at what point do you start listening to user feedback?
Why on earth would you listen to chinks?
>change door>it's now actually the easiest boss>this makes the chinks (and ONLY chinks) lose their mind for some reasonI legit don't understand why
>>737631718because they made your 95% overwhelmingly positive game into 64% mixed?
>this kills the entire run
>>737631448when it's mostly in English
>>737631448There is a button to provide feedback for this game and it's not "submit review"
>>737631847But it's still 93% very positivechinks don't matter, they'll cry about any buffs and nerfs no matter how good or badWhen I've read the patch notes, they've been nothing but positivePlease tell me, what changes did they make that you thought were negative?
>>737631847literally does not matter
>>737631847Only if you manually set your Steam store preferences to not filter by language, or use Chinese only
>>737631448I care not for insectoid opinions
>>737631448
>hurting the feelings of the chinese people.com
Hopefully never. Fuck the vocal minority.
qrd?
>>737631847reviews don't matter
>>737632121The Chinese community is oddly butthurt about the game getting harder. The initial EA release was too easy, they then made the game harder and mostly China has gotten extremely mad over it. I really don't get it. If you look at the reviews from every other region they are positive.
>>737632121>game had an easy mode build that let you cheese it with zero effort>devs removed it>chinese players seethingthey can be ignoredthis makes them look very bad, very embarrassing meltdown
Even if they revert the doormaker changes those Chinese people won't change their reviews, so it's a moot point to try and react to the situation with emergency patching. For the developers it's better to just gather feedback and game stats from players, and do adjustments accordingly.>>737632121There were some game balance changes on a beta branch, and they went public recently. One notable change included a certain boss (doormaker), who basically did nothing before (just a raw numbers check, basically), and now has some unique mechanics. Those mechanics make the boss harder, and this triggered Chinese playerbase.
>>737632121game is too hard for the chinese, but they are a country of mobile game addicts so is anyone really surprised?
>>737632215> I really don't get it.chinese culture prioritizes taking the path of least resistance, if you don't do this they'll judge you and call you stupidtake away their easy mode cheese builds and you're forcing them to feel stupid by actually learning how to play the game
>>737631448lollmao
>>737631847And? No one cares about esl mutts
>>737632332how was he changed i haven't played much anymore after getting to a15
>>737632596The first turn doormaker does nothing (has infinite hp). The second turn and forward he starts doing one of three statuses in a set, looping pattern:>Hunger: Whenever you play an attack or Skill, it is Exhausted.>Scrutiny: You cannot draw additional cards during your turn.>Grasp: Whenever you play a card, lose 1 energy.Hunger I feel is the most noteworthy one since the general wisdom is to have fewer but more meaningful cards in your deck, though Scrutiny can effectively halt some decks too.
>>737632121basically chinese were too high iq and figured out how to do infinite builds (small decks with few cards where you can play infinitely and kill things in 1 turn), devs did a reactionary update where they nerfed/changed certain cards that gave card draw, energy and exhaust (that thins your deck), buffed mobs and elites that punished/countered multiple draw decks, and changed one of the final bosses to 100% negate infinite buildswestcucks here defend them, cause their foreskins were eaten the same way the doormaker eats your cards, so they are envious chinks have the balls to stand up for themselves
>>737632837op as shit wtf
>>737635135Ni hao, Chang
>devs finally pushes back against thin decks>torrential downpour of cryinglmao
>>737635585i'm just saying i haven't even played the game in weeks >>737632596
Gotta remember chinks are about a sixth of the worldwide population, so raids of large size with like-minded individuals are extremely easy to pull off
>>737631718FPBPBugmen have no worthwhile feedback. It's all the same 2-3 topics that have nothing to do with the game.
>"worldwide" web>it was actually just first world countries>it actually becomes unuseable when the world gets access to itIncredible stuff.
>>737631847We don't care, Shit Zu Lu. Everybody and their mother already knows about how thin-skinned and crybully Chinese are.
