hearthstone is finally good againcome back
I play Chillwind Yeti on Turn 4!
>>737690395GodDAMN look at all that value
>>737690395>not playing it on turn 1 with coin+innervate>not having it sapped right after
>>737690327imagine not looking at hearthstone since Gadgetzan and seeing this card. what the fuck does it even do?
>>737690472and don't forget to hit the sorry emote
>>737690395I enjoyed Hearthstone until late 2016.I hate power creep so much.
>deathwing doing pole dancethis shit is gay as fuck
>>737690535hearthstone has always been like that, plenty of cards where the text on the card doesn't explain shit since classic.
>>737690535Deathwing starts off with "Battlecry: Choose one Cataclysm", which are>Summon a 12/12 Dragon>Deal 4 damage to all enemy minions>Destroy the Highest HP enemy minion.>Shuffle 5 legendary Dragons into your deck, they all cost 1.Playing two Herald cards upgrades him to 2 choices, and playing 4 Herald cards means you activate all 4 (and basically win the game, there's usually no coming back from wiping their board and playing a 12/12)
>>737690395
>>737690395*forfeits*
stopped playing in season 2, show me the most broken/stupid/abhorrent card to date
>>737690938this has gotta be one of the worst they've madeone-sided board clear and your opponent can't rebuild their board on their turn, plus your hero power changes every turn and all of them are really good
>>737690838What the fuck is a herald card? Where are his stats? What is the shield symbol and why does he have 12 of it? Is that armor? How does a minion have armor? What are the three commas on the right? This isn't fucking hearthstone anymore.
>>737691076>What the fuck is a herald card?herald effect summons a little dude, unique to each class, and every time you do it it powers up your big finisher card>Where are his stats? What is the shield symbol and why does he have 12 of it? Is that armor? How does a minion have armor? What are the three commas on the right?replaces your hero and gives you the specified amount of armor, basically the same as jaraxxus
>>737690938this was cancer
>>737691185YOU FACE JARAXXUS!EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION!!!
>>737691185i see. there's apparently an entire new type of card now that just replaces your hero power. also there's fucking starcraft in the game now i guess.
>>737691410there was last season yeah, there was a space based set and they decided to bring in star craft for its expansion
>>737691053the fact this also didn't even trigger deathrattles was just icing on the cakeit was ridiculous
>>737690395>You have bested me.
>>737690327Play eternal card game instead.>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs>ex-Magic devs
>>737691549I played it during early access and some during launch, but it lacked fun decks at the time
>>737691410>new type of card that replaces your hero power
>>737691410StarCraft has always been the better franchise.
>>737691053How many times did they nerf it?
>>737691701Starcraft had a grand total of 2 games, only 1 of which was good
>>7376917534 times
>>737691875pure incompetence
>>737690395>concedes4/5 for 4 mana is busted bro.
>>737690327I don't believe youI want the old gods meta back
Monk class when
>>737693262monk is their "break glass in case of emergency"
>>737693262>NEW CLASSES WHENkiss yourself
>>737690327Well met!
Wow...
>>737693337That was DK and DH and it only made the game worse
>>737693451well yeah but it got a lot of people to come back (temporarily at least), and monk will do the same
I played end of turnadin blind last night and my "one loss before bed" became 19 wins 1 loss.Havent played since vacation set... the game seems kinda lacking in skilled players.
>>737693498>how to kill the game for a 2 hours spike
>>737690327I will never ever give blizzard money anymore
>>737693549You only got shitters to make you stay, retard
>>737690327are there any viable control decks in standard?
>>737693640Im retarded for NOT believing there are secret systems that allow me to win so i keep playing. Okay vtard.
>>737693697no
>>737693968you're probably playing against bots kek
>>737694284I guess if there are bots who play like players and emote and take time, all the way to legend... you are weird and dumb
>>737690838>there's usually no coming back from wiping their board and playing a 12/12)I've seen how this plays out
>>737691053why does he look gay?
>>737690327i stopped playing hearthstone after the first expansion where they introduced the 1/2 undead guy for the hunter guy and he was busted op. they dont know balance, and by extension, funi think his quote is "bring out the dead"
>>737694775Aggro is always the most common type of deck. The snowball simply started on turn 2 or turn 1 if you had the coin. They were simply too slow with balancing the game.
>>737693549Those were bots
>>737694678I miss when Shadowba was good
>>737690395>not turn 3 with coinngmi
>>737690327I logged in to claim my free shit, and closed it almost immediately after I was done. I'm too tired of daily goyim quests to earn your sheckels to not lose on your time gated monopoly currency value. I have enough with my actual job to wagecuck at a videogame.I don't think I'm playing another game with daily quests ever again. And this is one of the most "pay to have fun" games to ever be monetized.
>>737690327I only play Battlegrounds. You don't have to buy packs and it requires you to think on your feet to make your board as optimal as possible
I watched a couple of Hearthstone youtube videos relatively recently and it looked like the powercreeping had gotten so severe that decks were explicitly just broken vs. broken. There was no possible way to deck your opponent because they seemed to always have infinite value of a million billion discovered cards and generated cards and random effects. All cards played seemed grotesquely overpowered.So it seems like they just abandoned the idea of a more balanced game and just went for sparkly lights and flashing colours no brain involved.
>>737695879Sorry I used my coin on turn 1 after preparation
>>737696182that's not anything new, game's been a slot machine since yogg-saron
>>737691875>they removed the "It's high noon!" part
>>737696537Overwatch voice actor drama?
>>737696698Yeah. Mccree was renamed. Macaree was renamed. Afrasaibi was renamed. Women paintings were replaced with fruit
>>737696537Yeah. Turns out limiting to one minion was basically game ending and annoying
>>737697314I'm talking about the flavor text only.
>>737696182Yes its full casual now. Any schmuck can generate a win condition by mindlessly playing cards. Swing tempo 100 -100 every turn fuck it. They probably get a lot more casual money this way, compared to balanced rewarding of thinking and planning.
