Xenogears is one of my favorite games but I never fucked with Xenosaga. Is it worth playing?
>>737695674No
Whenever any game is known simply for the porn of its main character: No, it's not.
>>737695674I started playing the first one 2 weeks ago. So far it's been 85% cutscenes.
>>737695790Damn.
>>737695674Yes>>737695748Internet being stupid isn't the game's fault
>>737695674At one point later on you'll hear Albedo's laugh and it'll be worth it, but until then there's a loooot of cutscenes to sit though, the "save your game in between cutscenes" kind
Protect Momo's smile.
Yes it is. I don't know how soulless you have to be to not love the fuck out of this series. 2 looks weird because they didn't know how to do graphics or cinematics yet, but 3 is the best the Xeno series as a whole has ever, ever looked.1 is a pretty clearly unfinished game, but it does the heavy lifting of getting you reinvested in the Xeno world.2 is a great story, gameplay is a bit better than 1, music is much better.3 however is so good I recommend it even to people who haven't played the first two. You will be missing out on a lot of kino, but it includes a very detailed in-game wiki and glossary. I cannot stress enough how fucking cool everything in 3 is. If you like these three games, the four Xenoblade games and their DLCs are also worth a look. The first two numbered games are quite different, but if you play Xenosaga you'll shear and feel a lot of echoes of older games until you get to X Definitive and Future Redeemed and see how much of this series carries forward, including Xenogears.The overarching Xeno series is one of the most rewarding series in gaming because of the series through lines and the way you can see Takahashi's vision getting clearer with every iteration.Give it a go, man.
>>737695674Xenosaga I and II are pretty bad. The cutscenes are good.Still worth enduring for Episode III.
>>737695674It's my all time favorite game. The story of it's sequels is a sad one but at least the first one is excellent. They do an amazing job with the directing of the action scenes. The gameplay is probably too simple for the ADHD current generations but the animations are beautiful. The characters and story are all well thought out
>it gets better after 2 games and 100s of hours of cutscenes, bro!i have time investment fatigue
>>737695674Meh 7/10 at the time.
>>737699680>gameplay is a bit better than 1????????????????????????????
>>737695674If you like far future space travel sci-fi yes.
>>737695674Is Allen the biggest cuck in videogame history?
>>737700009NTA, but it really is.Gameplay in 1 is mind-numbingly boring. Random battles were never ever good.
>>737700141>This is who is informing you Sounds like you didn't play it. It doesn't have random battles.
>>737700124>loser nerd>does nothing but whine for 2.5 games>gets the girl in the end>girl actually chooses him over immortal chad>gets to go on an epic quest to rescue a sexy robot to have threesomes withu wot m8, Allen won so hard he broke the spacetime continuum
>>737695674Unless you're invested in its story, you'll find it quite boring quite quickly. I'm sure "modern" games with RPG ATB-style fighting have already set the expectations that Xenoblade won't be able to meet.It's got a loli in it, though. They censored her in the West and future releases, she's that sexualized.
>>737695790isn't there a Xenosaga anime? Couldn't you just watch that instead? I recall the game is rather basic, standard JRPG, doesn't do anything remarkable gameplay wise, so if the main reason is the lore, just watch the anime.
>>737700453Krk, you are right. Still, rough 2.5 games.
>>737700916The vast majority of anime are mere glorified advertisements for their source material. There will be a few moments here and there that surpass the original (generally what is known as "sakuga") but for the most part you are getting a worse package that is missing tons of important details. Many times the story is only adapted to the halfway point, if that.
>>737695674The first one was one of the worst games I've ever played, and I loved Xenogears so much I bought a fan made english translation of the Perfect Works book. I couldn't even finish Xenosaga 1 it was that bad.
>>737701317Why
>>737701373Boring charactersBoring storyMindnumbingly boring combatUgly graphics
>>737701580What a shame. Guess I'll try Xenoblade instead.
Dont skip the whole series. If the first game doesn't click with you, PLEASE play Xenosaga 3 at the very least. It's required reading for Xenoblade.
