Really hope they change the design of this UI, looks terrible.
>>737700534they turned xiv into mobile game slop lmao>mobile ui>battlepass systems>seasonsits unironically over for xiv
To think OP has genuinely been doing this for almost 2 days straight on cooldown
>>737700534why the FUCK would you not upgrade your weapon first
>>737700742Well XIV trannies have been getting dunked on for approaching 2 years straight on /v/ so he's pretty euphoric at the idea of getting "payback"
>>737700534UI doesn't matter.. the game happens when you're not using the UI
>>737700534>there's... a circle around the PC!!!that being said I don't really like the vast amount of open space. it seems like it's designed to be a full screen UI.
>>737700848I'll be honest senpai I have no fucking clue what the UI is supposed to represent. Like I get that there's this whole reward track at the bottom with like totems and orchestrion rolls and mounts and shit but I geniuenly don't get what the 'locked'/'unlocked' gear means.
>>737700962If you want to learn a hard sequence of buttons to press, why don't you learn every Chopin etude on piano?
>>737700848I assume it's supposed to be some kind of visual checklist you can make ingame, or you have to upgrade in a semi-fixed order where the most important one is last
>>737700962Honestly there's basically no difference from the current rotation other than a few OGCDs like Circle of Scorn not being there and the fact that the rotation is far less strict in execution.
>>737700534one of the few games that hasn't taken the minimalist/smart tv ui pill, pure soul
>kate firedHIROI STATUS?
>>737701045>here's why having less options/flavor in combat is actually... LE GOOD!! and why it's exactly what we've been asking ALL ALONGlmao this tranny cope
>>737701045because that is actually difficult.i want to be the biggest fish in a tiny pond, which is why i turn standing and hitting into a competitive sport
>>737700962this should include an aoe section>shield lob > shield lob > shield bash
>>737700962Thanks! does this means I can finally fight the monster in front of me instead of learning a piano sheet?
>>737700742>there is news about Video Game>local poster gets upset there are threads about Video Game
>>737700962It's a reactive job now, which I understand makes balancetroons melt.Well, the noose is always waiting.
"Evercold" is such a shit name it's unreal
>DRG Elusive Jump now has a sprint on it>BRD has active dodging and a party movement speed buff>WHM Temperance is now a party movement speed buffStand and let thing resolve is dead too.
>>737700962Nice, I can focus on the fight instead of my ever-increasing arthritic hands!
Thoughts on this structure for the Midcore difficulty?>Unlocks at the same time as Normal, one week before Savage>Weekly lockout, drops gear that is 10 ILVL less than Savage, equivalent to Unaugmented Tomestone.>Finishing the entire tier once a week gives a bonus item that allows you to Augment a mid-tier item to Savage-tier.>Does not drop the weaponThoughts?
Are we the warrior of ice or warrior of fire in this expac?
>>737701354seems fine. as long as its loot exclusive to savage after savage comes out. pick one or the other
>>737701137There are no options, though, show me your tranny folder
>>737701418Warrior of WANDER
>>737701180Yes.This will vastly depend on the boss design moving forward. If they don't make many scenarios where you can use these then it will get boring real fast.At the very least, I don't think a boss will stop attacking for 20 seconds lmao.
>>737701418were the far wanderer picker up of dogshit
I actually ran some calculations based on what we saw, and basically...you actually almost never do the full 1234 combo uninterrupted if you don't want to.At 2.5 GCD you just don't have enough time to do all four attacks before regaining Dragonsbane charges. Sure you can let it run more without risking overcap but the positionals + OGCD is almost surely a potency gain over doing the full combo.Also something not noted here is that the Stardiver GCD combo is way faster than normal, it's like 1.5 GCD.
Tyrant and the new criterion are definitely designed for evolved jobs now that we've seen some of the changes.
if only the game engine wasn't so fucking clunky, wow feels good to play and that's why it is still alive
>>737701354I assume the tomestone weapon is just something you can only get after week 7.Also how are this supposed to work with old tomestones gear and materials, it this shit only for the capped gear?
>>737701471Imagine a second phase Barbie, but it's whole fight that gets even faster. No Stops.At all.
>>737701596I'm not sure what you mean by that.
>>737701592>if only the game engine wasn't so fucking clunky, wow feels good to play and that's why it is still aliveTRVKE as much as I have modern day blizzard for hiring and forcing gay tranny shit.
>>737701318Bard's bow-dodge is pulled straight from Monster Hunter, recognized it instantly; Adept Bow dodges from Gen U, or just Bow dodges from Wilds
>>737701592>feels good to playyeah, but wow's content is fucking ass right now
>>737701634The season pass weekly points. Are they only replacing the 450 a week Tomes? what about Poetics and the other tomes you buy materials with? How will we earn them post 8.0 ?
>>737701925Most likely replacing both 450-a-week and infinite tomestones, Poetics will probably completely take all other tomestones' place and relics/raid weapons do something else
doe all the sky islands imply a autistic created history of airships and economy kind of like sky pirates ?
>>737701925Unfortunately I think that's something we'll only know in Tokyo.
>>737700962a welcome changeexecuting a beginner piano tutorial while someone throws volleyballs at you (current fight design) is not actually that funyour single target filler getting to relegated to one button is finenotice how all the rest of the buttons (cleave burst, parry, defensives) could (ok, one fight per expac) interact with the fight (adds/priority targets, tank busters, tank busters/raid damage)I would have preferred to intertwine the job's kit to interact with it's role abilities (like with wow tanks), but this is a good startthey seem to be trying to dig themselves out of the endwalker/dawntrail fight design hole
>>737701696nu-wow is pretty good (gameplay-wise) when you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you it's woke (the writing still sucks shit)
>Paladin has a burst every 40 seconds>Dragoon has a burst every 60The aligned bursts demon has been defeated....it's finally over.....
Does this mean the daily roulettes will be infinitely runnable for rewards since it's all weekly now...?
>>737701130considering how often they cycle writers around I highly doubt hiroi will ever get to write anything more significant than a job quest ever again
>>737700962Does evolved mode not have aoe weaponskill combo?
>>737700534Yeah, it feels a bit mobile game season pass UI.
>>7377007422.5 day global cooldown
>>737702418doesn't seem like it no. I'm guessing it'll have some cleaving on single target by default.
>>737702350From how they framed it, yes, it seems like the missions are repeatable until you hit the 4k points cap.You can either spread it out alongside other activities that give points or autistically grind it all in one day.
>>737701534There's no reason to stay at 2.5gcd without the ogcd spam or 2m buffs
>>737702518Well that's good when they slap us with relic steps that are like:>do 20 high level dungeon roulettes, alliance raids, trials, and bologna
>>737702539I'm just talking worst case scenario. Ideally yes, this does open up the possibility of true skillspeed builds to squeeze in more filler attacks in-between charges.
