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Where's the Mewgenics thread? That fat fuck Bunga just ate my Pyrophina.
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balance patch predictions?
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>>737632442
>wanting balance in a single player game
steakmund fans continue to be pathetic
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>>737632529
he already announced a rebalance is coming for some of the classes whether people want it or not
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>>737632603
I'm gonna kms if he touches ranger or fighter
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>>737632529
>>wanting balance in a single player game
Name one thing wrong with that.
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People are rushing to finish the game before the balances to show how tuff they are, but isn't it more impressive to beat the game post-nerf?
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Guys, I don't know if I should keep this mouth mutation. The benefits of double bruises are undeniable, but this thing looks unbearably ugly
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>>737632360
Me on the right after beanies gives me bubble boy instead of party detonator
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What's that smell coming from?
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>stop running for a minute
>we can finally find infinity
How does the fat act 1 vore cat of all characters know of God's realm being the infinite and that you can go there?
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>>737633698
Best song in the game. Sorry Flush fans.
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>>737633698
Ooh I never even thought about that
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>>737633793
...but enough about So High
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Why is Loose Meat treated like a disorder? Or did my kitten inherit 2 passives at birth? I thought that wasn't possible
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>mini me with schizophrenia
I hope nothing one shots me in the middle of my solo run, haha.
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How does Mother's description in even the slightest of ways to what she does? It feels like Edmund really put his vagueposting hat on for this one because I've beaten her a couple of times and still don't get it
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>>737632529
Removal of known infinites. General nerf to ranger. General buffs to tinkerer mage and hopefully necro. Nerfs to certain paradites and zero choice run ending disorders. Buffs to dreanaughtus and other super easy late gsne bosses
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>>737632852
Their getting hit most. As well as certain monk skills
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>>737633698
God talks to her directly because he has that fetish
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Huh, somebody made a randomizer for Mewgenics already, neat.
https://www.nexusmods.com/mewgenics/mods/258
I kinda wanna try it out but I don't know how to mod Mewgenics without risking making my save incompatible when it comes to future updates.
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>RNGslop
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>>737633698
Someone had the theory that just like Mom I really hate you and Chaos this is one of the "plot" related songs and might be about the "other" Magdalene and her partnership with Benis before he bailed out and decided to look for an easier to handle version
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>>737637941
Oh right I forgot, Jonah 1:17
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>>737632852
Hunter is 100% getting nerfed because there's no fucking way it can continue melting house bosses in 2 turns.
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>>737637505
"Reclaim what's hers" is refering to how she'll eat shit you leave stuck in the tumors she spawns. I do agree that most of the descriptions starting from around the end of Act II onwards suck ass, there are several behaviors I just outright didn't know some enemy behaviors even existed until I encountered them over 150 hours in (like Mother being able to spawn Heralds/Heraldesses).
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>>737632442
>Flaming elite buff no longer makes enemies inmune to fire. Instead they take half dmg from that element.
>Enemy robots now take half dmg from electric damage instead of being inmune to it. They still receive the Energized buff when they are hit by that element.
These 2 are my hopes for the patch. It makes no sense that Mages and Tinkerers are nullified by late-game enemies this fucking hard
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I swear I'm not trying to humblebrag here, but I've been melting every single house boss that's showed up since Guillotina 1 in like 2 or 3 turns. The only one who managed to land a hit in one of my cats was Zaratana and her rock spit counters, and once instance of Pyrophina landing a fire breath attack.
Are all house bosses supposed to be like this, or is Marked just game breakingly overpowered? Have any of you guys actually had any problems with any of the act 1 and act 2 house bosses?
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>>737641460
wait until the act 3 house bosses bro
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>>737632852
>Marked: Incoming physical damage has 100% Crit Chance, ignores shield, and can't miss
>Magic Weakness: Incoming magic damage has 100% Crit Chance and can't miss.
What are the chances they DON'T nerf marked's shield piercing? Is there any chance at all they buff magic weakness instead?
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You can fully revive enemies by turning them into a zombies and then clearing the zombie status effect.
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>party detonator quest
>necro gets a parasite that spawns a 5hp louse when damaged right before boris
>boris tramples the necro, triggers a chain reaction that 100-0 the cat
>he was equipped with the detonator
nearly 50 hours and I finally got a certified edmund moment
I really gotta setup OBS game capture and get some editing software to save this kind of stuff
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>>737643404
>I really gotta setup OBS game capture and get some editing software to save this kind of stuff
Steam has clipping built-in.
Or Windows' game bar recording thing you get from Start+G also works. And both support retroactive clipping if you enable it.
If you're a linux pirate then I guess I have no advice for you.
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>>737642938
They need to buff magic in general. I don't think marked is too strong, at most they might nerf some of the stronger stuff that applies it.
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IS THAT A M-M-MEATBOY
AIEEEE TOMMY SAVE MEEEE
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>>737636082
Wiki says it's a bug, enjoy your rare edmund freebie
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>>737641065
>like Mother being able to spawn Heralds/Heraldesses
wait what the fuck
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>>737642938
>What are the chances they DON'T nerf marked's shield piercing?
Pretty good, honestly. Shield piercing is extremely important in mid and late game, especially bunker/core and future/end
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>>737644270
Don't forget
>piercing the 16 stacks of holy mantle on angels
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>first run towards the infinite
>get squirrel squad then team work
>the doom status from sneak attack counts towards team work passive
>free 5 dmg ups if they all end their turns and more if they kill something
thank you Butch for the synergy tips
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>>737644375
Oh yeah shield piercing ignores holy shield too.
I really wish more classes could apply it comsistently too, locking marked behind + upgrades is really unfortunate
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>>737644409
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>is the most balanced class in the entire game
Say something nice about it.
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>>737644647
>0 speed tank builds
So useless it's actually funny.
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>>737644647
Cat-a-pult and rockmancer tank are extremely fun, would recommend
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>>737644647
Favorite class to put Running Jab on
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>>737644641
>it ain't meow starts playing
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>Psychic's Drag passive on a Butcher
I love this game
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>>737646614
What does that do?
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I wish tamed Pyrophina did her victory dance whenever you win a battle
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>>737644647
Shoving Match is my favourite tank passive.
It basically makes every shitty knockback spell into "give a unit +1 bonus attack"
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>Huntershills seething that their "S-Tier" class is gonna get nerfed.
lol lmao. Normal difficulty fags really think they deserve a say on game balancing
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I picked it up again after a month away and I realized I'm bad
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>>737647209
When you knockback a unit, they take damage for each tile they move. Butcher's hook pull counts as knockback.
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>>737644641
For me it's summon baby squirrel and suicide bomber, these child soldiers shall have glory through jihad, mashallah
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>>737648183
I wonder if picrel works as well.
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>>737644647
The Neverstone GOAT
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>>737644647
It's honestly too balanced, I rarely feel the desire to run a Tank even though there's plenty of objectively worse classes. Runningjababusers need not reply.
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ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME
WHAT
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>>737648894
complete control over it btw
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>>737648894
>interacts with Steven event
>gets shocked when it gives the Steven disorder
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>>737648894
>Steven
I always try to ignore that event a max of 2 times to try to dodge the negative outcome
>Severe Deja Vu
Wait, Wtf? Isn't it Deja Vu? You are utterly fucked lol
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>>737649082
I LITERALLY TRIED TO WALK AWAY THOUGH
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>>737648894
you WILL chew slowly
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>>737649143
If you fail walking away three times you get deja vu from that (and can't walk away).
If you then fail the event itself, it gives deja vu, but you already have it, so it gets upgraded.
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>>737649198
>trying to run away from Steven rape
You were literally asking for it
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>Turn a cat born with Squirrel Form into a Monk because of 2 attacks = 2 squirrel buff
>Get Fist of Fate
>Upgrade it
>Now it just zooms around the map singing and giving every squirrels +10 damage and speed every time I use it
A weird but funny synergy that surprisively works well
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>>737649198
if you ignore it and fail the hidden roll 2 or 3 times (i always forget the exact number) it always gives you dejavu
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>>737648894
>>737649143
>>737649356
It's shit like that that makes it impossible for me to take Mewgenics seriously as a skill-based game

