>Finds out that everything in the world is secretly under the control of a giant space alien>The best plan she can formulate to free everyone from the alien's control is to smash the elden ring with a hammer like a retarded troglodyte>this condemns her own children to fight in a brutal war and murder each other because she couldn't come up with anything betterHoly shit foids are so fucking stupid.
why did her children immediately go after each others throats the moment she shattered the ring?what kind of mother was she to them?
>>737642243>>Finds out that everything in the world is secretly under the control of a giant space alienShe literally served that alien retard. Fucking garbage shit thread, just post porn already
>>737642346>She literally served that alien retardThat only makes her even MORE of a retard. My god this dumb bitch's stupidity was unmatched! GRRM truly is a hack.
>>737642243>this condemns her own children to fight in a brutal war and murder each other because she couldn't come up with anything betterthat was literally part of the plan retardshe spent thousands of years cultivating a bunch of champions, and then threw them into a "may the strongest win" competition.
How good was Marika's pussy game ?
>>737643485She literally got fucked by all kinds of different men and creatures, including Maliketh's massive knot, yet she remains as tight as a newborn baby
>>737643485>Marika the EternalEternally regenerating hymen
>>737643485She canonically fucks herself.
>>737642243who gives a FUCK about the story in a souls game when they literally retcon and change item descriptions when they release dlcs?
>>737642310>why did her children immediately go after each others throatsOnly ranni and her siblings, because they were always pure evil assholes who served space abominations
>>737644106Ranni wasn't part of the war and the rest of the demigods, Marika's children included, participatedDumb retard
>>737644106fuck off morgott, she doesn't love you and will never love you, you disgusting omen
>>737644004Retards that latch on to fictional worlds because they dislike reality.
>>737643854her homunculus clone is a separate person made from her aka Radagon, because Radagon is actually a good person and doesn't act like a foid compared to her. So It's more of her fucking her brother or son.
>>737644550reality is pretty awful for me at least
>>737644710Reality is bad for a lot of people that doesn't mean you can just ignore it
>>737644885
>>737644550you don't belong here
>>737644004this is why Lies of P DLC was the best
>>737642243What was she supposed to do instead?
>>737642243This game has an insane amount of lore headcanons
>>737645718crush me with her massive 10 foot amazonian ass
>>737645718Have sex with me. I'll take care of the Elden Beast. I just need a good divine blowjob for motivation.
>>737644885you can if you are retarded.
>>737644885>that doesn't mean you can just ignore itit does, and in fact, that's precisely what i'm repeatedly told to do everytime i look into one of these magic boxes, well either that or mold my reality in the shape of some talking head's can't really blame the everyman for doing exactly what society designed them to do
>>737646396autistic moon wife
>people are pretending their made up lore is realWhy are you like this? None of this is in the game
>>73764639611/10, no notes.
I genuinely want to know what Morgott would've done it the player didn't kill him when he did. Godfrey shows up like a few hours later. What would they have said to each other? Would Morgott have actually allowed Godfrey to to do something to the Erdtree?
>>737642243>>Finds out that everything in the world is secretly under the control of a giant space alienheadcanon
>>737642243>>Finds out that everything in the world is secretly under the control of a giant space alienMarika summons the Elden Beast by using law of Regression into the Elden Ring, you didn't understand shit
>>737642243none of that is trueit's hilarious how Elden Ring story is a legitimate IQ test
>>737642310>MorgottDefended the capital, was the dutiful son>MiquellaWanted to ascend to Godhood and replace Marika>MaleniaGot LOVE'd by Miquella before everything started, essentially brainwashed into chasing down Radahn>RadahnHad the best military out of the group, thought he should take over and rule, got BTFO by Morgott then ROT'd>RanniToo weak to fight her own battle, resorted to trickery because the Moon promised her she could leave if they won>RykardWeak like Ranni, terrified that Radahn or Morgott would come looking for him, opted to toss his lot in with the Snakes>MohgWas supposed to be guarding the Frenzied Flame, had actually been LOVE'd by Miquella and was brainwashed into guarding a path into the Shadow landsEssentially Radahn and Morgott disagreed on who should rule, Ranni and Rykard were scheming bastards, and Miquella was using the other notable Demigods as puppets.
>>737646868Anyone who gives a fuck about fromshit lore is sub 40 iq
>>737647787>t. low IQ retard>>737647224lorelet retard
>>737644106What? Godrick and his men were the ones who attacked the capital and Radhan was the one who defended it
>>737648958Found the 5 iq fromdrone
>Headcanon: The Game
>>737642243>gigantic woman moment dooms the worldfirst souls game?
>>737642243I still dont understand the whole two people actually being the same person thing. Do they just take turns existing? If so, how did Radagon impregnate Marika?
>>737649230it is not explained and the biggest blind spot in ER lore. don't think grrm wrote that, it was probably Miyazaki who decided to do it for no particular reason
>>737642310>have a happy family>one day your dad leaves your mom, annulling their marriage and mindbreaking her>step-mom tells you you're an empyrean now and you're going to be the host to some alien influence because that's the way it isjustified crashout
>>737649230Radagon is a male clone of Marika not Marika herself.
