>>737662675
Buy an ad

already beat it, just waiting for the full release now.
there's really not much to talk about until then.

>>737662675
People are struggling with this golem more than I expected people really got comfortable with their dodge extender

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They should've called it "Endless Io".

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Fuck, just got chills from this starting screen. This game is so good.

>>737664245
endless nakadashi

How much did you carry your team today?

no one uses summons

>>737666315
the keybinds to use them on mouse and keyboard are complete nonsense.

I'll give it a go tonight.

>>737662675
RELEASE IT ALREADY I CAN BARELY WAIT MUCH LONGER

>>737662675
Never played a game in this series. Anyone hosting a co-op session? I'll join in.

>>737662675
>theres an open beta
with only four basic fucking quests and not even the full base game roster of characters

I don't even know the genre and is this a sequel or expansion?
Do I need to play the first one?

>>737668678
expansion so you probably have to play the main story
action game with a focus on engaging boss fights

>>737666315
They take too long to summon and they have a really basic movement set. Hope others have more than 2 attacks.

meh I love the game but I already have a lot to relearn so I'm just gonna wait until it actually comes out and start playing again a week ahead of time . have fun bros

>>737662675
galanza isn't on it so I don't really care, waiting for release

>>737662675
I beat the red golem. Not much to do after that, I rather wait for the full release so I can use my sigils.

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IF YOU AINT PLAYING AS OLD NINJA PIMP MASTA YODA, YOU AINT PLAYING RELINK RIGHT

>>737662675
It didn't even register that this was an open beta and not a closed one, I could have been playing all yesterday. I've failed you, captain...

is this gachaslop?

>>737669126
Same for me. I barely remember how to play

>>737662675
the main cast is the most boring uninteresting main cast in any game I've ever played...

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>less is more ghandagoza
>mfw link time

>>737670084
No its a complete game. With a DLC

>>737670208
That's unironically what I like about it, just feels like a bunch of relatively normal people from a fantasy world going on a quest. I miss that sort of setting so I'm glad there's still some franchises keeping it alive.

>>737669692
only seen 1 of you guys so far

>>737662675
i hope they buff the seven star characters and nerf the absolute fuck out of basic blocking being able to tank everything at no cost

>>737664651
grub rising has a cool starting screen too

>>737671182
>normal people from a fantasy world going on a quest
I miss this.

>>737671995
how so? Is it because they don't have terminus weapon? I haven't played the game since like 1.1

>>737675687
sorry they are "eternals", had to look it up
it's been a couple years since i last played and i've forgotten much of the combo mechanics but iirc both of them have comparatively low dps with seofon in particular having an almost-useless ability in seven-star brilliance

i remember so little though that i'm probably spouting complete shit, but it was to do with their dps

granted this was by necessity being compared to powerhouses like the tiny paladin chick and sandy

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Are all Bea players bad? Been in the beta for a few hours and haven’t seen a single decent Beatrix player.
Is she weak or something?

>>737676326
i tried her for a bit and think she sucks.
she probably needs some character-specific sigils to feel good to play.

>>737674547
Mainly I just want that sort of anime low fantasy world and aesthetics like Log Horizon, SAO, Ys, etc back, but the character dynamic of regular people being the focus is even rarer than that sadly. I'm really hoping that new SAO game sticks mostly to being just about your OC background character & their generic adventuring party going through the death game scenario so I can pretend it's just a normal world.

>>737676326
Beatrix is one of the strongest characters in GBVS patch after patch and there Bea players are among the most retarded online. So even if she’s good here, the answer would still be yes

>>737676326
Bea and naru mains are too busy gooning to play

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>>737662675
it's uh not that fun. maybe it is with friends or the characters have a more complete toolset in the actual game but what was there did not inspire confidence.

I liked Zeta's pogos and it's cool that all those moves are from the fightan game (and I'm assuming the gacha). how does she differ with a decked out... build or fully leveled up or whatever you call it in the full game?

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>>737676326
i tried her out i think shes pretty good. i think its just another narmaya situation where shitters just pick the hot girl character, also shes the newest character so that would double the people playing her so youre bound to just get shitters.