It's good, but might be hard to play today if you're young because it can be slow with lots of cutscenes. They went too hard in wanting a unique battle system in 2 that killed the series (3 games instead of a planned 6)
>>737701725I mean, nothing stopping you from giving Xenosaga a go, maybe it gets better with the sequels. Just don't go in expecting something on par with Xenogears. And yeah definitely play Xenoblade Chronicles.
>>737701580>Ugly graphicsI'm willing to let the rest slide as your personal opinion but this is just factually wrong. Xenosaga looks amazing for a PS2 game.
>>737695674its even better
>>737701995>They went too hard in wanting a unique battle system in 2 that killed the seriesNah, it was Takahashi's wife stirring company drama and getting herself fired that crippled the series.Also, spending like half of the first game's budget on fully orchestral soundtrack sure didn't look good to the publisher.
>>737702031Not sure if serious
>>737702282This was a decent attempt at translating anime style into 3D and a hell of a lot more interesting than the standardized look that Japan has settled on since then, IMO. The mecha designs are all objectively great. Also there are visual glitches in certain places if you don't play the game in software mode on PCSX2.
>Shion>makes literally EVERYTHING about herself>treats her brother like shit despite him always being there for her>LITERALLY betrays the party for Chad's cock Unironically feels like she was written by a chud to justify all women being self centered whores uncapable of empathy
>Episode II debuted at #2 in sales charts, going on to sell 280,000 in Japan during 2004. It also saw commercial success in North America, although no sales figures were revealed. Despite this, Episode II underperformed commercially, reaching just over 50% of Namco's projected sales targetSame old tale, huh.
>>737701580Generic reply that can apply to anything. What's your agenda?
>>737702282this looks great, the fuck are you on about
Last time I played this I used the attribute pushing method and just destroyed the last boss. I have not played it in a while. I do wish I could go back and experience KOSMOS's awakening or the other ass pull things she did. Good times. Maybe when I get around to building a home theater that I can plug my ps2 into I'll play it again.
>>737695674Shion is so much hotter than any of those Gears or Blades broads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KLmuOinlk
>>737695674>>737695790It's one of those "cinematic" RPG's that were kind of popular back in the day... or maybe it was just Parasite Eve that started it, but it's still very pretentious and tries to do the same thing, just more of it.It's not a terrible game, generally speaking, but yes, it's a lot of movies, some of which can be 10-20 minutes, maybe even longer.I didn't really like the series, but I wanted to. Finished the first game, but changing the voice actors in 2 and the pacing ruined it for me. 3 is supposed to be better, but I never played it. Probably still wrapped on my shelf.
>>737704967>Finished the first game, but changing the voice actors in 2 and the pacing ruined it for me.Should have played the undub. Also the gameplay in 2 is genuinely a fucking slog I. recommend cheating your way through it.
>>737705142You can just skip 2, I did and had no problem picking up 3. They also made KOSMOS a hag in the second one, it was disgusting.
>>737704967pretentious is an empty buzzword people use when they don't get something, yet nobody would say "moby dick is pretentious"
play "crimson planet 2" instead its not a jrpg but it has the setting and fun gameplay
>>7377053242 has cool moments and things to see, I don't recommend skipping it, only the gameplay part sucks and it's easy to cheat your way through it if you're emulating. Just give yourself maxed out stats or whatever.
>>737705469>only the gameplay part sucks and it's easy to cheat your way through it if you're emulating. Just give yourself maxed out stats or whateverI'm speechless
>>737705142There was a time people bought physical copies of games from the store. There was no "undub" option, and I don't really have any interest in downloading and playing it again.>>737705335Ok
>>737705883You obviously haven't played it or you would understand, go away monke. >>737705929I owned a physical copy of Xenosaga Ep1 for a very long time and never got farther than like 2 hours in so I understand not being enthused, it wasn't until I played the undub that I was able to get into it.
>>737704298peak contrarian post
>>737706117I think I got somewhere between 6-12 or so hours into the second game before I just got tired of hearing some of the more annoying voices. There was much more interesting shit going on in 2004 for me to care about my nostalgia for Xenogears by that point. Xenosaga 1 was already a snoozefest with terribly long dungeon grinding that I just didn't care about 2 when it rolled around. I was mostly a PC gamer anyway.