How would you have reacted if someone told you 9 years ago that this would be the last time you ever got to play a new 3D Mario game?
"I don't give a shit about your bing bing wahoos"
I like Odyssey idk why /v/ hates it so much. I don't like throwing the word contrarian around because I get called a contrarian for saying I don't like Mario Galaxy but come on Odyssey was fun.
I watched my nephew play Mario Odyssey a game older than he is and that's when I realized Nintendo literally does not have to make new games.
>>737688426/v/ doesn't hate OdysseyI find it kinda boring though
>>737688426I was disappointed playing it the very first time, but over the past FUCKING DECADE I've replayed it and the other 3D marios enough times to where I can appreciate its superior gameplay and world design.
>>737688315>9 yearswhat the fuck
>>737688426It's not a bad game, but it's definitely the weakest entry when it comes to 3D marios.
>>737688315A new 3D Mario will be revealed this year.It will release this year or next year.Everyone who says otherwise is concern trolling.
>tfw hearing Odyssey music in Mario Kart World
>>737688517Surely not worse than 3D Land, World and Sunshine?
>>737688994>3D LandNot a 3D Mario
>>737688426I like my collectibles with some actual effort and substance behind the process of obtaining them
>>737690101just don't go for easy moons then
>>737688315>the last timehopefully they never try to make another one again nintendo fell off hard, they can't make a good game anymore >muh tranananzakill yourself faggot, literally.
Would have sold 50 copies without the IP
>>737688315A lot of companies seem to have slowed down their releases. I feel like fromsoft, bethesda, rockstar all do it. Not sure where that is coming from.
>>737690193They’re basically all easy. Even in the few instances where some proper structure can be found in the game, such as in the dedicated challenge rooms, the moons still don’t feel rewarding to collect because the rooms are boring as fuck and devoid of challenge in most cases.
>>737688315What happened? Am I terminally ill or something?
>>737691321You died 8 years ago
>>73769019390% of the moons are "easy moons"that's the problem
>>737688315bro I can't fucking believe nintendo thinks it's okay to leave MARIO of all series without a game for a WHOLE FUCKING DECADEthat shit is insane bro
>>737692274It's 2033 already?
>>737692274>Nintendo has FORGOTTEN about Mario...
>>737688315That's pretty much how I felt when playing it so I'd probably just say "yeah". God damn mario in space is so lame
>>737694448>mario in space is so lameWhat, you mean Super Mario Land?
>>737693709yeah it had been a while since a 2D game as well til wonder came out, but that's a different series
>>737688315Annoyed because I didn't like odyssey.
>>737695652>it's a different serieshttps://mario.nintendo.com/history/Not according to Nintendo
>>737688426I just thought it was boring. Would've probably seen it through to the end and "liked" it if I was younger though, like with Galaxy. Nowadays I'd get bored of Galaxy too if I played it I'm pretty sure.
>>737688517The weakest 3D Mario is World and it's not even remotely close. 3D World was one of my biggest vidya disappointments. I expected to explore worlds with total freedom and instead got slapped with the half-baked mini-levels where you're on a 3 minutes timer to rush through. This works in 2D Mario but not in 3D.
>>737688315Do people forget that Bowser's Fury exists or does it not count because it's a smaller-scale "side-mode"?
>>737695996It's just 2D Mario but in a 3D coat of paint but I don't blame you for being disappointed.
>>737697858Yes, in retrospect I can appreciate that game more. Problem is that at the time I was starving for a new 3D Mario, and the game's name gave false hopes.I've also never been a big fan of 2D Mario. Did not even finish Wonder. It's hard to put my finger on why but basically these games feel like they play themselves.
>>737688517>Weaker than SunshineNo
>>737696193snoys never played it
>>737698141Sunshine was fucking great you're out of your mind if you think it was bad.
>>737688315You'll live
>>737696193Appetizer for a meal that never came
>>737688315I would've been disappointed. The first time I beat Odyssey I was disappointed because the game didn't feel grand. I found it simple and too restrictive... but then I played it again, and again, and then I realized I actually liked replaying it just as much as Mario 64. That said I personally think DK Bananza did the Odyssey formula better than Odyssey, I found the missions slightly more difficult and tightly designed in that game because of DK's more limited moveset and the skill tree.
>>737696193Mad that I 100% 3D World (with Mario) and then I play this afterwards and it's so much better. Mario actually controls well instead of like a piece of shit
>>737688315>oof, so Odyssey flopped, huh>no that's the crazy part
>>737696193Did Future Connected count as a new Xenoblade Chronicles game? Did Side Stories count as a new Pikmin game? Did Master Quest count as a new Zelda game?
>>737696193No I haven’t forgotten about that trash but I’d like to
>>737696193I actually enjoyed this a lot more than the base game. I know it's just a tech demo add-on but I hope the next 3D Mario will keep this level of freedom to explore and allow you to use power ups anywhere.
What's with zoomers and their impatience about playing new games? They are so brainrotten and memed into having to play every new shit and 100% then forget about it 1 week later when most games are made with replay value or multiplayer in mind, goddamn I hate them so much
>>737688315I couldnt care less. Mario has been shit post Sunshine
>>737699515the only people who like Sunshine were the GameCube zoomers whose first exposure to Mario was through Sunshine.
>>737705365It's a really good game though.
>>737692245go back and play the 3D Marios as an adult and you'll realise most of the goals in them are easy too. Mario 64 only has two legitimately hard levels, and one of them is only hard because of fucky depth perception.
>>737705124>"those damn zoomers are so impatient"Xers got new major Mario games every couple years, and us millennials got them every few years (with SM64-Sunshine being the biggest gap at 6 years, though SMS at least started having footage a year ahead of time). It's absolutely valid to take issue with an almost decade fucking long gap.
>>737705467it isn't. it's strictly inferior to Mario 64 and Galaxy 1/2. >Hazbin Hotel avatarfaggingsays it all
>>7376980732D Mario hasn't been good since World on SNES. NSMB especially was a genuine toddler game
>>737688315There's a couple factors for why that is. Odyssey released in the first year of the Switch. 3D Mario is a once per generation game, with Galaxy 2 being the only exception, and the Switch had an abnormally long time life before the Switch 2 was released, which is why it has been 8 1/2 years. Normally a new 3D Mario would be revealed by now, and release no later than a year after the console released, but it's taking a bit longer than usual. But the game could be revealed at any moment.
>>737705567Who cares if a new mario games takes longer than usual? jesus christ there is tons of shit to play nowadays you don't just own a single console like a retard
>>737705505I also feel that people overstate that complexity of obtaining Power Stars, so many of them are about as involved as obtaining a Power Moon. The only difference is the level doesn't kick you out after obtaining the easy ones so you're able to chain them together. Play the PC port with level kickouts disabled and see how many stars effectively turn into moons.
>>737705956>Who cares if a new mario games takes longer than usual?People who want to play new Mario games, for starters.
