What type of gamer are you?
>>737624835Both at the same time.
Skip all cutscenes and use my imagination
>>737624835Problems?
Only retards disliked this bossCool design, cool music, cool fight
music was goodhttps://youtu.be/FDrRSQbUQXA?list=RDFDrRSQbUQXA
>I need need to have zidane in my party for this boss? lets take some other lower leveled character then, just because I can
>>737624835Shoot first, and shoot again.
>>737624835I use the nukes and consumable superweapons right away. Hoarding is boring.
They could've just made it kuja's third form with some handwavy explanation and it'd have probably have saved 26 years of pseud posts. Nobody questions why any other FF bosses turn into incomprehensible messes at the end.
I never beat FF9, and I'm not sure why.
>>737626185You should.
>>737624835It's pretty stupid that this is the only boss in FF where the final boss is only there because of thematic/vibes based reasons. Even VIII, which is otherwise a mess, ends with you fighting someone you already have the context for
>>737626945Cloud of Darkness was sort of the same. Xande is the villain you're after for the second half of the game until a reveal at the 11th hour.
>>737626185because it's overrated dogshitevery moment I spent playing IX I just wished I were playing VIII instead
>>737626945There's Cloud of Darkness. If you want to be lenient, there is also one that is in reverse, where the final boss has no idea why you're there.
>>737625086>>737625453Massive drop off in quality from FF8
>>737628848even the final boss fight in 8 was way more kino
Necron wasn't out of nowhere. Only speed reading retards say that.
>>737627205>>737628763>conviniently forgetting Zemuseverytime
>>737624835>>737625071fixed
>>737628915VIII has one of the best final dungeons and final bosses in the series, so that’s admittedly a high bar to live up to.
>>737624915ThisI'm all in for killing God at the end of a JRPG, but I do still appreciate some goddamn context
>>737624835literally me on the left
>>7376273208 is bad though
>>737629573KEK
>>7376298318 is actually one of the best entries in the series, and could have been even better if its development wasn’t rushed.
>>7376298318 mogs the shit out of 7 and 9
>>737624835Left. Minus the part where I want a video essay to do this shit for me and assume the context doesn't matter to the actual gameplay.
>>737629957>>737629932kekok, whatever you guys say9 is still better
>>737629304Yeah my bad.
>>737625086IX is my favorite game in the franchise. It should've ended with disc 3. There's nothing to do except the final dungeon/boss. Any optional content you would've wanted to do, you would've done before going to Terra since the game gives you that 'Are you sure you wamt to go theough with this?' prompt that almost every other game gives you when you're about to enter the final dungeon/stage and there's no going back. "But what about the gimp pig sidequest?" you say. There's a reason nobody knew about it until over a decade past the game's release.
>>737629573>this town ain't big enough for 2 nigger haters
>>737632239To be fair the final discs of VII and VIII are just their respective final dungeons as well. VIII's also has a you cannot enter previous places moment like IX.
>>737624835dark souls was a mistake
>>737629304Not really. We know long before, that mind control is involved and after Fusoya and Golbez Zemus is pretty logical. It's only when his anger turns into Zeromus do things turn a bit more abstract, but there's still some continuity.
>that's me, i'm a russian faggot modelsure convinced me with that "chad" shit
>>737632548I do think it’s cool how VIII and IX both have excuses as to why you can’t access most of the locations on the final disc. I do wish they gave you a clearer warning when the point of no return was though. VIII could have used some kind of prompt to tell you that there’s no going back after fighting Adel.
>>737632548I know, but it's a bit different with IX because the story hits its conclusion with the death of Kuja/destruction of Terra. Memoria, Necron, and everything else in disc 4 doesn't add anything to the narrative. It just feels like someone went 'we can't just let all this cut content go, can we?'
>>737632239True. FF9 has probably one of the best first-half of a game i've ever played. First two discs are damn incredible, and i can't think of another RPG from that era that impacted me quite as much. Then it starts shitting the bed FAST in 3, but that is to be expected, moreso in a ff title. Don't think any of them end in a particularly high note except maybe 8.
