What went so wrong?Millenials blinded by nostalgia they cant see that normal maplestory is so Much better
>>737641808>>Millenials blinded by nostalgia they cant see that normal maplestory is so Much betterNo because I wasnt allowed in Classic
>Second closed test in October2026>Closed beta test in March2027>OPEN BETA TEST IN MAY 2027>RELEASE IN OCTOBER 2027
>>737643358>Padding out an old client that they already have access toNexon is retarded.
>>737643358If they wait for that long their user base is gonna die of old age.
>vicariously live through the streamers and experience the hype>beta is over and hype is deadNexon is retarded.
I will never play nu-maple
>>737643358Proof?
>>737641808>peakgrim
>>737641808They didn't make it truly classic. By shoehorning in the "modern" QoL and fixes they ruined what made classic classic.Should have picked a lane fuckers.
>>737644421Shut the fuck up dumb kid. You are really fucking stupid
>>737644052Why? Its 10x better
>>737644679Lol
>>737644463You're the fucking retard oneWhy advertise it as classic if it isn't truly classic?
>>737641808Wait is this picture actually real?
These idiots can't into class balance and will make it p2w, but it will be fun for a month or two due to the high server populationIf it releases, that is
>>737644748Dumb Millenial kill yourself
>>737645073Take your meds adhd kidYour opinion is discarded
>>737646159Answer the fucking question
>>737646093Lol
>>737646278? What question
I'm just gonna play royals If I want to smack snails for 20 minutes on maple island.I don't need Classic to experience the worst parts of old maplestory.
why hasn't maple experimented with more complex movesets with mobs? Like if they don't want to add more movesets to them, put in 1 high HP mob amongst 10 that buffs everyone so at least you have a reason to target something specific. Something that simple can't be that hard to implement.
>>737646312Would I piss my face if I pee while doing a handstand.
>>737647025https://voca.ro/1dtSLyuPTGyM
>>737647025Probably not the whole time but you're definitely feeling some rain once it starts slowing down
>>737647148https://youtu.be/9FLRHejWAo8?si=5kaV6zO1Mr4B-g3l
>>737641808The only real complaint I've seen (and I agree) is balancingAccuraccy sucks and mages are OP, but aside from that seems like a good foundation for Classic World
Soul vs Soulless
>>737648824You lost
>>737648874You have to go back to India, Rajesh.
>>737648824In-town stores are beta only, they'll be relegated to the Free Market in full release. Already confirmed on Discord
>>737641808Normal maplestory is fucking awful and so was classic
>>737648951Bad decision. Stores everywhere brought life to the world. Now towns are going to be barren
Wait, is it true that in the closed test you could turn 1 ore into 1 gem to sell it for more mesos?That sounds like a pretty good way to make money, although I remember ores not dropping that often in old MapleStory
>>737649417No one wants every town flooded with chinese bot shops
>>737649573So ban the chinese from the western version of the game? Shops in towns were comfy during the beta, and in live they'd probably be mostly limited to ch1 only
>>737648518Wrong but ok
>>737649681IP block doesn't work
>>737648951That fucking sucks
>>737649785So what? Chinese botters will flood the fm insteadTaking out an enjoyable feature because there are bad actors is a dumb move.
Just use basil market
>>737648824A random moment in old maple mogs the shit out of the peak moment of nuclassic.
>>737650210Don't they already have some kind of anti-bot measure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB3W56xVvOw/ourguy/ tore into the game's terrible community management. He dm'd discord mods and they didn't even respond to him. This shit is cooked.
>>737644679100x more useless shit on screen, you meanlmao
>>737650210Idiot wrong
>>737651401No, I'm genius right
>>737651282kek, this game is dead on arrival
a quick TSA to anyone trying nuple:do NOT start now and wait till juneeven if you do want to begin, DO NOT CREATE YOUR MAIN NOW, you will be FORCED to begin in a NEW SERVER during june summer eventthis is a WARNING!!!!
>>737641808There are autists who authentically love the grind, and then there are normies who I don't have any idea what they expect from this.
>>737651435Reported
here's a quicker one:just don't
>>737643358doa
legends isn’t doing it for me…
>>737651282>ai slop image in the first 5 secondsNot watching
>>737651282Is this dude disabled or is his SEAmonkey accent just making him sound stupid? He brings up the meat/lemon meta saying they have better ratios but that isn't even true of meat. It has the same ratio as red pots, it just heals more per cast so it's stronger. I really worry how much peoples' opinions are being influenced by retards like this who just get shit wrong and since the test was limited there aren't a lot of people around to correct them.
I actually love the lemon meta
>>737644081It's not real so there is no proof. Seething faggots just making shit up.
/msg/ here we hate the classics
>>737653595thank god, I don't want more zoomies begging Nexon for a fucking main story quest like that one faggot modern player
>>737651336>top: super popular game that cute girls play>bottom: niche game that only ugly 40 year old NEET losers playwhat a difficult choicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qjw3VFs9ZY
>>737644421You didn't play it. You won't play it. No one wants a 1:1 exact re-release of original maplestory's patches. Everyone that wants Classic World to exist wants it to have new content. You're a disingenuous piece of shit.
>>737643917>hype hype hype release the game now for muh hype so I can consoom it in a week and get on the next hypewould you niggers just fuck off back to your streamers? Some people actually play video games to enjoy them.
>>737653931Agreed, I don't want them to just release Orbis, then Ludi, then Leafre... I already memorized all of those mapsGive me those maps AND new original Classic content, like Forgotten Hollow for example
>>737653773You know what else girls play?
>>737641808Boring ragebait. It's not complicated why people lost interest in Maple. You must be Korean.
>>737653931the very reason classic is even a thing is because nobody wants your trash numaple
>>737651637This confuses me
>>737654284>It's either OG with no changes or numaple Remember to apologize to your parents for the abortion not working.
>>737643917The most viewers a streamer had playing the beta was a few hundred. It's not going to do shit when only a subset of people are following up on the game that closely. The majority of people are just normalfags waiting for it to come out.
>>737654215That's a pretty good choice compared to most gacha gamers who will play a game and then constantly cry how they keep adding males instead of just playing something else.
>>737654273You do realize that's not even gameplay of actual Maplestory but of the mobile game spinoff Maplestory M, right?
>>737654381disingenuous faggot, your type wants the slightest foot in the door for numaple garbage to infest the only version worth playing
>>737655127nobody cares about your dogshit opinion, the version of maple you want will never exist and that's a good thing
>>737655127>classic introduces qol changes>mald and sperg out on a 4channel dot org threadand what's that gonna change lil spergy?
>>737654468Dinofries had 1k across twitch and youtube combined and he wasn't even the most viewed on day 1.
>>737653773>vtumor>cute girl
We need the Frieren collab in Classic
>>737655353>1kholy fuck literally trillions of dollars being lost by not releasing it today hypebros lets all kill ourselves in protest
>>737648824I really hope monster bags will still being a thing. Killing afk people in town is fun as fuck. It will especially be funny if they keep stores in towns.
>>737651336>Press one button>Screen lights up with numbers flooding everywhere and you just hit everything>Fly all over the place quickly for pick ups or something that was off your screen>RepeatYeah, I can see why there's little interest in this in the west.
>>737648824The beta allowed anyone to get a store permit without spending real money. Not a good comparison.
>>737655815and yet modern maple has more players than all old school maple servers combined, curious isn't it
>>737655943Yeah, it's as if people like an official thing rather than a private server or essentially a Roblox like game. How do you think modern Maple would fare if you could only play it on private servers or on Maplestory Worlds?
>>737655815this shit is just embarrassing
>>737648951I wouldn't mind if it was implemented in way that the whole town wouldn't be littered with shops, like a specific shop permit only for towns, or its only allowed in one channel. I'm not fan of pay to win, but shop permits are one area where I might agree with it. If everyone could have a shop permit for free it would be way too competitive.
>>737656059If it's the same game then people would play it yeah. Tons of people play mapleland in korea (but still less than modern)
monkey: nuplelion: classic
>>737650315Mr. Curry destroyed it with the soulless redesign which sealed its fate. Was it ever confirmed the owner was Bogdan Raczynski?
>>737656136Because there's plenty of limitations on MSW. You can't even get a replicated experience there with areas getting divided among continents and how channel changing is in MSW. Mapleland is popular despite what people have to put up to play it.
>>737656136>every private server in existence disputing thisOK
>>737656412man if only mapleland was releasing a version in 4 days that doesn't have those restrictions...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cM3UY9olaY
>>737655041Is this also from the mobile version?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3WGacTrt6U&t=1180s
>>737654284It's not numaple. It's new content made in the spirit of classic maple. No one playing classic world wants shit like 2x exp coupons or fucking cygnus knights. But you're not arguing in good faith so it's not even worth going into more detail.
>>737657136Both of those are literally content from classic maple
you know what i don't want cyggies in but hoping they do add just to piss off the purists
>>737657293not that anon but classic doesn't mean just everything pre-BBPotentials were introduced pre-BB but nobody considers that shit classic
>>737657378Almost like my entire point is that nobody even knows what classic is supposed to mean because everyone has something else to say. To a lot of people classic maple is grinding in LHC for example which was post big bang
>>737657345If they do add Cygnus Knights one day, which I really hope they fucking don't, I hope they at least don't add Blessing of the Fairy to the game
>>737657639>It's almost like I'm personally over autistic about use of the term 'classic' despite the obvious connotation being older maplestory with changes tbd
>>737657880define "older maplestory"
>>737657639>To a lot of people classic maple is grinding in LHCI don't even know what that is, Lew Heaf City?