I think I might enjoy card games If I only play them for the first year when they are out. Or maybe Year 2 when there's a bit more of a card pool without there being that overly dense point that comes later in a card games life. I think playing 1-3 cards per turn depending on archetype is where I find enjoyment.
>>737690327Stopped playing in 2024 and havent regretted quitting yet
>>737697964what made you quit?
>>737698205Perils in Paradise was the last straw. The fact that it was clear they were cutting costs. Low effort trailer, terrible set theme, bad game design decisions, game was just less fun. I think this was around the time they announced that they wouldnt be giving out new boards each expansion anymore too. Even if the game wasnt turning to shit the fact that the game started having huge crashing issues for me helped me finally quit. I had been playing since GVG, Game was obviously declining/stagnating for years but it never got that bad and there were a few bright spots even in the post brode years. The last good year of hearthstone for me was 2022 with sunken city,
>>737691053This is probably my most hated card in Wild. Absolutely retarded
>>737694689It's a Blizzard game
>>737690938context: infuse means "when X friendly minions die while this is in your hand" so by the time you could play this it would regularly deal 20-30+ damage >>737691239this used to be 4 mana btw
>>737693262it's heavily speculated that the third expansion this year will introduce monk into the game (and will be revealed at blizzocn)
>>737690327They're really running out of ideas aren't they? This is whole expansion is just galakrond's awakening but worse because there's no single player adventure and it's about deathwing instead.
>>737693558A standard practice
used to play this game, but there are 2 things i didn't like1- a lot of your cards had expiration dates and the game was stingy as fuck2-you could hardly build a cohesive theme with one aesthetic like murloc, most decks were just goodstuff piles that all looked the same.i prefer yugioh tbdesu
>>737699274i'm not recommending you the game but both of these things changed a lotnow most decks are some prebuilt package (to the point it's often boring) and the game is way more f2p friendly
>hearthstone is finally good againdid they reintroduce patron warrior?
>>737699274The game is much more generous with cards than it used to be. But to compensate there are way more paid cosmetics.
>>737699356Oh okay, so can i like make a good dragon only deck?I think i dropped the game a few months after they gave shaman a 7/7 for 4 mana, that thing was busted
>>737699358patron warrior was too hard for even prosfiltered even ropecoach
>>737699571Damn I knew pros were dedicated shitters but come on
>>737695879>he didn't get first turnngmi
>>737699561yesnow you get a 4 mana 6/8 elusive dragon lmao (tl note: elusive means faerie dragon effect)
>>737699663Does hearthstone give a big advantage to the player going first?
>>737699561>can i like make a good dragon only deckONLY dragons, and no other types of minions? Probably not but dragon warrior is quite good at the moment and it's like 50% dragons and cards that interact with dragons, 40% fire spells + spell damage package, and 10% generally good cards.
>>737699495>>737699716Guess i will give the game another try then, thank you
>>737699735i have no idea how it is now but back when I played (when chillwind yeti was good in arena) first turn was always better
>>737691701>tfw no Galaxy of Starcraftwould be superior to WoW slop anyday
>>737699815you say that now until modern blizzard gets their hands on it
>>737699274Yugioh is the definition of playing against a deck with no theme around it, just a bunch of random cards together for no reason other that theyre good.When was the last time you played against a pure archtype deck, no random tech cards like ash blossom that all they serve is to be discarded once for a negate and thats it, no, a pure archtype that only uses cards of that archtype?
>>737697348The flavour text was there because the original effect limited you to just one board slot after. Without it the text doesn’t really fit anymore. I think they even changed Reno’s line about it being a showdown as well.
>>737690327I shant
>>737699865>I think they even changed Reno’s line about it being a showdown as well.That line made no sense to begin with because it implies that you're in a one-on-one duel, except only your opponent was limited to one minion. The nerf that the card should've gotten is that it limits your own board to one slot as well.
>>737690395The fact that Yeti isn't playable anymore is why Fartstone is shit.
>>737699864That's a retarded bar to set. Complaining about archetypes being "impure" when other games don't even HAVE archetypes.
>>737699772look up dragon warrior, it's one of the best decks right now and extremely cheap as well (can use only commons and rares besides free cards and still be competitive)
>>737699906what a dumb fucking controversy in hindsight, a bunch of faggot redditors upset that a company didn't want to lose chink money by platforming a retard who couldn't just keep his mouth shut and take his prize money and go home
>>737699943Truke. I realize power creep is inevitable, but it's just too much.
>>737699571personally fond of it as it was the one time i was able to grind out a legendary rank
>>737693498nobody cares about monk and what could they add?serpent ox and tiger stances? sounds like DKlots of bouncing and replay cards or combos? sounds like roguefocus on doing damage with your hero ala martial arts? sounds like DH
>>737691809first game was also good thoughbeit
>>737700085brew effects that let you mix drinks maybe? each class always has a few focuses/gimmicks and sometimes they are shared anyways
>>737690838>there's usually no coming back from wiping their board and playing a 12/12)Deathwing classico hasn't been playable outside of arena since vanilla lil bro
>>737690395That's very cool bateman, but that's nothing.. look at this
>>737699072>>737691239the meta where every single non-face hunter match was decided by who Theotar'd the other player's Theotar or Denathrius first cured me of my addiction permanently Shadowlands was such a dogshit expansion that it even killed Hearthstone too
>>737690395OGER GOOD STATS FOR COST!!!!!!!!!!
>>737700196Classic Deathwing wiped out your whole hand as well. Also worth noting is that after, your Hero Power is “gain 5 attack this turn” and there’s a Legendary that can discount this Deathwing’s cost by a lot.
>>737700282>Carries your ass in ArenaI miss those times.
I kinda miss early days hearthstone streaming, it was a quaint little period. All those esports memes and shitty gachimuchi remixes.
