>watch "TOP 100 VIDEO GAMES EVER" video in 2010>Goldeneye 007 is somewhere in the top 5>watch "TOP 100 VIDEO GAMES EVER" video in 2026>Goldeneye 007 is STILL somewhere in the top 5Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets? For YEARS I would see older Millennials completely just dickride this game unprompted, and it never made sense because>it fucking sucks>it runs like shit>quake came out the year prior and is a better game>half-life came out the next year and is better gameWhat is it? Is it just an N64 owner thing, where they latched onto it as some god-tier title because they couldn't play Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy 7?
>>737655289You wouldn't get it, snoy.
>>737655532they had bond games too THOUGH
They didn't like this one
>>737655289games dont age btw
The multiplayer was to millennials what Halo online was to Zoomers.The soundtrack is incredible. Its full of TECHNOLOGY that had never been seen on a console FPSYou weren't just running through a level shooting, there was objectives to accomplish that immersed you into feeling like James Bond. and the Cheats like Big Head Mode and Paintball splatters instead of bullet holes was so fun.The game had everything.
I love Half Life and actually played it on release. It is not a better game than Goldeneye. It has very cool setpieces and the intro is legendary. But as an overall package compared to Goldeneye it is severely lacking.
Perfect Dark is better than Goldeneye, same console and developer.
>>737655289It was big at colleges, because you only needed to know one guy who had the system to play it, and it snagged a lot of people into shooters who would have passed on say, a PC LAN party. Most people who love Goldeneye enjoyed the time they had playing it with their friends rather than something the game itself did. Did more to set the table for Halo than anything else.
>What is it? Is it just an N64 owner thing, where they latched onto it as some god-tier title because they couldn't play Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy 7?Yes. 99% of N64 discussion is faux-nostalgia because they couldn't play actual good games.
>>737655289It was the Halo of the era. That's about it.
>>737655289Quake had better multiplayer, but you can't tell me the singleplayer campaign was blowing people away.On the other side, Half-life had a really great one-and-done campaign...but not much else.Goldeneye had great, replayable singleplayer AND multiplayer.
>>737655786Never played Goldeneye or Halo.
>>737655289>Top 5 most important games in the history of video gamesGodeneye : Yes>Top 5 best games to play todayGodeneye : NoIt's that a difference than some people can't make clear
>>737655289>>quake came out the year prior and is a better gameMatter of personal taste as they're different genres but I wouldn't say so. Goldeneye helped pioneer an emerging genre of game, one we don't see much any more but which was hugely popular at the time, that being FPS with objectives, set pieces, and cinematic level design. These became huge for the next two generations and began to decline around 8th gen. Quake is a boomer shooter. You run around an open arena or labrynth and you shoot things, that's it, just move and shoot, it's all about movement, efficiency, and skill mastery. Boring to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.>>737656150Pretty much every gaming household I knew had both an N64 and a PS1. I don't recall knowing anyone who had only one or the other. And I come from a working class area.
>>737655289its n64 derangement. you can see it with the other main games on the system too. retards pretend like this primitive slop was actually the peak of anything and never topped. mario64 is basically a techdemo. oot is empty, slow, zero challenge, and dull. goldeneye is clunky as fuck. mariokart64 is easily the worst entry in the franchise for being so wide and empty. it goes on and on.yes, 3d was an incredible novelty for kids at the time. living through the transition of shitty 2d games, to complex 2d games, to suddenly 3d environments was incredible. we dumped hundreds of hours into them. but some people are just mentally deficient and never continued to grow. their brains got literally fried from the novelty. maybe that sat too close to their crt. while the rest of us continued to actually play games and marvel at the continued improvements, enhancements, innovations, and refinements, they stayed stagnant, deep throating the n64. their unhinged and willfully ignorant obsession has derailed gaming discourse for decades. it can only be described as zealotry.
>>737655289calling anything on the n64 the best is like calling the musket the best firearm. it has an important place in history as foundational, but thats literally it. it aged like milk.
>>737657584People who played n64 most likely moved onto other consoles like gamecube and switch and still appreciate the n64 for its small library of killer apps. Same with ps1 gamers who are now playing ps5. You're just a deranged sonyfag.
>>737657951>You're just a deranged sonyfag.no, i've had a lot of the main consoles. i had genesis and snes, n64 and ps1, ps2 xbox and gamecube, a wii, a switch, and of course pc. i've played on everything since friends always had things i didnt. i dont have bizarre loyalty. i am not a zealot. i can fondly remember the hundreds of hours i dumped into old games, even the shitty ones, and the good times i had. however, i can recognize when their quality doesnt hold up.
>>737655289Goldeneye is a tendie meme, it's not even a top 10 for 90s FPS. Rare was basically a first party back then so that was basically their own special Nintendo exclusive FPS.
>>737657941and yet, mario 64 still has the best controls of any mario game to date
>>737657951People who played n64 most likely moved onto other consoles like gamecube and switch and have stockholm syndrome and nintendo nostalgia disease
>>737655289>What is it? Is it just an N64 owner thingyeshalf life was betterdoom was betterquake was bettermedal of honor was betterunreal was betterduke nukem was betteretc
>>737655289counter point: the reviewer played it as a kid with their pals
>>737655289It was hands down one of the most fun fps multiplayer games of that era to play with your mates around a tv, you might play some Turok to mix things up or prefer perfect dark when it came out, but it had a silky smoothness to it and the physics were just awesome. It had a great single player game and getting gud and unlocking everything was expertly honed and challenging, it had just bags of replayability. I dust it off once in a while and its still fun to zoom through it.
>>737655289Consider that for many people at the time they were playing super nintendo like 2 years ago if not until their birthday last week when they finally got their n64. They had maybe heard of doom or played it and it was neat but was a bunch of sprites vs actual models. A realistic fps with actual real models everywhere and super high tech effects like blood on the models (rather they looked like faint red splotches thanks to n64 textures but still), bullet holes in walls etc was fucking mindblowing to see on top of what may have been babby's first fps. >but quake The average kid's computer could not run it either at all or at more than like 4 fps. Gaming PCs were not a ubiquitous thing back then, 97 was like the very very dawn of that era. Conventional wisdom was more like if your computer could run advanced games you had some $10,000 professional specialist machine that no normal kid is ever going to fucking touch. Lots of kids didn't even have Internet in 97.. maybe not a computer at all outside school. But they did have N64s or had a friend who did.
>>737658372thank you for proving my point. mario's controls have objectively been improved upon since then, but retards will still try and claim that it was somehow the best with absolutely zero evidence to back it up. later games have mario control tighter and smoother, and 64 is objectively the slipperiest. only zealot retards try to claim otherwise. the usual followup they try to pull is to attempt to discredit me as having some sort of loyalty bias to something else. but nothing said has indicated anything like that, and i have played and enjoyed all of the 3d mario games. i LIKE mario64, but i can recognize that it is the weakest entry.
>>737656103>game is only enjoyable with other people>...but you had to be there, man!Why does that even fucking matter when there are dozens of other games from the 90s that are perfectly fine to play today as is? Why does this one game get that special exceptionGoldeneye worship is deranged. Simple as that.
>>737658647sure, but that's not a good reason to rank it highly today
>>737658647>The average kid's computer could not run it either at all or at more than like 4 fps.yeah, the acer computer we had struggled to run lego island. however, halflife DOES exist and halo DOES exist, so trying to claim that goldeneye is good simply because its the only thing you have experience with is nothing more than deliberate, willful ignorance.
Goldeneye is as garbage as Turok.Meanwhile, PCgods played Unreal, Quake, 2, Half-Life and Dark Forcs2: Jedi Knight
>>737655289>Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets?● Adaptation of a Hollywood blockbuster film = inherent fame and fans● Nintendo is the more popular platform = more fame and fans● RARE is famous for producing 3D quality (DKC) = high expectations● 1st-Person perspective is both rare on PC and practically non-existent on platforms = innovative product and people's first experience with a good shooter● Nintendo accessories are fun for kids = JOYSTICK (and trigger!!) to control movement (you could hold it any way you wanted, in fact), rumble-pak, 4-player multiplayerIt was popular because of the joystick, really. It was good because RARE did a fantastic job adapting a massively famous/popular James Bond movie.You see this pic?That joystick?"Video games" weren't using that 30 years ago.WOW; it became popular.
>>737656498halo is better
>>737655289>What is it? Is it just an N64 owner thing, where they latched onto it as some god-tier title because they couldn't play Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy 7?Yes. It was also one of the few shooters the N64 got.
>>737655583yeah and every bond game that isn't goldeneye was mid as fuck
If you held a gun to a Millennials head and told them to say ONE (1) slightly negative thing about the game, they would rather eat the bullet instead.
Its a console thing. As a veteran PC gamer, the N64 was a joke. We were at the knifes edge of inovation, while tendeis got the scraps. lolStill do, heh
>>737658647>but quake >The average kid's computer could not run it either at all or at more than like 4 fps.I had quake on my PC when it dropped and a few other mates got it in 1996, it ran fine and i dont remember any of us having issues even the kid who had to run it from dos. PC gaming was becoming a bit more ubiquitous in 1997 here in the uk at least, but yeah it was still more common kids just had consoles.
>>737655289it's tendie special since it was made by Rareit's like when they try to make people believe banjo or conker's was relevant
>>737658984no pretty much every agrees the "Control" mission sucks ass.
You could actually aim anywhere on the screen with a control stick.Games weren't doing that, before.>AHHH! "DUCK HUNT"Good point, and nothing similar to how "Goldeneye" was doing it, on a map, in 3D.
>>737658915Goldeneye has better music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1MPVbZ-vTg
I don't think it would make the top 100 for me personally. The nostalgia I have for it is insane though. Playing at home with the neighborhood kids, playing in school, playing with random kids in the hotel when my autistic ass took my N64 on Florida vacation. And then when I went off to college "awww dude remember this shit" and I played it alot there too. It is one of the defining games of my generation, but I do agree that is is not good.
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>>737655873>>737656054based and correct posts
Goldeneye is a good game
>>737659128turok
>>737660152...on opposite day.
>>737655289>Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets?Just tendies being tendies. The ones who grew up on the N64 played shitty games while the rest of us were playing masterpieces and now they pretend that games like OoT and Goldeneye are amazing. They aren't.
lol sonegros
>>737655289People who make those lists are just naming popular games.
>>737658746Like I said, it had a low bar of entry since a group only needed one guy who had an N64, and 4-player mode on a console without daisy-chaining peripherals was novel at the time. I don't think the game is anything special in and of itself, that's why I said its fans are remembering the time they spent playing it with friends than anything about the game itself.
>>737655786>Cheats like Big Head Mode and Paintball splatters instead of bullet holes>so funYes "fun"
when was the last time this ever happened?It's a good game, btw.