>>737657293This is how I know you're arguing in bad faith. Like >>737657378 said, classic =/= everything pre-big-bang. Classic encompasses a design philosophy, one that nexon slowly moved away from over the course of original maplestory's life until we ended up with modern maple. What people want out of Classic World is a version of maple that never strayed from that design philosophy and instead continued to create new content that remained consistent with that vision.
>>737644421I agree with you, but we are the minority. Everyone is just a tremendous faggot who lets their morals be corrupted for the sake of the easier path.
Min max grind culture culture has destroyed every mmo Nobody will play this game past a month except the losers who have always played private servers and will game everything out and play in their own 24/7 grind discord bubbles and refuse to interact with any other player not part of their grind cliche
>>737657979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5R3KyUOMBE>>737658071Okay so then tell me what that design philosphy is and why content like cygnus knights wouldn't fit in then?
do I'm assuming these "purists" won't be playing classic once it eventually drops?would be a massive faggot move if they do end up playing even after crying and screeching about qols 24/7
>>737643501>clientRetard alert
>>737651336>NOOOO YOU'RE COMPARING ENDGAME CONTENT WITH EARLY GAMEokay here you go
>>737658382who are you talking to?
>>737654468Lol you are a delusional idiot. The twins regularly got 2k+ even on day 8
>>737658291you just want to be called an ESL
>>737658248Cygnus Knights are reskins of already existing classes, something Nexon would proceed to do over and over and over again, which is why to this day there are only 5 "real" classesThey don't even change names when they change jobs like regular classes, they just go Cygnus Knights (1st job)->Cygnus Knights (2nd job)->Cygnus Knights (3rd job)
numaple with screen filling numbers is more interactive then genespamming (prebbabys won't admit this)
>>737658291do you think these losers have anything better to do?
>>7376586534th job isn't even close to being out yet in classic, Madwolf.
>>737658493So what is a reskin? A class that clearly plays different from the original and has a unique reason for existing, or something like rotten mushmom in forgotten hollow, a literal reskin of an existing enemy that is functionally entirely the same except for some number and attributes changes?
>>737641808>What went so wrong?>Millenials blinded by nostalgia they cant see that normal maplestory is so Much betterYou lost, sorry idiot.
>>737657880Did you not read my post? There is no straight definition for it. It's not supposed to have a literal/hardset definition which is why I'm calling you autistic.
>>737658851more like classic isn't even close to being out yet
>>737658961meant for>>737657920
>>737659009Do you think that bothers us, Madwolf?I suggest you worry about your own debilitating autism.
>>737657920prebigbang, you know before the design philosophy permanently changed
>>737658426the people who will inevitably think of or bring up that point
>>737658248What the fuck are those girls floating behind the characters?
>>737658961>>737659030>i don't want this content in >why? >it's not classic>then what is classic?>i dunnoyou sure would make a great game developer
>>737659325>literal opposite of what my post means
>>737658929SOVL
>>737658929Unprecedented levels of soul. They hate what they can't have.
>>737659271Those were effects from some OP rings that gave weapon attack I think
I want them to add Pirates.
I'm ngl I hope they never add 4th job but instead do something else
>>737663510Puritans on discord are fighting against pirates.
how can classic even come close to being better than private servers? transparent skills?
>>737664770being alive for more than two months and not having to switch your graphics settings to not crash on zakum
>>737664770Rolling content updates.Private servers like Royals and Legends run on the philosophy of strictly adhering to the pre-big bang version without ever making changes.Actual pre-big bang Maplestory had content updates, and that was part of the appeal.Royals and Legends also have an extremely boring endgame loop. Same old stationary damage check bosses, and leeching mage ults is the meta.
>>737663510let's focus on releasing the game first
>>737665262None of these are even remotely true
>>737666590>no argumentNo problem idiot.
>>737664770By actually having people playing itPrivate servers feel like a singleplayer game
>>737664770Just having a highly populated server. It'll probably do everything else worse than private server, AND will be p2w
>>737666870That's actually a good thing because it will filter out third world garbage like you.
>>737666961except turdies like koreans chinese and island chinese are the ones that like p2w
>>737666870I don't think it's possible to make a F2P MMO that isn't also P2W
>>737666961>I enjoy being a paypiggy to multibillion corps who don't care to deliver a good experience>hurr u are thirdieWhat a resentful yet useful idiot.>>737667007Subscription model with some paid cosmetics would be better. But idiots like the one above enjoy paying for inventory slots and pet autoloot
>>737667007every mmo is p2w realistically, if a game doesn't have p2w cash shop shit people will still RMT
>>737666625Royals has been releasing new raid bosses periodically
What do you consider "winning" in a game that is all about grinding? Grinding faster?
>>737667153buying power and gear upgrades to grind faster yeah
>>737664770Most people don't care about private servers, they want a permanent place where everyone goes to play the game. Where there's no risk of it disappearing on any random day. Private servers can make whatever changes they want but they'll never outperform the real thing, no matter what game. Knowing that it's there tomorrow and that people are playing will always be a better feeling than 2.5x experience rates.
>>737667439not reallymaple is only fun for short 1 month - 3bursts of timecoming back to a character you were "done" with makes no sense and you may as well make a new alt to get back into things
>>737667116Like?
>>737667559You clearly never even made it to 3rd job
Classicbros already won, even if Nexon "abandons" Classic World after a while I doubt they would ever just shut it down, and as long as they release everything up until temple of time that's good enough for meBut that's just a worst case scenario
new polls. what are your votes, /v/?
>>737643358Companies always do this shit of announcing and hyping their game too early and then releasing it too late when nobody gives a fuck anymore and then wonder why their game didn't do well.
>>737667734i had a 120+ on royals, cleared zakum, got bored, came back a year later and made a new character to 170, cleared horntail and now the server is still up and i have no reason to vote or log in since i've done everything i wanted
>did closed beta that oly bots adn streamers got into>game won't come out for 6+ months>abousltely nothing will have changed since the early betas>there will be a fully loaded cash shop on releasecalling it now
>>737658382>131>end game contentYou've never played the game
>>737667923>play shitty private server based around accelerated progression>It's shitWow who could have guessed
>>737651637>wanted to play new maple>didn't listen to people saying to wait>made a character>got a burn ticket>leveled another character using the burn ticket>went back to my "main" since I didn't like the character I made but pushed to 200 anyway>leveling is an absoulte fucking slog>tons of quests that have no navigation and just expect you to know where to go and where the person isThis shit is legit terrible but I'm getting there slowly.
>>737667670>>737667923Von Leon in Royals is the hardest boss right now and usually the raids consist of at least 3 full parties
>>737664770easier to RMT
>>737668193last i played was in 2018 but good to know, still its just an hp sponge
>still no WASD movement in 2026
>>737668269>lol jk I was talking out my ass
>>737667439>they want a permanent place where everyone goes to play the gameSome private servers have been running since 2015. I'd be shocked if Nexon ran classic for even five years without going post BB or doing something stupid.There's still many, many points against private servers but assurance that the game will still be there is probably the last point you want to make in support of big corporations. They'll shut it down without a second thought if they decide the money isn't there.
>decide to check MapleRoyals again>We are delighted to mark our 12th anniversary with youWhat the fuck? Has it really been that long?
>>737668269I mean most bosses in MS are but it’s really easy to die in this VL since he moves around alot and they gave him a literal insta-kill ability that fires off almost every 10 seconds if you don’t dodge it. A lot of the difficulty also comes from interparty communication and juggling all the parties’ bishops’ resurrection cooldowns.
>>737667439It's a good point but it doesn't fly with Nexon. They've even deleted entire classes from the game with no heads upStill, cw release will have many people playing it and it will be fun for a while, but the p2w and probable bad balance will harm its long term
>>737667076I just live in reality and don't let monetization ruin my enjoyment of the mushroom game.The problem with third world garbage like yourself is how entitled you are. You want everything to be free and don't understand how the world works. You think the server costs, development costs, maintenance costs should all be free charity.The sooner trash like you dies off, the better. The world needs less poor, yet entitled third worlders.
>>737665223aren't the two main private servers running for 10+ years straight at this point?
>>737668937>You want everything to be free and don't understand how the world works.I'm literally advocating for a subscription based model, you retarded cattle. Go ahead and make nexon richer by paying them for inventory slots
>keylets still seething
>>737667439from my experience pservers end up outlasting the retail games or they introduce some game-killing update to the retail version while pservers remain steady and "boring" (alive)
>>737668193Didn't know this, that's pretty cool.It doesn't change the fact that releases like this are extremely rare. I doubt they will be adding stuff like Empress or Root Abyss.The point remains that Classic will have rolling content updates and an actual team behind the project rather than a 1-man army. Also Royals will never get Forgotten Hollow.
>>737667846>unofficial fan pollsliterally means nothing
>>737668984>I'm literally advocating for a subscription based model,So you're advocating for Nexon to lose 2/3 of it's playerbase, good to know champ.