>this is what new cards look likegames a joke
>>737690327Dropping it just before Corona was apparently the sweet spot.Blizzard and its franchises can't be saved anymore. It's ogre.I have been on Pokémon TCG Pocket for a while now and it's actually fun.
>>737699943now it would be 3 mana, be a beast, and generate a random card
My favorite deckbuilder game has fewer than 50 reviews on steam.
>>737690327are there more cute vulpera cards
>>737690707that's a card from the beta
>>737690395those stats... for that cost... IMPOSSIBLE
>>737699735Historically going first has been noticeably better. It kind of just is in every card game.
>>737690395what does it do?aren't those cards supposed to have some text in the middle?
>>737701449maybe
>>737699735some decks want to go second but I think generally going first is slightly better especially for aggro
>>737700083I get this meme.It's brilliant.
>>737701810>femalemeh
>>737700472I played nothing but Arena back then. Going infinite was such a good feeling.I didn't touch arena for at least 5 years now.
>The gates are open
>>737700282
>>737701685The One Piece TCG going 2nd is really strong because you get an extra mana.
>>737701954honestly insane how overcosted taunt used to benow it's basically a free keyword
>>737701954>lord of the arena>isn't actually too bad in arena
>>737701895faggot
>>737700282>>737700353loved that nigga
>>737701797its from the release version, it's a common card that was just4 mana4 5no effects
Probably my favorite card of all time
>>737702136can't imagine anyone who actually had to play this piece of shit saying this
>>737691875I've read this 10 times and I still can't find what changed here.
>>7377023081 space vs 1 minionlocations are a thing nowadays
>>737702136Nah
>>737700180meh rogue already got the concoctions gimmick
>>737702357cool card but it usually takes control of some crap token minion.
I tried to get back into HS like a year ago. Game sucks more than ever. Everything is a combo deck that shits out a full board or generates a million hp/armor out of nowhere.
>>737702357I hated this more than anything
>>737702357Wasn't he 3 mana only?
Battlegrounds are way better than standard shartstone.
>>737694215good
>>737702558they changed him costs 5 but you get to pick which minion you take no sovl...
>>737690327So let me get this straight.In the past you could have spent real money on card packs and then when a new update comes you aren't able to use those cards again?Who plays this shit?
>>737702558He was originally 3 mana but a random minion. They made him targeted but increased the cost to 5.
>>737701086are you going to tell us what it is
>>737691259the good old timeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJs5_s0Fsbs
>>737702178NTA but I liked it because gambling on 8 damage to random target was fun
>>737691259>You face Jar-ACK
>>737702034yes
I used to play heartstone and hit legend every season until Dr.6 was introduced and almost every single match was against faggot paladins using it. Everybody was sick and tired of it, it was obviously broken, but the devs just refused to nerf it because it was an epic card, and there was no way they would give away the "free" dust of an epic card to the pleb players. Oh no. They instead let the game rot for months without nerfing it and in the next expansion they printed a card to directly counter Dr.6.That was it for me desu, that's when I realized that their priority is extracting as much money for the retards who still play the game instead of trying to make a fun game.I finally noticed that I was never truly happy playing the game either. I was always salty when the opponent highrolled one of the le epic random card effects, when I won I was also pissed and called the other player a bitch, everything felt like a struggle, it felt like the matchmaking was rigged to counter your deck.It was a chore. You can't even make your own decks because you're a fool for doing so, just copy and paste a meta deck and be a mindless sheep like everyone else. It was never fun, reaching legend was never worth it and I regret wasting so much time on this garbage.They even refused to do an auto-squelch feature just to avaoid reducing the "value" of paid hero skins. Fuck those greedy shits.If you still play this piece of shit, I pry for your soul.
>>737703178based
>>737702813Wild
>>737690395Uncs really thought this was good. We now play 6/8s on turn 3
>>737702357hated having to play around this absolute nigger card every single arena game
>Multibillion Dollar Companyhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=vlOQbOmiM-0
>>737703089I don't know how many years ago but they removed this interaction. No fun allowed.
most cancer cards that I remember:>Undertaker>DR Boom>Mysterious Challenger>Jade Druid
>>737703213It was always such a cohencidence that they would only ever nerf commons and rares at best.
You may not agree but Patreon Warrior was fun.
>>737703313turn 4
>>737701797It was just a card that had good stats (on release) for the mana curve. If it went down on curve it would usually trade for 2 enemy cards. But most cards on release were absolute garbage.
>>737703823For me, it was old handlock with the ancient watchers
people still play this rigged game? Holy fuck, you have to be actual human trash to get enjoyment from this scam
>>737703313what the actual fuck
>>737704139I'm a blizzdrone. I also play Heroes of the storm
>>737704358hope you get better, bro
>>737703297Wasn't a thing back then.
>>737704486Don't think so. Already peordered the D4 expansion.
>>737690327sorry I only play games with cute girls
>>737704358>I also play Heroes of the stormthat game is based thoughI would play it too if it didn't give me carpal tunnel
>>737695841For a few weeks near SV1's launch?Card games degenerate so absurdly fast.
>>737704358HotS was their last fun game.Not even joking.
got pioneer in gwent, but after 1.0, never got an incentive to play it ever again. not even thronebreaker looked appealing
>literally the same shit as Galakrond>all the boomers are completely confused and need spoonfeeding on how he works>whut is a herald??? whut you mean improve ????????Is every “old player” retarded, or did they stop playing the game before naxxramas?We did literally the same song and dance with Elise last year, everyone on /v/ was confused, when she’s just a Kazakusan for locations
>>737704717>shadoba in the big 26just let it go man
>take a long break from hearthstone after the first ungoro set>come back during starship starcraft bullshit>get legend instantly abusing blood dk>next set is ungoro again and somehow even more boring>uninstall
>>737701512it's playable in wild
>>737690327The game is unrecoverableThe fun of any tactical game is dealing with new information, and adapting previous plans to new conditions, Interactive gameplay where you both can plan for the future and don't know what to expectModern hearthstone powercreep is the exact opposite of this. You know exactly the bullshit that is going to occur and you can't do shit about it, just pray you draw a hard counterThe game is vacous and emptyAdditionally, the community is a cancer for games like this, purposefully sucking all of the fun out of deck building by handing out "Meta" listsThere is a possible good tcg, we just haven't seen it yet. It needs more control, more choices
>>737703583They changed Jaraxxus to a Hero Card, which means that now Jaraxxus is a “Hero” instead of a “demon that takes control of your Hero.”