Did everything solo then beat the golem a few times with randoms. Of course I only used Io. I was in parties with all Bea and one Charlotta one time.

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I tried playing a bit, but that skeleton boss took me forever to beat. I know I wasn't using the partner characters, I wanted to play alone to learn the boss and my own character's moveset.
Is the rest of the game like this? Do you need a full party for everything or can you do just fine with 1 character and this is just a "monster hunter demo" kind of thing where things are extra difficult and don't reflect the full game?

>>737677330
nah the game get way more difficult the demo/beta doesnt show anything off but they are nerfing some base version quest since people got walled off

>>737676326
you cant mash your way to a win you need to kinda know what the character functions

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>>737676936
In the full game there are skill trees and character exclusive sigils that either gives QoL, passively makes your big move does more damage, or lets you do the big move more often.
However in Zeta's case her playstyle in the beta is pretty much what you would do in the end game. Keep her unique debuff up and land as many arvess' hammer as possible (the combo finisher after you get blue lights on your pogo).

How do you guys even play this? I tried Relink with mods for the censorship, but the localization sent me up the wall. And I literally have never studied Japanese, just watched a lot of anime and I quickly realized that text was not matching up with the voices.

>>737677330
Soloing anything is better during endgame when youre not Lv10 with little to no equipment from the beta. youre not forced to of course but i believe the game is mostly designed towards a full party.

>>737677582
cygames is known for their dogshit translations but i think for this game the text is more for the english dub

Just bought the base game.
Which character is the strongest for solo play so I can catch up fast?

>>737677719
charlotta or sandalphon, your choice

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>>737677330
This game is focused much more around team play than monster hunter, whether with CPU teammate or real players through matchmaking. Compared to monster hunter, this game puts a ton of emphasis onto your character's combos rather than the boss. For example if your mind is 20% on your character's combos and 80% on the monster in MH, in Relink it will be 80% on your rotations and 20% on the boss.

In the actual game you may do a couple solo runs just to learn the moves but there are multitudes of mechanics that are pretty much team only. Some side goals are also impossible to do solo, which makes loot farming a lot less efficient. And loot farming will be like 90% of what you will be doing after you beat the story

>>737677719
I'd honestly say you could wait until the expansion comes out to play the multiplayer. They'll introduce crossplay and they'll put it on the Switch 2, so you'll have plenty of people to play with for the whole game up go the expansion content

You DID get War Elemental right?

>>737678009
yeah, of course

through cheats

if you actually wasted time grinding for that ludicrously low drop chance... well, do as you like, because come to think of it there's no way you're passing on those retard genes

>>737677567
That's like the last thing I want to see for her since it's already easy enough to do... maybe if I feel like it I can try out the other characters I guess. An epiphany I got by the time I finished playing it was that maybe I shouldn't have looked at is as a pure action game than what it actually is, Dragalia Lost 2.

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I have no idea if she's good or not, but her animations and attack effects are extremely satisfying so I'm now a devoted Beatrix man.

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>>737678009
i don't remember what that is but i apparently took this screenshot at some point so i guess so

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>>737677719
The biggest boost to your character's power aside from sigils are the terminus weapons. It drops from the giga-ultra-final-this-time-for-real version of bahamut which unlocks after you've done like 80% of the things in the game. However the drop rate is 20% and this single drop will be further rolled between all characters (there are 19 terminus weapons). So to actually get the terminus weapon for your main it could mean a couple hundred clears of this quest.

So essentially the time you took to clear the story / pick a main / unlock all the quests that lead to proto baha pretty much doesn't matter compared to this massive time sink.

My advice is to either play a post-launch character (Seofon, Tweyen, and Sandalphon) that doesn't rely on the terminus weapon or play whichever character the first terminus weapon you got belongs to.

>>737678494
>80% of the things in the game.
There's like three fights after him iirc, one of them is weaker than Proto and the other two are the same person.

>>737678596
the other two may be the same person but one of those fights is so difficult it's practically a case of jekyll and hyde

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Is there any point to buying the base game or should I just wait for this DLC? I had a lot of fun with this open beta!