>>737656054Trvth nvke
I liked how you could shoot guys helmets off, and shoot a grenade in their hand before they toss it, causing it to explode
>>737660516>when was the last time this ever happened?You mean people consistently listing a game year after year near the top of the charts and bamboozaling people who didnt play it at the time?
>Zoomers and Alphas literally can't comprehend the world existed before them and was different than it currently is
>>737660658fuck i forgot about the grenades thingwhat a cool fucking game
>>737660712>N64babies pretending to be oldfagsEvery time. I was playing Doom before you even knew what video games were.
>why do people overrate the first two guys to climb mt everest and not the ten thousandth to do it? The ten thousandth guy did it better!
>>737660658its pretty crazy that they were able to include it in a game so early, but plenty of newer and better games let you do that too.
>>737655289MGS1 and FF7 are almost as overrated.
>>737656054True but it was niche known by hardcore enthusiasts only, a LOT of casuals got filtered because of the memory pack requirement
>>737660751No you weren't. Otherwise you wouldnt fail to see what made goldeneye good.
>>737660712You cannot make this a generation debate when there hundreds of games from the 90s that shit over Goldeneye.Shut the fuck up.
>>737660779>he think its the same climb and the same peakslmao what a joke. ngmi
>>737655289The shooting feels really nice, the graphics are fine, the music fucking ROCKS and the mission design is super cool instead of a linear shooting gallery like most FPS games. That's why nigga
>>737660798>No you weren't.Yes I was. A couple of cool mechanics doesn't make the game not fundamentally play like shit or play on the world's worst controller.
>>737660779FPS were way more advanced on PC already. Goldeneye was climbing Mt Marcy lmao
>>737660849how does goldeneye play like shit?what makes the n64 controller the world's worst controller?
>>737655289i had the ps1, n64 and saturn. You can't get the hype around goldeneye because you are not sentient
>>737660712>heh, don't like my shitty tendie game? you're a zoomer, or worse, an alpha!>i-is...is that medal of honor, quake, doom, wolfenstein, turok, unreal tournament, half-life, shadow warrior, and blood? AHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO I AM GOING INSANE HELP ME NINTENDO
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>>737660751>>Doombabies pretending to be oldfagsEvery time. I was playing Catacomb 3d before you even knew what video games were.
>>737658954>nightfire was mid as fuckShut your whore mouth.
>>737655289It made a huge hit culturallyWhen N64 was first popular and couch split screen was novel, it as a popular party thing even among normies. Goldeneye was the go to game to play with your friends in this way. Keep in mind that Perfect Dark 64 is basically Goldeneye but better in every way but has less than half the sales because the N64 couch lan party had stopped being a novel experience and only nerds really cared anymore.
>>737660712Must suck being a tendie whose only options for FPS were Goldeneye and Perfect Dark lmao
>>737660892>what makes the n64 controller the world's worst controller?If you want people to take you seriously, try not making it obvious that you're a demented N64baby tendie pretending that you aren't completely ignorant about video games.
>>737660828>if i randomly and irrelevant to the diacussion bring up [insert older game here] it will prove my gamer street credYou underage retards are so easy to detect its pathetic. Yeah Doom is a good game too. Bringing it up doesnt somehow disprove goldeneye being good or youngfags being unable to understamd why people like it. Please lurk more, your retarded "logic" adds nothing to the discussion.
>>737660951Sorry to burst your bubble kid, but it was
>>737660892>i need to be spoonfed the most basic observations>surely if you explain it, i will actually be able to grasp it, even though the obvious point and observation has eluded meand here we see a case of the zealot being disingenuous, trying to drag you down to the depths of their retardation and waste time.
>>737660948I was playing Wolfenstein before Doom. I just don't pretend that there were any really great fps games before Doom. There's a reason the entire genre was just called Doom clones for a while. Not that a LARPing tendie would remember that.
>Itt: elden ring "pros" who got filtered by control on 00 agent and are still seething about it
>>737660849You dont know what you are talking about. You never played it on original hardware and are assblasted that it didnt play well on your emulator.
>>737661002>random aggressive niggerbabble that has nothing to do with the topic at handWhy are Goldeneye cultists legitimately retarded? Did they never touch a single video game before the release of the N64?
>>737660985>he wasn't theremany such cases on /v/
>>737661049>everyone i dont like is a fromsoft fanrent free lmao
>>737660985>>737660921You forgot to post a wojak to really drive your infantile tantrum home.
>>737660249opposite day is over.
>>737661002Me based boomer who like shitty game.You underaged zoomer who like bad game.My axe wound very big. N64 super nostalgic. Grug had to be there, man.
>>737661109i picked this one because it's the most famous, i could have picked anything else. but concession accepted nonetheless.
>>737660926>>737660993>>737661041>refuses to answer the questioni want to hear your genuine answers
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>>737661043Ok if thats true how did you go about playing it?Where did you get it and what did you play it on?
>>737661218This smelly tendie didn't have friends or cousins.
So you're telling me the people who deepthroat Goldeneye are the same people who never got over peaking at high school in the 90s? That makes a lot of sense.
>>737661128emulators hasn't been a thing in 1994, stupid autist.
>it's fun>the music and sound design fuckin slap>it's fun>the animations and map design are really good>it's fun>it is surprisingly faithful to the movie but not so much it feels like a cashgrab>it's fun
>>737661275What was his name?
>>737661109obsessedayy
>>737661294>60 fpsyou didn't beat it
>>737661284What ESLbabble is this?
>>737660668Goldeneye specifically being recognised as one of the top five games of all time, in some kind of official poll.Top 30-40, maybe. Top 5, i doubt it. I don't know if it even would have got then. Once you've worked through Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy 7, Metal Gear Solid, and a bunch of Mario games, you've already gone past 5.
>>737655786zoomers didn't play halo gramps. your memory is failing you in old age.
>>737661294remaster is kinda ugly
>>737661341What UOLpedors is this?
>>737660887pc fps were running around mazes like a retard looking for keys. The only exception is Half Life, which came out after Goldeneye and copied it
>>737660985You know Doom, Quake and Duke Nukem were *also* on N64? They weren't as good as Goldeneye, don't get me wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5AyJGBVYw
And why is ocarina of time always the top 1?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6hsdWGF0no>>737661471because it is the top 1
>>737661002First off, retard, you said:>comprehend the world existed before them and was different than it currently isThere was no point saying that when the same world had better games than Goldeneye, yet you're throwing an autistic tantrum going "NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT" calling everyone else the zoomer. Kill yourself you worthless faggot.Goldeneye sucks. End of story. Weep, accept it, cry, shit your pants.
>>737661471it's the best one.
>>737661471the same reason. n64 derangement and zealotry.
I'll explain why this game causes flamewars, there was more seethe in this era over which tech you had or had preference for as games were advancing in scope and scale, and what was rare i remember both in the 80's and 90's was not too many kids having multiple consoles. Console warring seemed to ratchet up a notch in the ps1/n64 years, and this game was a bit of a red flag. PS1 had a huge edge and so did PC gaming for obvious reasons, but this game and how quick it was to fire up and fun to play was a cat amongst the pigeons, nintendo fanboys did love to gloat about it and ps1/PC players tried hard to say they werent bothered. I remember some fanboyism in the genesis/snes years and im old enough to remember the master system/nes titles that caused conversations, but this title sticks in my head as one the most controversial of the 90's.
>>737661471because eric lost and got the same thing happened to arthur in joker 2
>>737661471Because tendies and journalists don't play games.
>>737661436>...doo doot>...doo doot>...doo doot>...doo doot
>>737655289It came with a $60 million movie that every 12 year old boy liked and wanted to be like the main character.
Year 1997>DUDE, CHECK THIS OUTYear 2026>I disagree with someone else. This, obviously, means THEY ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG AND NEED TO DIE GET OUT OF YOUR SAFE SPACE SO I CAN KILL YOU>I need to contradict someone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T-RM_3EJzM
Coincidentally Goldeneye was the best bond movie since The Spy Who Loved Me
>>737661534>derangementthe only derangement comes from the haters who had the n64 living rent free in their head for the past 30 years, a console that supposedly was bad, had no games and sold poorly.
you could play multiplayer FPS on the console for the first time in historythe campaign is excellent as wellgreat replayability too with unlocking all the cheatseat shit zoomers
ACTUAL GOOD 007 GAME COMING THROUGH
the extra stages being based on older Bond movies was a very nice touch
On another note the AKI wrestling games, World Tour, No Mercy, WM2000, and Revenge on n64 are still the best wrestling games ever made
>super mario 64 sucks>...>ocarina of time sucks>...>majoras mask sucks>...>paper mario sucks>...>goldeneye sucks>ALRIGHT THAT'S TAKING IT TOO FUCKING FAR YOU'RE A ZOOMER AND I NEED TO KILL YOU RIGHT FUCKING NOW *foams at the mouth*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CN49Feexb8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJ8JNtxw8w
>>737661471>amazing and cohesive world>amazing soundtrack>great level design and dungeons and puzzles>great quests and sidequests>great combat and overall gameplay>tons of varied equipment with multiple utilities>Z-targeting revolutionised the industryeven autojumping, one of the major complaints /v/ schizos level at the game, was really cool in practice because there was never any reason to jump when you weren't facing a ledge (outside of combat, where you could do dodge jumps and a leaping attack while Z-targeting anyway) and you were free to jump off of ledges that led nowhere or to your deathit deserves to be top 10 at the bare minimum and it's not outlandish at all to put it at the very top
>>737661659Agreed, but it could have used more interaction between Bond and Alec Trevelyan It's interesting how different it is from the remaining Brosnan films. It feels like one of the Dalton movies
>>737662147>great level design and dungeons and puzzlesI made it this far before I started laughing.
Is anyone working on a pc decomp of this and would it be theoretically possible to add online multiplayer with more than 4 players?
>>737662197elaborate
>>737655289Better than anything on the PS1. Holy fuck this and Perfect Dark were so good.
>>737658664Not really. I just appreciated all the shit you could do, the backflips, the spins, the kickflips, even the baby crawling. Modern marios feel like you can just jump, ground pound, crouch-jump and w/e is the title's main gimmick like throw cappy or whatever. None of the extra parkour bullshit made it out of 64 and I miss it.I agree that basic handling has improved, just wish his moveset wasn't as railroaded.
>>737655289The average Goldeneye fan cannot read. Trying to play FF7, FF8, or even FF9 would be pure torture to them.In other words: they're cattle.
They should make separate lists for highly influential games and games actually good now. But some have a problem "advertising" new games if they aren't paid for it. So they will put NES Tetris or GameBoy Tetris on these lists but not the much better VR version. It would be more helpful for people looking for great games they might have missed to put the actually best in a genre currently on the Best lists and mention the influential classics in the description or even better just put the influential classics in their own lists. Goldeneye is shit now.
