why did he do it?why did he save ffxiv?
why do people who play this game keep praising it while the devs fuck them in the ass? no other game does this
>>737673896>no other game does this
>>737673896>get fucked in the ass (Dawntrail)>players complain, it's the only negatively reviewed expansion>in response, the devs save XIV and change everything players complained aboutYou see, the "issue" is that XIV players don't praise the game while being fucked in the ass.
>>737673940if you say anything bad about this game you get blocked or downvoted kys shill
>Evercuckold
>randomasianman.jpg>irrelevant time wasting question
FFXIV: Combat Devolved
>>737674187>>737674154>>737674069>>737674012cry more fags just let me ERP in peace
>>737674224>just let me ERP in peace
>give doomniggers literally everything they want>the light of God filling their bodies burns to the touch and they cry out about Dawntrail being bad forever>"um actually xivvies r being fucked in the ass and eating shit, combat devolved! lol!"I saw something about WoW largely having to can their housing feature because of negative feedback or bugs or something. Wonder if that has anything to do with trying to spin what's nearly a second reboot of the game as a negative.
Why are gamers so ugly?
>>737673896>why do people who play this game keep praising it while the devs fuck them in the ass? no other game does this
>>737673975I want to see Wuk Shit skinned alive and her pet hanged on my wall before I believe anything.
>>737674379
>>737674379>you see, this is actually based, and they are actually making fun of gays and trannies by adding an official pride event
Tranny game sisters, we lost
just watched the QA. i can't believe one of you idiots wasted a question on more glamour plates
>>737674424ow the edge
>>737674379>>737674432>>737674449Are you seriously implying wowfags dont complain all the time? They still sub, but they dont praise bad design
>>737674512>but they dont praise bad designEvery WoW player that ever begged to have Chris Metzen or Ion Hazzikostas back should burn in hell
>No, YOU play the tranny game!>NO NO NO YOU PLAY THE TRANNY GAME!Meanwhile, both corporations are ran by the same jewish billionaires that want you dead.
>>737674481Be happy that those are the idiots funding the game by buying all the fantasia and store clothing
well, at least we are now 95% sure that Kate is goneThere is hope
>streamlined>retuned>simplifieddownhill ever since HW just waiting for auto battle mode now
I'm hyped for the game but what point is there to play until at least September
>Endcolder
>>737674556It kills me people still think shadow government and "deep state" are a thing
>>737674069troonfags... how do we recover?
>>737674597i'll not be renewing my sub till north horn. i just want msq and windurst. might stay subbed for beastmaster, might not
>>737674597september is blizzcon when classic+ gets announced where all the mmochuds will hang out. no int ranny retail or xiv to play with pink dresses and furniturereal HORDE vs ALLIANCE armageddon. BLOOD AND THUNDER
>>737674623dont you have a false flag or psyop to plan, jew?
>>737674659>real HORDE vs ALLIANCE armageddon. BLOOD AND THUNDERBraindead zoomer retard larping. Nobody cares about cancer+
>>737674512>They still sub, but they dont praise bad designNeither to XIV players. The difference is XIV players complained and their game got fixed. WoW players either don't complain or their devs don't listen, and they have a tranny parade in their game now... and no one is complaining about it.
>asked a question about zenos's enormous dumpy
https://www.tokyoplayers.org/event-details/lemons-lemons-lemons-lemons-lemons-2026-02-14-15-00
>>737674720put on the flamingo dress you beta bitch
Are MMO players using internet explorer? Why do they think trannies are unique to "their" games?
>>737674782wow she's really SOURED up
>>737674815I use the web browser in the Steam client
>>737674815I assume automatically that anybody moaning about trannies on 4chan is, like, 15 years old at most.
>>737674659>real HORDE vs ALLIANCE armageddon. BLOOD AND THUNDERBack in the day, I Gnomish Mind Control Cap'd horde players who were good at the game and gave them our vent info, and we hung out and then account shared and ganked people we knew on both sides.
koji "aisloppa" fox
>>737674782>Kate became a lemon-stealing whore
>>737674754>game got fixed.
>Doomers won so hard they became Hopers.
>>737674876is that how people see lalas?
>niggachu
>>737674930and yet square won't let me preorder the expansionthey won't put dawntrail on sale eithercurious!
>>737674930rest assured i have no intention of inviting those faggots to my FC house-party just because they changed sides. they still smell like cabbage
>>737674975Dawntrail has been on sale like 10 times at this point.
>>737673830can you faggots stay in your containment zone
>>737675031>enters house>ugh stay in your house!
>>737674340>give doomniggers literally everything they wanti didn’t see an announcement for an unlimited glamour catalog anywhere. maybe next expansion
>>737674930That's what you don't get about "doomers". We're angry because we want the game to be better. If the game gets better then we're happy.
>>737675015yet it isn't nowcurious!
>>737675083Nobody rants for nearly three straight fucking years because they want the game to be better, that's mental illness on any one person's part
>>737675119>everyone is one person
hehehehecombat devolved
>>737675119>Nobody rants for nearly three straight fucking years because they want the game to be betterI do.>that's mental illness on any one person's partFan is short for fanatic.
>>737675132if you demand the same thing as an extremist but in a more polite term, you are effectively the same
>>737674782>>737674836
>>737674975It's on sale right now, retard.
PLEASE COME BACKPLEASE
>>737674493I just want her dead.
>>737675370I CAN'T BE A DOOMER IF YOUR GAME IS GOOD PLEEEEASE COME BACK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>>737675219>square enix storerofl
>>737675370People really didn't like the whole killing Hydaelyn deal. It felt like the whole plotline with Gaia was completely squandered.
regarding evolved modeyoshida said everything I didn't want to hear, then tamaki-kun said everything I did want to hear.
I'll get some screenshots of the concert for shitposting tomorrow.
Evercold doesn't even have any notable features, I have no idea why XIVfags are celebrating. >But I can make my catgirl puke green now!Ok.
will warmthbringers have another field operation? bozja is still some of my favorite content in the game, perfect mix of casual/midcore/hard content
>>737675458Most encouraging part of Evolved mode is that it's just one guy responsible for all of it from start to finish besides general QA work; there's a unified vision going on
>>737673830>people spend years saying nu-smn is bad>people say it's a braindead lego job>now nu-smn is good and it's good that every job will be nu-smn soon
>>737675495They're promising some kind of changes to normal MSQ field zones so we might not get a field operation just because we won't need one
>>737675495we don't know. but i'd lean towards no. forays would be unnecessary if the overworld was interesting enough
>>737675516did you watch the dev panel where they talked about evolved mode and demoed a few jobs? I was expecting the worst but it changed my mind.
>>737675442That's the OG way and is not hit when Steam goes down every once in a while
>>737675496More so that the guy has a proven track record and he sounds like he actually knows what he's talking about.
>>737675516and yet nu-smn was by far the most played job in EW just because it was OP and now that it's not OP nobody plays itat the end of the day the doomers and the blind hype players are one in the same
>>737675581Most interesting part of his track record is he's directly responsible for the whole heckin' chungus 120s meta everybody bitches about; he designed Ninja for ARR 2.4, the absolute root source of it all via Trick Attack
Did /v/ cry nonstop when SAM got dumbed down? What's with this total 180 where dumbing down is suddenly good?
>>737675581>>737675637>Most interesting part of his track record is he's directly responsible for the whole heckin' chungus 120s meta everybody bitches aboutThat's not true at all. Raid trannies bitching for years on the official forums that their raid buffs don't align unless they use specific comps is what caused the 2 minute meta. Trick Attack wasn't even 2 minutes when it was first introduced.
>>737675637And now he must destroy the monster he inadvertently created, its like pottery.
>>737675637>2.4Nigga you're blaming the butterfly for the tsunami that destroyed your house. He build a good job then players optimized the fun out of it, as they tend to do.
>>737675516If we apply a little critical thinking, you might be able to realize the answer>Nu smn, in the context of our current battle system, is bad>Nu smn, in the context of a battle system where a boss is more active and not designed around 2 minute bursts, might be better and allow for more interesting job designIf it was just evolved jobs in a vaccum, people would fucking hate it.
>>737673830Is it worth it to slog through 7.1 to 7.55? I instant dropped after 7.0 since it was so shit
>>737675676>>737675558
>>737675768that's not convincing at all
>>737675693>yeah well RAID TRANNIES, and TRICK ATTACK isn't TWO MINUTESYou're a special kind of completely ignoring what was typed to bitch about raiders>>737675701It'll be cool to see him come back to his first designed job too, supposedly he was in charge of PvP job designs as well and I'm gonna take a wild guess that PvP's rework for Crystalline Conflict was beta testing for the current Evolved mode designs>>737675728There was literally zero possibility of Trick Attack not becoming meta and people aligning to its window of opportunity. We are in a post-Trick world and buff consolidation would make no sense if Trick hadn't paved the way, it already dominated the general meta from its introduction all the way up to EVERYBODY having a party buff and even after that it still reigned as among the best party buffs to take until Dokumori took its place
>>737675370so we're mad at them for...realizing they messed up and course correcting?
>>7376757507.1 and 7.2 are skipcore. 7.3 is mostly also bad but has a few decent moments that you might want to witness. 7.4 was actually pretty good.
>*saves your game*How does he do it?
>>737675810>You're a special kind of completely ignoring what was typed to bitch about raidersI replied to what was typed.
>>7376757507.1 is bad, but everything after is better than 7.0.
>>737675818He's probably mad the game is still higher population than it was during Stormblood before any thought of WoW migrancy or COVID stay-at-home
>>737675802I was asking you a question
>>737675824he isn't 50 years old and plays modern video games
>>737675818YES! GET ANGRY! There is a tranny parade in WoW and XIV had a lot of good news!The shitpost chart might even *gasp* go up!This is VERY VERY bad!
>>737675370>back to SHB levelswestwolves is bad, but this doesn't seem to be catastrophic like people are making it out to be
>>737675810>There was literally zero possibility of Trick Attack not becoming metaOf course a buff like trick attack was going to be meta, but the meta of 6.0 onward. Stop being disingenuous.
who cares if the DT story sucked? The battle content has been amazing
>>737675898I think the real number was like 770,000 players considered "active" by this census, which is still within "numbers that any MMO would fucking kill to have"
I NEED to see NIN evolved NOW
>>737673940WoW players bitch about how shit the game is while Blizzard fucks them in the ass.They are not the same.
