Bloomberg: "Every big game development company is using AI extensively in secret""Capcom and Ubisoft specifically named">Studios are quietly adopting GenAI tools for tasks like coding, generating small assets (such as rocks, grass, or environmental details), and speeding up production. >Most keep it undisclosed to avoid player backlash over concerns about creativity, quality, and job losses.
>>737640747how does he know?
aieee my technology companies are using the latest technologies my luddite ass is on fire because my furry porn artist got less commissions
>>737640747>games still take 7 years to come outI'd be excited and defend the decision if it actually meant good games came out fasteras far as I can tell development is still slow as hell and I'm getting charged $70 for a shit game
>jeet nation
>>737640747Genuinely can't tell if all these threads are shitposting to annoy people or corpo psyops to try and influence gamersganers. Either way, SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT
>>737640984I would never be okay with this bullshit. Use of AI is guaranteed to pump out lazy shit game after lazy shit game. You young fuckers don't care because everything is new to you I guess or you haven't seen it all yet. To me this screams creative bankruptcy, laziness and corporate greed. Assets in games have been reused since forever really but this takes it to a whole new level. Since everything has been done before being creative is actually more important than ever and AI is guaranteed to forever ruin that part of gaming.
>>737640747Asset generation yes. LLM code, fuck no, they need the game to not crash at the bare minimum.>>737640878The tools they used to automatically generate textures from images and materials for them were pretty much the precursor to image gen today. Of course they're using that stuff, it was the next logical step.
>>737641306>FAGGOTbold words for a dickless retard whose furry porn commissions are now invalidated by AIhahahahaha
>>737640747Is anyone even surprise a company for profit is trying to cut costs where they can
>>737640747wait until AI companies rise the price of their tools 10x this year
>>737640747Bro we already had grass. You don't need to make new grass for every game.
>>737641498why would that happen? inference has very high profit margins right now, it costs Anthropic less than half of what they charge to output a token. prices will continue to fall
>>737640747So that's how Capcom could pump out so many games for Switch 2 in just a year. Shameful, if true.
>>737640747At least one major upcoming release was entirely programmed by Anthropic's Mythos model. It's going to be announced during Summer Games Fest and drop before August. They don't plan to disclose it until after it's successful, remember that Steam does not require you to mark projects that only use it for programming.I can't say more about this right now, but keep your eyes open.
>>737641661i use claude code every day so unfortunately this kind of teenaged fake rumor doesn't work on me. anthropic has tons of tools build with mythos and they are ok but full of bugs. you could not build a complex 3d game with mythos.
>Capcom uses AI to brainstorm ideasi want each and every one of you to go to shatGPT right now and brainstorm a fantasy game and share your findings; guess what? You will all get similar results of a shattered realm / great cataclysm with characters that have a very similar flavor of name like elara. there is no brainstorming involved with AI when it simply regurgitates the same concepts it's been trained on over and over. This should be a giant, immense red flag to anyone reading this article.
>>737640934your make believe war is not the reality of the situationfuck off slopmonger
>oh noes you caught us with this random painting that was obviously ai generated. we promise we didnt use AI for ANYTHING ELSE! loll :Dthe amount of lying people do irl is just pathetic, i wish by law we could subpoena these faggots and prove to everyone that they are lying faggotsyou'd have amber heard tier performances every other week
>>737641726all you have to do to get more creative results is increase the model temperatureif you turn it up to 0.7 you'll get bizarrely different things every timeas usual, anti-AI race communist faggots know literally nothing about AI. for your next act please start talking about how AI is using up all of earth's water
I used AI for literally everything on my latest VN on Steam except for some manual revisions here and there. Never disclosed it and the reviews say they love the art and writing. One of them even says the art is proof of how human art is better than AI slop.To be fair, it still takes a lot of time to make a game this way though.
>>737640747>generating small assets (such as rocks, grass, or environmental details),wait you can gen 3d assets now?
AI is such the disruptive technology that at my job (web dev) they forced us to use it as much as possible. They even send a report every friday showing the rank of our team by AI usage. But yeah, 2 more week and claude develops AGI, this time for real.
>>737641912Is it about Elara of the Whispering Woods
>>737641816if you say so retard. I am glad to hear of any possibilities of AI harming the environment, quality of any and all media, or people in general, because you deserve nothing less, especially a reprehensible bootlicker such as yourself who is too low IQ to not fall for the biggest scam in human history.
>>737640747Same. I have no idea how to program but I've got a working prototype for a game I want to make for a dead genre.No I will not disclose I used AI. Yes I will make up a list of fake names for my credits screen. Yes I will ban you and delete your review for suggesting I used AI - and I'll use AI for this process so it'll be deleted milliseconds after you submit it.
>>737642204cornball
>>737641609it's literally happening rn>anthropicthey are removing claude code from $20 subscription
>>737641969>average AI hater; only experience with AI is a 640x640 image from 2022Yes you can generate 4K images, high detail models, textures, UV maps, retopology, skeletal meshes, animations... all of it works with little effort. Welcome to 2026 anon, you can make that game you dreamed of as a kid by yourself in a matter of months now.
>>737641383>Of course they're using that stuffso he doesnt know, hes just guessing.
I can't speak for art assets, but even for menial programming tasks the AI still needs human oversight because it CANNOT reason properly about system architecture AT ALLit only works well for small, self contained tasks, and ideally it should be doing thoughtless chores that involve no reasoning whatsoever where a knowledgeable human already did the design heavy lifting>t. has actually used this shit for systems in production that people use
>>737642204>bootlickerYou lick the boots of Jewish billionaire oligarchs. You lost and will continue to lose. You'll die alone, mutilated, broken, enslaved, raped. No one will remember you. Chuds own your life.
>>737642485wouldn't the billionaires want people to use their product? why would the billionaires want their own ai investments to crash?
>>737642450(and this is a bad thing btw because the jewish games industry will collapse if white heterosexual men can make videogames for white heterosexual men again like in the 80s and 90s)
>>737642564Correct, billionaires want you to use their HRT and sex reassignment surgery products. You provide millions of dollars directly to Master over your lifetime.
>>737642485>You lick the boots of Jewish billionaire oligarchs>he says this while supporting AI
>>737642485>You lick the boots of Jewish billionaire oligarchs.VERY funny seeing a pro-ai guy say this.
>>737642564>>737642684We're taking down the heckin patriarchy xisters!Just one more internet post
>>737642485>You lick the boots of Jewish billionaire oligarchs.that literally doesn't make any sense since i dont use or support AI, also, please, keep your mental illness in check, nobody needs to hear you sperging out.
>>737642671What? We're talking about ai. Why are you ranting about trannies?
>>737642450>high detail models, textures, UV maps, retopology, skeletal meshes, animationsgive me the name of the tools to do this and i'll use them rn, i haven't heard of a single AI retopo tool.
>>737642750Ok but this conversation is about ai, not trannies.
>twatter threadSwallow 12 gauge, tranny
>>737642839But you are transgender though, so it's relevant
>>737642882How is that relevant? My gender identity has nothing to do with how AI is destroying the planet.
>>737642750>the techbro gets laughed at on 4chan and immediately reaches for his folder of pictures praising trannies in techhmm
>>737642882No i'm not.
>>737642951falseflag post, mentally ill nazi guy dont respond to this one
>>737642789nevermind i just found trellis 2 gonna check it out
>falseflag post, mentally ill nazi guy
>try to have conversation on the internet>some mentally ill freak has a meltdown and starts spamming random garbagecool i love the post-smartphone internet, it's really great that literally every human being on the planet has internet access instead of the internet being limited to middle class nerds with a desktop pc
>>737643070dude in your photo is literally more sane than you are, let that sink in.
>>737642564Billionaires whose business models rely on labor scarcity want AI to fail and they pay writers and influencers to pretend it's the worst thing since Long COVID and racism. It's also fucking over artists, writers, and programmers, but every single one of them without exception is an insufferable cunt so IDGAF.Every single person I've talked to who's down on AI has never actually used it, or used it last in like 2023 before it got good (like in the last 6 months especially), or are too tech-illiterate to begin to grasp how to use it properly. Treat it like a human employee, not an all-knowing hyperintelligent sci-fi robot. You ask an employee to do something, do you assume he's done it perfectly? No. You ask your employee for information, do you assume it's always going to be perfectly accurate? No. It is not a magic black box from which springs forth absolute truth.Good AI is right most of the time but there's still a common issue - especially with low-quality AI - where if it doesn't know the answer it'll make shit up and hope you don't notice - THE SAME AS A HUMAN. Trust but verify. It does not do your entire job. You need at least some basic level of competence.You also can't just tell it "make me GTA 6". You need to use basic principles of programming. Start small and build on top of it. Structure your code in a way that's maintainable, logical, and modular. Use a frontend that communicates with it properly so it doesn't need to reread your entire codebase with every request. Start a new conversation every time you complete a task so it doesn't run out of context window and start violently shitting the bed. Have an architecture document.
>>737641306Gonna cry?
>>737640747luddites BTFO LMAOyou lose again just like your predecessors did 200 years agoI hope you all get tortured and murdered by the state like they were lol
>>737640747Why should I care about this?
>>737643429>every single one of them without exception is an insufferable cuntIf you're a programmer, then it wouldn't that also include you?
>>737643052Trellis 2 is only the beginning, you need a proper workflow to generate high res assets. I'm on my phone so I can't give you a link but there are about a million tutorials on YouTube - end to end, from conception to a complete functioning in-game model. Takes a few hours per asset.
>>737643553gonna try it out in comfyui and see if i can code a bridge between it and blender
>>737640747N-NYOOOOOOOEVERY SINGLE BLADE OF GRASS MUST BE HAND SCULPTED
>>737643526I'm not a programmer but yes I am frequently an insufferable cunt
>>737643778So then what are you using AI for?
>>737643435All out of tears from when they blew it all up.
>>737643661I haven't watched this video yet but it's probably relevant. Check this guy's YouTube channel, tons of guides and live demonstrations: https://youtu.be/QZuho1cVw9gAlso keep in mind everything over like 3 months old might as well be cave paintings. Stuff is moving very fast lately.
>>737640747Will games come out faster and cost less because of less workload? Will they not suffer in quality?If not then I will simply not buy them. I'm not paying 70-80 dollars for generated sloppa.Though Ubisoft can already eat a dick.
>>737643924It does the programming and other subhuman tasks for me. I manage it and test the results. I'm White so managing stuff comes naturally to me. Sometimes I wear a suit and poison my neighbor's lawn.
>>737640747>poo_nation shill threadDon't make me tap the sign again
>>737644148Programming what? You said you weren't a programmer. Can you tell me specifically what you're using it for?
>>7376441351) AAA will remain shit because that business model has been collapsing for the last 15 years and it's poisoned by structural DEI. By 2035 the last of today's AAA developers will be gone.2) Low-effort garbage is going to become even more common; a better recommendation system and/or stricter store policies will need to be to be put in place.3) Single-man passion projects like Stardew Valley are going to thrive (if they're allowed to) since people can make their dream games. Sadly the exponential deluge of slop will probably smother most of these.
>>737640747>Studios are quietly adopting GenAI tools for tasks like coding, generating small assets (such as rocks, grass, or environmental details), and speeding up production.Well that explains why everything runs like shit and ends up being a buggy mess on launch.
