It was good and deserved to sell better.
>>737645786no
>>737645786yeah
>>737645786It was good. It was never likely to sell well because the Ninja Gaiden name isn't a money printer and the few people who just want a Ryu game aren't happy to see Yakumo.
>>737645786It was good if all you wanted out of a game is a bunch of combos in a black room. If you expected more, it had nothing more for you
>>737646185It would have sold well if Ryu was the protagonist I legit believe that
>>737646362what else do you want?
>>737647330It needs RPG builds, loot and soulsian level design
>>737645786Not really.
>>737645786It was fantastic and we'll never get another action game. Fuck you eat your soulslop
>>737645786It might be my favourite action game mechanically, all the weapons are fun (but the drill is seriously undertuned) and the enemies are good and the bosses are actually good once you get them down it's just that everything outside the combat is bleh
>>737645786No.It was bad and deserved its commercial failure.
>>737645786I agree.
>>737646951It probably would have sold better, but I don't think it would've sold well.
>>737645786yeaI blame the (lack of) marketing
If they wanted it to sell, they should have made Ninja Gaiden instead of this. It might have been accepted by the fans if this was spinoff set 500 years in the future or just a new IP.
>>737646362>>737647330>bunch of combos in a black roomNinja Gaiden was never that.
>>737649240go back
>>737646185Taking that into consideration: It still underperformed.
>>737649240Some /cgg/ guy made an entire video about this tweet lmao
>>737649240>action games should not have combospeople who suck at fighting games say the same thing, interesting
I hope you guys realize a "combo" is something as simple as "square, square, square". Yes, even Dark Souls has combos. You may as well say that action games shouldn't have attacking.
>>737652606Midwits love dogmatic takes because it makes them sound smart. Saying "well it depends" doesn't sound as sexy, need to be assertive and put everything into a LE GOOD and LE BAD box
>>737652138He's probably too stupid to even know what a combo is. When he plays Ninja Gaiden and does XYXXXY, he doesn't realize those 6 moves comboed, or that he can throw shurikens during the combo and go into something else.
>>737652138>>737653424In that context he specifically meant shit like Truestyle DMC4 debug mode combo mads like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfGgYNWhAV4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baP9SBUTjcoCompare that to combos in older games and see how modest they are in comparison like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ALRUE7Gp-4 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0SpT7aMho8
>>737654452meant to also quote >>737652606
>>737652138Samsho and Soul Calibur are better than your favourite fighting game.
>>737654452>he specifically meant shit like Truestyle DMC4 debug mode combo madsI figured he was talking about something like that, but he didn't say "DMC4 combos" or anything close to it. He just said combos, so he looks like an idiot for having a Ryu avatar and saying action games shouldn't have combos.
>>737654452People acting as if autistic combofags is representive of how the average person plays a game reeks of terminally online discord faggotry. This is like people who get angry at speedrunners for "playing the game wrong" literally seething at a niche within a niche such a nothing issue
>>737652138And Itagaki would agree. DOA just like VF are not combo heavy flowchart games. Even DOA5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO7lMsacmpY and DOA6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aMYmlYS1B4 which were not even his games are on par with Tekken 5 when it comes to juggleslopping.Meanwhile Poggen has been a war crime ever since TTT2
>>737655006He's a lolcow but that tweet specifically was part of a back and forth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDLNvUj0IwY
>>737649492From where is this guy taking these numbers? Koei Tecmo openly shared sales of 3D NG series and it was at 6.5 million before NG4 and Black 2 released. This isnt much ofcourse but these numbers are pulled out of ass lol.
>>737655056Itagaki also described Dead or Alive as a fighting game meant to just be casual fun
>>737655051NG4 was specifically made to please the complexity comboautists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDLNvUj0IwY and only they are mostly satisfied with it. To others, it offers very little.
>>737655356Harada said the same about Tekken.And they're both right.
>>737655051>>737655364wrong link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daLWi7KKHy0
>>737655364I'm not a combo autist and I'm satisfied with it. Big fuckoff aoe attacks are really effective and the entire point of the blood attacks so I never mess around with long combos or juggles
>>737651824 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkBIcRV4J3Q
>>737655364>NG4 was specifically made to please the complexity comboautistsNG4 is not "complex" it just that NG1-3 are insanely fucking basic bitch in terms of mechanics. It has one cool unique mechanic which is the essence system but its undermined by how badly balanced it is
>>737655184I watched a bit of that video. That made him out to be a clueless NG2 fanboy, and I didn't like him much going into it.
>posting youtube arguments at each otherJesus Christ
>>737655983Never mess with a Ninja Gaiden fan, they will repost tweets and not play games.
>>737655364the game is significantly less complex than any other NG before it, having wannabe DMC (DmC) combos doesnt change that
>>737645786good doesnt mean iconic or memorable. NG04 is like a korai teabowl whereas NG4 is a plain modern coffee mug.