>>737675906The meta of 6.0 onward is completely and utterly informed by Trick Attack and the effects it had on the game's design and player behaviors since 2.4What are we not getting here
>>737675936The gameplay of xiv isn't good enough to stand on its own. It's only enjoyable in the context surrounding them. No matter how good a piece of content is, it's still stuck in the context of DT.
>>737675936the battle content has been good but it's also the same shit we've been doing for almost 10 years.Yoshida also said that on the higher end, 20% of people clear savage. that's 80% of the population not being catered to.
>>737675898What LuckyBancho also doesn't say is that the largest drop off in the chart occurs immediately after the ability to private Lodestones is introduced. Their data is based on Lodestone achievements. There are even people who have a public Lodestone, but who don't have their achievements public. Additionally, it seems that new characters have their achievements hidden by default now.
>no 2 minute meta!>ok cool i gue->we can design bosses freely without having to worry about burst windowsthese fights are gonna be insane
>>737675936>who cares if the DT story sucked?I have to play it to access the battle contenteven skipping it requires hours of hitting ESC and walkingthey don't even sell a fucking skip
>>737675936only savageeverything else flopped pretty badly
>>737676006They have never sold a skip for a current expansion
>>737675978Imagine if fights are just the most active mechanics 80% of the time, instead of doing a mechanic and then force resetting back to middle for 30 seconds.
>no 2min meta>focus on trimming bloat and giving jobs identity>death of 2min meta frees up encounter design to be more creativewe're so back nigga
>>737675810Its way too early for you to make a call like that who knows what is going to happen to all the classes now for all you know Trick attack could become something only Ninjas could benefit from because they dont want people to leave people out ect...
>these fights are gonna be insanecircle on the ground... wait no... a RECTANGLE on the ground... holy SHIT...
>>737675936It doesn't matter how good or varied the battle content is, the MSQ is the foundation upon which XIV is built, and if the MSQ is bad that loses the casual audience and all people who follow the story (most players), which also gives shitposters (people who are obsessed with Yoshida and/or WoWfags) a lot of ammo in the ever evolving culture war that is modern video game discussion.
>>737676069
>>737674782the "failed writer" memes about localizers is actually real, huh?man that's fucking funny.
All I need is RDM to remain stylish and verraise
>>737676027yeah well maybe they should have started doing it because DT is straight dogwater
>>737675965*hits pipe*So let me get this straight. You're saying the guy that designed nin back in *checks notes* 2014 knew the inclusion of trick attack would lead to the creation of the 2min meta 7 years later?
>>737675978>Barbaccia phase 2 but without the 2 minute refresh
>>737676170I read the website. I think she DIRECTED the play, but it was apparently written in like 2015 by someone else.
>>737674876It’s so funny how low IQs didn’t get his jab at the CEO and are seething about “muh AI”.
>>737676093imagine the boss not having to stand still so you can get your burst phase off.
Kate status?
>>737676189>would lead to the creation of the 2min meta 7 years later?Keep in mind, the 2 minute meta was SE's solution to literally YEARS worth of raid trannies bitching on the official forums that their buffs don't align outside of certain comps.
>make post dawntrail expansion good>nobody buys it because DT ruined the game's reputation>those that do end up buying it have to play through dawntrail to access itlol
>>737676234there are still positional so bosses aren't gonna be moving/spinning around
>>737676259Honestly I wonder if some part of all this is them realizing that the raid players don't pay the bills compared to the overwhelming majority of normies that really don't like autism MMOs.
All jobs sharing an ilvl is so unprecedentedly based. Heil Yoshida-sama.
>>737676189I don't think it would have taken a genius to figure out a really good debuff/party buff would dominate the meta but no nobody said he would precognitively know about the game deciding to treat Trick Attack as gospel truth for the next ten yearsThat being said I do think he did keep feeding into it after it had been established, especially Astrologian and Dancer
>nin evolved>mudras are ogcds again
>>737675637Wouldn’t say it’s only his fault. It’s just how things happened overtime, between player optimization and other jobs aligning to the “meta” (remember physical move types?). But that is funny to think about Trick Attack being the initial thing.
>>737676234>devs pretend as it's someone else's fault that shit like this happenedNo one asked for 2 minutes meta, no one asked for bosses to be striking dummies. They are the ones who tried to simplify the game after SB and in effect made it worse.
>>737676291evolved drg had true north baked into its rotation, lil bro.
Are they hiring Britoid VAs again for Evercold or are the C*lifornian-Am*ricans here to stay
They should have added a skill tree for jobs and reworked gearing for classes so you could actually feel different to someone elses character gameplay wise.
>>737675978I really want to see how they design casters since they might keep a lot of instant casts anywayI like to see BLM being rewarded for standing still what with all the instant casts they have now, maybe something like leylines lasting forever but they go on cooldown once you leave them, with limited teleports that bring the leyline with you
>>737676361>no one asked for 2 minutes meta, no one asked for bosses to be striking dummies
>>737676189>>737676317>I don't think it would have taken a genius to figure out a really good debuff/party buff would dominate the metaTrick Attack was also 60s at first. Everyone doing their 15-20 second burst once every 60s would be preferable to them doing it once every 2 minutes.
>>737676294they're adding EX difficulty to raids so yeahIDK why it took them a fucking decade to notice only 10-20% of their users clears savage (and those are JP numbers)
>>737676194>>737676029>fights don't just readjust immediately>tanks now have to actually position bosses again
>>737676361parsetrannies literally asked for all that shit.
>>737675370
>>737676290dawntrail skip potion is going to become one of their best sellers.dawntrail's profits are going to be back-loaded.
>>737676361>No one asked for 2 minutes meta, no one asked for bosses to be striking dummies.Raid trannies did. For years.
Why do Dawntroons think people are going to come back?
>>737676373Also their regular 123 doesn't have positionals. You just do that as you're moving inbetween the left and right.
>>737676432My wife, Shtola
>>737676432watch the keynote and evolved job panel
>>737676432No one is coming back until there is concrete proof that the ones responsible for the horrors of Dawntrail have been permanently removed
>>737676432Because this dead game managed to get multiple 1500+ threads back to back on friday.
the death of parse culture is a 100% win. other addons will replace fflogs but like mare it will be sundered
>>737673896The game is a cult. It's unique among online games. They have a cult leader too constantly promising things, never following through, and the community making excuses for their cult leader after his prognosticated fix never comes to pass. SE doesn't heal until this cancerous man is fired from the company. He has too many enablers.
>>737676419So parsetrannies begged for it, but parsetrannies also begged for it to go away, but oh no I've gone cross-eyed
>>737676429just give it out for free if you actually want your game to recover
>>737676470Kate is gone. A detective anon found a play she is directing, and Japanese work culture dictates that you don't have free time if you're employed, definitely not enough to direct a play. We don't know about Hiroi, but I'm willing to pin all the blame on Kate.
>>737676361>No one asked for 2 minutes metaThats one way to out yourself as a newfag.
>>737675447I didn't really mind Hydaelyn dying, it was making her look stupid that bothered me. Your benevolent mommy Goddess guiding you ending up being a lady you went back in time and told her what to do. That and the time we go back to meet her is made into a tour date with Emet Selch because fujoshit writer.
>>737676479there's still a really noticeable quality and speed divide between daytime threads and nighttime threads
>>737676386>>737676419>>737676431>>737676508Absolute retards making up shit that never happened
>>737676504>detectiveStalker, going by the "AHHHHAAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO" cocoa skintone of his original post
>>737676508>out yourself as a newfagHe's not a newfag. He either a WoWfag who doesn't play the game or he's one of the schizos who are obsessed with (hating) Yoshida.
>>737676510>told her what to dothere's a pretty long stretch of time where she's on her own.
>>737676515Because 14 has never been particularly popular in Europe. There's a reason they still only have 2 datacenters compared to the 4 the burgers and nips have.
>>737676069I'll never understand this optimism when yoship delivered flop after flopIs it just marketing shills?Doesn't seem organic. It's quite bewildering to read these posts on 4chan out of all places. You'd think that the ones posting here would be the most jaded and skeptical yet all it takes is for yoship to say something and without even seeing it, people start making posts like these, while completely memoryholing all the broken promises and flops priorOccult crescent was bad? Island sanctuary was ass? Forked tower was abysmal? Who cares! Yoship said thing new thing and new thing is good, forget bad, old thing he sold as good thingWhy?
>>737676537Raid trannies bitched FOR YEARS on the official forums that their raid buffs don't align unless they use specific raid comps. The solution to this was the 2 minute meta, where all raid buffs align now.
>>737676361>no one asked for bosses to be striking dummiesDunno about the 2min meta, but they definitely did ask for this. And they asked for football stadium-sized hitboxes too. I seen it.
>>737676576Are the, "raid trannies," in the room with us right now
>>737676537Your're right nonny. I'm sure the casual who don't even touch extremes bugged SE to adjust fights and jobs so that parsing is easier.
>>737673830I dont know about that. I think that the game just lost a lot of momentum and itll never really be the same as far as culutral relevancy. I dont think this game has any important stories left to tell. while I do think evercold will be entertaining, i dont think itll be the kind of story you need or want to resub for not for most anyway. Evolved style looks great and i wish the game played like that from the beginning. I look forward to returning to the game though>>737673896dt (understandably) received massive backlash.
>>737676504Not good enough.
>>737676575>I'll never understand this->entire post of schizobabbleevery time
>>737676592Probably not. I mean, I'm technically a raid tranny but I just play the game. I don't even care one way or the other about the 2 minute meta, but I do view it as a positive that it's going away.
>>737676575>I'll never understand this optimism when yoship delivered flop after flopyoship isn't the one doing the job rework, lil bwo.
>>737676592Unfortunately, but hopefully a few roped themselves after the keynote.
>>737676432troons are the ones hating evolved mode though
>>737676617Let me guess, you had a blast doing cosmic exploration
>>737676576>solution Yeah, right. You retards pretend like it wasn't just devs taking it easy with balancing.
