These games are not very good.
How come?You spent thouand hours on them playing with bros, multi-battles were specially fun
>XDMcFucking kill yourself
>>737641782>XDLeave, Now
Worst part is they are soooo fucking slow. One sandstorm tick you have to watch all four pokemon animation of taking damage.
XD
>>737641782It had kid-friendly edgy 2000’s charm and it’s a little sad seeing now sanded down and homogenized the current games are.
>>737641782You're right. They're very great.
>>737641782I wouldn't call either of them the best game ever, but they're the 2 best 3D Pokemon games.
Still love them to this day, one of the best animations even compared to modern day games
>>737641782The only thing they're missing is the Stadium announcer.I mean game's literally called Colosseum and it has no announcer which is weird.
>>737641782theyre fine, the problem is(for me at least) that theres basically no meat to the game besides battling, and its just a linear straight line from one challenger to the other. Colosseum had a piss poor roster size toolooks better than anything GF's ever made tho
>>737641782I liked the sleazy vibe Colosseum had, shame they kinda sanitized it for the sequel
>>737641782They're the direction the games should has gone in the first place. Incorporating capturing into battles is a great idea with decent execution in both titles, and the series should had hard pivoted to near exclusive double battling format over 2 decades ago.They're also the only Pokemon games (well at least Gale since Colosseum isn't available) on the Switch with actual teeth, so that alone puts them well above the rest of the slop on the console.
They're pretty cool as complementary experiences to the main gen 3 games. Emulating just won't give the same experience
>>737642382>the series should had hard pivoted to near exclusive double battling format over 2 decades ago.Yeah it’s really hard to innovate combat wise in a 1 on 1 rpg. I get it’s for kids, but surely you can do something.
>>737642774Well, they continued the 1v1 system for casuals doing normal playthroughts and let 2v2 be the official tournament format for actual competitive players since then, seems fair enough
I thought they were pretty good and more engaging than most mainline games. Obviously they had there flaws like being very linear, having a very limited and generally bad roster as well as some other things, but they were a very refreshing take on the mainly single battle orientated entries.
>>737642240Why are you bullying that raichu that's 50 levels below you?
Gamecube just wasn't very good.
>>737641782I love Pokemon XD
>>737643653>XDfuck off
>>737642774>>737643058One of the DLCs for SV was purely double battles and that was actually kinda fun since I was doing more than use the water move on the fire man
>>737643727:3 XD =P o_O :D :> ;) b) >3 8-L
>>737644071<_<"
>>737643058This is one of many reasons Pokemon needs a hard mode or equivalent so they don't have to make every battle assuming the player is 6.
>>737641782The game made 13 year old me feel like an absolute gigachad, adventuring as an anti-hero with Rui on my shoulder.
>>737641782Colo is jank and has very little content, but Gale is kino
>>737641782They are the ultimate larp game. They got that epic gritty aesthetic, but when you actually sit down to play them, they're just kinda alright games. The worst part is just how slow the fucking battles are.
>>737642240colo/eggs dee fan talk about the actual game instead of the aesthetic or animations challenge impossible. kek
>Pokemon game>look inside>50 Pokemon
>>737641782Pokemon trying their hands at being edgy and being a Final Fantasy clone aesthetics-wise was a creative idea. NuGame Freak would never get behind this idea.The last creative idea nugame freak ever done was Pokemon Arceus.
>>737647217Please be in california
>purposefully gimp the gamecube classic release by not implementing home support effectively killing both in the crib >>737647878Someone who still posts P3 pretty much has to be
>Old>New
>>737642240People always parrot the animations when half of them are either stock effects or trash.I'll give you Earthquake though. Battle Revolution had my favourite take on it.
>>737650735>Stadium is just the model sliding up the Y axisGreat job anon. You really demonstrated your point or whatever.
>>737650868at least it's not standing on nothing up there
>>737641782This is prolly the reason Nintendo is drip feeding NGC games Most of them are "modern nintendo game but pretty shit".The only 2 games that arent released with the service.Fuck me, what was Wario World hot garbage.
>>737641782Yeah. It's really cool in theory. Like, you imagine Shadow Pokemon and the entire Team Cipher plan to be this really cool plan... but it isn't. The execution sucks. Shadow Pokemon barely behave differently from other Pokemon, the game's menus just tell them that they are different. These games are tell, don't show and that sucks.