>ratioThe community really hates any attempts to deviate from nostalgia or make the game harder.
>>737669160>Cry about third worlders>But also want them in the gameWhat a retarded little redditor you are.
>ex-/v/ guilders now opting to hang out with discordtranniesBe honest guys does the classic /v/ guild have hope?
>>737669339I’ve already decided not to join because of people like you.
>>737669339I will only join /v/ guilds full of like-minded autists that refuse to use discord
>>737669430ok slopher
>>737667846all these polls are fuckin boring and every result is extremely predictable.there will never be a good poll because all the interesting suggestions get ratio'd, like whether or not to include world tour.
>>737653773ywnbaw
>>737641808I got a key but didnt play because why would I if my progress gets wiped
>>737669229No one is doing zakum before level 130 anyway
>>737669229>cherrypicking exactly one selectionMaybe it's just a bad idea.
>>737668703Shout outs to ThisPear
>>737669762Nah it's a good idea, but puritans like you get mad over changing the old formulas.You're the same cancer that nearly killed OSRS.
hot take: the game right after big bang wasn't actually that bad. it's just that it got worse and worse as it went on
>>737669808>still making baseless assumptions just because people don't like one (1) bad ideaOK Schizo
>>737667923Why would you even want to fight Horntail? It's just a stationary damage check with very high HP.This is the one thing modern Maplestory is far better than old Maplestory at; having an actual endgame.
>>737669880>still no argumentstill no problem, tardo
>>737669060Does anyone actually care about forgotten hollow? It's literally nothing burger tier "content". It's extremely unlikely that classic world will get actual major content like neo tokyo which I would take any day over forgotten hollow
>>737669954>Does anyone actually care about forgotten hollow?Yes. It's not all about endgame sperg. Forgotten Hollow is cool.
>>737641808I have ~10500 Legion and every job leveled up with plans to make Erel Light a legion champion and possibly make Kinesis my fifth one if that ever releases while I'm around, but even then I still thought Classic was fun.They're completely different games though. If modern maplestory is all about RNG gates, classic maplestory is all about the journey itself.
>>737669430Good, stay in the discord.
>hitting the same mobs for hours is a “”””””””journey””””””””
>>737670026Good post. It really shouldn't be a competition.
>>737669954It's a really cool place and thematically, adds to Victoria Island.
Root Abyss.Should it be in Classic at some point as endgame content? Perhaps reworked into a proper multi-stage PQ?
>>737670063no one show this guy what an rpg is or he'll freak out
>>737670181I have no fucking clue what the fuck that is so probably not
>>737670181Root Abyss is a cool location reminiscent of CWK but it should be added in WAY later. I'd prefer if they continue the path that Forgotten Hollow set in that they expand areas between areas (i.e. Forgotten Hollow is in deep Ellinia) such as expanding Lith Harbor for high-level play
>>737670370Cool bosses from early-big bang. Mechanically much more challenging and complex than pre-BB bosses, but not too crazy like post-2015 bosses.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RiQqyqFjfMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhGfAIGzf9Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDkUV12b_6whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jMKPfnFZc
>>737667846What useless-ass polls. All of those are like 90% agreement.>>737669114Nemi said she keeps an eye on them.
>>737668013have YOU nigger? 131 was pretty high pre-big bang
>>737671385>Nemi said she keeps an eye on them.probably said it to keep the autists happy and engaged. this will help soften the pain of the 2027 release.
looks like slopher wants another /v/ guild lads
>>737667846>QuestsQuesting should be rewarding. You can only do them once, so they should be impactful instead of just filler. And if you want filler, the correct way to handle it is to have a quest chain with the last quest's rewards correlating to the size of the chain itself. It shouldn't be a net negative doing quests no matter what they are, and that includes potential EXP gains for (solo) grinding the amount of time it takes to complete it.>Monster BookI never used this so I don't remember what it is>Dark SightIt's fine as is. It's not a PvP game.
>>737671573>not a pvp gamenga clearly has never played the drop game
>Asked in some other thread how would you profit off of classic and retain players to determine whether or not it's worth resources.>Told to kill myself nigger kikeI loved classic but how do you get some korean corporate execs to continue funding it? Would you be okay with QOL changes? Do you want gacha back? Should there be a prestige system in place perhaps? Even WoW Classic had to pivot right? It's just interesting to me what will happen in the future. I personally love that I was able to grind and talk with friends all day without losing focus.
>>737671910Just be f2p and let the nolife whales consoom all the gachapon and 2x exp tickets
>>737671910It's going to have pay2win and anyone screeching otherwise is living in denial.
How long will it take for new patches to come out? I assume it will be faster than the original but I'm not terribly interested in playing a game that doesn't even have 3rd job and my nostalgia is more for stuff they added later.Personally I'd really like Arans. That was the class I had the most fun with back in the day and was sad I never really got to end game with it.Will they add stuff like NLC? I remember having fun in places like Singapore and Showa, too.Will they add all the old stuff up to a point, say pre-big bang? Or is it going to be like a new slate? I have to imagine most people have nostalgia for up to ToT
i cant wait for nexon to add arcane river to classic maplestory so that we can finally get out of the tutorial and play the real maplestory
>>737671910millions of cosmeticsfast travel ticketstp stonespetspet itemsAll the ways to fund the game without going too far into p2w are literally right there. They just need to focus on keeping a playerbase that will buy those existing things instead of jewing themselves by pushing the breaking point and trying to add shit like exp tickets, gacha or purposefully make the game shittier to sell garbage.
>>737672258i cant wait to add my dick to your asshole
>mapleroyals pop doubled after the testKek based
>>737672010They're not adding new shit. it's classic until zakum and that's it
>>737671910>Universal cash shop for modern GMSThis is an important step because anything that happens in modern GMS affects Classic GMS too, and GMS is unironically the only version that doesn't have it now for some godawful reason.>Permanent items in gacha boxesI'm not going to pretend it isn't a money maker, but I also think nexon should include a pity system where opening up boxes gives you stamps or some other retarded shit that'd allow you to choose a permanent cosmetic of your choosing.>CollaborationsSame with the gacha boxes for permanent versions, collabs are money makers. There are a lot of groups out there that'd be willing to collab with Maplestory while also bringing in obscene amounts of spending >NPC Store PermitsI believe regular Store Permits should be purchaseable via Meso or reward points, but NPC ones that sell for you should be NX-only or an event reward. These also make a lot of cash too>EXP and Drop rate cardsI don't believe these will be NX-only. Mostly because Maplestory nowadays absolutely shits them out onto the player to the point where people genuinely can't use them all. I had 100 thirty-minute 3x EXP cards expire on me because I just couldn't fucking grind for that long. I see Classic doing the same, with XP cards being an event reward or a bossing reward instead of NX only.
>>737670181Not a fan of the theme personally
>>737672524>They're not adding new shit.They already did add new shit though
Are pets and pet skills permanent? I don’t care about cosmetics but pets are actually really useful
>>737672742kys
>>737672734What is wrong with the theme?
>>737672785Pets are most definitely going to be 90days with requiring a water of life to revive them. Pet skills are permanent.
>>737672785Depends on what you mean by permanent. In modern maplestory, pets come in three versions>90 days>Permanent>30 Days (special)The first two are basically free, with pets being given to players left and right and waters of life being purchasable with reward points garnered through killing bosses.The last one is for vac pets with special waters of life.As for skills, they're permanent.
Nexon should go full lewd in promoting Maplestory Classic.
>>737672524Almost everyone will have lost interest within 6 months if nothing new gets added
>>737673194cope modernfag
>>737655815What happened...? This looks silly lmfao.
>>737673194>within 6 monthsWhat do you think classic is launching with and how long do you think it'll take players to hit 120+ with 1x rates?
>>737673421It's not really an accurate portrayal but I doubt the ones saying it care since that's what shitposting is.May as well say everybody in Maplestory Classic has the same accuracy as the warrior while showing specifically an archer missing on the pre-nerf 2nd job mobs and that screenshot of a bandit from a previous closed test missing on a snail at level 50.
>>737673267You are completely delusional anon. It is already confirmed Ludibrium is being added.
>>737673436It'll take a good while, but very little stops the mega grinders. In Artale I grinded Vikings and Phantom Watches till 133. There was a CB that exclusively did that and was 150 before even Aqua came out. While it was 1x rates from 101+, the classes were stronger than their OSMS counterparts. But don't think the no lifers won't be willing to get to level 100 with Victoria Island alone.
>>737672982chibi sex
>decide to go back to Legends to fill the void now that the beta is over>doesn't even come close to scratching the itch, can barely bring myself to grind some mobsGod, they can't release this game soon enough
>>737673893What does Legends lack that the closed beta had?
>>737673893One of the reasons why I'm just sticking with modern maplestory until classic drops is because of its permanence. Private servers are soulless and transient.
>>737673624Anon you can literally open maplestory right now pick a random class, and start clearing multiple platforms with the press of a single button while flash jumping around the map, at level 15 in first job.
>>737673859>but very little stops the mega grindersSure but we're explicitly talking about>almost everyone
>>737673918I tried numaple last year, hadn’t played since like 2010. It was literally, unironically, not even exaggerating, the worst video game experience I have had in the last 10 years
>>737673918Legends and Roylels have been around for over 10 years.