>>737678374
We won't know until we actually see skill trees and her other moves and shit
I can't even tell what her buffs besides the health regen do

>>737678658
There's a decent length singleplayer story before the full multiplayer opens up. So you might wanna play that at some point if you wanna catch up, but its not like its going anywhere either. Not sure how active the online is right now.

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>>737678697
I'll probably wait then, thanks!

>>737678635
I'm just saying that you'll be done with 99% of things in the game by that point and only farming the weapons to beat those two bosses.

>>737678374
I wish we can actually extend the delta clock within the devourer mode either through a character sigil or mastery. It will make the clock mechanic way more interesting. Currently her kit is a little too simple imo

>>737678494
You can increase the chance of getting the weapon for the character you want if you do not unlock extra characters. The terminus weapons will only drop for unlocked characters. Or you could cheat engine

>>737678658
consider that the reason we're all here and super hyped is because we loved the base game

it is (mostly) magical - the story, whilst a fairly generic jrpg, was executed perfectly, with fantastic cinematography, great art, great fights, and very little filler content

the end-game bossing content is REALLY good - they're the best kind of bosses, which force you to use every system the game has comprehensively, with patterns that are tight enough to demand skill and observation BUT still respect player times

the biggest two letdowns this game has are the midgame content (post-story, pre-endgame) which is pretty much just the same handful of bosses repeated ad nauseum, just slightly harder each time, and the demand for grinding. cygames apparently forgot this wasn't a gacha game and expect you to grind for hundreds of hours for mandatory sigils.

fortunately you can just cheat them with freely available cheat engine tables and save yourself the abysmal drop rates, unless you actually like fighting behemoth a few hundred times per character

>>737678861
yeah pretty much
i get the feeling lucy's second form is like the "bragging rights" version of the fight anyway
i never managed to complete it before finally burning out on the game, although it was a hell of a lot of fun trying

>>737678494
terminus drops from regular proto-baha

>>737662675
Do I play with controller or KB + mouse?

>>737678673
>I can't even tell what her buffs besides the health regen do
Health is obvious. Attack is effectively Supplementary Damage, though I'm not sure if it counts as the regular effect or how well it scales. Defense I think is maybe free Stout Heart, but that's the hardest to tell. Also why is this golem on crack cocaine?

>>737678919
>extend the delta clock within the devourer mode
Like extend the duration? That kinda defeats the purpose of it being a temporary Sandalphon/Id type of boost form, but there'll probably be something that makes it more worthwhile to rotate between the directions actively.

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will cog be overpowered again?

>>737679279
controller

does narmaya have some kind of innate parry mechanic if you time your charged attack?

>>737679594
>That kinda defeats the purpose of it being a temporary Sandalphon/Id type of boost form
Hmm maybe. I want Beatrix to play differently though, doing various things to extend a forever ticking down clock feels fun. I just feel like her base form is way too bland I don't wanna spend any time in it if possible

i see granblue fans being hyped about the world raid being teased is it really that cool

>>737679279
definitely controller

>>737679612
unfortunately, probably not

I like Ninja Gaiden, which character should I use in this?

>>737680253
narmaya

couldn't get this to work with a ps5 controller so I don't give a fuck

>>737680351
isn't she a stance character? I want a character that can zoom all over the stage and run laps around the bosses

>>737680139
Her base form is mostly just set up + dodging with slow basic attacks, so I get why some people might not like it. From what I've played so far she's basically a mix between Sandalphon and Our Beloved Captain with every single skill leading into a combo finisher, so in theory with better sigils and more dodges available you'll be able to earn her meter a lot faster and more often than Sandalphon. Hopefully it'll be like how Io starts as a slow caster and ends the game as machine gun tactical nuke.

>>737680192
The song and theme are good. The raid itself was meh. Hyped to see which arcarum character they give us.

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did they ever fix large punching man

>>737680581
Him and rosetta are still bottom of the barrel. DLC might fix them with supposed reworks.