>>7376885173D World is not even a real 3D Mario game, it's just 2D Mario in 3D with boring movement. That's the worst.
>>737697858That's why it's the worst.
>>737705920Galaxy got a sequel because of how retardedly successful it was and what a no-brainer it'd be. SMO was even more retardedly successful and got bupkis despite the massive primary lifespan of the Switch (not even a content DLC). That's the problem people have.
>>737700105The next 3D Mario is almost guaranteed to be open world, whether we like it or not. From Nintendo's perspective it's probably the next logical step for 3D Mario. They already played around with the idea with Bowser's Fury, and even Mario Kart was turned into an open world game.
>>737688517kek
>>737706175BotW ruined this fucking company.
>>737695996You could have had a marginally passable opinion by going after 3D Land, but no, you go after World, one of the most consistently tight and inventive games in the series
>>737706285>BotW saved this fucking company.ftfy
>>737694230Unironically they have, 40th anniversary and they announced Tennis and Yoshi.
>>737706203?Whats wrong with this? Did you know you can just press the analog button a little and it will move more slowly?
>>737696193Correct, it's a side mode. There's no real argument for it being a new standalone game, it's not even listed first on the boxart
>>737701589>Odyssey>didn't feel grand>too restrictiveHow the fuck is it possible for people to form such incoherent opinions that do not line up with reality
>>737705956
>>737705124What the fuck is it with boomers and replaying the same fucking game over and over like they have god damn dementia. How do you not realize that when you have a better attention span than a goldfish you do not want to treat a game like a fidget spinner.
I find it curious that when kids get to try 3D Marios they vastly prefer 64, followed by Sunshine, then Odyssey, 3D world, Land and Galaxies.
>>737688426It controls great, but it does nothing with it because it was designed to be completed by infants.
>>737706072Galaxy sold a bit more than Mario 64, but with 3x the install base of the N64, and they're both among the highest rated games of all time. There was probably more to do with the space gimmick of Galaxy than there was with Mario visiting more kingdoms and having more captures.
>>737688315His daughter took over now.
>>737705124>>737706610I don't think this has anything to do with generations. Some people like to replay old favorites. Some don't. Its not that deep.
>>737690101You must HATE SM64.
>>737705956>enter mario thread>"wait people want a new mario game in the mario thread??? wowwwwwww nice bugged nintendo fan mechanics"why are nu-tendo "fans" so fucking resentful over Mario and Mario fans?
>>737690359Look everyone, the brown retard is having an autistic meltdown!
>>737705973I love Odyssey, but the moons that are just hanging around are the weakest aspect. Every star in 64 at least has some objective involved with it. Granted there's 836 to the 120. One thing that's easy to praise about Odyssey is the amount of content, but I think you could just as easily criticize it for it too. Imagine if there was only 500, or 400, maybe less, then each moon could then feel as special as a star.
>>737706072My tin foil hat theory is that Bowser's Fury was 100% Odyssey DLC, but they decided to package 3D World with it instead.
>>737706846>muh special rewards That's dumb af.
>>737706175>whether we like it or notWhy the FUCK would you not like it. 3D Platformers is one of two genres in dire need of an open world entry right now. It's literally perfect for the design.
>>737706610>look out bros, I'm spinning Oot again
>>737706946Because open world is overdone to death now and Nintendo showed with TotK and MKW that they don't know how the fuck to actually utilize the groundwork.
>>737690359nintendo basically died with iwata, it kept going a bit longer because of momentum but it's gone now
>>737706740DK Bananza is a prequel
>>737706919Do you like the moons that are just hovering 3 steps from the odyssey when you start a level? I personally like the ones where you throw cappy on a scarecrow and do some platforming. That's what I'm saying.
>>737696193I genuinely think Nintendo considers Bowser's Fury to be a full 3D Mario game and that's why they haven't made a real new one since Odyssey 9 years ago
>>737707036>overdone to deathDark Souls is overdone to death. I could go the rest of my life without seeing another Elden Ring, or Bloodborne, whatever. It's been a fucking disaster for the industry.
>>7376959963D World has almost nothing wrong with it. People just pretend it's bad because they compare it to games like Mario 64 when really it's a sequel to Super Mario World but in 3D
>>737707186I don't know why that is a problem you still need hundreds to finish the game, the padding is not that bad, and there's plenty of difficult moons specially after you unlock the moon cubes.
>>737706610A lot of times it's just autism making people crave what's safe and predictable. Life is full of setbacks and unpleasant surprises. It's good to have a constant to offset that.
>>737707250>mfw I'm a fan of Nintendo and Fromsoft and love open world games
>>737707312I can't wrap my head around not liking it. My ranking for Mario goes:64 = Odyssey > 3D World > 3D Land > Galaxy 2 > Galaxy 1 > Sunshine
>>737707375I think 124 is needed to finish. I'm just saying it would be better to have 124 standout moments associated with it, let alone the 836 where your memory waxes over during a 100% run. As I said before you could praise the game for the content, and it's well designed so that anyone could beat it, and it's well designed for speedrunners they can beat it under 2 hours, I love Odyssey, but the moons that just hang out with no challenge associated with them are disappointing as can be.
>>737696193Exactly. And it’s about 9 hours or so to 100%. It’s relatively meaty for a smaller experience. We can expect the next 3D to work off of what Bowsers Fury did. I love it. And all the fury related songs get me going.
>>737706846more than a few stars in Mario 64 are simply "go interact with X object". it's just that getting booted out of the level makes it feel more impactful.
>>737688426Odyssey is squandered by the fact that it's linear. All else could be forgiven about the game if you were able to go to any level you want like in Mario 64, but the game is instead a literal straight line to the end and you really feel how much worse some levels are compared to others. Even Sunshine let you pick which courses you want to do for the most part after 15 stars despite the levels being done in linear missions. But Odyssey, no. It has no replayability because you have to do the same order of levels every time. Mario 64 still mogs every other game to this day in player freedom and non-linearity, which is the whole appeal of these movement-based 3D Mario games.
>>737688315Bad cause it sucked
>>737688426Felt boring and slow3D World was GOTY so Oddisey felt so shittey like open world slow slopBasically we went from arcade design to open world slop design
>>737707540I honestly don't see how or why easy moons are disappointing, it's simply a requirement to see the rest of the content and you can always choose to not collect them or play the level until you get all the "satisfying" moons whatever that means.
>>737688426What I really don't understand is why /v/ praises Sunshine so much, it's easily the worst of the 3D Marios.
>>737688994Those 3 are the best.Like what the fuck have you people even played World?>3D Land 9.5/10>3D World10/10>and Sunshine9/10Let's rate others>648.5/10>Galaxy 1 and 28/10>Oddisey 6/10
>>737707680Could you provide a specific example? when I was thinking about Odyssey I had in mind when you arrive in Cascade Kingdom, pretty much level 1, there's a moon just a few steps away from the odyssey on your way to the chain chomp. You can just grab this moon in like 4 seconds. It doesn't appear until you get the multimoon for the boss fight a little later, but afterwards it's just sitting right there with no objective associated with it.Theoretically, it could just not be there. It could just be that the triple moon you get for the boss fight is a quadruple moon, you see what I'm getting at? You can tell the team figured something akin to this out, when they made DK Bananza they introduced pentuple banadium gems for the boss fights.
