new year's fortune told me to switch jobs.
And also that my house was being robbed.
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>>737622909
Thats definitely a caveat. They have the groundwork for something really interesting right now, and I'm all for spicing it up. But if they run it into the ground itll be for nothing. But the fact that theyre willing to make this change at all is telling that at least theyre going to try. And thats at least got me hope pilled.
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>he doesn't play chadroe
What in the HECK are you doing?
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When will MNK get simian thrash back?
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>>737622791
I'd love to see more edgy jobs such as necromancer or warlock.
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>>737623043
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>>737622935
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Matoya_(Final_Fantasy)

Granny is Matoya until proven otherwise, the game is a love letter to older classic FFs
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>>737623073
Because I'm playing as the posterboy. You are all NPCs to me
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>>737621819
Nyo
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>>737623112
then why is she a cat, and why keep her face so hidden, as in totally not referencing Shadowniggers?
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>>737621028
If it's not on the switch, it shouldn't be allowed to exist!
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Is that a new job at the end of the trailer? Because it looks like Reaper? Or is that just the job that the WOL is using in the trailer? We're getting a new tank and physical-ranged base DPS class? I wonder what it could be? They said it's an original creation, so it is unique to FFXIV and not FF as a whole. I feel like it's going to be something weird, like some weird weapon that you wouldn't think to combine/use.

I hate tanking, but I hope the DPS class is fun at least. It's not magic-based, so that narrows it down.

>>737623087
Welp...keep waiting. You're getting PHY based stuff and you are going to like it.
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DT was not kind to my FC
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My biggest wonder right now is changes to the gear, how ilvl is now shared across jobs, does this now mean we only farm the highest gear per slot? Meaning different sets are more of a cosmetic thing? And how will Materia melding be affected as well? Maybe change materia per job instead?
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The road that we walk
Is lost in the cold
Here proud colossi bathe in
Their wages of frost
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>>737622142
in order, it's the only thing the game really supports unless you pay extra for a story skip, although it's highly likely the upcoming expansion will add an alternate start point, it was already weird that the last expansion wasn't that
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>>737622240
unlike Commander who is a nothing character, all key characters in eva wear plugsuits.
But theres 3 raids with 7 roles to make gear for, the question is WHEN will we get plugs and wtf will they do with gear after they run out?
Obviously everyone likes Misato's classic cross-necklace, halfcoat with minidress and beret. I assume Gendo and a bridge bunny white fit.
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>>737620697
>>737621612
>Paladin gets Shield Swipe and wants to be the MT
>gets powercrept by the newly released tank and nobody wants them for Savage
this really is Heavensward 2
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>>737622661
Isn't he like dead dead?
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>>737622791
None, we don't need more jobs
>>737623087
this could be cool though
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>>737623331
"New to FF14" doesn't mean much desu. RPR is "original" but also so much of it is literally just FF11 DRK since 14 DRK was just edgy Runefencer from 11. So the name will be new but the meat of it could be anywhere between like 5 and 100% new.
>>737623375
Yoshi literally expressly said that it works like regular level sync, including not counting materia and that to truly minmax you need to farm the gear for every job, this is just to help you fill for parties when your main role is already full.
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>>737623530
I'm guessing 1 round of plugsuits, 1 round of "assorted" gear aka that, Gendo, maybe some of the school outfits, and 1 round of gear that's meant to emulate the evangelions
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Are the panels today worth it or nah?
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>>737623043
If unity of hate was what they wanted they wouldn't have had a tranny voice her leading to a bunch of blind defense
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>>737623581
>We don't need more jobs

Evercold is getting a new tank and physical ranged DPS, so you're getting more jobs and you are going to like it.
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>>737623612
koji one might be fun
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>>737623536
no? He and Zero are working together to try and unfuck the 13th at the end of 6.5
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>>737623004
He took Ozempic. It's the new designer drug every fatty in the U.S. is taking. It's $300 a month and if you're a fat fuck it's absolutely worth it.
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>>737623090
Now FFXIV can continue to live, for 10 years at least
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>>737623536
The original Golbez died during the Contramemoria. His friend Durante had to put him down. After his death, Durante put on his armor and took on his name in order to continue his legacy. Durante is the true name of the Golbez we dealt with during EW, and the last time we saw him, he left with Zero to try and "fix" the thirteenth.
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>>737622131
stop, the expansion already got me excited
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>>737623652
>>737623684
Ah right I totally forgot
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>>737621086
But if he's at Square Enix since 2013 isn't he also responsible for the shit decisions for class skills and balance we had in prior expansions until now?
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>>737622935
I hate this thing they do where the shards have the same physical appearance as their source counterpart. Both souls have undergone countless reincarnations as hundreds of different people from different races. It makes no sense that they would look exactly alike.
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>>737623609
>maybe some of the school outfits
Nah, censors HATE school uniforms, it's not happening, especially after they already have eyes on them over the new CERO rating over upskirts
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>>737623581
>None, we don't need more jobs
True, but SE and MMOs in general learned back in 2006 that the idea of a new expac without new jobs upsets players who feel like they are getting less content for their money even if you add a billion activities and areas. They literally said every new expac will have jobs for the rest of forever and that if they can't add jobs they will use a different model like "add-ons"
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>>737621415
>straight up lie
>things that aren't true

Great post
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>>737623639
>you are going to like it.
I won't, there is NOWHERE left to go with physical ranged, whatever they are about to give us is going to be lame, crossbows when we already have both guns and bows would be lame, slings would be lame, slingshots would be lame, blitzball would be extra lame
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ONE
MORE
TIME
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>>737623781
>anything with a skirt is going to have modesty spats from now on
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>>737623832
>blitzball would be extra lame
Massive faggot.
>slings would be lame, slingshots would be lame
That's what we're getting.
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>>737623609
> fending gear gets unit-00 because Rei has to "tank" several explosions and otherwise damaging angel attacks
> maiming is unit-01 because Reaper is the mc job of the expac and unit-01 "maims" several angels everytime she goes berserk
> unit-02 is scouting because like a scout Asuka usually jumps into the fray first
> unit-06 is healing because kaworu is the only person who ever expresses their love for shinji and this "heals" shinji in eoe when Giant Naked Kaworu is the only thing that brings Shinji any relief in that nightmare
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People are gonna waifu the fuck out of Halmarut and then act incredulous and sad when she inevitably betrays us like all Shadowniggers.
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>>737623885
we had job universal glams for months now, doesn't matter
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>>737623851
They already got the hit I don't think they will go that far, but still yeah school uniforms are not happening, at most you will get stuff based on military uniforms that school uniforms are descended from, but even then probably not jap ones given how much that stuff makes koreans cry
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>>737623832
You just need to use your IMAGINAAAATIONNNNN. It'll be unique and creative, so something off the walls maybe. People are speculating the tank class is some "gun-shield" job, but I don't know what it would actually be called? Sentinel or some shit. I have no idea what the physical ranged DPS could be. Gunslinger? Like dual revolvers with trickshots? Or some kind of gun-based class, but it would need its own identity to separate it from Gunblade and Machinist.
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Oh fuck I figured out who the male Au-ra is in the trailer, it's Calyx.

>Calyx will look more humane in retrospect and gets flashbacks to look more tragic.

Yeah it's Calyx.
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>>737623781
we got a school uni on mogstation during endwalker doe
admittedly with a blazer so its less showy but still
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>>737623908
I CAN FIX HER!
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>>737623652
>>737623684
>Fix the 13th
Yeah, tell me how that is going
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>>737623880
>That's what we're getting

God, I hope not. Fucking slingshot job? Slingshot? Come on...
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>>737623832
Full gunkata double pistol user that focuses entirely on gunplay instead of secondary shit like Machinist would be rad as fuck
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>>737623923
yes but we are still getting gear that you can only roll for once a week that is locked on Need to your played roll.
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>>737623947
Huh so we did, maybe all hope is not lost, that was a good few years ago now though
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>>737623946
>Free MSQ skip
glad I skipped DT holy shit thank you Yoshi-P
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>>737623976
I mean that could be a good sign, this thing having to flee to the source because the first is getting cleaned up
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>>737623946
>Quests now have an opinion for a little trail that you can follow
>Basically Usopp
>Big slingshot

Kek, sounds lame as fuck. It's funny they added the little light trail on the ground for people to follow.
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>>737623832
You fool
The shirt said "Guess Who's Back"
Back
What returns back to the user
Boomerangs
The new Phys Ranged is going to use a giant boomerang like Aika from Skies of Arcadia
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>>737621926
They're usually by major infrastructure hubs and used by smaller/more regional distributors as a middleman before their own trucks/logistics come pick it up.
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>>737623946
>Title wrong
>Dailies as a new system when Yoshi P said dailies are dead
>All the correct guesses were shit we could have seen coming a mile away like PvP buttons for everyone, while not mentioning it as a second mode
Fake as fuck
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>>737619885
please dont tell me you guys are getting baited for another expansion
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>>737624064
It had occurred to me that he might be fleeing Zero and Golbez and found a way to enter the source. I guess he'd have to choose between being turned into a crystal or dying in the source and having his soul return to the aetherial sea. Either way he wouldn't be able to regenerate.
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>>737624191
War/hunting boomerangs don't actually come back even if they miss, boomerangs that come back are toys.
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>>737623946
I don't believe this leak, or think it's been a LONG time ago with many changes since because
>JP title is wrong
>vague "pvp combo button" instead of elaborating
>not a single mention of 2min meta being dead
>why would a playtester know what is and isn't included in free trial
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>>737624191
We already have DNC
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>>737624191
>Boomerang class

