This is one of the greatest games ever made in the history of mankind, and I am tired of pretending otherwise.
>>737698774I disagree
IDK about that one specificallyMaybe 2 or 3 but 1 is too barebones.
>>737698774I need to give this another go. Had fun, but I think I seriously didn't understand Total War at the time
>>737698774Yeah it's great. Obviously has some issues but so does every other Total War game. Fuck ton of DLC but I think you'll still get a lot of hours out of it if you just own the three base games.
Amazing game, held back by incompetent, lazy and greedy devs.
>>7376987742 was the peak. 3 is disappointing and 40k is going to be a joke. Pharaoh dynasties is actually surprisingly decent
>>737698774You forgot the 2 in the title anon
>>737703094faggot nigger
>>737698774give multiplayer support! NOW!
>>737698774Why?
>>737698774In a million different fundamental ways it's worse than old Total Wars, but sheer quantity has a quality all of its own, it really is great at this point (with all DLCs).Sieges are somehow still absolutely shit though.
>>737706049i hear this a lot, why are sieges bad?
>>737698774>Who calls?
>>737706726Defenders get cheats. Except the AI will never ever assault you unless they have overwhelming odds so you the player will never be the one using said cheats. Even with said cheats the AI is dumb dogshit, so any extra casualties you take are entirely because defenders get free constant damage on the attackers via free towers.It is entirely unfun to attack, and the AI will never put you in a position where defense can win.
>>737707517This is what I don't like about TW in general. It's rare to get significant open field battles since the AI will hole up in town if they don't significantly outnumber you so you're constantly dealing with miserable siege slogs outside of random skirmishes with your shitter stacks.
>>737706726other anon looks slightly retardedpeople hate sieges because the pathing is jacked up on gates and climbing walls, some units get stuck a lot or do retarded shit, and then they get trapped between the doors and become inactive.Sieges with tools take too long to execute as you wait for shit to build, so no one does it, despite being one of the cooler things about it, they make it take 10 turns just to have a few towers.So you don't wait for sieges, you attack them right away, preferably with a unit that can damage doors so you dont have to wait a turn for a ram. The reason you can do this is because units have pocket ladders and can climb walls anyway, but you can only launch a siege attack if you have something that damages doors, hence a siege attack unit instead of building a ram. If you don't give them that, you're making them wait half a dozen turns for a proper siege army, or you're making them attack head on with just a ram against tower defenses that will absolutely brutalize your army if they're upgraded.In short, they don't know what the fuck they're doing and all avenues lead to a very frustrating experience regardless, so they stick with something that is barely functional and doesn't piss everyone off too much.Also the maps are tight, more about looking cool than being properly defensible, not enough places to create choke points and whatnot, retarded restrictions like not being able to cast spells while on walls... it's just a mess... but it works for now.
>>737707969This is what mods that turn sieges in field battles are for
>>737707517>>737707969>>737708128can't you just, idkuse mods to fix it?
>>737698774it's cool to think about but the gameplay is clunky and barebones. mostly tedium and not fun. and that's not to mention the paradox tier DLC strategy where they even went ahead and locked blood vfx behind a paywall lmao
>>737708987so mods are supposed to fix all the problems with games? loland yes, i know they can and often do, but thats not the point. you're just arguing for lazy devs, they should be fixing their game, not other people.all this is irrelevant anyway, because i dont mind the siege mechanics as they are, im only telling anon why people dislike them.
still waiting for a proper crack. don't want hiv.
>>737708987I've tried a few siege mods, and the best of the lot was the one that just disabled sieges and turned them into regular battles.If you know of a better one, I'm ready to hear it.
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>>737698774The second one is the best and I can’t quite explain why. TW3 builds on everything TW2 did but for some reason it just feels off. The UI, the objectives, the overall presentation feels more like a chore than its predecessor. Not to mention the performance.
>>737706726Total Warhammer was my introduction into the Total War franchise and having played old titles I can assure you anons are correct when they say sieging in TW is dogshit. I had no idea how bad it was until I played Attila and Shogun 2 where the sieges were handled so much better. Maybe another anon with experience with others can chime in and speak to whether even Attila and Shogun are dogshit compared to the other titles.
>>737703094>40k is going to be a joke40k total war is gonna be a generational game lilbro
>>737709987Holy shit CA still has money for marketing? I thought Hyenas ate it all up
>>737710349CA is free to shill with no pushback now that they finally tortured the one person willing to call them out on their practices off the internet. All that's left is people who's livelyhoods depend on sucking CA's cock as balls deep as they can for nourishment.
>>737710856As much of a creature legend was its depressing how every other total war "content creator" is such a push over for CAs bullshit
>>737709956Sieges have always been shit in TW games, but they have been getting progressively worse as almost every aspect of the combat part of the game gets worse.
>>73770998740k, based on what they've said so far and the very little gameplay shown, is going to be such a huge departure from how other TW games are played that its going to be either kino of the highest order (unlikely) or complete dogshit, with basically no chance it will be average.From what I've seen so far I'd hesitate to even call it a Total War game. That doesn't necessarily mean it will be bad. But the fact they are planning on trying to make it playable on consoles gives me a lot of pause. I don't really think performance is going to be the issue. It will be extremely dumbed down AI in order to give players using a controller even a fighting chance at winning. RTS games have never worked on console.
>>737698774Love this lil' nigga like you wouldnt believe
>>737698774Its fun for the first 100 turns, when everyone is weak and armies are small.After that it just turns into a mess of doomstacks and the same late game unit copy pasted 80 times.
>>737698774Attila still remains the top total war because it manages to put a break (somewhat, but still ahead of any tw title to date) on uncontrolled player expansion, which leads to snowballing, which leads to everything becoming trivial. However, slowing down and building tall gives massive returns, which allows you to snowball harder. Its an okay balance. It also has some decent survival campaigns in the form of ere and wre, which no other game has replicated well so far
>>737711580This nigga is my favorite
One of the biggest problems in this game are all the retarded stat buffs from everything. Fights only feel interesting for the first 1/5th of a campaign and then afterthat you're effortlessly plowing through enemy formations thanks to stat buffs overpowering youAll meaningful decisions in combat stop at that point, you can just faceroll the AI, often with an army composed of a single unit type.I have never finished a campaign in this game because it just becomes such a fucking slog by midgame, going through the motions instead of making interesting choices and having actual challenges to deal with. Even the skirmish mode fights instead of playing campaign wears thin after awhile because the AI is just bad and the maps do little to nothing interesting to change combat.I just can't enjoy this game. It's too flawed and there isn't any redeemable piece of gameplay that justified keeping the game installed.
>>737698774>Over 10 years>Still can't play the finished versionThanks for betatesting i guess
>>737701652Warhammer is not a proper TW, you need to use the RPG and faction mechanics to actually play properly. I fact, people who actually came from historic games will probably fair worse when you they realize that their spearmanii front line will get single-handedly destroyed by a lv50 lord, Chaosman the Hammer&Anvil-Rapist>>737709956Shogun 2 has the best sieges. Its amazing how they went from Empire/Napoleon kill boxes to Shogun sieges with his layered castles. >>737712346That is a problem with all Total Wars and strategy games in general. There is not really a point to keep going further 100 turns unless you wanna paint the map.