>>737632215According to some chinese guy, it's because they are used to much to p2w gacha games, that they can't cope with a game getting harder, withough the option of buying your way out of it.
>>737636102Yeah, they're using the same tactics 1:1, except they forget this is a singleplayer offline game (mostly), so doomposting and repeating DEAD GAME like a mantra does nothing.
>>737631448They have sound logic>Doormaker is a balanced boss and is in fact the easiest of all act 3 bossesHowever logic is not what makes a game fun, screw Doormaker. I stand with Chinese gamers.
>>737631937Any game could be 93% if you filter results like you do though, literally cherry picking
>>737631448Very niceNow lets see the English reviews
>>737631448If it's all feedback from dumbass chinese players, never
>>737631847gaben should just crack down on the chinks using VPNs to get out of their cucked steam version
>>737631448>User feedback>It's just a bunch of angry chinksuhhhh yeah
Corona virus made in China ok?
>>737637094Answer the question chang
Why the chinese specifically?
doormaker is still by far the easiest boss, but i miss his personality, the old concept of him hiding behind the doors and being like "what, you again???" when you break it down was hilarious
>>737637545huge population of actual entitled gamers
>>737637545They've finally found a way to voice their opinion without getting murdered / sent into a labor camp. I am honestly of the opinion they shouldn't even be allowed to leave reviews, they rarely even discuss the game itself and focus on some non-existant drama
>>737637545literal hive mentality because they are bug people
Do people actually enjoy fighting Doormaker?Like, ignore the statistics, reviews and Chinese, do you actually think his gimmick is fun?Two of your three turns for the fight fuck you over by massively limiting the number of cards that you can play with the first one also requiring you to burn your defense cards unless you want to eat massive amounts of damage.Zero downtime, zero counterplay besides praying RNG gives you powers, exhaust cards and 0 costs on specific turns, it just isn't a fight that I like.>>737637775Yeah I did like that, and it's kinda weird to me how they're trying to have lore in this game but they'll just totally scrap and change the boss' personality on a dime. The last iteration where he exhausted every 10th drawn card gave him that endless hunger personality, but now he just doesn't have anything.
>>737637945The only one that annoys me is the extra energy consumption one. The other two states you can play around easily enough, but end boss dmg and being energy limited is a bit rough.
>>737637945I think the fight is more fun that it was before, the energy cost round is the only really punishing one, and that's more because of how limited energy relics are this time around. I would like to see him go back to hiding behind his door after each cycle though, even if it just draws the fight out.
>>737636541they never nerfed timer eater despite years of little bitches screaming about their shitty shiv decks being stomped
>>737631448When the "feedback" isn't chinks crying about how their "solved" game is no longer solved.
>>737631927Do you really think the devs don't care that a huge chunk of their customers aren't happy? The Doormaker is not a hill worth dying on. They even acknowledge the boss has fundamental polarising issues.
>>737640114When you see Timeater you pivot and then have a lot of agency with its mechanic When you see Doormaker no amount of pivot will make the battle not feel like shit to play
>>737640718that is why you need to know if door maker is going to be your boss at the start of your run
>>737640840If you need to know that far in advance then he's clearly fucking broken, I dunno how to explain this in simpler terms. He warps your entire deckbuilding process to an unreasonable degree.
>>737637094He's not cherry picking. He's just filtering by the official language of the game. The review bombing campaign is just racist foreigners.
>>737632596is this a bot reply? a15 doesn't exist in sts2
>>737631823statistics showing the boss doesnt mean jack for a10 when it's a double boss fight, surviving the door fight with 10hp then immediately dying to queen or doggo right afteryou can't use the stupid success rates as a measure like that, devs are retarded for making that comment
>>737640993you don't think the developers, notorious data autists, don't bother to separate the data in order to reach their conclusions?
>>737640993retard-bro... those stats include doormaker as the 2nd boss as well
Maybe if they want to avoid review-bombing they could start making the game fun? Right now it is only fun for gambling addicts and metafaggots.I mean ffs, people who aren't familiar with this type of game will have a 10% winrate or even lower ON THE LOWEST DIFFICULTY. That is NOT good game design.
