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The only game that I play is Age of Empires 2 campaigns. Maybe Starcraft campaigns. How is this game?
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This one hardly had any campaign stuff from what I recall, never tried the DE tho. The main mode was just a series of skirmish maps that I couldn't be bothered with.
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>>737684971
Fuck me, I just dodged a bullet. Thanks, Anon
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>>737685090
If you wanted a game with game with a looong campaign, I shill you Five Nations. Very Starcraft-like, adorably janky voice acting, gets very hard in later chapters.
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>>737684364
Why do retards always want to skip Stronghold and go straight into Crusader?
Stronghold has a proper campaign while Crusader is oriented towards multiplayer.
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>>737685397
The setting
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>>737685397
Multiplayer? My and my buddies always played the skirmish maps.
Although it has a story mode, at least the original had 4x4 story levels.
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>>737685653
Skirmish is just multiplayer with ai replacing real players.
And yeah, it has a couple story missions but they're disjointed instead of properly structured like the story of Stronghold.
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>>737685717
I remember some taking ages so it wasn't really easier as you subtle try to insinuate.
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>>737684364
It's great, had some issues at release but Firefly actually keeps fixing shit and releasing content with an active roadmap, although keeping new lords behind DLCs in a 20 year old game is a bit of a jewish move.
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>>737684364
Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader both have campaigns the Definitive edition even added more on top either play comfy or you can partake in the challenge of the ladder board, pretty sure they will add more content with free patches
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>>737685805
Nobody except you is talking about difficulty, ESL brownoid.
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>>737684364
Haven't played the DE, but on HD these so called "campaigns" can all be cheesed. Scenarios are unfair, but AI is dumb and can be abused. Gets repetetive after 20 missions or so.
Firefly hasn't made a single good game after original Stroghold btw
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>>737685805
I'm insinuating no such thing, to the point that I don't even know whether you're referring to skirmish or the "story" missions. Some of them can get quite difficult.
What I like about Stronghold is that the story mode has structure. The missions progress from a glorified tutorial towards more difficult ones culminating with the siege of Pig's castle. The individual missions have scriptwork that can change the stakes completely mid-mission, all properly voice acted and with cool story intermissions that get you immersed.
Stronghold and Crusader are both good games, but if your goal is singleplayer definitely play the original first.
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>>737685968
DE added CPU lord editor and custom trait editor on top of integrated Steam workshop. People can now create and share difficult traits vs unfair AI. It's actually great
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>>737685982
I mean that map in the menu where you have 50 matches in the original and you have to advance by beating preset AI.
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>>737686123
Yeah, the skirmish, which is just multiplayer maps with ai players, all with equal starting resources.
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>>737685397
the OG stronghold camapign kinda sucks, and i still like the game
crusader trail campaign is a more balanced gameplay experience if you're into that
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>>737685982
>The missions progress from a glorified tutorial towards more difficult ones
I really hate that rts go for this structure. I'll replay dark crusade forever, but the og campaign with the agonizingly slow and building unlocks where the objectives are your commander shouting "Take this objective!" "Damn, we can't take this objective, bla bla bla, we require artillery. Build artillery from the lba bla building and use them in this bla bla bla at this location". Which is a shame because it's nice to have scripted events and a proper story sometmes.
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>>737686995
It's not that bad in Stronghold. It handles the trope well.
You're given all the tools available to you at the start of the mission and ahve to complete the objectives with them, it's just that each mission you unlock new tools. No "you have to build the woodcutter's hut", then a 30 second voiceover with the camera panning over a group wolves followed by a zoom in onto your keep and "now that you have wood construct one fletcher's workshop to make bows". First mission is literally "get wood to make bows then use gold to recruit archers to kill wolves, go".
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>>737687176
>a 30 second voiceover with the camera panning over a group wolves followed by a zoom in onto your keep
kek, you know exactly what I mean. That's cool, then I think gradually unlocking things would be acceptable. It's not really your standard rts either, so maybe tutorializing it is more fine here. But yeah, I think gradual unlocks are more okay if it's not so heavy handed.

I played these games when I was very little, so have intense nostalgia for them but don't remember much of the actual game. I just know that the prerendered castles are absolutely gorgeous and I think pretty much peak vidya graphics, so I would like to actually play them for real.
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are the aoe2 campaigns as good as Warcraft 3?
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>>737687506
aoe2 has a ton of short campaigns that focus on heroically retold historical events, it cannot be more different from wc3
wc3 can be beaten in like 20 hours, you need 150 minimum at least for all the campaigns in aoe2 today
aoe2 campaigns are also much more difficult than wc3, if you like that
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>>737687506
Quantity over quality. Lots of campaigns with very samey scenarios and objectives, and hardly any faction variety with mostly identical unit rosters all the time. If you can beat two or three campaigns of this repetitive crap and not get bored out of your mind, you might as well enjoy it.
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>>737684364
Play Dawn of War Dark Crusade or SoulStorm
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>>737689310
I really want to like it, but even playing it for the historical content just isn't enough, it's so dry. I wish the new content and dlc would feature remade better campaigns, but purists would just get mad and hardly anyone plays it for the single player so it won't happen.
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>>737685090
Just get the original game on GOG. It is a much more casual and fast paced experience so don't go into it expecting too sophisticated. Building cool looking castles is easy and very fun
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>>737684364
Play standard Stronghold DE if you want a lengthy and great campaign

Crusaders has multiple campaign but they are pretty short. Other than that it has a big campaignthat is just bunch of skirmish matches with increasing difficulty. You can play it in coop tho
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>>737687506
Gameplaywise aoe2 campaign maps are better (wc3 campaign maps are pretty basic desu)
Story/presentatiomwise they are pretty basic tho and wc3 is particularly good in that aspect
You can also just use pause in aoe2 while still controlling everything, so you can play it like some semi turn based strategy game too which is pretty comfy



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