Do we live in an era of decline?
I think we live in the era of whining millennials. I don't think there's ever been a generation that has whined this much before.
>>737678518No (yes)
>>737678518everyone unanimously agrees that things have never been worse
>>737678518it's an era of decline under the guise of an age of progression
>>737678621>unprompted seething about millennials
Of course. The enshittification of everything has happened
>>737678518for a doomscrolling faggot like (you), sure
>>737678518Not really, a lot of people have bad taste and buy and play bad games, but I stick to good ones.
>>737678790>Goycattle
>>737678518We have been for over a decade.
>>737678518Yes, net energy is declining, and as oil becomes harder to extract, net energy will only decline further without some leap in technology or new fuel source discovered. The age of abundance is over.
>>737679723We're actually not quite there yet which is why China is going through an age of abundance right now. What we are dealing with in the west is not the realities of dependence on a dwindling resource but overbearing government trying to force a technological revolution we are still a long way away from through heavy regulation and taxation against "bad tech" and wealth redistribution to "good tech".
>>737678518Technology has advanced so much for the last 16 years. You remember how the world was 16 years ago, and how much we advanced technologically.Ask yourself this, do you know anyone who says life is better now than it was 16 years ago? How about 6 years ago? Was this year better than last year? And the year before that? Despite all our technological advanements, life is not going better.
>>737678518Yes but for longer than you would think.After WW2 the US made a bunch of deals with smaller nations who were heavily damaged by the war in which the US would support them in return for giving the US and its Friends in Europe good deals on all their raw resources.This meant that the flow of cheap resources into the industrialized countries meant that most people were working a decent paying job and earning a good wage, leading to the era of 20th century prosperity in the west.Then starting around the 70s and going into the 80s those smaller countries started rebuilding themselves and started pushing back for better deals, the Oil Shocks of the 70s was the point where things started to gradually go downhill. On top of that those countries became industrialized and were able to do the same jobs for a lower standard of living meaning that all those factory jobs were getting moved overseas speeding up the decline even more.The decline has been happening since, some with high and low points but the gradual cultural trend has been downward and was covered up by gutting programs to pay for bread and circuses and the 08 financial crisis kicked that into high gear despite everyone's best attempts to repair the damage, and caused the decline to speed up drastically.TLDR Eras of Prosperity can only come from taking the shit someone else has for cheap and spreading enough of that out amongst the people to keep them stated. So when you no longer have the shit coming in for cheap. We haven't had shit be cheap for us in decades and its gotten to the point where everyone can feel it.
>>737680050>How about 6 years ago?You mean during the pandemic?Uh, yeah. Shit is better today than then.
>>737678518>Copyright constantly escalated over the course of the 20th century, allowing for the snowballing of major conglomerates that hoovered up all cultural capital>Completely lax use of antitrust, patent due diligence, etc. until it becomes a problem due to to "too big to fail" megacorps now needing to be broken up>Supreme court affirming that your constitutionally guaranteed rights do not matter if a company wants to have EU parity for their copyright, rather than conforming to the US constitution as written>Corporate direction has become almost entirely subordinate to a secondary gambling market due to "Dodge v. Ford", changes to stock trading and executive incentive structures>All talent has been driven out of the videogame market by a succession of booms and busts that treated said talent like minimum wage propsYes.>>737679880The problem is that these eco parties in government are frequently just oil/coal lobby plants or are more obsessed with easy wins so they get re-elected, so instead of lasting progress, they keep pushing for what is essentially a holding pattern where we are ultimately still stuck in subservience to oil and coal while they celebrate shutting down a nuclear reactor because nuclear scary.
>>737679417>unknowingly adopting jewish vernacular and including it in your everyday vocabulary
>>737680101Lmao, were you underage and didnt do your groceries yourself 6 years ago?
>>737678730Nah they don'tFor instance few people would actually choose to swap places with someone who lived hundreds of years ago before the countless comforts of modern technology existed
>>737679723We're also on the verge of feeling the climate consequences of that age of energy abundance. People think things like immigration is bad right now...wait until there's literally billions of climate refugees knocking on the west's doorstep because we made half the planet unlivable. We're heading for the Children of Men future.
>>737678518rhetorical?
>>737680235Yeah yeah, and them rising sea levels are going to put New York underwater
>>737680182Well if it walks, talks, and acts like goycattle...