>>737676641
>>737676575>>737676617kek, it really is like that every single time
>>737676603It won't even reach DT numbers
>>737676575I don't even play this game anymore but the answer you seek is really quite simpleIf you want to play an MMO, you HAVE to play either XIV or WoW. Both are ass. Both have shit devs. It doesn't matter because nobody else is making a big budget MMO, there is no escape.You either manage to abandon your desire to play MMOs or you accept getting fucked in the ass.
But what do I, a trial player, get out of any of this?
>>737676703Shadowbringers on Tuesday.
>>737676703Shadowbringers
>me complain 7.0 msq is snooze fest>NOOOO, you just have main character syndrome>but it's okay for wuk to hog all the spotlight tho
>>737676543How mad are you right now?
>>737676684I guess that's one way to look at it. You like eating shit, that's fine, but own up to it. All these niggers itt claiming it's the 2nd coming of jesus out of a few announcements without seeing anything concrete or playing themselves, especially given the past, is wild to read.
feels good to win, doesn't it
>>737676594It was always casuals crying though, trying to blame the game because they do bad or they don't get into PF parties.
>>737676738There isn't an answer I could give you that would change your mind about me thinking it's fucking weird to stalk Kate online
>guys come on the malevolent westerners at SE are finally gone, trust me!
Where is he? is he safe?
it's time...
>>737676742stand-up sex with this lala
It's finally time to bring my lalaboy back
Did Dawntrail even have Criterion/Variant Dungeons?
>>737676361You genuinely are out of the loop. This is the same shit that happens to most of these games, and when it doesn't overtly, it's usually subtly. The devs in this case love putting effort into raids, and had a vocal raid community they were appealing to, but in the process since ShB they've been virtually ignoring most other demands to coast on hoping appealing to raiders was the right way. Then the raiders were left while the vast majority of the playerbase fucking ditched because EW had nothing for them and DT was shit, and they're now realizing that was a very, very horrible option from the start.Games can't just appeal to the hardcore folks of a vocal minority, just like how games can't really appeal strictly to esports crowds. You're seeing this exact sort of thing start happening to a lot of live service games out there, chiefly Fortnite which is trying SO goddamn hard to suck esports competitive scene dick to the game's vast detriment on top of so many of their other retarded choices.
>>737676748Casuals don't use pf for anything but rp events and maybe maps. Yoshi said himself that only 20% of the playerbase max does any given savage tier.
Only Total Wuk Lmao Death will sate me.
>>737676797yes, 1. it was pretty good and also added a middle-tier difficulty.
>>737676748>it was casuals crying that raid buffs didn't line upI just don't believe you.
>>737676603>I dont think this game has any important stories left to tell.Endwalker just fucked all logical story progression by being so fucking earlyYou build a fucking spaceship and go to the edge of space to fight a bioweapon that has wiped out multiple planets. Then Dawntrail decides crafting content should be about going to even more space shit.Only NOW will they explore all the shards of the source. Only NOW will they look into showing more countries on the source.Endwalker should have happened 10 years from now, I have no idea what the fuck they were thinking. Covid gave them brainrot
>>737676787He's still around but will be permanently relegated to leveling sidequests and item descriptions until he either leaves or dies.
>>737676818*clearwho knows how many actually attempt it.
>>737676776I want to eat the bunny's hair.
>>737676741atp whoever stuck through dawntrail is here for life. yoship could take a shit on stage and these fags would clap, cry and rub their tears on their bitchtits
>>737676776They have to show examples somehow. Color choice freedom is a good thing, even if its hard to provide examples of without going full neon dangerhair donut steel.
>>737676716>>737676730I see. I'm still in HW
>>737676858same, but different
>>737676361You are an idiot
>>737676776They're really leaning in to the troonification of their game, huh?
this is the first time ive seen an mmo basically declare "fuck raid trannies" as a selling point
>>737676543>>737676773It's a good thing that someone found evidence that it's extremely likely that she was fired.
>>737676929main demographic
>you're going to be the savior of the 4th, but this time without graha or the rest of the scions to cockblock youthe WoL is going to bang so many xaela sluts.
>>737676929something something "bright colors deter predators"you are now imagining a snake sniffing a brightly colored frog and shrieking out "EUHHGGHHH TROONS!!!!!"
>>737676773How mad are you right now though?
>>737676929All they need now is a QoS tattoo and the troonification will be complete.
>>737676818>>737676825I think our idea of casuals are different. There's absolutely nothing hardcore about doing savage with pf.
>>737676946Every MMORPG should do that desu
>>737676575>>737676684>>737676741>>737676867Samefag
>>737676797The best one they ever made. It had an excellent medium difficulty that likely inspired the new 8 man raid difficulty. Also Arabian slutglams.
>>737676836I mean, honestly I can see what an initial plan there was; tons of stuff was hanging on from 1.0 still even though they loosely tried to resolve elements of that throughout, and Yoshida was making XVI at the time with presumably the rumblings of the FFT remaster starting some point late EW or early DT. They wanted to break out of XIV if not outright conclude it entirely, or at least slice off all those lingering 1.0 elements and transition a new team on so they could move to greener pastures, EW was basically a last hurrah if they would ever have one so they could try to ease the game off to let newer shit take focus.Then Square-Enix wanted ten more years of XIV because, well, it's still funding a large amount of company venture. And with all that work force spread outwards to other shit, they made a bunch of improv decisions for Dawntrail on the fly hoping to start mostly new shit only for that to collapse so horribly that they're now scrambling for resuming ideas from before EW. It's almost farcical.
>>737676953yeah I'm not falling for it
>>737676946think it's slowly becoming a trend across the industryWarframe design lead literally said "Raids are aids" a week ago
>>737676987>Savage is casualt. raidtranny
>>737676980>anon sees hair colors and begins to fantasize about black mena CIA blacksite couldn't torture that out of me anon. what are you doing?
I haven't subscribed since mid shadowbringers but I'm hoping this game does get better. It's honestly fun but the way rotations work seriously annoys me. It favors using bots to play your build perfectly and get high parses then it does to play the game yourself. I saw a video of a bot completing an ultimate raid and that just put me off entirely.The strict rotation where if you miss a single global cooldown your entire DPS plummets is so irritating.
Switch 2 release btw
>>737676836Endwalker more than anything should have been 2 expansions
>>737676787>owari desu ne
I still have a lot of questions but yoship and friends said a lot of what I wanted to hear. Focusing on individuality, reworking battle systems to kill the 2min meta, reworking jobs to feel more unique and, and have better job fantasy payoff, recognizing more needs to be done with open world content.
>>737677014isn't that the hag with the fuckable titties that went on to copypaste emet into warframe?
>>737677030What am I doing? Noticing patterns.
>>737676987>There's absolutely nothing hardcore about doing savage with pf.NTA, casuals are always complaining that the game is catering to raid trannies. It kind of is. Raid trannies got us the 2 minute meta. Most of the content that gets introduced are things that casuals will never touch, like Savage. At most, a casual might do EXs for the mounts, but EXs are the extreme (heh) end of what a casual will do. A casual is not doing Savage outside of maybe previous expansion Savages for old glam that they wanted to get but couldn't because they're casuals. If your view of "casuals" involves people who do Savage, you are wrong.
>>737677045It's obvious there was supposed to be a Garlean and Moon expansion before Endwalker. They rushed it
>>737677029>savage is hardlmao
i remembered that xiv threads were insta deletedwhat happened
>>737677002you VILL bookmark my kiwi farms thread on kate cwynari VILL flame you if you sink i am veird
>>737677094Its too hard for 80% of the playerbase yes.
How raidtrannies can still deny the devs catering to them and only them after the disaster of the exploration zone in DT is sad
>>737677089Why the fuck casuals even care about 2 minute meta then? They don't do any content that requires pressing buttons.
>>737677031>The strict rotation where if you miss a single global cooldown your entire DPS plummets is so irritating.That doesn't really happen.
>>737677109we just had a fanfest with a ton of information about the game so trying to police that would be fucking retarded. give it a week
>>737677158less so now but it used to happen a lot until recently. like losing enochian
>>737677109This >>737677160But also the xiv hating janny may have got in trouble for this https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737117346/#737126847
>>737677131It's the raidtrannies who hate the 2 minute meta that they themselves asked for. I'm "midcore" and I don't give a fuck, but I'm glad it's going away. If casuals are saying they hate the 2m meta, it's probably just because a YouTuber said it, but it is nevertheless the fault of raidtrannies that it exists.
>>737676592There are still some left sadly. But hopefully Evercold will kill off the rest and Balance trooncord will disband.
arguably the biggest announcement from the keynote.
>>737677191Losing Enochian is about the only time that would ever happen. Even losing a GCD during MCH's burst due to ping isn't really that bad if you miss one (1) GCD. It's if you miss one (1) GCD every minute for the entire 10 minute fight that it even becomes noticeable.
>>737677252Please God let me turn off the cape on that fending Historia set.
>quit in 7.0>scrolling jewtube>see video showing how they changed Aurum Vale and Daezwhatever >mfw the changes
>>737677234>be advised
>/v/'s face when Evercold becomes swamped with modernslop glams just like Dawntrail
>>737677252Surely they're not gonna go back and update all the gear in the game, right?
>>737677217Casuals hate it because it caused the oversimplification of everything, which in turn made casual content like dungeons and 24-mans complete snoozefests. Compare Ivalice to anything that came after. Compare AST, the most played healer in SB to its gutted ShB version which had similar numbers to MNK and BLU.
>>737677270God I hope we get toggles for ALL of the fucking capes and buttcapes. Free the tails from clipping hell.
>>737677252>you can finally remove the giant obnoxious furry tails from the Warg sets>you can remove the tassles from the blowjob veil
>>737677073No, she's the creative director. Gameplay lead is some fat unhinged Spaniardhttps://streamable.com/i3xxg9
>>737677158Happens all the time with summoner, Ninja, Black mage, and samurai. At least back in the shadowbringers it did. If you mess up your rotation at all within that damage buff segment then you were pretty much screwed.>>737676361You are blurring the lines. Is evolved simplified or is the 2 minute meta simplified?
>>737677314Sure are, kiddo. Most gear already has these toggles that trigger automatically to not cause gear appearance conflicts. You see it a lot with tops that have belts and other danglies.