>>737649706happy family my assmarika is the quintessential bpd narcissistic abusive mother
>>737649706But Ranni had nothing to do with what the other demigods did after Marika shattered the ring. She was pretending to be dead.
>>737644245>Ranni wasn't part of the warRanni dindu nuffin AYO dem muhfuggin... knives of color did allat shieeet
>>737642243>Written by George R. MartinThis guy made Meathouse Man that revolves around a guy who puppets corpses for free labor and sexual gratification.
>>737650434The night of the black knives happened before the war, yes. Ranni "died" then
>>737649983Marika literally turns into Radagon before your eyes
>>737642243Bitch was pregnant like 50 times her hormones are in shambles
>>737642243Damn…
>>737651707yeah because they're fused together they merged together during and after the shattering
>>737652076You made that up lol
>>737652127no, why do you think they're completely different from one another
>>737649230He coomed on a pretty golden plate and Marika fingered herself with it. Easy peasy.
>>737645942
>>737646639>Would Morgott have actually allowed Godfrey to to do something to the Erdtree?Lol, no. They would be killing each other.
>>737652127>Thou art yet to become me. Thou art yet to become a god.
>>737642243Well, what is your plan that is so much smarter?
>>737642346>>737642615Actually the issue is that she thought she was serving that alien and then seems to have figured out that the Two Fingers were always charlatans and that is what helped trigger her breakdown. The Fingers pretended that they were receiving guidance from the Greater Will but they were actually lying retards getting advice from an even more retarded faildaughter.
>>737652467That's how I feel, but I'm not retarded. That's just reality. I've got photos.
>>737643485>>737644579Radagon fucked Rennala so hard that the smartest woman in the world had her mind shatter when he left. Marika fucked Godfrey so hard that he simped for her for thousands of years even after death and immediately ran back to her when he was revived.
>>737644579We know literally nothing about Radagon regarding whether he's a good or a bad guy. >>737646396noice
>>737642310The shattering was merely a struggle for succession, they weren't at each others throats her children just didn't agree who to put on the throne, Rykard, Morgott or some golden lineage boy. >>737646396Ranni is retarded yes but she isn't offering "freedom" from the GW either
>>737649983I think Radagon is more than that. I think Radagon is to Marika what Rot is to Malenia and the Snek to Messmer etc, it is the influence of an outer god, in this case Radagon is the influence of the Greater Will that will do anything to keep the Golden Order intact, even (or especially) if Marika doesn't want to anymore.
>>737646738Why would she summon something that crucified her?
Do you guys ever think that people on /v/ just purposely misinterpret video game story for engagement bait, or are there people actually this retarded on this board. I cant even tell.
>>737653720I think most people just absorb details by osmosis and then repeat whatever they last heard with a little twist to make it funnier.
>>737653720>engagement baitWhy do that in a place where you aren't even getting paid for it
>>737650232She may not have participated in the war itself but she arguably instigated the entire thing by killing Godwyn
>>737653720i used to think that...a decade ago. but in current year this place's collective IQ has fallen so much that i think things are bait less and less of the time and more people actually being genuine...
>>737653720>/v/ just purposely misinterpret video game story for engagementAbsolutely, plus 90% itt just regurgitating their favorite eceleb opinion
>>737654026getting (You)s is very addictive and can lead you to a dark path
>>737653484It crucified her after she betrayed it like she betrayed everyone else who ever trusted her.
>>737653720No, this was the majority interpretation of youtube retards, and it will take decades to undo the retard momentum. It doesn't matter that there was no basis to believe any of this in the base game, and the DLC completely ruled it out.
>>737647224>Weak like Ranni, terrified that RadahnRykard and Radahn has a good relationship tho. He has paintings of Radahn on his home.Only Ranni was in bad terms with Radahn.
>>737654524>use special magic to rewind the elden ring into the elden beast>betray it in some way and get crucified>???>profitYou need to lay out your order of operations.
>>737643485yankin'
>>737654356>>737654626youtube derangement syndrome
>>737654626They think Fromsoftware stories are giant riddles with the whole game world trying to trick the player instead of fairly simple stories with unnecessary detail and trivia trimmed out.They are the kind of losers who got mad because they couldn't pin Godefroy down to an exact point in the timeline. He just exists to show grafting has a bigger history than Godrick.
>>737654035>implying it wasn't Marika that had Godwyn killedRanni just conducted the ritual to apply the rune of death to the daggers and made sure it was her own body that was killed instead of Godwyn's. It's most likely that Marika organized the Night of the Black Knives given the Black Knife Assassins are loyal to her, rather than Ranni. This is why their ringleader is imprisoned in an evergaol in Ranni's territory, one guards Marika's room, and why a bunch tried to kill Ranni's crewI still wish for uppies from my wife Tiche
>>737643485Not that good? Both her husbands had children outside of marriage, Radagon and her seemed special but he had a whole litter without her and when she ditched Godfrey he said aight and fucked off.