>>737661361Yeah im not sure id put goldeneye in a top 5 of all time, it does make it into my personal top 10 though because i didnt have a ps1 and it was the most fun game i think i played on my n64 (and ever), i drew up a list in 2023 and its in my top 10 with oot as the only other n64 game. Its certainly one of the top 5 n64 games though.
>>737662249The overworld sucks and the dungeons are not good. They're all samey in design and boring/railroaded in layout. The puzzles are also terrible. Just compare the level that retarded OoToddlers pretend is a complicated labyrinth (Water Temple) to something like Cistern in Tomb Raider that came out a year earlier. The water level mechanic is a much more important part of level design because you actually need to figure out the order to do things in instead of just doing the one thing you can always do in an OoT dungeon, and because you can actually dive and swim, the 3D navigation becomes a much, much more in depth part of level navigation compared to the shitty iron boots that just sink you and essentially let you walk on another floor below you. And TR was a full year older. Now you can ignore all that and try to handwave it with some nonsense about how no game combined a bunch of shitty elements to make an amazing whole like OoT did.
>>737655289i never got it's ranking dominance either considering it's not even the best N64 multiplayer shooter produced by Rarewaret. elder millennial
>>737661675>THE N64 IS THE BEST!!!!>OOT IS THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME!!!!! >TOP OF THE CHARTS FOR DECADES!!!!!>GOLDENEYE IS THE BEST FPS EVER MADE!!!!>ITS THE BEST!!!>ITS THE BEEEEEEEST!!!!!!!>dude what are you talking about? we had fun back in the day, but it doesnt really hold up. its not really that good>WTF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!>YOU'RE A DERANGED HATER AND JUST JEALOUSriiiight.
>>737661840aztec is based on goldeneye
>>737662568as opposed to people not doing that with ps1 games?
>>737662670Only the ones that still play great. FFVII and MGS aren't the masterpieces that people pretend they are.
>>737662468>Just compare the level that retarded OoToddlers pretend is a complicated labyrinth (Water Temple) to something like Cistern in Tomb Raider that came out a year earlier.these are the exact same level of complexity
>>737662469>N64 multiplayer shooter produced by Rarewaregoldeneye, perfect dark, conker, DK64.... am i missing any?
>>737662468>Now you can ignore all that and try to handwave it with some nonsensethanks for displaying your insecurities in front of everyone
>>737662929>these are the exact same level of complexityEven if you want to pretend that about the structure (which is still wrong) I explained in detail why Cistern is more complex because of the non-linearity in the level design and the freeform 3D movement as a result of being able to swim. There is absolutely no way you can pretend Water Temple is just as complex.>>737662980Thanks for announcing that you're a retarded N64baby that didn't actually play any of the good games that came out in the 90s.
>>737662305>None of the extra parkour bullshit made it out of 64 and I miss it.there is literally no need to crawl. there is no need to breakdance kick. there is no need to dropkick when the dive exists. there is no need to do any of them even in 64. none of those things are useful "parkour" either. you can still double and triple jump. you can still sideflip. you can still long jump (except sunshine). you can still backflip. you can still dive and dive jump. you can still wallkick/trianglejump. you can still groundpound. they ADDED the spin/tornado jump. you literally have no argument and are pretending that they removed key functions.
>>737661774Connery sounds like he is on life support in this game
>>737656054Perfect Dark was just Goldeneye with more content. So if you didnt care for a James Bond skin a much better game.
>>737663005kek seething
>>737663026it was nothing like goldeneye beside sharing the same engine and more content doesn't mean better. case in point with perfect dark
>>737663097Very brown post.
>>737663005>the non-linearity in the level designit's still just find key unlock door>and the freeform 3D movement as a result of being able to swim.yeah, to the objectives, and it only felt like an open level because tomb raider's camera and movement were fucking assthis is the same mindset that complains about OOT not having a jump button, getting to swim around in a flooded room for the sake of it adds absolutely nothing to the game
>>737662670objectively, there is significantly less. even ff7fags usually stick to "best rpg" and not "best game period", but they are also usually laughed at and only given "best story and characters maybe". i cant really think of another ps1 game that even comes close to the zealotry of n64. even mgs fags usually go for mgs2 or 3, but i rarely if ever see anything other than "its good" or "its a must play". i dont really see a superiority complex from them, no. and even if there are, they usually get laughed out pretty firmly. n64 zealots are a much larger group that circle jerk each other like the gayest fraternity on earth. oot is the absolute worst when it comes to this.
>>737663202>it's still just find key unlock doorYou need to stop talking about games you don't play. Making vague blanket statements to try to boil them down to the same thing doesn't work when the person you're talking to has actually played both games. You might as well say Daggerfall dungeons are the same because you just find keys and hit switches.>yeah, to the objectivesNigger what the fuck are you even saying? You can swim to where you need to go so it's not open? How fucking stupid are you?>this is the same mindset that complains about OOT not having a jump buttonAnd it's shit for that.>getting to swim around in a flooded room for the sake of it adds absolutely nothing to the gameYou don't get to talk about complexity in level design while also pretending that anything other than going right to the next mandatory section doesn't matter. I'm not going to waste time arguing if that's the stupid stance you take after bringing up level complexity.
>>737663020He basically was. He retired from acting like a year after. It's really weird to see young connery being voiced by old connery.
>>737655289>Is it just an N64 owner thing, where they latched onto it as some god-tier title because they couldn't play Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy 7?Yest.34yo.
>be American millennial>live in cozy upper-middle class area>soccer mom buys you a Nintendo 64 because The 700 Club told her that PlayStation games have blood>parents can also afford you to buy the entire Rareware library>since you are rich and American, your family are also early adopters of the internet>lo and behold, everyone else online is also a rich American from a Nintendo 64 household>Ocarina group masturbation session ensues>The internet universally agrees that ReDeads are the scariest things ever invented because none of you ever played Silent Hill>Internet gaming culture is built upon the idea that everyone owned a Nintendo 64 and everyone agrees Ocarina of Time is unambiguously the best game ever made>Fast forward 20 years>Euros, Aussies, and working class Americans are now online>You find out that the Nintendo 64 absolutely fucking bombed outside of middle America and nobody gives a fuck about Ocarina of Time>Even in the US the N64 was massively outsold by the PS1, let alone abroad>Persecution complex ensues>"This can't be........did.....did I shit my pants over Wind Waker's graphics for nothing?">Start calling Ocarina underrated due to the fact that people who've played more than 1 fucking game don't think it's the best
>>737663406>You don't get to talk about complexity in level design while also pretending that anything other than going right to the next mandatory section doesn't matter.lol
>>737655289Okay but name a FPS on PS1 that even comes close to having the multiplayer appeal as Goldeneye. That was the real selling point. Basically a party game but it's a shooter from an era where that was unheard of outside of PC gaming.
>>737663197Very green post
>>737655289>quake came out the year prior and is a better gameI can kind of understand the half-life comparisons, but Quake, really? Compare how an enemy reacts to being shot in Goldeneye to how an enemy reacts to being shot in Quake. Compare the design of the areas in Goldeneye that look like actual movie location with the corridors of Quake.Like, I can understand the complaints about the framerate, but Goldeneye was doing stuff on a completely different level from Quake. I played Quake on pc when it came out and Goldeneye still felt like it was a generation ahead.
>>737655289>Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets?Nintendo 64 games are extremely overrated. Some users have already come up with possible explanations. They should be in this very thread.Anyway, Goldeneye is way too simplistic.Unlike games like Doom (which allows for an infinite combination of monsters and battle situations), Quake (with its movement that can be pushed to human limits), Build games (with their super-intricate level design), Half-Life (with its narrative), Unreal (with its multiplayer), Counter-Strike (with its strategy), etc., Goldeneye really has no redeeming qualities.Perhaps only the system that identifies where a shot hits different parts of the characters, which ironically is just a remnant from when the game was a inferior version of Virtua Cop. But it's not as if that really matters much in the game's simplistic combat.
I'm curious what a top 50 list would look like for zoomers. Like would they have shit like minecraft and fortnite and roblox in the top 10?
>>737659127What? That was the most intense. The only underwhelming level was jungle.
for me, its surface 2
>>737662469Best MP modes in CBFD were Beach and TankTotal War was good too
>>737663501>he was too poor to own boththis board is so fucking brown
>>737664616this but green instead.
>>737664587think you mean Colors
>>737664684Ahh yeahh, Colors was great!Used to try and get the knives as soon as possible. So hard to use, but the potential for OHKO's was unreal.
>>737663980Why does saying that the other games around Goldeneye's release are better make someone a zoomer?
>>737655289Ask yourself this;When Fartnite is shutdown, what will you be able to play?
>>737664973007: The World Is Not Enough
Goldeneye has such an insane variety of levelsthe dam, the chemical factory, the runway, the open snowfield of surface, the missile silo, the frigate, the train, the bunker, the old soviet graveyard, the archives, the streets, the cradle, the jungle off the top of my headand at the time it was closer to photorealistic than anything on console before iti just looked up a longplay of quake 2 and every single fucking level looks the samei like half life but lets not pretend its 90% steel corridors i love metal gear but mgs doesnt hold a candle to goldeneye in the actual combat department
>>737655289It just is for the reasons already mentioned. It was a genuine milestone for 3D shooters.I also grew up on PC with half life, doom, duke3d, whatever, and we had a ps1 and played through all of metal gear solid (great game, I'd put it up there as well).>>737664162Snow levels are pretty comfy, but going through the frigate interior was always fun to me.
>>737664162For me its license to kill, pistols only, no oddjob hax
>>737664973The entire PS1 catalog I suppose.
>>737664993No, your zoomer fag, you can't play old games pre 2015, fuckers
>>737664905for me it was perfecting my grenade sense to produce a perfectly timed arc that explodes right next to an enemy without touching the ground. magical.
>>737665132Pussy retard, I'm sick of oddjob being "difficult"AIM WITH STICK, MOVE WITH C BUTTONS, YOU BECOME GOD
>>737664162for me, it's Archives on 00 Agent in under 1:20
>>737665187I am sorry, could you repeat that but not in whatever broken ESL garble you're jibberjabbin' in?
>>737661002Ya got em BOILING with this one, anon.
We need to bring back the IP counter.
>>737665241He had advantages to skilled players, me and the boys accepted this and he was omerta
>>737660985Jesus, just open wikipedia or youtube and look up all the shit you weren't there for underage faggot.
>>737665496Why say that when it's obvious that Doom 64 and Turok would filter you because it's not the smelly dogshit called Goldeneye?
>>737663692>Okay but name a FPS on PS1why limit to ps1? why is comparison limited to contemporaries? other things exist. "its not fair" isnt an argument, thats just whining that you know your precious n64 shit gets mogged.