>>737677252Can you turn off the butt capes?
>>737677314They're already separated for rigging. Its honestly not that big a job to go back and flag the individual parts. Literally less effort than making hats for the new races.
>>737677308Modernslop had an extant reason to be present as much as /v/ likes to scream and shit about itThe only real sin of the modernslop glamours was how samey they are, you could get crap from Vanguard and basically have every other set that released and was Solution Nine themed
I liked what I saw with PLD, but WHM has me worried, both for White Mage and the other healers. We havent seen the other three, but seven years of Glare spam does not inspire confidence. I've thought it couldn't get worse before, then Shadowbringers arrived.
>>737677380Hate to break it to you but modernslop is a slippery pit that you can never escape. The threshold has been crossed.
>>737677289Nooooo they added aoe markers to the cyclops save me niggerman.
>>737677323>which in turn made casual content like dungeons and 24-mans complete snoozefestsThe Dawntrail dungeons are some of the better dungeons though, and Kam is one of the best Alliance Raid fights ever. >Compare Ivalice to anything that came afterNier is better than Ivalice. Ivalice gets so much undue praise, it's crazy. Orbonne is good, but really it's the voice lines that are good. Shit is so powercrept it's insane. Even Cid doesn't kill anyone anymore. Anything outside of Orbonne isn't even worth mentioning. Meanwhile Copied Factory and Puppet's bunker are both good raids that still kill people. Tower is a piece of shit, but Red Girl and the final boss are both still very good fights. Nier has not been topped and probably never will be. I wanted XI to top it, but Kam is the only good fight in the XI raids.
>>737677340Oh so this is the fucker who removed raids. They could have just made them better I thought they were fun.
>>737677340I haven't played warframe in years but pablo was one of the few people at DE worth a shit. Anytime a frame you liked was getting a rework, you prayed it was pablo doing it.
Will best Au Ra girl be back for Evercold?
>>737677409Yes yes you'll be mad forever and freshly ragebaited every patch
Will Neversold have a new hebe wife?
>>737677438And you'll be there defense forcing, being the best little apologist you can be
>>737677418>Raidtrannies caused everything to become easier and easier>Ivalice sucks now because it isn't as hard as it used to beThese are not opposing statements sis.
>>737677308we're getting nordicslop now. prepare for a dozen viking horned helmets, roundshields, and slutty fur armor.
>>737677205Kek pretty sure you can go to their IRC chat and report this
>>737677483A little too horny to forever-hate the game there lad
>>737677459Ryne will come back for 8.0Trust
>>737677205>he got two (you)'s, one of them just calling him a baby bitch for deleting itKWABOOTY
>>737677489What the fuck are you on about? How is Ivalice difficulty (which was never hard) somehow relevant to combat? It's always the gimmicks that killed people and not dps checks.
>>737677380I call that sci-fi, not modern. I was mostly fine with that gear even if the early previews in PvP sets were a bit weird. My problem is with the sudden deluge of modern clothes, photo/logo t-shirts, and all sorts of blatant appeal towards scene kid and modern day fashion. Shit that doesn't fit Alexandria or Etheirys in general right now. And I say this as a fuckwit that bought the Magitek Outfit from the store. You've basically got traditional fantasy with some sci-fi influence on one side, hard sci-fi in another corner, and then people that look like trendy japanese fags coming out of the woodwork in between.I guess it's slightly more interesting than yet another not-Japan-in-its-damn-entirety design, but still.
>>737677498For like 10% of the content, then you find out the main hub of Evercold is a modern technologically advanced civilization and you're back to K-pop t-shirts all over again.
>>737677498I'm excited for them to delve into actual Nord and Scandinavian stuff to piss off all the viking larpers on the internet. Those guys are to European history what "I AM A DORF AND I'M DIGGING A HOLE" is to fantasy.
>>737677345>If you mess up your rotation at all within that damage buff segment then you were pretty much screwed.No, not really. Maybe if you are DEAD for a burst window and also eat the penalty, that's pretty damning. Missing a GCD isn't nearly as big a deal as you are making it. Not even in Shadowbringers.
>>737677331>you can finally remove the giant obnoxious furry tails from the Warg setsmaybe>>you can remove the tassles from the blowjob veilheadgear already has the visor toggle. They're not going to add another toggle option for it
Gonna be cautiously optimistic that this isn't another version of "wow is good now, promise!" that we get every expansion. Did they mention who is writing Evercold? If it's Hiroi again I'll probably won't even bother.
The Warrior of Light must be better.
>>737677585I hope we get beowulf and not just aesirslop
>>737677585looks boring as fucknow pic related, that's fuggin kino
>>737677606No. But Koji mentioned Ishikawa like 5 different times during his shitpost stream earlier.
>>737677585>>737677658Probably something closer to this honestly.
>>737677650Yeah only going with the Norse pantheon stuff for inspiration in that general region of time and its mythology would probably draw bad comparisons to Dad of Boy and its own interpretations thereof.>>737677658I mean I'd be down for some anachronistic viking-knights too.
>>737677489>These are not opposing statements sis.The things you greentexted don't even make sense. The reason Orbonne (and all old content) is easier is due to power creep, not raidtrannies. The 2 minute meta is not the reason that even Cid lost his punch, it's because kits are better and have more potency. Meanwhile, Nier still kills people. Ivalice doesn't do that anymore, and even when it did, only Orbonne was notable, and really only for Cid. Actually, I'll go ahead and say that Orbonne and San d'Oria are about equally as good as each other, due to Cid and Kam, and that Ivalice and Vana'diel are otherwise unremarkable, because they are, but we don't know what Windurst is like yet. And Nier, overall, still beats both of them, because only the first few bosses of Tower are bad (Red Girl and last boss are good), the rest of Nier is straight bangers.
>>737677660Then I remain cautiously optimistic until more information comes out. Ishikawa saved the game before, she might be able to do it again. Hiroi has no fucking chance after ruining two expansions, or hell just basically everything he touched.
>>737675975Not to mention now that China and Korea have parity with the rest of the world in patches, people have been moving to those regional servers which aren't tracked by Bancho
>>737677734>>737677727hmmm yesssss
>>737677757>Hiroi has no fucking chance after ruining two expansions, or hell just basically everything he touched.Hiroi's fine for sidequests and job quests, people were crowing about Pandaemonium being better than most of Endwalker's MSQ.
What's the most braindead job? What's the most involved job?
>>737674187does ff14 get a one button rotation soon?
>>737677831>What's the most braindead job?SMN>What's the most involved job?SAM
>>737677805>people were crowing about Pandaemonium being better than most of Endwalker's MSQI'd be interested in who those people were, be cause I've never heard of them.
>>737677848They added that in 6.0 sis.
>>737677861I'm sure you didn't given your overton window of Hiroi seems to be Dawntrail 7.0 and nothing else.
>>737677831Most braindead is definitely Summoner.
>new jobs are a literal usopp meme shit job and a flail niggaI wish the leaker never even leaked that shit man, killed my hype for the new jobs.
>>737676174I bet it's going to get a cooldown in EvolvedThere've been multiple times during DT when I've saved an Unreal or Extreme run because 3-4 people died and I got them all back up
>>737677892The leaker didn't get anything right. You're retarded.
>>737677314Most of the gear already had metadata toggles that allow you to turn off things, the devs will just unhide the option and enable the player to access it through some interface feature.
>>737677805Pretty sure most of that was just people wanting to fuck Elidibus and/or Athena.
>>737677757>Saved the game>Unleashed retarded red cat trannies everywhere and systematically made every female character irrelevantYou know she probably didn't even write most of shb right?
>>737677121Pareto principle. 80% of everything sucks ass. Humans included.
>>737677929That was probably a big part of it but the second round of raid floors had a really good cliffhanger and the third round ended strongly
>>737677896I wonder if they can make Cure swap to Raise when it targets a dead player or if it will still need its own button.
>>737677882I don't hate hiroi like most people. I think he was a mediocre writer that was elevated to a position he wasn't talented enough for, and then also had to deal with yoship changing the script on him because consulting firms told him having white eorzeans travel to beaner land as white saviors was too problematic.
>>737675370The game ended with pic rel for me. This is where FF14 peaked and the graph shows it. Everything after is fanfic.
>>737677805>He's fine for job questsThis is the retard that made a BLM jobquest about preventing an astral event that only they knew about somehow, in the fucking Ishgard expansion where they introduced the AST job. He has no regard for the existing world he's writing his stories into.>PandaemoniumPeople pointed out from the start that things didn't add up, and were maybe interested in seeing how it played out. It was a god damn abortion in the end, which was just atrociously bad and revealed that everything before it was just dumb and thoughtless. It fucking ends with the researcher who was just mind controlled by the big bad just putting the fucking Heart of Sabik in his pocket and we just leave it like that. I don't think FFXIV has a single dumber moment than that and yes, I played through the HW PLD job quests.
>>737677831>braindeadSummoner or warrior>involvedAstrologian or machinist
>>737677986>This is the retard that made a BLM jobquest about preventing an astral event that only they knew about somehow, in the fucking Ishgard expansion where they introduced the AST job.bait
>>737678001>Involved>Astrologian>MachinisI don't think you've played this game in like a decade bro.
>>737677913He got pvp combos right, and the dailies not being actual dailies, and the UI right. You sound like you got sour grapes faggot.
>>737677851>SAMlol
>>737677972>White saviors>Beaner landHoly shit man take your meds.
>>737678068>Stop believing your lying eyes goy
OFFTANK
>>737675370>"DT has the best gameplay ever seen on earth, chud!">lowest playercount since SBThis is proof that DT made everyone quit except the diehard fans who slogged through Yawnfail with the tranny cat, and who will never quit anyway.
>>737678026>I can't argue the point so I post copeYeah fuck off.
>>737677831Most braindead is definitely SMN. RPR is also pretty braindead, but I think it's still a tier above SMN. Not sure what the most involved job is. I think a lot of them are pretty similarly involved. >>737678042NTA, but MCH still has one of the highest APM and even I'd consider it one of the more involved jobs. AST stopped being "involved" when it lost Astrodyne imo.