>>737680226It's kind of a double edged sword, because on one hand it's true that the average quality of life is undoubtedly better than it's ever been before. But at the same time, the large-scale existential threats we face are more serious than ever before, and in fact it's the same systems and technologies that enable the former that also make the latter possible. The technologies that improve our day-to-day lives have an inversely negative potential use. The advancements in chemistry that give us life-saving medicines also enable us to synthesize destructive drugs and perform chemical warfare. The computational powers we've developed to communicate with eachother and have entertainment at the press of a button, also enable totalitarian surveillance systems and the spread of dangerous propaganda. The energy abundance that powers our society is wreaking havoc on the environment and will have consequences for centuries. People don't go to war as often as they used to - but only because the weapons we've developed are literally so horrific and destructive that we're afraid it would end the species. I also doubt many people would willingly give up modern comforts, but to live like this we are walking on a knife's edge, and people are aware of it and that's where this cognitive dissonance comes from that makes us feel something is wrong even though we live daily lives that would put ancient kings to shame.
>>737680378It's very dumb and very dangerous to dismiss something entirely just because aspects of it may have been exaggerated or politicized. I'm not going to have an argument with you about climate change, it's not worth either of our time. But it is real, and it is going to have consequences, even if it doesn't line up precisely with what we've been told along the way.
>>737679543>decade Multiply that by 5 and now you're correct.
>>737680640sounds like cope from someone who is wrong but can't accept it
>>737680182Jews have a lot of experience fleecing, scamming and abusing the retarded non-jews, aka goyim so even the most ardent and staunchest anti-semite has to acknoledge the shortcomings of his own race.What do you even call a gamer who becomes insolvent over microtransactions? a sportsball spectator and barstool sportsfan?goyslop devourer?>>737680235Import more indians and send more trash for filipinx to dump it in the ocean about it.>literally billions of climate refugees.Shoot them or get killed by them, while China goes into space, colonizes mars or whatever.Try terraforming north or south pole, or reforest Sahara desert if you want to fight "climate change".Nuke India and da global souf if you want a long-lasting solution to pollution and overpopulation.
>>737678518we still have consoles dragging us while pc's mechanics are wasted on streamerbaitalso GAAS/live services didn't helped
>>737680947>What do you even call a gamer who becomes insolvent over microtransactions? a sportsball spectator and barstool sportsfan? goyslop devourer?a faggot like everyone has done for the past 25 years before you retards started talking like jews out of irony. it's not ironic anymore. why are you praising jews for for their terms for non-jews? quite being a faggot
>>737680793Only time will tell one of us right. I pray that you are, but sadly I don't believe that you are.
>>737678518Your face is in an era of decline.
>>737681145Because jews are right about the goyim lacking humanity, however you mustn't forget that jews are inbred schizophrenics cursed by God.
>>737678518Yes, I'm entirely convinced this is how the people who inhabited Rome at the time of its decline felt like and witnessed. Just like Rome it's going to be a gradual decline over a hundred years so even if you see the symptoms now, you won't notice the fall itself without a century long insight: the abandonment and depopulation of urban centers for instance as well as the disappearance of a strong centralized authority.
>>737680947I like how you out climate change in quotes to be flippant and act like you don't take it seriously, and yet in the same breath you acknowledge the harm of pollution of countries like india. you can't help but reveal that you DO believe in climate change to at least some extent, you just don't want to take any of the responsibility for it. it's easier to avoid looking inward at what you and your own country is doing and just offload the blame somewhere else so you don't have to care. and the terraforming thing....you can't just pin all your hopes to magic technology that we might one day develop in the future. that's just another way of relieving yourself of blame. "it's not my problem, people will deal with it in the future". we can use technology in the future to start reversing some of the harm we've already done, but we need to stop doing harm first. >Nuke India and da global souf if you want a long-lasting solution to pollution and overpopulationI mean sure. give me the nuclear codes.
>>737678518Yeah, and it's just gonna get worse
>>737679723>>737680640The problem is that climate change is very clearly (and mostly) a natural occurrence and researchers and medias have been exposed time and again claiming that it was solely caused by human activities, and clamoring for things like carbon taxes which puts further financial burdens on the poor while the rich remain completely unaffected and keep flying around the world in private jets. So common people are pissed off and rejecting all of it for good reason.
>>737678518Every facet of every single person's life has been in stark decline since the early 00s.
It has certainly been interesting since 2024, when all these $200mil games that were in production for 6+ years suddenly realized they don't have an audience.
>>737682139Climate changing is something that's part of life, you're going to what, ban plastic straws so spots on the sun don't explode emitting extra radiation?Are you going to scream bloody murder because summer ends?Blow up 5g towers to stop global cooling, like Polish peasants believed in 1920s?Can you kill yourself for the net zero emission goals?