>>737631448For StS? Never, they tool around like they did with the first until they find the balance same as last time.
>>737640881>>737640840The problem is only going to get worse once act 4 is a thingImagine losing to the architect because you had to add filler to your deck just to deal with doormaker, supposedly the easiest act 3 boss
>>737641205there will be 6 act 3 bosses in total though i wonder if they'll make it so it's linear, like docks go to a separate act 3 than overgrowth from the start rather than each being randomized, so you're not planning for too many things
>>737631823Where can I see those stats? I want to check the W/L ratio on A10 for Necro and Regent
>>737641138the game is easier than spire 1, though. is everyone on /v/ a shitter??
>>737631448i wouldn't release my game to multiple cultural markets simultaneously without serious localization efforts
>>737641378Yes. Most of these people haven't beat the heart once, but good luck getting them to admit it. It's Cuphead all over again. You should need to post a gameplay webm to participate in discussion about a game on the internet.
>>737632215If you've ever tried chinese mods almost all of them make you absurdly overpowered for some reason.
>>737631823The problem is you're conflating easiness and win rate. In turn based games the difficulty comes from the series of decision points you're presented with. Doormaker's biggest design fuck up is that he takes decision points away from you, and without decision points there's nothing you can truly call "skill".As a basic example, when you play Prepared you have to make a decision as to what you're discarding. His anti-draw phase stops the draws so when it comes to discarding you have less cards to choose from. Decisions have been restricted thus skill has been restricted.He's just really badly designed my man.
Megacrit gets all of my respect for simply releasing a fleshed out, expanded version of their game that sets the stage for more worldbuilding and engenders trust that StS wasn't a fluke and they can handle responsibly managing a budget. They could have done what the Sword of the Stars people did and fallen flat on their face, or the founder could have used the clout to hire naive grads and force them to work on remasters for easy profit like the guys behind Divekick.It's a real Charlie in the Chocolate Factory "you win by not being a colossally retarded sociopath" world out there.
>>737641138Maybe the game could use permanent boosts that you unlock as you play, like most roguelikes. Stuff like start the run with:>+5 max HP>1 potion>+50 goldThen turn off all those boosts starting at a certain ascension level
>>737635636>pushes backI mean they explicitly created the issue by removing all the energy relicsIt's not like some cheat or exploit, it's the natural consequence of card removal becoming far higher value when you're restricted to 3 energy
>>737637945I think Door is fun. At first I disliked the Exhaust gimmick but after playing a couple rounds it's actually pretty engaging to play around. He's not as interesting as Time Eater was but he's more engaging than Queen is by far
>>737637945I think it's more fun than the queen or the test subject at least.But all act 3 bosses are ass.
>Hmmm it's Doormaker's exhaust phase and he's dealing 35 damage...>Hmmm my only block cards are two Bulwark+...>Hmmm do I play them and not take damage...>Or do I not play them and take damage...>I could take some damage right now in the hopes of not taking that same amount of damage later...>Decisions...This is how stupid you sound.
>>737641378game has been pretty successful so it attracted loads of tourists that haven't played 1 most people don't take well when they're told it's their fault they're losing at the videogame
>>737631448>nyooo the weakest boss is too strong Retards, every last one of them. >>737632028My opinion of china has lowered once more.
>>737642029>they explicitly created the issue by removing all the energy relicsSts2 enemies already have much lower health and damage number than sts1 to compensate this.you can simply look at Mecha knight then compare it to the NemesisMecha Knight open with 25 -> do nothing -> 4 burns -> 45 damange, then loop back to do nothing (45 damage every 3 turns)Nemesis is, 5 burns, or 27 damage, or 45 damage, and Intangible every other turns. It basically deals 27 more damage per 3 turns cycle, burns more, and much harder to kill.
a10 numbers are mechanically skewed because everything folds to a big enough turn 1 alpha strike
>>737641138If you can't win on A0 then you should worry more about not accidentally swallowing your tongue than playing games.