>>737673859>It'll take a good while, but very little stops the mega grinders.Correct, which is always funny that people clamor for garbage mechanics like 2x coupons to help "close the gap" for people with jobs or whatever, as if the people who are determined to stay at the top aren't also going to take advantage of mechanics like that.>>737673912>What does Legends lack that the closed beta had?An active playerbase all within a narrow range of levels from each other, a version of the game the isn't completely "solved" and revolves around a garbage meta of HP washing and leeching, a player economy that isn't inflated to shit, a lack of shitty event npcs cluttering up every corner of every town, and most importantly, soul.
>>737673893>grass is greenerI feel like quite a few people will drop classic in a month tops. Mostly the people who are so adamant that it needs to be released asap.
>>737673918The irony of this post is that Legends/Royals have been around longer than original maplestory was even in pre-BB. The threat is there that they get shut down, sure. But it's more likely that after 2-3 years, nexon will just pull the plug on the classic servers anyways. Or keep wiping and relaunching.I'm not saying legends/royals are good, royals in particular is just a way for the admins to powertrip. Just that they've been around and are unlikely to shut down short of a DMCA.
>>737674321Did you play in the closed test or are you just spouting shit from the sidelines?
>>737673918see>>737668543If Classic doesn't make enough money. It will be shut down permanently within a year.
>>737674318Legends has like 2k players right now. That's 1k more than the daily average, likely due to freshmen looking for a post-playtest fix.You sure there's no early game population?
>>737674003>>737674353Blizzard took their biggest classic private server behind the shed right before they planned on announcing their own. Doubtful that the same thing will happen but it's smart to be skeptical in current year.
>>737674368I did actually but that's 100% irrelevant to my post. I personally am looking forward to it and expect to play it for awhile, I'm just speaking from general experience with people who are always looking towards things that aren't out yet and unable to enjoy what is already here.
>>737673194The slippery slope to adding big bang content has its roots in this type of thinking
>>737674445Nostalrius was barely online before Blizzard announced Classic.Roylels and Legends have been around for over 11 years. Nexon have aggressively DMCA'd several private servers in that time but could never take the big two down.
>>737674415I'm standing in Kerning City right now and it's pretty dead aside from some people standing outside KPQ afk, not even talking in-game, likely just chatting in a discord server.>>737674482There's always going to be falloff of players after launch. I don't think anyone's delusional enough to think the game is going to maintain 80k concurrent players or something. My point is, that the people that have been waiting for Classic World have been biding their time with other OSMS alternatives and now that some of us have had time with it, even in an unfinished state, nothing else is able to fill those shoes.
>>737674525If you want an actual active playerbase aside from a few thousand turboautists to stick around after the initial hype has died off there needs to be new updates. That's simply how it works. Without new things for people to talk about and get excited for they lose interest and move on.When the lessons from the first run are taken into account OSRS has proven that it's possible for this to be done really well.
>>737674793>There's always going to be falloff of players after launch. I don't think anyone's delusional enough to think the game is going to maintain 80k concurrent players or something.Cool, nothing to do with what I posted.>My point is, that the people that have been waiting for Classic World have been biding their time with other OSMS alternatives and now that some of us have had time with it, even in an unfinished state, nothing else is able to fill those shoes.That's cool. I stick by my belief, based on experience over my entire life and statistics of retention that a lot of the people who are constantly looking towards things that aren't released yet and express an inability to enjoy what is already out are also more likely to stop playing whatever they were looking forward to much sooner than others.
>>737674793>not even talking in-game, likely just chatting in a discord server.how do you know they aren't talking in guild chat or alliance chat?
>>737674816That's a lot of words to say classic should have big bang content because player count. Those steam charts have made everyone insane
>>737674003Yeah but starting them now just feels bad. You're 10 years behind. It's either starting a new pserver that may close at any time or start an old pserver when its golden age was long ago.
>>737674893>That's cool. I stick by my belief, based on experience over my entire life and statistics of retention that a lot of the people who are constantly looking towards things that aren't released yet and express an inability to enjoy what is already out are also more likely to stop playing whatever they were looking forward to much sooner than others.Duly noted Nostradamus.
>>737675065no retard I'm saying it needs updates of some kind because without an active player base you don't have a game, and if they're competent they can come up with brand new stuff that retains the soul of the original game whilst keeping people engaged
>>737674318> a version of the game the isn't completely "solved" and revolves around a garbage meta
>>737675204>if they're competentThey felt bad for what they did to Nemi's game so they gave her a reparations budget to make a single new area. Looking into the future the burden of proof is on Nexon to show they are more than greedy vampires but odds look bad
>>737675260>a game that's still in development and will continue to receive content and balance updates after it launches is in the same state of being solved as a static version of the game from nearly 20 years agoOk
>>737675714??????Dumb zoomer
>>737675917Care to elaborate on your point or are you just going to shitpost?
>>737675714>being solved as a static version of the game from nearly 20 years agoboth Legends and Royals have constant patches and class changes so that's a weird argument to make. I was just making fun of the fact that people will decide on a meta within a week of launch and will continue to do so with every update.
>>737676215I'll give Royals credit for adding Von Leon, but it's still not enough to fix the shit preBB endgame, and I'm guessing they have drawn a line there.Class changes and adding content are two completely different things. Puritan preBB cucks usually hate all new content.
>>737675996I dont reply to stupid idiots like youHave you tested how low IQ you have? Seek medical help kid
>>737673893just play Southperry in MSW bro
>>737676325well you said balance updates as if PSs are using some static version of skills.But yeah we'll see once classic hits HT/PB where they go from there. Royals/Legends also has Auf, Euphenia and all the world tour maps/content so we'll see if Classic ends up doing anything similar.
>>737676724I'm not whichever anon you're referring to. I just care about content updates.I would be genuinely impressed if Roylels added Edelstein and Resistance classes. It's been long enough, I don't see what the problem would be with bringing them in and rebalancing them for preBB
>>737644421this, every classic game should be no changes till then last patch then branch off into new content, classic+
>>737676801people think they are gay and shit is my understanding.
>>737644421>Should have picked a lane fuckers.It seems like they did.
>>737676876Those same people cum in their paints over fighting zakum and horntail every day.
>>737676215>both Legends and Royals have constant patches and class changesCool, let me know when they get rid of HP washing and leeching. Cause as long as those two things exist they will completely dominate the metagame and expected player progression. Of course classic world is going to quickly develop its own set of best practices that will shape its meta, but if you try and build a character in classic the way you would in a private server like Legends, you will not get good results. Trying to reallocate AP into HP will ruin your character btw.>Royals/Legends also has Auf, Euphenia and all the world tour maps/content so we'll see if Classic ends up doing anything similarI think you'd be surprised at the number of people that don't want any of those things added to Classic, me included.
>>737677046That was just in response to the claim that > in the same state of being solved as a static version of the game from nearly 20 years agoBesides, again, with any game, a meta will form in 24 hours, let alone a week. As soon as classic comes out, it will be flooded with videos of people saying that you need to play exactly like this.
>>737671910wow classic didnt pivot it keeps relaunching classic->expansion progress servers over and over, they do run a seperate changed classic server though but its not as popular as just classic/classic TBC/classic wrath
>>7376740002011-2012 maple would have been great for you, but after the RED update the game went far past the point of no return.
>>737651637why would you wait for CW just to leave them not knowing anything, being dropped in over level 200 and expecting them to get on the daily boss grind, the worst part of the game. thats not what classic players would want
>>737641808It amazes me how games, typically Korean grinders, with graphics obviously targeted towards children (and were played mainly by such) are either so popular among the, now much older, population, who should've moved from this type of a typical time waster for kids, or at least heavily shilled. This is just too silly to be taken seriously by me, at least.
>>737677639Ok
>>737672798Well like I said its just personal, I think I just like the whimsical nature of the world of Maplestory with its slimes, stumps, and shrooms with underlying darker tones rather than a sleepy hollow halloween area that draws too close from real life fables
>>737677887So you also disapprove of Ludibrium, Ariant and Magatia?
>>737677639Born to grind, forced to roll.
>>737677927Ludibrium is a town that built the towers to stop time so that they can forever live in childlike innocence, but the deterioration of the towers causes weirdly dark dimensional anomalies to appear the deeper you go in the clocktower, not sure what would be an equivalent parallel there that you're thinking of would be an issue for me, but I don't mind it and I like it, I have a bigger problem with Omega SectorAriant is fine even though its got the Arabian nights tropes I think their exotic enough to create a suspension of disbeliefnot a fan of the Romeo and Juliet cameo but Magatia's clash of zenumist vs alcadno philosophy is an interesting dynamic and original enough for me so I don't take issue thereBasically I like to stick to high fantasy if possible with less references to goofy real life stuff in general maybe with exceptions those are my 2 cents
things I want in classic day one. stop me where you think I'm over the lineno piratesludi pqzakumhorntailorbis pqmagatia pqquest exp rates are tripledquest can be completed remotelyWASDfailed scrolls don't take up an upgrade slotmounts are given with each job advancement starting from third jobtransparent skills and player damageall bosses have 100% drop ratesstat related perks (str gives stance, dex increases critical rate, int reduces mana consumption for skills, luk increases avoidability)6 player limit for raidsraid drops like zhelm are tradeable within the accountraid drops are instanced and have daily pick up limit.no boss entry limitmonster carnival 1 & 2party play exp bonus outside of LHCLHCtheme dungeons for those who want to level up but can't find a party (mushroom kingdom, kerning square, rienna strait, gold beach, chryse, silent crusade, neo city, etc)area bosses have a universal 15 minute respawn (mano, stumpy, mushmom, pianus, etc)PQ rewards drop in bonus room (broken glasses, goddess wristband, symbol of eternal love, etc)players lose aggro if they leave party during a raidall raids have a re-entry limit to combat raid dcing.