>>737677158Dalamud plugins and MMOMinion wouldn't have wide spread adoption they have if that wasn't the case. Not sure about MMOMinion anymore though, I heard some free plugins on Dalamud performs just as good if not better than those $50 Rikudou addons for single DoW. Can anyone confirm?
>>737678068it always reads like they're pissed it wasn't a white savior story
>Hiroi is a dbz shonenfag that loves black clover and yu yu hakusho>Universally hated>Ishikawa is a fujofag who ships meteor with her oc that she forced into an alliance series>Universally lovedShonenbros.....
>>737678104>diehard fans>771kyou do understand those are amazing numbers for an MMO of any size, right? big enough numbers that "only the diehards stayed behind" makes doomers out to be the biggest dipshits on the planet
The WHM changes look like shit, what did they do with Assize?
>>737678151FF14 fans are all gay niggers and fat women. They love Emet Selch and Graha Tia.
>>737678125The goalposts are mover even farther and farther away from the original incorrect claim, anon. Your DPS does not "PLUMMET" from "missing a single GCD", end of story.
>>737678124>MCH>involvedLiterally do selfish and useless that nobody wants to play with them
>>737678174>what did they do with Assize?Not yet.
>>737677831SMN, WARNIN, MCH
>>737678171Some people still think 12m during OG WotLK is still possible for dadgamer genrea.
>>737678205MMO fans in general are the most dysgenic people on earth.
>>737678068Alright, let's break down who goes to tural>WoLThe most handsome white man (no homo) to ever serve as a player stand in for promo material>the twinsTwo teens so white, even their hair is as pure as the driven snow >thancred Another white chad>uriangerA white guy that talks like a nerdy theatre kidNow let's look at how tural is portrayed >DUDE TACOS>DUDE MEZCAL>just barely got airship technology last week because one of their royals studied abroad in a much more technologically advanced nation
>>737678132Yeah when you're not listening to what people are saying and just end up projecting I'm sure it would always sound the same.
>>737678247in hindsight i'm pretty sure blizzard was lying or being deceptive about 12m players and they meant 12m characters (i can't be assed to look up the actual claim to see if it said one or the other)
>>737678215Just answer the fucking question.
>>737677970The swap skill for VerRaise will be the RDM finisher when targeting a dead player. And yeah, you will need to have the finisher up to use it.
>>737678151The thing is, Hiroi is bottom of the barrel shonen and pushed his new characters so hard without doing anything to make them interesting. Ishikawa would fucking mating press the cast and lore into the earth if she could and that appeals to folks more.
>>737678171Wow and osrs have millions
DT would've been better if it was just all one big tournament arc with faction fuckery going on in the background.
>>737678241>Literally do selfish and useless that nobody wants to play with themWhat does it matter whether or not people *want* to play with a MCH? You just join PF and play the game. DNC isn't even advantageous to have outside of statics where you throw all the gear onto your best DPS during prog.
>>737678268uhhh mister advertiser i don't mean to alarm you but there's uhhhh you might wanna see this
>>737676234Imagine joining in 8.0 and going back to old content and wondering why the bosses all fall asleep every 2 minutes
>>737678275You're the only one bringing up ethnicity in a game where cat men and bunny girls exist alongside midget elves
>>737678327don't point to OSRS, those guys report their numbers openly
How bad is the 7.1 to 7.5 story? If I came back for 8.0 I'd have to play through it.
>>737678124RPR's gauge spender is just slightly different flavor of MCH's. If you think MCH is one of the most involved jobs in the game and RPR is braindead you clearly haven't played either.
>>737678372You are a homosexual man and I refuse to engage with you further
>>737678268now post the same thing but her brother
>>7376783797.1.-.2 is HORRENDOUS7.3 is half good half shit7.4 is good
>>737678318No, the issue with Hiroi is that he has no regard for the setting or pre-established lore so he ends up just writing random nonsense that contradicts things as they were. He writes an entire void arc where none of the previously known major players are even mentioned at all, and tries to retread big moments from ShB all the while ignoring the major characters from it who had huge connections to the void.
>>737678379Only the end of 7.4 is worth paying attention to since it has nothing to do with DT.
>>737678379imagine the underwear of a homeless man. that's the experience
>off tank
>>7376783797.1 is going to be a nightmarish first taste because it's virtually all filler and exists to cap off random bullshit from the MSQ for side characters.
>>737678351You're not talking to one person bud, I never brought up any such thing. It's also hilarious that you think the concept of "white saviour" is actually tied to race rather than the actual historical concept, which is much more widely applicable.Like how fucking stupid are you? Did you really think the concept was named entirely literally?
>>737678241People who don't want to play with MCH are always petty retards who think the world is going to end if they can't min-max everything all the time. I main MCH because I love making autismals cry at the fact that I don't have to "stay in my lane",and I literally never have to stop moving.
>>737678380RPR feels significantly slower than MCH and there's less cooldowns to keep track of and you don't even really need to worry about positionals either because you can True North them.
>>7376783797.1 is indeed shit but .2 is inoffensive, 7.3 is good and is a return to form imo. 7.4 is the best one. 7.1 is worse than the void shit. .2 is a little better, .3 is way better.
>>7376783797.1 is a goodbye to Koana, 7.2-3 is a Solution Nine villain and payoff for it, 7.4 is beginning of Evercold set-up
evertr00n
>is irrelevant in her own expac
>>737678420I can't believe Hiroi wrote an entire area to emotionally manipulate the player (as theater kids are wont to do) when that could've easily been fixed if he actually played the game
everpoop
>>737678379They're each progressively better than the last, but that honestly isn't very hard. I didn't mind 7.1 as much as other people seemed to, but that's because little nigger Gulool Ja was unironically my favorite DT character.
>>737678529They did her dirty.Couldn't even use the earring her parents left her with, a fucking lizard kid had to use it.
>>737678540But also: Soul aether (lol) zombies are bad and should be turned off because they're definitely not alive in any way!
Can I use NPCs for the MSQ trials in DT? I don't feel like playing as a reborncuck anymore, just trying to finish the MSQ before 8.0
>>737678570Somehow that race in general was top tier.Dawnservant was a top tier fight whoreLittle dude was top tier growthHis dad was a top tier fucking retardAnd, of course, the blessed siblings were just top tier in general.
>no cross dressing alphinaud picsDead thread
>>737678598shit argument from years ago dug up like grandma's corpse, we really are spinning the gears for material here
>>737678286I dunno man. I find the claim believable. > Obscure realms still had large population> You literally never waited for dungeon que to pop, especially as a tank and that was before level sync solutions to mitigate it.> Even my normie friend who couldn't care less about MMOs gave WoW a try up till Cata> Back then Blizzard hired enough GMs to even do your math homework via ticket system because things were just going so smooth> They had so much money to throw they could do stupid shit like Mr. T's Night Elf Mohawk Grenade that made some Blood Elf players cry like little bitches.> Not to mention tons of TV commercials where they could hire celebrities like Chuck Norris, Ozzy Osbourne, William Shatner, Van Damme and god knows how many more.All that shit had to cost good money and 12 million subscribers sounds like it would cover the bill.
>>737678631Only some of them.
>>737678652What argument? The writing of that whole plotline was absurdist dogshit, that's pretty much the unanimous conclusion unless you're some manner of illiterate contrarian.
>>737676742W-what did I win?
>>737678670FFXIV was doing similar stuff in the shadowbringers and endwalker days at 1m subs or fewer, WoW should have never been allowed to slip out of the public consciousness if they were ever truly at 12m
>>737678671Shit, oh well, thanks.
>>737678650I'm pretty sure the last gay alphinaudfag killed himself along with the last gay grahafag ITT. Only faggot that still post in this thread is homestock and the illberd tranny.
>>737678717Yeah, like Fortnite it would never lose it's popularity... oh wait.
>no dating scionsThe devs aren't desperate enough
>>737676787>that anon that would post that he's "going to experience another life changing event" soonShit made me laugh every time
>>737678739no that isn't my point, my point is they didn't need 12m subs to give 80s TV stars a paycheck, they could have done that at or around a million subs without even thinking about it financially
>>7376786317.2 and 7.4 need humans. I think all the others have npcs available.
>>737678717Care to name and enumerate those things?
>>737678750Don't worry, you'll trade a few barbs and princess carry a scion of your unwitting choice after they get injured
>>737674587Wrath combos
>>737676787He is perfectly safe, inside a closet with a desk and a chair being left to stare at the wall until he goes insane or quits
>>737678775Sure, but that does nothing to really refute the idea that they had 12m subs at one point. You just kind of handwaved that other anon's claim.
>>737678750The grandma in the trailer is her. She's going to settle down with the 4th's Magnai and there's nothing you can do about it.
Dawntrans
>Kate fired >Susan Calloway name dropped by KojiCould she be unblacklisted?
So did they actually fix healers yet? Why am I even bothering to ask at this point...
>>737673830Ah yes the same team that was unable to make Normal Forked Tower and BLU updateYou're getting exploited by professional marketers
>>737678750I want to date Khloe and Tkebbe
>>737673830>shadowbringers but with snowYeah, he sure saved it alright.
>FFXIV: Evolved
>>737678858what the hell do you mean it does nothing to refute the idea, this started out from me saying that their ad campaigns and financeering don't really support their own claim of ever having 12m online players
>>737678867I bet it’ll be something like the Y’shtola from G’raha’s doomed timeline did her own research to shard travel and made it to the Fourth, maybe before G’raha woke up?. And from there she got old until (You) arrived in 8.0. There will be the proposal to gift her memories to our Y’shtola, but she’ll reject it.
>>737678286I played during Wotlk. I was on a high pop server, but not the most populated, and I would say that cities had about as many people as Balmung Ul'dah, and that at night when everyone was asleep, the cities were about as populated as my XIV world is at its most populated. LuckyBancho numbers are wrong because they're based on Lodestone achievements, but if XIV is "only" 770k, then I'd say that Wotlk was at least double that, maybe triple. I would believe 2-3m easily based on XIV's numbers. I haven't seen all of XIV's DCs though, and I don't remember how many servers WoW had at the time, nor do I know how populated they all were.