>>737707958It's beautiful mess, like a 10/10 drugaddict.
>>737707984You can't even spell, 3DSbabby
>>737707958You can only believe this if you don't think 3D Land is a real 3D Mario game because it's basically a tech demo for 3D World
>>737707787I don't really find this very fair, due to the nature of how non-linear acquiring the exorbitant amount of moons are, and the fact that several times you are given a choice between two levels as well. I will meet you in the middle and admit that the paintings hidden in levels are really cool, but that they should be accessible on the first visits to the levels not later on. I've seen the potential that those present in acquiring as many moons as possible bouncing between levels using the paintings, before depositing as many moons into the odyssey at once.
>>737708000trips of truth. sunshine is the greatest half-finished game ever
>>737707878What if I threw dollar bills on the ground in front of you.
>>737707873>3D World (especially a WiiU player) calling SMO "slow"
>>737708059>basically a tech demo for 3D WorldWhat the fuck, 3D Land was built to make use of depth perception, the entire game was made to force the player to play differently
>>737708049Oh no, no I hate my arcade pure gameplay 3D Land and 3D World because I got called a 3DSbabby and now my favorite game is whatever this anons favorite game is!(Oddisey probably)
>>737708202It depends on what I am doing, I am dancing or something?
>>737708059I wasn't really including 3D Land and 3D World since they're a different style of game, but on that note I don't care for them either, the overworld in 3D World is nice but the actual platforming in the levels feels too slow.
>>737708059>when the tech demo is better than the Gamecube "classic"my sides
Flag at the end? Not a mainline 3D Mario
>>737707991hidden Toads where all you do is talk to them, catch MIPS the rabbit, blast away the wall, rainbow carpet ride where you just sit and wait to the end
>>737708440>koopa the quick invalidates a whole game
>>737708525That isn't the same, but you knew that
>>737708618We should publicly execute all video essayists
>>737688426Odyssey was fun but it's held back by its controls (ironically) and weak moons.
>>737688315I was going to make a new thread but I'll post it here. Info on next 3D Mario*been in development since '23*current title is Super Mario Playground*MMO co-op sandbox platformer*players will all play as different mariod*character customization *focus on collaborationWill be revealed this Sunmer, release next year
>>737706316What was inventive about 3D World, clear pipes and climbing walls? It was extremely basic. It felt super casualfied compared to the big adventures of previous 3D Mario games. 3D Land gets the excuse of being a handheld game so it was great as a handheld game. Arguably better level design too because it was single player and didn't have to accommodate 4 players with its level design.
>>737688517Sunshit is the weakest entry and I'm tired of cubies telling me otherwise because of the "pretty water".
Why is Mario in durotar
>>73770798464 is a 12/10 you infidel
>>737709007>Nintendo MMOHeh
>>737688315"Wowie zowie!"
>>737688470really? I'm the opposite. thought it was really fun on release but on replaying it earlier this year realized it's kind of boring once the novelty wears off...
>>737688315I don't mind waiting for a game as long as it takes to make it good. TRUST THE PLAN!
i had a hunch after botw and smo that was it. the last of nintendo actually having interesting ideas and implementing them effectively. a decade later i was 100% correct.
>>737707113nah it's a sequel. In Odyssey the people in new donk city were dressed like it's the 1950s but in Bananza they were dressed like it's the 2000s
>>737688426its not bad. its just uninspired, not in that it needed to be open world or anything but its conceptually no different than mario 64. there's nothing interesting or new about it.
>>737688315>no Bom-omb Battlefield DLC>no Delfino Plaza DLC>no DLC at all for a game that would've been amazing to haveWith BOTW getting 2 DLC packs, I was really hoping for more content with Mario Odyssey. Such a great game and I can't believe we've gotten nothing since it's release
>>737709563How is that possible
>>737709525Sure bud
>>737709619It isn't. Don't engage. The Pauline schizos can't be reasoned with
>>737709525You've never had an original thought in your life
>>737708514You have to find those toads, you have to catch the rabbit, you have to unlock the cannon, you have to avoid the obstacles. In Odyssey there's just moons hanging around to walk up to with no challenge associated.
>>737709750You mean like the one that you have to defeat the boss for it to appear?
>>737688315>9 years ago that this would be the last time you ever got to play a new 3D Mario game?>9 years ago>got>past tenseKiddo. "9 years ago" was 2017.I haven't played a "new" Mario game since Mario Galaxy in 2007.Next you'll tell me>Mario Galaxy came out BEFORE I WAS BORN!>omg, the Wii is a retro-old platform!!>I'm an adult, now, you know!?!?Yikes.
>>737709750>walk up to, interact with object>walk up to, interact with objectI see no difference. (this is where you pretend like the Toads were extremely difficult to find and not plainly visible)
>>737709645i swear if any non-nintendo game achieved what this game does design and tech wise this board would never shut up about it
>>737709604No Delfino DLC was criminal.
>>737709604>Game gets DLC>Complain>Game doesn't get DLC>Complain
>>737709932you're making people up in your head and getting mad at them again, stop it
>>737709110I liked it enough as a sequel to 3D Land. Feels like they were trying to explore the level designs of that game as a balance between 2D mechanics with 3D platforming, if that makes sense. We hadn't really gotten traditional power-ups in 3D Mario games, like the Fire Flower or even a Super Mushroom, instead having temporary powers that run out and a life meter. It carries a lot of the mechanics and power-ups established in the NEW Super Mario games, that felt antiquated by the release of the Wii U, and reworked for a new 3D game.It also was fun as a multiplayer game, as I ended up playing it a ton with my kid sister on the Wii U. Everyone else can hate that console, but it had a good library of games that ended up being ported or got a sequel on Switch. The only one that didn't was Nintendo Land and that shit was so fucking good.
>>737709645yikes. you just posted a 6/10 in response to two 10/10 games.
>>737709795It's not a reward for a boss fight. I'm highlighting the difference between the first visit when you need 5 power moons and it's structured as a series of challenges that culminate in a boss fight, versus the moon that is now just 4 steps from the odyssey.
>>737688315Judging by Nintendo's mid streak (all of their games since Bananza have gotten 78, except for the one outsourced to KT), they're probably afraid to release one knowing it'll get panned.
>>737709932If any non-Nintendo tech demo was sold at a $70 premium this board would never shut up about it, but not for the reason you tendies think.
>>737710123Which is not there until after you beat the boss.
Bowser's Fury had everything perfect, a perfect combination of Odyssey and 3D World and they are pretty much just going to make it yet another BoTW inspired game like Bonanza.
We used to get a new game like every other year. That's why people came to love Super Mario as a franchise.
>>737688315I dont know.Swing my arms from side to side?