>>737705052I wish worlds beyond had bampi...
When did you guys stop playing?It was Old Gods for me.It was cool how they gave Cthun to everyone iirc.Luv me a Timmy set.
>>737701954This card nowadays would be good at maybe 3 mana
>>737705609Stopped playing in Rise of Shadows after I lost 17 matches in a row one day and nearly had an aneurysm.
>>737705609I don't know. I just never cared enough about Hearthstone to even remember which expansion was my last
>>737704717see >>737701810
>>737705609I haven't given a shit about constructed since Barrens but I still really like BGs
>>737705052how is shadowverse doing today?
>>737690395man, the first couple years of hearthstone was so good
Five years ago HS was very obviously floundering and it seemed obvious to me that MtG Arena, Runeterra, and Master Duel would come in and eat its lunch. Funnily enough now it seems way more appealing than its peers.
>>737705609When they did the odd/even mana cost thing. All the classes I played became turbo braindead.
>>737706005
>>737706270
>>737705609when ben brode left, it was going downhill ever since they introduced standard, but ben brode leaving was the final nail in the coffin
First few seasons were good, but the p2w and power creep now is just too much.RIP
>>737706270>>737706284that's because they're focusing on the sequel that released last year
>>737706339which everyone hates
>>737705609Started playing less around the Boomsday Project, stopped playing completely at the release of Saviours of Uldum. Just lost interest since I had been playing since open beta. Picked the game up again shortly before the release of United in Stormwind and then quit permanently because of the AIDS that was quest warlock completely killing all control decks. Also because of the nonbinary magefag character.
>>737706270>>737706339i would be too scared to pull something like this over my customers without an end of service plan, this is how you get killed
>>737706380>>737706525I don't see many people giving a fuck about it shutting down at its 10 year anniversary.
>>737705010I just netdeck bro.I stopped thinking entirely.
>>737705609Started the day they made open beta and dropped it on witchwood or so. It was impossible to keep up without paying.
>>737706949>It was impossible to keep up without paying.you would like the game now, they've pivoted fully to monetizing cosmetics and the money they make from packs seems to be entirely an afterthought
>>737693350You can only do that on a mirror, and only on the lips.
>>737703313and the game and every matchup is now unplayable dogshit, what a coincidence
>>737705609MY JAWS THAT BITE, MY CLAWS THAT CATCH>cue 15mins of animations
>>737690395i miss old HS
>>737705609>When did you guys stop playing?Implying
>>737690395i miss the old hearthstone so much brosabsolute LVDOKINOnaxx was great but it all went to shit after
>>737705010i actually quit hearthstone twice, once during gvg and the other during the galakrond/ elysiana/ dr boom shit. my life would be infinitely better if i didn't know what galakrond did
>>737690327Oh? They finally released more Mercenaries content?
>>737706918truegreen color = playsimple as
>>737705407>Additionally, the community is a cancer for games like this, purposefully sucking all of the fun out of deck building by handing out "Meta" listsI'm not building my own deck just to get beaten by 10 different cancer meta decks.
>>737703089>when AI played this card right after Jaraxus This will always be funniest moment in game
>>737703089WAIT THIS WORKED?!
>>737708364it used to work, it was sovl but it's understandable why they stopped it from working
>>737703873coin
>>737706145I don't even want to play commander since I know I'll sit across from shit like this while using just regular MTG cards.
>>737703313Let me guess this isn't even good
>>737705079It's genuinely amazing how they managed to bring back quests, make 90% of them unplayable, then nerfed the one or two that actually saw play into the ground. The devs even admitted they made them bad on purpose because quests limited design space if they were good, like niggas you made the fucking set.
>>737709421It is. You can't target it with spells or hero powers.
>>737709421that thing is really strong mostly because the elusive
>>737709421It's good but this is the real busted dragon card currently
>>737703313>>737709615Don't mind me. Just multiplying these cards ;)
>>737709421actually it's so good that it got nerfed and people still play it anyways AND it's part of one of the best decks right now, used to be a 6/9
>>737710040>used to be a 6/9people creating cards like this are making $100k+ btw
>>737705010Please understand most "old players" were only around for the first couple of years.More than Nax, but I don't know who the FUCK Galakrond is.
>>737705609around un'goro I decided it's become too complicated for the casual play I enjoyed
>not a hardcore HS player, but tried it from time to time mainly for arena>decided to come back during the arena revamp>got bored, so I decided to try ranked standard >made a fun DK deck >refined it>hit legend for the first time with my own deck>clueless about how next expansion/season actually work, I was excited for the new cards to mix with my deck>new season drops>most of the cards that made my deck fun and unique are now unavailable>every new card fucking sucks>retarded, boring, uninteresting and predictable deathwing herald mechanics, ruining every potential for fun and unique decksThis game fucking sucks. Coin flip simulator of retards mirroring the same decks. HS players are unironically below leaguefags.
>>737710982>win>"this game is so fun! :D">lose>"this game SUCKS!"
>>737711134>>win/lose with my own fun deck>>"this game is so fun! :D">>lose/win with the meta decks>>"this game SUCKS!"Fixed that for you.
>>737690327>hearthstone is finally good againdid they brought back Miracle Rogue?
>I miss playing Hearthstone>I don't miss burning money to play catchup with meta>I don't miss trying to do my own thing and getting owned by meta decks>I don't miss the moment I got SO stressed and worked up getting close to Legend rank for the first time ever, that I started clenching and grinding my teeth in my sleep; ultimatly why I quit HSGod how much bullshit happened after the Titans expansion anyway?