Also sounds lame as fuck. Slingshots and Boomerangs are not threatening weapons. They need to do something that's actually "cool" or "slick" maybe a fantasy style ranged weapon, like a boomerang slingshot type device with nuclear bombs that fall from it.
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>>737624176
They already have that in FF14 mobile so it's absolutely going to be added in.
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>>737622306
Because they sanded way too much away in order to both bring up the performance floor and cater to the most vocal retards at the mid-high end.
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>>737624209
Ah that makes ense
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where's zeppla?
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>>737624191
Wouldn't it make sense to save a boomerang job for Meracydia, Etheirys's version of Australia?
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>>737624375
Meracydia will be zone 1 or 2
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>Kate's punishment for ruining everything
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>>737620409
Why isn't warrior a main tank? He also soaks up damage
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>>737624375
>Meracydia
Not happening, it will probably be a special zone like Eureka maybe.
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>>737624375
Hopes boomerang?
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>New ranged job
>But its range is more limited than that of the other ones to make it unique
I wouldn't mind seeing my favorite weapon type from Nioh in the game.
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>>737624414
NO SHIELD
NO MAIN TANK STATUS
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How is this cool/threatening looking? Yoshida just sat down and thought "Yeah, let's make a fucking class centered around Usopp. Let's not make some weird crazy three sword style job, like SAM and Viper combined, no. Let's do a fucking slingshot class."
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>>737624450
Kusarigama is a NIN weapon. The game has had NIN forever. You're not getting a job specifically centered around using Kusarigama and I don't know what possessed you to think of such an idea.
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Nu DRG getting 90% damage reduction during jump gives me hope that MNK would get back it's demi-tank status and could pick up a tether if one tank is dead or something and that's pretty cool
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>>737624475
It's phys ranged retard of course it wasn't going g to be some retarded Zoro class
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>>737624525
>the return of Featherfoot
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>>737624475
>believing the fake leak
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>>737621009
Y'shtola being forced to wear a faulty plug suit in the Eva crossover and complains it isn't working and she's sweating like a pig inside but nobody listens and she keeps complaining until she faints in part 3 of the alliance raid and you have to rip the suit off her and she's naked underneath it so there's another joke where you see her naked
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>>737623365
wise people, you should follow suit
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>>737624414
back to the cuck shed
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>B-But Prime-sama, you can't just make Jobs different and give them unique actions and strengths! That will cause infighting among the playerbase and elitism and some Jobs being better than others-
>Live Mr.Prime Reaction:
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I think it would be funny if the new ranged job was just Puppetmaster with a new name and I could command my little robot to go beat up bad guys
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>>737624558
>hates Zoro

Shit taste.
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>>737624520
Alright then, how about this?
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>>737624525
Them giving drg a skill like that gives me hope that they're gonna put class fantasy over balance for once.
It would be cool if different jobs had niche interactions that made them better or worse at specific fights and you had a reason to play all of them. With the ilvl sharing and easier rotations there's no barriers to doing that.
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>>737624652
>Marionette job but you can evolve/upgrade your puppet
>Customize to make it unique from other players puppets

Sounds kino.
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>>737621407
Wol has his own avatar. His Name is jeff
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PVP bros: Since we already got Sky High, what other PvP-only skill should they put in PvE?
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>>737623951
You cannot
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If you’re not playing evolved then you are getting kicked from my PF
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>>737623832
Here's your new rdps bro
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>>737624795
He's already come out and said whips aren't happening due to design limitations
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>>737624795
Alright yeah i'll accept that, would explain beastmaster not using a whip if they were saving it for a real job
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>>737624845
but flails are?
if it's a physics thing, even fucking runescape has whips, a game from 25 years ago
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Nobody is talking about how low level content is fixed now on Evolved, jobs have their full kit by level 50 now and just stack traits and skill upgrades after that.
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>>737622142
Do the MSQ stuff in the top corner until it says 'To be continued...'

You can also do the side content that unlocks each expansion but progressing MSQ gives you gear and is the only meaningful way to continue gearing until cap

Some people will suggest doing the old raids but only if you're looking for a lot of downtime as specific old raids can have really long queues
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>>737624871
It's a 'how original can you be with whips' thing
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>>737624871
ps4 limitations dude
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>>737624525
how would formless fist work into evolve? I guess it will be closer to PVP MNK. I am still cautiously optimistic
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>>737624845
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>>737622142
You will play through five expansions totaling roughly 250-300 hours. Strap in, big boy.
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>>737624938
nouliths have like 5 different designs, I don't think it's that bad
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https://x.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/2047755150190886942

BUNNYGIRLS FREE FOR ALL
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>>737624974
Greatswirds are now whips
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Wait...

What idf the new Tank isn't a Double Shield...but it's a Gun + Shield role? Like actual riot shield + rifle or handgun.
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>>737624771
Chiten as a parry into damage would be neato
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>>737625073
Just think of the glams
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>>737625073
I'd prefer a crossbow+shield but sure
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I have come to the conclusion after reading thousands of posts from these threads, seeing the same pattern of posters and posting that 95% of the posters here have not attained a tertiary level of education, that their IQ is no greater than 105.
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>>737620409
WAR, GNB and DRK will be just as tanky as PLD and WRD, the latter will just have some gimmick to counter tank busters.
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>>737625073
sign me up
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The new tank is going to be Judge-but-different. The Rhitahtyn shirt was the clue since "rhit ahtyn" means "right judge" in Roegadyn.
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>>737625132
Here's your main tank for the raids.
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>>737625135
>Mmoniggers
105 is being too generous
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Japanese players mistify me, what the hell do you mean they think that they removed synergy because of the buff cap and not because the game fucking sucks with the 2 minute meta?
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DRK makes much more sense as a main tank both based on the lore and the gameplay history but they had to sell their new job with the idea of being the main character and they can fuck themselves for that.
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>>737619885
>tfw played all tank jobs but WAR most of all
I am.... a cucky..?
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>>737624771
mch lb giving them a single huge single target hit to distinguish them from other ranged jobs. Rdm will probably get the stance switching gameplay they have in pvp. Could see them giving blm comet just for the 'super long cast that locks you in place' flavour

You can kinda guess what stuff they're gonna port over too, like deploy on sch being a context dependent skill that either spreads shields or dots.
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>>737625347
JP players tend to not want to express displeasure with the company, so they say it in a nicer way.
Not completely wrong though, this removes a lot of buffs that hurts the buff cap
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>>737625134
Why not two crossbows?
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Listen I'm a DRK main, it being an offtank is fine, it's already often an offtank, you're not gonna be any less manly because you're an offtank now, you're already not manly because you actually care about this shit.
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>>737625347
They've been diving deeper and deeper into the 2 minute meta every major patch for years, and most changes they've made even otuside of that context have been due to spaghetti legacy code. 2min meta was and is ass, but that never bothered the devs until now. It's not a crazy suspicion.
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>>737625347
Just think of the most obnoxious shit eating retards that we have to put up with in the West that defend SE no matter what, defend the status quo and hate change.
That's the JP fanbase.
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>>737625397
>the job that has always been designed on draining his own HP for damage makes more sense as "main tank"
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>>737625487
Cause I want a tank and not a fucking fairy prancing around the arena
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>>737625085
God, I love SAM. The Stormblood trailer showing it off was kino, but everyone just has shit taste.
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>It's an Xaela expansion
Canonically the most powerful race.
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>>737624450

Chad kusarigama user. Absolute GOAT Ninja weapon in real life.
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>>737625494
Yoship is a guy that lets his staff work however they want, it's why sometimes they strike gold and why sometimes they ship pure crap. Yoshida approves anything as long as he trusts the person working on it

Hikaru is his new pet, so basically, he's going to handle him the reins, the previous 2 min meta and "combo system" was the work of the previous battle lead, so it makes sense that a new fresh young guy will revamp almost everything
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>>737625562
the fuck are you talking about, SAM unveiling in the trailer made everyone shit themselves with overhype
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>737625491
It already has the best personal mit that also enables a counterattack, the things that they are defining "main tank" for. Being an offtank doesn't bother me, but revising shit solely for the sake of shilling the new toy is stupid and you'd be retarded to defend that.
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>>737625498
Look at said obnoxious shiteating retards in these threads for thinking they got a 'gotcha' on people with 2 minutes being gone. Now you get even more boring as fuck game design and people STILL won't do savage.
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>Evolved NIN gets rid of Mudras and makes them into regular spells
OR
>Evolved NIN gets an even greater focus on Mudras. More combos or even new Mudras to combine.

Which way?
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>>737622404

VPR and PCT were testbeds for pushing Evolve development forwards. And they were both highly succesful so yeah, now we got evolve.
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>>737619885
Still a reaper
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>>737625765
Unchanged. Mudras are great as they are. Ninja will focus more on positioning and attacking from range
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>>737619885
heres PLD footage after the grapical update from dropping ps4 support.
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I wonder if they'll keep the pure heal/shield heal duality.
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>>737625607
Savage horn holding bareback sex with sadu while magnai watches and rants about sadu's sex game being shit
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QRD on what was announced for a late anon?
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>>737625765
pvp ninja works like the former, but i'm hoping they go the latter route. Unless they're revamping encounter designs as well, pve fights are less dynamic so you need a bit more flair in the rotation to keep things interesting.
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>>737625872
2 new jobs (tank and phys DPS)
All Jobs are being reworked and a new mode is being added ('Evolved' which has less buttons but higher Job identity and uniquee skills, and also possibly won't have autoattacks?)
2minute meta is dead for real.

That's the big thing everyone is talking about.
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>>737625872
Hrothlalas
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>>737625858
>rants about sadu's sex game being shit
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>>737625765
Evolved DRG isn't 1:1 with PvP DRG so I can see them putting more focus on Mudras because those are also important for the lore and flavor of the job
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>>737623759
Believe it or not there are more than one person working for Square Enix. Crazy I know
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>>737624669
Could work
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Fuck I'm thinking about the shield+gun Tank route and it sounds so fucking cool, and the fact that not all Tanks have to be fucking Warrior clones means they might actually do it.