>>737665695okthe best shooter of all time is Saros because it's the newest and has cool tech :)
>>737662310There is no voiced dialogue in Goldeneye and pages of mission briefs. Are you mentally ill?
>>737665765>because it's the newesthas never been a valid justification. but thank you for proving me right that zealots can only be disingenuous in their arguments.
>>737655289First multiplayer FPS to scratch that deep reptilian itch at a young age. That's why.
>>737665874>no not this>no not this eitherok name something
I picked Jaws.
>>737665808>Are you mentally ill?I don't like Goldeneye, so no.
>>737663873>Unlike games like Doom (which allows for an infinite combination of monsters and battle situations), Quake (with its movement that can be pushed to human limits), Build games (with their super-intricate level design), Half-Life (with its narrative)He actually typed this and no one will dispute it because the hate boner for Nintendo on this board justifies lying to make other games appear much better.
>>737655289it was a genuine phenomenon at the time and people's brains calcify as they age, cementing it's status as immutable
>>737665423Josh - NO!
>>737665051Your post will go ignored... because "uhhh yeah tendie toddler brought up an objective point!"
>>737655289N64 has like 10 games and that's one of them. It's not that deep.
>>737665612>Doom 64 and Turok>Literally some of my favorite FPS on the consoleWhy are you so asshurt that Goldeneye is better?
>>737655786What millennials loved Gaylo
>>737665945halo mogs goldeneye. tf2 mogs the multiplayer. a myriad of call of duty games mog the multiplayer. there is a very extensive list of better fps games.
>>737655289It's the same shit that happened to Earthbound, Zombie Ate My Neighbors, etc. Just a couple of mental ill millennial tendies hyping random shit up because that's all they had access to when they were kids. Goldeneye was irrelevant to the genre and gaming as whole, it was just a N64 game made by Rare, which was basically a Nintendo studio for tendies at the time, so they had to jerk it off.
>>737664162This is fucking it
>>737666417>Goldeneye was irrelevant to the genre and gaming as wholePlease leave your favela once in your life.
>>737666417i feel like earthbound only blew up because of smash bros. nobody talked about it until everyone was forced to go "who the fuck is 'ness'?"not sure what you mean about zombies ate my neighbors though. as somebody that had it (for genesis, the better version) i enjoyed it, but recognize a lot of the flaws and frustrations of it, and i never really see it praised to the degree of anything on the n64. like, its cool, and "oh man, remember how hard this was?" but thats it.
>>737666417>Goldeneye was irrelevant to the genre and gaming as whole>top 3 game on n64>8 million unitsthis level of butthurt needs to be studied
>>737666520Kaneda what do you see?
>>737666545Youtube videos by mental ill tendies don't count.>>737666573One of the 10 games N64 had, big deal.
>>737666375>halo mogs goldeneye.ehh, it has better combat but the level design is significantly worse in MP>tf2 mogs the multiplayertrue>a myriad of call of duty games mog the multiplayerbut their campaigns are setpiece ass
>>737666756and their gameplay is ALL better. even if the story or setpieces are "worse" they all objectively PLAY better.
>>737666375>>737666756Halo has vehicles which are cool but Timesplitters 2 and 3 are spiritual successors to Goldeneye and they're far better than the Halo games
>>737666843ok? so timesplitters 2 and 3 are better than goldeneye. glad we can agree that goldeneye is bottom tier trash.
>>737666708>One of the 10 games N64 had, big deal.that level of butthurt could replace oil as fuel
>>737655289>first game that felt like a "real" shooter>to this day is fun to first time players while quake is only fun if you played it back the dayI love quake btw
>>737666520Video actually gives me tears sometimes. So fucking pure that it wipes away a few days' 2026 internet demoralization every time I watch.
>>737667516demoralization is when someone says my objectively shitty game sucks
>>737666047It’s the absolute truth. Goldeneye is fun, don’t get me wrong, but it’s a simplistic game.It’s as fun as, I don’t know, mini-golf, or fucking Ludo. It'll give you a good casual time, but it lacks depth.
>>737656150>sony pony mentions 2 single player games as god-tier in comparison to a multiplayer game.It really is just that the PS1 was for loners while the N64 was for people who actually had friends.
>>737667659what happened in your life that caused so much butthurt over a 30 years old children's video game?
>>737667516Same
>>737667715exactly. you're allowed to enjoy your slop, but pretending like it isnt slop or that its superior is just delusion.
>>737661209They weren't smart enough to figure out how to hold it. You have to remember, they aren't as smart as the millennials, which have been confirmed to be the smartest generation to have ever lived.
>>737655289I doubt your post, wheres the 2026 video that places it in the top 5 ?It's just a memorable game because great music, great atmosphere/context, fun and creative objectives for a FPS, mostly memorable throughout. It's janky and easy but it's like going through a museum and appreciating the works of art.I'm pretty sure multiplayer would still be fun too.Also,>quake and half life are better>they dont offer the same style of experience at all>doesnt ask himself what kind of game he wants to play, has to autistically rank games so the dark/edgy game always win
>>737668123until you can fit all 3 handles into your holes at the same time, you arent allowed to comment on the design of the controller.
>>737655289It's a nintendo game.
>>737666520beautiful
>>737668359Or a Rare game and everything they did was based/unique.
>hAlO iS bEtTeR!Goldeneye came out in 97 on a 5th gen console. Halo came out in 01 on a 6th gen console.Console warring fanboys are such losers.
What do they eat?
>>737668353Not a single game ever used all 3 anon. I know you have trouble comprehending such a concept. I don't hold it against you that you're too stupid to understand.
>>737668756>they came out at different times and on different consoles/generations>somehow this is a relevant point?????
>>737668839elios pizza
>>737668976when did i say anything about games? i made a very clear and simple sentence. jesus christ you're fucking stupid.
MOTHERFUCKING KLOBBS
>>737655289you weren't there so you can't and will never understand. It's amazing - the Final Gatekeeping.
>>737668989Yes anon. The retard with his Nintendo trauma doesn't seem to grasp that important distinction and neither do you apparently. Now go back to your pony containment board.
>>737669067I am very, very upset that I wasn't there when you and all your buds played Goldeneye's multiplayer and made the loser suck everyone else's cock.
>>737669045Bitch you don't even know how to capitalize the first word of a sentence! You don't ever get to claim you've made a clear sentence you cock sucking retard.
>>737669072>Now go back to your pony containment board.
>>737669072raya and the last dragon (sisu) isnt pony. its just a reaction image with a puzzled face. how is coming out at different times, on different generations/consoles relevant when the simple point is that goldeneye isnt that good and other games (like halo) are far better?
>>737669148
goldeneye is really good and perfect dark is even better
>>7376552891. it's fun2. it's fun3. it's fun4. you kill russians, loads of them, you kill em in every possible way, in every possible setting
>>737667715This is maximum levels of cope. You truly believe people play Doom to this day because of the "infinite combinations of battle situations"(kek lmao)It's a far more simplistic game but since it's on PC(your platform of choice) it's void of actual criticism. Both games are great but your anus is bleeding and it's obvious. Also no one plays Half Life for it's narrative, what a faggot thing to say.
>>737670135got shilled into playing perfect dark and it's inferior to goldeneye
>>737671427but literally everything is better
>>737655289What blew me away was the way the world reacted to you, and the amount of freedom you were given. It was neat how you could shoot the hats off off enemies, the fact that enemies took locational damage and you could see where you hit them and they reacted differently based on where they were shot. You could fail a mission and it would still keep playing, it wouldn't be an instant game over. There were a ton of weapons and secrets and cheats you could mess around with too. Quake was a completely different game, much more polished, but more focused, it didn't have the same scope in terms of mission objectives, it was more about mastering the mechanics/movement and having tight level and enemy design.
>>737671427back in the day everyone was mad about the aliens but I think people came around on it
>>737657037>I don't recall knowing anyone who had only one or the otherI only had n64 and had friends who only had ps1, but because we visited each other's houses we played both systems
>>737655786It’s ironic that Pcfags shit on Goldeneye and Halo when both are miles better than all of the generic shooterslop releasing on pc at the time. Feels like the hatred comes from jealousy more than anything.
It's great, but honestly it's inferior to TimeSplitters 2 and TimeSplitters Future Perfect.TimeSplitters 2 is the greatest game ever produced, so there's that.
>>737671794doomfags are truly the worst thing pc has ever producedt. pc tendie
>>737656205Halo sucked goldeneye was fun
>>737671794I had a PC and N64 and later an Xbox and never felt that any sort of superiority argument made sense. There were great games all over the place and yet people pretended that any random game was shit. Goldeneye had the advantage that you could have three friends over and go wild until the pizza and Mountain Dew put you into a coma. Half Life has an argument at offering a better single player experience. But in retrospect I think it's fair to talk about how they've aged back or even out of their top 100 rankings. As much as I still think Goldeneye is a great game, I couldn't imagine sweeping my arm at ALL the options and saying it's #5 best currently available. That's just dishonest.
>>737656150I playued Goldeneye on my N64, while I emulated MGS and FF
>>737659580You have an absolutely cucked mind. The 'gamefeel' due to how satisfying the core mechanics are alone puts it in the top 5 FPS games, and combine that with the mission design, replay value though all the bonuses, innovative and balanced use of stealth mechanics etc. there are hardly many FPS games that would beat it outright.Don't let your mind be taken over by PC fag talking points, you loved the game because it was a bloody good game, it doesn't suddenly become a shit game because people who don't care about the elegant and clever design it actually has convinced you to overlook what you experienced.
Why is it always >Zelda: Ocarina of Time >FF7>Goldeneye?
>>737673770the true cuck is the one vehemently defending primitive slop because the concept of moving on and recognizing better things is "betraying" it. look, we get it. the n64 was there for you more than mommy and daddy were during the divorce. but you dont have to white knight for it. it isnt going to fuck you. it isnt going to tuck you in at night and kiss your forehead. grow up.
Why is it always the N64 that has this status where its treated as some godly platform that can do no wrong?You don't see this for the Gamecube.You don't see this for the Wii.
>>737673819big impressions during formative years. those big, loud impressions occur during the foundation of internet and collective opinion.something new comes out and "yeah thats cool and all, but enough about that, remember how GREAT x/y/z were????" they dominate the talking space with their zealotry.even beyond to true zealots, you get performative bandwagoners that just repeat the "facts" because "thats how its always been" and they just want to be part of the cool kids club. review scores are products of their time, and dont get updated, so big impressions get put on pedestals as an indication of intrinsic quality. novelty and the nostalgia for it are a hell of a drug.
>>737674196Because it was the first console to do 3D well. PSX games controlled like shit.
>>737674283>PSX games controlled like shit.Yeah, if you were retarded.
>>737674196novelty and nostalgia, coupled with how it was there for them to provide comfort and an escape while mommy and daddy went through their divorce. it imprints big feelings in impressionable young minds, that circumvent critical thinking.