>>737690327I'm playing Wild with Whizbang and it's great. I'm saving for Zayle too, and once i have those I'll never care about dust ever again
>>737690327I don't think i will.
Classic Andys are so annoying. No shit 10 years later people want to have cards with effects and not just bland stat bombs.
>>737712494Not defending the le wholesome direction Hearthstone's artstyle has taken but most of the classic cards were just reused WoW TCG art
i just play HS battlegrounds, it's the perfect game to play while shitposting on /v/
>>737712078>did they brought back Miracle Rogue?There is a variant of Rogue in Wild that reduces the cost of all cards in the deck to 0 then proceeds to play all of them in a single turn for lethal face damage.Doesn't play a single minion I think
>>737700912i'm pretty sure this card exists
>>737690327I tried picking it up recently with a brand new account and 99% of the content from old expansions was just fucking GONE. Adventures, mini games, etc. I tried with my old account and everything was still there. Its kind of insane for Blizzard to hide so much of their game from new players.
>>737691410I remember around the time of Legion they wanted to blend WoW and SC into the same universe, just on different planets. But I guess they gave up on that.
>>737690327FUCKING LIAR THE GAME IS FUCKING GARBAGE POST ROTATION
happy i switch to TFTgame is free, and if its a shit set like the current one im free to take a few month break without any FOMO and come back for the next one
I dropped it last week. The developers are so incompetent. I will probably come back to play the new Monk class.
>>737713364no hyper roll no play
>>737709014Thankfully MTGA has a "Jump In" mode so you can just play beginner prefab decks for free. Or draft, so you're not playing against some $500 netdeck.
>>737713364Fuck this new set is so fucking aids. The only semi-cool thing is mechs. I miss last set tribes so bad.
>>737712962>I tried picking it up recently with a brand new account and 99% of the content from old expansions was just fucking GONE. Adventures, mini games, etc.They're not gone, just hidden until you complete all the introductory quests
>>737713170right after rotation is the only time the game is ever good, the level of bullshit increases throughout the year
have they made a new dungeon run yet
>>737712243I was serious about the question; what HAVE I missed since Titans?
>>737715224then it is all downhill from here
>>737691239>>737699072nothing personel, kid
>>737700752absolute peak of hearthstone, peak of twitch before irl and thots took over for a long while.
>>737690617>>737690395>>737706009>>737707308>>737699943>>737700079Yeti was literally never viable outside of highroll ramp deckIt was only good if you played druid and coin innervate it T1. Otherwise it was a bad card.That meant Yeti wasn't good, Innverate/Wild Growth were just absolutely bonkers and Force of Nature + Savage Roar was a ridiculous combo
>>737691053>that gay ass artholy shit the absolute state of nu-Bilzzard
>>737690838>>737700370You say that as if Deathwing, Worldbreaker is actually good.It isnt, the herald decks are not meta at all.>Deal 4 damage to board is niice>as is being able to destroy highest health enemy minion>Summoning a big statted dragon doesnt mean much because it isnt hard to destroy a textless minion, even a 12/12, on t6+ for 90% of class situations>But this is on a 10 mana card that eats up your entire turn, or only leaves you with 2-4 mana with setup>And the hero power is not that effective. Its basically a better druid/dh hero power, but that wont win you the game on its own because you cant realistically just hit the button and hit the enemies face for 6 turns undisturbedMeh card that has let a lot of people down
Current online collectible cardgame landscape is depressingHearthstone just doesn't know how to be good anymore.Shadowverse 2 is a cynical piece of shit designed by retards that only care about pushing out boilerplate "archetypes" as a platform to sell overpriced cosmetics to even bigger retardsmtg and yugioh haven't been good in a decade.I miss runeterra man.
>>737699072I used to love a deck with this guy (not ranked obviously), it was just a deck filled to the brim with cheap cost stuff that would die throughout the game seemingly for no point, then after 30 minutes play denathrius and deal like 60 damage
>>737705609I stopped after Boomsday. It was not a conscious decision, realistically I had soft quit since Journey to Ungoro but held on for a few more sets.
>>737701954I always viewed him as a centaur for some reason.A generic fantasy one too, not the WoW in-universe Mongolian centaurs.
Reminder that there are people who specialize in game design that actually looked at this and thought this was fine to send out.
>>737712962for some of the adventures like witchwood you have to go into the store and look them up, it's a pain
>>737720524It was so fucking funny for the first few times.>MY JAWS THAT BITE, MY CLAWS THAT CATCH
>>737720524(ONCE PER GAME)
Rate my design.Self bias, but I think the flavor and design is perfect and would easily fit into the Warlock's core set.
>>737721262The art is fine, but the effect is trash.Why would you play a card like this when you could play a card that does something when it gets discarded?
>>737721262>>737721357This could work as effect of actual deck card what would generate sacrifice cards
>>737721357Cards that do something when they get discarded still need to overcome the hurdle of being lucky first, so they get to be the one that gets randomly discarded.Willing Sacrifice offers a one-time guarantee. A chance to play a card with a discard effect without needing to worry about the bullshit it sometimes brings, even if you're playing a deck built around discarding.Also note that it only says 'random discard effects' so it's intended to work on the more familiar discard triggers (Soulfire and Doomguard), rather than the more unique ways that cards bring to discard other cards.If the card is too weak, stats could be tweaked to it being a 2 2/3 or a 3 3/4.It's also a fun card to design other cards around. Like a card that generates these Willing SacrificesOne other idea I have is a legendary minion called "Mancatcher" where it takes an enemy minion from the board into the hand, and gives it the discard priority. Use Mancatcher to steal and play a valuable minion, or steal a weaker minion to sacrifice.