>play Pokemon Colosseum as a kid>lil bro wants to play>tell him that he can only play in my own save file because the game doesn't support more>he cries because he wants to play his own new game>tell him that he should ask for a memory card for his birthday>tell my dad the same>his birthday comes>buys a second copy of Pokemon ColosseumAt least it came with a memory card but damn I laughed hard
It should've just been Stadium 3 (or 4 if you're a pedant)
>>737641782These games are fun but I'm sick of niggas pretending this is what mainline pokemon games should be like when there's no wild battles and there's not that much pokemons you can get in the game
>pokemon game with actual difficulty>makes the babby fans of this franchise for children seetheYou really hate to see it.
>>737651397>"actual difficulty" = 48 pokemon and most of them are johto shitmons
>>737651228It doesn't help that saves are tied to the cartridges on the handhelds. I'm sure your boomer dad figured it worked the same way for console games if he had to buy multiple copies of GB/GBA games for his kids.
>>737641782Just like any other pokemon game
>>737642240the pokemon animations are good but the effect particles from most moves are garbage
>>737651462Effort went into making teams with strong movesets for double battles, and it was especially challenging to catch a Shadow Pokemon during those battles. That's not much, but it's more than mainline Pokemon games usually do.
Colosseum 1 is greatAnd While XD tries new things, they're not the most well-thought out, like limited time catch events that force you to have to speedrun out of a dungeon.They still absolutely mog Game Freak.
>>737651157>Shadow Pokemon barely behave differently from other Pokemon, the game's menus just tell them that they are different.>These games are tell, don't show and that sucks.They have unique moves and can get so pissed off they start attacking the trainer who sent them out. They're mechanically different from normal Pokemon.
>>737654407Shadow mons in colo at least do suck. Gale absolutely fixed them.
>>737654407In Colosseum, the only shadow move is super boring. Especially when used by the AI which can't even get the hyper mode crit buff. It's just typeless take down. Yawn.In XD, most shadow moves are complete garbage. Oh wow, lock the AI that never switches out out of being able to switch out. That's a move slot wasted. Shout out to the one that clears shields too - I bet most players have never seen its animation in game. And the one that lowers the enemies' evasion. What a move.Seeing the enemy trainer being attacked in hyper mode is also hyper specific and most players will never see it outside of that one scripted event where the Makuhita does it to you. You barely see shadow pokemon doing anything bad. The shadow pokemon plan makes no sense from start to finish. >Okay, Step 1: we'll create these super strong (not reflected in gameplay) Pokemon (that also can't grow) and distribute them via the coliseums we secretly control. Step 2: World Domination!Also, if those idiots were smart, they'd just report you to law enforcement if you steal someone's Pokemon in a fucking tournament with an entire crowd worth of witnesses. It's just not well thought out and even worse executed.
>>737641782I liked Colleseum. I found Gale of Darkness to be boring. You dont get any interesting mons till nearly the end. Colleseum gave you the johto starters and the legendary beasts
>>737652662>the effect particles from most moves are garbageI'll give you Colosseum but XD has some of the best looking moves in the franchisehttps://youtu.be/r2GGENV8hn0https://youtu.be/CzSy-cTPMUYhttps://youtu.be/RxwcUgYVttIhttps://youtu.be/fF616mnXxGUhttps://youtu.be/8Q3S14bCc0Uhttps://youtu.be/B-1OHHSYP2ohttps://youtu.be/1MkWf_46rqQ
>>737655510Most of Colosseum's shadows are just Gen2 shitmon that are completely unviable. Do you want to use Ledian and 4-hit-kill Weedles?
>>737641782These are better yhan any mainlinr pokemon game (Not that it's a high bar)
>>737655708Colosseum making you use Pokemon you normally wouldn't is the best part.
>>737656517If "using Pokemon you normally wouldn't" means picking one of the few viable ones (like your starter Espeon + Entei, or your starter Espeon + a Johto starter, or your starter Espeon and... you get the idea then yes, everyone did that.The other shitmons got their hearts opened by walking around with you or having lotions applied to them till they orgasmed.