>>737642005Elara has to be the biggest AI whore.
>>737641383>LLM code*Everyone* these days uses LLM for code, and I mean everyone from the principal engineers to the interns of any software company. If they can afford a Claude enterprise subscription will buy it. Claude is that good these days.The generated code is slop but it's slop that the LLM can still understand. If the game crashes, you just tell it to fix it and it will analyze the crash logs and figure out the crash for you.
>>737644382I've used it to make a few Python utilities for obscure file management tasks only I have a need for. I've made some Arduino scripts for home automation. I'm working on a few game prototypes. I upscale classic porn to 4K60. I generate images for shitposting purposes. I got a job upscaling stuff like old TV shows, wedding videos, etc. I generate assets for my 3D printing business, milling, and laser cutting business. I ask questions about how to wire and program battery management systems for my ebike. I get it to help with recipes. I ask general questions throughout the day, like how many calories in a given weight of [x].For starters.
>Slop everywhere>All news is written by AI>Every video is generated>All the games are generated>Most posters are AIWhat a wonderful world
>>737644754>dude im a professional AI upscalerhaha ok
>>737644468This has only been going on for the past couple years for the most part; prior to that it was completely incapable of such tasks. The AAA industry has been going to shit for well over a decade and no amount of screeching trannies can revise history to blame it on AI.Halo Master Chief Collection for christ's sake
Wokeness hurts video games more than AI, the proof of this is Concord (wokeness, didn't sold shit, neither won any shit) and Expedition 33 (AI, it sold and it won shit).
>>737644861number must go upfaster and cheaperno soul allowed
>>737644890cope seethe mald dilate
>>737644754>I got a job upscaling stuff like old TV showsI wish I could hate you to death.
>>737645047yeah i'm sure you're an "AI upscale engineer" making 300k a year. a totally real job
>>737645046AI makes it possible for single-man teams to make soulful non-DEI games that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Everyone can be Eric Barone, everyone can be Notch.
>>737645194May I see these games?
>>737645091see>>737645047
>>737645171I didn't say that, nigel. Can you read? Some old guy gave me a hard drive full of old shows like Hogan's Heroes and I cleaned them up for him so they don't look like shit on 4K TVs. Then I started doing this on the side for his friends, for old wedding VHS tapes, classic porn, etc. Never got any complaints. I make anywhere from $500 to $3K a month in cash letting my GPU work on it overnight while collecting neetbux. It financed my new PC and a down payment on my car.>>737645047
>>737640747This surprises no one that work in any level of programming. Most popular programming tools already come with some level of AI built in, things like Databricks now have a whole AI helper in the UI.
>>737645239Answer remains the same as in the last thread: I'm not sharing anything, I'm not disclosing I used AI, and I'm going to use multiple developer accounts so if one gets outed the rest are still safe. Reminder:>>737645047
>>737645687>I'm not disclosing I used AIWhy not if it's the future?
>>737645687You're not making shit, bro.
>>737642204>I am glad to hear of any possibilities of AI harming the environment, quality of any and all media, or people in generalmee too, I hope it's so severe that your third-world-adjacent shithole just collapses entirely and you will be banned from the internet forever
>>737640747Equating genAI for coding and genAI for art is disingenuous.
>>737645567I did also work on a project for a small company out of California a couple years ago and I made $15K for over the course of 10 weeks. Paid off all my debt. They wanted me to do more but my case worker was getting uppity about transfers to my bank account. Way safer working for cash.
>>737644945>Halo Master Chief Collection for christ's sakeThat's more down to MS's hiring practices.Constantly cycling in and out developers working on engine level codebases is kinda retarded.
>>737645989how/why?Why do artfaggots think they should be exempt from automation? No one cares about your furry porn "job"
>>737645791Because of screeching trannies. I'll disclose once it's normalized.
>>737646107Why do you care what trannies think? Are you one?
>>737640747Why would anyone trust any Google employees saying? Google is trying to go full AI of course they’re trying to make it look like AI is a good thing. They are clearly lying about this to try to make it normalize AI.
>>737646161Because they'll try to cancel your shit and review bomb you retard
>>737640747Lately i've bought silksong and i'm planning to get Spire 2 when it's out of early access. This doesn't affect me at all.
>>737645194What do you mean everyone can be notch? Everyone could already be notch, notch was an amateur coder and his MC code sucked
>>737640747of course they are. imagine how much money you can save by using ai. normies are going to buy the slop anyway so who cares?
>>737640747>bergDiscarded.
>>737646259They didn't cancel Expedition 1488 tho?
>>737646107Enjoy not selling your game on steam I guess.
>>737646053It's retarded and it's also standard industry practice. In game development the rate of employee turnover is as little as 18 months on average. THIS is why everything has gone to shit.>>737645989A year ago this wasn't the case: all AI was bad. Now it's just AI art because even normies have realized it's retarded to deliberately produce a worse product: https://www.wired.com/story/mozilla-used-anthropics-mythos-to-find-271-bugs-in-firefox/Soon the overton window will shift further and the furry artists will have to get real jobs.
>>737646381They would've if they'd had the opportunity but the developers wisely lied and said they didn't use AI until they'd already won game of the year. Same as Baldur's Gate 3 the previous year.
>>737640878He's friends with every billionaire CEO.
>>737646536Crimson Desert is another example. Nothing to be afraid of.
>>737643990duly noted thanks
>>737641721its entirely conceivable that a studio would do this in parts and then debug with clearer instructions on executive orders because it makes for a really compelling VC circuit presentation that will net you millions or tens of millions in equity investmentsi don't know what that anon's bar for major release is and i do think it would take significantly longer if it were a complex 3d game, but i could definitely see someone doing it with a metroidvania or survivors clone or as a sequel or reskin of a product that requires minimal changes to support the new aesthetic
>>737646423Whoops, I accidentally didn't tick the "I used genAI" box on the submission form. Gosh. I feel so bad.>>737646306Thank you for establishing for me that even slop-coded games can be multi-million sellers if the game has an unserved audience. I expected I'd need to connect the dots for you but you did it for me.
There is no such thing as coding that isnt ai assisted in 2026, if you program regardless of in the gaming space or not your employer is gonna expect you to use some sort of agent to speed up work. The real issue is that many of these tools are not good enough yet to not bloat the codebase so if a studio uses some shitty outdated one it will effect the game alot
>>737646693>Whoops, I accidentally didn't tick the "I used genAI" box on the submission form. Gosh. I feel so bad.you monster...!!!
>>737646693Whoops, I accidentally didn't buy your game. I feel so bad.
>>737646620Trannies are small in number (fewer every day!) but even a small number of review bombers over AI is enough to affect a small game's review average and harm its reputation.There are only upsides to lying about using AI. There are only downsides to admitting you used AI. I don't make the rules.
>>737646898I refer you to>>737646107and>>737645047
>>737646905I wouldn't trust a liar
>>737645567>>737645998>i have an AI upscaling businessAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>737646437Ironically the furry artists are now probably the least threatened.All the big commercial models are doing their damndest to block nsfw content while local models are inherently niche.
>>737647005Stunning and brave
>>737647065I don't want your trust, only your money
>>737647223Why would I entrust you with my money if I don't trust you to deliver a good product?
>>737640878My company enforced it on us and doesn't disclose it anywhere publicly.If I hated using it I'd probably kick up a stink but I've gotten a decent promotion just for being able to train other employees in how to properly use it in their workflow.
>>737647145The best image model right now is literally called "Pony", you can easily run it locally, and it has about a million porn loras for every kink under the sun, all effortless to download and run via Stability Matrix.Do you have any other retarded boomer opinions on AI to share with the class?
>>737647116not him but I follow this guy https://x.com/javilopen And he has one too, I'd like to use it but it's not free but it's made with free tools.It's a pretty wholesome success story since he was, afaik, just a pretty regular dude. That other anon's story is nice too.>>737640878It's obvious for starters.
i don't care. i use AI in my daily work as well. every major company and corporation heavily uses it. there was never a negotiation. nobody cares about the ignorant wagie or the resistant "artist" they were never the people at the helm of this ship. They were swabbing the poop deck.
>>737647274Why would you trust anyone to deliver a good product? Judge the product on its merits and refund it if it's bad. We've had this system for over a decade.
>>737641348> Assets in games have been reused since forever really but this takes it to a whole new level. Yes, you will go from seeing the same fucking rock, to a completely new rock in every game
>>737647482>locallyInherently niche.Their customers (other furries) who were already buying from them don’t care. Use your head.
>>737647572If I don't trust you I won't buy anything from you, it's common sense? I don't trust Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft so I won't buy anything from them.
>>737641816>if you turn it up to 0.7 you'll get bizarrely different things every timeThey dont know how it works, they dont care how it works. They are trannies afraid they will either lose their worthless job, or worse let normal people make games with normal tastes and normal sensibilities.
i dont care that much about AI either way but my nearing-retirement dad uses claude a bunch and he genuinely thinks its his friend. im watching him both lose what little socialisation he had because his best friend is a bot as well as massively cognitively decline in real time because he outsources everything down to "what should i have for dinner tonight" to AI
>>737647793It's only gonna get worse from here. Enjoy your stay.
>every big game company is using AI in secret>game market also crashing all around usChecks out.
>>737647661>Inherently niche.tens of millions of people generate art locally
>>737647793That's not that bad. My grandmother was talking exclusively with pictures of men in the newspaper during her last years.
>>737647670When did trust enter into it? I already told you I don't want your trust and I didn't promise to be trustworthy.How many people/companies do you buy stuff from that you trust? Do you trust the company that made your graphics card/console? The company that made the chair you're sitting on? The car you drive? The phone/monitor you're reading this on?Either A) you're admitting that you trust giant corporations, or B) you're trying to make an argument based on a false premise. Which is it?Anyone else?
>>737640747companies should really stop lying to customers whenever it is convenient. It shows that they don't care.
>Pajeet_Nation
>>737645989True. AI code is actually killing the planet as it requires giant data centers and uses entire cities worth of power. AI art can be made on a 3060.
>>737648085>How many people/companies do you buy stuff from that you trust?Pretty much everyone? I mostly buy from local companies at this point.>Do you trust the company that made your graphics card/console? The company that made the chair you're sitting on? The car you drive? The phone/monitor you're reading this on?If I didn't trust a company I wouldn't have bought anything it produces, no? What if it fucking explodes or breaks when it matters? I don't trust chink cars and I will never buy one.Are you perhaps retarded?The western society is built on trust.
>I-IS THAT AI GENERATED LOREM IPSUM ON A TINY SCREEN I'M NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO READ IN MY GAME>DISCLOSE IT!!!!
>>737648667>You're not supposed to read this>you're not supposed to see that>you're not supposed to do this and this tooPathetic, really
>>737640747>big game development companyIt's not just big companies, everyone is using Ai tools for game development. AI is just too convenient to not use.
>>737648198>he says as he uses a data center to shitpost
>>737640878He played some Capcom's latest slop.
Do you HONESTLY need Claude AI or whatever to help brainstorm your ideas? You got other people in your team, right? Bounce ideas off each othere there. Failing that, get some paper and write down your ideas on that. You don't need a trillion dollar machine to do the most basic of things for you.