What the fuck even happened? Last I remember, the Switch came out swingin' with a brand spanking new Zelda and then a new Mario the same year. That should be the absolute baseline to launch a new console.
>>737710378Nothing. Nintendo is putting out hits that sell but they don't have hype. People just buy a lot.
>>737688315I don't believe you like platformers this much.
>>737709864There's a difference between the one that's hidden and the one that's just a few steps from the odyssey. If you see no difference you're retarded.
>>737710378>Last I remember, the Switch came out swingin' with a brand spanking new Zelda and then a new Mario the same year.Yeah they had a bunch of finished games that they intended for the previous console that also had jack shit on it for most of its life that they were now sitting on. Notice how Nintendo's output collapsed to just Labo and Smash in 2018.
>>737710378>brand spanking new ZeldaWrong.
>>737710423>Nintendo is putting out hits that sell but they don't have hypeSwitch 2 games have a worse attach rate than switch 1 games did.
>>737710629So what actually have these game developers been developing for the past 8 years?
>>737710423you are right nothing happens now with nintendo, and that's the problem. nothing in the way of interesting new ideas, nothing in the way of a steady stream of big hitter classic nintendo IP's. just a bunch of nothing burger games people forget after two weeks.
>>737710585Isn't that the one that is hidden in the rubble and you have to spin your hat in there to unlock it?
>>737710712It's the one that is plainly visible and you walk up to it and it's yours.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb4vi6H9fX0
>>737710708The ideas are under your left fat roll, second from the bottom. Hope this helps!
>>737710698According to the developer interviews? Mario Kart World, Bananza, Tomodachi Life
>>737710698Making a bunch of games
>>737710747Ah so it gets unlocked later
>>737710708You'll survive anon. Hang in there.
>>737710808May we see them?
>>737710698I will get back to you on that
>>737688426it's good it's just annoying to 100% because the minigames suck assgalaxy is way more fun to 100% (no I'm not counting doing everything twice as luigi, that's stupid)
>>737710787>Tomodachi LifeWow, fuck them. I hope they die.
>>737710764why am i not surprised you insult with a redditor child-like mentation.
>>737710868Yup it's all public information and searchable via google
>>737710848It's just sitting there, no matter how you dice it, it's just padding, it's just filler. I like substance, so it's a fairly dumb power moon.
>>737710910I was trying to help...
Odyssey was great. But it did have stupid ass bloat
>>737710941Such a terrible crime...unforgivable
>>737688315when Odyssey came out i'd waited 15 years since the last good 3D Mario, so having to wait 9 after Odyssey isn't a big deal.
So what games have Mario fans been playing now that their franchise has been dead for a decade?
I think 3d mario is objectively bad and I don't know why people play it.But hey, whatever slop floats your shitcanoe
>>737688517not when shit like 3D Land, 3D World, and Galaxy exist it isn't.
>>737711140Mario Odyssey
>>737711140Mario 64 over and over again
>>737688315I haven't touched a 3D Mario game since Galaxy. Fuck Nintendo.
>>737711220>these three better games exist so HAH!yes, yes they certainly do
>>737711140Odyssey 2
>>737688315Daily reminder that metroid fags waited 20 years for the two worst metroid games in the series.If they were 12 when the series came out, then they would be pushing 50.
>>737692245Is there any mod for Odyssey that removes these easy moons?Do we really have to wait for a decompilation + pc port to get a mod like this?
>>737706652Sandbox Levels>>>>>>>> Course Clearshit so i'm not surprised at all that people have that reaction.
>>737711319I don't think odyssey had a little girl on your back
>>737688426/v/ is snoy mumbai marketer central
>>737708525The flag isn't the end for that level. you can reach the flag and still have lost because you didn't get there fast enough. the end point is still the star.
>>737707113Diddy and Dixie literally reference Donkey Kong Country 2 which means it's not a prequel.
>>737711527Clearly an error. Please understand japan thinks the peak of DK was the arcade game.
>>737711408Courses would be fine if they were fun to play. The reason why new new new new new (new(new)) new super mario bros wonder (It's totally not new super mario bros) exists is that they're basically desperate to find something to make an antiquated way of playing mario entertaining.
>>737688315If I had just finished Odyssey then I don't think I would have cared much.It is the definition of an 8/10 game.
>>737711417Oh, that's Pauline. You meet her in New Donk City in the original game. Odyssey 2 is a prequel where you get to see her find her voice over the course of an adventure with DK. You should give it a try. Its really fun. It expands on a lot of ideas introduced in Odyssey 1.
>>737696193This was awesome, I hope we get more like it.
>>737688315I finished it last week. It was okay I guess. Doesn't have the same charm that Sunshine does, maybe because it can't stick to a single theme.
>>737696193It was referenced on both movies but not enough to belive Nintendo considers it mainline
>>737706542I liked Odyssey but I felt it was really hard to top Galaxy's presentation. Odyssey was still cool but I just thought it played it a bit safe visually. I felt the absence of the orchestra, too. I also wasn't a fan of how Odyssey shuffled you through each world one after the other instead of letting you unlock several worlds and tackle them in whatever order you want.
>>737711527a prequel to Odyssey, numbnuts
>>737712275a literal odyssey across the Mario universe was a way better presentation, arriving on the moon and objecting to the wedding was pure cinema
>>737711319You can never convince me this wasn't conceptually a 3D Yoshi game, with baby Pauline riding on his back through the wilderness.
>>737688315I'd say if this is all Nintendo can manage these days, I don't really care.
>>737688426It was fun yes in the same way Botw was “fun” it’s like they built these physics and environment for you to run around in but forgot the having a story and a connected world that makes any sort of sense. Oddysee is just a bunch of disjointed levels for you to run around and fuck as Mario and the physics engine in but none of it coalesced into an actual game.
>>737688426It's like SM64, if SM64 was directionless, uninspired and thought it had to jingle the keys at their ADHD addled player every 2 minutes.
>>737712393I did like that! But I came out saying "I want more." There were some pretty stand-out moments but then there were also times where I went "that's it?" The Bowser battles disappointed me but I loved his crazy Japanese castle. The opening was neat but the ending was so-so. I felt like the game was bending over backwards to show me so much "stuff" but for me presentation is more than "stuff," it's tone. It was more bombastic but didn't have the same feel as baking the cake in 64 or the universe resetting in Galaxy.
>>737712631>previous Mario games had coherent level design and complex storyffs these people
>>737688315While it would not be unbelievable, it would shock me. I would have assumed that 9 years on there would have been at least 1 new 3D Mario game, probably 2.>>737688426Ironically, the game has the exact same issue as BotW>Playing it for the first time, blind, it is fucking amazing. Something new around every corner. Genuinely feels like a 10/10, you're just exploring and having fun>Ever playing it again: You're doing dumb little microtasks to collect a stupid amount of moons and you can't help but feel like the short sections are due to overdesigning for the hand held part of the SwitchI think that is the game's biggest flaw. Lack of difficulty is one too, but the game was more about exploration rather than raw challenge and I consider thinking creatively to be part of a challenge too and there was certainly a lot of that in the game. Obviously I want it to be harder too, I just mean that it was not a game meant to be a quarter-muncher, it was meant to be organically explored, like BotW. That exploration can only happen once.