You could beat TBOI with no items if you were just good enough at dodging

Sometimes Mewgenics will just strip all agency from the player and guarantee a loss because it's funny
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>>737649568
Regular deja vu isn't going to end a run. Walking away three times is a misplay.
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SWEET DELICIOUS
SWEET DELICIOUS
SWEET DELICIOUS
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>>737648894
reminder that Edmund somehow had no clue that deja vu (let alone severe deja vu) can be inflicted from an event.
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>>737648605
explosives enjoyers when the magic immune enemy walks into the encounter (all explosions are magical in nature according to edmundus the creator)
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>>737648701
It just doesn't do a whole lot.
>Tankiness
The further you go in the game, the more consequences there are for being hit beyond damage. Body Guard is still great though.
>Rocks
Don't scale. Easily used against you.
>Knockback
Doesn't scale, rarely useful with movement ranges being what they are.
>Speed/movement sacrificing abilities
Dogshit.
>Immobilize
Good.
>Petrify
Good.
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Is Zaratana/Pyrophina helpful when they're on your side or detrimental? I never pick AI controled anything and I'm worried about the escort mission
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>>737650080
they try their best
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>>737650080
They barely attack and most of the time just get in the way.
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>>737650080
They mostly wander around. Don't put your cats between them and a nearby enemy.
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>>737649143
I managed to get back to the house thank god
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Guillotina x Lucy toxic yuri
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>>737650080
Phina was genuinely a delight. She killed enemies if they were in range and wasted enemy attacks with her 600 HP.
>muh trample
If your party can't take 3 damage sometimes, they were never going to get far. One of my cats got a cursed hairball that gave it poison 3 every battle which is equivalent to getting trampled every turn and it was a nothingburger.
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>>737649925
Basically anything with an element on it is magical, and if not it's physical.
But also blocks instakills, and there's some hidden elements too :)
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my Catch! Hunter got possessed my Dybukk recently
you learn a lot of what counts as a projectile when you really don't want to
Butcher hooks, for example
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>>737651503
As that other anon said Dybukk is a win win, you either come back with a victory or with a good lesson
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>>737651503
>Butcher hooks
I admit I would not have expected that either.
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>>737651126
I understand it in principle and I can see the logic behind it, but I disagree with it. An explosion isn't really damaging you via fire (which seems to be the conceit in this game since all fire immune enemies are also immune to explosions), though they can often involve fire. Most of the damage caused by explosives like grenades and bombs is the physical effects of the event like the shockwave and shrapnel and debris. Maybe you could make an argument for shockwaves to be an elemental damage type (sound?), but I will not accept any kind of reasoning that puts shrapnel and debris into an elemental/magical context. It's just mundane shit moving really fast. If you made that argument, you would have to concede that the hunter is using magic when shooting arrows at people, which is ridiculous.
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>>737651618
Why does bbuk have a vagina
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>>737651503
Butcher hooks being projectiles is decent though, it means you can hook onto a reflecting enemy to draw your butcher in to hit them
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What's a good build that involves crippling my cat with Paraplegic with?
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>>737651750
Because he's a huge cunt
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>>737651934
CATLOS!
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>>737651618
Anyone else have the humiliation ritual of stripping gear off your cats before Dybbuk's fight in case he doesn't possess the one you want
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>>737651713
I'm just going to assume it's associated with the shockwave. That tends to be how explosions are depicted as damaging things in fictional media.
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>>737651750
I know you're joking but if you want a genuine answer I think he's supposed to be spayed
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>>737644647
I've used it in nearly half of my runs, love me dat Barbed Wire
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>>737652514
Not with jew devil cat, but I do with God
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>>737653042
Does dybbuckbroken possess mini me cats?
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>>737651878
Hunter w/ Take Aim or Tank w/ My Leg!
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>>737651750
>>737652842
It's a y-incision that is usually done for autopsies.
Ed uses it a lot on undead characters.
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>>737632529
i can TELL your ass did not play afterbirth on release or you would not be saying this
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>>737653089
He does, and he often ends up prioritizing them because with their halved stats it's a good chance they have the lowest HP. it's why whenever I go into Act I with a Mini-Me cat/roll it during Alley I always go the Boneyard route.
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Why did he do it?
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>>737653089
Yes. The issue is setting it up so that the mini me actually gets the final blow. Dybbuk will possess ANYTHING that is a cat. That includes summons like Tom Toms.
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>>737637750
>General buffs to tinkerer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxUmxLba03g
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>>737653547
That butcher passive doesn't feel so hot with a sniper rifle when your enemies can reflect projectiles.
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>>737653627
When it works, it works.
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>>737653535
Down it :)
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>>737653901
Dyb only goes for the lowest HP cat if he runs out of HP due to something without an obvious "owner" like fire.
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>>737653901
Friendly fire will NOT be tolerated.
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>>737653532
>I told you not to fcuk with time bro
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>>737653547
Zodiac 2
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>>737637750
Okay so I'm going to amend the original posters statement.