>>737655176>one guards Marika's roomI figured that one was hunting Morgott.
>>737655176You don't know the lore of your own waifu spirit. After the Black Knife Assassins kill Godwyn they were hunted down nonstop by the Golden Order and many of them died trying to escape from the capital. That one BKA outside Marika's room is probably just waiting for her to appear again to kill her.
>>737642310They didn't. Remember dlc explained that radhan was supposed to be miquellas husband. Radhan fought off godrick who was some retarded descendant of godfrey who was attacking the capital, not maricka, and then got shanked by morgott who decided to drop his spaghetti, then traveled south and got jumped by malenia who likely demanded he go marry the insane boy-wife by orders of her twin and he no way fag'd her, then after she tried to force him and got her ass beaten down, she decided to drop the aids bomb on a quarter of the lands between, not only killing miquellas plan to be married, but also plagueing the land. The main ones vying for control were rickard radhans whelp and miquella. Radhan just wanted to chill at home with his horse.
I feel like when you tell a story that has had so many thousands of years pass it might as well be considered prehistoric it kind of loses the mystery when the mystery quite honestly hasn't even been alive in like millennium
>>737642310She told them too and said if they no one claimed the Elden Ring quickly enough she'd unleash the Tarnished on them
>>737655462Marika opposes the Golden Order, which is precisely why she revives the Tarnished to wreck shit and break her free from being controlled by the fingers
>>737647224Retard
>>737644004Blud's godwyn headcanon lost?
>>737654035>>737655176>>737655462Are you guys retarded or just don't remember the game? We KNOW Godwyn's death was supposed to be martyrdom and that it was orchestrated. He was to come back to life and when he doesn't Marika shatters the ring. Its not that complicated.
>>737655905Source? I keep reading about this yet I found nothing.
>>737644885He actually can, just needs to take the age of compassion pill instead>>737645718Choose Godwyn as her Elden Lord successor and let Radagon become a god
>Be Marika>First husband is a gorilla with a lion fursona>Second husband is a bible-thumping ginger who wants to bang the NEET wizard lady down the road>Literally all of your children except one are cursed, possessed, or ginger>Find out God actually is real but he hasn't picked up the phone in literally ever>One of the ginger kids sent mole people to shank the golden child because she wants to be an astronaut>The twink son is fucking his perpetually rotting sister, but keeps eyeing the biggest of the gingers in a weird way tooShe was kinda justified
>>737656108>Choose Godwyn as her Elden Lord successorFuck her favorite son? Is that your brilliant solution?
>>737656143fucking trailer park family.
>>737643854Hot
She literally had her grace revoked and was getting tortured inside the Eritrea for the entire game and you're mad she didn't write a thesis on alien diplomacy first?
>>737655905The crying old finger lady on the unnamed eternal city, the one with Godwyn. That and the plan that was in place to bring """someone""" back during the eclipse in Castle Sol.
>>737656248She/radagon doesn't need to fuck Godwyn. Miquella has no sexual interest in Radahn the secret scribe mentions "A lord will usher in a god's return,Lord Radahn calls God Miquella back from whatever is past the Gates of Divinity
>>737656658Meant for >>737656105
>>737656105The Finger Reader Crone underground says it>Ohh... Oh, Lord Godwyn... Such cruelty, such humiliation... My poor, sweet lordling should have died a true death. As the first of the demigods to die. As a martyr to Destined Death. But why must it yet bring such disgrace? A scion of the golden bough, sentenced to live in Death...Important to remember they are unlikely to have any real insight into Marika's plans, though, and could be speaking from the Fingers' perspective.Many people seem to forget the base game showed us the Fingers have no clue what is going on and spaz out when they learn the Erdtree is sealed.
>>737656820And after they spaz out, the Roundtable Hold Finger Reader Crone basically says>Well, there goes our only source of information. It would be a giga crime to burn down the Erdtree. But maybe do it anyway? idk lol
>>737654626You need to algorithm rig r/Eldenring. So your lore reply is early and can snowball upvotes
>>737655905>"Ohh... Oh, Lord Godwyn...>Such cruelty, such humiliation... My poor, sweet lordling should have died a true death.>As the first of the demigods to die.>As a martyr to Destined Death.>But why must it yet bring such disgrace?>A scion of the golden bough, sentenced to live in Death...>How could such a thing come to be..."I think martyr is just fancy language that Godwyn was meant to be a sacrifice Ranni's schemes (and perhaps Marika's), but not die in such a horrible way that it left him as a mutant abomination. The Finger Readers seem to have some psychic knowledge of the fates and intentions of others, but aren't totally omniscient.
Remind me, what part had the frenzied shit in all of this?
>>737657027I greatly appreciate Enia changing her final line to "Do what you believe is right" after you set it aflame.