>>737701592>wow feels good to playNo idea what people mean when they say this. WoW not having legacy controls makes it feel like dogshit just to move around
BRING BACK ACCURACY
>>737702620whats the theoretical max on attack speed for melee, and cast speed for casters atm? anyone know?
>>737702474What happens if you end up in a situation where you need to kill two bosses at the same time like in Ultimates?
>>737700962>already trying to create an "opener guide">probably a shitpost
>>737702670Like 2.15 for non-Ninja non-Monk Jobs? Assuming also skillspeed food.
>>737700534is wuk lamat still the star of the show?
>>737700962Dumbest shit I seen before we don’t even know if that’s how the full combat will be and trying to set a standard is peak retarded
>>737702748They replacing him with Kum Tamal
>>737702748WoL is in the front since 7.2
we are pso2 nowhttps://youtu.be/L7TzzBeV7vc?si=Io4c71-_FimkXlzu
>>737702748Why are people still obsessed with that failure of a character?
>>737702708It's a balancetroon seethepost. You can't see all the passive aggressiveness coming off it?
>>737702873typicalyou can see the angst drip off it
>>737702850but why, who wanted this
>>737702861Just shitposters upset they are losing their one thing they had, at max she will say good bye to us at the start of 7.5 then we head back to garlemald
>>737703019what
>>737702850I was honestly expecting Ironmouse to be announced singing the main theme of Evercold, but instead she added nothing to the panel and did three cover songs.
>>737703016The people who couldn't afford a real celebrity endorsement.
does all raid gear look awful in this expansion?
>>737702665Unironically wouldn't mind this since gearing up will be easier. As long as direct hit remains too. Maybe instead of completely whiffing an attack on miss, you just do reduced damage
>>737702690I don't think there's ever been a two-boss kill so tight that you need to switch to AOEs to do it.
>>737703168Yes
>>737703197>since gearing up will be easierBut for what purpose? Gearing up is already piss easy. In fact it's so easy that I'm suprised that they haven't just removed gear entirely
>>737703016working with tards gives you DEI points
>>737703019Anon... we already said goodbye to her at the start of 7.4, because the rest of the Scions fucked off back to Eorzea, and we fucked off to Treno.
So aside from introducing the idea of using interdimensional fusion to merge the shards rather than to absorb them, all we are going to do is go around the fourth and free these titans and their respective aether to rebalance that shard? Each titan clearly is aspected to a certain element and none shown so far shares the same one.
>>737703016Ironmouse is becoming "the videogame cover girl" ever since she did stuff for Warframe.idc, sing and get paid, lady
>>737703398>idc bruh get dat bag you kno
>>737703016remember, you are not the target audience for marketing because you already are playing tranny simulator 14
Holy fucking SEETHE, these shitters are crashing the fuck out.
Jesus Christ, how horrific. She can't even sing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il2tevTVRpg
>>737700962>the amount of people defending thisI'll remember this when everyone is bitching a month after launch that their main is "boring now".
>>737703197just combine it>not hitting the accuracy cap has a chance to deal a glancing blow>going past the cap has a chance to deal a direct hit
>>737703559Alvin and the Chipmunks sounding pretty fire here!
>>737702748No. They still had to give her a big hero moment to save the day in 7.3 sadly but I'm pretty sure she's gone the way of Lyse or well most female characters now.
Realistically, what are the chances the story isn't complete dogshit again?Have the patches been as bad as DT / EW patches?
>>737700962>it's the same shit just bunched together to make it look less 'complicated' than their 2 minute meta troon versionHate these faggots, simple as.
>Evolved will trivialize conte-ACK
>>737703328Yea but we haven’t went back to eorzea yet right? Unless I’m missing something, not home so I’m have to check later
>>737703656>UWU
>>737703654where is the atonement combo then?
>>737702748She was kidnapped by children never to be seen again. We even got a little fair well, "there she goes! who knows what other adventures await them because lord knows were not ever going to see the bitch again" send off.
>>737703493Is this shit even going to have a chance?This whole fucking fanbase baffles me. They've been bitching about wanting change for years, but they're afraid to rip the fucking bandaid.
>>737703559Bit of a shame that she's doing this kind of dogshit, when she's a trained opera singer. She actually has a pretty great voice.But you do what you do to get that bag, I guess.
>>737703559Even AI Fubuki sounds better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ngs1o9OCok
>>737703827>Is this shit even going to have a chance?Absolutely. The crowd at fanfest went nuts for the previews. These shitters crying on the forum will be ignored.
>>737700962>nooooo where is my rote piano gameplay this is heckin notta chungus!!!
>>737703656>WAR and DRK in the same partyNot likely.
>>737703789>where's my 1,1,1probably where the other one is, also 'use whenever'
>>737703827There's a reason why reborn exists. It exists but in reality no one will be playing reborn after the 1st week.
>>737703493They're going to rape these ideas in the crib with their nonstop bitching no matter what.>>737703827And this while they're literally keeping in the old rotations too, exactly to avoid this kind of pants shitting.
>>737703905That isn't a WAR, it's a damn Marauder.
>>737703751you're correct, the final 7.4 quest ends in solution 9, and we're probably heading straight to garlemald for 7.5. It'll probably end back in tulliyolal, and 7.56 will be the return trip
>>737703905Double OT has a far more likelyhood of being meta than double MT, or even MT/OT.
>>737704003it's a near certainty that double OT will be better, unless they avoid the mistakes that allowed sch/sge to be king
>>737702081They kinda don't talk about what sky pirates actually *do* beyond poaching shipments sometimes (if they're not afraid of pissing off Ishgard) and being heroes-of-the-sky but they do have rivalries, reputations and their own code of honor
https://poal.me/kpwipuhttps://poal.me/kpwipuhttps://poal.me/kpwipu
>>737700962Balancetroons are mad holy shit
One day, everyone who was against 2minute will suddenly always have supported it.And by one day I mean yesterday.
>>737703626The patches are definitely a step up from DT but then DT was a step into a pit so that's not exactly much of an accomplishment. Depends on who the writers are. Hopefully Hiroi is kept far away.
FFXIV's most involved and best designed job was pre-enshittificated BLM and it was a flat damage class with little key presses, why are fags so obsessed with keeping things as filler and burst, shit is so fucking boring and lame, you literally spend 3/4s of your time hitting 1,2,3 anyway and they're attempting to mock this>>737700962
>>737704242I was against homogenized cooldowns since ShB because I knew shit like this would eventually happen.