>nerfing anything in a single player game

Buff tinkerer, don't nerf ranger. Just because your favorite class isn't strong (YET) doesn't mean (You) have to hope everyone else has less fun.
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>>737654115
It's highly probable that Ranger will actually receive some buffs. I think that the problem is that he has a few extremely game breaking abilities and a bunch of stuff that is completely pointless. I could see buffs coming to the less used Hunter passives and abilities.
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>>737654613
Survivalist should let you equip items from your backpack if they're consumed, as is it's underwhelming and I feel sorry if you open that as your first passive
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>>737654613
I agree (holy fuck do traps need buffs) but I still wouldn't be surprised if Scatter Shot specifically gets targeted. It's just an extreme outlier.
Similarly boy do Druid's other familiars need literally anything to make them worth using.
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>>737653532
Hot
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>>737655138
I feel like a problem with druid's familiars' usability lies in how in this game speed is one of the most important stats and some of them, like turtles and bears, are painfully slow
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Can anyone give me critique on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH0TY00cfAA
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>>737632442
merciless only procs on basic attack, scatter shot has less projectiles, rubber arrows decreases the damage dealt on each bounce, repair no longer removes worn, cursed items become worn and can break, nail flurry only counts the dex amount when the attack starts
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>>737655557
Squirrels fulfill the role of glass cannons. 1 HP by default, multi-hit that goes well with Druid's inherent damage buffs even without squirrel form. Also fast as fuck, meaning you can summon them from safe locations.
Snakes are glass without the cannon. Damage over time is underpowered.
Frogs... I don't know how you build for frogs. Hooking is very situationally useful.
Turtles are tanks, but they're shit at it because they can't keep up with your front line. They also fall over in the face of any damage over time because their hp is all shield. (Why????)
Bears are mana-hungry, slow, trample your units, and get completely fucked by any battlefield obstacles due to being 2x2 (which makes the low speed even worse).
Caterpillars are okay, but need something else to get them online faster because no battle should last 5 rounds. Which makes their sleep ability mostly useless; you want CCs when there's more enemies, not fewer.
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>>737656131
Also From The Trees is better than pretty much every "raw" druid summon ability because, for 2 mana more, it puts the familiar right on the enemy's ass from safety.
And does damage! And lets you activate Wild Animals! And can summon EXTRA CROWS!
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>>737655597
S'cool, I'm surprised more people haven't done isaacguru/slayxc2 styled videos for mewgenics
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>>737656630
resummon crow+ can give from the trees a run for its money, but only just barely. having lots of crows is undeniably powerful, especially if you've pumped your druid's constitution
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>>737655557
They should always get a bonus turn after the druid's, that'd improve things a lot. Maybe squirrels could be nerfed a bit to compensate since they're currently already strong.
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>>737655597
I thought this was going to be slop but you put more effort into the presentation than I expected, not bad. Good luck considering there's 200 enemies in the game.
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I heard Maggy can be seen on the title screen wandering around in the background, BS or nah?
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>>737656131
You're incentivized to finish battles fast, those summons despawn after battle so squirrels having low hp ends up barely being a problem specially with how spammable they are
Plus druid has many ways to fix a squirrel's negative of being glass canons (empty vessels, super friends, protection, etc) but other summons don't quite have the same for being slow on the roll
Thus there's a massive gap in how good a familiar is between squirrels and other ones
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>>737656131
I don't know how helpful this is but frogs have a jump movement action so they can go over tiles that would instantly shred a 1hp familiar
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>>737632360
>he didn't choose rock turtle cat
bad taste
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>>737641460
Marked is game breakingly overpowered.
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>DOUBLE U- M-E- DOUBLE U
>WHERE THE LITTERBOX IS ALWAYS FUL!
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>>737658567
Close.
But it's not Maggy.
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>>737662169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fcacA-iM2c
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>>737657363
Resummon Crow is insanely good.