>>737657280none, reallyit's just around like the god of rot and the formless mother
>>737653257In conclusion: everyone was beyond retarded and turned the world into a mass grave with the walking dead.Nit comfy. Not comfy at all.
>>737657280It's essentially the End of Evangelion where everything merges together into an orange abyss, devoid of any and all life.
>>737657475>It's essentially the End of Evangelion where everything merges together into an orange abyss, devoid of any and all life.
>>737656820>Important to remember that they are very likely to have real insight on Marika's plan, as one has served as a wetnurse to royalty and they are all gifted in FORESIGHTFixedYou think this would be easy to deduce since there two dozens of them right outside Marika's bedchamber but i guess not
I'm scared about the movie. Part of what makes Dark Souls/Elden Ring unique is deciphering its lore and theorizing about it.If the movie reveals too much then all the mystique and mystery will be gone, just like happened with Miquella and Radahn, and since Marika still has her two braids in the film then it will be a story about her origins. Awful idea.
>>737655493>Radhan just wanted to chill at home with his horse.Yeah that's why he surges Leyndell and gets whooped my Morgott before ramping up his rune and growing into a 25ft giant
>>737657567That was after Shinji was like "lol jk" and emerged back from the tang
>>737657280Shabriri was a guy that was attracted to the Frenzied Flame and managed to cause a bunch of trouble until Marika blinded him. It is said he was spouting slander, but it could also be guessed that it was similar to the speech that Hyetta gives us about the Greater Will being a fuck-up. After that, it seemingly was successfully repressed until the Shattering after which it managed to get more followers by targeting those in deep despair.Vyke was one of the two strongest Tarnished other than us (the other being Bernahl) and he got to the Mountaintops before Shabriri's ghost convinced him to go full Frenzy. As for why the Three Fingers are three fingers, I think its a type of intentional mimicry or mockery. Where the form they take is intentionally related to the Two Fingers and they're playing on the extant finger imagery culture to be more convincing.
>>737642243So that is the plot huh? Am I retarded for not getting that from playing the game?
>>737657280>>737657823Part of the repression thing might be explaining why Marika did what she did regarding the Omen and banishing them underground. It is of course true that she almost certainly hated the Omen for being like the Hornsent. But she also may have intentionally used Mohg and Morgott as guardians against the Frenzied Flame being released.Mohg of course still has his projection at the final church, but if you ever try heading to the Three Fingers before Morgott is dead, he'll have a seal up blocking progress. It is potentially the case that the entire Shunning Grounds concept was created to make accessing the Three Fingers almost impossible.
We couldn't save her
>>737657468Yeah, the bigger picture is most characters including Marika, the Hornsent, and Metyr, keep giving into resentment and hatred and cursing the world. Nightreign did a good job highlighting this with non blank slate characters that go in the opposite direction.
>>737656820>My poor, sweet lordling should have died a true death. As the first of the demigods to die. As a martyr to Destined DeathShe talking about Miquella's Castle Sol ritual failing
>>737657304Yes, mam
Low lvl invasions are kinda shitty in ER huhAlmost everbody got the memo to pump Vig early and you aren't dealing enough damage to deal with ganks (aka every invasion) and people have similar HP at high level but you deal way more damage:^(
>>737658974Level 500 password phantoms make it even worse. The scaling algo doesn't really fix the issue.
>>737649230One is comatose while the other is active
>>737658974Go up to 133.Invades both 120/5 tryhards and every casual up to and including 160. After that whatever peopel are playing can't be called a build anymore anyway.
>>737657089The implication I got was that the Fingers wanted Godwyn to die, and for Ranni to become the next god, but she fucked it all up by splitting Destined Death in half to escape their plans and in consequence Godwyn became a half-dead necro-tumor.
>>737649706Radagon left Renala specifically to make more Empyrean children because he knew Ranni didn't want the job.Neither Marika nor her Radagon half wanted more children, which is why Marika only got pregnant once from Radagon despite having had a billion children with Godfrey.It was just to make another Empyrean. Ironically, for Ranni's sake.
>>737642243Tranny behavior.
>>737649230>impregnateThe actual gods seem to be more spirit inhabiting a vessel than an actual body.>Hornsent gods are spirits that inhabit dancers>Marika looks like she is made of clay>Ranni becomes a doll before she becomes a god>Miquella abandons his bodyI doubt they are having actual sex. So see, for Miquella, it isn't gay if you are a spirit.
>>737658037I reckon the Three Fingers appeared in the catacombs born from the suffering Omen. With the caravan seeking out the Three Fingers after their persecution. The underground is littered with corpses, everytime I wander through the pipes I feel disdain. Right beneath the capital, the maligned hidden away and left to rot>>737657280Datamine's revealed St. Trina was planned to be involved in Kale's removed frenzied flame quest. The song we hear played by the merchant in the underground was written by St. Trina, it was supposed to soothe those poor fuckers. In the DLC we learn more about her powers, particularly the eternal sleep concoction. I imagine St. Trina used those on those who suffered and turned to Frenzy across the lands between. Miq/Trina were the only demigods to give a damn
>>737659923For being a mother goddess, Marika only ever got knocked up thrice. Godwyn, Twin Set 1: Morgott and Mohg, and Twin Set 2: Miquella and Malenia. Kinda underwhelming in that way.