Nu PLD did nothing positive to show off evolved mode and really made it seem like turning every job into SMN, but the others, especially BRD gave me just enough hope to be looking forward to berlin fanfest. I quit the game during 7.0 but I'd come crawling back if they made SGE or DRK fun
>>737704003>>737704106Is this WAR cope?
>>737704327But sage is fun!
>>737704242I don't think it's a majority, just the usual 41%
>>737703656It would be kind of funny if the evolved changes affects the base classes the same way as the jobs so that a lvl 50 Marauder plays the exact same as a lvl 50 WAR and at lvl 110 they are just WAR but without all of the traits.I have no fucking clue why they don't just remove classes from the game entirely at this point, they could just spawn players into the game with the stones pre-equipped and then just make it so that your job and stone changes name once you reach a certain level or job quest and nothing meaningful would change about the game
>>737704242Eh, thats just how things go. There were people glazing the pre 2 minute meta days not that long into getting the 2 minute meta. Even though the massive whining about it is what brought about the 2 minute meta in the first place.Always gonna be "new bad, old good".
Here's a wacky idea I cooked up:What if Evolved Summoner gets the skill to 'fuse' Egis? Like if you fuse Garuda and Titan you form Leviathan, if you fuse Ifrit and Garuda you get Ramuh, if you fuse Ifrit and Titan you get Ravana. Each have their own effects when summoned that are beyond just 'do damage'.
>>737703827Nobody sane uses the official forums for any MMO, understand that those places are where negativity goes to stew and thrive. So much so that FFXIV's OF inoculated itself against account thieves and gil botters running in to troll. They check your profile to see if you only have one combat job leveled and/or all crafters-gatherers leveled before even evaluating your stupid opinion or doomposting, because only having the one combat job leveled for the sake of your gathers/crafts means you're probably an account thief or a gil botter trying to taunt the game's actual players.
>>737704361no I'm just doing the usual pld doomposting
>>737704361No, I dont play WAR. its just what this game values.Don't get me wrong the slides make MT sound cooler, and in casual content it probably will be.But extra raidwide mit is a far, far more useful thing in high end content compared to>you parry shit and take autos betterI also fully expect MT's tankiness to be taxed and OTs to do more damage.
>>737700534Considering the SE CEO was up there giving speeches you can be assured he was the one forcing this ugly shit on the dev team
>>737702850final fantasy?
>>737704426Sounds like you are over-complicating things when Evolved is meant to simplify everything. The concept is to fuse and combine existing spells into single buttons; not re-create the mudra system. Divine Benison+Aquaveil=one button now. Clemency+Holy Spirit=one button now.
>>737703827> yoshi cares about what westerns say on the forums if all places lol lmao
>>737704559But /v/ keeps telling me that PLD will be both the best at tanking and the best at dealing damage.
>>737704598Nothing says that Evolved can't fundamentally add some elemetns to the Job tho, see Dragoon with Left-Right added positionals.You can still add complex mechanics in relatively few buttons.
>>737704380Ever listening to the 2% of retards that take fflogs seriously makes yoshitpiss the biggest retard of all time and has only ever made the game worse
>>737704607he does as most "westerns" were previously asking for every change implimentedalso jappo people are having a similar meltdown over in the jp forums, the forums are the same negativity regardless of locale
>>737704686As if it wasn't just an excuse to make balancing easier for the dev team.
>>737704327Yeah, paladin just seemed like a button prune and a counter added. Dragoon and bard looked like completely new jobs that, while having few buttons, had stuff to do with them that seemed interesting and not just a prune.
>>737704634I don't think any of the tanks are necessarily going to be slouches at what they do still and it's mostly a function of people taking "main tank and off tank" waaaay too fucking seriously, when the devs themselves are comparing the two roles to barrier healers and pure healers who are still interchangeable 99.99% of the time. It'll probably be: Paladin can slap the boss with his shield after a specific counter ability, so can the new tank, their personal mitigation ability (Holy Sheltron) is stronger than the WAR/DRK/GNB equivalent but they *can't* apply it to party members and have a weaker party mit (Divine Veil) to compensate, others can't counter but they *can* apply their personal mitigation buff to other party members (TBN, Heart of Corundum, Nascent Flash) at full strength
>>737700962the thing holding xiv back is other xiv players
>>737704739they don't give a shit about balance, the 2 minute meta has had the same exact fucking buff the samurai comp for its entire existence, if anything it made it worse as it killed all off meta variety and any semblance of fun
>not forcing every job to concentrate their skills into rigid preset windows>add tons more job specific flavor to each job>this is a bad thing because there are less insicidual buttons to pressI hate this tranny infested playerbase so fucking much
>>737704673I already have enough trouble figuring out where the front and back of some bosses are without using the compass under them. Forcing me to now figure out their left or right side the same way is awful.
>>737704870>taking OF goblins seriouslyAnd then Anon was the trannies
All the weapons that were shouted out during the Q&A yesterday were gay and cringe and he confirmed someone picked the right one for one of the jobs, so it's confirmed to be gay and cringe. (unless it's a tank flail)
If the most status-quo motherfucker in the FFXIV community likes it, it's a good sign.
>>737704634If you want the actual result, the new tank will be broken until 8.2 because SE wants you to play it.
>>737704926Hammer, fuck you
>>737704926he specifically turned flail into morning star so i think thats what it will be
Duty support feels like it's ruining the story sometimes when characters exist just for the number.
>>737704110wonder if there will be any interesting world building on that front but probably more on the ice waste and the big boss guys is more likely or some guys autistic focus on how alphinaud cant swim.
>>737701137>optionsthis is how you know somebody doesn't actually play this game beyond roulettesno, nigger, rotations in this game are not freeformyou hit the same buttons in the same order for 8 minutes straight
>>737704926It's gonna be a crossbow for the new pranged
balance this, balance that, custom more your character but nobody is addressing the pace and quantity of the content, this tuesday you are going to play the msq-dungeon-trial and the alliance raid in less than 4 hours and then you don't have nothing to play until the end of july with occult crescent 2, that is what is killing the game.
>>737704870>add tons more job specific flavor to each jobThis is doing all of the heavy lifting for my opinion on it. I had zero faith they'd actually make things interesting and just push things into single button combos. I am now looking forward to Evolved after seeing they're actually trying.
>>737705032There is literally nothing wrong with a basic content expectation
1.0 was better
>>737705032Another TRVKE for the thread that everyone will ignore.
>>737705032maybe i enjoy speculating about gameplay AND playing dress up
>>737703880>the super fan dick suckers that paid $500 to be there loved itno shit
>>737704865Didn't we see PLD block damage for an ally in the video?I doubt they'll remove that functionality.