>>737642761he has two more phases where he doesn't exhaust the cards you know so you either tank the hit to preserve your block generation or commit to killing him in less than two turns
>>737643325>Hmmm it's Doormaker's anti-draw phase and I drew all my draw cards...>Hmmm...
>>737631448the chinkraper doormaker claims another anon
>>737641593>Doormaker's biggest design fuck up is that he takes decision points away from youit's called friction and games need it if they want to be more than cozy "do whatever you want" slopevery single enemy in the game takes decision points away from youenemies attack often forcing you to defend for instanceenemies scale often forcing you to end the fights early with damage for instance
>>737643606Terrible comparison.
>>737643541i will now play your game
>>737643384just make a deck with no draw!
lobby doko
doormaker would be easier if he>didn’t exhaust cards>didn’t block my draw>didn’t take my energy away>didn’t go invuln turn 1>didn’t fuck my wife>didn’t cut trade routes to china>didn’t provide missile to iran>didn’t attack
>>737643643it's an apt comparison when you understand the mastery in the game lies in anticipating what's aheadso when you see doormaker, you pad out your deck, shrimple as>>737643384>it's test subject phase 1 and I didn't draw any of my attacks!>it's literally any enemy that attacks and I didn't draw any defends!yes you can get unlucky but that is built into every encounter, not just doormaker
>>737637945Door feels like the only legit act 3 boss. The others are a joke.It's a problem with the game actually. Act 3 is super fucking easy. All the elites in act 3 need a buff.
>>737631448>OVERALL REVIEWS: Mixed (139,489 reviews)>Filters: Your Languages>Showing 55,886 reviews that match the filters above ( Very Positive )I always take user reviews into account, but that doesn't mean I give a shit if the devs somehow managed to hurt the feelings of the chinese people since that has nothing to do with the quality of the game.
>>737637945I don't think he's fun, no. If statistics say he's the easiest, I won't argue. I haven't fought him much, but he never felt unfair after his numbers got toned down.He's just boring.to me, and that matters more. If they could marry the new gimmick with the old, maybe it'd be more engaging.
the chinese are to gaming what the jews are to world politics
>>737643541Holy...
>>737632121>>737632305>>737633372unfortunately I am going to have to diagnose a nation of one billion people with skill issue
>>737644459>Reflect plus DiademYou didn't really beat the boss
>>737643541so that's where she went
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>>737631448User feedback or streamer-feedback?
>>737644459>turn two GY infinite such skill
>>7376447753/4
>>7376449253 more mins, will go with 3 if there's no one else
>Entomancer>Claw buildWow guess I'm bad for picking Claw on floor fucking 3.
>>737631448The fuck happened?
>>737631823>boss hard counters infinites I think this is bad design Both the other bosses do this to some extent, infinites aren't exactly free So why should there be a boss that hard counters this (valid) strategy in the game
>>737644459Just abusing the meta cards and relics such as SEVEN STARS and the relic that will make your minion strike deal double damage...
>>737632215>>737641547>for some reasonAn ant becomes a god
>>737645259The devs made enemies that hard counter certain cards and put them in places where you couldn't reasonably do anything about it.
>>737644915>boss does absolutely nothing turn 1>gets graveyard combo'd on turn 3how could this have happened
>>737631448Negative reviews are the only reviews I'll read, positive reviews are always too nice, overlook problems, or are just memesWith a negative review you get completely honesty on every problem present and gives you the proper expectations
>>737645316???infinites still work on himsee >>737644459
>>737637945I'm a high cost card enjoyer and rarely add more than 3 or 15% of decksize total in zero cost cards.So phase 2/3 aren't that bad as a 20-30 decksize chad.
>>737645610Extremely specific infinite. Requiring cards out of the general card pool. Extremely lucky and wasn't even possible until last patch The doormaker is the anti infinite boss. He's there to make sure there's no infinites happening at all from regular deck building.