>>737682239>The problem is that climate change is very clearly (and mostly) a natural occurrenceNot at all. The climate does change naturally, yes, but it is currently changing on a magnitude several times faster than it ever has in Earth's history. The planet is warming tens of times faster than it did during an extinction event that killed more than 80% of species on the planet. It's not just the fact that the climate is changing, or how much it's changing, it's how fast it's changing, and it's abundantly clear that we are the cause of that considering it lines up exactly with our history of emissions beginning with the industrial revolution. You ARE right that the rich are staving their responsibility off onto the masses, and that is a serious problem, and I get why people are upset and frustrated about that and might feel an urge to just say fuck the whole thing and ignore it. But that's not a conductive attitude towards solving anything, unfortunately. We have to hold those people accountable, and that still requires people to care.
Only western shlomo occupied nations are in decline after being looted by jews for decades, these nations are sucked dry now so they have to get more aggressive about robbing the little that's left
>>737678518Not really. I like having convenient things like pulling out my phone and seeing what’s going on across all spectrums of the world with a tap, enjoying AC conditioning in my house, going to the grocery story to grab some stuff, and chatting with friends and family fairly easily.Couldn’t imagine being born like a thousand years ago and having to deal with being a fucking illiterate, nutrient-deficient, peasant who has to go to war because his king called him to, and to die while prince chad enjoys the luxuries I enjoy (and I was thankfully born in a more well off family anyway, so I live in luxury and peace).
I'd say yes, and not even because of how bad things are now, but how nothing ever shows any signs of improving. If anything, the current vector seems to be only getting more set in stone by the day.
>>737678518don't worry it's gonna get worse real fast
>>737680182While their power dies, mine will FLOURISH. Kikes will never inherit my language, for I am making their language MINE. And soon the world will be free for my shitposts again!You'll see, they'll come to desire my magic. I swear, upon that meme library. Source of all my power. So be it. Farewell. Can't you feel TelAviv turning in mine direction already?
>>737684440correlation does not equal causation chud
>>737680557/threadif you ever speak to boomers about what they consider "hard" they will talk about public transport and needing to walk to places like it was torture, then they all basically admit to getting rich through comitting casual crimes and workplace theft daily that you could NOT getr way with in the mdoern age due to surveillance, if you did what the boomers did, you would have a criminal record so long that you would never get hired for anything (and let's not even get into the how they think you can get a job "by firmly shaking the managers hand and demanding they hire you!")
>>737678518We need a new holocaust. Can't have breads and circuses if the bread tastes like shit and the circus acts are gay and lame.
>>737684715The average medieval peasant worked less hours in the day and had more holiday than us, combined with cleaner air and the ability to commit crimes easilyit's not as bad as you think, you are just conditioned by propaganda to make it seem like they lived in a perpetual hellhole so that you don't complain as much about how trash modern life has become
>>737678518 Looks like india
>>737685423>this nonsense againYou might look up what passed as "free time" for a peasant. It was just lesser chores aroun the homestead. If you weren't breaking your back on the fields, that counted as free time.
>>737684440>but it is currently changing on a magnitude several times faster than it ever has in Earth's history. The planet is warming tens of times faster than it did during an extinction event that killed more than 80% of species on the planet.I don't believe that, I don't believe that because researchers need to make significant leaps of faith to classify and interpret million years old geological data, I also don't believe that because these same researchers are the ones who have been caught previously manipulating this same data, and finally I don't believe it because researchers NEVER EVER point their fingers at billionaires and giant corporations, it's always the average Joe who's an absolute monster because he failed to discriminate between PVC and vinyl when taking out the trash. What I believe is that this an all-around cope because climate change is fundamentally out of our control besides local pollution and people are panicking trying to come up with half-assed solutions.
>>737678518after a few years this is the cyberpunk scene that stuck with me, johnny realizes that his entire life's work was for nothing, that everyone who knew him hated his guts and that he didn't even get a grave. And now in the exact same place he blew up a nuke in arasaka stands taller and stronger than ever before. Poor guy
>>737687069>because researchers NEVER EVER point their fingers at billionaires and giant corporationsHUH? motherfucker everyone always blames oil companies for this shit, it's the big businessmen who always redirect the blame and try to tell the public that the new world order is trying to take away their guns by planting solar panels and that we need to buy more coal and oil
>>737678621Clearly you've never met any generation other than millennials. Every generation is full of fags who whine non-stop all the time.