>>737705159They are keeping Cover but I think Yoshida would gouge the team's eyes out if they suggested ridding Paladin of a signature and legacy ability
>>737705012>b-but sometimes you hit a couple more filler gcds and delay your burst by 10 seconds!unironically seen these comments in defense of this current dogshit combat
>>737705032>nobody is addressing the pace and quantity of the contentwhat is it about the retarded mongoloid niggers of today talking out of their ass and saying blatantly wrong things?
>>737705032They did say during the keynote that they were going to speed up the pace of patch releases in Evercold, which got a massive pop from the crowd. So there's that, at least. Hopefully they follow through on that promise. Maybe the CEO kneeling and offering infinite money was real and they can make stuff faster now.
>>737700848>why the FUCK would you not upgrade your weapon firstMaybe they're entering the patch undergeared and can't do the next savage or whatever without buying a cheaper piece.
i miss eorzea kino desuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMpN_izTc3k
>>737705032Then you should unsub and go play another game that gives you real bang for your buck. I suggest Fortnite and Roblox. Those games give you a constant and abundant stream of content for free.
>>737705194I'm cool with that but it makes this split look really dumb.I hope OT DRK keeps the TBN break system then.
It's fucking hilarious how Evercold is literally just Shadowbringers+Heavenswardfor its not just the fact that its a shard, but that the shard has almost the same issue as the First.Ice Aether being just a step away from stagnant Light, after all.
>>737705292winning
>>737705239By "speeding up" I'm guessing they mean going back to the old schedule of patches every 3.5 months rather than every 4 months.
>>737705308Cover does now have the inconvenience of a rush-to-party member being a party of it (flavorful but not necessarily the best move for the Paladin himself to be making at a given moment)I personally see no reason how TBN works would be changed, if anything I think its working is part of their thought process behind the "off-tank" designation
>5 years of complaining about the SMN rework>now people are cheering that every job is SMNRotation: 1111111111111111111111 222 111111111111111111Now everyone can be a healer or SMN.
>>737704983Its not really Duty Support thats the issue. But SE's insistence that Duty Support be with canon story characters that just have to be Scions + main story cast.The Duty Support doesn't have that same "ruin the story" feel for old expansions, because they weren't designed with it in mind. So you just get random adventurer NPCs as your Duty party. And thats how it should be.They need to go back to just handwaving your party with the "you and adventurer buddies did good" like they used to. Lets them not whore out the Azem crystal for trials, too. Keep in the back pocket more, letting it have a bigger impact when used.
>>737705358We won't know what they mean until it's out, but it should assuage the diaper shitters here that believe the game needs to be Fortnite or else it will instantly shrivel and die
>>737705358Yeah, that was my assumption, as well. But I'd be totally fine with that if it's at that pace and has a healthy amount of content across each patch. 3.5 months per patch is a solid pace if there's meat in them.
>>737705383I look forward to the asspain a couple months into the expansion. People are going to be bored out of their fucking minds when they realize the boss design won't change in the slightest.
>>737705292>Parsefaggotry deadOh yeah, we are BACK
>>737705383Everybody making a Summoner comparison to Dragoon jumping about like a schizophrenic poodle is a fucking idiot
>>737705383as opposed to 123123123123123 4444?
>>737704865I just think MT will be any tank who passively blocks/parries autos desu. I can see them being lazy like that given some of the old job changes that were made seemingly by throwing darts at a board
>>737705358>rather than every 4 months.Isn't it more like 5 months these days?
>>737705259Remember, this is a FAVORITE song, not the Mhigger version, the GARLEAN version. Ishikawa is back.....Zenos........welcome home.
>>737705546?Whose
>>737705607Koji Fox's personal favorites
>WAR keeps all the self healing tools for flavor>never uses them anymore because OTcuck shed lmao
>>737705673I personally can't see them keeping their ridiculous self healing, under the current philosophy that would probably peg them as MT and not OT. Maybe if Bloodwhetting is the ONLY self-heal they have (and that's honestly still enough to render them nigh-invulnerable in dungeons)
>>737705673Revenge for Heavensward memes
>>737704870look, having fun with a game badpressing the same 35 superfluous separate buttons the same way every time good
>>737705673>WAR has like 7 non-role buttons if you condense all their shit.It could unironically be the most changed job if they give them enough to reach 16~.
>>737701309They apparently wanted "absolute zero" but copyright law kept them from that kino.
>>737705673yeah, you need to be healing the Main tank. if you're a good OT, we'll go buy you a new staf- i mean axe after the raid
>>737700534Why does one retard keep spamming this false narrative that the UI looks like XIII? They don't look anything alike. The XIV UI mock up just looks like a generic mobile UI, it doesn't look anything like any of the XIII games at all. It looks the most like Tencent's mobile XIV game's UI.
>>737704939The biggest FF14 shill on the Tube likes it? Color me shocked.
I haven't played in years and I'm thinking about playing again. How are Monk, Samurai, and Dark Knight these days? Those were my main jobs.
>>737704939Mrhappy is generally one of the better ones.Which doesn't say much. They're all still cancer, but at least he's not nearly as petulant as most of them
>>737704634>add counters to the game>they made it seem like it only works on tank busters>plds "perfect" counter only hit for like 50kunless tankbusters are gonna be going out every 20 seconds then this shit is a complete meme
>missed playing ff14 and got excited about ice themed expansion>read about gameplay changes
>>737705798It has more in common with Stranger of Paradise's skill tree visually than it does with FF13, I think the comparison is made pretty much because "your character in a circle in the middle"
>>737705405It used to be fine even with canon characters before trial duty support, now the number of characters is just too big.
>>737705823Happy to me is the Mr. Beast of FFXIV after he sanitized the hell out of his public-image
>>737705383Yeah true you know what is sovl instead?15678->41234->815678 rinse and repeat dump some ogcds in between
>>737705868What exactly did you read to make you think the changes are bad?What exactly about the way it is now sounds better?
>>737705871It's just so retarded. He's been doing this since the live letter. He said it looks like XIII so I posted an image of XIII's UI, which obviously looks nothing at all like the XIV mock up UI, but he called me a retard because I couldn't "see it". Then he moved the goalpost and chose Lightning Returns, I guess, because there's only one character and they're in the middle of the screen, but it still doesn't look anything like the XIV mock up UI. The mock up UI just looks like a generic mobile game. If anything it looks most like the Tencent's mobile XIV game's UI. Even has the same amber tone.
