What am I in for?
>>737681363The best X-COM game ever created.
>>737681545the bar is in hell
>>737681363Enjoy mind controllers.
>>737681363Literally why has nobody been able to top this in 30 years?
losing half of year squad on turn 1
>>737683286Silent Storm.
>>737681363boring bad horrific graphic that burn your eyesunless you have a crt
>>737681363>train super soldiers with high accuracy and stamina>later find out they have next to none psy resistanceInto the trash they go.
Just play xcom 2 instead like any normal person
>>737682197Im a zoomer and this game is unironicaly fun unlike NuCom
>>737681363Wishing you installed x-piratez instead
>>737683286Jagged Alliance 2.
>>737681363>What am I in for?Having one guy mind controlled in your helicopter and killing 2 of your best soldiersOne soldiers panics and get killed outside by a sectoids camping near your landing siteYou manage to somehow win the level, it just cost you half your squad when you started and you return with three back home with PTSD and survivor's guilt because the injured vet grab grenade to his mouth and ran to the group of alien in a sacrifice.Havent found a game where I could find this sort of story and gameplay, maybe Xenonauts but that game is basically Xcom without the PSI stuff and imo they missed cool scenarios where the US/USSR can join the aliens to win the cold war.
>>737686864Too much content.
>>737683286How do you improve upon perfection?
>>737685142Why are zoomers so weak and pathetic?
>>737686864for a first playthrough would retarded
>>737687772Nobody has any idea what you just said
Kino.The original X-Com and Terror From the Deep are fantastic games. I like them better than the more modern games, if only because I love sending out a squad of like 20 guys and only having 1 or 2 return. Makes me really grow attached to them.
>>737681363for me it's throwing all my guns on the ground at the end of every turn so if someone gets mind controlled it doesn't matter
First turn always drop a smoke on the ramp so you can get your dudes out with more safety, bring rocket launchers and TNTs, don't be afraid to blow shit up.Don't get attached to anyone.
Firstly, if you're not playing on openxcom then play on that. Playing using the original ROM will mean playing with a bunch of breaking bugs. Next, accept that aliens will always reaction shot you and will always kill your dude and it will always be bullshit so just get used to reloading. Because honestly if you play ironman you're retarded. Then facecheck everything with a tank or high explosives.And build laser weapons and tripleshot everything.
>>737681363>What am I in for?one of the best games ever madeonly a handful of squad tactics games have managed to reach this level of perfection
>>737688380in TFTD you can open doors without taking a step, I think by holding down ctrl and clicking on the door, so I can be pedantic and say this webm was avoidable. If you just open the door without stepping through you would get the mutual surprise mercy rule where even if they have 999 reactions you still get to go first. That would let you drop an ink grenade then close the door.This isn't really related to the webm but I don't know how people play at massively higher resolutions than the game was originally intended to run at because stepping one tile forward can be the difference between life and death
>>737688313But doing retarded shit is half the fun
>>737682197Open xcom
>>737688724>in TFTD you can open doors without taking a step, I think by holding down ctrl and clicking on the doorin oxce you just right click in the direction to turn your soldier, and then again to operate what's in front of him
>>737681363game-breaking bug that makes every mission after the first mission the hardest difficulty in the game
>>737687772Roblox and discord pedoservers have totally ruined your estrogenic mind. Its time to quit lil' troonie
>>737688850Xcom was the first vidya I picked for myself back in the day as a 7yo, i learned english as I went. Chrysslaids scared the fuck out of me, i would just camp the skyranger and it's immediate surroundings when i see saw a snakeman or heard that chryssalid sound
>>73768136399% to hit missing and 1% to be hit being crits.
>>737688921here's one for you
>>737682197I played that when I was 16 in 2005. This was the only time in my life when I played for 30 hours straight. This was something really mindblowing.
>>737689136Fuck I love xcom art
what is our hivemind opinion about xpiratez?
>>737689586feels like eating your lunch in a '70s porno theater
>>737681363Great game with its own pitfalls and was later more or less side-graded or made better by others.>>737683286Mewgenics, X-COM2 are great alternatives, also some PS1 era isometric strategy games like Vandal Hearts and FFT have a nice spin on this genre.
>>737689586i wanna like it, but i can't
>>737689842>Mewgenics>an alternative to xcomyou made a funny
>>737689953They are in the same genre, so its an alternative. Both are great games.
>>737689586Wish I could get into it for both coom and gameplay reasons but it's not my thing in both departments.