>>737711402Grim
>>737712560It wasn't, the developers have spoken about how they pioneered the terrain destruction in Mario Odyssey and made better prototypes, and then began to work on Donkey Kong with it.
>>737712872>didn't have the same feel as baking the cake in 64the fuck you talking about, Peach mentions it at the beginning, and you get a ending card with a cake, it ain't shit compared to Odyssey's lows
I tire of these threads where people pretend to be fans of a series simply so they can talk about how much they hate the series.It's not even in a "it would be cool if [game] had [feature]" way. There you can tell the person actually played something in the series and wants to talk about how it could change or improve. It's just a blatant false flag of hatred without any indication of playing anything.
>>737692274You sound like some kid who expects a buffet of new food every single dinner, 365 times a year. Not that you'd choose eat dish, no; you're only going to eat from the pizza line. BUT YOU DESERVE THE CHOICES!!!
Odyssey is the bridge between the games and the movies. Quantity over quality and key jangling references for the goyim.
>>737713452300 days for sure, 65 of those days are left overs.
>>737713551You probably felt so cool typing that out
>>737713551The movies were good thoughbeit
>>737713592You probably felt so smart not refuting it.
>>737713429There's no way to improve Sunshine, it's so shitty that it needs an entire overhaul. There's no way to improve Odyssey, it's a perfect 10/10 game.
>>737713132>overdesigning for handheld??? it's a handheld game
>>737713701Sunshine is the only game I can think of that was fucked even from the earliest conceptual phase. I would never ever play a platformer entirely set on countless beach-themed stages. That's like the lamest level theme of all.
>>737712768SM64 is the most directionless and uninspired one. Odyssey is a work trek to thwart the wedding. You collect power moons and the finale happens on the moon itself.
>>737713861>Odyssey is... work
>>737713841>Sunshine is the only game I can think of that was fucked even from the earliest conceptual phase.It's true, the main designer is quoted as saying>I started out with the idea of giving Mario a water gunIt was fucked-fucked
>>737713841I kinda like the theming of Sunshine. Makes Island Delfino feel very different from the Mushroom Kingdom. Also, I know someone else posted about "muh water", but it really does a lot for me, personally. It looks really good for it's time, and I like what they try to do to mix-up the beach-themed stages by having interior segments like the hotel. I get the complaint tho, but I think they do enough to make each stage feel different.
>>737713670Ah, you caught me. I can't refute it. You're right, anon. Your bing bing wahoo not being up to your standards was all a jewish psyop. Watch your back. People as valuable as you are constantly being followed.
>>737711319>please like Bananza>please like Bananza>please like Bananza>please like Bananza>please like Bananza
>>737714142>EPD8 game with Mario>greatest game ever 10/10 I love nintendo>EPD8 game with DK>worst slop ever total baby game insult to my entire favelaIts honestly bizarre
>>737713362I just liked it, idk what else to say. It's straightforward and comfy.>grab the Big Power Star>fly away with the Wing Cap>Peach emerges from the stained glass castle>"Let's bake a cake... for Mario!">Mario looks back at the playerIt's all stuff that personally appeals to me. That's it, I'm not saying Odyssey is worse, I'm just saying I like the way other Mario games handle their endings. 64 doesn't go out with a bang, it goes out with a sigh.
>>737688426For a game rated 96 on metacritic(tm) i found it to be quite bland and not that special. It's not bad by any means but i failed to see the hype, it's weird since for me Wonder was a much better entry and it basically was NSMB 2.5.Now with Bananza out it's pretty much impossible to discuss Odyssey 2 else you get a flock of DKfuckers crying that they should just do Bananza 2 instead of Odyssey 2Whatever, the next 3D Mario will most likely be a lame barren open world BotW wannabe with 900 toads to find
>>737714472>the next 3D Mario will most likely be a lame barren open world BotW wannabe with 900 toads to findThat would be awesome
>>737714458Odyssey is far comfier.>Tim Burton world>swimming resort worlds>cloud world>food world
>>737688315After college classes I went to the midnight release for this game with my Dad and my younger brother. Now Dad's dead, that brother has crippling schizophrenia, my degree hasn't done shit for me because of the economy, and I don't even have a new 3D Mario to play.
>>737713429>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THIS GAME YOU LIKE IS FLAWED>YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DICKRIDE IT
>>737688315I would have kissed them and slip them a lot of tongue. :P
>>737714885Learn to read you thick fuck. I say there's no indication the person has ever played it, not that they can't criticize it.
>>737714972Describe one of these posts because every post in this thread applies to whichever game is being described
>>737711319>Wokey Kong Bore-nanzaYikes! No thanks!
>>737714185>please like Bananza>please like Bananza>please like Bananza>please like Bananza>please like Bananza
>>737715148>>737714185
>>737715272I don't care if you like it or not. Just pointing out that Mario fans are a fickle bunch
>>737711140Other games
>>737711140mario odyssey I'm currently getting all of the purple coins
>>737709110To me, it's the most successful "introduce a new thing/mechanic every level that revolves around it" style of design we've gotten from the series. It's consistently throwing new things or ideas at the player each level, and each level feels long enough to to actually make use of them.
I rarely cry, but this whole segment made me bawl my eyes out on release. I figured I was having a weird day and shrugged it off afterwards to preserve my manhood, replayed the game 5 years later and cried even harder that time.
>>737716234Eh, I cry for almost anything, but this isn't emotional at all, terrible falseflag.
Good. 3D Mario games deserve more time. And I believe it will be immeasurably hard to make a new game better than Odyssey
>>737716234same
>>737716305It was very emotional to me. I'm just old enough to remember when the most modern video games looked like this. Realizing how far things have come since I was a child felt overwhelmingly beautiful.
Just two old men. Fighting in the middle of nowhere over nothing.
>>737688315Why do you think Nintendo has decided to give up on curated level design? We don't get as many developer insights as we did back in the 2010's but for the few we have from more recent games post-Iwata Asks, it's been somewhat alarming how many leads seem actively hostile or dismissive of crafted experiences, compared to open-concept "here's a bunch of tools, do what you want" type games.
>>737716654I stood up and clapped at this part
>>737716716Because that's what the market wants. That's what younger gamers tastes dictate.
I'd say "huh?"
>>737716851they were both rather presumptuous wouldn't you agree?
>>737713762Anon means that because they made it with the Switch in mind and it's probable, they make it with the mindset that you get small rewards in bite sized chunks every play session in case you are playing it on the go
>>737716975No. Especially since Peach has kissed Mario before.