>>737687465>everyone always blames oil companies for this shitFalse, everyone always blame nuclear while oil companies remain completely unaffected and are given privilege to branch out into renewables while keeping their profits from oil extraction and sale, and all with the blessing of researchers and the so-called ecologist and green parties.
>>737678621meh, I got age ranges from like, 22 to 68 at work and all of them are whining niggers except 60+ ones
>>737678518Yeah, and it's not a slow one either. From a historical perspective we're free falling into the abyss.
>>737687564im 90% sure all the hate nuclear gets is funded by oil companies, they've done everything in their power to sabotage any and all alternative sources of energy, you have the president of us who loves to get his asshole blasted by oil companies screaming about windmills killing birds and "clean coal" while china makes more solar panels than the entire rest of the world combined, because at least in china every company knows the moment they go against the party xi will dissapear them
>>737684440I think we don't really know what's happening, why it's happening, what we're doing or contributing, what will happen as a result and if we do change anything that it will be positive and we're just flying by the seat of our pants
>>737680557rare TRVKE
>>737678518we live in an era where straight white men are more and more disanfranchised and excluded form all the systerm that they created to from the modern world. so naturally things are changing. if you describe as "decline" as less white men in charge then you would be right.
>>737678621I work in insurance and millennials are probably the least whiny and most passive generation but simultaneously you're also correct in a weird way.
>>737688120>we live daily lives that would put ancient kings to shameHow many of you live in palaces with a harem of concubines and an army of slaves ready to sacrifice their lives for you? This is we live better than ancient kings statement is the most intensely Reddit thing any modern men could ever say, as if having a iPhone while living in a pod and eating synthetic protein paste was some kind of kingly life because it's so technologically advanced.
We are all in a train going 300 miles per hour, we are heading towards a cliff but no one is pulling on the handbrake
>>737688369Meant for>>737680557But it also applies to anyone naive enough to believe this.
>>737680101>noooooo 2020 bad because government said I couldn't go to partiesnormalfag
Why did right wingers purposefully make the world shitty?
It's the first time in modern history that people aren't getting smarter. There's a precipitous fall in literacy and critical thinking. Yes, things are going to be bad. Literacy will be seen as something of a historic anomaly arising from certain material conditions in a thousand years. Those born with tablets in their faces can never understand what's been lost.
>>737678518Im 40. This is the best its ever been. My grandparents lived in a tenement. They eventually got a house without indoor plumbing. They were all slim because sometimes you just didnt get to eat.My parents both got good jobs. I have a good job. I holiday on other continents. I go skiing. I have investments.If you cant make it now, you would have been dead if you lived in the past.
>>737688812There is absolutely no excuse for your child growing up retarded if you are the one who gives them electronics. Your fault. No one else's.
>>737688880based retard
>>737688936Based rich retard who got there via hard work and long hours. It wasn't brains or luck. Just hard work. Anyone can do it.
>>737688728I loled
>>737688728>LamarckismI know that's a meme, but that's a leftist leaning theory, and it has a lot of truth to it.
>>737678518The Decline of Western CivilizationThe Decline of Video Gaming, the series
>>737685356>everyone who has money got it by theftt. Poorfag criminal scum
>>737678518>be me, wake up, youtube>some faggot: if you don't register digital ID with sony or log in to playstation at least once every 30 days you lose your whole account?????????? i will sue. you're out of your fucking mind if you think this is okyou're also forgetting we're in wartime (caused by you also), don't ask for my help ever.
I personally thought Johnny was a garbage ass character and the writing for him was asinine. I know that's a very minority opinion, but I couldn't stand his character. I don't think you're supposed to hate him, or maybe you are? Everyone loved him, but I didn't see him as some martyr. He was just a retarded edgy drug addict with anger issues who did retarded things. Were we supposed to see him as some tragic soul? I didn't.
>>737678518Yes. This is what it feels like to live in a collapsing civilization. Is it the end of the world? Probably not. But it is the end of the world we were born into.
>WAH WOE IS ME IM A HIPSTER WHO NUKED A CITY WAAAAHlittle faggot was a leech and the bad writing failed to establish him as even remotely redeemable
>>737690178you're supposed to bare in mind he watched what we know as the world turned into corporate mega cities full of criminals including the corpos hell mainly the corpos. johnny did nothing wrong. if a biotech company plagued all food so they cornered the market on it, and then another company killed my girlfriend, i'd set off a nuke too.y'all lack imagination. for the record I "saved johnny" and alt, but next playthrough im nuking the tower.
>>737690518>he's never nuked a city irl
Shame that Shadowrun had to die.