Like imagine if they went full on mundane tacticool and your attacks were shit like flashbangs or grenades and spraying bullets.
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>>737625765
MORE MUDRAS
MORE COMBOS
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>>737624624
SQUARE, HIRE THIS MAN
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>>737624023
Hey look, outraged retard who got told suddenly found his caps lock key
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>>737624624
>Alphinaud gets to see Y'sthola naked for a third time
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Bring back branched jobs. I want specs.
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How will Evolve work in dungeons and multiple targets (overworld)?
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>>737625872
the usual shit, one thing that is slept on is that yoshida announced they are dropping ps4 support in 8.3 and he asked the ceo for a bigger budget.

So for 9.0 we are gonna see a big graphical/game engine update to account for the better specs of switch 2/ps5. If it wasnt for the switch 2 we would see a big jump, but the cpu is dogshit despite being modern its only slightly better than the standard ps4 cpu.
gpu is straight up better delivering over twice the performance. I expect us to get better textures, no more dogshit looking ground textures and plants
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>>737625058
you guys said this was going to be financial suicide
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>>737626261
unironically SMN and SCH mains would complain that they don't get a split spec
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>>737624771
Marksmans spite, have Machinist not do that much damage but then after 4 minutes or so you can pull out a great big dick massive chunk of the bosses HP to make up for it
might not be viable on account of leading to skipped mechanics though, and I guess maybe failed DPS checks from the reduced damage
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>>737626017
dwarfgars...
duergar.
Name would fit the allegedly nordic theming!
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>>737626330
I assume your GCD combo turns into AoE when two or more mobs are in range or something
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>Tank
>Healer
>Melee DPS
>Physical Ranged DPS
>Magical Ranged DPS

fav role?
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>>737624872
I will admit that is exciting but I also have fears about what that means for leveling the rest of the game, less skills per expansion
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>>737625218
Some kind of SWAT tank would be really cool.
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>>737625058
I for one welcome more big brown bunny butts into the game.
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>>737625058
I would have thought they would lock SOMETHING out of the free trial, but it seems not
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>doing level 45 dungeon
>dps isn’t aoeing
>they say they are using reborn
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>>737625073
Consider something like Gunlance from Xenoblade.
It’s a shield also. Man I love XB1, where each char had a specific moveset and weapon.
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>>737626065
Evolved DRG is honestly not a lot like PvP Dragoon other than Sky Shatter.
Sky Shatter is fucking based, which is why I'm glad we have it.
PvP DRG has no positionals, and its Wyrmwind Thrust is tied to Elusive Jump rather than hitting a position. Geirskogul is also its own standalone ability that puts you into Life of the Dragon (you do extra damage but also receive extra damage and can execute Starcross. You exit the mode by using Nastrond). High Jump makes your next combo button turn into Heavens' Thrust.
Other than Sky Shatter I see no similarities currently between the two versions, which surprises me.
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>>737625214
I saw an idea somewhere that guess who's back was a slim shady reference and as such the job name is marshal
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>>737626389
GNB
SCH
MNK
BRD
BLM
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>>737625397
DRK makes the most sense as off tank in the context of defending the rest of the party though, that's supposed to be it's theme, protecting those who can't protect themselves
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>>737626389
DRK
SCH
RPR
BRD
BLM
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Cape Westwind man had missiles.
What if the new P Ranged wields explosive anti-Garlean Magitek weaponry like a notRPG????
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>>737626445
NO NO NO THE MODERN GEAR BREAKS MY IMMERSION!!!!!
(please ignore the best selling ffs being ff7, 8, 10, 13 and 15).
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>>737626389
WAR
SGE
SAM
DNC
RDM
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Is it finally time to resub
I haven't played since they first revealed cancer man
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>>737625607
If they ever actually do the become a daimyo thing I better be able to recruit her
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Which Job should i main if I'm really into feet?
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>>737626742
Dancer or Monk
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tell me /v/ is it really a victory if the raidloggers quit or lose interest and we're back to living liquid levels of famine?
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>>737619885
>>737620409
You do realize WAR mains are just gonna keep playing with reborn mode right? GNB mains too depending on how it is.

You are also now in direct competition with the new tank that this split is probably made to advertise, so if it ends up being strictly better then there'll be no reason to be PLD.
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>>737625765
I hope the later
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>>737626802
>playing the low dps mode
insta-kick
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>>737625854
Considering they are doubling down with main/off tank I would say yes
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>>737625853
What is this? crimson desert?
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>>737626343
You'd think in a game where you're free to train every job and are expected to have multiple trained up (for later job quest capstones) that "mains" would have little meaning. Sure you can have a favourite but you're not being persecuted if that favourite isn't ideal in every situation or piece of content.

Outfits aren't even job locked any more.
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>>737626172
Here's how Sphene can still be mission control
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>>737626330
In bards case AOE seemed to be locked behind a song so it does seem a bit weird to me
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>>737626802
>reborn mode
Vote kick.
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>>737626796
all the actual good players i know love this shit. It's the people who only started playing when job design was already slop that are crying and pissing themselves.
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>>737625872
A lot of this is "you will learn more at EU and NA" so the scope of these things is currently unclear
>Got rid of Allagan tomestones. You have some sort of way to upgrade your gear via all kinds of activities that right now looks a little bit like it's tied to a mobile game UI
The last bit is worrisome, but also work in progress, they stressed.
>Two patches get turned into a season (so 8.0 and 8.1 for example)
They want to have systems tying into that. They are aware 'season' has a negative connotation and tried to reassure is they weren't going that way, and that nothing would be paid for either.
>Your ilevel will be scaled to the highest ilvl job.
So if you grind out savage gear or whatever, then any other job at cap will be scaled to that, alleviating the problem of people being unable to play their alt jobs because they can get only 1 savage piece a week. Materia stays, however.
>Two modes: Evolved and Reborn (for jobs introduced pre-8.0 that aren't limited)
Reborn is just as it is. A Realm Reborn jobs. Evolved is its own thing, with specific quirks, abilities, consolidated abilities. You'll need to see the showcase to get it. A lot of buttons are combined to maintain space, but it doesn't look easier. It's just more practical, while simultaneously looking to be more interesting from a job identity perspective.
Additionally, the two minute meta is gone. Entirely. For both versions.
And (right now just for Evolved), they want you to have more or less a full kit by level 50, with subsequent levels, I suppose giving you traits and followups and all that that further change them. But they want you to have the core job in a functional state by 50. (see picrel)
>Skill customization
Options to (what appears like) customize the look of specific skills, maybe non-combat character animations too? No idea. They just mentioned it with a picture of Dragoon doing Ring of Thorns (originally removed in Stormblood).
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>>737626994
dont even have to vote just set your party to evolve only
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>>737626389
PLD
WHM
SAM
DNC
BLM
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>>737627053
You'll be able to do that?
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great because we need to give the menially au ra attention
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>>737626854
>>737626994
Tell me; if PLDs are the main tank, thus implying they'll be the best at taking hits, do you also think they'll do the most damage?
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>>737626493
I could see them drawing from xenoblade a bit considering the wandering giants in the expansion
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>>737626665
What if the new class is air raider from EDF, but alas too many indoor fights
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>>737627107
We already do the least damage so i'm fine with that
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Thunderbolt Fantasy collab never ever
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>>737627093
I doubt it
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>>737625058
>https://x.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/2047755150190886942
So this is it, if someone completes shadowbringers and all their patches and still don't wanna buy the game, they would never sub even if you add endwalker.
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>>737626389
DRK
SGE
DRG
MCH
RDM
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>>737627107