On every class that isn't Druid.
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>>737662921
Fuck I didn't even think about that.
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Edmund confirms the best songs, flush fans confirmed true music connoisseurs
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>>737663303
fleas and parasites was always my favorite radio song, reminds me of THD
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>>737632852
Those aren't the ones are worried about being touched. Its Monk being nerfed thats got me worried
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>>737633161
keep him, you can breed the mouth off for future generations
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>>737663303
>guy that adds tons of poop into his games likes the poop song the most
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>>737663303
>Fleas and parasites
Holy fucking based, I teared up a bit waking up on release day and seeing the gameplay trailer that included this song. I make sure to stop and listen any time it's on the radio
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>>737648894
And its severe. Thats absolutely the worst outcome of that event.
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>>737632442
hopefully they make electricity not shit
but I know for a fact they'll just make it even worse and a free turn buff for 90% of enemies
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>explosions count as fire damage
GAY
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>737653532
lazy writing/easy DLC setup
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Game tried to pull a GOTCHA! moment and succeeded at nothing
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>>737664985
The most vicious spectator.
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>>737644647
Breeding to the rescue on other cats is crazy good
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>>737663303
I think he likes it most just because it's the poop song. He's extremely juvenile and predictable.
It is a good song though.
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>doing a Moon run
>prober probes my fighter because I'm an idiot and did not position properly
>This Charm lasts until the Charmed cat takes damage.
>"Okay, deal. Psychic, go ahead and use your basic attack on him."
>doesn't work
>"what"
>use Telekinesis
>doesn't work
>"What"
>use Cumulative Blast
>doesn't work
>"WHAT"
>run out of mana, have to pass the turn
>fighter rapes my monk
>check the wiki
>B-Prober is a melee attacker. Backstabs from this unit inflict a special variety of Charmed that lasts until the next time the target takes damage.
>next time the target takes damage.
>"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO WHY ISN'T IT WORKING"
>in a panic, blast it with a full 10 damage basic attack from my hunter
>it snaps out of it
So apparently it has to specifically be physical damage that comes directly from a cat.
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Why did Beanis do it
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>>737663303
Fleas and Paradise is based. Flush not my first pick. I think this one of the games where it is hard for me to make a proper top 5. The game a lot of songs I'd run on repeat all day like Tuff, A Crack Of Doom, Lost Kitty of it is 't the ingame version, Sweet Delicious and the list goes on inclusing Flush.
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Does this work with Psychic's normal attack pull?
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this lets you use persuasion device twice per battle fun
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>>737666712
nvm yeah it works
unfortunately, it does NOT stack with sensory overload
this fucking sucks, i wanted 30 damage Telekinesis
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>>737632442
There are so many game breaking synergies in the game I honestly don't care what the nerfs change.
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Never saw this item before.

I thought my Fighter had Exert along with a whopping 12 Cha but it turns out that it was just his bonus eye skill the first battle, woulda been pretty slick.
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>>737668074
>Do a run where I pull this while I had a fighter with exert and a cleric with cleanse so I kept going off
>wiped (first wipe ever) because Dybukk possesed my hunter and it got all my team killed so I lost this alongside a lot of goodly items
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>tags: netorare
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>>737668641
Well that fighter rolled merciless so my run is won.

But this Butcher boy just rolled vurp the battle before Bunga and Bunga drops this in my lap.

Would be interesting if anyone else ever got a turn for some reason.
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>>737669080
And if that pill doesn't work I always have the Star, and what's more I finally got a bone armor that isn't dogshit - look upon it.

Never had such a blessed run as this.
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goodbye, tess
one of the best damn damage sponges I've ever seen
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>>737670035
The bravest kitty cat I've ever known
>>737664798
Another reason not to use Tinkerer in higher difficulties
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I got a silly necromancer death strat going:
Necro A has death shroud, neck wrap, sacrificial lamb
Necro B has absorb soul
Necro B uses absorb soul on Necro A, and Necro A gets downed but takes no injuries, gains a random permanent stat gain from death shroud, gives allies an extra turn and all stats up from sacrificial lamb, then revives at end of round with neck wrap allowing the process to repeat every round
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>>737664798
>put elemental types in the game
>literally none of the enemies in the game are weak to any of them
>but lots of enemies are completely immune to them
cool game ,ed
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>>737670035
god fucking damn this music is bopping
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BUT MAN DO I SMELL
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>>737670805
To savescum this part I just need to abort the game if I see my cat lose all its armor, right?
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>>737671082
It's pretty foolproof, just don't skip the animation. Even if you don't notice the armor being gone, there are several seconds dedicated to your cat being killed during which you can press alt f4
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>>737670542
There's some better versions but the items they use might be rarer.

There's Frankenbolts and Clown Make-up - you don't NEED absorb soul etc. as it gives 2 additional stat ups per down through Clown Makeup so you're working at a stat profit. The only thing you need is a source of electric element damage.
Frankenbolts allow rezzing with electricity damage so if sacrifical lamb can proc multiple times this can literally be cycled on the same round, and if you lucked into an absorb soul cat with bolt etc. You could just statmax till you got bored on round 1.

You can forego Frankenbolts if you have a rez spell, really all it needs is the other two. In that case you would probably want the Stunning Chain, it won't dupe make up but it'll give an additional stat up. The main benefit of Frank Bolts is that they rez you at 1 HP so you can kill them with one more use of the spell, meaning you can just spamcast bolt half as many times per turn as mana allows (and given you're gaining that much Int per turn this quickly becomes many, many times), which would make it better on the basis that you could spam it longer before you got bored.

There's a better version of Frankenbolts that allows it with any damage but it's superlategame. Wiki might say it's nonfunctional? Not sure.
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>>737665539
s'cool
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>>737671190
I'm positive that one time the armor was on my cat and he got chomped by CHAOS.

Looking back, it was probably cursed items.
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>>737670595
Plant enemies receive more stacks of burn from fire spells
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>>737670595
undead get damaged by holy heals
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>>737670595
Flying units get immobilised by gravity
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>tfw you get a bonkers setup and rape act 3 to death