>>737673819because they were excellent executions on their ideas and were hugely influential on games that followed
>>737674328Mario 64 shits all over every platformer on playstation.
>>737674387>but the iiiiiiiinfluence!>the IIIIIIIIIIINFLUENCE!!!!its always such desperate kvetching cope to pretend like it was better than the things that built upon it. they are dead and buried in the ground while better things stand tall. move on.
>>737673819Fanboys love to argue and go in circles over the same shit ad nauseam. No one is ever convinced of anything and it's just faggots still loving their games the same way. For whatever reason the contrarians on this board hate when people are postitive about anything.
>>737674468and the first half of the post?
>>737674196>Why is it always the N64 that has this status where its treated as some godly platform that can do no wrong?This exact phrase will be posted about PC/PS1/SNES anything. It's just you retards hate when people enjoy vidya so it must be some sort of nintendie or youtube obsession huh? Not actual genuine enjoyment?
>>737674387pretending that it stands as quality because of the influence it had is like pretending the musket is a quality firearm. like calling the musket a top 5 firearm against the hundreds of years of innovation since then. like calling a playskool keyboard a top 5 instrument because it influenced kids to become musicians. what a fat crock of shit.
>>737674641>>737674571?
Halo mogs it. I can’t believe anyone thinks this is a debate. Vehicles and huge maps are fun.
>>737674571ff7's greatest flaw is the graphics. other than that, its pretty standard for everything else in the genre. can jrpgs be considered high quality games? arguable personal taste. oot has a myriad of flaws and shortcomings. the praise it gets is a massive joke. goldeneye has some neat details, but it is extremely rough and future fps games are incredibly refined in comparison. its rather primitive for an fps. adding in mario64, its a serviceable tech demo. it succeeds in what it does due to its simplicity. the objectives arent overly ambitious. even still, everything about it has been refined and improved since then. "good at the time" is not justification.
>>737656054I should do a playthrough of Perfect Dark on mouse and keyboard, been putting it off. Literally haven't touched it since I was a kid.
>>737674737"but the musket can still kill a man!" performing the intended function is not the same as performing the intended function WELL. the benchmark for quality has dramatically shifted since then.
>>737655289Quake sucks dick and Half-Life is a movie.
>>737674926what is the greatest gun of all time
>>737674864That's great, it's also great how most people will still go back and would rather play those games instead of modern shit. I can also tell you're a zoomer who is looking at all of this with hindsight and not how it was at the time. There is something called progression, and video games have stagnated because there is nothing to achieve in the medium creatively except seeing how much facial pores and politics you can force into a game. Developers used to copy physics and game concepts involving genres. Now all they copy is battle passes and live service shit. "Good at the time" is justification because they were better than good. They were fantastic.
>>737675118>you have to pick a definitive bestlmao no i dont>yes you do, otherwise i've wonnot how that works>no, you need to name something specific so that i can change the topic and focus on the flaws of that thing, while ignoring the original n64 topicyour bait is extremely transparent, impotent, and pointless. the point isnt about choosing some sort of definitive best, its about recognizing basic facts that this shit has aged and does not hold up compared to others.
>>737675230i accept your concession
>>737655289Most 007 games have been shit, including Goldeneye. And Perfect Dark sucked too.I expect IOI to make the only good one. Just not into epsionage kind of games being mindless shooters. I expect them to be more stealthy.
>>737675212>most people will still go back and would rather play those games instead of modern shit.meanwhile, modern games still selling millions. your "most people" argument falls flat. being personally jaded about the state of modern AAA is not an argument. >I can also tell you're a zoomer who is looking at all of this with hindsight and not how it was at the time.no, i lived through it. genesis, snes, n64, ps1, ps2, xbox, gamecube, wii, switch, pc. i owned all of those and played everything inbetween with friends. i lived through it, but i grew up. i still go back and play plenty of old games, but n64 shit aint it. >video games have stagnatednot an argument for n64's quality. any stagnation is leagues above the n64 in quality. the plateau is much higher than the n64's highest peak. >blah blah blah, im jaded about battle passes and mtxnothing about the actual gameplay, and you're just a whining bitch having a nostalgia boner for when you were a kid. you lack the capability to think critically.
>>737675285thank you for proving me correct with your actions.
>>737675424>>737675459what is the greatest shooter of all time
>>737675285confession denied
>>737675484see >>737675230
>>737675505you have all these problems with everyone's justifications, let's see what yours looks like
>>737675532>lets see what basic facts and comparisons look likeyou cant read previous posts in the thread? you lack the cognitive ability to recognize that the n64 aged like milk? the concept of "it is far less than others" isnt self evident when you look at them? if you lack that, how could anything i say in text convince you to believe otherwise? dont worry, im sure being a zealot for an outdated primitive entry will pay off for you someday.
>>737675675how the fuck am i supposed to know which posts are yours you schizo
>>737655289perfect dark was always betterbut goldeneye was baby's first fps so it gets unlimited praise
>>737675424My apologies I incorrectly labled you as a zoomer. You're a redditor. As you seem to think newer = better in all cases. You also refuse to give any examples which is typical redditor behavior.>being personally jaded about the state of modern AAA is not an argumentBut being jaded towards older games is according to you, lel. Might I add most of the biggest franchises were born during the PS1/N64 era or thrived most during that era. Basically people demanding these games either come back or be remade. Which I do not want, but clearly is the case.>nothing about the actual gameplay, and you're just a whining bitch having a nostalgia boner for when you were a kid.Lmao, I mentioned physics and game genres. But since you were most likely not there... Open world stuff after GTA 3, Tony Hawk clones and skateboarding/extreme sports everywhere, Zelda clones in 3D, RPGs wanting to be the next FF, the rise of FMVs and CD audio, Half Life 2 inspired multiple games to have gravity gun like weapons, etc. You're just a retard who thinks I'm strictly speaking about N64 era shit when I'm not. Gaming is shit because of morons like you who think it came out last week so = better!
>>737675762why does it have to be mine? the truth is self evident, and multiple people have spoken on it. your need for it to be specifically mine tips your hand that you arent interested in a genuine response or discussion at all, but that you want to pick and prod at personal character and "tastes", which is again a deflection from the topic.
>>737675889>why does it have to be mine?what do you think is the greatest shooter of all time?
>>737675889Goldeneye won, keep malding.
>>737673819I replayed FF7 a few weeks ago and it has aged like fine wine, literally zero problems with it besides the fodder random encounter fights.
>>737655289Half-life was only good because took their quake-mod looking thing they'd made, threw it in the trash and started again after they played Goldeneye, because they knew it would no longer cut it. Even with the upgrade there's still some things in H-L that I missed from GE at the time: the way you just pour bullets into a human in H-L and they don't even flinch until they pop and fall down with like one generic animation, they don't get blood on the models. There's no shine to glass in H-L the engine can't do it. No music...
>>737656150>>737671794What if I told you I had both a PC and a N64, and loved both Quake and Goldeneye?also, top whatever lists are always retarded because believe it or not, there are a ton of amazing games throughout the medium's history, and picking "the best of the best" serves no real purpose and leaves out so many great ones.
>>737676203>No music...there was if you played it with the CD in the drive
>>737675871>As you seem to think newer = better in all cases.incorrect. but it is genuinely retarded to think that nothing in 30 years has improved at all. >redditcope boogeyman because you desperately need some external reason to attempt to discredit me.>You also refuse to give any examples i've explained this and how it isnt necessary. additionally, there have already been many titles put forth as simply better fps games. >jaded towards older gamesim not jaded towards older games. i still play a lot of old favorites on the snes and genesis and ps1 and 2. im simply realistic that early 3d aged like milk. >but they were popular then!not an argument>people demanding these games either come back or be remadethere are two big reasons (besides basic nostalgia) that are very valid. 1 is that these games notably had technological limitations, so it would be cool to see what a less restricted version would be like. and 2 is that a lot of early entries are "clean". what i mean by that is how most franchises have this NEED to add new gimmicks to later titles (to "keep it fresh and avoid stagnation" or whatever). mario gets fludd, then gravity, then hat. link gets masks, then sailing, then wolf, then waggle. sonic gets bullshit friends, then team, then shadow with the gun, then a mess, then werehog, then wisps, then waggle. people want the "clean" gameplay without the dumb gimmicks. it could be nice to see. >games are stagnant because they arent innovating new novelties for me to be amazed bycry about it. there are plenty of high quality and fun things out there. hell theres plenty of mid stuff thats fun too. stop looking for something to hit the same wow factor as the old days and maybe you can learn to have fun again. >But since you were most likely not there.again with this stupid cope. i've seen the rise and fall of guitar hero and band games. i've seen the saturn & dreamcast flop. i've seen my friend have a shenmue meltdown. i've seen the arcades fizzle.
>>737676240>What if I told you I had both a PC and a N64, and loved both Quake and Goldeneye?Incomprehensible, you MUST pick a side REEEEEEEEEE!!!Same here, they're not comparable at all to me in how they play so if I'm in the mood for Quake I'll play that. Same thing for Goldeneye.
Goldeneye was THE game to play splitscreen in a dingy basement with shag carpet from the 70s while your friend's mom brings you pizza and orange crushplaying it by yourself is okay but there's plenty of better games for that
>>737655289>Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets?Nostalgia. Nothing more to it.
>>737655786halo is peak millenialcore, at best zoomies get cod
>>737676362>there are plenty of high quality and fun things out there. hell theres plenty of mid stuff thats fun tooYou won't list any though, plus no one needs to discredit you as you've proven yourself to be an outright moron.
Goldeneye did more for fps than halo
>>737655289>Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets?People who wrote the list played it when they were kids. Nothing more to it.
>>737675114>Half-Life is a movie.??????????????????????????
>>737676527>spoonfeed me, i havent played any new or fun games in 30 yearsif we're going to have an honest discussion, then we have to be honest with ourselves. these things are a given, but if you're too adamantly ignorant to recognize any of them, nothing i say is going to convince you. if thats your stance, then you just prove me right that the people propping up the n64 are just zealots, and critical thought doesnt matter.
>>737655786Halo was only four years after Goldeneye.
>>737655289As a whole the N64s library is WILDLY overrated because there was about 6 great games and 10 good ones in the entire consoles lifespan, it got utterly mogged by the PS1 for a reason. The kids who grew up with only an N64 massively overhype the handful of good games it got because they didn't have anything else.
>>737655786>The multiplayer was to millennials what Halo online was to Zoomers.Only a self-hating zoomer would make this mistake.
>>737676697You've dodged the other anon asking you to name some games and you've dodged me asking you to name games. You aren't even confident enough to stand by your own points, so what is the purpose of discussing shit with you?