PLD has to do the most damage in 8.0 otherwise there is no point in having a main tank over two off tanks for any meaningful content.
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>>737626389
>DRK
>WHM
I don't heal, though.
>DRG
>BRD
>BLM
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>>737626389
I play SAM and BRD
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>>737627348
And if PLD does the most damage and is the best at taking damage then there is just as well no point in having an off tank over two main tanks, especially if there are any tank swap mechanics.
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I quit post-Endwalker (literally logged out before Golbez fight). When should I resub and start catching up if I want to get into Coldwolves day 1?
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>>737626389
my fav role is melee dps i dont know why those retards write down job names
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>>737626678
ALL LEVEL "??" BOSSES ARE HEREBY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. PROVIDE THE PROPER LEVEL DOCUMENTATION OR FACE ARREST.
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>>737627278
If they aren't hooked by Emet Selch they aren't ever going to be.
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haven't played since ShB, should I hop on now to catch up or wait for evolvedkino and then go through it all?
I was a smn main so hearing about how EW/DT killed it gave me no motivation to come back. Hopefully evolved fixes it
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>>737627449
September will be the last DT patch. That leaves you with 4 months to do whatever you want from DT and get ready for EC
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>>737621017
I dont think you can be gay and an incel
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>>737620409
How the fuck is Warrior not MT, Raw Intuition is basically a "Go ahead and hit me bitch" button and would absolutely feed into a rage based counter.
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>>737627278
Honestly, if you don't want to sub after Heavensward and Stormblood, you were never going to. Like, forget the story. The trials, raids, 24-mans are dope in those two expansions. If that shit doesn't hook you, nothing will.
How you make it even out of ARR and not get hooked after Binding Coils is beyond me. That shit was so fucking good.
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>>737620984
>Male miqo'te
>incel tier
Wtf...
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>>737621028
When the switch 2 version got announced a ton of random girls I know said they planned to play it’s fucking wild
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surprisingly, the wait wont be as unbearable because gta 6 is (supposedly) at the end of the year, and might not even be "solved" when evercold comes around
its this summer hump that will be shit, I hope there are good games in that time
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>>737627690
Can only imagine how drastically it has to change since it's whole identity is probably changed. Of all the tanks that's gonna be the hardest sell on getting them to swap to Evolved Mode.
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>>737623043
what a stupid plan. People that quits usually just quit and stay away from the game.
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Is the last ilvl tier .5 or .55
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>>737619885
I feel like if you don’t at minimum have all of the pld relics you can’t call our self a pld main
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>>737625872
>>737627038
>Evangelion-themed Alliance Raid
Evangelion-themed Alliance Raid. Nothing more, nothing less. You'll love it or hate it, like the Nier collab.
>New raid difficulty
Not harder than savage; between normal and savage. My personal guess is it's going to take cues from Variant Advanced, since the difficulty on that ended up being positively received.
>Character creation update
Right now looks pretty small scale based on previews: color pickers for hair, skin, eyes, lips, layering face paint, being able to adjust lip gloss level, etc. Hinted that there would be more to it, but we'll probably have to wait and see.
>Toggle on/off select gear pieces
What it says on the tin. The option to hide some pieces on gear for more variety in looks with existing gear. Examples would be that one glam with a scarf, but you'd really prefer it without the scarf. Another example is the Historia chestpiece, but without the leather strap on the front, or the pauldrons.
>Improved overworld zones (field zones), hunts, FATEs, etc.
No indication of what they plan to do, but they mentioned it. My guess would be trying to make all overworld zones more like forays like people keep asking for.
>Improving quests
No idea. It was just on the slide. More details in Berlin. I assume just more types of quest activities that are more interesting.
>Cross-DC duty finder/party finder
Basically what it says. This'll be added somewhere in 7.5x, so before 8.0. I assume 7.56.
>Level cap increase
We're not stuck at 100, so we're going to 110. Mostly a neutral thing, but I know some people wanted to stay at 100.
>More of everything you're already used to
So raids, dungeons, FATEs, hunts, treasure hunts, job relic armor, new normal raid, new Ultimate raid, etc. all more TBA later Fanfests.
>ShB added to the free trial
ShB added to the free trial.
>FFXIV on the Switch 2
FFXIV coming to the Switch 2 in August.

I think that's it?
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FFXIV faggots kys.
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>>737627832
.55
7.5 gives the first half of the final MSQ questline. 7.55 will give us the second half that ends in a long ass cutscene.
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>>737627959
you just turn into goku. thats it
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>>737626389
Warrior
Sage
Dragoon (MNK second)
N/A
Red Mage
>fav role?
Melee DPs.
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>>737627690
You will use those mitigation skills on the main tank and you will like it.
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>>737627959
I need to see what evolved BLM is like.
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>>737625073
I want a lance and shield
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>>737625397
Why not have three mts and 2 ots
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>>737627490
MMO players, reading, etc
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from what I can tell it seems like Dawntrail's purpose as an expansion was to get us the key thingy, and now we're gonna be some kind of dimension-hopping world savior and connect the shards (metaphorically I assume) or something

I suppose if your planet is facing an ice apocalypse, you're not likely to find a better candidate than the person who stopped a light apocalypse already.
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>>737627495
I would love SOLDIER gear tank or whatever grunts are called in ff7 (do they even have a name? they arent turks or soldier) I always liked those chunky helmets.
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>>737627970
7.56 will do that.
We'll get 7.5 on the 28th which has the first part of the MSQ, the Alliance Raid, the dungeon, trial
Then we get 7.51 June 2nd , which has Cosmic Exploration, custom deliveries for taco lizard lad and the new Ultimate
Then we get 7.55 July 28th, which has Occult Crescent North (and its raid that has both modes), the last relic step and Hildibrand
Then we get 7.56 September 8th, which has MSQ part 2 and Beastmaster (this one is a bummer, admittedly. Was hoping for 7.55, but my hype for Evercold stuff is too big to let that drag it down)
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>>737626485
I think all melees have air at level 45 hell even drg gets doom spike
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>>737625437
They removed RDM stance switch a long time ago, at 6.1 I believe
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What are the jobs in the next expansion
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>>737627705
every "tia" miqo is a beta who's too weak to care for a tribe of horned up cat women, and thereby does not reproduce, as we see in Mzhets storyline.
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>>737627959
Evolved dancer is going to either be super cool or just kinda eh and I hope it's the former.
If not, well I guess at least new WHM is close to a return to form and I've already been vibing tanks lately anyways.

>>737626389
PLD or DRK
WHM or SGE
NIN, SAM, or DRG
DNC
Tough one. Kinda like all of them in terms of idea
>fave role
Dancer is/was my long term main, but I dunno if my branching in DT was me getting tired of it or just tired of how the game played in general.
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>>737628214
Does Evolved Dragoon even have AoE?
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>>737627107
How I think it is a good pld will time their blocks and do enhanced counter attacks doing much more damage
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>>737628054
> shantotto gets every element
> every 14 blm cucked with fire/blizzard/thunder
blm will finally be a real black mage as per the rest of the franchise (Evolved only)
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>>737626389
PLD
SGE
DRG
MCH
BLM
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doesn't PLD already have a perfect guard? sheltron giving a slightly higher bonus for the first 3 seconds
so I assume they're moving that bonus to baseline and giving you more damage for doing that instead
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Predict the Evolve changes for the following:

>AST
>MCH
>RPR

GO!
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>>737628275
Skyfall or whatever and Nidhogg attack are two colossal aoes around drg.
Since you WILL be able to flipflop between battle you can always use Reborn on dungeon trash packs if its lacking.
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>>737627690
You don’t have a shield? You don’t get to be a main tank just as simple as that but I could see them making war getting hit more have different skills and yells. Already know it will yell at bosses to lower their damage
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how easy is evolved viper
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I wasn't aware the 2m meta was so hated, why?
I'm kinda neutral on the subject, but I feel that without it the gameplay will lose a lot of complexity, if everyone can throw their big moves immediately without preparing intelligently.
Or do they plan on keeping the buffs but making them personal maybe?
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>>737628253
Tank and Ranged Physical Damage
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How is Paladins' cover gonna work in Evolved? Is it gonna work like shield slam/shield lob in Evolved as well?
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>>737627959
I fully expect grease lightning to come back
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>>737626338
SEX
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>>737628275
There was a throwaway line about attacks being AoE under certain conditions or something.
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>>737627449
Soon because the plot of dawntrail is a big slog and it will be hard to motivate yourself to finish it
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Pretty sure the basic combo in Evolve will turn into the AoE combo if you're in the range of more than one or two enemies.
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>>737628376
Imagine a meta where you switch between trash packs and bosses lol.
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>>737626172
Who?
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>>737628478
Intervention (the gap closer) can now target allies, and casts Cover in the process.
Can't wait to gapclose into my co-tank for a shared TB and get blown up.
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>>737626389
DRK
SGE
SAM
MCH
Pre 6.2 BLM
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>>737626389
WAR
SGE
RPR
MCH
RDM
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>>737628451
What was the complexity of 2m meta, exactly?
>Or do they plan on keeping the buffs but making them personal maybe?
BRD had them but idk to what extent.
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>>737628451
It stifles job design and boss design.
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>>737627107
MTs will do optimal damage if main tanking while OTs will do optimal damage off tanking.
They'll likely be designed where tank swapping is a thing, but it'll likely be short term swaps and things like that one triple tank buster Golbez EX had
>>737628375
>AST
Card drawning is a core mechanic you do very often and what you draw will do different things better or worse or just differently so where you apply them is the learning curve.
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>>737628451
>without it the gameplay will lose a lot of complexity
There was nothing complex about it, you just used the buffs on cooldown and that's all.
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>>737628617
None of the Bard buffs were damage.

They were regen, movement speed, and shield. No damage buff that we can see.

That 5% increased damage shit is GONE
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>>737628647
No you don't get it, it was very important to not miss clicking the button or everything fell apart.
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>>737627413

The bonus damage will be tied to the counter attack, which only a MT can proc. That way having two MT:s would be a dps and mit loss.

But yeah, I think it is really likely that double OT will be the BIS for prog unless they add a +1% bonus for having both MT and OT.
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>>737627767
Can someone go back to the video of the PLD gameplay and see if Holy Pelotron applies the healing effect?
We might live in a world where shit like Raw Intuition's healing and the others won't exist since they want healers (WHM anyway) to actually push healing buttons more.
If it's still there's a moderate chance every tank will get their abilities pushed down to 54ish in evolved mode so it isn't just Warrior who's good at dungeons anymore.
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>>737627856
>My personal guess is it's going to take cues from Variant Advanced, since the difficulty on that ended up being positively received.
I really need to give that a try, i've been waiting to do the base variant dungeon with my FC but the one time a bunch of us were on at once I forgot to mention it. I might just do one route on my own just so I can unlock advanced and then if I ever get the chance puzzle out the alt routes with them still later, or even do 1 route of each direction but only the most obvious main path
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>>737628671
It unironically made everything worse than when we had before with buffs being not on the same timer. There is always a buff drift.
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>>737628451
>that without it the gameplay will lose a lot of complexity
Do you ever use your brain
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>only MT can proc counter attack.