>playing vampire crawlers>having infinitely more fun that you fagsslay the spire is an ok game but I never cared enough to actually buy it. idk why you thought the next one would be good
>>737641894people like you are the reason why so many modern games suck, meta progression like that would literally kill the game
How do I respond without sounding mad?
>>737646071You post something about Chinese players being in the wrong for leaving bad reviews.
>>737646071damn this game is fucking ugly
>>737643904I don't think any enemy in either game has this type of "hmm well yes get fucked actually" as doormaker has on its "you can't draw cards" turn.Yes, enemies have to punish deck strategies. Hunter killer punishes card spam, queen punishes the opposite (no card draw), test subject punishes slow decks. And old spire 1 bosses punished spamslop, powerslop and slow decks too. But even with those encounters there's micro and macro decisions you can take in every single turn. Even if you're getting hit for a buttload of damage or can only play 1/3 bound cards, at least you get to pick which one.On the "can't draw cards" turn, if you pull all your card draw you are legitimatelly and unironically fucked and have to pass with no existing counterplay. Decreasing the consistency of your deck (so you die faster to the other characters) or choosing to not play draw cards becasue you may get doormaker 2 acts from now on aren't good answers to that scenario caused by his gimmick.Hm yes let me NOT pick this offering and these two battle trances on my big bonk deck in case I draw all three of them in the "can't draw cards" turn against the doormaker. Oh fuck I just drew all of them and am taking 40 to the face! Noice!What strategy are we punishing even. Drawing cards? That's not a strategy, that's a game mechanic.>Exhaust turn prevents the fight from taking too long and asks for smart resource management. The drawback can be used to your advatange. Great idea.>The energy turn kind of stings but I understand it's meant to prevent cardslop spamming (funnily enough silent rapes him in this phase)But what are we preventing by disabling drawing cards. Cycling through the deck? Infinite combos? That's already targeted by both of the other phases. It's a big fuck you that punishes random deck order permutations just like his first redesigned gimmick (the one that ate every 10th card).I'll still trust the process and hope they'll figure the boss out eventually.
>>737631448Why don't we just nuke China, Russia and India? It'd literally solve all the problems of the world.
>>737645863wanna hear something funny?that infinite only worked because doormaker was stopping additional drawnormally the brightest flame would clog the hand and end the combo
gamble-slop
I've seen bad seeds but by far this is the worst yet, I hope someone will try it out and actually beat act 1 >Underdocks(how much I hate that fucking act)>barely any fires>fights, fights, fights, fights>no late shops>all relics are shop relics>start path left is basically all skills without any attacks for elitesI have no idea how I even got to boss or got to his stupid suicide attack
>>737637775I thought the old one was going to eventually emerge out of the door and rape you but unfortunately not
>>737646735damn I fucking love six fights in a row with one unknown in between (it's also a fight) in all paths before any fires
>>737637945I've not had any special problems with doorman>Hunger Just play your exhaust/power cards and some strikes and blocks, maybe a good card if you will take a lot of damage>ScrutinyI usually don't draw that many cards and he doesn't deal a lot of dmg so it's a breather>MightIt's a bit like hunger in that I play fewer cards but it's not really a big deal, I often have a lot of 0 costs that can be played no matter what
>>737645359I actually bought the minion relic :^)Begone!+ is like Armaments+ but better
>>737631718Why are they so mad? Did the game add skeletons or something?
>>737647046>>Hunger >Just play your exhaust/power cardsDoormaker counters innate powers by making you wish you'd drawn them turn 2.
just me or is creative ai a lot worse in sts2?
>>737647383On the other hand, free setup
>>737631718
>>737647523No bird-faced Urn makes it worse, but the existence of cards like Subroutine make it better.Ultimately Echo Form and Buffer are still in the game, as is Mummified Hand, therefore Creative AI is good. Storm still exists too. The only loss is Heatsinks but that was arguably bad to have in some contexts. I feel like 0-cost spam decks are also way stronger and those are great to transition into Power decks from, which somehow makes up for the Focus nerf and loss of spammable Biased Cog. Basically Power is still good, but not necessarily as strong with Orbs as it used to be.My first A10 Defect win was a Claw/Status into Creative AI power spam deck. It was a very easy win.