>>737640984stop playing american games
>>737641383>LLM code, fuck noWe're all telling you we're doing it. Why don't you believe us.
i don't really care so long as the games are good and they lower the price as they fire more workers and the budgets are coming down.
>>737640747Google says 80% of code being done today is A.I generated.The company I work for is around that much.Mine personally is around 90%, next week they expect everyone to become full stack developers and work on all front of the code so each programmer is responsible for a new featured from begging to end, incentivizing the use of cursor to deliver as much code as one possibly can to deliver stuff even faster.In my front end post graduate course I did at least half of the final work using A.I on shit that would take too long.A.I is here to stay but the caveat is that they now expect you to deliver stuff much faster and if you don't know what you are doing you can massively screw yourself over. At least you can generate egregious amounts of very specific porn, personally I am a fan of chastity caged femboys and tanned milfs.
>>737649274When people are talking about brainstorming using AI they are usually talking about generating pictures as references for inspiration. Or they'll use AI as a machine to create templates or wildcards for categories which can save a person weeks of research and related work. Your issue is that you yourself lack an imagination if you can't see the usefulness AI has for finding ideas. AI can become an enhancer for you and your team, and because it doesn't have the same kinf of bias a human would it's often capable of increased creativity which can help you come up with new ideas.
>>737649274You have never used AI as a writing assistant or even to jerk off.The best part about AI is that you can say things that would be social suicide in real life and not only will it not judge you for it, it'll suggest how you can make it even more fucked up. My favorite scenario right now is two sisters. I'm the boyfriend of the older one, and she secretly wants to fuck her little sister. I, the boyfriend, wouldn't be into the idea and she knows it, so she needs to groom and seduce her sister secretly when nobody's watching. Anon... the insane, devious, evil, manipulative shit she's done is worthy of a dozen life sentences, and almost none of it is my idea. When I don't like the course she's taking I just hit regenerate or give it a hint what I want to happen next and then it guides the story that direction. There is no human that can replicate this because NOBODY ON THIS GAY FUCKING EARTH would risk saying the things this fucked up AI spouts off at the drop of a hat. And it's smart enough to remember things that happened days ago and seamlessly weave them into the story.That's why it's better than a human, it has no need to keep its job, it has no ego, it won't put its foot down and complain to HR. Yes, it does do GPTisms (in large part because it's a very old model now), but if you were using this for an actual writing project you'd rewrite what it says in your own voice anyway.Behemoth-X v2 if anyone's curious. Big model but it's totally uncensored and trained on filth. Needs a good prompt and parameters to get the right mood. I've heard the model called Anubis is similar but much smaller and easier to run.
>>737650350It's not an "enchancer", it's a straight up lock because it doesn't actually generate ideas, it just recycles what it already knows.
At least Nintendo will never use AI because they’re too stubborn. They’re still using cartridges and refuse to hire voice actors. You think they’re going to touch AI?
>>737649274Anon, AIjeets don't have brains. Of course they can't brainstorm anything if their heads are empty to begin with.
>>737647793My dad watches AI generated shorts on the living room TV all day. They all use the same music and have the same narrator. He genuinely doesn’t care it’s AI as long as it relates to a topic he’s interested in.
>>737648198AI is getting more efficient all the time and will continue to do so. Pic related only shows hardware efficiency gains; software efficiency gains are even greater.Qwen3.6-27B is better than Claude was 6 months ago and you can run it on a single consumer GPU at useful speed.Qwen3.6-35B is even faster on local hardware (though not as accurate) but it's EASILY still on par with Gemini from 6 months ago.This is to say nothing of the latest speculative decoding breakthroughs, backend efficiency gains, etc. Chinese AI companies are raping and gaping American AI companies.
>>737649274It's retarded in the first place bc you don't need AI to brainstorm "remake another RE game" but yeah LLMs are completely fucking useless, if not actively detrimental, at the conceptual stage. If you want to make a wizard you can just google images of Gandalf or whatever, if you're making a period piece or trying to recreate an actual animal or something similar you need to look up actual images of that shit because the senile reddit box will just make up retarded details in anything you gen
>>737650350Honestly unless your game explores high concepts like hard sciences that requires actual research you really don't need to put in weeks of research for something. Besides, putting things like money and logistics aside if I wanted to have realistic gun mechanics in my game I think it'd be far more beneficial and fun for the team to learn from an actual expert by spending the day at the range rather than asking the AI to come up with something for me. Collaboration is what turns great ideas into fantastic games.
>>737650975You're not using your brain bud.>It's not an "enchancer",One of AIs basic functions is enhancing anything you want. Enhancing as far as math goes essentially just means changing based on some parameters, it can obviously do this.>it just recycles what it already knows.It knows more than any single human does ergo...>it doesn't actually generate ideas... it does. I posted one.>>737651495It can still save time though, with whatever you're doing. I agree with you but AI is still going to be useful whenever you want to use it. And what if your gun mechanics were bland for some reason? You could ask AI to find and apply some random algorithm to certain aspects of it and get something unique and potentially cool.
Any programmer who works at any serious company is (or should be) using AI tools to program. This being a surprise to people is the bigger surprise
>>737651663>It knows more than any single human does ergo...It does not really know anything and it constantly hallucinates.>... it does. I posted one.Oh yea a semi egyptian cat girl in the style of the FF Tactics artist. Such an amazing idea. Surely not a recycle of human ideas and huh artworks.
>>737650975Anon, how often do you hear a completely original idea that's not a combination of existing ideas?Anon, if you spent your entire life reading, would you be aware of every idea AI was trained on?Anon, what is an "original idea"? Aren't most "original ideas" just combinations of other ideas? If you understand those concepts and combine them in a way that hasn't been done before, is that original or does it not count?Is FTL an original idea? No. It's just combat-focused Star Trek with random events.Is Rimworld an original idea? No. It's just Dwarf Fortress with no z-depth and with sci-fi.Is Minecraft an original idea? No. It's just that earlier voxel block game (whatever it's called) plus survival elements.Is Deus Ex an original idea? No. It's just neromancer mixed with 1984.Is Mass Effect an original idea? No, it's just third-person KOTOR combined with a little Star Trek.What are some of your favorite original game ideas from the past 20 years, anon?
>company uses AI>but prices of games continue increasingIf they use AI, they should be lowering their prices. No argument can be made to counter this.Its a bit of a funny paradox really since the only argument that can be made is to say the AI is incompetent which means they're saying the quiet part loud and they don't want that.
>>737651663I dunno the whole time saver angle is kind of dubious because a lot of the things it saves time on are either really menial things that don't take up a lot of time or things that already have solutions like stock asset stores or getting a junior developer to work on it. Having a good project manager solves a lot of the issues that can be done with AI, time saving is more of a side benefit than anything else. At the end of the day AI is only there to replace jobs.
>>737652079The humanity created the whole world you're living in. The AI just recycles the ideas of it. Nothing more nothing less.
>>737651495>just don't do any research, bro. It'll be fine.The mindset of the average very smart AI-hater
>>737652159Answer my question faggot>>737652156You have never made anything in your life. Game assets are constantly made and then discarded throughout development. Do you think it doesn't make more sense to generate placeholders and then replace them later once the structure is locked-in? That's just one example of how retarded your uninformed opinion is.
>>737641383There isn't a person on the planet still coding by hand.
>>7376521451) How much did Expedition 33 cost?2) How much free post-release support did Baldur's Gate 3 get, for how many years?
>>737652276What? Yeah assets are made and not used all the time but assets are also made and recycled for future projects all the time too. Also most game engines already have placeholder assets and textures already baked into the engine too. You don't need an AI to create test textures that measure dimensions because most if not all engines already have that feature already. And once again, stock asset stores are already a thing and are very cheap and easy to get a hold of.
I use AI to program 99% of the stuff I used to write manually and it produces better code at a way faster rate and lets me shitpost meanwhile. Another good example of how I used AI was when last Friday I received an email from our project manager a few hours before I was clocking out for the weekend, asking me to make a document for our client detailing everything that we should do and time estimates before going to production. Because the project is run by retards that think that I can just map the entire production setup required from our side and provide time estimates to the customer in a few hours, they pretty much demanded that it needs to be ready on Monday morning so we can give our time estimates to the customer.The thing is that no one fucking knows how long it'll really take and I'm not working on weekends just because these people have no idea of time management or giving enough time to prepare stuff like this, normally I would have either needed to work on the weekend or just tell them to fuck off.Instead I just summarised our setup based on what I knew and what had been briefly discussed, then put my AI agent to go through our codebase to make sure that everything is covered. It then produced me a nice looking document with time estimates that I slightly modified and then used it to convert the whole thing into a readable form that looks professional. Took me maybe 20 min to do something that would require at least 5 hours min and the estimates are good enough because no one had the time to really go through them and sales will up them regardless.
>>737640747>all vidya, all tech, is just going to be jeets and AI trying to out tard one another
>>737642246>I've got a working prototype for a game I want to make for a dead genreIt will get you this far but it falls apart when you try to make it into an actual game, you will need to learn how to code if you ever want to finish it. source: have made 5 jeetcoded game prototypes already, hit AI walls every time
>>737640747If this is what it takes for the normalfaggot to turn against capslop, I'll take it
>>737640878He doesn't.
>>737652351I don't knowI don't knowThe fact that you didn't give the answer tells me you don't either lolA fine non-argument.
>I use [insert Nvidia product here]you are gay
>>737652069I'm starting to think you can't think at all. Hallucinating is a biproduct of thinking. To think is to know.>Oh yea a semi egyptian cat girl in the style of the FF Tactics artist. Such an amazing idea. Surely not a recycle of human ideas and huh artworks.The fact you recognize all of that proves that AI can do what you said it cannot.>>737652156>it can't save much time it can only make productive avenues redundant by saving immense amounts of time???
>>737652421Those stock assets are all free? What a deal! Can you point me to some of them? I need a 1960s era submarine with a big gaping tooth-filled mouth on the front.While you're finding that I'll just generate it for free.
>>737652156>Having a good project manager solves a lot of the issues that can be done with AIIt really doesn't, but regardless good project managers are so fucking rare in my experience. From a programmers perspective, you just produce stuff at a way faster rate while using less brainpower so your brain has more space to think of the bigger picture as you orchestrate the whole thing. Another useful thing is that AI can make "bullshit" documents in a fraction of a time that it would have taken you to write a report that looks professional enough to show in a meeting or provide to a customer
>>737652586Feels good not being poor and having the best hardware :)My Nvidia stock made me $200k richer after all, only right to give them some of it back for a 5090!Although I actually made $1000 upgrading from a 4090 to 5090. If you're a flagship card owner, Nvidia gives you a priority access code to purchase their new flagship on release for MSRP, when they're being scalped for 2-3x price. So I got to sell my 4090 for $3k and buy a 5090 for $2k. Nvidia is a great company.I'm so, so glad I wasn't born with autism. I would have definitely become an unfuckable incel that buys AMD garbage and uses Troonux. Instead I'm mentally healthy so I buy good hardware (Nvidia) and use Windows 11. GUIs are the best, after all - troonux users are in denial of that but use a GUI to navigate the internet instead of Telnet. Curious!