Where is this meme coming from? Nobody said that the mechanic had to be a targeted tankbuster, counter can still proc from Raid AoEs.
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>>737628376
>>737628556
I can only assume that despite what you said you won't actually be able to do it mid dungeon, unless they do just do that as a concession to the AOEs being so locked behind things in evolved jobs
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>>737628451
Because messing up ONCE either put you off kilter for thr entire rest of the fight or forced everyone to adjust to realign. Combine it with the 2m meta dictating boss design where either things had to be "calm" at the 2m window or forced players to learn when to hold because a mechanic would start at 2:05 that prevented a full burst window and it was just annoying.
It also made jobs very boring because they were balancing by making jobs very dull outside of the 2m window and some jobs were annoying in that window like NIN.
It means your skill will come from executing your kit better now.
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>>737628803
don't think, just get angry
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>>737628718
>I really need to give that a try,
Be wary: when people compliment advanced, they're gushing over the difficulty level and how approachable it is. The rewards from it are subpar.
Variant also kinda took a blow because if it. They threw the mount and hairstyle from Variant into Advanced and gave Variant...... a sleeping mask facewear piece...
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>>737621009
choco crotch...
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>>737628370
Guess so
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>>737628451
You prepare by learning the boss, not by an enforced 2 min meta
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>>737628803
It just seems like a cooler, more flavorful TBN, to be honest.
Geared to reward you more or less depending on how well you execute it.
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>>737628701
Man I wish the dyed option wasnt savage locked
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Do you faggots even play the game?
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>>737628576
>Can't wait to gapclose into my co-tank for a shared TB and get blown up.
Gonna be a lot of meming on this happening I think
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>>737628930
Fuck no, I quit before 7.1 and I'm waiting for April 28th before I play again.
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>>737628534
That would make sense but bard seemed to indicate otherwise, your traditional AOE attacks seemed to be locked behind a song, maybe there will be new basic attack AOE attacks that do that and then the song ones as a little extra burst
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So is there anything left worth watching? The Q&A maybe?
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>>737628682
They've already shown two MTs can proc those moves. How they explained it made it sound like MT was better at dealing with specific boss mechanics involving one person while OT had party supporting mitigation.
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>>737628934
>WE GO TOGETHER!
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>>737629002
is the concert from last night up?
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>>737628637
like OT doing less damage when it's taken damage? maybe
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>>737628987
Me too.
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>>737629041
I thought that was for paid viewers?
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>>737624520
Daggers are the ninja's weapons. They aren't going to ban all other conceivable "ninja weapons" from the game just because there is a job in the game called ninja. The don't ban maces from the game because "oh that's a paladin weapon". Settle down.
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>>737628181
They don't really have a catch-all name. Shinra security forces are just named after their combat role, grenadier, riot soldier, security officer etc. Since they are by definition a military employed by Shinra, they are all soldiers, but not all of them are SOLDIER, like this guy.
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>>737628872
>Variant also kinda took a blow because if it. They threw the mount and hairstyle from Variant into Advanced and gave Variant...... a sleeping mask facewear piece...
That is a bit lame, especially the mount moving out of variant, still i am excited to see what the difficulty level is like, a wide variety of different difficulty content is important for the health of the game I think
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>>737628930
nah, I'm busy with Runescape league
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>>737628803

And how easy do you think it will be to proc the counter attack on Raid AoE:s compared to boss auto-attacks?

They did btw show that both PLD:s could proc the counter of an AoE already. But obviously, bringing a counter-based tank into an offtank job is likely to be less efficient. At the same time there will be no point in bringing a maintank into any content over an offtank if there isn't a clear benefit for the party, and usually what kills you in ultimates is damage to your party, not the tanks.
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So I'm assuming the trailer also hints at the future beyond 8.0. We see the reflections being drawn into the Source and the text "unite the stars".
But 8.0 looks like it's going to take place on one specific shard, similar to Shadowbringers with the First.
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>>737628181
>whatever grunts are called in ff7 (do they even have a name? they arent turks or soldier)
Troopers
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>>737629079
to watch it live, yes. but iirc they said they'd upload the performance at a later date
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>>737629109
Runescape sucks.
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>>737629029
>They've already shown two MTs can proc those moves
Probably depends on the fight, they might make such attacks more common in new content for this reason though
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>>737629097
It was lame. It not only meant Variant Advanced didn't feel like its own whole, fully fledged mode because it just pilfered from Variant, but it just made people wanna do regular Variant less. No more reason to do all routes.
And they easily could've added another hairstyle and mount. Hell, there's a griffin boss in the dungeon that they could've easily turned into a third mount.
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When are they going to give highlanders fucking eyebrows and normal noses
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>>737619885
I hope WHM is the only evolved healer made for retards. I have a lot of hope in mr prime to unfuck the homgenization of healers. Otherwise they would have fucked up that role for four expansions in a row.
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>>737622443
Heh
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>>737629176
Let me enjoy the seasonal event before I quit for 2 more years.
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>>737629204
Maybe in 8.0.
Maybe not.
It's really unclear what the scope is on the character creation update. Right now, it looks minor, but I think we'll have to wait and see.
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>>737629061
Based Shadowbringers Chad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tyuIh12_HU
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>>737626228
Third time? At this point he owes her sex
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>>737624621
The fake leak is indeed fake and day but to be fair hasn't Yoshi-P literally call One Piece one of his top 3 anime/manga IPs of all time? (In fact I think it was in the same interview where he called himself an Evangelion super fan too.)

I dont think the leak is real, but I dont think the leak being fake dismisses the possibility of a sling-based ranged DPS, especially when it's already been confirmed that the next two jobs are FFXIV originals. Foolish to act like the leak confirms anything but I would think that an Usop inspired job could be possible considering the interests of the director in charge of making those decisions.
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>>737623117
Based. That's just how it is.
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>>737629047
Nah, that wouldn't work when raid wides are likely still a thing.
More likely they're going to have benefits for using stuff like TBN or Heart on an ally that they won't get as much benefit out of for using it on themselves.
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>>737629246
I earnestly believe we will get more sliders in character customisation but probably not in 8.x. Also the new skin colour picker is AIDS and if I see you walking around like a fucking simpsons character or looking like a smacked arse I'm putting you on the voidlist forever.
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>>737629039
I remember being really distracted by the inner edge of the neck on the shadowbringers master role quest chicks armor being all blury
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>>737628930
fuck no. I quit during dawntrail lol. Not planning on playing unless 8.0 is shadowbringer of quality
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>>737629345
ah yeah that could work
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>>737626172
I'm still mad they threw her away
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How long will it take until everyone agrees evolve is better than reborn anyway
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Yoshi remove Hroth hunchbacks and my life is yours
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>>737629134
I don't think the reflections will be merged, more like permanently bridged
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>people thinking that kat got fired
Nah she still is around
If you heard during the trailer, the granny referred to Meteor as 'them' instead of 'him'
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Are you gonna play the new dedicated Midcore raid mode, bwos?
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>>737629260
The guy they found to voice Vauthry is a fucking god. I love bombastic theatrical acting like that.
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Redownloading XIV now, stopped in stormblood around halfway or so a few months ago, I'm in the plateau region
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Yoshi remove Hroth and my life is yours
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>>737629483
it would explain the 'perfect' gate in the golden city in tural. a permanent and stable gate
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>>737629460
Around...yesterday.
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>>737629348
On the one hand, all we saw right now is pretty minor, but the slide did say "and more!"
And then Koji made that butt slider joke with YoshiP, and YoshiP said "I'll try."
While I don't care for an ass slider, the realm of an ass slider or any slider is far removed from being able to use a color picker for your skin.
Maybe they led with the smaller scale first stuff (maybe that's copium) and we'll see more interesting customization at Berlin.
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>>737629513
Yeah I'll probably check it out, depending on how things are going with my already shitty internet shitting itself even more recently
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>>737629278
Venat having lewd thoughts about her groomed protege + random hobo she snagged from a carriage combo is the reason she got hyper killed. Literally got banned from the world for playing god and picking favorites, thankfully the planet noticed the trend and spat her soul out before she could continue the trend by reincarnating as his and his designated rapist woman's baby
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>>737628451
It's arguably nonraiders that have a problem with it
I think it will change literally nothing in both in raid design and making classes feel more interesting in general. They want to copy World of Warcraft so badly at this point that they will scrape anything to get the subs number higher even though part of it's appeal was not being a 1:1 clone. You might as well add tier sets and M+ at this point. What stifled boss design was having to give a shit about melee uptime. You can attribute all problems with the combat design to this. And people still complained.

>>737628839
You will have retards like this guy saying like deaths weren't always going to be massive damage losses for instance.