>>737624835I "love" when FF bosses get a "fuck your entire party up" move, Grand Cross in his case.>Manipulates planetary alignments to wreak any number of these effects to all party members: Berserk, Doom, Petrify, Stop, Freeze, Heat, Confuse, Poison, Trouble, Silence, Zombie, Darkness, Instant Death, Mini, Sleep, and HP is reduced to 1–10. Each one of them has a 1/8 chance of being inflicted.
>>737633689I love it too but unironically, unlike you
Kuja literally wins, they made the actual final boss a scripted loss in a game that already was over-reliant on scripted losses. Necron is a deus ex machina solely to prevent Kuja from succeeding
>>7376336698 has an exceptionally strong opening and an exceptionally strong finale. FF8’s first disc alone is peak FF and enough to cement it as an all time great.
>>737633751It's an interesting concept, but also an incredibly cheap attack that can just end the battle right there because RNG decided none of your characters can move any more.
>>737630415This, anyone who played and enjoyed VIII knows its issues, myself included, VII and IX are clearly superior. It’s not the train wreck it’s often made out to be, and the gameplay and character building feel good, it’s just when your story isn’t doing the lifting in a narrative driven genre, it can make everything feel kind of meaningless, just stuff to do and click on. This game rarely just throws players to the wolves on that front, usually telling players what to do, but not why. So it isn’t nearly as bad as it’s made out to be, but it is certainly one of those games where things “just happen”.
>>737624835>Necron literally explains what he is and what he wants to do in like five dialogue boxesWHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS?
>>737624835both, except for the last sentence on the left
>>737633780>Kuja literally winsHe explicitly does not. His entire goal was to not die. After realizing he can't overcome his mortality, he decides to destroy everything. The party defeats him and destroys Terra in the process and they escape with the Terrans back to Gaia. Zidane then finds Kuja on the verge of death on the roots of the Lifa Tree and Kuja comes to terms with his mortality, then dies. This is the point where the game should've ended, but then Memoria opens up and disc 4 starts.
>>737626185I never beat FF9 because my fourth disc had something wrong with it and I didn't know until I'd played through the others.
>>737626945He's directly comparable to Neo Exdeath from FFV, who is not really Exdeath.
>>737633689>>737633751>>737633947This is why you bring Eiko, so you can pull your own bullshit. The first time I fought Ozma, despite being underleveled for it, I won. Primarily because Pheonix triggered twice despite only having like 30 pinions on me.
>>737633961VIII isn’t really a plot driven game. It’s driven by vibes and emotions, and in that area, its second to none.
>>737633780Necron exists because the game's story was about everyone's cope sessions with existensialism. Kuja is just another character experiencing this, and beating Kuja doesn't really resolve anyone's main struggle. Vivi will still stop moving within about a year.They needed a villain who embodies all of this, so the characters can say that despite all that they still want to live.It just isn't very compelling when the themes of the game start attacking the player out of nowhere. He needed a bit of buildup, or he should have been Hades.
>>737634568No. NeoExdeath is just a bunch of spirits we knew he was composed of. We just thought he was in control as an amalgamation. He lost control, because the Void, which was well-established element of the story, was the second strongest ambiguous superpower in FF, and the spirits turned out to still be around now under the power of the Void and then we fight them. Nothing unclear here. It just sounds complicated, but in the moment it's clear.
I do not care about the lore or story of any single game on the planetnecron sucked because he was too easy
>>737635748You are a faggot. Simple as.>n-no I'm just here for da gameplayThe first ever video games tried to have more context to them than "just gameplay". Titles like Tennis for Two and Spacewar are attempts to give the game "lore" relative to the standard for the time. Your mental illness leaves you incapable of separating this concept from the design of a modern movie game.
>>737629573>>737632475But Vivi is my favorite character :(
>>737636484vivi is a kike though
>>737636535Nuh uh he doesn't have a nose.
>>737636730they had to be subtle
>>737636923I need to look into this.
>>737636329didn't read, stay madffix is ass
>>737633335You are the soi wojak
>>737632239I knew about the gimps 20 years ago, but didnt have the internet, and didnt think itd be this big thing cause i figured others figured it out too