>>737640747Yet these niggers still ask me to pay 80$
>>737649274>Do you HONESTLY need Claude AI or whatever to help brainstorm your ideas? You got other people in your team, right?Well, I'm an anti social recluse, so relying on Claude (and 4chan) for brainstorming is the best I can do.
i mean no shit. literally anything that involves tech is using AI to some degree. they're lying if they say they don't. in fact, most tech jobs require that you know how to use ai models to help program
>>737652553E33 was $40BG3 got a patch last month, 2 years 7 months after releaseblackest black gorilla
>>737652789using nvidia means you are a pedo. their gpus generate illegal content.
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>>737652839see>>737652920emphasis on last line
>>737652890>Well, I'm an anti social recluse, so relying on Claude (and 4chan) for brainstorming is the best I can do.Yeah, for most cases if the option is to bother a senior engineer who will either know the thing by heart or ask it from AI, you might as well just ask AI first instead of bothering him.
>>737652640>Hallucinating is a biproduct of thinkingIt's not lol. It how AI works. And it does not think. And it will always hallucinate, it's inevitable.>The fact you recognize all of that proves that AI can do what you said it cannot.>it just recycles what it already knowsI rest my case, saar
>>737653053Answer my questions tarbaby>>737652079
>>737653053Hallucination is just a byproduct of AIs not being sufficiently trained to say "I don't know" when they don't know. There have been training runs that prove this, where the amount of brazen incorrectness drops to basically zero. These are not released because this training has a great cost to overall capabilities.
>>737640747anyone who programs knows that half of programming is just tedious time consuming shit that doesn't take any real thought. No idea why redditors care so much if some code monkey uses Chatgpt so he doesn't have to spend an hour setting up null checks and other boring ass shit.
>>737653009>there is 1(one) (uno) (which was mostly funded by papa) game with $40>so now you must accept $80 goyslops goykys
"Hallucinations" aren't some mysterious phenomenon, it's just literally how the technology works being prettied up by the gay techno vampires using a humanizing word. Even when an LLM gives a "correct" answer it's technically "hallucinating"
>>737653394Yeah I don't know what the fixation is wanting to write thunks, pages, slices and shit for the front end and then write all the backend logic manually. It takes a lot of time doing tedious stuff that you end up writing over and over again for different pages. With AI you just tell it to write all that stuff and then fine tune it and debug problems. The workflow is so much fucking faster and requires less effort on your part that someone who does it by hand is just making their life more difficult than it has to be.
>>737653169What is there to answer, retarded jeet?Is Star Trek an original idea?Is Dwarf Fortress an original idea?Is that earlier voxel block game (whatever it's called) an original idea?Is neromancer an original idea?Is KOTOR an original idea?
I found this twitter making realistic anime-style porn. It's pretty fucking good these days.
>>737653856I think these are super cute and I always smile when I see them
>>737653053Alright dude, it's clear you can't communicate like a human. You're just parroting mindless shit you've read.>>737653306It's not even a relevant issue since we're talking about using AI for creative help. He's just an NPC.
>>737653306>Hallucination is just a byproduct of AIs not being sufficiently trained to say "I don't know" when they don't knowLol you have no idea how AI works.
checklist for any internet discussion about AI:>completely untechnical person who can't tell you how to change directories in a terminal has strong beliefs about the technical underpinning of AI, can tell you confidently that AI "does not think and is just regurgitating">politically obsessed gendercurious person who can't tell you how the water cycle works has firm beliefs that AI is destroying the earth by using up all the water>schizophrenic christcuck strongly believes that AI is literally satan and he is defeating the antichrist by complaining about it on internet forumsso far we're 3/3
>>737653814More original than AIslop
>>737653945All modern AI systems are RLHF'd into oblivion to give the answers that get the most updoots. An "I don't know" gets 0 thumbs up, a brazen guess gets 0.01 upvotes which is more than 0. It's that simple.
>>737654098thats why human reinforcement learning should have an IQ barrier of 130
>>737641816>all you have to do to get more creative results is increase the model temperature>if you turn it up to 0.7 you'll get bizarrely different things every timeMay I see an example?
>>737654098You could've just said that you don't know
>>737654192https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/ab5532d8-7d61-4a98-acec-5cc4236f0d74
>>737654160>tfw its aactually africans paid in pennies doing most of itheh....
>>737653394>code monkey uses Chatgpt so he doesn't have to spend an hour setting up null checks and other boring ass shitBecause the AI will start adding in random shit or totally rewriting segments of the script that then no longer work as AI's greatest asset for visual creation is it's greatest failing for code.Consistency. Consistent code that doesn't magically change every few iterations is vital to making functional code. This is why we had things like a fuck ton of sites going dark for a couple of hours because some retarded jeet vibe-coded(used AI to code and assumed it was right) an update and pushed it causing everything to break.I don't hate AI but the fact you AI lovers refuse to accept it's weak points and try and justify it is why you're not accepted over all.On paper it sounds great but actually doing it, seeing for yourself what it shits out and then understanding that the person hired to do it at these companies has minimal understanding of English, a full suite of dark tetrad personality traits and no idea how to code properly and will assume nothing has changed other than what they asked it to change is damning.
>>737654193Didn't you hear him? He's not sufficiently trained to say "I don't know" kek
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>>737654028>Indian defends AI4/4
>>737654323Bro, you have no idea what you're talking about. It's just really obvious that you haven't used the modern tools at all and are talking out of your ass
>>737654028You forgot:>someone claims AI will never EVER be able to do [thing it is already perfectly capable of]>persistent refusal to think about what happens if the straight lines on the capabilities graphs continue to go straight up, only considers AI has it is today, or more likely how it was 6 months ago>claims that all talk about existential risk (or any risk really) from labs is just marketing talk
>"computer make a game copying tlou2 with a story that doesn't offend or upset anyone">generating.... please wait.... task complete. the title is resident evil requiem
>>737640747I for one welcome our AI overlords.
its not a viable business, they are running it a huge loss and they cant charge full price cause the product is absolutely not worth itLLMs have ~25% error/lie rate by their own admission, they corrupt the data, the overhead of double-checking everything is too much
>>737640747Anyone working in software has been using LLMs for years.Luddite retards gonna luddite lol
>>737654806>>someone claims AI will never EVER be able to do [thing it is already perfectly capable of]this is a big one because normalfags try something once, get bad results (sometimes because they're utterly retarded: see amazon 1-star reviews) and decide it's worthless forevereven though they last tried it in 2023
>>737654806persistent refusal to think about what happens if the straight lines on the capabilities graphs continue to go straight up, only considers AI has it is today, or more likely how it was 6 months agoThis is the one that drives me fucking nuts.
>>737654323If I was going to write a script for let's say cellular automata or something like that. So much of that is just standard, it's been written a million times, and it is far more efficient to have AI write it all and debug it later than it is to type the entire thing from scratch. There is a lot less hallucinating and retardation than there was 2 years ago, enough so that any errors are inconsequential compared to its efficiency. I would not use AI to script a project in its entirety, but it excels at doing monotonous, boring, braindead stuff and at sifting through your codebase for obvious bugs you're just missing.
>>737655178>its not a viable business, they are running it a huge losstraining new models every 3 months to compete in the hottest industry on the planet is the only part that loses money. selling AI inference (ie: what happens when you type something into an LLM and get a response) is extremely profitable. anthropic's cost-per-token is half of what they charge via APIinference prices will continue to fall (as they already have) because models become more efficient and hardware specifically designed for running LLMs is being designed and taped out constantly. for now it's all GPGPUs but that won't last forever, especially when the frantic model supremacy race slows downanyway, tl;dr, you don't know what you're tlaking about
I mean so long as they make sure it looks good and cover their ass to avoid getting into awkward lawsuits that rip assets from the game, sure whateverI'm worried about music though
>>737654717>You have no idea what you're talking aboutSo you're saying everyone hallucinated AWS services going down in October 2025 and just last month Amazon being down for 6 hours due to vibe coded garbage.Which just further proves my point. You can't accept AI's obvious glaring flaws in one sector that I even admitted is it's strength in another.You see any criticism of AI as an attack on you personally because you're dumbass falls into the definition of> the person hired to do it at these companies has minimal understanding of English, a full suite of dark tetrad personality traits and no idea how to code properly and will assume nothing has changed other than what they asked it to changeYou've never coded anything in your life and refuse to admit when it's use caused fuck ups.
>>737647516>>737646820>>737650350>>737652640>>737653930do you think you are enhancing Akihiko Yoshida's work by spamming this shit for 4 years now?
>>737655178>LLMs have ~25% error/lie rate by their own admissionThis is not true and you made it up. Your lying rate is higher than LLMs', it seems.
>>737655482not him but it looks good to mewhat's the problem? you should stop taking life so super serious, you aren't a hall monitor that controls everything around you, people are going to use AI because it's useful. come to terms with it or die bitter
>>737655457I mean you've no idea what you are talking about and the tirades you go on just make you sound more retarded
>>737655428>especially when the frantic model supremacy race slows downWhy do you think it will?
>>737655527>ntanta but kys
>>737655457Right, because we have never had outages in services prior to AI, right?Some lazy engineering team pushed some shit code to prod and it took the service down. Tale as old as time.Only now instead of blaming the juniors, or the seniors or whoever else that didn't do their due diligence in testing and reviewing stuff, you blame it on the AI generated code.Tools get misused all the time, just look at how loosely typed languages have been misused to write the most unmaintainable hell's kitchen spaghetti codebases ever.I guess we should never use PHP or Javascript, right? Oh wait, those languages power about 80+ of the entire internet.
>>737655584because that's how competition in tech always works, someone gets a monopoly and the nature of tech is that you keep and expand monopoliesAI should be even more monopolistic because it's self-improving. the first company or nationstate to get to real self improvement will rape all the others
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>>737655675source: TransgenderPerspective.Netmeanwhile back in reality, testing confirms hallucination rates for LLMs are down to single digits
This is almost as shocking as hearing back in the days that studios would use photoshop to alter images.
>>737655527I agree. It's pretty infuriating when people try to police others over generating some pictures. Like go ham with image generation, creating something in the style of someone is more than fine. The people bitching and moaning should find something better to do with their time
>>737655675Why intentionally post the worst model as if it was the standard? And that is ONLY when it should have answered idk, not all responses generally.
>>737655482you tell meENHANCE
>>737655813>people have an opinion that's different than mine? that's infuriatingsounds like a (you) problem. generate 9001 images a day for all I give a fuck but stop flooding the internet with that sloppa, nobody, not even other sloppers, want to see that tripe. read the room. thanks
>>737655312And that is fair. That's using AI properly. The big issue with AI is that last sentence in my post. People using it for monotonous tasks are one thing and if you know how to code that saves time. The problem is that the majority of ardent AI defenders are pajeet tier retards with over-inflated, easily-damaged egos that see the AI as an extension of themselves and use it for every thing rather than just to cancel out monotony.This is also what I see a lot of criticism of AI coming from, at least from those that aren't pissed off troons. For instance with art, YES inpainting and more detailed methods than just typing prompts are a thing and it's all improved drastically, as well as the ability to then edit it yourself by hand. BUT, the average retard using AI is a narcissistic egomaniacal jeet that thinks just typing words and getting close enough is perfect.It's not that the tech won't improve, of course it is. It's that the people using the tech are fucking retarded and shouldn't have access to the internet period. That's what the discourse SHOULD be coming down to. But then the troons come in and since they have the exact same personality issues as the jeets, it just becomes a shit-flinging contest.