>>737659923>Ironically, for Ranni's sake.Dollfucker behaviour, the only demigods Marika gave a hoot about were Godwyn, Messmer and Miquella
>>737660381You are wrong. There have been much more demigods in the past.
>>737657280Eschatological cult, very unclear what the Frenzied Flame actually is though. Due to its power its clearly a part of the divine but in what capacity we know not. Now assuming this wasn't done for gameplay reasons, it is actually incapable of doing anything of note lest you unlock Destined Death, meaning its still entirely subservient to whatever order the world currently has (and by default the GW).
>>737659110There's a lot of body double weirdness in ER and clearly multiple modes of how it works Marika/RadagonD&DMorgott astral projecting to jump you twice Sellen and Dung Eater chilling while also going crazy in imprisonment elsewhere Maliketh and his projection in Caelid, who even stops speaking to you after killing Maliketh
Elden Ring has cool lore but god the game sucks compared to Dark Souls
>>737660350>The song we hear played by the merchant in the underground was written by St. Trina, it was supposed to soothe those poor fuckerspretty sure that part is still in the game
>>737660483They're probably the children of any of the named Demigods we meet. For example, you wouldn't call something the 'Golden Lineage' if people only knew about Godwyn as Marika's child with Godfrey. What Lineage is it when there's only one child? It makes more sense that Godwyn reproduced a few times at least, and his kids further on. I could also see Rykard having children of his own other than Rya.
>>737657280Elden Ring's cosmogony is heavily informed by Kabbalistic concepts. In the beginning, there is only the totality of divine being/One Great. It forms within itself a void into which the divine essence is poured, to enable differentiation/creation. This first act of creation turns out to be the last as the divine self is shattered into many disparate parts in the process, leading to a flawed differentiated existence (problem of evil). This is Elden Ring's principal theme; its different factions and endings represent various possible answers to the core problem we face. In this context, the Flame of Frenzy simply represents the main thrust of Lurian Kabbalistic thought - Tikkun olam/'repairing the world/God' by merging the disparate shards back together, thus fixing the original error of creation. It's a theme which appears again and again throughout Japanese fiction (Evangelion was already mentioned ITT; Bloodborne's School of Mensis/One Reborn is another example). I suspect the Japanese are too intelligent to overlook that this is a dominant belief system within the highest ranks of Western intellectual and spiritual life, hence why they often use art to subtly deconstruct it. It is likewise not coincidental that Shabriri has a Hebrew name, or that the nomadic merchants invoke the image of persecuted medieval Jews.
>>737644885Watch me
>>737660479Her Radagon part did care about Ranni.
>>737660770Correct, certain terms in the game are always used in the same context. Hero can only mean Radahn or Radagon, Royalty means a connection to Marika and the same can be said of Demigod. Even retards like Godrick are still called demigods, despite how far removed from the divinity he is. People always forget that Godefroy exists.
>>737649230To me its easier if you think that Marika split herself into two entities, one staying as Marika while the other become Radagon, to better deal with the war.Then they got fuse together again after Marika shattered the ring
>>737660381Marika had an untold number of children with Godfrey, they and their descendants are called the Golden Lineage.
>>737657280Frenzy is one of a couple of gods that are trying to become the big dog in town by kicking the greater will now that throne is up for anyone
>>737660350>>737660605Am I just retarded for having 100%d Elden Ring and its DLC without really getting the connection between the frenzied flame and Trina? Kind of kino though how Miquella treated the rot and Trina the frenzy.
>>737644885when your options are ignoring reality or exiting it, the former is marginally better
>>737661379>>737660770My reply. I wouldn't say that it'd be believable that she had a ton of children that we simply never hear about ever. But it is believable that Godwyn/Rykard/Radahn/Ranni reproduced on their own any number of times and for their descendants to carry some amount of power as a demigod. With Godrick being a distant descendant of Godwyn with only traces of his ancestor's abilities.
>>737661541>Am I just retarded for having 100%d Elden Ring and its DLC without really getting the connection between the frenzied flame and Trina?Not at all. They worked to scrub it entirely except for potentially some left over oblique references that someone could scrounge up.
I've played all the souls games and can't tell you the first thing about the story about any of them. Something about fire and dark is as far as I can get.
>>737661295Proof?
Why is Radahn so big? Was he like that pre-rot or did the rot do it to him? I assume he actually fit on his horse at some point. For that matter, why are a lot of characters so fucking huge? Morgott and Mohg I assume are just big because they're omens, but is Horah Loux just big because he's from the badlands? Are they all that big?
>>737661679>I wouldn't say that it'd be believable that she had a ton of children that we simply never hear about ever.You forgetting Messmer? Who knows how many kids that whore had.