>>737681363Suffering... You are looking for suffering...>Avoid all fights in the night. You have less vision, while aliens are unaffected.>Deploy tanks on your first missions. Your soldiers won't make it.>At your first turn, deploy smoke inside the plane, and ouside the ramp, then end turn.>Once a soldier is discovered, aliens can always target it with psionic attacks. There are always psionic soldiers in terror missions.>Try to avoid terror missions by deploying and there retiring everyone on the first turn (you will lose less points than not going in the first place).>Create bases around the world with only a plane and a radar, in order to cover more sides of your planet to shot down UFOs.>Make the base in order to create a choke point in which aliens are forced to pass through. Aliens invade from your hangars (and maybe another thing I forget right now).>Divide your soldiers in scouts and snipers. Snipers are obviously the one with good aim stat. Scouts will be the eyes for your snipers.>If a night mission can't be avoided, bring the electro-flares with you.Good luck. You will need it...
Its the greatest strategy game ever made
>>737689586I probably played like 30 hours of it 8 years ago and the only reason I didn't play further is because I couldn't play the grav ball match against the doctor because I didn't figure out how to get the grav suit until too much time passed in game (you had to go through the rewards bounty system which I didn't touch at all because all the weapons weren't useful for too much of it and I took the euro syndicate deal for early energy weapons) and the quest bugged out and refused to spawn it anymore and it caused me to seethe too much. I had just got Rin Tohsaka to give me a magic space ship too.I like it though it had a fair bit of unpleasant design choices and bloat. I really liked it combing all the sprites from the series into one package. The focus on melee and the damage color effect was nice as well.
>>737690130>Both are great games.i agree>They are in the same genre, so its an alternative.remotely. xcoms atmosphere is nothing like mewgenics
>>737681363Lots of political brainrot, bot accounts, and thirdworlders using AI to pretend they're white or make fake news posts.Oh wait, that's x dot com, not x dash com. My mistake.
>>737686864>>737689586>xpiratezDogshit retarded coomer mod which has forever desacrated xcom.
>>737681545Trve, you actually have to move your units as a tactical squad instead of just praying to the RNG god
>>737689842X-Com 2 can die in a fire, it's a complete betrayal.X-Com had always been the the indomitable human spirit over coming a superior force.The best of the best achieving even greater heights.Not just a plucky rag tag group of rebels story.Play the UFO or Xenonauts instead.
>>737689586Muscle girls with hairy crotches are great!>>737692001Shit taste
>>737692176>Play the UFO or Xenonauts instead.is X2 worth checking out?
>>737692324No.
>>737692362why? care to elaborate?
>>737692176Fuck off. X-com 2 is a fight against all odds. It is even more so a bigger up hill battle than X-com 1.
>>737691154Atmosphere has nothing to do with genre tho. Mewgenics has great atmosphere too but not like X-Com.>>737692176Xenonauts a shit. You might not like the story but as game its great.
>>737692421It is literally just XCOM UFO defense lite with modern UI/UX and some minor "improvements" (vide gutting of complex mechanics). There is no reason to play it over XCOM UFO defense.
>>737692460>Atmosphere has nothing to do with genre thookay and?>Mewgenics has great atmosphere too sure>but not like X-Com.my point exactly
>>737692460>>737692176>>737687347I have 25 hours in xenonauts 1 from 6 years ago and didn't really advanced far, when I were setting my bases to get interception zones across the globe there was always a strip of remote alaskan or chilian wilderness that kept getting bombed and I loss from score, it happened like 3 times and the way the mechanic worked just tilted me so much I didn't replay the game with a new method. I should go back though, I have it downloaded and on my drive for the last 5 years I just can't muster the will.
>>737692176I just want to second the UFO recommendation. start with Aftershock, since Aftermath is way too jank and Afterlight has a questionable visual design choice.
>>737690757>>Deploy tanks on your first missions. Your soldiers won't make it.The little tanks are so good, I use rookies to spot enemies and the tanks stay behind lobbbing shells at anything that moves, great combo.
>>737689842you are one dumb faggot damn
>>737693429You're supposed to do the opposite since those rookies can increase their stats and the tanks can't. Tanks are faster and tougher than a rookie which makes them great scouts, soldiers can train their shooting and become killing machines.
>>737681363Your highest rank is determined by total number of soldiers. If you try to keep a small group like you're playing NuCom you're literally never see anyone promoted above Sergeant.Higher ranked soldiers make you lower ranked soldiers lose less morale and lower the panic/berserk rate when shit goes south just by being on the map. Until the highest rank gets killed, which has the exact opposite effect. Keep them out of harm's way. And unarmed if you find out they've got shit tier Psi.
>>737681363Wait, x-com is old? I thought it was some series that started on the 360 or xbone or something.