>>737655763>t. company selling AI based solutions>10/10 salesmen recommend the new product they're selling, so it has to be good!
Shortcuts that supposedly 'expedite' production never end up raising the bar, nor streamline production, nor benefit the consumer, drive down prices or drive up wages. They always, always bring the bar down and make things worse. The transition from cel animation to digital animation will forever stand as proof for this, along with the introduction of DLSS/mass use resolution downsample/upscalers.
>>737656036My problem was people trying to police the creation process. Flooding the internet with the images is a whole another thing that I agree is pretty shitty if you don't do it with some restraint. Having places like ex filled with really low effort slop just makes it harder to find the good slop
I cannot wait to die so my body can be mulched to power our billionaire masters' data centers
>we fired everyone who knew how to do anything useful because we thought you could replace competent staff with a wonky pattern prediction machine for cheap>AAA games all collectively backslide even further into unplayable, megascan based trash running at 30 FPS on top of the line hardware>new titles are just re-releases of old shit or the result of "hey grok give me a cool game idea" (concord)Yeah that checks out.It's almost like replacing actual people with a schizophrenic box trained by reddit posts was a bad idea.Who could have seen that coming?
>>737656036It's funny you say this because someone just sent me a comment telling me not to stop sharing my gens lmao.
>>737656543>coomer wants to get offwaow!!
>>737656351Saar please do the needful
>>737656664Looks he's a wholesome weeb that likes space, video games, and robots. He reposted this which I just watched and enjoyedhttps://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/2037988581092827593Very based unlike a whiner like you.
>>737657454this is beyond embarassing. you have to go back lmao
>>737640878very real saar trust the bahrat nation
>>737657560so mad
>>737652145>If they use AI, they should be lowering their prices. No argument can be made to counter this.If you’re not very busy at work you should ask the boss to lower your salary
>>737657881This doesn't work because you're being paid for the time at work, not necessarily the work you do. With AI, they are outputting more product in less time with less employees, so prices should reflect that. It'll never happen obviously because all it means is that executives get bigger paychecks.
>>737645845im american, though i guess you could call the USA a third-world-adjacent shithole now after the current presidency haha
>>737658130You should make your own AI games and sell them for cheap to reduce the market prices of all other games
sometimes I ask the big LLMs to fix images for me and they just do it magically, it's so cool
>>737656351>>AAA games all collectively backslide even further into unplayable, megascan based trash running at 30 FPS on top of the line hardwarethat was literally the state before AI you fucking dishonest tranny
so of the three main internet villains, the chinese, indians and russians, i know:chinese>support AI and view it as a another form of artistic expressionindians>love AI, possibly due to the ponzi scheme aspect of it, ie the prospect of making money since they are incapable of discerning quality when it comes to creative worksbut what do russians think about AI? I havent really gotten their take on the whole landscape.
>>737658739>backslide even furthernice reading comprehension jeetski
>>737658739>that was literally the state before AI you fucking dishonest tranny>key term 'further'>implies it got worsePay attention in English class next time, Raj.
>>737649274Well here's trying to get tips and brainstorm on an engine or any code or project before AI>hey guis here's my engine any ideas...?>... ... *crickets*Now>Here are some tips for Y. If you're stuck on X, this is what you'll have to read. When it comes to pathfinding, there's these algorithms to choose from...
AI is based because it triggers the libs
>>737658757>but what do russians think about AI? I havent really gotten their take on the whole landscape.They probably don't have much of an opinion at the moment since telegram is banned over there, their largest messaging app and are busy trying to dodge government VPN bans at the moment.
>>737640747>minor elements are done by AI, the cheap and speedy labor force>the most important stuff is saved for the artists Yeaaaah. Riiight. Give me a break.
>>737640747decels lost lmao. you will buy AI powered games, you will like them, and you won't even know. we can safely assume GTA6 was 50% made with AI by now.
>>737640878>have useful cheap tool that saved goyrillions of dollars and goycattle cant tell the difference>"how does he know?"yeah its a mystery anon
>>737658757I don't know if I've seen a russian opinion on AI
>>737640747>ubisoft>still hires thousands of jeets>still years late>still an overballooned budget>still failslol, lmao
>>737658813>>737658820How the fuck can it backslide even further than ubislop shit already was? The lack of creativity and lack of solid software was already a problem for the last 10 years. It cant and it wont be worse. You caused this, deranged commie.Want to save games? It has nothing to do with AI. Now put this through your thick fucking skull.>0 subsidies from the government>Stop or at least denounce intereference from blackrock>fire any unionized waggie, fight unions, kill unions>denounce dead weight (dei hires, people with lack of talent and high level skills, people that are just there so a black woman can justify her job)>denounce and fight anyone who tries to sabotage your game (why dont we bring sweetbaby consultants? why dont we do X dei program? can we make the mc woman and lame? can the game have a lbgt theme?)There now even Ubislop is forced to start making good games. Every problem with videogames including blackrock (specially blackrock) has everything to do with state intervention.
>>737640747>Be Big Tech >Public starts to witch hunt your new AI baby>Government in your pocket>Spread paranoia and disinformation and claim that everybody is actually using AI right now in secret>They have literally no way to dispute your claimsJews
>>737642246I suspect a lot of horror devs are doing this. A lot of them are coming out with incredibly poorly made games very quickly, which has me suspicious they're pushing ai shit a lot.
>>737659352russians are too busy having their internet be banned for the glory of their jewish boyar overlords
>>737659246>companies like capcom>responsible for garbage slop like the RE demakes and 9>played pirated copies of these games and did not like themI dunno Anon, it seems like it's mostly relevant to shit games I don't like.
Question for the anti-AI group; would you prefer outsourcing to indians? Because the jobs are likely going to be outsourced regardless. Companies simply spend as little as possible.
>>737640747>snake oil sales man shilling snake oilwhy are we even doing this shit anymore
>>737659668snake oil that you live in fear of and refuse to engage with in any way because you're a petrified luddite
>>737659713the difference is that AI is actually useless and only ever used to scam people
>>737659512I had no idea about that, that sucks.
>>737659563why bother pirating something you hate? I do pirate shit occasionally, but it's mostly indie stuff to test it out first before buying it. everyone already knows what to expect from RE games if you at least played one and are over 18 years old.
>>737659619i would prefer taxing the rich and companies hiring talented people in their own countries without DEI breathing down their neck and paying them a liveable wage, for a start. but no, we have to worship rich jews for some reason because Goymerica is still living the shadow of the red scare
>>737659438Would also need to outlaw corporations. They're a plague upon the west.
>>737659802AI has a market cap in like the trillions currently. Your life's work will be a few hundred thousand assuming you're not a NEET (most leftists are)If AI is useless, you're utterly beyond worthless.
>>737659847>why bother pirating something you hate?Well I gotta play it to know it's bad, unless the last couple were already bad.
>>737659835russia is such an unbelievable shithole, even the ultranationalist ziggers are reacting now that so many websites are banned. especially when telegram was banned and internet speeds are slow as shit
>>737640747Ok, fine, but what parts of re9 were Ai?
>>737656543make some femboys out of your gens dude, rpeferably with bulge
>>737659619They dont mind as long as they can mandate those tranny themes into the game, doesnt matter who codes them. What they are afraid is for ai advancing enough that someone with passion and a small code ability can make their own big budget like games. Thus escaping the tranny mandates and giving white heterosexual men what they want.
>>737659925no way fag
>>737659868Corporations have unfair powers only because of state intervention. Everything blackrock did was through the pension system and printed money that the fed gives them.>but corporationsNo, its always the government. Fucking commie.
>>737659872every AI company is losing money its a literal money pit with no way of ever creating profit they're just passing money between the same 5 companies so that marketcap is fake
If you do work on a computer and you're not utilizing AI in some way you're basically retarded and deserve to be fired.
>>737659981>No, its always the government.Theyre companies that are considered human to try and offset risk to their board doing illegal activities, and are sold by shares with a duty to always maximize profit, which heavily incentivizes toxic, destructive practices. The government is corrupt and needs to be fixed, but corporations need to go.
>>737659886it's pretty much the same recipe since psx days. some have more action, some are from a 1st person view, locations are different, and the rest is mostly copy pasted. mikami had the perfect formula with re1 and re4, the rest are just permutations.
>>737659990>every AI company is losing moneyNot even remotely true, the only AI companies losing money right now are the frontier companies training huge 1T+ parameter models every few months. This amount of capex is because of the competitiveness of the industry right now.Aside from training capex, AI is *extremely* profitable and vast numbers of people are getting filthy rich off of it. Inference is monstrously profitable: every token that Anthropic sells via its API costs them only half as much money to produce (and that's with bleeding-edge, unoptimized models on unoptimized gpGPUs, not the specialized TPUs or ASICs of the future)tl;dr: You don't know what you're talking about. You're probably not capable of independently evaluating information and forming your own opinions. Since you lack a soul, you can only absorb opinions drilled into you by mass media.
>>737640747People are bothered by this?
>>737660132>he can't function without LLM trashimagine being this retarded
>>737660139No thanks commie. And yes, coporations need to maximize sales and profit. Thats how you got a supercomputer on your pocket.>which heavily incentivizes toxic, destructive practicesDont work there, dont buy that. If they dont go broke, its because of state intervention.
>>737660132Stop projecting, jeet.
>>737659990
>>737658890I feel like your scenario works if a program did a team meeting with a bunch of artists about what to do with the engine. He might have more luck having a team meeting with other programmers and engineers.
>>737660214Who said anything about not being able to function? Not him but I use AI every day. Not even just LLMs either, diffusion is great for testing new UI concepts
>>737659872>DUDE MONEY
AI is the future and we're running jalopys right now where we have to manually crank things once in a while to get going. In a few decades though, it's going to change everything we know about computing forever.
>>737660174>subscription modelsso they actually are making no profit off AI generated things which is the actual product they are sellingits essentially a convoluted pyramid scheme scam
>>737660132No amount of AI will hide the fact you're a jeet
>>737659619That's a trick question since the end result of chasing AI is to replace the entire work force with jeets. The people being replaced aren't the jeets but the actual devs. All in the name of money launder... I mean "cost-cutting."
>>737660346Correct, money is how we decide what's valuable. You would understand if you weren't a 14-year-old who's never live in the real world. It's okay to be underage, just don't write your opinions online.
>>737659872>fake fiat currency that has been deflated to be a fraction of what the gold standard wasWaow. Look at all those fake numbers on a screen that says they're worth so much. You know, all the money the government is stealing in advance from their citizens to prop up a bunch of parasites. How large is america's debt again?
>>737660394I didn't even mention subscriptions anywhere in my post. I think you might be illiterate.
>>737660443You're obviously indian because not everyone wants jeets around.
yeah bro, Tom Henderson totally has insiders in Capcom
>>737660491you have provided no answer on what AI companies are actually selling besides subscriptions models for access to their LLM scam they aren't making any money on the actual product
>>737660445>Correct, money is how we decide what's valuable.