>>737717028a thank you kiss doesn't really entitle you to marriage or whatever that's absolutely deranged thinking
>>737716851incel
>>737717112No one mentioned marriage except for Gay Bowser.>>737717121kike
>>737688315I would've cared a lot more than I do today. I'm ready for Mario to go the way of Mickey Mouse to be honest. Nobody gave a fuck about Mickey shortly after his original VA died, and I feel the same way about Mario no longer being voiced by Martinet. It just feels like slop now.
>>737688465I had some issues with the lack of game overs and every level being too large. You can feel a bit of that Ubisoft Sandbox element creeping in, especially as Moons are way too frequent.But other than that I don't really empathize with people who say it's a bad or boring game. I wonder what it is you expected and what you're getting from it. 3D Mario is all about being in different worlds and jumping around and finding stuff and jumping on enemies heads.If that's what you find boring, then I guess it's because you don't like Mario games.
>>737717179>his original VA diedWell yeah, Mickey was voiced by Walt himself. He's the single most important businessman and producer in the history of animation. Martinet's the best Mario voice Nintendo's had, but he wasn't the first. He was just a guy auditioned off the street.
>>737712917Some did
>>737688315Nin10doland, you waited this long for a 3D Mario you can wait one more year for it.
>>737688315It's crazy how schizo Nintendo is when it comes to milking certain things and not milking certain things. They easily could have made an Odyssey 2 or spinoff if they wanted. It would have sold well.
>>737711319they did not spend 8 years just on this, and Koizumi is not in the credits. Odyssey only took 4 years and it was a bigger game than Bananza.
>>737717453I would love an online fps Metroid, Hunters was quite fun
>>737717630>bigger game than BananzaThis just isn't true at all
>>737717270This is a pretty reductive way to describe 3D mario64 and Sunshine were both about figuring out how to get collectables. These functioned as puzzles essentially and often had fun and clever scenarios backing them. You jump and run to find these collectables, enemies honestly were a pretty minor part of both of these games outside of bosses. These early 3D mario games were all about exploring and figuring out HOW to get the stars and shines. Jump to Galaxy, and now its all about level design. Interesting gimmicks and environments basically fuel those 2 games. Odyssey has a taste of all of those things but is never overly interesting and the moons never feel exciting to figure out. There are so many of them, all very simple and obvious to get, and due to the free roam nature you're never going "ok how do I get this next one", thinking about the name attached to it and trying to figure it out. The levels certainly have gimmicks but they're more novelties rather than fun and creative obstacles. Not bad but doesn't leave a strong impression like Galaxy (2 especially).
>>737717179Mickey's had multiple VAs, same as many mascots. Just par the course. Everyone has their favorite (obviously most of us grew up with Wayne Allwine) and it was tragic when he passed but it happens
>>737688315i dont think id want modern nintendo to make a new one
>Writes the story for Link's awakening>Isn't allowed to lead a Zelda project anymore, get demoted to Co-director>Does pretty much all of the really cool shit in Majora's Mask, does at least half the executive work for the game>Kicked off the Zelda team, Aonuma given all the credit for Majora's mask in interviews, Aonuma fucks the game over in the 3Ds remake>Sneaks a fun little side story for Rosalina in Mario Galaxy taht players love>Galaxy 2 made deliberately bland and charmless as possible, Rosalina's a 10 second cameo you only get for 100% completion at the end of the balls-hard perfect run. Completely retconned for a retarded new story in the Mario Galaxy movie, given less screentime than fucking Fox McCloud>Directs Mario Odyssey and adds in a ton of new characters and locales, the game is an enormous hit>No new 3D Mario in 9 years, longer period of than the gap between Mario 3 and Mario 64. No Broodals, Tostarenas, New Donkers etc in spinoff games. Cappy gets a single taunt in Smash brothers>Leads the Nintendo directs after Iwata dies, does pretty good with it>No more Nintendo directs, only a dogshit app for announcements nowWhy the fuck does Nintendo sabotage everything Koizumi touches so fucking hard, even at massive detriment to their own product? They're petty towards him at old testament levels.
>>737717712Praising Galaxy in the same post as dismissing Odyssey is insane. Have you played Galaxy recently, without nostalgia goggles? That fucking game is slower and emptier than Banjo-tooie.
>>737717909My favorite is the unhinged one from the Paul Rudish shorts a few years back. How the fuck does he speak like 8 different languages?
>>737718075It's supposed to be. It takes place in the vast stillness of space. Go back to your beaches.
>>737718075I'm more of a 64 (and somewhat sunshine) guy but I think Galaxy has a focus Odyssey doesn't and Galaxy 2 pushes it to a much more interesting level. Point is, I think if you're a big Galaxy fan, its strengths are not really that present in Odyssey. Its KINDA there but I really didn't find the obstacles in each level to be super engaging or clever.
>>737718229Galaxy 2 is for sure the better game, if at least the level gimmicks are a lot more focused in that one.But yeah 64 is still my favorite, for the physics system. The wacky stuff you can do with cap dives keeps Odyssey high up for me.
i already stopped giving a shit about tendieslop before Mario Sunshine game out. do i look like a fag to you? Runescape, FFX, KH1, MGS2, etc all were new/newish at the time, why the fuck would i play tendie shit in 2002 or 2026?
>>737718320>The wacky stuff you can do with cap dives keeps Odyssey high up for me.It's literally the same move every single time. I have a key jangling DVD I want to sell you.
>>737718151That guy's just really talented. He was also Moe in that live action Three Stooges movie they did in the early 2010s
>>737718365unc crashin out
>>737718365>30+ years old thinking he's a badass for disliking Mario
>>737688315I would tell you to wait another 5 years, because nintendo takes quite a while to do actual 3D platformers
>>737718434i was 9 in 2002 when i was already done with tendieshit
>>737718556Woah so mature
>>737718225Is that the Dolphin from Pikmin? Don't remember this stage for some reason
>>737718594I don't know what that means but alright
>>737718390And Galaxy has even less moves to offer, your point?
>>737718781You do, and that's why you responded.
SM64 ROM hacks are better than anything Nintendo will ever make anyway.
>>737717981We will get a new Nintendo Direct.
>*Random thing* Galaxy>have less than 20 planets>most don't even have their own stars>full of small blackholesGalaxy is such a stupid name
>>737718812No one pretends that Galaxy (2) is good because of le meme move, doebeit. It has actual positives like purple star challenges.
>>737718390It's a gameplay mechanic that you use throughout the game to expressive your movement. Actual Key-jangling slop is 80% of Mario Wonder.
>>737718982nta but I kinda dislike the spastic movements of that "tech"
>>737718826If it makes you sleep at night sure
>>737717981This is a dumb conspiracy and you know it.>muh movieThe Storybook Backstory was marketed as its own product and expanded upon in the Switch game. Who cares if it isn’t in the film.>muh 3D MarioIt’s not like we had tons of ports of older 3D Marios to hold us over from the drought after Odyssey, OH WAIT.>muh directsThey’re not dead just cause we didn’t get a general one in February, we’re at least guaranteed one in June to show us the latter half of 2026’s games.