>>737648005Creative AI isn't good. It's only playable behind a wall of block and with lots of energy, and without Defragment at uncommon and boss energy relics it's just too hard to pull off now.
>>737645316i think the current version of him jobs to infinite afaik, but generally i agree yeah. its the same as time eater in sts1. its just unfun to have one specific archetype hard countered by a boss you randomly do or dont encounter.the solution to infinites is just make them fucking hard to pull off. if an infinite is as uncommon as a corruption dead branch or shiv ninja relic deck or whatever then who gives a shit if it bodies everything? and in sts1, aside from watcher, that feels like more or less where infinites were (which made time eater all the more bullshit)the problem is that in sts2, energy generation is moved to cards instead of relics, which makes infinites easy as fuck to pull off
>>737631448they already have their money so what do they care
>>737647523>>737648005subroutine is nice for it but the big loss for me is heatsinks. no draw massively limits what the archetype can do in a short space of time and forces it into a much slower-scaling role which isnt that much use in some fights (unless you have the relic thats just heatsinks)
>>737640919the official language of the game is Chinese as Mega Crit are based in Seattle
post em
>>737632028why are the chinks mad at slay the spire II?
DOORMAKER FUCKING ATE THE CONNECTION
>>737644775random disconnectionrehosting : steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243032658008/76561198102069257
>>737648528Taiwan is mentioned in the credits
>>737648094>Creative AI isn't good. It's only playable behind a wall of block and with lots of energy, That was the case in STS1, though?In STS2, Defect has Supercritical and his Turbos are better due to more status synergy. 0-cost cards are also just better overall.Maybe you can't rely on Frost Orbs as much but that's an issue of Focus builds being worse, not Power builds.
>>737648338Wrong. Chinese players will always be secondary to the official playerbase.
>>737631448When you start taking money from users.
>>737631937>>737637094It's literally just a Chinese problem. I don't care if they're mad.Steam allowing us to filter by language has already solved this problem.
Chinese are only useful for producing Silent porn. Outside that I don’t give a fuck what they think
>>737645864it's like skyrim. okay without mods but you didn't really play the game
>>737648674seattle is ccp territory therefore megacrit is a ccp developer
>>737648596Based, fuck chinks
>>737648907just turn the volume down lil bro
>>737631448The original chinkout was justified.
>>737649014Seattle using h1b slaves to save money on wages doesn't make it Chinese. Weird cope.
>>737649087Yeah this was outrageous. Prepared is super strong in this game but you don't balance the game by doing this trash.
GG. That damage number is like 90% Stampede Bludgeon.
>ALL DRAW EFFECTS ARE REDUCED BY 1JUST REPLACE THE DOORFAGGOT'S SECOND "PHASE" WITH THISTHEY AREN'T EVEN PHASES BTW THEY'RE JUST TURNS WITH NO WINDUP, THEY JUST FUCKING HAPPEN
GG I felt like everyone was firing on all cylinders. Multiple Orbits is fucking hilarious.
>>737648542>>737648546GGclean door, clean test subject.
honestly i’m with the great nation of China on this one guys, doormaker is truly overpowered and they took away our only way of beating him (2 card infinites)
>I'm designed to stop infinit comb-ACK
nice hand game, pretty cool
>>737650719at least it's in exhaust turn and you have FNPjust play 4 of it for 16 blocks, end the turn with 36, not a problemI'm more concerned about how you dealt 0 damage for 4 turns before this. the fuck is wrong with your deck?
>>737650719Wow did you seriously play BLOCK CARDS when the enemy was ATTACKING??? ARE YOU STUPID LMAOOOOOOO!!!
I've come to realize I prefer singleplayer on A2 and multiplayer on A10. Any remotey high ascension, really. Getting less resources doesn't feel as unfun since the burden is split between multiple people, and even a shit deck can pivot into support.