>>737660508>All in the name of money launder... I mean "cost-cutting.">Retard thinks this means I want jeets anywhere near games, let alone tech or anything elseAnon, my point is that the people that the western studios are replacing with AI are NOT the outsourced jeets. It's the actual developers being replaced. Jeets are dirt cheap meaning they can pocket more of the budget while pretending they're trying to cut costs.
>>737660601That's correct, underaged brown transgender anon. Money is how humans decide what is valuable.
>>737640747AntiAI consumers are entitled retards so no need to disclose AI usage
>>737660629There is not a single western studio replacing anyone with outsourced jeets, they arent smart enough to work in video games. You're just trying to get the video game industry to be jeeted up because you want more indians around.
>>737660601yeah that is how companies work, anon.
>>737640878That retard just gets all his "news" from here and everyone here just makes shit up.
>>737660730>they arent smart enough to work in video gamesWe know, that's why Marathon got called out for art theft. The jeets on art detail just stole shit from ArtStation not noticing they stole something with loss in it. Then there's GTA defecation edition. The PoP Sands of Time jeetmake that got shitcanned because they were too stupid to remake a game that already exists. Starfield's existence. Bethesda, Ubi, R*, Actiblizz, etc. all outsource their slop to india and it ends up even worse and unoptimized than it was in the past.I don't want jeets in the games industry. I want them genocided.
>>737659619Isn't AI just going to accelerate everything being done by jeets? If you don't really need anyone to think might as well just hire a bunch of cheap thirdworlders to do it.
>>737660945did you even read the first 5 words? it's a bloomberg story confirmed by other outletsphonefaggots need to be genocided
>>737660174That's true. These idiots have no clue what AI is doing to keep the American economy afloat. People rooting for a so called “bubble” to burst have no idea what that would actually do. It isn’t even a bubble in the first place.Where things get serious, and where I can understand some of the fear on the left, is the sense of existential dread. There will likely come a point, and sooner than most expect, when a huge amount of intellectual work becomes obsolete. That is not a small disruption, that is a full rewrite of how society functions.Corporations and elites are completely mistaken if they think educated, middle class people with stable, well paid careers will quietly accept being pushed into low wage service jobs. That is not how humans react when their status and purpose get ripped away.We have one shot to handle this transition properly. If we get it wrong, the consequences will not be something we can recover from.
>>737660989So why are we rooting for AI if jeets aren't competent enough to make games even with it?
>>737661074>Corporations and elites are completely mistaken if they think educated, middle class people with stable, well paid careers will quietly accept being pushed into low wage service jobs. That is not how humans react when their status and purpose get ripped away.wagies are cattle and will quietly accept anythinghappened with industrial revolution, will happen again
>>737661018>it's a bloomberg story confirmed by other outletskys you dumb fucking newfaggot
>>737661126Wagies lives overall improved due to the industrial revolution though, at least in the long term, if AI can't do the same there will be problems.
>>737661126Industrial revolution and the way it was handled created the conditions that made both World War I and World War II far more likely and far more destructive. We don't need the third one.
>>737661074>Corporations and elites are completely mistaken if they think educated, middle class people with stable, well paid careers will quietly accept being pushed into low wage service jobs.Maybe back in the old days, but these days they can use the internet manipulate people to stop them from doing anything.
>>737661339just say jews
>>737660172AI should just be used to fullfil whatever niche porn fetishes you have and nothing else.
>>737640747Tbh, that's actually a good use of AI; therr's nothing wrong with using AI to code and generate assets that don't benefit from a specifically human perspective (I.E. grass, simple items like vases/lamps/mundane objects without much design involved.) Ideally, AI should be able to optimize performance far better and for far cheaper than humans can.It's when you start conceptualizing characters, entire environments, and dialogue through prompts where it becomes a problem.
>>737661641agreed
>>737647579That's not a good thing. That same rock that you keep seeing occupies very little space in the total storage requirements. If you start using AI to make sure every rock is unique, that's gonna bloat the file size like crazy
>>737661665but it's not a problem when you do that either
>>737661641>brake
>>737661764>doesn't recognize the analogyyou are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable
>>737660314Team meeting? This is already too profitbrained. This is why it's a common meme in open source or free projects that no one's going to bother with a personal project and you're just told to do it yourself if you want something changed. Everyone's too profitbrained to bother.If you have a personal project...you're expected to pay someone a salary to...brainstorm some ideas? Just use your non-existent cash to arrange a team meeting?It's not like you were ever interested in anything but profit yourself. You take for granted that you're paid big bucks. Suddenly, this tech comes and you wonder why a machine is replacing you. I'm sure not paying you a salary for brainstorming a personal project. Why will the big company manager with the big bucks do it? It feels like entitlement. People have to go out of their way to pay you money? Why does the big company guy owe you money? Charity?
>>737661641Why do you ask the slop machine to make something for you, but still have it refer to your self-insert as "Anon"?
>>737649274Don't pretend you've never went to google for character names.
>>737661665yeah i always found using AI for conceptualizing characters, entire environments, and dialogue to be strange considering this is the one thing humans are able to do for completely free without any need for tools. you just need a mind and a pen and paper and you got it. i thought the whole fucking point of this gay AI bullshit was to free us from boring menial tasks and allow us to make art, rather than the inverse.
>>737662058AI is better at concept art than people who cost a lot of money
>>737640747it is not a big secret when all job ads has a line or two about "gen ai", if not an outright ai related position
>>737658739not really, games were improving on graphics and perf back then. the great downgradening happened after dllshit dropped.
>>737661773No, THAT is definitely a problem. Don't forget, AI CANNOT create something unique; it can only create from what was already made. If you create concept art, plotlines, primary assets, etc from prompts, the only thing you are doing is remixing someone else's creation. The industry is already creatively bankrupt/downright incestuous due to investment demanding it, we don't need to be playing the same game over and over again with some new voices and a different color outfit/hair.
>>737662025anon sounds hotter to me for some reason
>>737652159>The humanity created the whole world you're living in.We just copied and combined what we saw around us. No human has ever made something original.
>>737662152why are you lying about what AI can do?
>>737662170That's incredibly sad.
I for one welcome our ai overlords
>>737662152Press f5 for a while. All of these people are unique.https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
>>737641383Lol it's the other way around, everybody uses LLM slaves to speed up automation and bug check nowadays. GenAI is still shit for real world use cases.
>>737662152>autistic brown retard>random sperg paragraph of fanfictionzzz
>>737662295they are not. they are trained on data of real people and essentially kitbashing a bunch of faces together to make a "new" "person"
>>737662094No, it isn't. It's good at replicating the work of those people that cost a lot of money.You cannot create through AI. At best, you can remix, but not create.
>>737662398They are 100% unique. It doesn't matter how they're created, they did not exist before you pressed f5. Retard.
>>737662398And that's basically how art has been made since time immemorial
>>737662413yes, it isit can create and it does it infinitely faster and costs nothing
>>737640747Does this mean Steam can sue them all and take their illegal profits for themselves? It has do be a crime to do this, it's objectively terrorism if you think about it.
>>737662548too far, bait failed
>>737640747We've been procedurally generating rocks, grass and minor environmental detail in video games for over 20 years, so what the FUCK does gen AI have to do with it now?
>>737662618gen AI is good enough to replace leftytroons so they're seething
>>737662635Nigger stop posting.
>>737662690see?
>>737662548>costs nothingNow you know that isn't just true, the reason why Open AI is shutting down is because it's just too expensive to run and nobody's willing to pay the five bucks it costs to create a video on it
>>737661074>>737661365also if you dont believe me, just look at this thread>>737662635the astroturfing is already working, the cattle will be replaced and they will like it.
>>737662821>Open AI is shutting downputting aside how much of a schizo you are, open ai is just one companythey have nothing to do with the technology they just use it
>>737662295By nature, none of those people are unique, and they don't look it either. They just look like regular ass you see every day. They look "unique" to you because it's trained along an absolute crapton of stock photos, so naturally, they just look like stock photos. Now, if you're using this to generate background NPCs that's don't really need to look unique, that's...fine I guess. (I still would prefer humans design humans, if it can be helped.)Try to get something actually original that stands out, however, something that can be used in a video game to enhance the character design, and you are going to get Cloud(1)/John-117(1)/Leon Kennedy (1)/2B(1), etc you get the idea.What is it you don't understand about AI not being able to create? The entire way generative AI works means it literally *can't*.
>>737640878The AI that helped him write that post told him.
>>737663073you are mentally challenged
>>737663107Wish western translators would use AI and save the rest of us the trouble.
can anyone with A.I access generate some femboys for me? thanks in advance.
>>737662152>>737663073?? If you remove the name of thar character from your prompt you'll get some unique character
>Accountant uses a calculatorTHIS ISN'T REAL TAX PREPARATION
>>737663315>>737663267hmmm
>>737663390you got me.
>>737662901I was meant to say Sora, my bad. But yes Sora is shutting down because it can't make a profit.
>>737663451it could have if they weren't retarded about it>let people use it for free>censor the fuck out of it making it shit to use>be worse than competitorslots of other AI video companies out there, none are shutting down
>>737662618Because procedural generation didn't require inefficient models trained on the lifted work of others, moron.
>>737663693retards like you are so fucking confused
>>737663583It still wouldn't make a profit under those conditions. Generative AI is very costly to run and like I said, to make a video with Sora it roughly costed around $5 in computational power and electricity. There's only a few avenues going forward to be profitable:>Charge based purely on a generation by generation basis >Loss lead until you're effectively the only platform left in town>Continue burning through funds until generation is cheap enough for you to absorb the cost without issue
>>737663814it's not possible to get more retarded than you
>>737663865I'd like my money back now sam
>>737663865Charging people a $20 monthly subscription to allow them to generate like $200 worth of videos per month was never going to work.
>>737661098I'm not rooting for it you retarded nigger tranny. I'm stating what will happen in reality because the industry is a corrupt shit hole of jewish subversion. The IDEAL would be to hire talented, capable, competent white and east asian men to do it but that costs money and doesn't get you free gibs from the kikes.
>>737640747That would explain why games have fucking sucked for years.
>>737641348OH NO TRIPLE A GAMES, THE BEACON OF QUALITY AND ORIGINALITY, WILL BECOME LAZY SCHLOCK!WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO BELOVED UNMOLESTED FRANCHISES LIKE CALL OF DUTY?
>>737663739If you pretend there's no difference between using noise algorithms to create basic terrain generation or textures and using a LLM that literally couldn't exist without training data to rip off that also give you different results every time.you use it you're being disingenuous and retarded. There's no procedural generation in AI because there's no procedure in a randomized black box.
>>737663972goo thing it only costs fractions of pennies to generate videos
>>737664134If it did then Sora wouldn't be going out of fucking business now would it?
>>737662413>ai cant do this and will never be able to do thisit gets tiring
>>737664115what if I use trained data to do a procgen? I call it "AI-free" AI and sell it to people who hate AI. checkmate atheist.