>>7377058187.0 made Dark Knight exactly as simple as it once was but rather than the 30 straight seconds of double weaving that felt kinda neat during EW, the burst just lost a bunch of actions
>>737705863>Content is in development and subject to change>Judging the efficacy of it based on number values>for an expansion where we don't even know what the numbers will look like at max levelTweaking how much damage the counter does to make it desirable would be the easiest thing in the world.
yeah, you need to be vagueing the main thread. if you're a good anon, we'll go buy you a new keyb- i mean mouse after today
Seems like people think the gameplay in this game is only the opener and not the 123 123 123 123 inbetween 60 and 120 burst
>>737705508>>737705510>>737705951You will unsub after the first month because you are bored.
>>737706068Everybody's so brain-melted they're trying to force the new system into their mindframe of the old system
>>737705781
>>737705515almost 4.5
>>737705960>nowgameplay has been downhill since shb, ew and dt made things even dumber
>winter>airships>mecha>garlean tank job>ishikawayeah, i'm thinking we're back
>>737705818depends on when exactly you stopped. MNK has changed a lot over the years but it's in a good space.
So where's Kate?
You know if it really bothers you, you can just clone the main button multiple times.
>>737706118Considering the old system still exists, is getting expanded on, and is going to have some amount of parity with the new system you'd be pretty retarded to think that fights are going to be radically, fundamentally different
>>737705818Monk is basically unchanged from EW as far as the button presses. Their dot and debuff were changed into self buffs, but you still press them at the same time as before. All they really got were high potency follow up attacks to riddles of fire and wind.
>>737706198how many positionals does MNK have currently?
>>737706257
>>737706271You don't want to know. 2
repeated use of said words at an insane pace since the liveletter>parsetranny>we're back>doomtrancerwhy is this thread so brown
>>7377062712, 1 on each 3rd stance GCD
>>737706068Even then, the opener is rote once you've rehearsed it like a good boy.So all there is to do is repeat the thing you already studied, then spend 30 sec at least in a gcd combo lull, press like 4 different buttons, then spend another 30 sec in a gcd combo lull, then burst again
>>737703493>dynamic tap or hold in zivHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>737706232https://www.tokyoplayers.org/event-details/lemons-lemons-lemons-lemons-lemons-2026-02-14-15-00
>>737700962kek raidtrannies are so mad i love ittheir trannybalance d*scord has the trannyflag all year part of their icon btw
>>737706257The 'old system' is still fundamentally different. Evolve Bard and Reborn Bard will have different rotations but their songs will still have the same effects because ALL raid buffs are gone.
How would you even quantify a 'perfect' counter/guard/dodge in this game? Attacks snapshot in this game so if you're in the bad when the attack goes off you're eating the hit no matter what, it's locked in already.
>>737706112>cat troon
>>737706182>IshikawaIs she really back? If so holy shit we really are winning.
>kates moonlighting or gonedo jappo corpos not do the HEY THANKS FOR WORKING WITH US shit other corpos do in entertainment?
I would forgive Yoshi P for a lot of shit if he went back to the old system of bosses changing patterns and using attacks based on their HP levels instead of the current system of everything being dictated by the timestamp.
>>737706157Yeah. Button bloat, rigid rotations with no breathing room, and 2 minute meta.Now you're getting more positionals, more job ID, faster GCDs, more procs based on other skills, on-hits.You're getting less buttons to press at the expense of faster and more involved combat.I'm not saying to approach it with anything besides extreme caution and skepticism though.
>>737706426Hit within the first 4 seconds of your defensive cd.
>nips crushing Blizzard's MMO>chinks crushing Blizzard's Hero-shooterWhat's next? Koreans making a better diablo clone?
>>737706460I wouldn't say to expect anything, but they did acknowledge what the 2m meta did to both job design and boss design
>>737706429>yshotla finally loves us and kisses us>its her old hag shard reflectionKIIIIINNNNNNNNOOOOOO FUUUCKEN MONKEY PAW DAMN FUJO
I hope Evercold has a savage fight as based as The Tyrant.
>>737706039>>737706198>>737706260okay nice. I still remember MNK's rotation even with my eyes closed right now so I can probably jump in with it. I don't know how I feel trying to get back into tanking immediately after not playing a MMO in such a long time after all.
>>737706451No, Jap corpos stick you in a blank room for 12 hours a day with nothing to do until you quit in shame
>>737706490>Koreans making a better diablo clone?people still play diablow?
>>737700962Looks good>NOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO PUSH CONFETIOR 5 TIMESAND ATTONMENT 3 TIMES
So what exactly is the new battle system they're talking about? Is it still like WoW?
>>737706127its a date then. wear something pretty
>>737706257The old system is gonna matter way less just because of raid buffs getting deleted, Reborn mode isn't keeping them. No raid buffs also means job design shifts pretty radically and you don't have to do stupid shit like give Red Mage ranged sword combos to keep them performant in buff windows
>>737706563It's still tab target.
>>737706563https://www.youtube.com/live/_aCGzxWczCM?si=Gea-DzIsD3C0u91a&t=22839
And they STILLSTILL Can't fix the fucking netcode
>>737705441The casual content loop will be the same shit it always was. They're even talking about simplifying and shortening 24 mans(they were already braindead and short.).This combined with braindead jobs is going to bore people to death. The only thing that might change is Savage and above, but these types don't even engage with the game like that. So they will be bored and bitch just like with Dawntrail. Same hype, same flop.
So what the fuck is Reborn mode going to be now that raid damage buffs are gone?
>>737705871I actually think it looks a lot like the UI from FFXVI, which considering that both are CBU3 and Yoshi-P games shouldn't really be surprising. Not so much that it looks directly ripped from it, but that it has almost the exact same design language, even down to the circle with a slash going through it. Super common in FFXVI's UI.
>>737706506Me on the bottom
>>737705673Betting 90% of WARs will just play Reborn mode. No one plays WAR to be a beefy healer.
>>737706596>teamspeakbrehs we're so fucking old
>>737706426Anon all of the 30s tank ogcds besides tbn lmoa give like 4 buffs that decay over time, it's just registering the hit before they fall off
>>737706717Something to appease a portion of playerbase which will eventually switch anyways.
>>737706464>faster and more involved combat>on servers with 3 tick rateXIV generated so much money and it was wasted on mobile games that quickly EoS'd or DEI slop instead of fucking fixing the game, i want to love this game again but the japanese are morons
Switch 2 release btw
>>737706464Every job is VPR and SMN. Stop lying to him wowbuck.
>>737706625So it's just adding macros and pruning abilities then?
>>737706717It's going to play like the game plays right now if you form a party with Samurai, Black Mage, Machinist, and Viper.In other words the most fun you can have with the game because you just fucking fight and don't have to worry about buff alignment shit.
>>737706521I would love a job like that.
