https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrqc18Dd5zgIn my opinion KOTOR 2 is...
...something only fedora tipper teens and low IQ people enjoy, a parody of Star Wars, a much worse game than the amazing first title in the series.
Never seen a writer so fundamentally misunderstand a setting before.
Absolute kino and it saddens me deeply that I've played the game so many times it's no longer enjoyable.
>>737633432Kino but the gameplay is such a slog. Same as Dragon Age Origins, really. Even doing overpowered shit just doesn't feel satisfying. Also not enough side quests, unlike Dragon Age Origins which has a disruptive amount of side quests. The companion dialogue is unintuitive to trigger. Took me multiple playthroughs to get all of Atton's dialogue. Some playthroughs I can get Visas to max influence in one conversation but others take dozens. It's a poorly put together dialogue system. My guess is they did the traditional obsidian thing of making things quickly and sloppily only to feint at the sight of all the tech debt when they decide to slim it down. I think Avellone gets the force pretty spot on. Light side is balance, calm. Dark side is imbalance, chaos.
>>737633432unfinished mess with garbage tier characters like Nihilus and Sion.
I loved this game but i always see anons saying that the writer of this game hated star wars/didnt get it but I dont know enough about the setting to call bullshit on it. Can someone explain why this is said?
>>737635480I disagree about Dragon Age Origins being a slog but I agree on the KOTOR games. They suffer from a lack of meaningful choices in combat.>Combat startsFlurryFlurryFlurryFlurryFlurry>Combat startsForceStormForceStormForceStormOr if you're feeling a little spicy:>Combat startsCriticalStrikeCriticalStrikeCriticalStrikeThey're carried entirely by the narrative and characters. They are games that theoretically actually could benefit greatly from a remake, except that we're in the era of unrelenting enshitification.
>>737633432My favorite criticism of this game is that the item drops are randomized because it means redditors can't just google where the best items are to make the game even easier than it already is. It's like simply experiencing a game without knowing everything about it beforehand is scary, definitely seems like an autism problem.>>737636020It's a little of column A and a little of column B. There are people who get upset when any Star Wars story isn't just the most predictable, generic, cookie-cutter hero story and I think the game adds some much-needed nuance to the setting. Saying someone didn't "get it" when they have criticisms for something is a weak cope, but Chris Avellone doesn't do himself any favors with his attitude and his stories are all a little samey. I get that redditors who think "capitalism bad" makes them brilliant and that every game needs to be heckin wholesome whimsy are very annoying, but as a grown man a little less passive aggressive seething is to be expected.
>>737633432pretty fun but worse than the first one
>>737633432Its a game you like more as a fedora tipping teen then as an adult realize that Kotor 1 in its purity and mastery is the superior gameThat's not an opinion thoughJust an objective fact
KotOR 2 isn't a misunderstanding of SW, it's just the peak of overanalysis of simplistic source material. It's an aggressively cynical take on an allegedly forced, fate-like control of the Force, and filled with constant assumptions that the player is a low-IQ ape that does things for retard reasons (alongside light-dark gating of classes and abilities and absolutely nothing for grey characters, aka mechanical encouragement to do things for retard reasons). Pure pseud shit.And then the content restoration mod is actually a profoundly educating piece on why some content is cut for good reasons by developers who have to pick only the most worthwhile things to finish to meet project constraints.If you don't feel condescended to by KotOR 2, congrats on being the 80-IQ target of the game.
You have to be genuinely retarded to blame Avellone for "not getting it" when 2 is built heavily on the back of 1. The Jedi Masters being a bunch of cunts is based on everything you learn about them in 1 and the way they mishandled the Mandalorian War and Revan. Kreia being an angsty Sith pretending to be Miss Neutral Ground is also fresh off Revan still trying to be a good guy even after he falls to the Dark Side. Exile's Force Bonds thing is just Bastilla and Revan's connection taken to an extreme. Bastilla has dialogue about how the Force has a will of its own and what that means for the free will of Jedi and Sith.2 would not exist without the setup of 1. If you think 2 misunderstands Star Wars then so does 1. Unless your real argument is an incredibly shallow "Star Wars is supposed to be about Objective Black and White Morality" in which case you need to watch George's films again because even he didn't fucking stick to that idea.
>>737640138A lot of words just to tell everyone you're trans
>>737633432unfortunately unfinished and has the best depiction of Sith Lords in all the franchise.
>>737639109>in it’s purity and masteryexplain
>>737644025No :)
>>737639109I liked KOTOR1 more as a kid/teenager and the second one more now
>>737644121I just wanted someone who I agree with to articulate it in their own words. Anyway the first game is much better and just has the feeling of a classic Star Wars story along with better planets