>>737677639>actually when you grow up you should stop liking the things you thought were cool as a kidJust because you're miserable doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>737679681>wasting your life on video games and being a manchild is okNO its not grow up loser
>>737679443?
>>737682987What
>>737674318Okay so classic world is just good because it's new and popular, because if you wait literally just a month after launch it won't be like that anymore
maple without ludi is not maple
>>737685469holy fuck, nostalgia nuke
>>737685469>People are going to zoom past ludi pq levels before ludi even gets released
>>737672982i literally look like this lol
>>737672785I wish they got rid of pets as a necessity for picking up large amount of items on the ground. At least introduce an alternative
>>737685979I don't get why everyone assumes Ludi is going to be balanced for the same level ranges or in the way it was in original maple.
>>737679443>no piratesYou've already lost.
>>737672982
>>737688913>ZOOMERSHIT
>>737689759Pirates came out 19 years ago, my dear retard.They are 100% coming to Classic btw.
>>737679443see the thing with increased exp rates is that it doesn't solve anything. Yea, you get to get better skills and equips and more quests available to you but if the grinding and combat is the same, what does it actually achieve? They need to make the combat more complex so people actually like grinding instead of something they have to do also this isnt numaple, transparent skills isn't necessary if they don't overdo it on the effects. I can concede if its to make your game less laggy but not being able to see your or other skills is soulless
>>737690035>They need to make the combat more complex so people actually like grinding instead of something they have to doNot true.This isn't nuMaple. People are not playing for complex gameplay.
>>737690113>implying numaple has complex gameplay
>>737690035thats the exact opposite reason im playing classic, gay overly animated skills suck, hopping around throwing a single ninja star is cool
>The first sign of decayThe patch before this was Temple of Time and Ellin PQ release. Aran release was comfy too, only after 2010 with Evans and Dual Blades the game started to really turn to shit
Anybody got in the test, how is it?Is it like the good old times?Or people are just as quiet as they are in all other online games nowadays?
>>737690238Yeah it does
So what do >we think of the new scroll system?For someone who only ever used 60% and 100% scrolls it doesn't change anything
Please Nexon, do NOT add these to the game
>>737656064>will you let me racist towards you>no
Just played two pservers in the meantime and here are my findings:Legends >early game community is decent >the client is outdated and lacks a lot of QoLRoyals >early game community is nonexistent>much better QoL and UI
>>737692502Artale had a nice early game community, I managed to do a lot of KPQ and LPQ
>>737656064>>737692442>t. jeet
>>737689963Ok zoomer whateverGen z is cancer
>>737694017You should've just prefaced from the start that you're an idiot, anon.
>>737694017you lost, millenicuck tranny
>DUDE I HATE GRINDINGWhat if we made the grind take even longer, took away a ton of shit and called it classic?>SIGN ME THE FUCK UP
>>737694372The grind is shorter in classic tho
>>737694372>What if we made the grind take even longer, took away a ton of shit and called it classic?
>>737694410Proof?
>>737695683I don't think people were hitting lv50 in 80 hours of playtime in oldMS.Though I still want the exp curve to be reduced for 50+.
>>7376905024th job giving mages nukes was the first big mistake. Oh, and NLC before it. The economy broke with the OP pots and leveling spots.
>>737680669>Just be a real life grinder bro make that dosh be just another tax cattle slave to normies and womenIf you have / make enough money to meet your needs in a sustainable fashion, money stops mattering.>LonelyMen's existence is intrinsically lonely, especially if you look like that guy. You can only cope with it and eventually be at ease with yourself. Many married guys with kids feeling lonely out there
>>737685469Orbis and El Nath will come soon after release, they have to for 3rd job. Then Ludi.
>>737696953maple originally launched with orbis and el nath, not having them in classic world is genuine retardation
>>737697103It did not, you silly. It originally launched with Victoria Island only and no 3rd job.
>>737697628It launched with Orbis and El Nath but NOT 3rd job or zakum. 3rd job was added about half a year later and Zakum was added on the 1st anniversary
RELEASE THE FUCKING GMAE YOU STUPID GOOKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737697837They will in 2027.
>>737698151
>>737697837Nexon releases schedule this year is probably going to be>Uncrowned demo in june>Global Mabinogi Mobile in the months after that>Maplestory Classic World likely around late october or early november (so it launches at least a couple weeks before the maple winter update)That is assuming it will be ready for this year to begin with however, we know Nexon NA is fucking stupid so it might actually be delayed for 2027
>>737698279There is absolutely no way they are releasing Classic at the same time as GTA 6. Even Inkwell recognized the launch of GTA is a problem.Classic will 100% release in 2027.
>>737698403Who the fuck cares about gta6?
classicbros have so little faith in their game they are already dooming it to 2027
>>737698451I know you're a reclusive mushroom, but it's a huge game, and there is no question a chunk of the would-be classic audience will be buying and playing GTA.
>>737698403I highly doubt very many people interested in MSCW are also interested in the new GTA.
>>737698507>>737698675Nexon has also already shown they are likely scheduling classic world around dead periods in nu maple, which is why they timed the test to coincide with a complete dead week with no events running which doesn't actually happen that often.If it doesn't launch before the winter update then I highly doubt its because of gta6 but just because it isn't ready yet
>>737698675Delusional.
>>737698507FOMO to relive an old MMORPG > FOMO of a single player game.
>>737698476The doomers are a specific subset of fags always posting in this threads, don't group every classicbro with them.
>>737698476as much as I love old MapleStory and I'm sure I'm gonna play it a lot, there is no way to know how popular it's gonna be
>>737700495you are for thinking anyone wants to play florida simulator in [current year]I mean sure maybe if you're still a kid
>>737698989The game is ready though. Most people were happy with the playtest and its obvious the hard work is done (server back end capable of handling hundreds of players on one map).They said they are now focusing on balancing and fixing accuracy. I can tell you right now this does not take months. This should take hours of work at best.Whether you are prepared to admit it or not, GTA is a factor.
>>737701943Anon, you are a complete idiot. Stop trying to speak for the broader market as if you have even the slightest clue.
>nerfing archer and warrior>nerfing the worst 1st and 2nd jobsWhy
>>737702030>guys and gals that want to play cute chibi game also want to play nigger simulatorI don't think so. As one of the 5,000 people that will play MSCW my opinion is valid and true. There is no overlap and I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with GTA6. Are you black or something? Go back where you came from.
>>737701973inkwell literally said it's not ready
>>737698476Because it's clear to see any oldfag doesn't want what Classic offers, it's mainly people who started in Big bang and only bloomed during reboot or late-numaple. Inkwell may as well make Big Bang Classic or Reboot Classic because all the oldfags are gone. The only pre-bignbang players interested in Classic are the Artale crowd who came in through the Worlds announcement in 2025.
>>737702147>i played a closed playtest, therefore I am in a position of authority and know exactly how the market works>no I don't have dataYou're a complete and utter idiot, anon.
>>737702189>boohooo inkwell doesn't want to make a shitty purist server that will die in 2 weeks waaaaah waaaaah waaaah
>>737685469True that. Ludi is sovl.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHbjhiWic0U&list=RDiHbjhiWic0U&start_radio=1
>>737702176>i trust inkwellI already know you're stupid, no need to remind us.
>>737697721You mean the full release? Then sure, but the beta version of the game did not release with Orbis. People rawdogged to like level 90 killing Tauromancers. It's better to have people in Victoria Island for the first month or so until the unemployed get to level 70, then we can have orbis.
Every time you do KPQ you are committing a crime
>>737702435Nobody cares about your shitty beta. The real release had orbis and el nath.
>>737702610ngmi. Anyway, I'm glad the team isn't retarded and doesn't want to make EXACTLY what the game was in 2005. It makes more sense to have Orbis release later, because that's what happened in the game, both in korea and GMS (beta). If it comes out with Orbis, then deep Sleepywood will be useless.
>>737702743Again nobody cares about your shitty beta, most people actually want a game with stuff to do in it and areas to explore instead of being drip fed content like a shitty mobile game.
>>737703340You will spam kpq and you will like it
>>737702448Damn, she's a qt
I miss the EMS events
>>737703941
>>737702115The only thing they nerfed with archers is hitting 4 monsters instead of 6. All crit classes got a crit nerf in damage and chance to crit. Archer is where it has always been. It's always been a serviceable 2nd job class since PKB and their mobbing skill covers some of their 1st job weaknesses. 1st job is a little bit of a slog because you're mostly normal attacking and not using Double Shot.