>>737719087>when I dirty rat the diapered up controlcel's KJ
>>737721998Yeah Willing Sacrifice itself isn't a good card nor one that'd want to ever be put into a deck. Changing it's stats are 100% worthless though anon. You specitically never want to play it, which is what makes it a bad card, so unless it's a 1 mana 5/6 no one cares about the stats.As is at it's best it's okay in the niche niche circumstance where you generate it within a discard warlock deck.Your second idea is better and that Blizzard recently played around with with the weird Rogue legendary that steals two cards then goes dormant.
>>737690327>Exclamation mark for no reasonI know this might be a very autistic reason to be mad but this legit pisses me the fuck off
>>737721998>Cards that do something when they get discarded still need to overcome the hurdle of being lucky first, so they get to be the one that gets randomly discarded.Yes, but this is Cardstone. If you don't get lucky then you lose anyway, so better to bank on the semi-regular highroll.Now a good card would be a 1 mana 2/2 with the effect of "whenever you discard a card, discover a card from your hand to discard".
>>737712561>calling someone online an ‘Andy’Kill yourself, twitch watching eceleb worshipping faggot.
>>737723079how did you know where the term came from hmm?
>>737723140Because the stupid niggers that I played video games with 5ish years ago said iy all the time, you are an insufferable faggot if you say that kind of shit. It’s like saying “pogchamp” IRL, the bald guy is a faggot in every way imaginable and has spawned the worst fanbase ever seen on the modern internet
>>737721262too sloweven 5 years ago
I hate how this fucking game makes me constantly waffle between>holy shit, we are SO backand>I am using all my willpower to not go on twitter and tell the devs to climb their chromosomes and jump down to their IQI love that I hate that I love this game
If you play Dragon Warrior, I'm here to tell you to go fuck yourself.
I play Battlegrounds mainly and anyone who tells me trinkets are better than the timewarp is simply wrong, we need to go back to last year's meta.
>>737723997>and tell the devJust tell Cora
>>737724076I will play whatever gives me diamond 5 the fastest.Then I'll start playing "fun" decks
>>737700793>this was the start of AI
>>737724303See even in jest, you acknowledge that DW is fun neither to use nor fight, it is merely a means to an end. It doesn't even have "fucking with the opponent's patience" potential like leech decks do, every match is the same.
>>737724792>See even in jestI didn't jest. I was completely honest.
>>737707665Haha, I wish. No they haven't touched that for over 3 years because no one except me would ever buy decks, and even I stopped after I got all the mercs because why bother?
>>737717245Mini-set gave us Titan Yogg that was utterly broken because it became almost a 2 mana mind control of other peoples titans. Got nerfed many times.Then there was Showdown in the Badlands that had an interesting gimmick with mining, but >>737691053 they released this fucker that was broken and any deck could run him.Then 2024 gave Whizbang's which was the 10th Anniversary set and some annoying stables (Custom Zilliax to build a custom minion to fit a deck, Headless Horseman that DK crutched hard on, and a few other spotlights) but was generally decent. Perils in Paradise barely did jackshit as far as I call beyond a few good staples and The Great Dark Beyond was fucking garbage with spaceships......Until the Starcraft Miniset basically made 2025 the most unfun year to play as there was always a Starcraft deck in the meta that was a pain to play against in both Standard and Wild. Zerg got nerfed near instantly, Terran got hit a bit later and then Protoss was left untouched and basically Mage and Priest could only use those. Emerald Dream and Un'Goro basically trash because people were just playing 2024 cards and Starcraft until Across the Timeways... Which still sucked but they got cheap with 'Fabled' cards.Also, they brought in 'Pets' with Un'goro which is done via RNG lootbox that basically costs $120 bucks to get everything in the 'Darkmoon Faire' since the big ticket item is 1/10000. 4chan is IP blocking me from posting pictures sadly, so I can't screenshare until I pay the Hiroshimoot
With the free pull I grabbed, meaning 0% chance of getting the Golden pack (Which is set to 50% originally.If I would spend $3, I would have...42% chance for a Signiture Art common card15% chance for a coin reskin13% chance for a Signiture Art rare card10% chance for Baby Wrathion Warrior skin9% chance for the Signiture Art Epic card4% chance for the Tarecgosa skin and card back3% chance for a Signiture Art Shaman Legendary no one runs2% chance for a Diamond card everyone uses0.1% chance for the Deathwing Cosmetic Pet.Price for each pull is1 - Free2 - $33 - $54 - $85 - $136 - $177 - $238 - $329 - $3810 - $63Basically it's a scam that pretends to be a game of chance for cards I cannot physically own. It's fucking retarded bullshit that whales propogate. I see the whales on Youtube excuse getting it because they are content creators and write that shit off. I fucking hate these people ruining video games
>>737690395>>737690842kek... gg noobs
>>737726568FOR MANA SEVEN SEVEN?!
>>737726457
>>737690327Oh, Adventures are back? No? Then why do you do this? just go on the internet and lie.
This is worth $200 of your life right? What like? 20 hours of minimum wage? 1/5th your rent?Surely you won't feel like an empty and hollow husk as you give the bloated leech wearing the stretched skinned face of a beloved franchise you may have adored, right?Welcome to gaming in 2026, /v/ has every right to be mad.
>>737725954>and then Protoss was left untouched and basically Mage and Priest could only use those.Yeah but on the other hand I loved my Priest Protoss deck
>>737726781>tfw got morchokwhat a dogshit card
>>737726781I never bought a single microtransaction or cosmetic
>>737727309Doesn't matter, that is Microsofts demand for them to push.Duels died because can't monetize. Twist died because despite asking for ideas and getting so many. It's all about spend hours upon hours for less content then a Digimon V-pet for 10x the price.And I unfortunitely meet about 10 of these pets whenever I climb Gold
>>737705609I checked out just before Un'goro. I didn't like where the game was going with Gadgetzan, it was getting too sweaty and stressful to even play it casually. Wouldn't you know it, the game just kept on getting worse after there.It was fun while it lasted.