>>737719190>we’re at least guaranteed one in June to show us the latter half of 2026’s games.Are you sure about that?
>>737688315they haved 3d allstars, galaxy 1+2 remasters aswell they will be okay
>>737720345>tendies like this are going to be so fucking ass mad when nintendo eventually reveals a 3d mario But why?
>>737688315Wouldn't care. I feel like that very image itself embodies a lot wrong with modern nintendo and their practically nonexistent level/game design.
>>737720743Probably whatever same reason some are actively happy that we aren't getting a Direct or new game announcements. No fucking idea.
>>737722325>anon actually believes coping faggots are happyi kekd
>>737696193>Do people forget that Bowser's Fury exists?No, they didn'tSchizo doomposters are trying to meme a "dark age" of Mario for a really long time nowBut the funny thing about doomposting Mario of all things is that they have to omit some big titlesBack in the day they used the New series to doompost and ommited the rest, especially the 3D gamesNow after Wonder and the New series being over all they can do is focus on the "lack" of 3D games while omitting Bowser's FuryReminds me a little of Zelda after Tears of the Kingdom and how there's was not much to doompost about so they went "but what about classic Zelda???" (and then Echoes of Wisdom came out)In the end is all concern trolling
>>737723062>concern trollingyes we get it you learned that phrase a few months ago
>>737723062>obviously there's no dark age of Mario games going on!>>oh?>yeah, it'd have to have games to begin with for there to be one!>>>DOHOHOHOHO
>>737723283Why are you so mad?
>>737723398you're the one over here hatching conspiracy theories about people being out to get Mario
>>737688315I would say "you're retarded" because you're retarded
>>737723283>>737723320>>737723346>>737723445Man, I really struck a nerveBullseye
>Man, I really struck a nerve>Bullseye
>>737704830Well, Torna was certainly meaty enough to count as at least a new experience. Maybe not a game, but for the purposes of ending a "drought" I'd say it accomplished that goal. Same with Octo Expansion.
>tendies point to Bowser's fury, a 2 hour dlc shipped with 3D to tell fans to shut the fuck up about no 3D Mario games in a decadeHonestly the strangest behavior. Lil bro's gonna seethe so hard when they reveal the next 3D Mario and it baffles me as to why.
>>737710585You are incredibly autistic.
>>737688315It's okay. I'm ready for Mario to evolve into a higher form of gameplay and become a FPS.
>>737688315How is this game, which was worked on by a completely different team of people than 90s Nintendo, any different than the various ROM hacks coming out? Neither are "real" Mario games. The band (Miyamoto and Tezuka) broke up.
>>737711140All of the Mario games that have come out since then. Which is weird, because according to you they shouldn't exist.
>>737723876Didn't Sega and Sonicfags did this with Sonic X Shadow Generations?That is just a port of Sonic Generations with a new Shadow campaign but they act like it's a complete new game Naming it Sonic Generations + Shadow Generations would have been more honest
>>737714142>>737715272>please like <insert game here>>please like <insert game here>>please like <insert game here>>please like <insert game here>Every single thread on /v/, including the ones you make. And every single one of you is shilling all those games in all those threads, begging people to play them.
>>737717309List the ones with complex story and explain how Odyssey "doesn't have coherent level design".
>>737724274Except Bananza isn't a good game, and you're an infantilized retard who prefers dopamine hits over proper level design.
>>737723062Echoes of Wisdom sucked dick
so that's the kind of thread this is going to turn into huh
>>737695996The fun from 3dworld comes from playing with friends, you have those, right anon?
>>737723876>2 hour dlcNah, 10 hours and it's vastly different than any other Mario.
>>737688426In the context of the Galaxy/NSMB era it makes perfect sense. The presentation of Mario by that point had been quite samey for nearly a decade. The whole fairytale orchestral space thing went on too long and Osyssey restored some of the punchiness and energy to Mario again. It has more in common in feeling with 64 and Sunshine than Galaxy, it has some of the "attitude" back. They even riff on this intentionally or otherwise in the presentation of the game itself. The Wooded Kingdom starts off musically like it's going to have a Galaxy-esque with that build up soundtrack and then immediately subverts you by going into a funky jam. And likewise they prime you to expect similar when you fight Bowser but instead he starts kicking ass with a dad rock song. Idk the whole game was like a tonal leap for Mario after being stuck in a certain mode for so long and I really loved it for that.
>>737724351Define "proper level design" and why you think Bananza doesn't have it.
>>737726310Having a challenging line between you and the objective. Not this.
>>737723773>>737723863Yeah, you sure showed him, now give us your dances of victory.
>>737723876>THIS 3D GAME DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAINTAIN MY DECLARATION THAT MARIO IS DOOMED AND ALL MARIO FANS ARE THE DEMONS OF MY NIGHTMARES!!!
>>737726368There are plenty of challenging lines. Why are you shitting your balls off in retard rage over this? Did you scream in fury when you found materia just lying on the ground in FF7?
>>737726551Is this a song that he sang and danced to? Doesn't really apply to what I said.
>>737688315People who only want Mario platformers are basically Chris Chan
>>737723876>Lil bro's gonna seethe so hard when they reveal the next 3D Mario and it baffles me as to why.The "Lil bro" is you.
>every level is just some random fucking block floating in the airI didn't feel like I was going on an adventure around the world. These places didn't feel part of any world at all. They're just as abstract as Mario 64 levels.
>>737725405>The fun comes from playing with friendsThat's how you know a game is shit
>>737723876I too love to imagine things and project them on my enemies.
>>737707680I love 64 but Tall Tall Mountain is ass.
>>737725405Anything is fun with friends
>>737727501How
>>737711319Donkey Dogshit.
>>737713429but this is literally the case with nu-tendo. everything after SMO has been mid to trash and creatively bankrupt.
>>737723876>>737724209Standards have been lowered so badly that a side campaign is treated like a big deal. DLC is seen as 'eating good'. It's not even on them, it's the companies intentionally doing the bare minimum and the masses going to bat for their low effort in order to shut down the complainers who are 'entitled' and 'ungrateful'.in 2007 you had Galaxy and a fair amount of games inbetween until 2016 when Odyssey was teased. In 2017 you had Odyssey...and a few handful of games leading to today where we are.Never mind 1997 to 2007, and if you want to count DK, Wario and so on, the amount of games from that period over the span of a decade is insane. Infinite growth was a mistake.
>>737729725>Bowser's Fury >Bare MinimumI'd agree with you but Bowser's Fury is fantastic
>>737729916Anon, it's not even the main attraction, just a justification to buy an otherwise unchanged port. Don't lower your standards.
>>737688315We have had all of this released since Odyssey came out>7 Mario Sports and Party games slop>2 Mario Rabbids slop>Mario & Luigi Brothership>Galaxy 1>Galaxy 2>Sunshine>64>Luigis Mansion 3>Luigis Mansion 2>Paper Mario the Origami King>Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door HD>Mario Maker 2 >Mario Kart 8 DX + DLC>Mario Kart World>3D World>Bowsers Fury If you do not interact with Mario as a whole, you will cry about 9 years when Bowser fury came out in 2021.
