Why does nostalgia have a stranglehold on people?
because old things were genuinely better
You're missing your emet selch picture and cringe chatgpt essay, frogfaggot.
>>737664057Adult life isn't fun if you don't have a succesful one (good salary, status, spouse and or kids) so nostalgia reminds you of when life was still good.
>reddit froggo back
because new games suck
fuck off jim ryan
>>737664057shit got gayer my nigga
>>737664108also; reality is too shit.
rose colored glasses have always been a thing, but for consumers its because the world is tangibly getting worse and for those who actually make content (studios/producers) its because of risk aversion (they know IPs customers immediately know and love will sell 10x more than something new and unknown) in short, blame the economy
>>737664057Nostalgia doesn't work when people can play old games that they've never played before and feel the sovl
>>737664057Hi OP this is literally you https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737396969/#q737396969
Centuries of ongoing decline aside, a thing you enjoyed in the past is a guarantee of enjoyment, and as you build up memories of good times, your incentive to risk your time on new, potentially mediocre media diminishes. Hence the older you get, the easier it is to enjoy the same things forever.
>>737664108/thread
>>737664057Because contemporary everything is currently so shit.
>remember old thing being good>sequel to old thing announced after many years>they promise it's better than old thing>it's worse than old thing
>>737664057Because worse is better. If you get savagely raped in an abandoned strip mall, that's LVDOKINO SOVL. If you win the lottery, that's soulless goyslop.
>>737664170Even if you have those things, there are countless other things that can ruin it all. Divorces, mentally ill children, chronic illness, substance abuse, ectVery few people are spared from suffering.
>>737664112wouldn't be a frogfaggot if he used an emet selch pic now, would he?
>>737664057the internet
>>737664108>being a retarded kid with no responsibilities was better than a retarded adult with responsibilities
>>737666680>being a retarded kid with no responsibilities was better than a retarded adult with no responsibilities*
>>737664057What if it's not nostalgia but just liking particular eras / styles of gaming. Should they be forgotten just because you don't want to be called nostalgic, so you have to absolutely stick to modern games ?Plus, if you're still discovering games from a particular era, it's gotta be a win/win situation.Idk why this is such a big issue in gaming, when I can discover a genre of music that only existed from 88-93 and find new hidden gems etc, no one is saying you're lame for not exclusively listening to modern music.
>>737666680>>737666769Sweaty, we don't use the R word anymore.
>>737664108fpbp
>>737666957>we
>>737667225Correct. We, the good communist blue haired people with mutilated genitalia. M*n need to be unalived.
>>737666680It has been 16 since games don't significantly change.Graphics are the same shit, gameplay is the same shit, it's the same franchises.Crysis is as old now, as Megaman 3 was when crysis was released, yet we don't have a game that has the same graphical or gameplay gap.
>>737664108That is like asking to miss out on new things being great because you're too busy hating on the iceberg's peak of modern games.Forget the Nostalgia vs Modern debate. It's all about context, no matter the era, some games are good and others not.People don't play old games because they're nostalgic, it's because a golden age happened and these games are objectively great. We can enjoy past and present golden ages.
>>737667386>derka derka muhammad jihad poor ESLspeak>diminishing returns means nothing has changed>talks about Crysis, which is the poorfag's favorite gotcha$10 (you know, dollars, not Ugandan shillings) you have a potato and claim "nobody needs more."
Look at some shit like this. It was a really different era of games. So any different types of games and franchises were starting and not run into the ground and having to reivent themselves for 3D. 3D was so fucking new and every new game had its own take on it. Now everything has been done and there's no real innovation because the surviving 3D language from the experimental language has been iterated to homogenization. So many franchises are run into the ground. 1998, this was the first Pokemon game to release. Nothing like it really before with the trading and multiple versions. Now Pokemon is an institution and you've seen everything that can be done with it. As a kid, every 3 to 4 years, gaming was being changed forever. Now a generation comes and goes and games play roughly the same.
>>737667487So you don't have an actual response or defense, got it.Games should be looking like this now, give or take:https://superspl.at/scene/34eb266d
>>737667550>Pokemon in there like it's a real gameYou zoomzooms just can't help yourselves.>>737667609It should be looking like the rubble of your eastern european village?
>>737667647Not looking like a PS3 game with slightly better textures would be a good start.