>>737676326
She really lends herself well to just going ungabunga in hyper mode . You get so many iframes in the hyper mode that you tend to beef it and die a lot for two reasons

1) because you have so many iframes while going gorilla you get really greedy and the boss gets you in the small window you have that you aren't invincible.

2) you basically have 0 defensive tools and outside of skill use you are pretty animation locked in your basic combo.

So in short it's almost that she's too strong at times with her defensive profile but the weaknesses she does have are massive which gets mediocre players punished hard.

>>737662675
i reinstalled the base game to fuck around with characters since I never fought the new stuff they added

How far into the game is Versa? I stopped playing at the "end" credits. Am I at least halfway done?

>>737681350
What like you just finished the story? Maybe about a third, depends on how autismo you want your grind to be. Probably longer if you actually build a full NPC party instead of multi or just stacking Eugen for the CPU to use and playing whoever yourself.

>>737681350
Versa is the final boss of the story, anon.

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Playing Io without quick charge sigils feels miserable

>>737682017
It's a small price to pay for being the cutest and not having to develop carpal tunnel.

>>737681473
That's like telling someone Shagaru was the final boss of MH4

>>737681350
It ends then you need to do like 5 missions for ID. then you need to do like 12 extreme raids before you unlock the proud raids.

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They need to make mom the post release superboss since they are already adding Id to Versus

Post gameplay.
Or is it just gooner shit?

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>>737682401
this is not the gachaslop you are looking for

>>737682295
No, it's like telling someone that's looking for the Shaguru Magala fight that it's the final boss of the village story and they probably already saw him since they remember the ending credits.

>>737682401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr5lZH5IcGM

>>737680581
unless you're in link time, he sucks

I hope the normal fights in the expansion don't just blow up in 30 seconds if you did most of the postgame

i want support abilities to be good

>>737682975
The midget swordsman's team afterimage is good

>>737682869
They won't lol they were teasing a level above chaos tier quest

any way to get L2 as your dodge button?
switching both triggers in steam input just results in both of them being pressed every time

any chance it's getting more female draphs?

>>737676326
Both. She’s weak and the players are trash, so it’s a disaster combo. If a Bea shows up in my party, I just dip immediately.

Why should I care about a beta to some gacha game?

>>737687730
its an action jrpg not a gacha

>>737687536
People said the same about Io at launch...

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>>737680253
Make sure you have Tweyen in your party to hear best girl's voice

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It's fun but I'm waiting for a character I like the design of to be playable in one of these games before I pick it up.
Also I keep getting connection errors every other time I tried to connect to matchmaking

Unfortunately a gacha game dev can't make a good monhun clone as proven by the base game.
Let's hope the collapse of monhun will lit the patriotic spirit of jap devs and make a proper monhun game instead of failed gacha games.
Oh and before I forget...
Death to all gachafags especially the one turd colored from SEA region!

>>737689613
What kind of design do you like? Do you have someone in mind from the original browser game or versus rising?

>>737690474
Luckily for us, it’s not even trying to be a monhun clone, so you can relax.

>>737690474
>Unfortunately no game dev can't make a good monhun clone as proven by 90% of clones
ftfy

>>737691067
Making a game thats nothing but boss fights is hard when most devs can't make good bosses at all
Hell MH1 doesn't have a single monster anyone actually likes to fight besides maybe Diablos

>>737676326
it's a new character, nobody knows how to use her well yet

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>>737671872
I've seen a few, including me.

>>737691228
je suis monte

>>737691228
we should make a dream team to finally get that s++. At this point I think only Ios and Yodarhas can make that possible

>>737691414
A dream team where players actually equip sigils and dmg weapons.

>>737662675
This is that rpg one right. Is it any good?