>>737676905why not respond to another post that does name a game? your need to make it personal is quite telling. there are quite a few that name halo, and that has many entries in the franchise, and even one that mentions tf2 and call of duty. im surprised nobody has mentioned rainbow six, or any of the battle royale fps games like apex yet.
>>737666520Beautiful
>>737655289It's a good game, obviously.
Brace for foaming mouth.
>>737655289Because it WAS pretty much Half-Life but on console and one year earlier.
>>737655289A lot of millenials were children without PCs in 1996 and 007 was either the first or second FPS they ever played (First being Doom shareware version their dad installed on his home office computer). That's literally it. People who only had Nintendo 64s dickriding one of the few games the system had.t. 46 year old who rented Goldeneye once, hated it, and went back to playing Jedi Knight on my 486.
>>737655289The new blood goes into the game expecting to hate it but when they actually play it they sucked in. by the time they think about what they don't like they realized they actually just wasted a dozen hours and find themselves with the desire to try playing more.It terrifies them.
>>737655289cause its got all the iconic bond moments and sounds people liked the look and feel of spamming your ak or whatever and odd job / jaws i liked some of the other bond games the one with the grappling hook like you are spiderman or the remote mini tank you pilot
>>737676746this is how snoytards cope about the objectively best games ever made - none of which came to the ps. sad.
>>737677748trannies inventing things that never happened again
this youtuber named TREEthegamer tried to tell me that r6 siege mogs cs because cs "plays like goldeneye and has robotic movement". it was such a retarded take that i figured id share it with you guys.
>>737677865nobody gives a shit about retard opinions.
>>737677841t. nogames
>>737656103I had a N64 in college and the games we all played on it were Smash Brothers, Mario Kart 64, and Mace:The Dark Ages(brother bought it not me). Setting up IPX for LAN and sharing copies of Quake, Unreal, and Descent was trivially easy at the time. Half-life was the first shooter I remember playing that bothered to check for duplicate CD-keys before letting you connect to a match. People in dorms had an even easier time playing because they were on the college's T1 connection.
>>737655289excellent 4 screen multiplayer. Good maps. Extremely repayable single player.
>>737655289PC devs copied it, so your assumption is flawed.
>>737655786>The multiplayer was to millennials what Halo online was to Zoomers.Exactly this. Many of the early adopters of the OG Xbox were splitscreen 4-player Goldeneye bros who became adults, thought the gamecube was too lame and kiddy, and saw the potential of Halo systemlink parties.
>>737655289I blame western society for this.Single mom+ little Jimmy + N64 was way too common from my perspective back then, since practically all of my friends who owned this console lived only with their mother.Somehow, video games filled the void left by the absence of a dad, and that's why these people continue to praise these games after all these years. Growing up without a father figure generate behaviors like this.
>>737677804My parents got me a N64 when I hadn't even asked for a console that year because it was the cool new thing and he's right. Was very jealous when I visited my friend and he showed me Rival Schools, Soul Edge, and Front Mission 3.
>>737655289>he never played 4 player with his brother and neighbours across the roadyou missed out and now you are bitter and jealous
>>737658954Everything or nothing was good.
>>737663550Nintendo still gets those fans, nobody outside middle class America gives a shit about Super Smash Bros but it seems to be some kind of cult thing associated with conventions or something. it's why basedboys are always associated with Nintendo, it goes beyond the game
>parents get divorced>they try to convince anon it isnt his fault and get him an N64>theres only a handful of decent games>anon's friends come over for his birthday party and have a great time playing goldeneye and mario kart>core memory archived>later anon goes to friend's house and is blown away by how many fun games they have>start to feel defensive about mommy and daddy's present>its always there for him when mommy and daddy are fighting>and remember that awesome birthday party?>time moves on and nintendo has the gamecube>its all mom can afford on a single income>friends dont come to anon's house because it isnt as fun>anon goes over to friend's house and plays ps2 and xbox>the disparity of how far games have progressed is even greater>"hey guys, why dont we play some goldeneye?">"why would we play that crusty shit when we have halo right here?">anon is still stuck with shit at home>anon suffers from deep depression>anon's mom wonders where it all went wrong. didnt she give her son the best?>much like his parent's marriage, reality and reason divorce in anon's mind>"n64, you were always there for me. remember that birthday party? nothing will ever top that." he says to himself in his 30s as he white knights for his console waifu on a mongolian basket weaving forum. >surely the n64 with reciprocate his feelings one of these days
>>737655289Just nintendos delusion.TimeSplitters 1 and 2 were games created by the original developers of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.They used the exact same formula, but players weren't impressed since something better already existed years prior.Meanwhile, every 6th gen FPS game derivated from the Medal of Honor (PS1) and the Half Life (PC) formula.
>>737678873>nobody outside middle class America gives a shit about Super Smash BrosMaybe in your fantasy world. Spics and japs can't get enough of it.
>>737658647>Consider that for many people at the time they were playing super nintendo like 2 years ago if not until their birthday last week when they finally got their n64.This, it was like going from Goldeneye to Crisis
>>737660849>Goldeneye plays badly because uhhhhh it just does ok
>>737661471the answer is always nostalgia, if you have to ask then it's nostalgia
>>737666520lol this is so fucking retarded, he literally stares at the ground to improve framerate
>>737673819Everyone other game at the time was dogshit, lol
>>737679225>1998 was dogshitLOL
>>737679246Great year zoom zoom, why not make it your identity
Even Borderlands 1&2 are better FPS games.
>>737679054>crysisdamn zoomers lolEvery arcade in the mid 90s had House of the Dead. Duke Nukem 3D was huge.I just googled and found a fps game named Kileak released for psx in 1995Goldeneye was only impressive from the perspective of a kindergarten kid.
>>737678953>Medal of HonorIt's GoldenEye if every level was a hallway with a 10ft draw distance. The only thing derived from it was the WW2 shooter fad.
>>737679358>I just googled and found a fps game named Kileak released for psx in 1995That's crazy, I never heard of it and neither did you
>>737679085>can just run past dumb AI, get aim assist and shoot anything on sight, while movement being sloppyYeah thats not exactly its best quality
>>737678952this is probably pat of it, Christians and single mothers got Nintendo because it was the clean family friendly console compared to Playstation. when Xbox came out the War on Terror had started so now Halo was acceptably violent but by then basedboys had already had their childhood memories formed by Nintendo who didn't want to let go. Sega and Dreamcast kids on the other hand had parents who had them at 50 and got it because of the arcade machines so Sonic fans are autists.
>>737678953Nonsense argument, there are plenty of unique games that were not replicated that are great. It never tried to be the new fps standard, just tried to make a unique game that paid homage to 007.
>>737655289 Medal of Honor was better than Goldeneye
>>737679515play on agent difficulty
>>737679645>medal of honor>socom>rainbow six>call of dutyall way better than goldeneye
>>737679603The point is: TimeSplitters sucks and felt dated compared to Medal of Honor Frontline/Allied assault, Red Faction, Halo CE, Wolfenstein... proving that GoldenEye and Perfect Dark are shitty and irrelevant games at their core.
>>737663016Finally someone else that thinks what I think about this shit. I'm so sick of Mario 64 fans pretending that it has some revolutionary never again seen movement system in it. Sunshine and almost every other 3D platformer that came after it controls better simple as.
>>737679930GE and PD are just better games than TimeSplitters and all that faggot slop you listed.
>>737680082i mean... its not even really "thought" as much as it is observing and understanding basic facts.
>>737680098Buddy, TimeSplitters is the same game but with playable framerate
>>737663016>there is no need to dropkick when the dive exists.Invincible frames noob
>>737680082Sunshine is fucking aids, Mario has no acceleration, he doesn't build up momentum, he runs full speed at the slightest analog movement, spin jump just invalidates a moveset he already had, and they removed the long jump. and for what, a fucking jetpack in a platformer, which moves slow as fucking molasses. You have aids, you are a faggot.
>>737658372and this is evident when you play the online multiplayer, all the different romhacks that make use of all the moves at his disposal. what was once there just for advanced level play, can then be made mandatory. Shitshine aids havers could never.
>>737658954>xhe didn't play agent under fire or nightfire with friendsunlucky
>>737680468by that time we had Halo, which was the one to play
>>737680282>TimeSplitters is the same gameSo are the other games then, just with worse design. They were all made because of Goldeneye after all.
>>737680325tell me more about these invincible frames and what situations they (and the slide/drop kick) are useful in.
>>737680373>mario doesnt slide on the ground, running in place>they added a useful jump>WAAAAHHHHHH
>>737680421>just play this non-game stufflmao not an argument and you're really grasping at straws. you have to have a special kind of autism to genuinely think like this, holy shit lmao
>>737680894Do shitshine niggers really
It's sure as fuck better than modern shooters. I looked up that retarded Mouse game and the MC doesn't stop spouting Marvel quips.
>>737681295>i cant control the boat!>WAAAAHHHHHlmao holy shit. also, really smooth just moving to the next straw and ignoring getting called out
>>737673819loud middleclass american millenials
>>737678952>later anon goes to friend's house and is blown away by how many fun games they have>start to feel defensive about mommy and daddy's presentThat makes no sense.Anyone with an N64 would be asked if they have mario party first until roughly 03-04 on average.
>>737683817it makes perfect sense to feel insecure about something you care about that pales in comparison to others
4 player was fun but around the same time I was playing Halflife and then Counter Strike so it didnt impress graphically. You have played it 4 player right? You must have seeing as you made such a strongly convicted thread.
>>737683891I cut out the wrong part of your greentext.The defensive thing is a little weird on its own though but only because you are making a grand standing statement with goldeneye during a time when most people rented their games and stuck with a small core. if anything the kid with a lot of games was the faggot you didn't want to hang out with because he was That Guy making the whole experience unpleasant.
Millenials like to latch onto things. I don't get it either OP. I've finished the campaign and it was one big pile of shit. That fucking train section was the worst one of them all. The number of game breaking bugs was too many during my gameplay. Headshots didn't register, enemies could sometimes shoot through solid material (mostly on stair sections), unlimited respawning of enemies (mostly on the mission with the bunker or whatever), etc.. And don't get me started on the tank. Why would the developers give a tank erectile dysfunction for its cannon?
>>737684052>if anything the kid with a lot of games was the faggot you didn't want to hang out with because he was That Guy making the whole experience unpleasant.lmao no idea what sort of guy or experience you would be talking about. my friends had a whole bunch of games i didnt own, and it was great fun getting to play new things. sometimes co-op, sometimes taking turns, sometimes just watching and cheering on. but feeling defensive and insecure, when it was a special gift, makes sense. its the symbol of your parent's love. its the last thing they gave you before splitting. but then... theres all of this other good stuff.... mommy and daddy's love doesnt measure up.... so yeah anon gets defensive and insecure. it MUST be even better than previously thought! theres NO WAY it could fall short.