This is basically button consolidation and a job rework and no 2 minutes.This is really just up to job design. Were the PVP jobs actually that fun to use? Dragon looks good, Whm looks meh, not sure I understand why people are liking the bard change, it's pretty much summoner. Hopefully this means that summoner will actually get a class rework and be fun again?
>>737706710>saaar no stop being interested in things staap it bluddy banchod nothing ever changes bluddy basterd bitch
>>737706778anon there's no fixing that ever. the only way that gets fixed is in an new MMO altogether
>>737705673Why would the healing be the class fantasy thoIf anything they should give that shit back to drk and let war just be the unga spam job
>>737705673They already get benched in raid prog because their healing is underwhelming compared to real mitigation on PLD/DRK/GNB.
>>737706892>trannyzosoof.
>>737706814nigga watch the drg part whm and pld got fucked because they want them to be simple as fuck
>>737706814https://youtu.be/JW77HXBgk-kis this just DRG gameplay with macros and ability pruning?
>>737706385
>>737706778>>737706869Looks like they're FINALLY giving FF14 slightly more budget so maybe it'll get fixed eventually
>>737706814See >>737701534
>>737706429She was the story supervisor for Dawntrail, we don't know what she's doing for Evercold
>>737706853Yes the PVP jobs are/were incredibly fun. You have less buttons than before but each button is meaningful, powerful, and exciting to use. Not to mention it made every single job play differently, each one has it's own niche, and it's given them the "class fantasy and identity" that people cry so much about.I don't necessarily like the 1 button combo but I can say the guy knows what he's doing. People just need to not be freaked out by seeing less buttons on their bar.
>>737706853PvP jobs were pretty good for the most part. Personally, I would prefer them to have more buttons and I'm not crazy about one button combos, but it makes a lot more sense on PvP. The main thing is that the PvP jobs are really flavorful and soulful because they have iconic abilities for the class that fit it's ideal perfectly and they aren't rigid in their design. Like Dragoon having its Sky High dive that they ported to Evolved, Dark Knight having offensive Superbolide and hurting itself to do damage, and Gunbreaker having Draw and Junction to give itself different role abilities. If they capture some of that soul and put it into PvE with less restricted role and job design it could be fantastic. So we'll have to see.
>>737701534>GCD combo is just filler, as it was always meant to beI'm basedfacing out
>>737706429>>737706494Just a reminder that she's a fujodev so I wouldn't expect any new waifus to matter much and/or survive long. We'll probably get a shitton of G'raha though
>>737706563TLDR:>They're adapting PvP concepts into PvE. Basic combos moving to one button instead of three, some actions changing based on if you're targeting a party member or enemy>More job-specific gimmicks in the work, reeling back from the homogenization. BRD has a free-form dodge shot, DRG has a jump that gives 90% mit, WHM gains big fuckyou damage attacks for healing, PLD has parries and shit.>Faster combat, more positionals (DRG has a left and right for instance)>They're doing away with the 2minute meta, and this SEEMS to be including the way bosses themselves will work moving forward as well.>All current jobs can still use the old (Reborn) gameplay mode, at least during 8.0.
>>737706853>not sure I understand why people are liking the bard changelike whm, it's completely dependent on what the battle design looks like. When they announced the 2M lynching, they specifically mentioned that they hated how it changed job design. In the BRD=SMN example, the big change is that your "summons" now also give you partywide buffs that aren't damage.Assuming that battle content changes for the better, in this case you aren't just rotating your summons to best align with the 2M window. you're rotating your summons specifically around what the boss is doing. The decision making is at the time you are playing the game, not 4 weeks prior in an excel spreadsheet.
>>737700534Is this UI change just a thing for the weekly shit, or is it gamewide? Like will they also change things like vendor UI, Glamour Dresser UI, and crafting UI?
I don't understand why it's so bad to have 1 2 3 skills all on one button. It's literally the same thing but you don't have to reach as far on your keyboard for other stuff since there's more space
>>737707071I will take less waifus if it means the games story stops being putrid dog shit
>>737706237>it's not happening>ok it is happening and it's not a big deal chud
i tried to go to jollibee for the ffxiv meal today and it was so fucking packed with filipinos they were spilling out from the entrance onto the pavementhopefully tomorrow morning wont have the same result
>>737707158>gets told the solution to the 'problem'>Ignores it.
>>737700612>>737700534Are you always this negative and ungrateful?
>>737707124It's not bad and paladin literally has that with their finisher.
>>737700962Sorry Raidtroons, Golbez has saved us
>>737707154Doesn't matter much since we already don't get any waifus unless you count Y'shtola's five minutes of screentime every 5 patches.
>>737706729It definitely looks more like XVI's UI than XIII's.
>>737707124People think it's a skill to not 'accidentally' drop a combo because of a mispress and having them be consolidated threatens their gamer cred (even though they could still choose to do it 'the hard way' if they really wanted to)
>>737707071Yeah, her fujo sensibilities were really annoying in EW. The pretty boy adventures in Elpis was pure trash.
>>737707124Rhythm, personally doing 1-2-3 helps me keep track of where I am not just in my rotation but where I am in the fight. I have the key press itself to let me know where I am and also the sound from the ability going off, it's almost like a metronome. In a smaller way it helps min max, if I want certain abilities to go off at certain times I can alter my rotation or delay skills so they hit at certain times, with a 1 button combo that's going to be a lot harder. BUT maybe they are going to introduce more interesting ways to min max, perhaps the basic combo is now less important than the rest of your buttons.Also? fun, I don't want to feel like I'm playing WoW in 2012 again where I mash a single button 99% of the time.
>>737705292>parsetranning maldingEvercold keeps getting better.
Wonder what he's doing? Fucking Allie?
>>737707349I mean wouldnt you?
>>737707291you could put the button on your hotbar 3 times
https://x.com/SOKENsquareenix/status/2048460634627674203
>>737707347You should post that certain Yoshi-P interview that made troons breathing copium.
>>737707245It was hades who first broke the cycle and saved us. Remember him for he once lived.
Reminder that they literally made a feature that allows you to unlink chained skills in the hotbar if you realyl want to and there's no reason to believe it won't work with Evolved mode as well.
Looks fucking kino, like XII/XIII era UI. Bet you little rats weren't even playing games back then, so I get it, they'll put gray lines on black background nu-"artstyle" back in when you cry enough.