Safe to say I feel a bit deflated and I know this won't magically make people do Savage still. It will be a funny metric to see a year into the new expansion because I know exactly what will happen.
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>>737629389
But shadowbringer was bad.
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>>737619885
I played PLD in Endwalker as intended and it was boring.
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>>737629529
I agree but whenever I find someone praising the Brit stage actors I'm reminded of that danger hair who said she didn't want Brits anymore for FF14.
An entire expansion wasted because of the mentality her and her ilk brought to the game.
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>>737629513
Probably. Possibly. I like raids.
I just don't like the kind of culture savage raids create. I'll have to see if this new mode has a healthy future without all the PF drama mongering bs, and if it's actually fun to play.
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>>737629029
Do we even need any more party supporting mitigation? That's already what healers are for so it implies that they'll just double down on shit like Shake It Off. I think a better idea would be focus on debuffs like with Reprisal.
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>>737629204
wait for Berlin :D
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>>737628926
>tfw I have every augmented law's order in royal blue
>they let me wear any set as any job now
I literally just swap between my Aiming, Maiming, Healing, and Scouting sets on fickle whims.
One thing is certain though, everyone turns their head at the Aiming set and that garish helmet and cape combo.
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>>737629512
Well he represents the WoL and the WoL can be anyone so it makes sense to say that since it's also many people and all of the people in the room with them. He's not real after all just a representation of many.
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>>737628617
>>737628647
>>737628794
I literally said it, you have to pool your ressources for the 2m window. Without it you can just throw them asap.
>Do you ever use your brain
Do you, faggot?
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>>737629608
Stop pretending to defend the 2m meta, faggot.
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>>737629513
I'll def check it out. I'm too shit for Savage, so I'll see if this "Heroic" raid is more my level.
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>Kate fired
Game is saved regardless of what else happens
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>>737629464
> auri horns
> highlander eyebrows
> mhroth hunch
> miqom fingers not being perpetually "clawed"
any other big racial annoyances everyone hates?
oh, I guess Elezen emotes being so stiff under the pretense of "regality" but half the knifeears in the game are forest hunters not part of any high houses
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>>737629729
>I literally said it, you have to pool your ressources for the 2m window. Without it you can just throw them asap.
That's... that's not complex.
Pretty much all your CDs are built to return around the 2m window.
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>>737629753
I'm not gonna argue semantics with a likely esl. Please have fun with the new video game designed for your ilk.
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>>737629513
I hope it's just Savage with markers and a little more leniency on fuck ups so you can see the rest of the fight / mechanics easier.
Just really want to learn the savage fights blind but it's masochistic so nobody else ever wants to do that shit.
Whole game you play it blind then "Fuck that go watch a video" at the endgame.
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>>737625607
xaela masterrace
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>>737629706
So does that mean that Meteor is a tranny?
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>>737629761
>>737629512
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>>737621086
I kneel, Tamaki-Sama
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>>737629580
I don't think we'll see sliders anytime soon. Colour picker sucks for skin and should only be usable for hair, eyes, make-up and face paint. Sliders for other body metrics are a huge want for me, total character customisation like customize+ without all the retarded shit. I don't want a hideous sex doll I just want something more human and individual.
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>>737629870
No anon it doesn't, man.
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>>737630016
I dont wanna give my Lalafell mod beast bazoingas but I would like the bust slider to give her at least somewhat visible little lumps.
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>>737629278
God I miss Venat.
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>>737624191
Boomerang class is coming in Meracydia expansion
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>>737621086
I'm very happy to hear there are guys like him still working on the game but also very worried that he did the entire PVP rework all on his own.
He should have a small team with him at the very least so if something were to happen or he leaves the company then his entire work isn't abandoned much like has happened before when single devs responsible for big parts of the game have left before.
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>>737630130
Pedofell
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>good expacs
>always introduce a tank or healer job with a dps one

>shit expacs
>always introduces two dps jobs

HOLY FUCK
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>>737620409
>meta ends up being double OT since it's easier to keep the tanks alive than it is the party w/o the extra AoE buffs
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>go to reddit (yeah i know shit on me all you want) to check how people feel
>overall, people are really positive about it
>but there's a few people with "concerns"
>"but what about the complexity and social element of pressing your buff button in sync every 2 minutes?"
>"but what about the intricacies of deciding to use single target attacks or aoe attacks...?"
what the fuck
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>>737630130
a full bust bar gives you an a cup

and its only visible with certain tops
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>>737629843
Are you okay?
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>>737630259
Endwalker was garbage tho?
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>>737630271
The top end raidtrannies are the only ones "concerned" about the changes, and theyre almost certainly also posting on Reddit
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>people surely believing 2min meta is dead
They'll remove the party buffs, but your main cooldowns will still align to 1-2min windows.
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>>737629513
I assume it'll be on a weekly release, so normal mode comes out, then next week tricky, then savage.
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>>737630271
ffxiv is the most complex game they have ever played
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>>737629843
That guys writing in perfect English. Why are you throwing a melty over nothing?
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>Evercold come sout January 2027
That means I have to suffer another year of floptrail...
I want evercold now!
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>>737627107
It's funny how this is exactly how the MT and OT roles will be. MT will deal less damage, while OT will do more damage. This is going to be another Heavensward where PLD will be in the shed because the new MT for 8.0 will be better than them.
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>>737630479
Honestly I'm more betting they're either gonna release Normal and 'Hard' mode together and hten Savage a week later, or drop Hard and Savage at the same time.
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>>737630560
Play FFXI.
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Do they put the FF XIV trial on consoles and can you use the same account on PC? I might actually try the trial if I can play on Switch 2 and PC
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>>737630597
It's had nothing new added in the last year besides the monthly RoE shit for leveling up your Trusts.
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>>737630606
No free trial on switch I'm afraid Nintendo said no.
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>>737630597
I'm playing gw1, wow and eso in the meantime. I would play XI again if they merged the subs.
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>>737630606
Last I checked, Trials apply to Trial accounts, and owning the game in any fashion upgrades you account to paid. Also, I hope you're aware Nintendo went full hand-rubbing and requires XIV has a separate monthly fee exclusively for Switch 2 regardless of being subbed to the game on other platforms.
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>stuck with the same shit writer
>every tranny will run around with bright neon hair colors from a SHITCH 2 at 20 fps
>playerbase in freefall
>nothing new announced, YOSHITPISS is barely able to play catch up to competitors
>nothing about housing
>nothing about netcode
>autorun to quests
>gachaslop
>the dumbing down continues to accomodate the SHITCH 2 japanese salary men doing their weeklies on the subway to work

DEAD
TRANNY
SLOP
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>>737619885
>pldcucks not realizing the new tank job will cuck them out of the mt role
Being the MT isn't the own you think it is.
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>Norse expansion
>One-eyed.
Yep, Odin.
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why are tanks so less dps in solo content
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>>737630560
>>737630597
bro try other games like ESO and GW2 or another genre
>what about wow
gameplay is okay, but the story is ass and your endgame is maze+ and other pugslop shit.
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>>737630730
>used the old census
OOPS!
It's even LOWER now!
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>>737630728
>>737630673
What a missed opportunity. Retards. I bought a ARR so I can't use the trial on my old account but I would just make a new account. I doubt I have anything good on my account considering I hit the credits and quit. I just want to play the free expansions I don't really care about grinding end-game crap.
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>>737630730
>>737630821
english i cant moon
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>>737630792
Tell the class something new they announced, JEET tranny. He's trying to do what other games did decades ago. Also, 90% of the things YOSHITPISS shows won't be in until years later.
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>being excited for this
>conveniently forgetting that the mystical macguffin is going to lead the WoL to the homeland of the super-lalafell who were the canonical first race
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>>737630831
Yeah it sucks. They did belabour the fact that they tried to negotiate for free trials and shared subs but Nintendo clearly cannot stand the idea of not fleecing everyone who is retarded enough to own a switch 2.
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>>737628451

They spelled out the issues in the livestream. Basically, the issue with two minute meta is that it forces class designs to obey it. If your job can't look in a 1 or 2 minute rotation, it can't play into the two minute meta and will be deemed useless. So every job has to loop in 1 or 2 minute rotations. Which wouldn't NECESSARILY be bad, except when this is informing the design for 21 jobs, its very hard to actually make any meaningful mechanics within that design space.

So, removing party buffs all-together is the option you got left to get outside of that design space. And thanks to that, now they can design class mechanics around player reactivity (when the DRG wants to go into his personal lb, when the PLD wants to active his ranged combo) and also the general loops of the job (that are still there) can be varied. For instance PLD had a 40 second loop since they needed 40 seconds to get a stack of Honor that they use to go into blade mode.
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>>737630930
The Ancients were the first race not Mi-lalas.
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>>737630927
>Tell the class something new they announced
◆🙵■ □◆ □⧫
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>>737630821
okay that funny
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have they fixed the absolutely mindnumbingly boring
>walk cutscene 15min
>combat 2min
>repeat
for like what 200-400 hours?
have they trimmed down post ARR even more because that was just so bad
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>>737624414
For all we know Warrior has lost its chosen one status and it can't remain completely invincible for effectively indefinitely in dungeons anymore
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>>737631018
LOL!
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>>737630983
>They spelled out the issues in the livestream. Basically, the issue with two minute meta is that it forces class designs to obey it.
Not just job designs.
But boss designs too.
They mentioned that they had to make sure there was a lull in boss activity at designated times to account for people having to use all their buffs and burst.
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>>737631018
Nothing has been changed MSQ-wise other than the time in 5.3 they stripped 20 of the 2.X quests and adding flying to those zones at the same time.
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>>737631050
.........
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>>737630673
>Jewtendo wont allow free trails
>Jewtendo wont allow shared subs
I don't know why people thought they wouldn't pull some scummy shit like this, they know they can get away with it because tendies will defend anything they do.
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>>737630912
For all the JEET shilling in these threads from terminally addicted SHIT EATERS, the playerbase is tanking!
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>>737630730
>>737630821
holy wow
i kekking lmao
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>>737631018
You made this post already. This ain't twitter you aren't getting paid for doing it.
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>>737631072
welp....
i clocked out after playing for hours and hours on end
got as far as mid shadowbringers and i could not follow the story anymore or rather
not take the walking around with enemies just standing there
>>737631148
im allowed to post what i want lol
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Stream doko
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>>737631134
>saar i am doing the replying to myself saar
bluddy benchod game dead sar you facking fack you bluddy saaaar facking
I hope you don't get paid for this.
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>>737631075
>>737631134
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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>>737630930
This. It's going to be about the fucking milalla, why would anyone even pretend to give a shit? XIV is made exclusively for middle-aged women now because that's where the money comes from
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>>737631224
There's nothing to watch at the moment. Just PvP tournament.
Q&A with YoshiPee later might be interesting.
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>>737630686
Don't play a lot of games at the same time...
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>>737631247
>middle-aged women
TROONS!
Not women
TROONS!!!
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>>737630429
I'm not a top end raidtranny and I am concerned
but i'm specifically concerned about single button combos, the rest of the changes (mostly) sound great, and they might even adjust some of the few aspects I don't like about the other changes to be closer to what I want in the end
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>>737631220
>Doing it for free
>Doing it with glee
Couldn't be me
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>>737631054

Yeah. I also forgot to write my own personal opinion, which is just that two minutes are fucking stupid?