I'm blending my steak and chugging it in one gulp at this point
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>>737671793
Latent Energies is the only Mage passive that makes magic damage viable.
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>>737664093
Monk is fine steakmund leave him alooooone
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Beat the Creator on Hard for the first time.
>wanted to do an odd team composition to get completions, so I brought an overkill team; sniper rifle tinkerer and persuasion device horde
>forgot (again) that my Necro got Blood Frenzy in the Future
>he runs a train on the good cats, all of the persuaded familiars, soul links my whole team, downs two of them
>spend the rest of the fight dancing around trying to get cats safely downed so they can be revived without soul link
Everyone got fucked up, but everyone made it back alive.
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>>737641425
>half damage but still energizes
seems fair. The first time I energized a robot I hit several of them for like 6 and I REEEd soo hard
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>>737672429
Oh my god I completely forgot I put the bow on the Tinkerer, I was so confused when he slapped the Destroyer for 999.
I am the most forgetful motherfucker around.
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>>737672310
why is he such a goober?
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>>737670805
Oh. I didn't realize it at first.
This entire level and its music is just one massive jab from Edmund at Team Meat for taking Super Meat Boy
Absolutely fucking based
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>>737673174
>tfw I realized these were named Flesh Lads
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>>737673174
SEARCHIN' FOR A BRAIN TO MAKE HIM SMART
>>737672310
Amplify+ is really good... and on Collarless, for some fucking reason.
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>>737673430
NOTHING WORKED AS IT SHOULD
HEART PUMPED BACKWARDS AND THAT'S NO GOOD
YOU KNOW IT SERVED HIM RIGHT
THIEVIN' AROUND AT THE DARK OF NIGHT

holy shit it even references how his pride and thievery backfired due to having no fucking idea what he was doing, and how he deserves all of it
it feels illegal to roast someone THIS badly, how will Tommy EVER recover
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>>737670805
>thought he had it made in the shade, taking the best parts of us with a rusty blade
>searching for a brain to make him smart
>nothing worked as it should
>you know it serves him right, thieving around in the dark of night

>This is a meta callout about team meat stealing SMB from steakmund, feeling smug about it, then absolutely fucking ruining it for themselves
Holy shit that's amazing
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>>737673873
I think the most amazing part is that they also did the music for his game which released like a month later.

Seriously what the fuck.
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I think it's fairly well known that HUMANICIDE (and the Future in general) was refitted for Hitler's inclusion.
But man, I cannot imagine it without the march/chant in the back. It wouldn't be half the boss song it is without that.
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>>737664093
honestly if edmund is actually concerned with cross-class stuff being OP he's gonna have to nerf like 2/3rds of all the abilities in the game
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>>737668031
lol
I've had one run like this, I had a shit comp and man on the moon wrecked my shit, was trying to set up the hands too much
Steven just ignored brace 10 and got to the man himself getting the win
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>>737673949
Not only that but the song made sure all discussion of it was immediately derailed
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>game is called Mewgenics
>The breeding/house gameplay is the most abysmal shit in the game
How would YOU fix the entire base management system?
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>>737665445
Classic description trolling from edmund
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>>737674359
An easy fix would be to allow you to click on the Lover/Hated portray of a cat to select them so you don't have to go around the room looking for them.
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>>737665445
>hover over the cat
>probed status description
>The cat's being controlled! Attack it to break the probe!
>break the probe
The description seems pretty clear to me. Stick a paw up the cat's ass and pull the probe out
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>>737674640
It says break the probe not break his asshole
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>>737674527
at the absolute minimum it should show the symbol you picked for the cat next to the cat's name if they're hated/loved by another cat
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>>737674769
>break his asshole
>probe falls out
>the cat snaps out of it
Eh, whatever works.
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>>737674359
From highest to lowest priority:
>Ability to instantly assign a cat to a specific room from the stat menu, even if it's just last visited room.
>Selected cat takes absolute priority over other cats when clicking (somewhat negated by above)
>List view that shows full mutations etc. without hovering
>Rework the house stat system away from rooms because the stat caps are way too high
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>>737673949
wait what game
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>>737674953
Meat Boy 3D
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The more I go through the random events, I like it a little less each expedition. It's just super basic stat checks but I don't know how it should be fixed without axing it entirely or making it unnecessarily bloated.
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they have the copycat scarf in roblox
>>737674998
literally just breed more luck
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>>737673949
>>737674953
>>737674997
What's even funnier is that Ridiculon is constantly tweeting about Mewgenics and its songs. But have not made a single tweet about Meat Boy 3D, they just quietly put the songs on Youtube and left it at that.
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>>737675057
Someone posted a pic of Hitler II in the roblox store a while back.
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It's gaming time.
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>>737675135
The difference between being paid to do something and getting paid doing something.
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>>737674998
If there was more choice involved than "roll a dice for something dunno what" it would be more engaging.

I swear to god I got a critical success on the plant eating event last run with the big critical success chime and the ENTIRE party healed 5 health.

Monkey Paw is a good event, that sort of framework would be better.
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>>737675640
>>737674998
Dumb idea, but what if each check had you play a small minigame? The higher your stat for that respective check, the easier the minigame.
Strength checks have you mash buttons in a specific sequence, dexterity checks have you dodge bullets in a short bullet hell segment, charisma checks have you mimic another cat's actions in a simon says-esque minigame, and so on.
i actually got this idea from a bondage porn game inspired by the binding of isaac, where you have to play minigames to remove bondage gear with certain buffs and passives making it easier or harder to do so
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>>737674359
add more stuff to do while back at the house so it feels less like a chore
add new ways to burn through extra food so you can go on the next trip faster
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>>737675640
imo the odd part out about them is that it picks a random cat for them.
They would probably be too easy if you could always pick the best cat for them, but at the same time getting one with two options: Cat's Worst Stat and Ignore, there's not a choice there. It's just go next.
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>>737673873
Is there also a relation to the fetus jars in The Future and them being heavily featured in the Hitler boss fight?
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>>737675879
firearms
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>>737675640
My way of doing it would be that they would be generally consequential, and that luck would be a resource. Cat Luck would contribute to this resource (but not regenerate it), and stats would let you "wager" the resource. Failing checks would regenerate it, and passing them would consume it.
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Are the hat drops from the Throbbing King an one-time thing or will you always get a supply of hats when killing him, every time?
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>>737674359
There needs to be more lategame uses for cats or something.
I'm getting over ten "keeper" cats every day. That is AFTER selecting for straight 7s, no birth defects, and useful abilities.