How's Terror From the Deep compared to UFO?I wish Xenonauts 2 had more charm, it looks so bland compared to classic XComs
>>737694521it's ufo but underwater, they had too little time to add any mechanicsit's also more difficult imo
>>737694521I like it more, but it has a couple research bugs that prevent progression if you do something in the wrong order and will prevent you from winning the game. Otherwise I like the design better but it's just the original game at it's essence and gameplay.
Any game that is x-com but real time?
>>737696032Aliens dark descent
>>737696032xcom apocalypse gives options between turn base and real time
>>737696032the UFO games >>737692750
>>737692176Humanity First fags are so incredibly cringe. Put mankind in even the slightest bit of negative light and they freak the fuck out.
>>737681363Honestly? A really boring and super shallow game without open xcom mods. The vanilla base game is more of a boomer toy than a game, like Oregon trail or something.
>>737681363Its a bit of a slog until you figure out the mechanics but its a solid experience.
>>737696564actual midwit opinion, Ufo Defense is a very well designed game where the mechanics reinforce each other in a very organic way, the gameplay loop and pacing is close to perfection, it's very much still playable and above most TBT games that came after it, only real problem would be setting it up for a modern machine, but openXcom takes care of that, a vanilla playthrough first is worth it.
>>737694580It's objectively more difficult
>>737681363searching room after room for hours on a huge ass terror map to get that one illegal that needs deporting
>>737697090>the gameplay loop and pacing is close to perfectionI really hope you're being ironic and aren't this boring.
>>737694521They balanced TFTD around people saying Xcom was too easy before actually realizing there was a code error in Xcom that locked the game to easy modeSo its almost fucking impossible to win without pushing mind control and tanks
>>737692750Shill the game to me. I have never heard anything good about it
>>737697371And if I am not mistaken, TFTD has the complementary code error, meaning that the game was locked at the hardest difficulty independently from your selection
>>737697235
>>737694521>>737697371>>737698493The worst part about TFTD is the level designs. They have so many more tiny nooks and crannies that aliens can hide in, meaning every mission ends with 20 minutes of Hunt The Last Ayy.
>>737686907I wanted to like it but it's so clunky and arcane. You end up abusing the AI but that's the case in most of these games.
>>737688410>Firstly, if you're not playing on openxcom then play on thatThis.
>>737698803>cruise ship missionNah, i aint playing that.
>>737681363Having the first 4 soldiers in your ship die immediately because two cyberdiscs spawned right outside the entrance. Having the next four soldiers die from the a bunch of shots hitting you from outside your FOV.
>>737683286>>737688231Yes, it probably is a "perfect" game. OpenXCOM exists but it's still the same game.>>737694521More of the same, which is the main criticism of the game too.
>>737681363A bit dated with the cumbersome UI but over all excellent strategy game.
>>737698402I'll talk about Aftershock since that's what I suggested starting with. it's simply XCOM but RTWP, and broad soldier development (as you can see in the previous screenshot with different skills and classes). you do the same stuff like recovering artifacts and researching them, and progress through an overarching plot. as for the geoscape part, you start in one region and you need to explore and "conquer" the surroundings to progress even further, somewhat like Phoenix Point point if you're familiar with that. but again, it's a yurop game so expect some jankiness.
i've only played the first x-com and it's addons, but i will never in my life touch x-com 2 or anything like it. it just looks like plastic zogshit.
>>737689586Nothing else has been able to capture the magic of perpetually drunk mutant women taking down hyper-advanced organizations with access to power armor and alien weaponry by hitting them repeatedly with slegehammers, having midget muties zoom around in ramshackle vehicles that don't have anything reminiscent of safety features, and duct-taping landmines to dogs. I love that scrappy "strength of the human spirit" bullshit.
>Track some landed UFO>go to capture UFO>oh fuck there's literally 4 UFOs who will take over the country.
>>737698747if only these things aren't so useless since that one last ayy will probably never move. also dogshit range.
Heavy weapons seem like a complete meme>less ammo>no accuracy improvement>shots consume more API always immediately go rifles only.
I'm somebody that actually beat enemy unknown before playing OG XCOM. At first I was confused by the AP system UFO used and I had a bunch of fuck ups where I'd just use up all my soldiers AP from moving. But once I got used to how it worked I actually appreciated how versatile it was because you could switch up the moves for each soldier by say taking multiple shots or covering extra distance when moving, instead of like most turn-based games where it's just make move and do action. Are there other turn-based games where each action uses some stamina/action bar instead of fixing each move at one attack one move?
>>737700140>one attack one moveactually nu-com was the one that popularized it. most old games used the AP system.