Either you ABC properly and you arrive to your two minute at the same time as everyone else. Or you play it incorrectly and you miss the two minute window. The two minute window is extremely unreactive to player input though. The most you get is a few instances where the party agrees to delay it for a few seconds to better line up with a mechanic. That's it. There's basically no reactivity to the mechanic since it basically never makes sense to delay it on the fly based on what happened. Most likely this just loses the party way more dps than a late burst.
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>>737631308
Go back to KF
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>>737631308
Why do you type like you're like this IRL
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>>737630673
>>737630952
Where did they say this? I saw them saying about having to pay the extra sub in the (post) keynote but I didn't see anything about switch lacking the trial
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>>737631247
>XIV is made exclusively for middle-aged women now
All the middleaged women I know who play this game are fucking livid though. They're all omnicrafters, and crafting/gathering is getting fucked in the ass
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>737631327
>JEET shitskin post
Couldn't be me
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>>737630742
anon...odin is a weapon primal already...
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>>737630179
>relationship with venat is
>meet big crystal
>grab crystal gym medals
>get coddled by big crystal during fight with black wizard guy
>get crystal powers stolen by big snoozy dragon
>doesn't talk to you (sends minfilia to talk to you for some reason)
>
>
>
>
>
>comes out of hiding like two years later the second you find out she's a black wizard guy (girl) (white wizard) spitting out excuses
>you go back in time and have a fancy tea time with her and find out she had the keys to the final boss area AND knew about it all along which makes 90% of the game some wild goose chase against black wizard guys that could be resolved instantly if instead of playing dollhouse she worked on fixing the brain damage the big suspiciously AWOL super mario rpg clock monster did on the black wizard gang leaders 12.000 years ago
>FINALLY has a meeting with you in person
>gives you a literal fucking revive spell that could have helped a LOT multiple times earlier
>seriously that's a literal fucking true resurrection spell that brings people to life, no zombies no ghosts no anything that is unironically a revive do you have any idea how hard this can BREAK the entire world and solve the whole game up to this point
>After having a whole TWO chats she just dies
>not any death she just really, unironically dies so hard the world can't revive her even after death with its magical soul cycle she's just fucking GONE forever
>has a 12.000 year old dog

what THE FUCK was her problem?
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>>737630730
Switch 2 is stronger than ps4
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>>737631361
I didn't hate-hate gameplay in DT, but I'm so glad I get to go from active gameplay every 2 min with lulls between to what's looking like being constantly active. Shit is cash money.
The 2m meta will NOT be missed.
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>>737631308
>troons
I wish. I'm a massive chaser, and I have yet to meet a single transgirl in xiv
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Do we know if 8.0 requires 7.0 completion, or will it be a separate story?
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>>737631247
XIV has more older women players than any other MMO i've ever played. I have no clue what draws them to it, half my FC are middle-aged women.
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>>737631419
so if the girl kneeling before the crystal is Halmarut, is her real name Freya? or will they be sticking to greek names for ascians
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>>737631473
We just don't know, it does seem a prime candidate for an alternative start point
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>>737631452
She was a little bit eccentric.
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Oh my god bruh
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>>737631419
>lmao 2 bismarcks
non issue
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>>737630271
>WHMs on Twitter are legitimately complaining about how there was skill in casting Glare
The first time I wanted to strangle some people in the community
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thoughts on male viera or male miqo'te? I am a manlet irl
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>>737631312
Changing your 1>2>3 to just one button that cycles doesn't really affect gameplay too much though. At least not in an MMO with a GCD. It just free's up button space for other stuff which really just means more control over a wider range of abilities at once. It will be interesting to see if more unique abilities are added to the evolved classes to accommodate this.
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>>737631473
Same as always: completion of all the MSQ before.
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>>737631452
>seriously that's a literal fucking true resurrection spell that brings people to life, no zombies no ghosts no anything that is unironically a revive do you have any idea how hard this can BREAK the entire world and solve the whole game up to this point
It also is working on a slippery definition of "summoning" and requires a crystal you don't have until post-Shadowbringers and needs supercharged with aether from a character that is functionally a goddess who is personally not interested in giving Man an easy out for all their problems
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>>737631481
isn't lyna like 20 something
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>>737631567
>I am a manlet irl
Play a lala.
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>>737631458
Switch 2 is only better than PS4 in this game's case for 3 reasons
> DLSS Lite instead of TAA/FSR1 garbage
> 3.5gb more RAM for devs
> SSD read speed as a baseline

The latter two points is what's hurting PS4 XIV right now, and they're not going to waste more dev resources optimizing for a 13yo platform, when they already dropped PS3 when it was 11yo.
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>>737631419
Odin deserves better than what he got man
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>>737631481
In my experience, it's crafting and housing. None of them raid with us, but they seem to love making sure we all have current gear and food and keep the FC house looking nice.

I like them a lot, actually. They're good people.
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>>737631548
It was somewhat true before they increased cast speed.
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>>737631537
IT'S OWARI DA
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>>737631419
Odin has like dozens of different names like Grimnir, Baleygr, etc
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>>737631598
Lyna's 33, she's one year older than Y'shtola.
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>>737631598
Shadowbringers Encyclopedia Eorzea says she is 33
She could be literally any age for what it matters since she's a viera and they lifted "oh yeah they live to be like 500" wholesale from Matsuno, giving them far and away the longest lifespan of any sapient race
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>>737622791
Mooglemancer
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We have people here unironically admitting they browse reddit and act holier than thou
What happened to this website
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>>737631548
You can slidecast out of everything with 1.5 glares.
Healers having to use GCD heals and thus needing MP management needs more skill.
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>Evolved mode!
>It'll be like wrathcombo!
>But shit!
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>>737631693
It's been like 16 years since 4chan first developed the (mostly one-sided) Reddit obsession and the internet has consolidated quite a bit since then
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>>737631675
>cid is fucking younger than yshtola
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>>737622791
>What fucking jobs are left to add?
Artificer?
Time Mage?

Then again, they said it's gonna be something "new" so it'll be like..some Garlean classes like "Agent" for the DPS and ""Bulwark" for the tank
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>>737631402
It was at the same time. The mentioned that the switch REQUIRES a subscription because you have to buy a copy of the game to play. Due to this they negotiated with Nintendo to allow people to play without the Nintendo online sub too and to make it half price if you owned a sub for another platform.

The conversation picks up around 3:14:50 https://youtu.be/_aCGzxWczCM?t=11690
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>>737631789
No he's 34.
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>>737631506
greek natch.
She and male-xaela will be a brother-sister pair
"thats oldface manra hes her father" nah they're siblings.
Oldmanra will be the Hythlo to her Emet, but reversed.
She will die early in the story (or has already died as part of her prayer in the trailer and is already possessing a new host from the 9th).
Oldmanra will be seeing her task to fruition but like Hythlo will not be antagonistic toward (you).
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>>737630930
>forgetting that the mystical macguffin is going to lead the WoL to the homeland of the super-lalafell
?
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>>737631693
Whats wrong with browsing reddit?
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>>737631465

Yeah, I've liked doing raiding for years now. I'm not personally extremely against two minute meta, but logically I can see its issues and I'm all for the way the new system and how the design paragdims for it will technically make the jobs harder?

the evolve DRG looked way harder optimize than the current DRG since it will be faster paced and more fiddly with not fucking up your positionals. And PLD is objectively harder since timing counter attacks to boss damage will be a huge knowledge and timing check compared to the current iteration which is one of the easiest jobs in the game.

I'm a bit more reserved regarding WHM but I think that in principle, focusing on gcd healing and making it damage neutral will be wayyyy healthier for the game. We'll have to see if it feels better to play though, but I think frequent gcd healing will help with breaking up the monotomy of WHM a bit at least?
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>>737631812
I think you are just hearing what you want to hear out of Nintendo derangement syndrome, nothing of it implies anything about the free trial one way or the other
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If EC is Norse themed that means we might see the 4th's version of an Odin summon and meet another Nidhogg.
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I'm surprised they haven't moved the game to proper F2P, and instead charge you monthly for resetting your tome progress battle-pass looking thinger.
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dont they understand??
The OT changes means as a DRK I can keep using up my hp for big damage
So healer cucks will have to keep healing me with GCDs or we fail the dps check
LMAO TAKE THAT PARSEFAGS
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>>737631693
Are you RETARDED? Perhaps,BRAINDEAD even? Or are you too LOW IQ? These threads ARE like REDDIT!
Shills, TRANNIES and FAGGOTS licking YOSHITPISS'S CRUSTY asshole for doing the bare minimum! The Playebase is in Freefall and for GOOD reason!
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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>>737631920
It's not my opinion or my words. They said it on stage. I just showed you.
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>>737631606
too much of a meme race
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>>737631548
That one lalafaggot avatarfag has been defending the current state of WHM forever, are you really surprised reddit or twitter would be the same way.
Speaking as an ARR WHM main who utterly fucking HATES the current state of the job, I like the changes. Still nowhere as good as ARR was with clerics, a fun ogcd, several dots, uses cases for different levels of Stone, etc. But it's a distinct step in the right direction.
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>>737631875
They're going to write in some garbage about how they ended the fifth umbral calamity by shifting the ice aether into another reflection, and went with it to work on ending it there or some shit.