>>737651059had to finesse through the early game because of low health, but I managed to pull through
>>737651194wow, that's impressive. gg
>>737651194>38 damage>While preventing you from playing cards>And scalingI think the Chinks are right about this one.
I made a card to appeal to the chinese
>>737631448Here's my feedback:Devs should stop supporting chink moonrunes and Valve should ban China from Steam.
>>737651421jojo coral can still kill you, literally unplayable
>>737651739>ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
>>737631847What are their feelings hurt about now? Did the game call Taiwan a country or something?
>>737651739The upgrade gives you +1 intangible.
>>737651739which jojo is colony supposed to be?
>>737651160multiplayer in A10 feels about right, right now.-small chance to fail if everyone gets nothing, winnable most of the time.-weaker player get to be useful if they hit a strong multiplayer card (like the bacon of hope)-stronger player get to fully unleash their combo, the boss is beefy enough to eat it without dying prematurely.-potion feels good because you can throw it to the appropriate users-relic chest feels good because you get to see 4 of it because distribute. everyone will be much more likely to get what they want-some useless cards become more useful-some okay ancient reward like Golden Compass become god tier because it provides extra chest, which equal to 4 more relics and a shitload of money to the team (that we can choose to pick what) at a cost of 1 ancient relic. (Calling Bell is 3 relics and a curse btw)the dev want the game to be harder at A10, I'm skeptical aboout it for single player. but that's very welcomed in multiplayer.
>>737631448>no steam achievementsthese guys suck ass brah
>>737652173It's early access, they aren't going to add them until the game is finalized.
>>737632215Implement the EA difficulty and call it Chinese Mode.
>>737652172How does the Golden Compass work on multiplayer?A single player gets it and everyone plays on the new map?
>>737652968yes. everyone gets the full benefit of it.
>>737648596lmao
Why is Arsenal such ass? You don't need the extra strength in Colorless Regent. Guess it makes sense for the Gilgamesh card to have an impractical "win more" effect.
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>>737649087Wait what the fuck? So they shitfucked one of the most fun and strong cards into one of the most useless unfun shit cards? Fucking hell jesus christ
>They will not climb the mountain, they will ask for the mountain to be smaller
>>737631847so if someone just started screaming at you in real life you'd start doing what they were telling you to do?
>>737631448He's making a game based on pure rng and is arguably one of the base games (the first one) that revived the RNG slop genreHe listened once and we got the slop from streamers that use seeds and then spend an hour per fucking battle talking about 'tactics' and 'wow I had no idea this would happen'He's just a scammer
>>737631847Chinks bitching about something is a vouch for the game to anyone with a brain.
>>737656130Yes anon, it's pure RNG. Just like poker.you should come play poker with me and the boys at some point, you'll have as good a chance as us to win =)
>>737656130You really believe streamers curate and train/memorize seeds just to win and post ebin youtube videos?Would they really do that?
>>737656541Jorbs admitted as much years ago but then stop mentioning it pretending it was all real timeIt's less training and more just running through the game to see what they get (seeds can just be exported and shows what cards/relics/etc are).>>737656487Poker is a mixture of basic human interaction and card counting
>>737648405>Crutch-gentYou did not finish the game
>>737631448The beta branch said it adjusted the scaling for multiplayer artifact/slippery. Does anyone have the before and after numbers?
Aren't they just bitching about the localization? Just like /v/ and yunyun
>>737657447Nevermind
>>737631718those dumb chinks, if they don't like the game, just stop playing it
>>737657434It used to be base * ((players - 1) * 2 + 1). So 3x in 2 man and 7x in 4 man. It was cancer, mecha hitler had 21 artifact and vantom had 63 slippery.now it appears to just be base * players but idk for sure.
>>737632028>>737632046oh no the chinks are mad, no one cares lmao
>>737652172Doom and Poison need their numbers fixed first
>>737654695Your Lunar Blast? Your Celestial Might?