>>737699757for the "heavy" class of weapons it depends on tech levelsBallisticsAuto-Cannon: Explosive ammo, that's why you take this thing; 3 shots that won't not land a direct shot but when every shot has an explosive radius it doesn't matter (hitting an alien indirectly does boost accuracy) Load every recruit with these things is an effective way to play earlyHeavy Cannon: If you're playing on harder difficulty and starting out it's less consistent to drop sectoids and floaters with rifle rounds so might as well lug these around to get the higher damage and it does have explosive ammo like the auto-cannon though going rifles is still a find choice since spamming autoshots in close range or aimed shots at long range still get's the work done.LasersHeavy Laser: You can kill sectopods with it, neat. I never use it.PlasmaHeavy Plasma: Mainstay, in fact plasma weapons can be teched into skipping lasers and it doesn't take long for every alien to be carrying heavy plasma except for commanders or engineersBlaster Bomb: Yes
>>737700140Divinity original sin
>>737699757main benefit is being way better at fighting cyberdisks
>>737699757ROCK IT LAUNCHER
>>737700140From what I understand of it, Underrail uses a system that is basically AP. I've never played the OG XCOM or Underrail, though.
>>737699757>no accuracy improvementAckshully the rocket launcher is one of the most accurate weapons in the game.
>>737698402it uses tick/time-based actions instead of a pseudo round-based one e.g. d&d rpgs, etc.it's a decent game but i have issues with late game pacing having to run the same random missions again and again while waiting for stuff to develop and massive difficulty spikes.
>>737702974is that based or related to 7.62?
How's Xenonauts?
>>737703942It's mechanically solid but lacks the atmosphere and personality of X-Com. It's okay, worth one playthrough at least.
>>737703942Oh and don't ever autoresolve air combat unless you want to lose interceptors to UFOs that shouldn't even be able to get in range before being blown up.
>>737703276doubt so.would be surprised if there were actually connections.
>>737698803I remember having to waste down to hunt a last alien while I am in their base...This game actually manages to give me a lot of tension, so I am afraid the whole time during the research. Sometimes reaction shots actually have a jumpscare effect on me. Am I the only one?
>>737705709waste time to hunt*
>>737681545>1 hour of overwatch campingchaosgate daemonhunters was better than xcomfight me
>>737689842>Mewgenics
>>737707269>overwatch
>>737707684
>>737707894wrong game
>>737703276Since you brought up 7.62 I feel it's my civic duty to let everyone know there are performance and stability patches that were implemented LAST MONTH on the beta branch.
>>737708697(For Hard Life not High Calibre)
>>737708372>Um it's the exact same mechanic but named different so I have no idea what you're talking about :^)Bro this is genuinely pathetic, can you just not reply when you're reduced to this sort of pedantic nonsense instead of whatever this reply chain is supposed to be?
>>737708828The mechanics behind UFO Defense's Reaction system are completely different than FiraXCOM's shit.
>>737708828>I've never played the game I'm talking about but trust me bro I'm an expert
>>737707894>AI summary of a different game with totally different mechanicszoomer genocide can't come soon enough.
>>737708828reaction shots are not overwatch.
>>737681363A really easy game because the difficulty setting is bugged>inb4 play open x-comYou didn't play the game
>>737709565>>737709403>>737709475>>737709484>actually not spending a set amount of AP to enable reaction shooting on an enemy's turn is COMPLETELY different from spending a set amount of AP to enable reaction shooting on an enemy's turnWhat possesses someone to be this much of a pathetic pedantic?It's the exact same fucking mechanic presented slightly differently you absolute dipshits.
>>737710743The biggest difference is you can do multiple reactions, not just one. Play the game.
>>737710816>the biggest difference is that it leads to the exact thing you complained about so um you're still wrongCan you please just stop replying already? My mind is actually being blown away by how stupid your replies are.
>>737710743you can react fire to being hit from behind
>>737710951Um akshuyally it's "reaction shot" camping. Therefore, it's not actually 1 hour of overwatch camping.Argument: THOROUGHLY dismantled. I accept your concession.
>>737692750Aftershook and Afterlight were great though
>>737692750>>737711382I actually liked Afterlight because of the premise of terraforming Mars, and you can slowly see the red planet turning green.
Consider the following: You don't need to wait outside of an alien ship's doors for them to come out.
>>737681363Hey OP, you dropped this..https://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/the-x-com-files#descriptionYou are welcome. Also there were 2 other things grouped with it. https://www.moddb.com/mods/x-piratezandhttps://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/40k#description https://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/rosigma#descriptionHave fun
>>737711661>you control the buttons you press
How do we feel about Jagged Alliance 2? How does it compare?
>>737711626>yfw you start at cydonia