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>>737691593
It's alright.

i have completely forgotten how to play it

>>737692118
Took me like a fight and a half of the demo to remember

>>737692118
There's a tutorial in the beta for basic controls. Character specific stuff will come back to you in an instant

>>737690509
Black Knight/White Knight or Magisa
Though I remember that there was a game only boss fight Harvin, if she's playable in the expansion I'll go for it

>>737692624
>if she's playable in the expansion I'll go for it
Magielle and Gallanza are gonna be playable in the expansion

>>737692018
Just looked up gameplay, why are half of all gameplay videos VN sections. I thought this was some big open world jrpg

>>737692741
Cool, thanks

>>737692804
It's mission based not open world

>>737692804
Maybe you're confusing it with the turn based browser game?
Relink is the action one. It has a main story with proper custscenes and it does have VN style character substories.

>>737692837
This is what they were working on for like 10 years? A mission based boss rush VN? Thats what im finding it is.

>>737662675
fool me once

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Is Io still good? i loved playing her in the base game

>>737693087
Yeah that one, i thought it was some big open world game with how long it was in development

>>737662675
>open beta for shitty dlc of dead mid game that's been out for a year
who actually cares except china?

all the anons in here

I like Relink because it lets me play FF14 but without having to deal with the lobotomized retards in Party Finder. Also cute girls and top tier graphics

>>737693365
>without having to deal with the lobotomized retards in Party Finder
wait until lucilious

>>737662872
retard

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>>737662675
Is this gachabait garbage or an actual game

>>737693548
monster hunter clone with a proper story campaign before you hit endgame and do the usual grind

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>>737693634
Does the grind involve or encourage the player to purchase anything with real money to ease/skip the grind or not miss on content?

>>737693785
i wish it did

>>737693785
It's a real game. It has the usual "fork over more money if you're a retard" item packs of shit you can get in-game but it doesn't mean anything because it's all overpriced shit for retards.

Taking advantage of retards who are willing to spend $30 to get some shit that doesn't mean anything is exactly how games should be monetized.

>>737693785
no not at all

>>737693785
The dlc emote packs and cute. They are the only thing you cant get in game.

>>737693984
Monster Hunter doesn't have gameplay skip / resource MTX.
That's a ginormous red flag, bud.

>>737693785
anything they put in the dlc section of the steam page you can just get it through creamAPI if you really want it

>>737693785
You can grind everything for free but some emote.
There are endgame sigils and characters (3) that you can buy but they are almost worthless to a new player, you just skip the mild grind by buying them.

>>737694103
Okay you're just a fucking moron got it move along to your next thread.

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>>737694103
>Monster Hunter doesn't have gameplay skip / resource MTX.
lol. lmao even

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>>737693785
Not really since you can do AFK grind for mats.
As for in game trophies however...it's hell grind only. Completely optional tho.

>>737694103
Well it's a ginormous step down for monhun because monhun used to always have them unlockable in-game through downloadable quests and such.
In this case it is a ginormous step up for cygames because they are a first and foremost mobile game company. Yet all of their dlcs amounts to like a 5 hour full assist afk farming session

>>737694350
>In this case it is a ginormous step up for cygames because they are a first and foremost mobile game company
I'm the customer, why the fuck should I care. You say some dumb shit.

>>737693234
We have to wait for July to see what updates changes what but she will probably still be really good.

>>737694493
You're retarded.

>>737693251
It's not open world and it's better that way.

stop falling for bait you retards. lets go back to discussing the game
im claiming maglielle before any of you. I've been waiting for her to be playable since the first time you fight her. im also really excited for the bubs fight since hes probably my favorite grub character
imo they really hit the spot with the post launch content of this game. might and magic and zathba are amazing missions, they actually make you play more carefully instead of facetanking the boss for 2 minutes since you have potion hoarder 15 and auto revive. they sould lean more into that on the expac, just gauntlets of bosses or more raids like lucilius. the only thing i dont enjoy are the plethora of ohko attacks endgame content has

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>>737695834
Behemoth is my favorite fight it gave me an addiction to perfect guard, so much so that I made a loadout with provoke and precise wrath specifically for this fight.

>>737692118
>I forgot how to mash 1 button which is the gameplay of all but 2 characters
The Relink audience. Cygames will make the game play itself like one big livestream soon.

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>>737696742
Hate to break it to you but this isn't your average one button masher (complete with character swap) 3D mobile game.

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>CPU too retarded to do double dragon quest
raised their power level to over 15k for nothing. these retards just cant stop dying.