The point being, it's going to be an expansion about them, and it's gonna just be shit.
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>From Tacos to Tenders: Serving up the Lyrics of FFXIV
niiice
>Presenters: Michael-Christopher Koji Fox, Matt Hilton
fucking niiice
>Special Guest: Ironmouse
FUCK
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>>737631953
>XIV getting the type of people F2P games attract
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>>737632056
We already went through a whole story about the lalashits not being able to actually control their dimensional travel and they traveled in the first place because they begged an Azem macguffin really hard, as soon as Alexandria had a semi-reliable method of forcing the crystal to work they worked on locking that shit away ASAP and it's why Krile is with us
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>>737631537
is this ffxivdiscussion?
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>>737632153
>We already went through a whole story about
And it's still going, anon. And it will continue. Do you remember the last patch's MSQ?
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Imma be real brehs, I don't think anyone cares anymore
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>>737632056
It sounds like you're making up stuff to get angry about.
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>>737632251
Congrats on being forced to ignore everything that followed to belabor the point that's contradicted by the story
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>>737631548
these niggas want to be genuine green dps
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>>737632104
No worse than the people it already attracts currently.
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>>737632229
You fucking bet it is.
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>>737631452
>big suspiciously AWOL super mario rpg clock monster
they're going to pull a rust tyranno and make Kairos a final boss in a random ass deep dungeon aren't they
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WoL needs to return to Ul'dah and secure the line of Ul immediately
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>>737632097
WHERE THE FUCK IS KATE?
WHERE IS SHE???
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>>737632290
>everything that followed
these were literally the most recent quests in the MSQ. You're delusional.
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>>737632343
this but the qesh line
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>>737632419
Writing EverSHIT
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>>737632419
we thought yoship killed tony after 2019
but he was still there yesterday
she's probably in the translating mines, waiting for her comeback
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>>737632419
Kate really is /v/'s Poochie. "I don't see Kate in this room. Where's Kate?" Dementia patient wandering the halls and asking where their sister went.
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>>737632309
Yeah, it seemed retarded enough.
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>>737632252
HOLLY KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>737632252
How the hell is viewership so fucking low lmao?????? I had to double check and the full dawntrail trailer sits at 1,5m views or the teaser trailer at 2m
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>>737632419
Having a life changing experience.
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>>737631537
I refuse to believe people like this exist
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>>737631472
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>>737632252
shart peenix xistxers.......
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Stop acting like you are normies retards.
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You doomtroons are trying way too hard, you lost maybe next time.
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>>737632252
Yoshitpisstroons deserve thes for dfend ff SHITsteen
get fuck
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>>737632482
>>737632486
>>737632547
>>737632610
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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>>737632252
>>737632486
Majority of the player base were playing for the story/ MSQ. Dawntrail killed off their love for the game.
Even if Evercold is good, a large portion of people who used to play unfortunately won't ever return.
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>>737632583
Doomniggers got lazy. Theyve been winning for all of DT so now theyre not prepared for the game getting genuinely good news.
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>>737632041
rent free. and misinformed. dig into your archives and do your research
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>>737632610
holy esl meltdown
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>>737632252
kek
>>737632643
TRVKE, FFXIV is gucking dead game lmao
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>>737632610
So this is how it looks when you phone post while shitting outside
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Why is Sukdeep Ranjeet replying to XIMSELF?
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>>737632486
People moved on. Endwalker being a good conclusion + dawntrail being bad. It will take a couple of expansion, but even then we will never reach the same population launch dawntrail had
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>>737632658
Clerics Stance was good for WHM and gave healers proper skill expression.
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>>737632670
continue to eat slop troon
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Holy shit ITS OVER
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>>737632252
Im waiting for the second half of the trailer.
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>>737632486
DawnTROON killed the game and CHADnight brough everyong bcak to Wow
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>>737632652
They're probably praying half of the announced things don't happen or if they happen suck in reality and are underbaked and YoshiP has to apologize publicly for letting everyone down.
They don't truly believe any of the announced stuff (other than maybe the mockup UI of the new character screen) is actually bad. But they can't relent. Not for a moment. So now they're basically chewing on a meatless bone, waiting for an actual controversy to spark up so they can say "I TOLD YOU SO HAHAHAHAHA"
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Did they ever redo the cat's voice acting with an actor who is more consistent?
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>>737632739
thats great

i played bard in ARR and WAR in HW after i got sick of WM bowmage
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>>737632252
>Endwalker 6.1 patch and 6.2 had more viewers during it first 24 hours
>even Dawntrail had more
its going to years to recover
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>>737632652
They've been steadily losing for all of DT in my opinion, graphics update filtered out a few lunatics who were overly attached to how their character looked when the update made them 99.99% similar, only real big slip-up for the whole expansion has been Occult Crescent's first zone sucking, endless parade of being forced to bitch about 7.0's story because even 7.1 with Koana laying his life down for a cow's sake was broadly better and it only went up from there.
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>>737632812
>CHADnight brought everyone bcak to Wow
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>>737632252
405k views after one day for a 13 year old MMO is pretty good. Least XIV still has a budget after all this time unlike the travesty that is what happened to FFXI.
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>>737632781
O
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>>737632658
vague free. and vague. dig into your vague and do your vague.
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>>737632819
I know you samefagging, but not a single doompost talking about the trailer aren't saying that the expansion is good news. They just talking pure numbers how low the viewership is.
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Why are trancers like this? did the HRT rot their brains?
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>>737632827
LOL!
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>>737632869
The real slip ups were:
>7.0 MSQ
>7.1 MSQ
>Chaotic
>South Horn
>Forked Tower
Funnily enough, all front loaded. As the expansion progressed, it got better. And the amount of good QoL we got and continue to get in Dawntrail is crazy.
Personally, I liked South Horn fine. I didn't think it was great, but it gave me some content to chew on for a bit, which is something. I even think Chaotic is a little more appreciated as a mode now than it was then. But broadly, those were considered slip ups by the community.
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>>737632781
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
WOWSAMA PLEASE FORGIVE ME
PLEASE DONT ANIHILATE MY TROON GAME NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Predict the how many copies evercold is going to sell
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OINK
OINK
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>>737633028
I don't think Chaotic was even a slip-up, people just expected it to be evergreen content for some fucking reason and got mad it wasn't. It was what it was billed as, a hard Alliance Raid.
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>>737632869
No, DT has still been overwhelmingly meh, because the better patches are still tarnished by the overall experience.
Don't get me wrong, I'm excited as fuck about EC, but don't sit here and try to peddle that DT was good.
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>>737633045
1 to a troon that kill themself a month latter
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I think we can safely say DawnGAWDS won
NIGHTRANNIES SEETHING
EVERFLOPPERS COPING
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>>737633028
and yet population kept on dropping...why? Even 7.4 had a decent msq and good raid and it still went down to 771k, which is the lowest it been in 7/8 years. How did EW never go below 990k during its entire expansion vs dawntrail? Think
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Any news on a 1.0 server revival?
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>>737632985
There's nothing like that moment when you see a group you hate completely wipe out their credibility in one go.
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>>737633135
>How did EW never go below 990k during its entire expansion vs dawntrail?
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>>737633045
Like 20% to 40% lower than DT. Word of mouth might help it...but I don't see the growth of new players like past expansion had
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What happens if Blizzshart releases Classic Ploos close to Evercold? Will it be ogre for Shartnix?
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>pretending that troontrail is retroactively good
play through it again then, I dare you
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>>737633145
i want that so bad.
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>>737633262
Endwalker ended in 2024. Wow refugees already left by 2023 and 2022. Also covid was also over by 2024
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DEAD GAME
>DEAD THREAD
DEAD GAME
>DEAD THREAD
DEAD GAME
>DEAD THREAD
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People talking about patches you retarded shitposter.
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>>737633224
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>>737633374
i know right. yesterday we only had 5 threads hit 1200+. its so over...
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>>737633370
>Wow refugees already left by 2023 and 2022
Drama mongering and google docs flying around in the community suggests otherwise
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>>737633393
they were shit too, the same shit from the same pot of shit
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>>737633336
>Classic Retail
It'll be a massive flop
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>>737633074
Chaotic had too many body checks that turned it into more discord content. That's I think its main issue. Sentiment has turned around a bit to being neutral-positive, but I think it just wasn't what people had hoped for.
Personally, if Chaotic makes it into Evercold, I am going to assume it will get rid of bodychecks and be more like "Alliance Raid (Advanced)".
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>>737631812
That sucks. I would have bought a copy just so i can fish on the shitter, but I'm not paying an extra subscription.
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>>737633374
>he says in a thread on the cusp of hitting 700 or more before archiving (like multiple other threads in the wake of the Evercold announcements)
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>>737632252
We know the population is about back to where it was pre-ShB. Before Covid and WoWfugees gave the game a massive spike.
And the ShB teaser trailer is at 505k today.
So 400k after day isn't bad at all, when we're at pre-ShB population WITHOUT the hype and hope, during a time XIV is treated like a joke and shit on for fumbling DT.
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>>737633571
yeah and eveyoen is shiiting on teh shit game
learn your place fftroon
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>>737633571
Threads are so active even the usual thread schizos can't get a foot in the door, one made a template thread last night in his usual fashion "Previously on Final Fantasy XIV..." and nobody paid him any real attention even as the OP.
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>>737633626
>yeah and eveyoen is shiiting on teh shit game
1. yeah 1 guy samefagging as hard as he can
2. "saar the eveyoen is shiiting on teh shit game bluddy benchod madarchod"
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>>737633763
did your dilate today?
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>>737633680
I know it's not gonna last. All the excited people are going to move on with their lives until the next info drop because there's only so much discussion you can have over the same bits of information. And then the handful of shitposters will fill the gaps and make threads unusable for those who stick around in an attempt to make them feel like the minority.
But for now, the positivity and excitement is really fun.
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>>737633813
>saar you are doing the faakin? dilate benchod madarbitch ziv dead do not redeem the evercold you are doing the trooning out bluddy faakin!!!
Why is it always jeets
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>>737633840
If it's any consolation the retards are gonna be forced to basically spout gibberish when threads slow back down and they regain dominance, since the changes announced have torn up the usual drums they beat.



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