>>737664057Because new gaymes can't even compete. People will always favor their childhood games even if the new ones are equal or superior in quality, but when they are 100 times inferior, there is not even a contest.
>>737667386Super Mario Wonder was unironically never seen before though.
>>737667724Maybe if you weren't playing console games, you'd see improvements. But what do you expect from AMD APUs when their discrete GPUs haven't advanced in 5 years?
>>737666957I was oddly gratified to hear a teenager tell another teenager on the bus that something was retarded. That's one word they've been trying to get their hands on and turn into a no-no word, and I don't understand why they want to elevate a schoolyard insult into a slur.
>>737667386Game quality is just technical?
>>737667893There is this thing called youtube, where you can watch videos from games, but old and new.And when i watch videos from modern video games, they don't look as realistic as say mad dog mcree.>>737667996No, but the gameplay stagnated so much at least on the AAA space that is not even worth discussing.
>>737667837Yes, it does look pretty unique and has some nice mechanics and all.But it's one lost in a pile of repetitive garbage and remakes.
>>737667996No, game performance is. Game quality is executional with technical being basically what ties the knot in that regard. This is why AAA went to shit; has none of the prior.
>>737667609We only have $300 million to make the game, how are we supposed to pay for that?
>>737668041>I watch low bitrate, low framerate videos on YouTube and think I can judge game quality from themAnd no, Mad Dog McCree looked like shit, even on laserdisc. It had that 90s chromakeyed video look all shit from that time had.
>>737667609Crimson desert kinda looks like this
>>737664057Jews
>>737664057it all circles back to 9/11 and 2008
>>737667398>present golden agesOnly someone who loves to eat shit would ever think of modern games being nowhere near good
>>737664170>Adult life isn't fun if you don't have a succesful one (good salary, status, spouse and or kids)Nah, I don't earn a lot not do I have a family and I'm more happy than when I was a kid because I'm free to do as I please.
>>737667398>objectively a subjective thing
>>737664057>plebbit frogNostalgia activates certain parts in the brain. Old research proved to be wrong, see>>737664108Nostalgia had shit to do with old. Plenty of teenage girls listen to california dreamin' and cri everitim. Start to get (pseudo) 70s clothing and yearn for a time they neither experienced nor have an accurate picture of it. The post 2000s generation experience absurd high nostalgia levels.
Nostalgia is less a longing for a past we once lived than for a future we once dreamed of.I remember back in early 00s feeling like things might become better across the board now, that there are so many things to look forward to. I had that naive hope that with the rise of the internet people might finally set aside their differences and all that political bullshit and just enjoy things together. How silly was that.
>>737664057The only people nostalgia has a strangehold on are the those who use it as a scapegoat because they can't conceive of an old game being better than a new one.
>>737665501You have no idea of what is actually better or worse, only preconceived notions.
>>737676507Bad things are good. That's the /v/ way.
>>737667487>>diminishing returns means nothing has changedDevelopers wasting so many resources on diminishing returns is an indication of how retarded they are, and why they can't make good games.
>>737676590No, people are just better than you at recognizing quality.
>>737676612>indication of how retarded they areRather>undeniable proof of how...
>>737676612The reason why developers refuse to make games in a lot of cases is due to market research.>market research shows over half of gamers are female>they don't tell publisher that "gamer" means someone who played any game for more than 1 hour in a week, be it candy crush or a real game>publisher sees that huge majority of women that aren't buying their games currently, and feels the need to tap that market to make more than the shitty minority of male gamers>they make everything pink and put dick jiggle physics in games, and remove attractive women that could be threatening to females>game is shit, because they only thought as far as pandering>nobody buys it, so they blame it on the tiny minority of bigots that they believe review bombed them>rinse>repeatIt's not chasing graphical fidelity, because that's been the thing since home video games first started showing up on the market. The reality is they're not trying to make good games, because gamers aren't driving decisions. Executives who don't understand games are driving decisions.>>737676734The very essence of "SOUL" on 4chan is how janky and shitty something is. The board is populated by 44 year old zoomers.
>>737672346Only for the wealthy. The systematic destruction of American life as it lent itself to better times was underway well before then.