>>737694539
>Say inhumanly retarded shit
>Get called out for it
>Can't produce a single argument
>"no.......u"
Single digit IQ.

>guts now has up to 3 charges
I wonder what else they changed.

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>>737697035
The CPUs always perfect dodge attacks so you can build them around this. I believe the traits you want for them are nimble onslaught (greater invuln window) and improved dodge (more dodges).

>>737697491
I forgot how it was before. Isn't that a buff for higher levels? I don't think you can proc guts back to back in the base game

>>737697654
>I forgot how it was before
It only had 1 charge.

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>>737686450
I hope so

>>737697654
you cant, it goes on a cd similar to auto revive

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Is the world of Grand blue fantasy varied enough to make an RTS?

>>737697880
I don't play the Granblue Gacha. In that universe can human men fuck fem draphs and impregnate them?

>>737698018
i wish female humans were real

>>737697654
Rosetta is a fake human tho

>>737697035
Should've built CPU Eugen

Didn't this release already?
Like 2 years ago?

This dlc or some shit?

>>737678009
>>737678484
>Not War Elemental +
NGMI

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>>737697880
>gunlance in relink
One can only hope.

>>737698060
Never explicitly denied or confirmed outside of one event mentioning it vaguely but was later retconned along with the rest of the timelines
Hell very next event the following month confirmed crossbreeding but that was between humans and fae

Can I still cheat in sigils? I had loads of fun playing it until finding a lobby took forever and I quit

>>737686450
I am utterly shocked that Anila not only wasn't in the base game, but also left out of the base expansion roster

>>737698356
Clearly a expansion

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>>737698509
Either Razia or Halle would be interesting gameplay wise. Plus they are both really cute.

>>737698663
You can, use the updated table from the same place

>>737686450
I think the chance is very slim. Not sure why though since a lot of them are very popular

>no Vira
>no Aliza
>no Metera
>no Lowain
>no Anila
>no Zooey
>no Soriz
>no Yuel
>no Seox
>no Vikala
>no Nier
>no Europa
>no Robomi
>no Black Knight
>no Orchid
>but fucking GHANDAGOZA, the entire crew that was cut from the story anyway, all four homo knights
What a garbage roster

>>737699290
im glad you arent in charge because you have garbage taste

>>737699290
>GHANDAGOZA
I still don't know what the fuck they were thinking. It should have been Aliza or Soriz if they wanted a male brawler.

>>737701752
They wanted the barafurry audience

>>737662675
I like Granblue because I like the Asanagi Draph porn
I don't like Granblue as a game

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>literally half this thread
So many questions from retards who keep getting relink confused with the gacha. Learn to google fags.

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>>737703580
Io is just cute

>>737705021
yes

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I like both lolis in the beta. Are there more in the full game? I want a whole loli team if possible.

>>737707847
There's one other currently in the base game as bossfight only and she'll be playable once the expac launches.

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>>737707847
caggie and maggie (soon)

>>737699290
>never gave a single fuck about Ghandagoza
>read his story about how obscenely strong he is
I'm sorry, but relink shilling him worked. He's like Akuma if he was a good guy

>>737699290
Seox is getting in, he's the last crew member of the new timeline unless they're using Id as a replacement in this game.

>mash square non-stop then cast all skill whenever off cooldown
>veeeeery generous dodge
>just have to watch out for red circles on the ground and dodge every once in a while
It's boring

>>737709878
Pretty much like mh/pso

damn i forgot how fun this game was, i know it's a glorified button masher but something about it works.

>>737707847
charlotta io cag and maglielle is probably the best you're going to get, unless one of the two datamined character is one

BROWN
LOLI
WITH TWIN TAILS

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>>737712695

july is so far awaaaaaaay
need more shit to grind for

>>737682218
>the cutest
Thats cag-chan

>>737682017
God yes, i just started playing and my god does it feel slow without it

>>737694115
i used cream before and when i started replaying the game in announcement to the expansion to catch up, seems the devs reverted and "took" back all the dlc sigils and items.