>>737637545they ate too much insects in their diet, so they turned into bug people
>>737658579that sounds like the backstory of a throw-away One Punch Man monster.
hostansteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243047429372/76561198313476004
>>7376587213/4
>>737654695Arsenal is complete ass without Crash Landing and insanely broken and fun with Crash Landing
>>737646280you forgot "the chosen people"
>>737658721giving it another minute or two and then we go just with 3, that ok?
>>737631448Not after they already paid you.
How do I draft my hand to avoid the most horrible draws possible? Serious, honest question.I think 90% of my losses are from getting all attacks on damage turns and all defends on buff turns, so I just lose 40 health out of nowhereI know the pros don't have this issue and I don't fucking know how
>>737659614card draw, energy, relics, potions and cards that let you manipule your deck like headbutt
>Preserved fog is now only remove 3Lol why. Chastity cage was already severely underwhelming as a boss relic in 1 (and now with target fire nerfs at infinites even worse in 2) and preserved fog is WORSE because it's only a net -2 that replaces a strike/defend with an even worse card in a curse.
>>737659614don't fill your deck with too much trash and remove strikes
>>737632215>The Chinese community is oddly butthurt about the game getting harderThat's the culture. China loves review bombing games when the difficulty increases. Many such cases.
>>737632215>I really don't get it.Chinese culture prioritizes winning over literally everything. If you can cheat, do it. If you need to copy someone, do it. If you need to sabotage the competition, do it. How you achieve victory is irrelevant, only that you do so. As such, a game becoming more difficult is seen exclusively as a bad thing, they don't think about the nuance of "balance" for a second, they just know that they're now winning less and that is bad.
>>737649014Seattle is close to Canada but not quite within it, so no.
>>737657709Thanks. Been trying to find the numbers. It’s kinda crazy that the multiplier really was that high before the beta. I haven’t found anything on the new scaling, but I’ll hold your word for it and try to keep an eye on the current numbers in the meantime.
Honestly, since a bad draw determines the difference between wining with ease and losing miserably, I've begun treating the game more like a puzzle, doing restarts to determine optimal draw manipulation
>>737659614Luck is a skill
>>737646280They know that. Which is why they have nukes themselves.
The fucking Queen used bound on the connection
bruh
My headcanon is that the Queen offered herself to the party in exchange for her life and that couldn't be depicted in the game without changing the age rating.
Rehost?
>>737662745lemme trysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243052237895/76561198313476004
>>737662852GGCalamity is such a stupid power
ggGetting Break makes me wish I'd taken Spite, 30+ vuln is comical but has diminishing returns
Eradicate in act 1 from a hallway fight was gg ez even a10
decisions decisions decisions...
>>737663837Footwork is always the best vest choice, even if you already have multiple copies of it
>>737656742>Jorbs admitted as much years ago but then stop mentioning it pretending it was all real timesurely you have a source or a clip for that?
>>737663837You don't really need Footwork in StS2, I'd pick Backflip all day erry day
>>737655915hey stupid retard FAGGOT, that was just a proposed beta change that did not "shitfuck" into the main version.
>>737664713Watch his twitch from about 6 years ago Wait, no, sorry. You can't since the faggot deleted it.I'm assuming you'll do the playbook now since your response was exactly the same as the last 50 times
>>737665087>I'm assuming you'll do the playbook now since your response was exactly the same as the last 50 timesbuddy you should take your schizophrenia down at least two notches
>>737665271>anime posteryup, stage 2 on the plancarry on - you can have the last word
>>737631448>it's just last evil without the succubus sexShame.
>>737632028China is a 50/50 split between people who want everything to be baby easy mode and need a cheat mod for every game they play, and hardcore tryhards.
>>737641138The devs said in an interview the winrate at A0 is around 30% so if you have a 10% winrate you are mathematically a shitter
yup, doormaker is just the time eater of STS2, it's pure archetype hate meaning that for some decks it's a walk in the park, and for others a guaranteed loss
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243057514580/76561197997192985come play unless you are scared of the doorman exhausting your cards
>>7376671392/4 doorman divers
>>737667139I think the other thread is the one with people who play the game