>>737703941>>737704152supreme world was also KINOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSdFBHVWNJMWhat a shame we went from that to blocking dutch players from trading and removing all accented names
>>737704213I heard they nerfed the arrows hitboxes and made DEX stop giving acc/avoid or was that all bullshit
>>737704152woah, 4chan
>>737702448AI Art.
>>737680669>became addicted to money insteadlmao.
>>737704213Why is there always someone doing damage control for nexon? >The only thing they nerfed with archers is hitting 4 monsters instead of 6.Yes, that's a considerable nerf... You're also missing the % damage nerfs to all their skills. As well as the changes to hitboxes plus now they miss
We need Ludi
>>737704469Dex is the only stat to give accuracy outside of equipment that gives flat accuracy. Luck doesn't give any accuracy benefit now. Not only that 2nd job Archer is far from horrible in OSMS. I wouldn't rank it as the worst 2nd job. Gunslinger is out right dog shit until it's 4th job, the only thing going for them is mobility. Then you had more mediocre jobs like bandit which can only do one on one damage in melee range while warriors can mob, then the old F/P Wizard that either needs a bunch of funding to have the magic accuracy to take down Ludi mobs with Poison Brace, or stuck in Fire Arrow hell.Archer gets a bad rap because people can't adapt to the play style of actual spacing, and how shit 3rd job was. Strafe single target damage is dog shit, the only good elemental shot is Blizzard and it isn't for damage, and AR/AE is an additional tool, but is weak compared to some other 3rd job mobbing skills.
>>737698459>japanese class in korean game>mysteriously vanishes from the game one day
>>737706619Don’t AR/AE solve the issue of spacing?
Haven't thought about MS for ages. I bet it's faggy as fuck now. Anything cute was a troon magnet.
>>737707348AE/AR is a different tool. Ideally you'll be using it in a way so you aren't getting hit while using it. You still use Arrow Bomb and Iron Arrow in 3rd job. It's really not smart to stand in a pack of monsters that two shot you.Uses for AE/AR: You have platforms you can just use it freely like at Spirit Vikings. You can aggro enemies and place a Puppet on another platform and AE/AR while the mobs are attempting to get at the Puppet. Enemies don't have a magic attack and have a low knock back rate like at Goby. You can also use it as a method to aggro a bunch of monsters like jump shooting with AE/AR and then placing a Puppet out of reach. In Aqua you can swim above Bone Fish and Squids and use it to aggro them and quickly swim to a platform to place a Puppet on. Obviously if you want to be further away then AB/IA will be preferable to use.
>>737707645korean game run by koreans so it's notkms ONLY added gender swap pills recently and there's still no same gender marriage
>>737707738You seem to know your archer shit. Thoughts on this build for classic?
>>737707909I haven't played Classic so all I can do is theory craft Archer builds based on the datamine and what I've seen from streams. Personally I'd go for crit and range before a mana consuming attack skill, but this is based off my OSMS knowledge. Generally you're strapped for cash so being able to utilize sniping spots at HHG1 will be helpful. I hope they fix arrows downward targeting since I've heard from a friend that got into the Closed Classic Test that all Archer shots habe a problem going downward. I'm having doubts on Focus. Once they rebalance the 2nd job advancement enemies to either have less avoid and/or be a lower level accuracy won't be a problem. I can see the skill that slows monsters to be beneficial in 2nd job coupled with Power Knock Back and your mob skills to trigger it. This'll depend on the avoidability formula and how valuable avoid will be on non-thief classes.I don't think Arrow Blow vs Double Shot will matter. I think Double Shot will be better when coupled with crit chance and crit damage gear, but you probably won't scroll anything lower than 3rd job gear for crit rate and damage in which Strafe will be better than either option. There is no way Strafe won't be in the game, it's an iconic 3rd job Archer skill, even if it is undertuned.
Accuracy. Completely fucked every class up (besides mages of course who are even stronger in classic for some reason) until 2nd job, they just replaced hp washing with acc washing to get through 1st job, then you'll have to pay money to reset after you've got mastery which suddenly brings your accuracy in line with mobs.It's kind of hard to test anything when you miss 80% of the time.
>>737708476Is Final Attack going to actually be a viable skill now, or is it going to be like vanilla where putting even a single point into it will gimp your endgame builds?
>>737708476The slow monster passive seems kind of pointless when you would kill most things in 1-2 hits
>>737707909What site is this image from?
>>7376978376+ months atleast
>>737708680funny enough archer is the one class you still don't want final attack on, because it's SLOWER than a regular attack. every other class gets a bump from it.
>>737703941I hope that thing had some kinda jump/slam attack that wiped a large group of unsuspecting players out
>>737667559>coming back to a character you were "done" with makes no sense and you may as well make a new alt to get back into thingsholy numaplepinoygroidyou're the reason the game was run into the ground to begin with
>>737708728I understand. In first job it won't be useful. It'll only be useful in conjunction with PKB and a mobbing skill. We didn't have it in OSMS and 2nd job archers managed well without it. I don't see it mattering in 3rd job training spots and beyond. Can go Focus or that, both are meh skills in the end.>>737708680They'd need to change FA. As of right now FA for the Hunter is worse than either Arrow Blow for single targets and Arrow Bomb for mobbing since it makes you do an animation to do it and you'd rather use another single target or multi target attack (Hunter FA is 3 targets at 100% damage compared to Arrow Bombs 4 targets at 120% damage). For Crossbowman it'll interfere with Iron Arrow. You want to be training at places where you spam Iron Arrow anyway and at 2+ targets IA does a bunch of damage (Looking at the formula the first hit of maxed Iron Arrow does 190% damage, then takes the 190% value and reduces it by 20% so the second hit for Iron Arrow does 152% damage). For single target attacking FA does out perform 1st job skills by a little, but there is no doubt it'll be out performed by Strafe in 3rd job.The only way FA will be good on an Archer is if they did the post Bug Bang update on it and it automatically adds another line of damage without the player going into a Final Attack animation.
>>737709209Yeah, there were plenty of people that take half year or year breaks and come back to grind their old character. You just didn't throw old characters away after 3 months unless you didn't vibe with the class.
Hope everyone filled out the survey cause there's no way they're remembering or paying attention to anything that isn't in it, and that's what they'll have to present to their bosses for the progress plan.I made sure to put in that I want it much more like modern maple cause shit was way too slow and having to play with other people is gay as fuck.
>>737709249how do u feel about hunters getting avoidability on their mastery skill and xbows getting def ignore?
>>737709762I've always been a Crossbowman. I'm a little ambivalent towards it at the moment. The defense ignore will probably only be good for bosses since it'll have enough opportunities to trigger to actually matter for DPS. For standard training you probably won't even notice your kill speed increasing. For avoidability, what matters is how easy it is for non-thieves to get additional avoid and if there's a generous avoid formula for avoid to matter in lower amounts. Let's be real, in OSMS +20 accuracy meant nothing for archers. So if we get a good avoidability formula then dodging more attacks can help with potion costs, but if I'm being realistic chances are the avoid on the Mastery won't do anything. I don't think either one will be impactful outside of niche cases like the ignore defense 20% of the time.
So are you going to buy gay NX cosmetics or will you be a F2P Chad?I'm going with the gay NX cosmetic, personally
Do we all agree that binding a boss in place just so you can do damage to it is terrible game design? Another one is having to hold down a 5 second long iframe just to wait out a full screen one hit KO AOE. This is all dogshit game design that just provides a frustrating experience rather than a smooth one. Damage reflect and weapon cancel werent this cancer.
>>737710979I'll be a f2p chad who sells mesos for leaf points and then buys items with those.
>>737711049damage reflect and damage cancels are just as bad, they just make you waste pots while you wait for unavoidable attacks to slam you. No maple bosses are good, it's a cope on both sides of the aisle.
>>737711049Yeah hopefully none of that stuff gets added into Classic. Bossslop should stay in numaple.
horntail and PB are some of the worst boss designs in any game I've ever played.Never played numaple but the fucking horseshit of marionette is AWFUL, guaranteed deaths and the only way to avoid it was exploiting how it couldn't force you off of ropes/ladders. And then it was just a 10 second long stun that could still very easily kill you with no recourse.Just total horseshit. I don't know how anyone enjoyed that shit.
>>737711049>Damage reflect and weapon cancel werent this cancer.They absolutely were in vanilla>killing boss, everything going fine>it uses damage reflect>instead of starting an animation and waiting for it to finish before applying the reflect, like a sane video game would do, it just immediately applies the reflect frame 1 of the boss's animation>you just instantly die due to forces you cannot comprehend>the only way to deal with this is to set a timer and give it generous leeway where everyone stops attacking 5-10 seconds before pink bean puts up his "fuck you" reflect shield>repeat this 200 times over the course of the fight, remember to stock up on cheese wheels to make up for any mistakes or lag
>>737656074Peak
>>737668193Royals has medals now?
>>737711049Bind exists so you can have mental breaks in the fight otherwise you have to be completely locked in for 30 minutes straight.>iframe to wait out a full screen KO I'm not sure what you are even referring to here, the only times you have those kinds of attacks is if you fucked up a mechanic in the first place.