>>737676787Japanese companies don't fire people usually they just give them shittier and shittier work until they quit
>>737678970That sounds about right. WoW did have insane numbers, Yoshi-P has mentioned that’s a peak that’ll be impossible to reach, even for FF14.
>>737675676SAM has only been improved since launch in 4.0, unironically.
>>737678969>There will be the proposal to gift her memories to our Y’shtola, but she’ll reject it.>tfw you will never drink Y'sthola alzabo soup
>Kate fired>Johnathan bailey fired>Sena firedWe're...going home.
>>737678964You know what? I'd play a PSO/PSP2 style spinoff of XIV. Just side story shit of lower tier characters without Echo trying to survive their way through whatever crap the bigger heroes aren't fixing.
>>737679036just play insect glaive in monster hunter, they've already cribbed so much from dragoon it's nuts
>>737678913https://www.youtube.com/live/_aCGzxWczCM?si=mbTts2KRduxYe1ZT&t=24693
>>737679027>being the poster child wet dream for raid trannies 2 minute meta>improvedSAM is the gayest fucking job in the entire game and it's not particularly close
>>737679027>Retard that never played the game.
>return after quitting in 6.1>they made glam dresser hold 800 items>except some items can be turned into a set to only hold one slot>potentially making the dresser hold over 1k itemsHoly neato
>(((influencers))) all gassing up the game now after waiting to see what the safe opinions to have wereYou don't hate them enough.
>>7376791097.5 is making a metric fuckton of more stuff into outfit glamours too, literally all dungeon sets after 3.0 and dawntrail dungeon sets + all artifact armors can be stored in the armoire
>>737679047Well MH did crib DNA straight from PSO as the devs admitted early on, so not a big surprise how that turns out towards FF too.>PS has done two separate Eva collabsof fuckin course
>>737678969And I realized that’s just Shadowbringers.
>>737678964>>737679036I would kill for an actual PSO successor.
>>73767912890% of my glam dresser is just job gear. You mean to tell me this tuesday ill be able to dump all this shit into my armoir and just use my glam dresser for literally everything else?
>>737679125distinctly remembering this br*t having the hardest time stomaching dawntrail and w*kit got so bad to the point where his fat retard minion had to stomp in and start screaming at chat for being chuddy bigots for not slurping w*k at all times
>>737679130MH didn't crib DNA it is straight up a copy, gets super obvious if you play either bowgun or the bowinsect glaive didn't start as a dragoon weapon but it very much became one after world when they did the XIV crossover and behemoth and added drachen armor and gae bolg. weapon was introduced to take complete advantage of 4U on 3DS introducing a lot more verticality to maps by letting you jump and mount monsters easily and then turned into a flying weapon come world and outright added a pouncing spear dive in iceborne. rise added a really meaty spear-dive, "diving wyvern"
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>>737679034>>Johnathan bailey firedThey can't afford him anymore now that he is a Hollywood actor
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>>737679109>>except some items can be turned into a set to only hold one slot>>potentially making the dresser hold over 1k itemsThis is actually a piece of shit addition, because if you store the items as an "outfit", you can't save dyes to them. So if you like expensive dyes like Pure White or Jet Black, or if you have no gil, the Outfit thing is just a scam. And even if you don't care about losing dyes, the only use Outfits are is to store glams that you don't use... which begs the question why do you even have them?
>>737679162Fuck S Red blades. So much busy work for level 3 buffs.
>>737679213At least dyes are changing...
>>737679226Necessary for solo speedruns though. (not my gameplay)
>>737679212Fucking christ this solves all my issues.>>737679213If im dumping all my job gear into my armoir then I dont need the outfit tabs for anythinf other than shring-wrapping items I "might" glamor. Otherwise with 800 slots I can just take out what I want, dye it, then save as normal.
>>737677234SOVL
>>737679251>white/black/metallics all excludeddamn
>Still no glam overhaul.
>>737679276yea storing a piece separately from the outfit is an OK compromise for outfit glamours not letting you store a super expensive dye. at absolute worst, you use the glamour dresser the same way you did before. it'll make most sense with artifacts like samurai's first one or gunbreaker's first one where the chestpiece makes up 90% of the outfit and is the only piece you really need to dye, so that can stay in the dresser while the rest of the outfit + its undyed original as an extra can stay in the armoire
>>737678469This, unironically. I'm actually kind of pleased at all these changes because fuck most "hardcore" players of this game. They will SAY that they want the game to be dynamic and intricate, but what they really want is to be the gatekeepers of a "number go up" philosophy. Anything that fucks with them is welcome in my book
So they're doing neat changes I want to see more of, great. Maybe it's not all it's hyped to be, maybe it is, we'll have to see that play out.But none of it tackles my personal problem of "fuck stat stick gear".
>>737674012I've been shitting on the dev over many of their decisions for a decade. I'm not banned anywhere. People like you are as bad as the shills.
Reminder that with the 2 min meta dead, skill/spell speed could because a real stat since you no longer have to care about buff misalignment.
If there's cross-DC PF will we also be able to send /tell cross-DC?
>>737679337Im just happy that I dont need to pay for a 3rd retainer just to hold all my unsellable level 1 cosmetics and job gear I couldn't shove into the dresser. I was getting pissed off trying to organize things and was paying for 4 extra retainers at one point for extra storage. If theres one thing I hate about 14 over WoW is that wow has near unlimited storage and the transmog is 10x better
>>737679425>suddenly speed stats become the optimal because everyone wants to counter GCD and cast timers as much as possibleHell maybe in general there's an actual RPG in my fucking RPG.
>>737679420>But none of it tackles my personal problem of "fuck stat stick gear".Universal item level is nice. You don't even have to care about your stat stick gear anymore really.
I hate /vg/ so I don't wanna look myselfHow are the modbeast tranny faggots, eboys/girls and fatasses taking the announcements?
>Dancing Mad is 10 minutesSo how many phases is Kefka even going to have?
So did they fix healers yet?Have they gotten rid of the retarded gathering timers yet?Did they fire Hiroi yet? (preferably out of a cannon)Did they remove the buffstack meta yet?Did they change the fact that every patch is the exact same gear treadmill yet?
>>737679492Kyoppi is shitting is diaper, everyone else is laughing at him. Same as it ever was.
>>737679492Why the fuck would you care about those retards? Fuck off back to your containment board.
>>737678479Reaper is a lot more gauge negative than machinist, any mistake or fucked up boss mechanic or downtime at all makes them the most annoying job to optimize in the entire rebornfag era. You clearly haven't played any job beyond dungeon tier level bro if you think reaper is "braindead"
>>737678876Christ if she comes back I'll be overjoyed. Answers is still such a beautiful song.
>>737679482I know that part, yeah that is really nice. But I guess it's more just how boring loot is unless you're out for glams. The relic is a testament to the fact that of how pointless it all is since you're slowly growing a proverbial death stick that's ultimately outdated and useless, providing ZERO unique benefits unless newer stat alignments actually matter now in their customization phases. Maybe the fundamental changes to game design will make those customizations actually really relevant now, but as is you do the hardest content in the game for the cred/ego, the glam or the item level and that's it. Can't make a sword or spear or staff do cool things that actually separate them from each other.
>>737679519https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6UgxJtHIVY
>>737679564Sorry that I offended you, RPR main.
>>737679560>fat ugly /vg/ reject retard tranny meltyJust what I was looking for, you fucking faggotFuck off back to your containment board, loser
>>737679614>Tranny is illiterate and spergs out while projectingWhy is this so common?
>>737675824crazy how he went from random video game magazine writer to now being in charge of flavour for literally every job in ff14
>>737673830>>737673975>saved the gameCalling it way too early morons, and YoshitPiss is literally responsible for ALL of the crap in Dawntrail you stupid fucking faggots.
>>737679613All good, I just like educating people who get all their opinions from reddit and don't actually play the jobs at more than a cursory level
>>737679679You will probably never educate anyone about anything, anon.
>>737679637>/vg/ retard is a tranny faggot and spergs out while projectingWhy is this so common?
>>737675516Yeah discussion online is impossible, everyone is a disingenuous contrarian lying faggot and no one actually has an opinion of their own, they just parrot whatever's the current narrative, or the opposite because reasons.
As a DRG main i’m hype and can’t wait to try it out in january
I miss when Koji gave a shit. When he literally had half a fucking job questline speak in 16th century thieves cant or based all the naming conventions on a book from 1478. It made the game much smarter.
>>737678750>pictures of the scions were everywhere in the fanfest area>by far the most cosplayed Scion was Y'stholaMaybe, just maybe the will get the idea that people like these characters, despite dipshits in these threads always screaming about the opposite.
>>737679469Its probably still worthless on some jobs. But I can definitely see the fast ones like MNK wanting to stack it.
>>737679704Well I just educated you because you're fucking completely wrong and no one has considered reaper "braindead" since 6.0 when it first launched and they were wrong then too. It's the same retarded opinions that "more buttons = more difficulty!" ignoring all the mini games within the job itself and the actual fights and how they really play in real use.
>>737679752People from here bitched it wasn't 1:1 JP translation so he stopped, buoyant isn't a word in Japanese.
>>737673830>Tfw I was there for when Yoshida caused 42% of the fanbase to disappear.
>>737678379You can skip up to 7.5. Let me fill you in>green aura girl is an ascian>she works with a nerd kid that we beat up in the previous patchesEverything else in the past 2 years of patch MSQ was utterly irrelevant.
>>737679752You won't be surprised who wrote the thieves guild.
>>737673830I'll believe it when I see Evolved Scholar gameplay.
>>737679805>buoyant isn't a word in Japanese.The fuck? How do they describe buoyancy then?
>>737679805The Japanese have blue traffic lights because they don't have a word for "green", so they are inferior by design
>>737679564Maybe not braindead, but Reaper is incredibly simple to play in its current stateThe only thought process is hold or use for your gauge depending on if you will have enough or overcap for your 2m window, that's not thought intensive at allThe problem I have with Reaper is that it's love/hate for me in its current stateSometimes it's just annoying to play
>>737679791>Well I just educated youYou didn't. You melted down and you're still melting down.
>>737679867no u
>actually found people to do CLL with>the bozja story is actually really neat>CLL is actually shit you can do with a pickup groupWhy is Occult such a fucking shitshow? Why did they do back to Eureka style raid content and shitty non-story?