Stop focusing on the condensing of 1-2-3s into one button and look at the actual gameplay changes you fucking tards
>>737706853I wouldn't actually say Evolved DRG is just PvP DRG.Other than consolidating the combos into one button and adding Sky High/Sky Shatter (which is indeed the Dragoon's PvP Limit Break currently, and it's great)Differences between Evolved DRG right now and PvP DRG>PvP DRG has no positionals at all. Evolved has three specific ones (so not just flank, but left and right) that lead to Geirskogul, Nastrond and Wyrmwind Thrust respectively>PvP DRG has Geirskogul as its own buttonFor Evolved, Geirskogul is just a followup attack to the positional. In PvP, it's its own button that puts you in Life of the Dragon where you do 25% more damage but take 15% more damage as well. Life of the Dragon then activates Starcross as well, and then you have Nastrond, which you use as a damaging button as well as a way to exit Life of the Dragon.>Different followupsPvP Dragoon has High Jump. Right now, Evolve doesn't even have that. Instead it has Vengeful Jump, which adds a Blood of the Dragon stack and also acts as a True North for your new positionals. PvP Dragoon High Jump turns your combo button into Heavens' Thrust>PvP DRG has Horrid Roar, Evolved does notHorrid Roar is totally absent for Evolved. It's an AoE attack that reduces damage targets deal to the Dragoon by 50%.>Wyrmwind ThrustIn PvP, Wyrmwind Thrust is a followup to Elusive Jump. In Evolved, Wyrmwind Thrust is unlocked when you perform the right attack for the rear positional.
>>737707124There's no difference, only the highest of tranny raiders want to pretend There's an engaging skill gap between 111 and 123. The fact that Evolved jobs get their big buttons more frequently is great also well.t.playing since 2017 with multiple week 1 savage clears
I'm confused, so then this screen is gone when 8.0 hits?
>official forums hate devolved>youtube comments hate devolved>xitter hates devolved>even fucking reddit is rapidly turning around on devolved>4kek apparently LOVES devolved and you'll get the same 20 replies in the same posting style using the same buzzwords dogpiling you if you disagree
>>737707537if i did that then you wouldn't angrily reply to me
>>737707124nooooooo my greatest accomplishment is hitting the basic bitch gcd combo the right way for 5 minutes
>>737707410Yeah, I might do that, I'm not going to lose my mind over it either way and I would like to try it before I form an opinion.
>>737707439>Azem went off from the zodiark plan and the hydaelyn plan to go do his own thing>Makes the Key for his plan and bets on needing a device to connect the shards together thats not crashing them to the source>Eventually Emet finds it>Realizes his plan of uniting >"Wait this retard forgot he needs a spell to have fate be pulled towards you">Makes the azem crystal so the plan actually worksBased. He truly has our back
>>737707598>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GIT GUD AT INDIVIDUAL JOBS BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE QUIRKS TO MASTER>I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REACT DYNAMICALLY TO WHAT THE BOSS IS DOING>I DON'T WANT MY PERFORMANCE TO BE DETERMINED BY MY OWN SKILL INSTEAD OF AUTOMATED PARTY BUFFS>I DON'T WANT TO PLAY FINAL FANTASY>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737707414the time stop is such a good crowd work moment
All this shitposting is making me question if i should continue the game, don’t want to wasted hours on a sinking ship...
>>737707006She's in a senior position now, so it's clear she took a step back during Dawntrail. Evercold looks heavily influenced by her already. C-suite likely told her to get back in the game. Seeing Alphinaud, Estinien and WoL makes it so obvious.
>>737700962Objectively a good thing. Having to dedicate 8 different keystrokes for what is functionally the same action is fucking insane. Every button you map out should do something uniquely different, and if it doesn't then it's just button bloat.
>>737706914whm and pld have been simple since fucking HW lol that's never going to change, they want there to be jobs for paraplegics to play
not giving them any money until they confirm a reworked breast slider system, butt sliders, thigh sliders, hip slider, waist slider, and a skindentation toggle with a slider
>>737706182You forgot one, Kate was fired.
>>737707598and then you woke up little FUDtroon
>>737707006>>737707691Koji said in his panel that Ishikawa was the scenario writer requesting lyrics for the Evercold trailer.
>>737707575No, that's still going to be there, the fancy weeklies for gear screen is replacing tomestones entirely so you can see what you have left to unlock.
>>737707575wait for berlin onegai
>>737707691>Kate and Hiroi fucked up so bad that Koji and Ishikawa had to be dragged back against their willlmao
>>737706892
How long until she comes back and ruins everyone's day
>>737707759so, will we get an achingly beautiful man with his pet little girl again?
>>737707071Gra'ha is guaranteed to be more of a backseat role, since they'll need his expertise in stabilizing travel through the reflections. He's likely going to be our "Y'shtola" aka who we go to for magic and time related shit.
>>737707575Maybe, but I don't think so, because that screen has 4 tabs covering way more than they showed on the mock up. My guess is that it's a new screen, a sub menu from that screen like the PVP battle pass that combines shit like the challenge log into one menu.
One thing I would change about Evolved Paladin is adding maybe one extra oGCD like Circle of Scorn to do in-between Confiteor Burst Windows.BUT it's not that big of a deal because you just do Imperator + Confiteor burst way faster in Evolved, 40 seconds versus 60 seconds.
>>737707819Why are you so gay?
>>737700962every other mmo i have played with combo skills usually replaces the first skill with the next one until the combo resets, idk why they made combos different keys
>>737707691>my aibo and my boiwifeKINOOOOOOOOOO. bench alisaie and its a good msq.
>>737707827well with alphinaud and estinien we'd need a tank. so unless estinien stops being a glass cannon we'll need Hoary Boulder showing up with his flail and greatshield
>>737707759She also requested Smile though
>>737707810does hiroi care or recognize this or his theatre leader arrogance blame the audience for not understanding his vision like all hacks?
>>737703016She is Koji's oishi
>>737707879The real version of the song is actually kinda decent, unfortunately they didn't use that version ingame.
How sad is the sad girl Halmarut backstory gonna be
>>737707231He doesn't even play XIV, he just hates either XIV or Yoshida and is obsessed with shitposting about them. There are a small handful of people like that on this website. They don't play anything related to Yoshida and in most cases never have, yet they are absolutely hate obsessed with him. It's typically WoW players who are like this, but I don't think every one of them is a WoW player.
>>737707879It's almost like her job as a larger scenario director means she's gonna be the one setting the mood for each expac and "she requested Smile" isn't really damningThis is the danger of holding up Ishikawa for Kinobringers kino kino based Emet-Selch kino -- niggas gotta come to grips with "she's responsible for Dawntrail" and they can't play favorites with what Ishikawa is and isn't credited for
>>737707818Xe's gone bro, they made painstaking efforts during the fanfest to mention Yawnfail as little as possible
>>737707879I stand by that Smile is a good song but it shouldnt have played that first time which then hampered the 2nd time.