>>737705609Played from Beta to Boomsday Project then came back to Madness at the Darkmoon Faire then stopped playing again a little after the Festival of Legends.Then Blizzard gave me a free mega bundle for Into the Emerald Dream, played for like a month and gave up again.The game isn't awful, but I hate getting roped almost every damn game. I would only come back to this game if Blizzard implemented a hard disconnect for a roped turn with no actions.
>>737726781No it's not worth 200$ to me but i don't have to pay it and the people who do subsidizes the game for me. It's why we have a better F2P game then ever before, go right ahead and jump all over this, because of the sale of useless cosmetics that actively takes advantage of people with poor impulse control.
>>737729527>Game quality is shit now due to focus on cosmetics>Basic things we got are now gone due to the focus of sale on CosmeticsGood going idiot
post lines that will live rent-free in your head forever>My eyes are open.
>>737719701Which is why I quit (((Hearthstone))) after the Shudderwock era because I hate aggro and I hate cheap removal and that is 100% of every single match. There is no room for big mini9ojns that cost 8+ mana without text being effective enough to win the game and so I absolutely refuse to play. Fuck hunter btw, faggot class.
>>737730010>TROGG NO STU-PID!
>>737730010>My dreaming ends...>PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH >Your nightmare... begins.>PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH PSSH
>>737730010>REALITY BREAKS
>>737730010NIGGA YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME
>>737726781This is actually worse than it looks, the UI is made to imply each prize is equally likely when it's actually weighted so 90% of the time you won't get the best prize until you get literally every other prize, and the prize goes up drastically for the last few rolls. It's basically an overpriced bundle disguised as gambling.
>turn 14>17 spells cast>bow down before the god of death>pyroblasts self>well played
>>737731437*the price goes up drastically
>>737690327I'll come back if they ever do a Hearthstone 2. Something with bigger scope, and not just a glorified mobilegame.
>>737728372literally just play casual mode there is an entire queue built specifically for this and I play it all the time people bring piles of bullshit or gimmick decks, and you can just auto-concede against the few niggers than bring ladder decks and lose nothing especially casual wild. casual wild is always just bullshit memey decks
>>737730010EMBRACE THE GIFT OF DEATH AS I HAVE is burned forever into my brain because the mechanics of how it works means you can keep fucking playing the card.
>>737730010>MIND IF I ROLL WEED
>>737730417It's funny how much this lines up exactly the same with early YGO players>ugh, I remember when you just played a big monster and won, why is the game so filled with counterplay and monsters with effects now. It's like they actually made a fucking card game or something...
>>737730010E V E R Y O N EVERYONE
>>737730417>and I hate cheap removalMan you would fucking hate Blue in MTG, because that's Blue's entire gameplan, winning by not letting you play.
>>737690327By the time I've made a deck all the cards will be rotated out
>>737732443They let you use a rental deck setup for the first chunk of an expansion so you can use the cards without getting packs to see if you even like playing that strategy
>>737731691I'm tempted find an online client for the old TCG or found it myself. I mean, You can just make card art with AI now and if you know the better ones; you can bring back the titty art cards.
>>737730010>Mind if I roll 'need'...?Oh man, there's so many... I used to adore the game. And I still kinda wish I had never stopped playing it. But the FOMO just killed me at some point.>>737733432>found it myselfI think you'd be better off creating a brand new game from scratch. Blizzard games were great in the past, but people need to let go.
>>737721262Let's imagine I put this in my deck, and the effect triggers while I have 3 other cardsI then have 3 good cards and have gotten rid of one useless oneInstead of doing this, I could have simply put another good card in my deck, and I would still have 3 good cards left1 star strength, can't survive without synergy2 star design. Nice flavor but mechanically uninteresting. Perhaps if it did so while on the board, and could do so multiple times, then your opponent would have some interaction with it 2/2/2, whenever you would discard this takes one damage instead
>>737734028I mean, I never got to try the TCG back in the day since I was broke and didn't play and did Yugioh instead with my friend where I blew all my luck being an Arcana Force player.
>>737691053just to explain why this card is so fucking retarded for people who don't understandthis card would remove the opponents entire board, not destroy them so deathrattles were not triggered, they just got poofed out of existanceTHEN it would limit the opponent to only have 1 slot on the board for their next turnAND it gave an upgraded hero power and healed youit basically meant wipe your opponents board and they can't play next turnfor fucking 8 manaabsurd card
>>737734452The most interesting effects can be the most Bullshit
>>737734452And card draw was so insane at the time that decks would run it even if it they had duplicates in it because it was that powerful and likely that you'd outdraw any of your x2 copies.
>>737736060"Bullshit cards" was the whole appeal of the game, IMHO. Stuff that would be pretty much impossible in a traditional, actual cardgame.That's why I never understood how people opposed even the first expansion, that added mechs and randomness, etc.
>>737731482I'm still salty about that retarded nerf. Makes no sense, just made him unplayable, unless you have room for a Hail Mary in your deck.They should have made him be specifically useful for spell-heavy decks. Make him cast a random spell for every 2, or heck, every 3 spells you've cast this game.Yogg was one of the few periods in Hearthstone where I've had genuine fun playing the game. You got to play lots of different decks, AND still have a chance to win, even if your deck was too weak competitively.
>>737705609after this update, around 2017 or so. no real fundimental reason. game was just getting boring/stale/powercreepy
can i still play face hunter / zoo lock or is it completely killed/dead?
>>737690327It was NEVER good.
>>737729081wtf is even happening in that webm.no wonder i quit this dog shit for mtg commander irl
>>737731482this was a mega OP card done right.it was fun.
>>737705609Descent of Dragons, the new cards were all hyper efficient "if you are holding a dragon" bullshit which was basically impossible not to trigger and arena had become so shit over the last few sets that I had run out of gold trying to go infinite.