>>737640878His uncle works at Nintendo
>>737664050And it will only get worse
>>737664880That's still not what the term procedural generation means. It requires a deterministic procedure with recreateable results. That's some if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike type shit.LLMs have been part of their own field of computer science since the 70s. Stop trying to inject your AI shit into other fields to legitimize yourself like parasites.
>>737663336>Ramza(1)
>>737640984Get used to it. You can hand whatever innovation to companies and they'll still find a way to churn out a shit product and overcharge you for it.
>>737665326what about markov chain then
>>737640747>"Every big game development company is using AI extensively in secret">names two companies that do it openly
>>737641383Fucking retard. You fags read just like redditroons who performatively seethe at anything AI. It's a tool just like anything else. You have no clue how the real world works.The Linux kernel allows LLM code with human review and responsibility. Even Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, uses LLM code and has admitted all he did at times was review output while typing nothing alongside.
>>737640984The problem is that the devs are lazy bastards or straight up too incompetent to even have finished the degree.These people don't have any investment in the games they're developing, they just want to earn a paycheck, so it's common in the industry for people to estimate fixes and new features to take weeks to develop, when a senior developer who didn't slack off would have it in three hours taking QA time into account.The problem these companies have is that senior devs are too expensive and have great mobility to go to another company, so in most rounds of layoffs they fire all senior talent and replace it with juniors and third worlder subcontractors, that's mostly why games are so bad, look worse than ps3 games and run like shit.
luddite anti-ai fags owned.we told you over and over it was inevitable but you kept saying "it's not inevitable if we have something to say about it!"well how the fuck are you going to say anything about it when its primary aspect is to try and be invisible?
>>737640878I told him and I have literally never lied in my entire life once, not even about Santa.(Who is real by the way)
>>737646437AI art still causes massive scandals, see Crimson Desert where it had to be quickly patched out.No one cares about AI coding because its not as obvious as art, you can't "see" it if you are a normal consumer.
>>737640747>Literally every video game company is using ChatGPT for all of their games. They're just doing it secretly, okay?
>>737666227What pisses me off is that if it weren't for retarded luddites blockimg progress, we'd be much further into UBI/UHI already.
you have to admit that the DLSS5 shit was a pretty bad look for AI, no?lots of normalfags looked at it and went, oh this is not what I want.
>>737666694They did the same thing with DLSS upscaling and frame gen. That's just an >Leather jacket man badthing.
>>737666694you're deluding yourself, most normies loved it
>>737666634I doubt we'll ever get there. What I do think will happen is driving the costs of everything down to near zero, which is somewhat similar. That's just what mass robot slavery is going to do.People say "they're not going to pass the cost reduction onto the consumer!" but what happens when each consumer buys their own robot, and then a group of 50 random people put their robots together and create a competing business? And everyone does this?It's the leftist mindset that massive corpos are your gods who dictate everything that will happen to you, instead of what they actually are which is capitalism competitors which comes with their own weakpoints.
>There are people itt that upload their own or companies code into data harvesters to 'check' them or do some other menial task that they get paid forWhat makes you any better than a jeet or chinese that can do that and whom also benefit from such harvested code?
>>737666694>you have to admit that the DLSS5 shit was a pretty bad look for AI, no?If you possess the ability to think about the future, not really. These are the same people who were saying AI will never be viable because it can't draw hands a couple years ago. Realtime img2img generation is impressive. They weren't demonstrating a technology that you're going to be using now, but you will in the future.
>>737666694the images of RE9 look terrible, but starfield looks better.unfortunately another technology that rewards developers who dont put in the effort.
>>737667394but the thing is realtime img2img has no use for games that already exist. its only for gimmicky shit like what if mario looked like gta5. the consumers rejected it because it looked terrible and was useless and would only slow their games down
>>737658757Scammers and frauds, low IQ beings love AI because they don't generate or create anything of their own as they canno innovate or solve problems.Hence this new thing that steals data and generates search results from internet scraping is so beneficial to them. They can use it to translate and mask their voice to scam even more effectively and don't even need to memorize answers for job screening so they can fraud their way into major companies.
>>737666694Some developers just get a bit overzealous about their inventions, it's not a bad thing it just means we take a slight divergence in the tech tree instead. And it really is only "slight", for example coding and asset generation, which fit more into the classic pipeline where humans can edit and have the final say on the look of things.
>>737667339>It's the leftist mindset that massive corpos are your gods who dictate everything that will happen to you, instead of what they actually are which is capitalism competitors which comes with their own weakpoints.well said
>>737640747>in secretUh, if it's secret, how is it being reported on?You can't just assume it's being done and report it as fact. This is a push to normalize AI use by the way. A lot of people in AI threads push the "lol everyone is doing it anyway" argument to shut down criticism of AI slop and fight against AI content tags.I don't mind if people like AI, but paid shills are the fucking worst.
>>737667857>uh, the nuke codes aren't actually a secret because select officials know them!
>>737661641Or you could also stop being a pitiful porn-addict.
>>737664092>OH NO TRIPLE A GAMES, THE BEACON OF QUALITY AND ORIGINALITY, WILL BECOME LAZY SCHLOCK!They will get even worse and the worseness will become normal across the entire industry. You don't understand how bad it will get.
>>737666227>makes claim>no evidence>"lol owned"
>>7376678571. journalists keep contacts hidden2. cloud services report on usage3. anonymous polls for developers4. whistleblowers
I like Agentic coding tools like Claude Code. However, my biggest issue is not with the tool itself, but the perceived productivity are currently deluding the management class to keep whipping their employees for continued 10x~100x productivity gains. This is not sustainable.
>>737667942Nuke codes aren't baseless speculation.If you make a claim it needs to be supported by evidence of some kind. Like how I could say you're a cocksucking faggot and point to the post you just made as proof.
>use AI to do something as benign as to make or touch up a cobblestone texture>write all the code yourself>model everything yourself>every other texture, done by yourself>have to disclose that one cobblestone texture was touched by AI>get rabid psychos sending death threats and trying to find out where you live to make you pay for the sin of making games with AI>because that miniscule use of AI no one would've noticed if undisclosed tainted all of your hard work as "AI slop"I wouldn't be disclosing AI use either. Best part is that when you use it right, which is not to do everything for you, you would never be able to tell and all those anti-AI lunatics wouldn't know any better. It's a bigger detriment to disclose AI use because of how unhinged the anti-AI crowd is.So fuck 'em, and also fuck everyone working at these corporate monoliths and expecting to be treated right. Go to any of the dozens of indie game studios that are around if you care about worker rights. Let the big corpos that abuse their workers wither away without any workers.Funny how everyone keeps complaining about how evil corpos like Ubi are, yet they never try and look for better jobs, only further supporting this abuse, no?
>>737668089or: they're making shit up
>>737666162Nintendo hires the best developers in the industry and their games take 7 years on average to come out as well.
>>737667857It could be a spook to aggrandize AI. What's going on exactly? If a dev used it as a search engine, did a company use AI? is AI making games on its own?
>>737668389Haha yeah totally. But in reality this isn't even new news, credible people have been saying this for years.
>>737668369if ai is so good then how do people notice that it's ai?
>>737668369>>have to disclose that one cobblestone texture was touched by AIYes, and that's a good thing.> It's a bigger detriment to disclose AI use because of how unhinged the anti-AI crowd is.Leftists are unhinged about it, like they are with everything. I just don't want to pay for games that have been shat out by a soulless machine operated by a lazy fucktard.
>>737668561>credible people have been saying this for years."Credible people" who want us to accept it as normal so they can fire all their workers and pump out slop on the cheap.
>>737668450Nintendo stole their key code for their Ultra 64 games from a small EU dev studio that made their most technologically advanced SNES games with 3D before N64 and took them over a decade to reverse engineer it so their Zelda/Mario/StarFox 64 titles remained stagnant until Wii.Japanese game devs don't improve anything and rely on second hand and recently open sourced technology to adopt, their Breath of the Wind shit with physics is something Half-Life 2 did after they were forced to remake HL2 from scratch after their Russian leak situation.They go to school to learn to code already antiquated software from their old professors, then get hired and never move around or adapt and then sell that same jank 20 years later with a dozen sequels never improving.
>>737640747Yeah no shit. There isn't a single programmer working anywhere who doesn't use it to some extent. It's a new tool that allows them to do their job with significantly more efficiency. Of course they are going to use it.
>>737668634It is normal as everyone is using it.
>>737668369It's trickling down to the smaller businesses. They're getting reliant on AI without giving themselves a breather to allow their employees to process/refine the quality of their product. Current-AI is a productivity tool, yes, but the real danger is when humans lean too much into it. We are not at that part of sci-fi where we can completely leave these things alone, much less put 100% trust on its outputs. Way I see it, tools like Claude Code opens a shit ton of doors for the average user to build, but the human operator needs to ground themselves, and the LLM, within physical reality or risk losing time and money chasing rabbitholes.
>>737668834people use new thing and pay for itcompany invests into better toolstools get betterpeople use new thing and pay for it...
>>737668084The evidence is OP's pic.Or do you really believe that more and more programmers in these companies aren't using Claude and GPT? That it's all a lie?
>>737668634>the corporation is evil for making slopjust don't buy the slop
>>737668084https://steamdb.info/tag/1368160/
>>7376685671) retards who misuse AI in the way I described, which is make it do your job for you, will be obvious in it's use2) these "people" tend to accuse regular artists of AI use, extra points if it's over bad hands, which is something that's notoriously hard to get right in art>>737668583>I just don't want to pay for games that have been shat out by a soulless machine operated by a lazy fucktardThen don't buy them? Something something vote with your wallet?Also>soullessI love this notion that before AI we didn't have a soulless factory line assembled slop feed. But I guess Quixel MegaScans are done by humans and UE5 is also done by humans, so it's "sovl", even if every game looks and feels the same. Then you have a clean consciousness to consoom.>>737668834The real issue is that we're in a bubble where everyone wants to shove AI everywhere no matter what because that's what makes the stonks go up, and in result it's giving AI tools a bad name because they're regularly misused. It's basically the same issue that's stifling the development and adoption of the technology.The corporate grift surrounding AI is the issue, not AI itself. And I wish we'd all stop calling it "AI" because the notion that we're anywhere near the levels of Skynet or HAL 9000 is detrimental in both ways. Tech bros push it as a replacement of humans, and the anti-AI loonies truly believe their favorite sci-fi movies will materialize because we've figured out a way to throw data in a blender and then create new data based on that.
>>737669182>retards who misuse AI in the way I describedso then dont be the retard who misuses ai and nobody will notice. what's the problem?
>>737669293>what's the problem?Where do you see one?>>737668634Reminder that all the whiney artists working at big corpos to make game assets, or even worse, advertisements, that then bitch about not being able to find work as "trve sovlfvl hvman artists" are not artists and deserve to be mocked relentlessly.Being paid to make a product or propaganda for someone doesn't make you an artist. And you sure as hell aren't human.Your usefulness to these soul sucking scum is running to an end now that they can replace you with a cheaper alternative and you should've realized that you were a disposable that only had a job because there was no alternative. Now you either make do and learn how to use these AI tools to keep your cushy corpo job or eat shit and die if you're too proud to fully embrace what you always were: an obedient corporate whore.And if you pull your head out of your ass, you'll find that there are many indie and AA studios that refuse to use AI that'll gladly hire you. A brand new job market tailored exactly for you. As long as you curb that cosmic ego of yours and accept a more humble paycheck.But we all know how it is with these "artists". They're lazy and greedy, and that's why they became artists.