>>737730047Except it was changed, downgraded even, in 3D World WiiU you could scream "SECRET" at the gamepad and the hidden blocks and floor would shimmer, also small enemies would fly away, it also basically had 5 player coop.The only good changes were increasing the speed of the characters and adding a pointer for each player(4 in total, a good exchange for a 5th player tho no one uses this anyway).I wasn't planning on double dipping, not a huge fan of 3D world but Bowser's Fury is a great experiment, for a "side campaign" it has very good level design, satisfying progress and Fury Bowser attacking made the game a bit dynamic, I didn't like that they reused areas for many Catshines so I couldn't replay it without restarting it, and the boss battles are disappointing but the game itself is one of the best 3D Marios, it's what 3D world should have always been.
>>737699515I never said it was bad but it isn't better than Odyssey.
>>737730346People outside your fanboy cult don't think like this.
no part of me considers this a 3D mario to begin withthat would require it to be about running and jumping and not transformations and ground pounding circles and other korok tier """puzzles""" that make the wii waggle shit seem like effort in retrospectthen they go on to make bananza which was the worst part of this 1 minute star formula plus shrines and gives me even less hope mario is ever going to be a platformer ever again
>>737731204Have you ever played a Mario game?
>>737688315I would say "at least we got a fantastic and meaty game for this long fucking wait"
>>737729725I feel bad for Wiiners>Galaxy>NSMB>Galaxy again100% they bought SM64 off the virtual console and just played that. Nobody was playing fucking Sunshine lmao
>>737730396I am seriously considering the double dip right now. I am getting antsy. I got 3D World for Wii U for $20 brand new. I loved it. I really want to play Bowser's Fury. At full price, as it always is, I will have spent $80 on 3D World. I can justify it as making a statement. I love the game, it's way way more worthwhile than fucking Switch 2 Mario Wonder. I can't justify $80 for that. I could bend over backwards and say I'm getting a $20 discount on 3D World Switch 2. Unironically. I am a sick boy.
How does nintendo fuck up a flagship game series like this?
>>737732204wdym
>>737705365I like Sunshine, I played 64 on my N64 and then Sunshine on our gamecube when I was a kid. Played 64 more though. I think Sunshine scared me with that metal mario guy.
>>737705365t. Slightly older Zoomer
>>737705365Gamecube is millennialcore.
>>737734648i'm on the young end of millennials and had PS2/GC/PC and my GC was straight up neglected. i only played Twin Snakes, Crystal Chronicles, and a GBA adapter for FFTA because PS2 and PC had the real games. hell i had my uncles xbox on the weekends too and i'd choose any one of Fable, Jade Empire, or NGB over any GC game
>>737734882>I didn't use it therefore no one else did
>>737734913i didn't say that, just giving an anecdote and reminder that GC is easily the worst system of its gen, as is typical of Nintendo every gen after the SNES
>>737688315
>>737734997Uh huh
>>737727501>Bob-omb Battleshit>Whomp's Shitfest>Jolly Roger Cock>Cool, Cool Shit Fountain>Big Boo's Shit>Jenna Haze Cave>Lethal Assrape Land>Shitting Sand Land>Dire, Dire Cocks>Blow Mans Land>Wet-Vagine World>Tall, Tall Moun my Ass>Tiny-Huge Penis>Tick Tock Shit>Rainbow Ass Fuck
>>737737185One cannot recreate this pic for Odyssey because it has almost no memorable mission-based stars. It’s all just finding them scattered in random spots. The comparisons of Odyssey to 64/Sunshine don’t even make sense when the game doesn’t actually have the same setup of hub world > mission-based sandbox courses
>>737688315I remember criticizing this game on here a few years ago and tendie cultists swarming the thread acting like I just murdered their dog and grandma.
>>737688427This, sort of. My second son was born in 2017. He's now old enough to have a Switch Lite and he's played a bunch of games through Nintendo Online. Nintendo has four decades' worth of good games and kids still take the same amount of time to grow up. It's like movies. Eventually there's enough of a backlog of classics you can legit just grow up on the classics.
>>737737385>One cannot recreate this shit for Odyssey because it fucks almost no memorable mission-based cocks. It’s all just shitting blood scattered in random ass. The cumparisons of Odyssey to 64/Shitshine don’t even suck cock when the game doesn’t actually fuck the same ads of hub world > mission-based shitbox courses
>>7376959963D World is better than Odyssey and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Great game.
>>737688315Good riddance if this was the best they could come up with. If they're not gonna make levels worth playing then they shouldn't bother making a game at all. The fags who somehow liked Odyssey can just replay it forever, not like there's much more you can do with another game's worth of empty levels and minimal platforming challenges.
>>737688315We could have had less droughts if Nintendo didn't cater to the nostalgiabait trend back for a majority of the 2010's prior to Odyssey. 3D World underperforming as a Wii U exclusive basically backed them into a corner where Odyssey basically HAD to be made just to make Mario profitable and relevant again, this also got the shareholders and executives to fuck off for a bit because they also knew the company needed a big game again with Mario's dwindling relevance in the later half of the Wii U era.
>>737738432I always thought 3D World fans looked like bitches. To be honest, the kind of guy who thinks 3D World is anything but a bottom of the barrel Mario game is probably the kind of twink faggot that I'd fuck if I met him in a dark alley. I can just imagine myself overpowering him, growing erect as he quivers in fear of a real man. I could probably secure both his wrists with one hand, and pull his pants down to his thighs with the other. I'd enter him missionary, to complete my dominance of him.See, men enter each other from behind bent over like animals blindly following their instincts. But a woman, a woman you enter while facing her. You look her in the eye to watch the look in her face as she takes your length. I'd do the same with this fag. I'd slip myself inside his tight hole, and jackhammer that shit until his prostate was throbbing with pleasure. Honest to God, it would give me perverse pleasure to watch his eyes roll into the back of his head as I flooded his boyhole with cum, and then went back to my life of enjoying Galaxy 2 as the best 3D Mario game
>>737739242>64, Sunshine, or Odyssey style movement with actual momentum and freedom>3D world or Galaxy style levels with actual obstacles and challengeWhy can't Nintendo just do this? Pseudoregalia is so close to my perfect dream game for doing that and it's a blatantly unfinished tech demo.
>>737737581>11 years old>old enough to have a switch(lite)>nowPoor kid
>>737740525>11 years oldThis anon is living in the future
>>737713452I like buffets sure. Nothing wrong with eating at a buffet
>>737742978Buffets are gross. I don't want the rabble of the street passing through my meal, nor do I desire food that sat under a heat lamp for half an hour before I eat it.
>>737743359Where do you live that you have such shitty buffets?
>>737737185kek
>>737744102Your mom's house, the buffet is her ass
>>737745283rude