>shitposter trying to conflate numaple and classicfags anyways, I just wish the game and gameplay was better. The gachafication of maple is mostly nexon's fault but I cannot forgive the people who still uphold modern maple either. Is there enough sane people to support classic?
>>737711743NTA but last time I played was about 3-4 years ago and they had implemented them a while before then.
>>737711914No. classic can't support itself for shit. maybe mapleland can but it's got a very small staff and they only need the few thousand concurrent players they get. for classic world to be a success, it needs probably at least 40% as many players as modern (so in the 4000~ range). I'm sure at launch it will obliterate that number, no doubt. But reboot also crushed that number, reboot had 40,000 players on numaple. It'll still fall down.I don't think classic has legs that they're expecting. They need to put in a LOT of new content that's worth doing and enjoyable. KPQ is fun a couple times for nostalgia but I really wasn't interested in doing it after like 15 goes, I got my shoes, I got my bamboo hat, I got some crafting mats. I like that there's more a focus on rewards than exp, I think that's good.The survey mentioned new party quests alongside the new areas and bosses, that gives me some hope that maybe not forgotten hollow, but whatever new area is next might have a pq all it's own.Classic has a TON of potential, but the gameplay is just too slow for modern sensibilities. The fact of the matter is we know, from psychological studies and testing gachas and games over the last 20 years that people will log in and play more if they have chores and lists to do. Modern maple does that well, classic does not. They CRAVE being told what to do, and to have tasks to do every day, it's how you get people to continue playing. If you don't offer that, you get people, EVEN IN THIS THREAD, talking about "quitting for 1-3 months" that's fucking terrible for the game lmao. I expect dailystory to start sooner than later.
Remove:-Titles-Medals-Pets-Androids-Ring/Totem Effects-Summons-NX EffectsI don't want to see walking billboards
>>737712371half of that shit is how they make their money. People pay real money to have androids and dress them up (With nx clothes). people love that gaudy shit. You are in the minority.
>>737641808Legends is getting sudden influx of newbies right now. It was 1000-1200 players average a year ago, then suddenly 1400 just a month ago during Lunar Event (3 weeks of JQs). Now that event has ended but we're at a whopping 1800+ suddenly. Everyone's making a Sin lol. I told them to start with a good ole Cleric. Also to use a guide on the forum to get started. ( 1 - 35 in 6hrs, money making quests guide etc). And that doing early quests are better since it gives you 3x exp for quests, while letting you farm for exp killing those mobs and looting the gacha for meso making opportunity. People were busy doing KPQ all the time, very rarely getting OA Int 10%, and begging for pots. Do the job quests instead, they reward you with pots that'll take you to lvl30. You'll get by with starter equips until then. I'm even seeing newbs doing the old hunt pigs for leather to make and sell WGs lol, no one buys those in Legends. I'm guessing the traffic comes from all the hype and anticipation from Classic release. So they needed a fix before the official one gets out for real real.
>>737712431remove androids but have a quick equip slot option to change into different predetermined clothes you set up in a special menu that saves idc how many slots. There I fixed it and I know this was a feature that people asked for a long time ago. Force people to buy more slots with NX to keep up with all their nx clothes
>>737712590No, you didn't fix it, they like being able to dress up an android, they will also already dress themselves up in multiple outfits so that's a nice qol but doesn't change that people will pay for it and REMOVING something people will pay for is braindead niggertarded.
>>737711914You're not fooling anyone with your "I had a level 142 Hermit back in 06" larp, David Zhang.
>>737712237Also you forget the fact that people are more inclined to grind a lot if it doesn't require much focus, which is exactly why people are fine to grind a ton in games like OSRS and numaple.Losing EXP because you weren't paying attention while grinding feels like shit, no matter how "soulful" you think it is.
>>737712634>people will pay for a mannequin to walk behind themI'd call you retarded because old maple wasn't like that but considering the modern audience I suppose they are the real retards
>>737641808Why are they doing a playtest on a tried and true formula they used to actually run?What is this korean niggery?
>>737712879>old maple wasn't like thatyes the fuck it was, you didn't even PLAY old maple if you think otherwise.
I feel like playing Buccaneer now, I've been playing private servers for over 10 years and I have never tried any pirate class
>>737712237How do you get the shoes from kpq? Is it automatic after a couple of runs?Or does it drop from the boss itself, forcing everyone to try and pick it up first.
>>737712845when did "playing a game" mean "braindead grinding". What tension is there to playing the game then? I could do without the exp loss if there is something there to interact with
>>737713432KPQ in classic now no longer gives items as drops from the mobs (at least, I didn't see any). You get a lootbox after beating it, and opening that can give you bamboo hats, squishy shoes, pots, scrolls, crafting mats, a couple other things.in the original, yes, you got them from killing slime king.
>>737713603maplestory has never been anything BUT braindead grinding. Or are we just forgetting coolie meta, or ant tunnel, or skelegons, or literally any point in history of the game's existence throughout any iteration pserver or fan creation where the meta is "where can we be laziest".look at fucking LHC, the meta was "sit 5 people on a dope-a-rope and 1 person grinds"same shit was happening in the classic test after under 2 fucking weeks, sit on a ladder in ant tunnel or florina and hold down a buff while one person grinded, lmao
>>737713781>look at fucking LHC, the meta was "sit 5 people on a dope-a-rope and 1 person grinds"that wasn't how it went, idiot.
>>737713432All loot in classic is instanced. This is why no one talks while grinding. I saw a streamer walk by fire boars and KS someone's Dark Stump by accident which dropped a Wooden Top. He stood over it for a minute waiting for the guy to pick it up, then asked are you going to take it? And the guy went ??? Meaning he had no idea it even dropped.
>>737713603You didn't grind because you wanted to grind, you grinded because you wanted to figure out what kind of new places you could go to when you got stronger, what new skills you would get access to etcThat sense of discovery doesn't exist anymore because you already know exactly what Maplestory has in store and it's not actually that interesting.Also as a dumb poor kid you probably didn't have many other games you could play on your pc either, so spending a lot of time playing the same game without much progress wasn't a problem because you didn't have anything else to do anyway.
>>737713898that was exactly how it went, why are you trying to revise history?
This poster is Madwolf: >>737713781
>>737712431>people love that gaudy shit. You are in the minority.Okay, flies flock to shit but that doesn't make playing in shit desirable
>>737713950I used to grind at LHC almost every day during Tempest, Madwolf. The only party member that ever leeched was a bishop/phantom HSer.Now go back to shilling MapleSilver you embarrassing dumbfuck.
>>737714012Not to you, but again, you are the minority, it is not shit to the majority of people.This shouldn't be difficult to understand.
>>737713915>All loot in classic is instancedAbsolute sovl destruction...
>>737713781Honestly, I can't help but think this is how Nexon thinks. It's just really sad. I was gonna say more but there's no use explaining it.
>>737714119>o-oh i-i have reasons b-but it's not worth explaininglmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooocooooooooooooooooooooooooope
>>737714063>This shouldn't be difficult to understand.Neither should be my analogy for you. >it is not shit to the majority of people.Okay, but that doesn't change that it's actively shit. Flies are accustomed to shit and being pay piggies for basic stuff, I'm not.
>>737714119>It's just really sadNo it's being smart. Instead of listening to what a bunch of idiots THINK they want, they instead do actual testing to figure out what those idiots actually do prefer instead of what they pretend to prefer.
>>737714225Okay well I think classic is a pile of shit and that's why it died, so they're changing it and adding things people like, such as androids. Glad we came to an agreement.
>>737714107That's their way of dealing with KSing I guess. 90% party exp means everyone is sharing the map getting instanced loot which I agree is soulless.
behold, the only good male hairstyle
>>737713915This is so retarded I refuse to believe it is true
>>737714587It isn't.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e9LnG7CnymMJust a dime a dozen doomer being retarded.
>>737710979Neither, I'm probably gonna pay for a pet and that's about it.
Based Twins telling it how it is:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fmpNdJ08PrM
>>737714721cause they are in a party they share the same instanced loot
>>737713432>>737713915>instancedthat's a GOOD THING, don't you faggots spout the same old "soul" nonsense on this shitI was playing in kms back in pre-bb days and it literally took me OVER 100 kpq runs just for the shoes because my ping was way slower than everyone else, and only reason I got it was because the leader was kind enough to let me take it
I'm not watching those zoomers
>>737714897agreed. Fuck purist dumbfucks. I wish death on all of them.
>>737715029You lost piratetroon
>>737715053Nemi literally implied pirates are coming, my dear idiot.
>>737648824HOLY FUCK I WISH I COULD GO BACK
>most people who streamed the closed test are now migrating to pservers and begging nexon to release the game alreadyI've never in my life thought "I hope devs listen to these gay ass streamers" but I'm thinking it now.
>>737715396just don't listen to ALL over themlike please don't listen to this faggot here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9YgZMxFn4
>>737715657>no xp loss on deathAlright yeah maybe some of them still need to be taken out back.
Really hope they release it by the end of the year, just to experience Happyville again with an active playerbase where the interest in the game is at it's peakWon't be the same if they release it around Q1 or Q2 2027 since most of the magic and player base would be lost by the following Christmas
>>737713949good post chatgpt
>>737716308We're not joining you for Christmas, Madwolf.