>>737676619
One time. They are in the general loot pool afterwards, so you'll see them again.
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>>737676642
>One time
Damn, these hats are pretty good and having a reliable way to get them sounded nice.
I guess it would be way too good though.
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>>737676705
Yeah. Though it's probably the only reason stuff like the Tinfoil Hat is allowed to be as good as it is.
If you haven't unlocked that one yet, you'll see what I mean when you do.
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>>737676760
I did unlock it, yes. Alongside the Thief and the Hunter unlocks.
These are all pretty goddamn good, with the tinfoil hat easily being the best. Does the Hunter hat's passive apply to Druid's crows?
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SMELLS LIKE SALMON AND ONION RINGS
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>>737676826
Yup
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>>737676902
Hell yeah. I also took a look at the possible meat weapon drops from HE GETS AWAY WITH MURDER and they're pretty damn good as well. Shame about the fact that they're locked behind an RNG test, but you can just savescum it.
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>>737676963
Half of them are neat and half are... kinda shit. Nothing worth risking a good cat over if you can't be assed to scum it.
I was pleasantly surprised by the Blood Bucket on a crit-happy Hunter though. Unlimited-use ranged weapons are hard to come by.
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>>737677112
It's mostly them being infinite use that seals the deal for me. It's pretty much near-guaranteed value on any cat and an always good option for almost anyone, as long as they can get within range.
Bag of Glass kinda sucks on everyone though.
Meat Bomb seems like the best out of all of them. I'm really glad it was my first drop.
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>>737676849
but enough about guillotina’s pits
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vore cat 2 wasn't that hard. I still haven't focused on breeding. I was going to start till I got the warning and started doing runs with strays and house born cats to have retired cats for when it showed up.
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>>737676849
cats can't eat onion.
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>>737636082
It shares mechanics with leprosy and necrosis where you drop food or poisoned food on conditions.
>>737655557
Caterpillar is so fucking dogshit it's almost hilarious
>requires 5 turns to evolve from a 1 hp bug to a moth
>you can make it faster with a TINKERER skill, upgrade
>when it evolves, it loses the all stats up you've been feeding it
>it has a weak lobbed shot and sleep status effect.
>>737671082
You can save and quit, then copy the most recent save file backup, restore the backup by deleting the timestamp from the filename and replacing it in the save location.
>>737674359
>subdivide rooms
>simultaneous display of two cat's lineages, or just displaying siblings alongside whatever you have selected
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The Mexican cartoonist guy voice is my favorite for cats.
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>>737676760
I reckon blood frenzy is gonna either bypass immunity or else not give a turn with immunity. It's too busted and too easy to set up.

Jesus I did a blood frenzy run once (no tinfoil, solo) and I found a wig that spawned a maggot or a fly or something at the end of my turn. I also got gassy through some event. Gassy does a 1 damage fart at the end of your turn and procs immediately after the thing that spawned the fly so together it would simply give me a turn when my turn ended.

Great combo but terrible, terrible run. I think it was void soul collarless and I had the skill stone and the chip set (-1 Cha/Int/mana cost). I got 2 skills that raised stats, 1 dex (was ranged), 1 luck, each at 1 mana cost. Could take off one of the chip set because they cost 4 mana each and set bonus is eh.

The cat spammed the everloving FUCK out of the luck one. Even at 4 times speed it was annoying. Turn after turn. I think he killed the throbbing king with +3, 400 luck. It might be because the + version gives 99 luck on next action.
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>>737671082
I use SuperF4 and it works just fine closing out the game and opening it back up.
And it's useful to have a way to force any program to instantly close.
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>>737677759
>this combo seems like it'd work but it'd be completely busted
>so probably it won't
This is how I know you haven't played Mewgenics long.
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>>737677819
I have all impossible marks on act 3, just haven't bothered with 1 and 2.

And it's not "seems like it'd work", it's pretty much the entire use of the item as far as I can tell. Who tf is briniging a disposable (in theory) rare item out as insurance?

Honestly when I try something that "seems like it'd work" it doesn't work.
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>>737677819
>>737677759
>>737676760
I feel like Edmund is fine with gamebreakers as long as they aren't too easy to enable.
Blood Frenzy shenanigans require you be skilled enough to fuck around with Blood Frenzy in the first place, so Edmund probably assumes it's a pass.
That said, Tinfoil Hat could do with losing its fear and confusion immunity. Being immune to the 2 most dangerous status effects in the entire game is already more than enough, so adding the 2 most annoying ones on top of that just feels a liiiittle bit too much.
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>>737677963
Just make it fragile or whatever
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>>737677963
It's piss easy, Blood Frenzy is both in the "fuck ur run over" pool and the "cast the forbidden spell" pool, and I don't think there's anyone who saw that item and thought of anything else (assuming they had previously encountered the condition, which is likely). Madness outside of that and psychosis is a non-issue, fear is a total non-issue, and while confusion is an issue it's... really only in act one from one specific enemy in the last two stages and only towards the end and not something you'd really gear against outside of happenstance.
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>>737678109
Blood Frenzy is not in the forbidden pool.
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>>737678143
Oh shit that's psychosis then, my bad.
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Are you fucking kidding me Beanies
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>>737674359
Remove it entirely.
Nothing is lost, besides flavor, that couldn't be put into isolated runs, and its removal in lieu of consistently statted characters would solve a majority of the game's balance issues
It's always going to be a chore and a distraction from the game's main appeal no matter how much polish you put into it
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>>737655597
It's great
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>>737663303
Fleas and Parasites makes me want to travel to Hawaii with all my cats
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>>737674359
Add an NPC from the Future, called Dr Meowgele who will euthanize cats with suboptimal stats but will allow you to gene edit and splice your cats as you wish for a price.
also, instead of normal breeding you sacrifice 2 or more cats to only produce one.
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>>737674359
You're a crazy cat lady; it's like that by design.
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>>737677545
they can but only once
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How different would the gameplay be if maps weren’t always one size/shape? It would still be grid based.
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>>737681181
That's sorta what indestructible terrain is for. Truly different map shapes would be a huge annoyance because of certain mechanics like being able to knock units over obstacles.
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>>737680687
Sorry, this will never be an excuse for dogshit game design.
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>>737681181
How about the adventure routes not being the exact fucking same every time
How about sometimes you get more chests
Sometimes more events
Sometimes more fights
It's so fucking dull when the run plays out exactly the same every single time
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>>737681663
What about catshit game design?
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today we bungamaxxing
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>>737685182
omelet du fromage
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I’ve come around to thief man, with steal kidney+ and a lot of crit this shit pumps
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>>737674359
There needs to just be better UI for showing mutations, disorders, and the actual chances for breeding/passing down stuff