>FFX enters the chatheh... you think YOU'RE overrated slop? cute.
>>737658372So this is what mental illness looks like.I've never played a game with worse movement feeling, it's even worse than Dark Souls 2, you feel like you're moving through water all the time, the controls are unresponsive and slow and unprecise. Of course playing on the garbage original controller born from a deranged mind doesn't help.
>>737685259dont forget the slippery traction.
>>737658861>● Nintendo is the more popular platform = more fame and fansPlay Station was bigger at the time.Do you guys just make stuff up?
>>737685259*imprecise
>>737685374while you are correct, may i submit a potential counterpoint? the n64 had like 10 decent games, but the playstation had way more. perhaps the nintendo fans were more focused/funneled, while the playstation fans were more spread out across a wider variety of games. pure conjecture though.
>>737674283>>737674405>the console with the non retarded controller controlled like shit>the game where you move like you're in water controls better than any play station gameMental illness.
>>737683817I have literally never heard of mario party before 2 years ago when I got into retro Ninentdo consoles. I didn't even know it existed and I'm 37. When I was young, kids didn't want to play childish games, they wanted to play edgy adult games.
>>737685776>i havent heard of this decades long franchise with 13 games in itsorry you had no friends and didnt go to college, but the franchise is huge.
>>737678952kekPretty accurate. That's also how they ended up on 4chan.>>737680373I refuse to believe people like this are real.While I understand and appreciate the idea of purpose behind every movement at your disposal when designing a game, the movement in 64 is simply not pleasant. The game is barely playable with the original controller.
>>737667813>no (You)sDamn, even capcodes can't get you any replies. What happened?
>>737685875Never heard a single person in real life mention it, only in youtube videos, like Chase After the Right Price.I am European. When kids played multiplayer games, they played football games like Fifa first and PES afterwards, not Mario Party kek.
>>737686116>fifa crowdgrim. my condolences.
>>737655289You had to be there in the 90s.
>>737686248I'm trying to tell you that everyone played football games, it's was not a "crowd".Barely anyone here had a N64 and then a Gamecube. People only got back to Nintendo with the Wii. They had Game Boys, though. I remember going on school trips you could always count on someone having a Game Boy with Pokemon games and they would let you borrow it, usually it was girls kek.
>>737656054100% correct.The fact that PD still has a lot of stuff in it that has not been replicated in any modern FPSs speaks for itself.
>>737686402>a lot of stuff in it that has not been replicated in any modern FPSSuch as?
>>737662940Banjo-Tooie had a FPS multiplayer mode.
>>737655289wtf is wrong with his face?
>>737685149>mentions the last good main ff gamecute
>>737686401yes, im aware that the fifa crowd comprises most of europe. its truly a sad state of affairs.
>>737686645Better to play PES than Mario fucking Party. I would cut my wrists if I were forced to play that.
>>737686687sorry you cant enjoy simple games and silly competition.
>>737685510You guys are not looking at the bigger picture from the right perspective. You knew PS1 games outnumbered N64 games but you would never know how because you would only see a slice of those games at a time. i.e. If you wanted to play a real strategy game for the N64 then your only option was either biting the bullet and playing sports games, the RTS ports, or the one sole original Ogre Battle 64. For the PS1 virtually everything offered on the shelf was different flavors of RPG looking stuff, or the same RTS ports, or later on a large bent towards tactics stuff. heck, the real ogre battle itself would probably not show up at all because someone would buy it ASAP. So it never felt like the PS1 outstripped the N64 that much. You just never knew.
>>737686748it's not fun, why would I want to play a meaningless game like that when I could go out and play ping pong in real life at the park with my friend? Games need to hook you up and Nintendo games simply don't most of the time.never understood how people consider Nintendo the developer that makes fun games when it's literally the opposite.
>>737663313the only PS1 game that really holds up is SotN. People used to wank hard over spyro and crash but the remakes just forced them to reconcile with the fact that their memories of the game were this strange amalgam of the best parts of three titles in one experience with all of the flaws smoothed out, and in reality each individual title was a deeply flawed and unsatisfying experience filled with more hull than groat, sort of like Banjo Tooie.
>>737655289It's a prolonged psyop by tendies to act like this mediocre pile of dung was a reason to own a Gamecube. Plus, most tendies have been on a diet of bing bing wahoos their entire life, so a game where you can shoot people - as tame as the depiction is - seems like the most hardcore shit ever to them.
>>737658954>he didn't play 007 racing
>>737658954>>737660951>>737678613>>737680468>>737686989>these niggas never played From Russia with Love
Let me put this into perspective for you. PCfags were so desperate for goldeneye clones that to this very day they still praise Deus Ex and Thief.
>>737687095Thief, a Golden Eye clone? nah
>>737687095>tendie in charge of not being retarded
>>737685994Retard, like I said go and play the multiplayer addled PC port and figure it out for yourself. Sunshine is the one that's unpleasant. Sunshine is the one that's dogshit.
>>737686821thats what im saying. while the ps1 had more games and fans, the fan focus was more spread out. but since n64 was starved for options the concentration of fandom for any one thing is so much greater than any one ps1 thing, that it gets over represented.
>>737676809>xbox mountain dew halo bullshit is over a decade old now>it will never returnfuck....
>>737655873>tendies actually fucking believe this>with those controls and that atrocious fucking shootingjesus christ you make me embarrassed to own an n64
>>737686924Absolute retard.Medievil 1 and 2 hold up very well and so do plenty other games.
>>737687249I don't play mods.Also>play a different game!We're talking about 64 here.
>>737687154the devs disagree with you, they openly admit in multiple interviews that they straight up ripped the difficulty system and objective based gameplay from goldeneye.PCbabs would rather die than admit it but the entire imsim genre can basically be summarized as goldeneye clones as opposed to doomclones
It was a different time
>>737676525Nah COD is also a super-millennial thing. For Zoomers it's Fortnite. Have people just forgotten how to count?
>>737687275That only applies to the popular games, otherwise all other games show a trajectory from incomplete sales records which by your reasoning should mean that the PS1 games are over represented.https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/ps1-and-n64-software-and-hardware-sales-data-for-the-usa-1995-2003.3292/
>>737657584Lol fuck off and stop larping as someone who lived through the era, you fucking zoomer. You didn't know how revolutionary GoldenEye was when it got released. It was so impactful that when Valve devs played it, they went back and overhauled Half-Life's AI. And at an era where Doom and Quake were just pure shooters, GoldenEye was a pioneer in having objective-based gameplay for an FPS, something that Half-Life also did later.
>>737655289>>quake came out the year prior and is a better game>>half-life came out the next year and is better gamelol. lmao
>>737655583am i the only one who likes TWINE?
>>737686530if thats the best FF has to offer... yikes.
>>737690196fix your reading comprehension
>>737690435>a ffx fan telling me to fix my reading comprehension>a ffx fan>who thinks ffx is goodPAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAguys... yuna is marrying the antagonist because... she just is?? OKAY!go watch your anime. leave the adult stuff to the adults, kid
>>737690890go back
>>737679175>he literally stares at the ground to improve framerateHe's just like me frfr
>>737690929>i have no counter argument.... g-g-g-go back!!
>>737661471cuz it do be
>>737661471Finished it for the first time yesterday. It lives up to the hype.
>>737691269Are you gonna play Majoras Mask?
>>737689897I think the game is better than Goldeneye (except for the music)>actual objectives using gadgets>voice acting>not all NPCs are just a target>environment look more realistic>multiplayer has enemy bots>guns have alternative fire modes
>>737691113you sound mad
If "N64 derangement syndrome" is anything, it's the endless assertion that every game on the N64 was either bad, over rated, or didn't count for some reason.It's very clear where this comes from, because I enjoyed N64, Playstation, and PC games when I was a child (and if anything I veered slightly toward N64 as my preference), but people who didn't have an N64 are always mad as fuck about it. >Nooooo! Quake was better! I played it, and it was brown and boring. Goldeneye had pizzazz, man. It had vibes and interest factor. It wasn't more labyrinthine keycard slop, set in endless nonsensical techo-fortresses.
>>737671052okay the last part makes me wanna play it now. any game where i can kill ziggers is based
>>737692446yeah I am mad. I got told FFX was kino when its anime tier SLOP lmao
>>737686893"Mario Party" was like having Nintendo-themed "Monopoly board game" that did all its setting for you AND gave you 30+ different mini-games to prove your practiced skills against friends (or programs) in order to succeed.>I hated itThere was no "it." There were something like 5 different maps, 30 different games and plenty of immutable randomness that would inherently change your "it" playtime into "different" even when you focused on playing exactly the same every time.For example:>you rolled a 4vs>you rolled a 1Oh look! Even rolling dice provided different results!!!Let's claim "tangentially," but, can you give me your opinion on whether you play media regarding soccer, are you playing "it" or are you playing "them?"
>>737691353yeah, down the line. why, lad?
>>737693392oh okay
>>737685374>>737685510>>737686821>>737687275>>737688187Here's another method for you to understand perspective about "more" and "top" and "best" and whatnot in console-warring opinion topics:You're going out for dinner.You MUST choose eating dinner at a buffet!You have two choices:>Eat at a buffet restaurant, serving breakfast meals, lunch meals, supper meals, foreign dishes, different drinks, desserts of all kinds. It's all-you-can-eat. Something like 50 different choices of dish/flavor.>Eat at a Baskin-Robbins, serving milk iced cream, soft ice cream, lactose-free ice cream, holiday specials, popsicles and soda. It's all-you-can-eat. Something like 50 different choices of flavors/style.Is one better than the other?It it possible 1 of the 50 choices is better than 1 of the other 50 choices?
>>737655289You had to be there.
>>737693412I hate boardgames, always thougt they were stupid. people only play them because they have nothing better to do. For example, they can't hold an interesting conversation because they have nothing to say.
>>737694438>I hate your hobbies, always thougt they were stupid. people only participate in them because they have nothing better to do. For example, they can't hold an interesting conversation because they have nothing to say.Yeah!Just like football, or skiing, or knitting, or bird watching! Fucking LOSERS who won't speak to me about the topics I want to talk about using the most erudite and praising speeches!ANYBODY who likes "not giving me interesting conversation" is a loser with NO VALUE!By the same token, I hate fashion stores, and restaurants, and furniture marts, and florists, and sports games, and movies, and car dealerships, and... hey? Where are you going? Listen to me!
>>737655289Babby's first FPS and babby's first multiplayer game. Yes, it's entirely a Nintendo kjd thing.
>>737695226You go out with people to interact with each other. It's a dinner or whatever, if it was a board game night I wouldn't have showed up.
>>737695458>You go out with people to interact with each other. >if it was a board game night I wouldn't go out.I wonder, are you so naive that you believe the year 2026 is the only time-period in history?Or, are you a narcissist who refuses to engage in anything except self-worship?Guess what! You don't sound very interesting or friendly!