>>737676458As someone who has gotten the stereotypical symptoms of memories being overwritten, what usually winds up happening from the old games is that the 2D stuff is largely untouched. Yet the 3D stuff had some subtle and insidious deception going on like how I remembered looked more like I took the box art and slowly morphed the low poly to resemble it. Or one case where some pug faced motherfucker was so repulsive I completely replaced his head and hair but i still do that even now because of how bad it is to look at.If anything i find myself having a better memory then people younger then me, or at least they describe something in the most vaguest shit possible and get defensive about it. All that nostalgic boomer accusations could be entirely their own projection.
>>737676827>The reason why developers refuse to make games in a lot of cases is due to market research.Yeah, like I said, they're retarded.>It's not chasing graphical fidelity, because that's been the thing since home video games first started showing up on the market.Spending tens/hundreds of millions on graphical fidelity only to end up with games that look the same as 10 years ago is retarded.
>>737667398lol noHere let's compare a year before you and me and likely everyone here was born 1986 to 2026Best selling games of 1986 include Super Mario BrothersOut RunGradiusGhost N GoblinsGauntlet Zelda 1MetroidDragon Quest 1Now 2026Resident Evil 9Pokemon PokopiaCrimson DesertMarathon Now which would you rather play?
>>737677021>games that look the same as 10 years agoThey only look the same as games 10 years ago on hardware from 10 years ago. That's a dishonest argument (shocking, coming from someone on /v/). Inb4 cherrypicked examples and that one shot of Battlefront or that Video of a tank rolling.>>737677075>Marathon>best sellingSaar.
>>737676827>The very essence of "SOUL" on 4chan is how janky and shitty something is.There are plenty of soulless janky and shitty games, and there are soulful games that are highly polished. The essence of soul is how far away something is from passionless, homogenized corporate slop.You can't discern soul OR quality.
>>737677106I may have been a bit cheeky in that best selling listPoint still stands
>>737677165No, composite video has SOVL. S-video or component is soulless. Taking 45 minutes to install a game off Bluray has SOVL. Downloading it in 3 minutes is soulless. Being a NEET has SOVL. Being a wagecuck just means you're a soulless goycattle slave paypig consoomer.
>>737677001Depends on the game for me, but yeah it happens with 3D games a lot more than 2D. For me it's usually draw distance being much worse than I remember.
>>737677254I was playing the Legacy of Kain: Defiance remaster, and the remastered version was how I remembered it, despite it not actually looking like that.
>>737677106>They only look the same as games 10 years ago on hardware from 10 years ago.Higher resolution means fuck all, it usually just coincides with UIs becoming 10x worse
>>737677335>this new game on 1080p low (struggling to get 15fps on my tater) looks the same as a game from 10 years ago on 4k ultraThis is you.
>like old gameREEEEEEEE NOSTALGIA>dislike old gameREEEEEEEE ZOOMER>like new gameREEEEEEEE SHILL>dislike new gameREEEEEEEE CONTRARIAN
>>737677309To be fair, nobody wants to remember Melchiah with his toad underbite.
>>737677231>No, composite video has SOVL. S-video or component is soulless.It's largely a matter of preference, but some games actually do look better with less visual clarity. But there's probably no point in explaining it to you.>Taking 45 minutes to install a game off Bluray has SOVL. Downloading it in 3 minutes is soulless. Being a NEET has SOVL. Physical hardware definitely has soul. You're just demonstrating that you either don't understand or are deliberately misrepresenting the positions you're complaining about.>Being a wagecuck just means you're a soulless goycattle slave paypig consoomer.NEETs who act superior to people who work are massive faggots, you'll get no argument from me on that.
>>737677372Because modern games are known for their fantastic optimization and wonderfully high and stable frame rates, right?
>>737676906well yeah, 1913 and 1971
>>737677464Accurate.
>>737677721It's a miracle
>>737677721
>>737677721jeetptimization is a real problem but i haven't turned down a single graphics setting below max in years and i went from a 2080 to a 4080S, if you can't afford ~800-1k for a gpu every 4-5 years stop being a fucking broke failure
>>737664108cognitive dissonance
>>737664057remembering good things is a bit like experiencing the good thing
I don't like to complain often about new games, but generally, the more devs put into graphics, the less they put into gameplay and mechanics.
>>737664057Hot take:Because they have been traumatized by todays world and they seek the innocence and joy they had in childhood.
>>737677903good morning sar
>>737679561>how dare you disrespect all the true aryan white men with PCs that nobody needs more than