I find the metagaming of actually curating a pool of all 7s cats with good mutations to be very satisfying, but all the important info is very poorly communicated
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>>737687287
Steal.kidney+ is good, but the real juice is Sever Artery+
>get all stats up+ for landing a crit
>with a source of marked and mana gain, it can loop infinitely
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>>737633223
Your leather jacket?
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>Doing act3
>non boss enemies fight is harder than actual bosses
Stop reflecting my range attack, you chubbies
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>>737664985
I thought blood frenzy targets the cat who's done the most damage in your run
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>>737675798
That sounds dreadful please no
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>>737671357
Same thing happened to me, sans the cursed items part, so I don't know why everyone keeps saying cats have no armor in the cutscene if you fail.
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>MOM I really hate you is really nice song
>it's just Unga bunga at boss fight
Pain pain pain pain
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>>737689678
>Pain pain pain pain
Endless misery, even
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>>737689678
I like both versions.
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>watching impossible solo runs
>they all openly savescum
DIDN'T BEAT IT FCUKERS
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>>737653532
Sigh...
*unzips dick*
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>"get in the hole" event in a solo run
>cat gets in
>automatically lose the run
why is this allowed?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rySCEFDuqy8
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>>737681705
>get TWO blood frenzies
there you go
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born again is a no-brainer right?
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>>737692526
yeah cleanse is a no brainer
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>>737692526
cleanse is right there nigga
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>>737692526
cleanse is better
your cats shouldn't be getting downed in the first place, unless you're building some synergies around being downed. yes it happens, but if it happens so frequently you need a revive spell it's time to end the run at the next checkpoint
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>>737691760
KEK I love even the game processing what just happened
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>>737691760
the junji ito event is honestly worse than blood frenzy
you need a specifically high event check stat but only average luck so you don't get in the hole
also is it just me or why does even a 5 get the poop rating on event checks now? i used to need to get it to 0 just to do that
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this is nice, especially since i can just repair it and farm it through act 1/2 instead
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>>737691760
The best part is that up until this month it used to just crash your game
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The t-rexes in the jurassic aren't that bad. Lord Bunga has the same gimmick except he does slow instead of immobile.
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>>737693267
even the game itself wanted to savescum that shit
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>>737693370
kekaroo
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man I really want to fuck marshmallow
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>>737693360
Why are the little stealing dino things called the molesters
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does cat rib work with party detonator quest item?
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>Toxoplasmosis
> -1 int (lol), -1 con (actually important)
>start each battle with a rat familiar that you can use as a distraction, chump blocker, sacrifice, or buff it into a competent threat with druid and hunter passives
>and since you get this familiar every battle it always starts off fresh at full HP
I want this disorder, cant imagine what it's like to start with a literal army of vermin summons every battle
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>>737688841
Wait till you fight Dreadnaughtus with elite buffs
>>737693687
What happens if your charm wears off mid-fucking?
>>737694161
I want to breed Empathy for butchers, taking 1 for self-dmg builds must be insane
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>>737694161
are you sure the rat per battle isnt just like the druid crow that is simply replenished? druid is an awfully popular class in this thread and if toxoplaasmosis did actually give a new rat per battle it would've been already shown by now
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>>737695206
Druid spawns a new crow every battle so you can let the crow die and you'll get another next battle like nothing happened
It's why crows are so good, they're completely expendable
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>>737695419
no that's different from what i was asking the other anon, he's under the impression that toxoplasmosis would continually add rats throughout the adventure
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>mech suit up the tinker during cerberus fight
>use the gatling gun skill
>immune immune immune
What the fuck do you mean the fucking dog is immune to bullets, what's even the logic at play here
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>>737695575
You wouldn't shoot a dog, would you?
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>>737695575
most of the core has fire immunity (in extension explosion immunity)
i had a solo hunter run on hard where i had to begrudgingly kill fire immune enemies with my skills instead of my actual damage
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>>737695575
Tangentially related, but one of my cats completely invalidated C-800 becaus ehe had Catch+ and would just catch fucking uzi and sniper bullets out of the air for bonus attacks and buffs. I think bro had like 20 all stat ups when he finally emptied his load into the C800 and brought it from full to 0 in one turn
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>>737691760
>The fabled lost Chromosome
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YOU CANT RUN YOU CANT HIDE
TRY TO FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
TRAVEL BACK IN TIME
TO ERASE YOUR MIND!
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>signal amplifier quest
>run is going extremely well
>literally last event node before the coven, my hunter which was hard carrying my ass gets "blood frenzy'd ;)"
>the coven summoned flies
>hunter with tower defense starts killing them, getting madness turns everytime
>mfw
I eventually made it, but man, fuck that
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so hypothetically,
if you have full team of 4, and you have the full copycat set and cat rib on a carry cat, it gives 5 identical kittens but only the original kitten is controllable in the menu and the other 4 are like the extra strays you can't access in the menu?
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>>737696491
Did the blood frenzy's hunter flatten the coven before they completed the summon?
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Any mods to add completed sidequest rewards to the drop pool? I am NOT doing that cancerous party detonator/spider injector combo again
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~~im just a cannibal kitty~~
~~ohh yeah~~
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>>737697424
I once did detonator+stopwatch
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If I have Skill Share on Bullseye, does the crit chance stack if another cat also has Bullseye?
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>>737697956
Yeah, passives stack. So if a hunter has bullseye and gets bullseye shared they'll have two copies of it
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>>737697648
OH SO MISUNDERSTOOD
HOW CAN SOMETHING BE BAD
THAT TASTES OH SO GOOD
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>>737698056
*SO VERY GOOD
fuck
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Why is it the cutest cats are always the most dysgenic?
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>>737696528
It'd always funny to see destructible objects play like they didn't bother to code them different, so you can have a confused garbage bag
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>>737696528
I tried reanimating a cactus so zodiac would get hit by thou shall not kill but unfortunately cacti do not count as living things
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>>737699105
hey now, soul link makes them great for killing mega mutants indirectly
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>>737698889
you just started the game, of course they look cuter when they aren't mutated abominational weapons of war, yet
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>>737698889
How did you even get two disorders on a kitten this early? Did you roll the parents in poo?
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i swear to god this cat will pass EVERYTHING down but the fucking goofball passive
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Stand In feels like one of the best mobility spells. You can tp to dead bodies without making any alphas
>>737698889
He might have 2 disorders but look how happy he is
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ADHD is so nice that its counterplay is literally pausing the game to be able to think beetter
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>>737699476
he didn't even inherit them