>>737679815I bet I won't. Why did /ourgirl/ get "promoted" so that shittier writers could take over? Why are SE always doing this shit?
>>737679894OC is like the worst parts of Eureka mixed with the worst parts of Bozja. It's inferior to both of them.
>>737678913They are making Evolved White Mage even easier play, throwing out lines like "great for first-time players", "damage is instant now so it doesnt interfer with your healing" and "we heard you didnt like Glare spam so now the animation changes on every second cast." I shit you not.
>>737679745looks slow and repetitive
>>737679745That actually looks fun
>>737679805>>737679854Are you fucking retarded? 浮力 literally means "Floating Power". And 緑 is the word for green.
>>737679913>Why did /ourgirl/ get "promoted" so that shittier writers could take over? Why are SE always doing this shit?Anon, have you ever had a real job before? That's how all companies work. People are in a position only long enough to gain competency, then they are promoted. That's why everything universally sucks. There is a constant revolving door of base level competency occurring at all companies all the time.
>>737679894They unironically thought DR being so accessible was a bad thing, then got their teeth kicked in when everyone fucking hated OC.
>>737679865I feel like you just described every job currently, because every job atm is incredibly simple to execute I personally base difficulty mostly on how they feel to use in conjunction with fights themselves, and it's annoying as hell compared to many other jobs.
I honestly can't wait for this new evolved shit. I have played this on a controller for like 3 years now and refuse to go back, so it's gonna be excellent having fewer pointless chaff inputs to have to figure out spaces for.Now all I need is an auto-target for rez' and it's perfect
>>737679918To be fair by Final Fantasy standards it's accurate. White Mage is and has always been the basic bitch vanilla white bread healer that heals really good and maybe has some holy magic or killing undead, but you simply do not do much more with them except in FF1 where you can plausibly equip them with one of the ultimate melee weapons of the game and not be totally shit with it. In terms of job identity, WHM is and always will be basic bitch healer.
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>>737679916I have a hard time seeing where Eureka was better than Bozja other than the zones being much prettier.
>>737679854>>737679957Japan used the same word for blue and green until like 1000 ad.
>>737676492>Muuuuuh CultJeez, that's a one I haven't seen in a while
>>737679894Casuals complained about Bozja, they complained that people "sat around in base" too much, that they HAD to do the relic there, and that bozjan actions costing money was evil and so mean!So this is what we get>Not enough fates>Forced to travel to CE locations....>...But they lowered the zone player cap so there is no incentive to need to do that anyway>PH jobs suck and their actions are not fun>No essences so you are forced to play tank or healer unless you are in a party>No CLL equivalent
>>737679745I still think the eye gauge was betteridk why they didn't add it to thisand I don't understand why filler combos even exist now that they are not combos, could have cut them and added something else as fillerI'm for sure gonna separate it so it feels better, spamming the same filler buttons is just gonna feel like playing wow.
>>73767998490% of what ruins Reaper is the 2m window so we will see what they will do with itThe kit itself isn't too bad as it is now, I can see the different plays you could make without having to buffmaxx everything in the kit
>>737679959I like how you have to claim that all companies are shit because this one company is shit.
>>737679865I think everyone's different, I also found RPR pretty irritating and difficult to use just based on the pressure of having to execute or missing your burst in buffs or even the fight itself entirely while playing something like MNK felt like an absolute cakewalk to me.
>>737680049Logos > jobsNeeding to spawn NMs > CEsbunnies > pots that no one can ever getThe worst part of OC is that only one thing can occur at a time, so you need to have bot-level reaction times to even make it to a FATE before it's gone. CEs are the only part of OC that is better than Eureka.
>>737680009You know whats even more basic? Conjurer. The answer for them is right there, just buff the spells. Make it super simple to use and call it "Great for first time healers." I don't even play WHM and even I notice how quick people are to throw it under the bus.
>>737680092God dammit, of course I unknowingly replied to a schizo. I'm just telling you how the world works because you clearly aren't aware. This is not some "defend Square Enix at all costs" bullshit. When they found something that worked, they shouldn't have changed it, that's just how companies work though.
>>737674782Don't like this? then your wrong!
>>737680127>SE should tell new player to not use their job stone
FUARKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNHg8fK1V1I
>>737680168>every company is bad because the one I am defending is bad>every person who disagrees with me is a schizoholy solipsism
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>>737680228You are a schizo who has never had a job.
>>737679918I don't mind that too much, FFXIV design was peak when jobs were different enough that one healer was super easy and the other had a fuckton of minmaxing you could do if you wanted actual skill expression. So long as they don't make every healer's gameplay basically the same but with a slightly different coat of paint I'll be happy. (but they won't)
>>737680127???You realize Conjurer IS the training wheels to become White Mage, right? Like, no, no one's gonna turn off their job stone, what are you smoking? Would you tell someone they should buff Gladiator and make Paladin separately balanced?
>>737680052Most of the world's languages worked like that, though. Language only evolves when specificity is actually required.
>>737679661I mean, it took him 13 years.
>>737680263You're a retard who makes sweeping generalisations to defend his indefensible positions due to some kind of grating contrarianism
>>737680068Bozja was just braindead trains nigger, stop pretending it was some peak experience.
>>737680113I'm still irked they put so much effort into the zones for crafters in Cosmic exploration and the OC zone is so shit.The OC FATEs are pretty fun when they get to use their mechanics, they are less on rails than the CEs which get a bit boring after a few times.at least forked tower blood as good
>>737679894Have fun with DRN. Be advised: It will spawn after 10 minutes no matter what and you will most likely have a solo instance. However, unless you are max level, have a disgusting lost holster loadout and 2 hours to spare you will not be able to do this. I have no idea why they let solo players enter this thing.
>>737675975>>737677771NOOOOOOOOOO MY NARRATIVE. AIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>737680353No it certainly wasn't, if you were there to level you ran circles in the norther part of Zadnor but for people who were playing normally you were all over. Fates weren't limited to one at a time, there were multiple up at all times in all regions of the map. It was also FAR more fun because of bozjan actions and essences.
>>737679894Dev complacency.
The devs love Forked Tower, but they would never, ever, under any circumstances allow people to access it
>>737680337I was trying to explain to you how the world works. It was in no way a defense of Square Enix, but you're a schizo.
>>737680423>Things that never actually happened outside this one anon's imaginationCool.
>>737680502
>>737680531>accused of generalising>respond with "I was trying to explain to you how the world works"are you serious?
>>737680562What are you even mad about? What "indefensible position" do you think I even hold? All I did is tell you, truthfully, that all companies promote people basically as soon as they become competent in their role, so that all companies everywhere are full of people competent people moving away from their position of competency into a new position where they must again work to become competent.
fino fanta won...?
>he's a blu cuckbrutal
Why do ffxiv players smell like shit?
>>737679583My best case scenario for (realistic) gear is essentially the following:>Gear stays mostly the same stat wise>Tertiary stats gets a re-balance to give them more impact on overall playstyle>Melds now play a larger role in gearing and Relic (job) gear is turned into the same thing as relic weapons>Relic gear is essentially just normal gear but with no tertiary stats and with an ever increasing ilvl and with much higher limits on melds along more slots for them that keep increasing as you level it up>We get weapons with minor unique modifiers akin to "Clemency applies regen when it hits target/Holy Spirit applies DoT when it hits target", "Attacks have a chance to instantly unlock/reset your jobs signature action", "Chaotic cyclone gets a set chance to crit (double crit)", "Your next successful parry/directional applies/unlocks all actions/buffs that all other successful directional would have given and are now easier to land", etc that drops from all combat content>Relic weapons unlock these unique effects as you keep leveling them up and eventually you will have unlocked all effects at max expansion ilvl, allowing you to pick and choose which ones you want whenever your in a town>Each expansion gets their own modifiers and if you don't want to grind your relic you can always just get the weapons with said modifiers through drops or the new "season" reward systemThis is probably the closest we will get to them messing with the gearing system again since they obviously don't want gear to be anything more than a secondary leveling system with what they have shown off so far, at most they will probably use normal gear as a "generalist" set that every encounter is balanced around while relics could be used as a way for players to express themselves but otherwise be about as useful as any other types of gear.
>>737680668All nerd gatherings smell like shit, and ones where there are girls present smell even worse.
>>737676376It's gonna be Brits again, I think, Kate and the location of where Dawntrail was set and both gone so...
>>737675495I don't know why they've never taken the Field Ops idea and applied it to the core of an expansion in each of its field zones.
>>737680634>all companies>all companies everywhereThat is just not true though. It's true for SE, and it's in large part why they are failing, but even in the gaming industry, it's fairly easy to point to people who stay in the same position for decades. Most companies do not to do this. But you have to pretend they ALL do, because you're invested in this argument for whatever reason. Probably some misplaced fanaticism, I dunno. And to defend it you have to make wild claims that I have never had a job, or don't know what a company is, or don't speak English or whatever the fuck.calm down.
>>737680634NTA but that's such an absurdly generalised and mischaracterising summation of how you *think* things work that the only substantive thing you've accomplished here is make yourself look like a complete fucking moron.You act as though this is as true for a five man company as it is for a conglomerate with thousands of employees, as though promotions aren't a limited quantity, as though people don't get stuck in dead-end jobs with no prospects of promotion, or that you can get promoted out of a manufacturing job because you're "competent" at assembly.TL:DR; You're both retarded, but you went so far beyond full retard that other anon actually looks sensible by comparison.
>>737679745So Wyrmwind thrust is now like Uncoiled Fury
>>737680809Yes.
>>737680741>tells me to "calm down" after I ask him what he's mad aboutkek. You didn't explain what you were mad about. >>737680745>You act as though this is as true for a five man company as it is for a conglomerate with thousands of employeesObviously a company where there are 5 people is not going to promote someone as soon as they become competent because there is nowhere to promote them to, and likely no one to take their place when they are promoted out. Forgive me for assuming that things this simple didn't need to be explicitly stated.
>>737679989BASED PADCHAD
>>737679745Do we have versions of these for PLD, WHM, and BRD?