>>737737025It's a tavern brawl event where cards cost life instead of mana. The player heals himself up, draws a bunch of cards, plays Majordomo, gifts Majordomo to his opponent, kills Majordomo which turns his opponent into Ragnaros, who has 8 life, and then kills Ragnaros with an 8 damage battlecry.There's strategies in Magic which do the exact same thing.
>>737737025>wtf is even happening in that webm.It's a Tavern Brawl, a weekly silly game mode, and that week seems to have it so all your cards cost health instead of mana. Druid player plays a bunch of cards that draw cards and heal himself, with the ultimate plan being to summon a minion, Majordomo Executus. When Majordomo is killed, your hero is replaced with a different hero with a measly 8 health. So you summon Majordomo, give it to your opponent so the on death effect triggers for the enemy instead of you, kill Majordomo, then use just a bit of burst to kill the opponent. ez
>>737712243I know this is a 9 hour post, but it’s still worth sayingHearthstone has become A LOT less pay 2 win than it used to be 10 years ago. They give you a lot more gold and packs than back in the dayNew and returning players get “catchup packs” for free which contain an assload of cards (like 50-100 I think), and they give out meta decks for free to f2p now (not just recipes). You can even see it in youtube challenges, old f2p legend climbs were basically commons only decks, modern f2p legend challenge videos play 5 different meta decksAlso right now they have an event that you can use every card from 2025 for free (and in gold) for the entirety of 2026. + they now have duplicate protection and guaranteed legendaries after X rolls, but that’s because of regulations, so they dont get a point for that. It’s not like 2018 when unpacking two Bolf Ramshield bankrupted your family, or only paypigs had the good cardsThey compensate by making cosmetics extremely expensive, they now have 80 dollar skins and 150 dollar pets, which is fucking insane, but if you just want to play the game like me you dont have to buy anything, you can just do your weeklies
>mfw Badlands, Whizzbang and Starcraft
>>737690327This is the list
>>737730417They actually took out a bunch of removal like brawl from standard recently.
>>737738827>Witchwood S
>>737738827>put all the big powerlevel expacs to D>put Badlands in AHuh?
>>737738827It's so weird to remember that this game kept going. Jesus christ dude. t. stopped in 2016
>>737736285it wouldn't really be hard for mtg add something like reno though, they have more trouble with effects that create cards
I cant believe they killed Twist!He only had two weeks until the (end of) retirement!
>>737736285Agreed. I think the greatest advantage hearthstone has is that you always have a “judge” at your table, so they can have extremely complicated game states without arguing over rulesPatron Warrior is a great example, imagine trying to keep track of the damage on each token with magic gems and d6s, after every single action
>>737739052Witchwood was really good though, incredible amount of viable decks and every single archetype was present, game also changed a lot after the balance, odd and even was also interesting although very powerful.>>737739076Showdowns meta was really really good... until the miniset where they added Brann and made some of the awful decks to play against more powerful. Looking at it now I should probably put it before mean streets but the beginning meta before any of the patches was actually really nice.
>>737739462Yeah you are right, badlands was really f-LOOKING FOR A STANDOFF LOOKING FOR A STANDOFF LOOKING FOR A STANDOFF
>>737739462I think people hate witchwood retroactively because Genn and Baku were in standard forever and people got sick of them. They also watched some Shudderwock youtube combos which made them believe he was more oppressive than he really was
>>737738827>quit in 2017>recognise every single S-tierThanks for the validation.
>>737739552I mean that whole year was a mess because of how off the balancing was, and their 'balance' patches more often than not broke more than they fixed. Sundown just had a really good meta for itself in the beginning and I really liked playing both reno decks and excavate decks.>>737739661It's not a surprise. It's very difficult to continuously keep a game fun and balance. It's honestly surprising hs lasted being so fun for so long. But all the original devs are gone and what replaced them was eh....
>>737738534>you can use every card from 2025 for free (and in gold) for the entirety of 2026You can't use cards from a different season?
This game was good while ONE CARD remained unnerfed and playable. For a brief span of time, this was the most fun you could have in any card game known to man. Then, those cunts at Blizzard ripped it away.Never again will I trust. Never again will I believe. Never again will I suffer them to live.
>>737742142>For a brief span of time, this was the most fun you could have in any card game known to man.>he never owned any physical cards never played yugioh Kill yourself spastic blizzdrone loser, and stream it please. How can one man be such a low life whore for a digital company LOL. You worthless nigger
>>737690327i stopped carrying when they started to censor old card art while every new card art was just ugly girlbosses or negros but zero cool and heroic white male characters
>>737742250unc melty alert
can't imagine playing this disgusting skinner box in big 20 26 my fellaswhat's the point? the novelty and the tide of content creation that came with the release of hearthstone ended 10 years ago
>>737738534Anon here, thanks for replying to my old post. I was sure they added more "randomly randoms a randoms" and other bs mechanics on top of all the other, probably dead, mechanics, like what >>737725954 said.Cheers
Ladder is currently infested with Warriors just winning by dumping overstatted Dragons made dirt cheap just by having their decks filled with overstatted dragonsDon't know how Blizz thinks this is some kind of real cost
>>737736285because eventually meta slaves and sweats come in and demand competitive stuff.
does arena have ALL the cards?how the fuck you are suppose to play it now after 30+ expansions
>>737719539>Yeti was literally never viable outside of [deck it was viable in]Holy fucking shit we have a GENIUS over here.
>>737745184I think they rotate expansions for arena now
>>737738827>witchwood S>rastakhan anywhere but D tier>frozen throne, the expansion that ruined shartstone for ages with their retarded fucking death knigts, A tiernigga
>>737744374it's not a real cost, it's blizzard printing intentionally overstatted bullshit because they arbitraily decided warrior plays dragons this expansion
herald warlock is bad but i'm having fun
>>737731437yeah, that's straight out of every chinese mobile game with the same scam setup
>>737749261In China they actually have to show the odds though, which is how we know how bad it is
xally card when
>>737749576Four years ago
>>737749651no!it'll be a card+summonfeet summon