>>737661679There's a lot of things said in these threads that are speculation.This isn't one of those things.It's implied in many times that the union of Marika and Godfrey had many children we don't know of, like in Godrick and Morgott's great runes.
>>737661843Massive size difference is just a thing, like how vulgar militia are just tiny guys.
>>737661834Why did he leave Renala?
>>737661843Doyleist explanation: they have to be bigger than you because the camera system works best for enemies that are somewhere between x1.5 and x5 your size or so. Watsonian explanation: Hoarah Loux is basically a Rune Bear stuffed in human skin and comes from a culture where eating rune bear hearts was the best hobby a man could have. Morgott and Mohg inherited that beastliness from him and shit touched by the Crucible just tends to be bigger in size in general. Radahn was already too big for his horse at a young age (thats why he learned gravity magic) but getting infected by the Rot and eating thousands of corpses has resulted in him bloating in size.
>>737662073Ranni was too stinky.
>>737661194Eh the link is more incidental, the main religion of the setting is heavily christian in nature and Christianity is naturally intertwined with jewish kabbalah hence the connections. Also Elden Ring was written by a westerner and the nips have already admitted several times to just pull from old western stuff because "it looked cool".>>737661541Nah Trina probably never had a lot of lore to her, so Miyazaki hiding most of it and throwing the rest to the DLC makes sense.
>>737662073Marika called him back after she ditched Godfrey
>>737649983Wrong. It says in game Radagon IS Marika. It's all a LARP. There is only Marika. Just like the swan that fucked that chick to make a demigod was still Zeus.
>>737662320So what you are saying is that Marika has MPD
>>737661843He was normal until his Great Rune corrupted him
>>737649230They take turns existing. One of the huge plot points is the statue sculptor seeing the change happen in real time. There are other hints about this as well in the clothing designs in regards to radagons helpers when he was banging renalla
>>737662427>normal
>>737657714The movie will be in no way cannon anyway.
>>737662320And yet Radagon is a completely different person (with a different story if you believe he was the slave in Stormveil) and the DLC and Marika's own words heavily implied they "fused" at some point. I really don't understand the certainty some people have in something that is MEANT to be ambiguous.
>>737642243WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONEWHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONEWHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONEWHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONEWHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONEWHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE
>>737662540If they ask GRRM to help them out with the plot then it will be canon we like it or not, that's what I hate. He is who wrote ER, not Miyazaki
>>737661937>>737661964Messmer is a good example of that, because he was a child that was censored from history, but in doing so it also involved physically ripping out half the continent and sealing it away from this reality. Wth us physically seeing a massive leftover waterfall where stuff used to be. While of course that could have happened any number of times that we just don't know about, it is probably unreasonable to just assume that entire world is an incomprehensible raggedy quilt with chunks missing everywhere that we'll never understand. Just on the basic stance that this is a work of art made by humans who were trying to tell some kind of story. I do not see how Godrick's Rune and Morgott's Rune disprove my claim. I agree that both are part of the Golden Lineage. But Godrick is said to be of only distant relation (implying he's not directly Godfrey or Marika's child), and Morgott was completely unknown when that term was likely created. So neither could be the source of the term 'Golden Lineage' but instead were associated with an extant title for Godfrey's descendants.Now, while it is possible that there were a ton of children of Godfrey that Marika censored, I think just assuming that Godwyn had kids is more parsimonious.
>>737655493>Radahn's whelpRhikard is his older brother senpai.
>>737662320>Stone hammer made in the lands of the Numen, outside the Lands Between.>The tool with which Queen Marika shattered the Elden Ring and Radagon attempted to repair it.>The hammer partially broke upon shattering the Ring, becoming splintered with rune fragments.They weren't just the same person wearing masks, they had different intentions.
Elden Ring is the literal definition of woman moment and first world problemsEVERY character responsible for the world being currently a repulsive, rotting abomination is a literal immortal demigod/god whose entire lives were easy mode as soon as they were both, usually blessed with both beauty and powerExcept they thought they could do better than a pretty decent world already, and so decided to literally make millions suffer in constant agony because... there's a (small) chance whatever comes of this might be (slightly) better!!!!!!!!111!!!
>>737662836That only proves 'Murrica is bipolar.
>>737642243>Led the only nation that successfully fought the might of the Golden Order>Fought Prime Radagon to a draw, something that no one else could do>During the war she cast a Terra Magicka so powerful that it covered the entire Academy of Raya Lucaria, buffing every Sorcerer and Carian Knight>Her Carian Knights absolutely annihilated the Leyndell Knights while outnumbered ten to one>She was neither a God or a Demi-God, and received her Great Rune from Radagon after the war. She was just a humble astrologer that became a queen>Her (and her sister's) Full Moon Sorceries and her Glintstone Staff have the highest INT requirement in the game>Can use Azure's Comet>Can summon a Dragon>Best children >Only recorded loss in canonical lore to this day was to depression
>>>737663104>literally mindbroken just because her husband left her, despite her obligations as leader of a nationmost pathetic character of the game
>>737662997You are forgetting the part when this goddess was first born into slavery and was forced to watch as those of her own kind were literally whipped to pieces and used as meat bricks to make a babylon tower so those who torture her people can talk with the real God
>>737642243>Holy shit foids are so fucking stupid.This is what makes her character arc believable
>>737662320>Radagon IS Marika. It's all a LARP.>Just like the swan that fucked that chick to make a demigod was still Zeus.Not really though. We learn that Marika was thrown into those pots alongside a bunch of her kin to make a divine being. And unlike all the failures, Marika was a success. But isn't it likely that Radagon was genuinely one of Marika's kin that was thrown into the pot alongside her? Rather than a persona that was purely created from her being sincerely schizo?