>>737655289Don't worry it'll get bumped off the list and topped by minecraft and fortnite in a decade or two
>>737655532Fpbp
>>737695393Doom was everyone's first FPS, because it was effectively free, and ran on your parents' computer.You very much out yourself as not being alive in the 90's, when you say things like this.
>>737656054This is true if not for the fact you have to play as Joanna and not a dude. Other than that it’s the best shooting game ever tied with quake and unreal tournament
>>737671141Even with its standard levels (which everyone agrees are subpar, or sometimes, awful), Doom is still INFINITELY more complex than Goldeneye.Try playing Doom on Nightmare."But... but... that difficulty setting is a joke!", yeah, but good players have proven it's totally doable, to the point where many of them find a good portion of the original levels relatively easy even on Nightmare. Goldeneye really has nothing going for it. Play the game with a mouse and keyboard. It's literally an FPS for babies. Honestly, I'm not trying to be hostile toward you, but anyone who doesn't realize this probably doesn't have much experience with the genre.
>>737698210Who the fuck still plays regular ass vanilla Doom?It enjoys such a long life, specifically because it's so mod friendly. Barely anyone is playing it these days, without at least some engine tweaks. I've spent more time over the years playing Sonic Robo Blast 2 (which is technically Doom) than I have real ass Doom. I fire up classic Doom ever few years, beat the first episode, and get bored.
>>737655289It was a good game but perfect dark did everything better.
>>737686893you're german aren't you?
>>737674867Did it last year, was worth it because I didn’t even remember half the stages. Wasn’t nearly as difficult as playing with a controller of course.
>>737698210doom doesn't even have a vertical aiming axis
>>737698341First, there are people playing the vanilla Doom, just as there are people playing Goldeneye on the N64 at 16 frames per second.But I'm not talking about popularity here. I'm saying that Goldeneye, despite being a satisfying game to play, lacks depth. You know that concept of "emergent gameplay", where complex situations arise from the interaction of simple rules? That's almost nonexistent in Goldeneye.In Perfect Dark, which has a bit more mechanics and slightly more complex levels, this can happen here and there. For example, if you run out of ammo in the first level, you can sneak up behind a villain, steal his gun, and use it to defend yourself against the others who were chasing you. These situations aren't that frequent, but at least they're extra possibilities that arise from a N64 game that's a little deeper. Goldeneye has practically none of that. It's as simplistic as an FPS can be.
>>737687743Are we talking about early or late zoomers? People born in 1997-2003 loved Black Ops 2.
nostalgiafags are just retards. i grew up with this game and have nothing but amazing memories playing it with friends and family, it's something we always came back to also well into the next 2 generations at leasthowever i also was a pcfag that played real fps so i know the game itself is jank shit and carried hard by sovl and memories of a better time with better people
>>737686107I was shy...I'm also surprised btw
>>737698897That one example you gave of "no gun" in a shooter, your claim of Goldeneye "has practically none of that" is blatantly wrong. You have a "chop" function with both disarms, and kills, enemied. There's an entire multiplayer mode designed for it.And Goldeneye has far more than just "guns" as well never mind ALL KINDS of guns, especially the SNIPER RIFLE which was INNOVATIVE AS FUCK; it had grenade launchers and rocket launchers and tanks and knives and throwing knives and watch lasers and proximity mines and remote mines. It required you to take photographs of specific targets from specific angles. It required you to be faster and faster. There were alarms that would go off if you were caught in security cameras or if security staff reached their wall-mounted alarm.There was ALL KINDS of "depth" in Goldeneye. And that's just mentioning the gameplay! There was all kinds of "satiety" when it came to missions on each of the 30+ levels in the game; ranging from Agent to 007, the tasks increase, your time limits decrease, there are more enemies who live longer and fire with better accuracy...And that's from a Nintendo 64 game in 1997! Most shooter TODAY have LESS "depth" than that!!You sound like the time of man who's seen a picture of "Dam" using a rifle and think>that's all???
>>737686107that's fascinating actually
>>737656054The levels aren't as good and the lack of Bond theme hurts it, also it's kinda woke
>>737689897Played it on the 64, thought it blew GE out of the waterHaven't played enough PD to make a comparison there though
>>737655289>Can somebody please explain the worship this game gets?People who had a N64 when they were 7-8 years old have happy memories about playing it on the couch with their friends and cling onto those happy memories. Objectively Goldeneye aged like rotten dogshit and is a 0/10 game now. But they're not ranking the game. They're ranking their childhood.
>>737700236he's just a doomfag who thinks circle strafing slightly different combinations of enemies is more interesting than anything exclusive to le purple console with le 3-pronged controller for le children
>>737655289>What is it? Is it just an N64 owner thing, where they latched onto it as some god-tier title because they couldn't play Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy 7?Pretty much.The N64's library was so small any mediocre game had a chance of being the best in its category.And Nintedies would rather die than acknowledging other systems (be it PS1 or PC) could have anything better.
>>737655289It was lots of people's first FPS but anyone who thinks it's good now is just retarded.
>>737655289Nostalgia-fags were ridiculed for a reason anon. Its just nostalgia. Although goldeneye is still a great game in certain regards. Great gameplay, very very poor level design.
>>737695915>I wonder, are you so naive that you believe the year 2026 is the only time-period in history?What does this have to do with what was said?You sound like a normalfag. I can engage people with small talk and whatever, it just doesn't feel interesting to me, it's not mentally stimulating.
>>737698379I'm Italian.Nintendo games are very childish and have very simple concepts, they're underdeveloped and not mentally stimulating. They're not very dissimilar from Marvel movies.
>>737692979Yeah, I like that GE wasn't another Doom/Quake rehash. It's extra impressive that the staff were mostly noobs to game dev. Anyone denying its qualities is just a faggot fanboy.
>>737704637Based spaghettibro.
>>737698897>Goldeneye lacks depthkek
The problem with "legacy" games is that they are not good anymore, but are historical and so people are obligated to put old games that invented a genre in top 10s like Super Mario 64,Diablo 2, Goldeneye, Doom, Warcraft 3, when they were all surpassed by newer games.
>>737685994>I refuse to believe people like this are real.because you're retarded
>>737699076>1997-2003 More like 1997-2000. There is nothing "early" about 2003 when they are zoomies who graduated during COVID and went to school with people born after them.
>>737704852No, because the movement is dogshit, especially with the retarded controller. Are we supposed to pretend the N64 controller is good? You cannot move precisely in the game, it takes an insane level of effort to do so for no reason at all.
Incredible to be wrong about everything. 'grats
>>737704637"nintendo games are marvelslop" is an interesting assertion coming from someone whose favourite genre is the most marvelslop sport of all
>>737688278>Valve devs played it, they went back and overhauled Half-Life's AII wish they overhauled the animations instead because Half-Life enemy hit reactions make Golden Eye look like Max Payne 3.
>>737705028What's wrong with it?>You cannot move precisely in the gameYou can move more precisely than with any other controller because of the internal stick design. F-Zero X feels like complete shit on any other controller. You've had 30 years to stop getting filtered by this thing.
>>737705118I don't even watch football anymore because1. It's a waste of time, it has zero repercussions on my life.2. I hated the preachiness and propaganda.But I think it's the greatest sport to watch, nothing comes close to the spectacle of good football.It was dumb fun with the lads back in the day, I wouldn't waste time playing it today. Certainly more engaging than videogames for toddlers.
>>737688278I saw a video interview where a HL dev said GE inspired the exploratory level design, or something like that. Wish I could find it.
>>737705382It's slow and it's unresponsive. It feels like you're moving underwater and it lags.I've only got it last year so I have no nostalgia, I wanted to like it but it's almost impossible to play. I don't know if my stick is broken or what but it seems barely playable.
Has anyone without nostalgia goggles tried to play through GoldenEye and thought 'damn, this is actually pretty good'? As someone who grew up with PC shooters I can have some fun for an episodes worth of Doom, Quake, Duke3D or Blood, but I will be the first to admit that the labyrinthine, key-based, press-a-switch-and-try-to-find-the-door-it-opened-on-the-other-side-of-the-map, often samey or even theme-less levels take a lot of patience and understanding. From a modern playability perspective, I don't think the games got very good until the Half-Life/Deus Ex/No One Lives Forever generation, which introduced story elements and a stronger continuity throughout the campaign.I've been curious about GoldenEye, which I only played a couple of times in multiplayer back in the day, but N64 games are usually a bit of a pain to set up for emulation due to the retarded controller, nevermind an FPS one, is it worth it?
>>737705613I first played it two years ago and I thought it was great. Levels and objectives have good variety. The guns feel good to shoot. The music is nice. It's challenging and replayable. Anyone shitting themselves over the controller can just emulate and use a mouse injector.
>>737705613it's worth itthe game is definitely a product of its time especially in terms of controls, and certain types of people mostly quake/doomfags will take great personal offense to its autoaim, but it's very good and its mission design and almost systems-game tier mechanics still kinda hold up even todayperfect dark is better but both are good
>>737705894Doom has autoaim though. Why would I ever take offense to it?
>>737705592Works on my machine.
>>737703536Cope about the greatest console of all time, snoy
>>737706236Sure, I bet Dark Souls 2 movement also happens to work on your machine.
>>737706261I was a PC/Gameboy player back then so, lol.Nintendies' persecution complex with sony is on par with jeets and pakistani.
>>737706149because you're based and not an unhinged autist
>>737706323NTA but PC has mods for that.So yes. Work on my machine.
>>737706449I don't play modded games. If you mod a game you might as well play a different game.
>>737706630Well, yeah. I play a better game. That's kinda the point.
>>737706149Niggas a Hazbintroon
>>737706674No, you're playing something inauthentic. I don't like it. Play something else instead or accept the game as it is.
>>737706630Based vanilla experience enjoyer.
>>737655289Quake is not better, golden eye has way better gun play, enemy hit reaction, secrets missions, pacing, varied missions, quake is another boomerslop shooter
>>737700236Nigga those tanks sucked dick and all the weapons you acquired required you to scroll through all of them one by one. The missions themselves were also laughable at times. Spawning unlimited enemies is not depth nor is starting out with a whole bunch of them right in front of you (train section). Gay ass game. Perfect dark was way better
>>737705845>>737705894Thanks, guess I'll try to give it a chance at some point. I have no idea how the N64 controller was utilized for the game, I hope if you take the time to set up the emulation and in-game controls, it's possible to achieve a modern/standard twin-stick FPS layout.
>>737707965goldeneye was so cool that it had dual-controller layout options so you could use two sticks, one controller in each handit was harebrained as fuck and kind of buggy but also really cooloriginally it was left stick for forward/back and turning, and c-buttons for strafing and looking up and downyou'll be fine