>game has changed damage, hp, exp, rates etc. for every enemy, ability, equipment etc. in the game>releases a new area that never existed in the first week>threads are still full of "puritans" who don't want anything changed in their classic version that has already changed everything
>>737715396If streamers like it you know it's shit
We just need >Accuracy fixed>Defense and scrolling for it being worthwhile>Warrior, archer, bandit buffed>Assassin drain nerf, holy arrow dmg nerfed a bit, fire arrow made to hit 3 mobs>Massively buff quest rewards and exp>Buff PQ exp so it's reasonably comparable to grinding in a full party, maybe somewhere between 60-80% the exp of a stacked party>Minimize pay to win
>>737716784Game didn't need any changes from 2005-2009 and even then it was only because Fagnus Knights got added which is why skill adjustments were done. Skill changes and class balance min-maxing didnt exist until Big Bang. People just looked at you weird and asked who cares if you were doing theorycrafting bullshit.
>>737641808how is it better? I tried playing this and for 30 minutes the only thing I did was skip dialogue and get from level 1 to 20 automatically without killing a single mob. I want to fucking play the game not see dialogue. Was playing Ice/Lightning mage
>>737717589Man if only they gave you the option to skip all of that right at the start of making your character
>>737717878yeah they gave me the option to NOT level up my character from scratch. Why would I do that right?
I don't always agree with johawk but he talked about how KPQ giving relatively less rewards is balanced out by how it's instanced now and he's right. I hope nexon doesn't cave to retards begging for it to be buffed, the team made an actual good call by pre-emptively nerfing its rewards so people don't just run KPQ for hours and hours on end in lieu of grinding maps.
>>737719221waaah waaah I want the best part of the game to be bad waah waaah why dont people just wanna grind for 100 hours waaaah waaah
>>737719221Hey, if I wanna get to level 70 by only doing PQs I have the right to do it
>>737719221There is no way you are thinking grinding maps is more fun than pqs
>>737719221Agreed, let KPQ exp be worthless so no one will do it. What a brilliant solution
>>737719475It is. But it should be nerfed from OSMS since back then there was a decent amount of waiting to get into one of the 20 PQ channels. Removes tracking but I think everyone just wants to get in and play.
>>737719221Just make it so KPQ experience is better than grinding at earlier levels and make it equal or slightly less than the exp you get from grinding at later levels so you can do a mix of both
>>737719294Blinded by nostalgia. PQs are no more or less fun than grinding, everyone knows how to do the "puzzle" segments and the rest is just hoping you rng into not needing a lot of drops in the first stage. King Slime's AI is braindead easy to manipulate so there's barely any risk of even dying.>>737719415You can still do that even with nerfed rates, and it's probably faster on average than it was back in the day trying to track and snipe a spot despite the greater rewards.>>737719475It's not a question of fun, it's a question of if KPQ is buffed too much it'll just be outright better than grinding so every grind spot will just be empty. It should be developed horizontally, make infinite KPQ grinding productive but not outright better. It's already fine as is since at low levels you can be carried by higher level sins/mages and those sins/mages get the benefit of grinding drops and a proportionally higher xp gain.>>737719481Slippery slope fallacy. About what I'd expect from one of the sub room temp IQ retards begging for KPQ to be buffed when you can literally run it infinitely now.>>737719658This would empty out maps like subway 1. Why would you grind bubblings when you can just do KPQ until level 25 then go to ant tunnel?
>>737719804oh no those maps are going to be empty oh wait they are going to be empty within a month of release anyway, genuinely who the fuck cares dude
Personally I don't want to do PQs because I get wrist pain and like to take random breaks. I can't get locked in with able-bodied people expecting me to do 30 runs in a row anymore.
>>737720106Also about the argument I'd expect from one of you trogs. I honestly hope this dev team just does whatever they want and ignores the community, you niggers are actually retarded.
the game is either releasing this year at maple con, or they're gonna announce the date at maplecon and it's coming 2027. the fact they were so adamant about calling it a test instead of a beta means the game is nowhere near ready to go.
>>737720210well good for you since the new meta will be party training in 6 parties and the moment you dare to take a break they will quick you out
>>737719221Could just make it so you have a certain limit of KPQ you do that gives a good chunk of exp before it starts to drop off so that people still have to kill monster
I played this a couple times in between spawn windows when NM hunting in FFXI in like 2004. It wasn't as fun as FFXI.
>>737720958you played the Beta?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZLEW0BEqCIThe original video is almost 20 fucking years old. The re-upload is a decade old. Jesus Christ.
>>737720765That'll just feel like a daily/weekly which has no place in classic MS, unless you mean it's a permanent drop-off that never refreshes. That would maybe be fine. I think the incentive to run as soon as you unlock it is already there since you can party up with high levels and they can carry you so it's free XP and money (I did this until level 23), but I wouldn't be against making it even better at filling that niche just to speed up the level curve a bit.
Linux players are still actively blocked so i couldnt give two shits about it. i hope another of their dead games dies
>>737721630it's okay lil bro nobody cares about linux players either
>>737721470>That'll just feel like a daily/weekly which has no place in classic MSYou can just not do the "daily"
>>737721968Tell that to numaplefags. The concept of a once-a-day refresh that gives you any time of advantage will always instill a compulsion in the player to play every day to get it. There's a reason every online game regardless of genre has dailies now, it gets people thinking they HAVE to play every day or else they miss out on bonus xp or something. Classic MS comes from a time where you play when you want however long you want and any mechanic that rewards you for logging in and doing the same thing every day will destroy that. Absolute no-go.
>>737722171Events are also fomo and classic MS had plenty of those
>>737722363Logging in every single day for chunks of soulless bonus xp is very different from logging in a couple times over the course of a month to get some fun themed items. That being said, I hope they end up retooling seasonal events to just drop fun cosmetic stuff and avoid giving actual strong gear that could induce FOMO.
>>737722578I feel like the accuracy formula change was to avoid maple weapons becoming dominant again but they kinda over corrected on that end.
>>737702286>>737685550>>737685469The Lego theme brings the image of childhood. The happy go-lucky music and colorful characters shows us a beautiful world that almost feels like it's eternal and unmoving. It's practically frozen in time. Interestingly, the deeper down into Ludibrium you go, the more it starts to lose its toy theme and becomes more about decay and death with the death teddies.On one side of the bottom, you have the spirit vikings. Out of everything in Ludibrium these guys are giant adult-like figures in pirate ships. They haven't outgrown their childish side, and while it looks all cutesy with Maplestorys artstyle you will notice that they are actually quite dead, their desire to remain in childhood forever is eating away at their soul. You'll also notice that there are a few enemies that are bound to a clock, time. Regardless of their wishes, it will always move forward, they're slaves to it unable to move forward. Interestingly, at the very-very bottom you have a giant enemy called the "Gatekeeper" that protects the heart of Ludibrium. While it may seem cutesy due to the way Maplestory seems, I think it's quite clear that Ludibrium reflects the beauty of nostalgia, as well as the ugliness of stagnation.(1/2)
>>737702286>>737685550>>737685469On the other side of the bottom, you have ghosts that are attached to bears. Bears are a common toy that makes you think of a child. The toys are beaten to a pulp, and the lower level enemies have their spirits leaking out of the teddy bear, it almost feels like it's being tortured and forced to continue on. Higher-level versions of this enemy are creepy ghosts that literally have the teddy-bear toys chained to them, with a charm on the bears that resembles a talisman to bring back the dead. Pretty symbolic of how we tend to cannibalize things we hold nostalgic to us to the point it no longer has meaning. Finally, on this side at the very bottom we have the giant enemy Thantos, literally the symbol of Death. With the gatekeeper and Thanatos in mind, it's clear what the theme of Ludibrium is.Finally, we have Papulatus. A being that is literally hiding inside of a crack in time to avoid facing punishment for his crimes. The player must find the piece of time and put it back where it belongs, allowing time to flow naturally for Ludibrium again and overcoming the allure ofinaction. Symbolic of your player characters growth as a person.The time theme of Ludibrium makes sense. While the Time Temple artistically shows the process of coming to terms with your mortality, Ludibrium shows the two-faced nature of forever living in the moment and how it can destroy you if you're not careful.Before Big Bang there was a lot of thought into the areas in Maplestory.(2/2)
>>737721630I saw someone state that they were able to play the beta on linux. Don’t know how reliable it is. It would be nice if it did work but that’s why I keep a separate windows machine.
>>737717282This
>>737715178She asked if people wanted them and if they felt there was enough demand they might add them down the line. They’re clearly not working on them at this time.
We just need>the game to be released right now
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>>737714897>bro bro fr bro ongGood to be able to put a face to the purist counterparty, wouldn't have expected any different. I don't understand why people born after 9/11 have such a huge need to dictate opinions about things they aren't even the target audience of
>>737724508nexon doesn't want you to know this but numaplers are actually the main audience of classic worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRmjVbjwVvk
There's literally no reason to play this without being able to date teenage girls as a teenager
releasing this without orbis is a travesty
Madgod the Godwolf won
>>737725426No it’s not
>>737724956>being able to date teenage girls as a teenagerI did this in old Maple and now my hope in Classic is that I will be able to date a hag weeb girl as a 34 year old.