>>737663319Is that from the DLC? Haven't played it.
>>737663172>Even though you are helping her daughter to become a god, you humiliate her insane depressed ass so badly in the boss battle that her daughter intervenes disguised as her to fight you so you won't think her mother is such a loser.
>>737662725>Messmer is a good example of thatNot exactly, the game would have you believe it was the act that had to be forgotten not Messmer himself i.e. everyone but us knew he was a thing. So Messmer would have been forgotten by proxy. Just my headcanon but i think we do know every main demigod with capital D, all of Marika's children. Its just that every children of those children is also a demigod and those we can't know all.
>>737662314Godfrey was ditched after the war with the giantsAfter the war with the giants, was the war with the CariansAfter the war with the Carians, Radagon married RenalaSo Godfrey had long been dumped by then
>>737663319I believe that Marika and Radagon were born together, as two halves of one being, and found a way to be separated. Just like Miquella and Trina.
>>737663423I think it's just something gods can do in this world, and Empyreans are baby gods.
>>737663367>Is that from the DLC?Yeah. There are hints of it in the base game though. It lines up. Like I doubt anyone could have ever really have come to that conclusion without the DLC, but it doesn't feel like something the DLC just sprung on you out of nowhere. The base game already had a connection between Marika and the pots. Her background as a numen. And something major was clearly tied to both the pots and the numen, but we could just never really tell what it was until the DLC.
>>737663319I would go further, because if Radagon and Marika are/were one it would mean that the hornsent messed with fire giants and that they wouldn't never ever do.
>>737663172She probably found out her Chad husband she had 4 kids with was actually her hated Stacy rival, that would be pretty shocking
>>737663650>what? am i gay? AAAIIIIIEEEEE MY MIND IS BREAKING
>>737658357I did
>>737649230Apparently these was cut content about the mimic tear, and Radagon might be something similar.
>>737663859Indeed.
>>737663907No, you didn't, you retard. The Frenzied Flame means dead to everyone and everything.
>>737663172Radacock is just that powerful
>>737663420I agree with you on the view of the dead demigods. I said Messmer was a good example because how he demonstrates the giant scale of that surrounded an unknown child of Marika. That he wasn't just forgotten but the entire war he was associated with and chunk of the world he lived in was ripped out around him.It wasn't just a minor act of forgetting, but a massive event. And other children of Marika we wouldn't know about would need similar levels of justification.
>>737663650I can work with that.
>>737663172>literally mindbroken because her two sons become mindless monsters and her daughter apparently committed suicide
>>737664018Go back to r/eldenring, dollfucker. Frenziedchads are busy saving the world whether they planned to or not
>>737642243She should have crushed my pelvis instead
>>737649230It's a mistery.
>>737664504mogged by her own SON in beauty.
>>737664593>literally just a loli version of herselfYeah, no.
>>737664692*shota versionEven the male version is superior in the form of radagon. Marika is just a loser.
>>737664504>>737665084>posting non-canon body models
Which fanbase is worse, the Radagon simps or the Goldmask simps?
>>737643854Wouldn't you if you looked like that?
>>737665545They are mostly inoffensive, all past and present golden order fundamentalists are chads, except Coryhn if he counts
>>737665782
>>737655038Yeah the stories are deliberately made with abstract mythology and concepts so that you can't know everything, people obsessed with finding an answer to every autistic little detail like Star Wars fans are just retardedGetting into ancient history goes a long way with helping you appreciate the mystery for what it is, it wouldn't surprise me if From took some inspiration from ancient archeology for world building
>>737665876More apt pic*
>>737665339stinky
>737665545This is why you should throw them down the drain head first. Its unfortunate that some will still find their way back here and are even able to post but it is what it is. The Golden Order truly is broken.
>>737660381you forgot about both Messmer and Melina, but also the corpses in the walking mausoleums are her children too
>>737666662Get it out of your system, chaf your ween between 2 planks of wood then come back to the thread and make a quality post
>>737642243She's a blonde bimbo, what'd you expect?
Both Marika and Ranni opposes the outside influences that are influencing their world. But provided someone is available to beat Radagon into submission. Who would be better at the task between Ranni and Marika to resist the outside influence? And can the moon be trusted or did they just trade one influence for another?