Apparently Koji got siphoned off to write the lyrics to Foamstars songs?That honestly makes me really sad if so>>737680668Makes me sick to think these people go multiple days without showering, grossShower every day or bust
>>737680846>You didn't explainI did. Maybe you can't understand it. Either way, you're incapable of holding this conversation to a satisfactory standard, I think.
Is there any way to know which of the old gear sets got texture overhaul?
>>737680903You still didn't even attempt to explain what you are mad about, anon.
>>737680668Anyone else intentionally goon then coom on yourself a few times before walking outside and subjecting people to your squid smell?
>>737680904Yeah, use these
>>737680553You clearly didn't do bozja when it was current, you probably started it in EW and think the people doing loops in zadnor represent how everyone played it.
holy these threads are fast now.even got the resident doomposter and maybe folder kun back
>>737681025>even got the resident doomposter and maybe folder kun backThey never left, they just got drowned out by activity.
You would think someone growing up a potential heir to the throne would have been educated about all aspects of society. Instead we had to run around learning about how bartering works. I learned that shit in runescape when I was 7.
>>737680957>You clearly didn't do bozja when it was currentThis seems to be the whole problem with XIV. So much content is basically inaccessible now, and nobody is ever going to be able to play it.I started this game 4 years ago, and still haven't done so much of it because it's just dead. Sad.
>>737681150Nothing about Tural seems to work when you think about it for two minutes.
>>737680885Brd
>>737681151Did you reply to the wrong post? You seem lost.
>>737681151>I started this game 4 years ago, and still haven't done so much of it because it's just dead.This game does have the problem of needing to do the content when it's current or else waiting for forever to fill groups and/or getting stuck with shitters, but what can't you do? The only thing you really miss out on is being able to do Savage on content or Ultimates before they get powercrept. Everything else is still doable, you just miss out on "lore", like how zones such as Eureka and Bozja used to function when they were first released.
>>737680885Whm
>>737681192It works from the perspective of an estrogen-frazzled menopausal middle-aged woman, who is the main target audience of XIV>anyone can be the ruler if they're NICE enough>a whole race of merchants whose sole focus is to make FAIR AND NICE DEALS for EVERYONE>cute kitties tee hee just like my own mister WUFFLEZwuk lamat even as the neoteny cat face because it biologically affects women by reminding them of children.
>>737680885Pld
>>737681231>what can't you do?In theory, everything is still there. Good luck finding anyone to do Bozja or Eureka stuff without sitting in PF for hours (and having hours to just sit around waiting). Practically, it's impenetrable.
>>737681260lol even Naruto had to wait for years before he could become the seventh hokage despite being a literal jesus figuremeanwhile wukmao got literally everything handed over to her on a fucking golden platter in the span of months at best
>>737681330>Good luck finding anyone to do Bozja or Eureka stuff without sitting in PF for hours (and having hours to just sit around waiting).Huh? You can do Bozja and Eureka stuff just fine. There *is* DR(normal) that you need to do before going into Zadnor iirc, and that is probably horrible to try to get a group for, but everything else should be fine. You can duo CLL and Dalriada because Echo scales based on the amount of people who are in it. And there are Discords for BA and DRS (that's how people do Forked Tower too)
>>737681209>>737681238>>737681270ty!
>>737681260>biologically affects women by reminding them of childrenA lot of teaching moments in DT would have made much more sense if Wuk had been an actual child. She could be a young, clueless, and unprepared but forced participant to the succession war because the other candidates are mega assholes or something. Instead she's a retarded womanchild.
>>737681227>Did you reply to the wrong post?No I replied to a post where you said (albeit to someone else) "You didn't do bojza when it was current" and "you probably started in EW"I then stated that I started with EW, and didn't do bojza when it was current. And that it's sad how inaccessible it is now. I literally replied to your points directly
>>737681404>Huh? You can do Bozja and Eureka stuff just fine.>just join a discordew
>>737676376It was Brit VAs in the trailer and it's going to be Viking themed so I'm guessing it'll be a mix between Brits and Scandinavians just like Shadowbringers.
>>737679920It's actually faster
>>737681467That's the experience you missed out on though. Joining a Discord for organized groups for it.
>>737681404NTA but I have been trying to get people to do Baldesion Arsenal for like 2 years now. Nobody wants to do it because it sucks, and it's like...what, 56-man? Come on now
>when i have to interact with other people to do a large scale raid in a massively multiplayer online role playing game
>>737681546You join a Discord. Same for DRS, same for Forked Tower.
>>737681546Sorry anon. I did it once for the tranny marble and will never touch that shit again. Everyone except the power tripping discord fags gatekeeping it feel the same way.
>>737681553>mfw I have to join an organized raid to do the organized raid right(it requires communication and specific roles)
>>737681553>"Just organised nearly 60 people to do content they don't want to at a time that suits you, and hope that enough of them don't fuck about or leave, then hope this group of disparate weirdos do it right first time or they'll get bored and leave anyway"
>>737681415So you completely misunderstood the post you were replying to and made up a problem in your head to get mad at and post about.Bozja is not inaccessible, you can zone in and do literally everything right now. The discussion was about HOW people play it, because it's a leveling zone unlike Eureka and OC there is a crowd that plays it in a very specific way, to gain EXP for their real jobs and not to maximize other gains within the zone. The other anon (you, let's be honest here) was confused because they joined Bozja late and saw this behavior and thought that was the only way to play.
>>737681414they should have made wuk young until that part where you go into the purple dome and she's an adult when you come back.but then we'd have to deal with the passage of time and shit and the devs don't like that that much.i think all of endwalker took place in a week or something i don't remember.
>>737681638>>"Just organised nearly 60 people to do contentShe's got it
>>737681613I understand. People that I really get on with in the game and actually like have told me that they would "probably" join in if I were to find like..40 other people (impossible), but they wouldn't really WANT to, and would just be doing it as a favour.
>>737681638The trooncord does the organizing for you and if retards grief they get unpersoned.
Do the Dawntrail relics look like shit?Was it another boring tomestone hand in like EW?
>>737674012And you honestly think no other game devs had done this? I side with the laugh gif.
>>737681613>Everyone except the power tripping discord fags gatekeeping itTo be fair, they aren't "gatekeeping", they are ENABLING it. Without them, you'd never get a BA group unless you were a streamer.
>>737681706Looks are subjective but the relic steps are the worst they've ever conceived, it's a poorly thought out one time grind followed by tome turn ins.
>>737681675>>737681689>just sucks tranny groomer cock on discord
>>737681646>So you completely misunderstood the post you were replying to and made up a problem in your head to get mad at and post about.Guy says he started the game 4 years ago and is complaining because he chose not to play it. Unreal.
>>737681765Would you prefer to use IRC? or perhaps sign up on a website? Maybe Twitter or some other social media?Retard.
>>737681765Actually you just queue in with the bot.
>>737681706>Do the Dawntrail relics look like shit?Each step is varying degrees of good depending on which job the weapon is for, like all relic weapons. >Was it another boring tomestone hand in like EW?Hot take, but I was a fan of tomestones. EZPZ. This one is a piece of shit light grind (i.e. Roulette grind) followed by a piece of shit content grind (i.e. Roulette again) grind which enables you to spend tomestones.
>>737681706We're only seen the finished dnc and vpr weapons so far, wait until Tuesday for datamines. It alternates between grindy light farm style shit and 1500 tomestones. But you only have to do the grindy steps once. So for 2nd weapons and beyond its just 6k tomestones. Basically an inbetween of ShB and EW.
>>737681772are you replying to yourself?
>>737681765You don't talk to anyone at all. You get a code from a bot and then you join a private party in PF.
Yoshi...you better deliver on that butt slider. I'm waiting for it. 8.2. You said it.
>>737681849Of course not.
>>737681852>no no don't use PF>you have to join a discord>where a troon's special bot will give you a ticket (lucky!)>then you can use PF
>>737681880>NA playerbase confirmed full of blacks>Only care about buttslider>Not a larger tit sliderYou 'people' are not White.
>>737681909You're even weirder than the trannies, honestly.
>>737681772>Guy says he started the game 4 years ago and is complaining because he chose not to play it. Unreal.most retarded thing I have seen in this thread tee bee aitch
>>737681909How would you propose organizing 48 random people?
>>737681950yeah, I get it. You love trannies and are happy to let them herd you about. Lead you by the nose.
I only want cock slider (on female characters)
>>737681909>organize a million people>oh also, organize a party of people to wait inside the instance, but don't go into BA, so that they can kill a FATE that spawns>all randomly using the in-game PF and not DiscordYou'd never clear.
>>737681981What's the solution that SE the FF14 devs thought of when creating this content? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't to use Discord.
>>737681991I just want to do the content, anon, and I'm a man of action, not a whiny little bitch like you are.
>>737681909You will literally never be happy, you play a MMO but don't want to interact with anyone yet want to do content with other people. Insufferable.
>>737682023gee willy willikers, it's almost like what I said at the beginning. BA is fucking impossible to do now
>>737682036>implying they were thinking at all
>>737682036I played FF11 20+ years ago, guess what we used to form parties and groups for "this content".
>>737682053>BA is fucking impossible to do nowDoing BA is extremely possible. And doing it "naturally" was NEVER possible on NA. Maybe JP, but never NA.
>>737682045>>737682046>no anon you don't understand>you can't just play the game>you HAVE to fellate powertripping trannies on discord
>>737682083Not Discord.
>>737682053>BA is fucking impossible to do nowThere was a run 7 hours ago.
>>737682095>>you HAVE to fellate powertripping trannies on discordYou don't have to interact with anyone at all, anon. You get a code from a bot and join a PF.
>>737682097You used guildworks or bluegartr forums.
>>737682085>"naturally">>737682098>signup method: IYKYK
>whiny bitch who has played the game for 4 years is crying and seething and shaking uncontrollably because trannies have spent the past 4 years systematically oppressing him and disallowing him from playing the game he pays a sub to
>>737682053>BA is fucking impossible to do nowRuns happen almost daily, in fact I see one that happened earlier this very night.
>>737682132>signup method: IYKYKWhat are the next five words?
>>737682128So not Discord
>discordtrannies squirming out of the woodwork to defend their masterspottery
>>737682202>is a sub (to XIV)>gets dommed (by trannies)>cries