>>737669118gonna check this one lol
>>737640878He asked AI for the answer
>>737669648>Where do you see one?you've made a bunch of posts complaining so you obviously think there's a problem
>>737669648>greedy, and that's why they became artists.I'm convinced that this post was made by a third worlder where they think that artists are rich because a $100 commission in their shithole is like a month of salary.
>>737640747Who gives a fuck. One of my mates at work paid some mook overseas $150 for a piece of artwork and I can’t tell the fucking difference between the piece of slop he ended up paying for and something that chatGPT shits out in 7 seconds. And don’t fucken @me about “oh muh artists” like he did, because all the faggots using horses when tractors were readily available for farming went out of business.I hope AI does take over everything. The sooner a super intelligence realises the vast majority of flesh bags are wastes of resources the better.
>>737670189>the vast majority of flesh bags are wastes of resources the better.Does that include you or are you special?
>>737668369It's supposed to be a detriment because ai is cancer you shouldn't ever be using.
>>737669182>Then don't buy them? Something something vote with your wallet?I won't, because they'll be tagged appropriately.>I love this notion that before AI we didn't have a soulless factory line assembled slop feed. Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but I already ate.Obviously there's tons of slop out there already. AI shit is worse. Removing the human altogether is even worse than when the human is a lazy, moronic NPC.Especially when you consider that it enables the same lazy, moronic NPCs who shit out slop now to shit out even worse, even more barren slop.
>>737669182>Then don't buy them? Something something vote with your wallet?Says the one advocating for hiding its usage to prevent people from voting with their wallet.
>>737670189>I can’t tell the fucking difference between the piece of slop he ended up paying for and something that chatGPT shits out in 7 secondsNo wonder you're a retarded misanthrope. If you hate humanity so much then please end your own life first.
>>737640747I obviously trust Tom Henderson, Investing in Claude right now, just take more of my tax money please @grok
>>737670257>>737671619No, of course it includes me. I’m not special, building will eventually be replaced as well but you faggoty art fags will be the first to go, and thank fuck for that. Get a real job you homos.
>>737671790unemployment is at an all time high and the market is about to crash, yet you're still talking about artfags lmaoyou're a little slow
>>737671790This anon is the kind of perpetually embittered retard who votes in Republicans every chance he gets then blames everybody else for the world going to shit. Just kill yourself, faggot.
>>737671870>muh unemploymentBuilding is fucking pumping, retard. Not that this matters. The more homeless dyed haired art fags the better. Your gibs barely cover the iced double shot semen lattes. Literally LMAOing at your life.
>>737640934>furry porn artist got less commissionsnot a furry but i got more commissions and charge more. Ngl at begining i was freaking out.
That's fine as long as they use it well.It's like CGI in movies. Nobody cares unless they notice, which means it was poorly done.
>>737669965Greedy =/= rich. If artists love to babble about art and soul and humanity this much, you'd expect them to not give a shit about money and make art for the sake of it, yet they always prove that the sole reason they're artists and do art is because they're expecting to get paid.But the good news is that since they've wasted all their life getting a useless art degree to then hope they can make a living by putting minimal effort in making vidya textures and advert brochures, it means that now they're genuinely fucked. They won't get their cushy jobs back no matter how much they moan, and they have too big of an ego to get a wagie job at a Walmart or whatever to pay the bills, so in the end they'll starve to death out of their own stupidity. No plan B in case their genius plan for easy living won't be forever, no practical skills in life to get a job anywhere else, no brains to figure out why they're the problem of their own suffering.Again, they could go to those indie/AA studios or get a normal job. But they're so detached from reality that they'll starve to death. And good fucking riddance. If you're too rich to stack sodas on store shelves to, you know, survive, then you don't deserve sympathy of any sorts.
Oh no what if AI leads to games being lazy, soulless, profit and market oriented, with no originality?
>>737672072are you ok?
>>737672072It's AI gods making art for the sake of it, bless them.
>>737671428Just look at the game and see that it's slopNot much changes for me, 99% of games are already slop. while you're fighting over "this type of slop is sloppier than usual"
>>737672115You can already find AI games on steam and yeah they are pretty much what you just said. somehow worse than normal shitty indie games
>>737671790>I’m not special>but
>>737640934The coon eats the slop The coon claps
>>737642246>No I will not disclose I used AINobody's even going to see it, if it even gets released
>>737672265>It's AI gods making art for the sake of itThey're not making it, and it's not art. 0/2
>>737673197you will never be a woman
>>737672582There are tons of good indie games but that's beside the point.AI is a force multiplier, like any power tool. A single person can accomplish much more, and that can be good or bad depending on who's using it and why.
>>737640747>y-y-you cant just not tell us you're using AI!!!Lmao.
>>737640747I'm not believing a single thing that lying faggot posts.
>>737674862Ok where all of the big AI hits?
>>737673485It's true but at the same time you will never be anything. Have fun with that.
>>737674952t. seething woketard
>>737675464>t. newfag
>>737640984Using Ai causes a decrease in productivity. So despite heavily using AI it equalizes to about the same amount of time.
>>737641306It's a mix of contrarians and third worlders.
>>737675110this absolute marvel https://store.steampowered.com/app/3444020/Demonic_Mahjong/China keeps delivering
>>737640747Soon redditors will be like "ugh, look at this rock texture it's totally ai generated it looks so unrealistic not at all like a real rock"
>>737675110You wouldn't know about it because they wouldn't brag about it, since every normalfag hates AI without thinking right now
>>737677808Normalfags being based for once? Cool.
>>737678197>vapid self-praise
>>737677808>since every normalfag hates AIlol
>>737646161AIfags have got it into their heads that everyone who opposes them cuts their dicks off because of a single article about probability. They are exactly the kind of faggots that makes AI use look bad.
>>737678674AI chads call you people trannies because you're just as insanely delusional and it's blatantly obvious most of you are left leaning(thus tranny lovers) going by your social media accounts. There have been studies on this too.
>>737679345Trannies are pretending to be something they are not.In this case we have devs trying to pass off AI work as their own unnoticed. John, you are the trannies.
>>737679345>posts the article claiming to be a study>its a glorified census poll>never posts any actual studies in question when promptedThe most ridiculous thing about all this is that you could prompt the AI to find these studies for you but you never do.
>>737640878Experts say.
>>737678651>>737678197The herd opinion is AI=BADno nuance or understanding of what good it can do, what harm it can cause, where we should be careful and where we can benefit. Simply saying AI is bad is equally retarded as saying machines or guns are bad. It all depends on who is using it, and what they do with it.These anti AI retards are pushing for a world where only governments and large corporations have access to AI, which is the worst possible outcome.
>>737679442>Trannies are pretending to be something they are not.They are delusional retards just like you. You're literally arguing that working with a tool isn't working with a tool, you are a troon.
>>737679626>no nuance or understanding of what good it can donothing>what harm it can causeeverythingare you jewish? i can tell you're jewish.
>>737679513> polls aren't studiesThe absolute fucking state of mentally challenged luddites.
>>737679717Why would the kikes want AI in the hands of the people?
>>737679764AI destroys everything it touches. the jews want to destroy out planet and they're winning now that 70iq jeets that have never achieved anything on their own in their lives are on their side.
>>737679764Because it's shit so they can laugh about the damage it does to everything and they can use the usage statistics as part of their little stock market game they play with each other.
>>737679818>>737679881What are your opinions on firearm ownership? Should people be allowed to own guns? Should people be allowed to own private AIs? In my opinion, these issues are closely related.
>>737679743The weasel in those details is that calling some online poll or survey a study makes it sound like it was professionally done by some researchers or a group of experts. When it was likely just some made up wholesale or a rando made a quick inline poll and called it a day.
>>737679626The vast majority of people like AI.
>>737680117>"trust the experts">gets triggered when literal proven facts aren't approved by "experts"We already knew you were a tranny.
>>737679967Personal gun ownership keeps the government from getting too tyrannical. They'll think twice about ukraine style draft kidnappings if they have to worry about citizens being able to defend themselves. Gun ownership good. AI is pushed purely to kill quality and scam investors. Ai is bad.
>>737679717>it's bad because it's bad and reddit said it's bad it just is trust me
>>737680606name a single benefit AI hasa single onei can tell you're either a jew or a subhuman construction worker. one of those.
>JEET THREADKill yourselves
>>737680658it translates posts on Xwhen I asked it if it remembers the name of a game it told me the name of the game two benefits. done.
>>737680658it helps people creates good art
>>737680658>it makes stuff for you>it's fast>it's cheap>as long as you aren't generating glossy ai slop art nobody will knownta, but it's pretty obvious what benefits it has
>>737680782>translates posts on Xif you can't tell why this is a negative you're even more pathetic than i ever imagined.
>>737680853>j-just have a dedicated linguist expert interpreter 24/7 nearby when you browse Xyou lost.
>>737680960do you enjoy playing fifa?
At this point there are only three possible outcomes >Things slow down as LLMs because too expensive for companies (at the global scale AI still costs more than it earns but that could change)>All white collars jobs are replaced and as there aren't enough blue collar jobs for everyone, it's civil war>Same as above but universal basic income is established to prevent disorder, probably the preferred solution since it'll let a lot of people die silently without having enough money to have children which after one or two generations lead to a culled humanity so that the 0.1% has even bigger garden
>>737681107your imagination is terrible
>>737681185I purposefully didn't let my imagination run wild there, it's a narrowed down prediction. If things continue as they are, it's the expected result.
>>737681230>If things continue as they are, it's the expected result.Wrong, this basically assumes AI capabilities peter out right where they are now. If straight lines continue going straight then it'll be getting even crazier from here on out, that's the real default.https://ai-2027.com/
>>737681360the straight lines aren't going to continue straight. you're not getting your star trek longevity escape velocity bullshit. problem is claude already murdered white collar people (real humans) and next year optimus will destroy blue collar workers as well. from the billionaire point of view they reach their goals and you won't get anything you think will.
>>737681575>the straight lines aren't going to continue straightThen you have a literally trillion dollar investment strategy all lined up if you're right, considering like 5% of the American economy is predicated on the assumption that lines will continue to go up.
>>737681625which part of>problem is claude already murdered white collar people (real humans) and next year optimus will destroy blue collar workers as well.did you not understand? labor will be free for the billionaires and you'll be part of the permanent underclass.the reason they're investing in AI is to get you laid off. it's that shrimple. that's why they're investing in it. there's no goal they need to meet after that. dumbass.
>>737681692>permanent underclassA total meme. Either we go full post-scarcity or 99% of humanity just dies. Do you really think the elites will give you a pittance UBI once all labor has been automated? Assuming they don't unleash the killbots, they can just let everyone else starve to death because the marginal value of human labor will be 0.
>>737681761it's permanent if it lasts until you die and you have no escape>Either we go full post-scarcityif ai advances (it will) they wouldn't let plebs survive even if it was possible, retard. there are already too many people, objectively. there's a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% chance of your retarded commie utopia. ai bros are so retarded holy shit.