>>737667702At least you can see the moon.Well, one of them.
Don't you guys get tired of discussing made-up lore? If it's not in the game it's not canon. It's just speculation from bored autists.
>>737665545Goldmask simps. Radagon simps are either basic misogynists or gays. Goldmask simps all have 1000 hours in at least one Paradox game.
>>737657475No, In EoE everyone merges into one single being, Frenzied Flame everything and everyone dies forever.
>>737669419>Frenzied Flame everything and everyone dies forever.That's where you're wrong, The One Great split, it was caused by a will. The Greater Will is a bum sure GW's will return and be amongst the One Great
>>737667702Ranni will be in Space waiting to get jumped by a megabrain golden fundamentalist tier chad. Marika pops Outer God babies out of her womb. If you don't want Outer Gods intervening you go Age of Compassion. Miquella's(ex-golden order fundamentalist btw) needles are able to quell scarlet rot and the frenzied flame
>>737667702Moons have only appeared to 3 people, Carian sisters and Ranni. When Ranni mentions "under the guidance of the moon" I just assume it's a free for all but none can claim the Elden Ring and change reality to their liking cause god will be far away in space . If you're adept or picked by a "moon" live to its standard but if not do whatever
Is elden ring a good game? I played through ds3 and thought it was kinda bleh
>>737675295It basically replaced DS3 in most every way except for tone.
>>737675295it's far more exiting and engaging exploring a big ass dead fantasy world rather then going through boring grey linear areas
>>737657280Frenzied is the nah fuck you we aint doing this anymore ending. Things are probably not going to be better over all, but it will result in a system outside the greater will.
>>737642243if you beat the game, her plan succeedsshe wanted to fuck everything up so the tarnished have more enemies to kill and get stronger then kill the elden beast
>>737661843Runes are basically cheatcodes that let you increase your size. Our tarnished simply prefers to put those runes into actual strength than a glorified big head mode
>>737642243whenever I see a butt crack I need to sniff it, clean girl butts smell amazing
>>737669419Not forever. Everything just returns to chaos until something new emerges.
>>737642243Im still made that we never got to consort miquella after killing that punk faggot radahn
there's something incredibly entertaining for me about seeing marika depicted as this hyper-fertile mother of godsit's the sort of enjoyment that transcends coom
>>737665238>posting non canon movie model
>>737675295Would it have daily (often multiple) threads if it wasn't?It sucked me in so hard I ended up doing 3 playthroughs in a row. The combat is really fun once you get the hang of it and it gives you a metric fuckton of options to work with.
>>737663104>be proud carian royalty>gets mindbroken by a red haired champion of the eternal queenit's funny that it happened twice
What was Goldmasks deal really?Did he actually like the Golden Order but disagreed with how the higher ups were running it?Was he basically just Elden Rings version of a Lutheran?
>>737685448>Was he basically just Elden Rings version of a Lutheran?Pretty much. Consider the Gods the Catholic Church in this analogy. Goldmask doesn't have a problem with the faith, just the people running it.
>>737656143I laughed
>>737642243Prompt?
>>737685578SAAAAAAAARRRRR
>>737685636?
>>737664593
>>737642243After playing Elden Ring, whole game feels like it's one gigantic woman moment. Both Ranni and Marika are irredeemable cunts, major male cast are retarded simps, and the whole royal family deserves to die.
>>737653484>something that crucified her?headcanon
>>737653413>Ranni is retarded yes but she isn't offering "freedom" from the GW eitherjust order under another nebulous god
ER lore is literally just retooled DS+DS3 lore but with some faction colors swapped and with a coat of GRR Martin on top. Gwyn=Golden order/LineageFrenzy Flame=IzalithCarians=SeathNito=DeathrootVolcano Manor=meanie red ghost faction or whatever, nobody caresAnd then you some GRR ideas on top to make it seem more i teresting and thought-out than it is like the finger theme that goes fucking nowhere or Melina's freak out if you burn the tree (which goes fucking nowhere). There's a reason not a single of the big name gods or demihods is sane or allowed to address the player in any way, because any attempt to actually explain shit would break the illusion of it being cohesive or though-out and not just a mish mash of reused ideas and themes. Miyazaki is a one trick pony and is incapable of coming up with anything that isn't muh destroyed kingdom where everyone went mad and you kill everyone ooooooo.
>>737686776Even the frenzied flame guy got mindraped and cucked by some hoe
>>737687540Probably Marika in disguise.
>>737686281it's not ai faggot
>>737685383Whenever fanart or fanfic gets so far away from canon that it basically creates its own new world, I find it fascinating.
>>737686843She's clearly crucified and the Elden Beast's grab does the same to us. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcAiy7n4i6M
>>737657280>happy merchants get banished underground for worshipping something besides marika/tree>they get pissed and call out for any outer god to help>outer god answers and becomes what they want, a force that will return everything to nothing, the frenzied flame
>>737658357My evil wife
>>737644550>I got mine, so everything must be just great.