he just came out like that for no reason

not inbred either

>>737699898
i hope Beanies is treating him well
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>bred a rubber arrow + chaos rampage cat
>dropped a tinfoil hat last adventure
>time to use that sniper + metal coat that have been rotting in storage for dozens of hours for solo collarless king
>path of the butcher as second passive
>get rehook at level 2, hooked at level 3 (no rerolls)
>3-4 extra turns with chaos ramp
>can cast rehook 3 times per turn for 6 shots/turn
rubber arrow is fair and balanced
shame about the low libido, still, she's staying in the attic until she croaks
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this one is *crazy* handsome for a Mewgenics cat
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MONK IS SO FUCKING USELESS
IT FORGOT THE CANNON PART OF GLASS CANNON
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>>737700417
the juxtaposition between this smug motherfucker and the two goblins next to him is very funny
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>>737681663
it's not an excuse it's the stated reason for the game's house portion being the way it is. wait for mods to change it if it bothers you but it's the devs' vision
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>>737700417
Is the cat on the right okay???
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>>737700478
It's silly that mid and late game classes get this kind of slander. You wouldn't say fighter sucks because you lost runs back in the alley.
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>>737700478
Monk's skill with other class is the best
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>>737700741
she has head mutation because her mom bit the throbbing artery

still a decent-ish cat
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>>737700478
Your Hadouken?
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oh shit

it begins
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>get blood frenzy on carry hunter in a 2-cat team
panik
>running loner quest with deadweight tank carrying 2 other quest items and his corpse gets ignored once he is dead
kalm
>>737700478
he's better in other class than his own
just play him until you can past down stone fists and fists of fate
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>>737700478
Your Kamehameha?
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>>737674359
it's fine if your cat numbers are low, but there needs to be more incentive for keeping them low, maybe the county inspector comes by and gives you unique furniture if the house is in good condition (certain number of empty tiles in each room, no poop, no injuries/disorders)
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>>737701520
even better is somehow the tank doesnt level up despite getting a bad event that made him remove his neverstone
downed cats don't level, oops
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>>737702827
boon county is a deserted shithole, there won't be an inspector of the sort
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>>737702892
that's the twist you find out after a certain number of pleased visits, he's just some rando who found a suit
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>>737700381
I had a thief with rubber arrows, sharing crits between units was fun as fuck. It's the fact that it says ALL proyectiles that makes it so good, like imagine if Punch face was all punch/melee attacks
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>>737702831
FUCK
i somehow softlocked myself by looting the king with the hunter by mistake
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>>737703025
I CANT ESCAPE THE MENU
STEAKMUUUUUND
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>>737703150
C H E W
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>>737703150
NEVERMIND
I JUST QUIT THE GAME THAN REOPENED IT AND JUST DIRECTLY WENT HOME WITHOUT OPENING THE CAT MENU
THE STEAK IS WELL DONE
EDMUUUUND
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Do line of sight AoE attacks also hit bosses with multiple-tile hitboxes multiple times?
I had a Thief build that ignored line of sight restricts and let poison nail barrage rip twice and she somehow got ~50 stacks of poison in one turn.
She got melted by 100+ poison stacks in 2 rounds, that was fucking obscene.
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>>737703249
>>737703249
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>>737703381
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is it me or is primordial dwarf smaller than dwarfism?
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>>737644647
>Instant killing all the annoying enemies in the crater
>Mountain Form and Earthquake clearing bad tiles.
>Toad style + barbed wire goomba stomps
luv me some tank when it's not giving me garbage like pincushion and "My Leg".
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blood frenzy just fucking DEMOLISHED big slime lmao
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>>737703285
I think they target every visible tile, because yeah venom barrage+ absolutely shreds bosses.
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>>737703285
Thief has to be my favorite class, Hunter is great to deal with the whole field but a Thief getting extra movements, attack reloading and doing crits for days is a different feeling
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>>737653126
i don't think i've ever noticed that in that way until you've said it. i vaguely knew the vis boss has that but it never occured in my mind
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>>737663303
>stealth eatin rats slander
based
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>>737674261
the moon man's brace is very intimidating until you begin getting bruise mutations and abilities
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>>737704340
>give battle axe to a thief
>many different abilities to get extra movements/teleport
>get in the middle of a group, kill or chunk all of them for 20-50 damage, then get back out
>still solid against bosses because you can backstab with it
>it's not an "all-in" strategy because nothing is stopping you from just using your basic attack
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>>737688859
That only happens after you fight Guillotina 4 (the ghost form)
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>>737688859
it's random, another anon got it on his tank and i got it on my hunter
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>>737705460
Thanks time traveler anon
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>>737665539
looks like a brat
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Is it too late to savescum if I defeated Creator without triggering the nuke? I am at the victory level up screen.
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>>737706453
no. you can stil save scum, ive done it a couple of times, apparently that screen is part of the battle
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Is Hitler hard?
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>>737706598
House boss?
It's an endurance match. You have to go through robot versions of every miniboss cat, then you fight him. He has a melee-range instakill by the way.
Armor piercing is good to have.
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>>737706598
Don't bring electric dmg if you want your steak well done



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