>>737707972I really do doubt that WoW players are behind shitposting because aren't they too busy hating WoW and Blizzard to care about other games
>Dawntroons still trying to defend the expansion that almost destroyed the gameLet it go bro, let it go.
I bet animation skins will also work for getting old versions of skills back. For MNK example, I've often heard people complain about their animations after I think lvl 90? This way, you could get that look back.
Healer mains, how do you feel about Evo-White mage?
For the challenge log would you rather it be>complete fates>complete alliance raidor >complete fate in shadowbringers zone>complete void ark alliance raid
lmao
>>737708062Who's defending it?
>>737708094Part of me says top.Another part of me says my fucking god I don't want that to just default to everyone picking CT for the Alliance Raid so bottom.
>>737708094The bottom so I don't see CT every day.
>>737708038In a moment of divine comedy they were hit by a REALLY bad patch about a week ago so they are not in a good mood, all this hope isn't helping their condition.
>>737708062
new player here, i want to cuddle with mother miounne
>>737708038>I really do doubt that WoW players are behind shitpostingThen you're retarded. Every single time an XIV thread turns into a WoW shitposting thread instead, you have one or 2 anons ardently defending it and that's always when the schizo starts dumping his folder (foldy dumpy) of every "negative" XIV image that he's been spamming for years. >because aren't they too busy hating WoW and Blizzard to care about other gamesNo. They don't hate or shitpost Blizzard anymore. When something gay and tranny happens in WoW, they just roll over and accept it while taking their anger out on XIV. They realize there is no use being upset at their own game anymore, but WoW is the very core of their identity now, so they can't just unsub.
>>737708062playing right now, enjoying it :)stoked for 8.0 too. and 7.5.
>>737708212Based
>neversoldKEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKK
>>737708212that is normal
>>737707813Jokes aside if zenos actually fucking pops up, riding the lightning, it's going to be the most hilarious and worthwhile event in the expac. NA trannies hate zenos, he's literally hitler to them, but nips love zenos whether its for how absurd the character is or fanboy tier. speaks volumes when you remember that people hated lyse in stormblood, but zenos intruiged literally everyone and boom he comes back to life with this retarded storyline of bodyjacking and resonance (that nobody else uses outside of fordola who went to jail).
There's literally only one question to ask regarding action skins: how does it work if one animation is longer or shorter to complete than any other? Will your DPS suffer if you like a longer animation, etc.
>>737707960the body of the person backstory she stole will be sad. Halibuts just mad her garden world is frozen. she has marlboros to plant
>>737708087i think i might prefer afflatus solace and rapture to be separate keys than needing afflatus to be a separate button ala eukrasiaalso think Regen is gone?
>>737708174>>737708221kekaroo even.
>>737708295>how does it work if one animation is longer or shorter to complete than any other? Will your DPS suffer if you like a longer animation, etc.they'll probably all be sped up to fit the speed of the skill ones that don't work/look out of place sped up may be omitted
>>737708286tranny cope.
>>737707819>achingly beautiful manMe>pet little girlMy daughterwifeWe're so back.
>>737707874I mean true, but it'd be better if they just added a new character to the party. I mean wasn't Wuk Lamat the tank for DT?
>>737708295They'll make sure it's synced, but that does bring up the question of some attacks dealing damage early and some dealing it later in the animation, so that has to be thought about as well. Personally I'd like to see SFX instead of full animation swaps, but if we get both that's cool.
>>737708295Pretty sure they said they are upping the potency of attacks so don’t think it will matter
>>737708087I really hope they keep Exaltation on AST, keep Earthly but reduce the size to how it was in SB, and let us be constant card slingers again. Everything else is whatever.
>>737708184It do be like that. That is, Dawntrail being so bad made FF14 devs and YoshiP stop taking it for granted that the game will be around, and actually had to do some work.
>>737708212We all did.
How did we end up losing to osrs and wow???
>>737707827>G'raha takes the role of our go-to for magic and time shit>Krile takes the role of our scholarly magical girl who may have plot relevance with the Milala shitY'shtola probably gonna have nothing to do again
>Mfw Evolved DRK gets rid of Salted Earth
As an MSQ shitter, I'm really glad they're getting rid of 1 2 3 because I was always the one holding back my buds in raids because I was trying to keep uptime while not dying. Once I realized I'd have to put significant time into training dummies just to not be a shitter, I lost the desire to better. The Dawntrail hit and even the MSQ started sucking lmao
>>737707879>She also requested Smile thoughShe's still not the final decision maker, she requested Smile and the a higher up changed it and how it was used. There's always layers to this shit.
>>737708229>He likes Wuk Lamat
>>737708436>Evolved DRK gets Dark Arts back
>>737708436Salted is soulful, thry shouldn't do that. Since DRK are off tank, they should be able to target where it goes again.
>>737708370lmao love it when trannies prove me right. seethe, cope and dilate.
>>737708212
Is viper good
>>737708361>>737708386>>737708387I wonder if they'll let us use animations from skills that have since been pruned from the game? They better... I hope someone suggests/asks that at the next fanfest so it gets addressed or planned
>>737708479>talks about something that was never saidMedication.
>>737708105I can't believe Wuk Lamat is fucking dead
BLU should become a real job
>>737708295As it is right now, I think the damage is always done at the start of the animation regardless and the pop up being delayed is merely cosmetic, so it wouldn't actually matter.
If yawntrail was as good and successful as trannies claim it is they definitely would not be changing as much as they are in 8.0
>>737708295because that's not how damage is calculated. The animation is just fluff, as soon as press the button the damage is done, no matter how long the animation is. This is why you can go on PVP then you can literally drop dead and then watch how your corpse gets fucked by three hundred different spells and a sudden ninja jumping on your head
>>737708518delusional secondary with shitty takes>HURR DUR I WINnot a good day for incel chuds.
>>737708563Nobody is claiming dawntrail is good and successful.
Meet your new 8.0 shield MT.
>>737708559DRG can use Diamondback now so there's no reason not to.
>>737708446I don't think she was second guessed on Smile at all unless you're saying about when and where it was used, and even then I'd guess she or Hiroi wanted it used at the specific spots it's used at.
You have 10 seconds to explain why you think the new direction with battle content and job design is bad without sounding autistic and trans.
>>737708542>I wonder if they'll let us use animations from skills that have since been pruned from the game?The one example we were shown looks to be Ring of Thorns (AoE that they removed in SB)
>>737708542That's basically already confirmed since the announcement image for it has a DRG using Ring of Thorns.
>>737708554>>737708062
>>737708286Why does Zenos trigger trannies so much anyway?
>>737708570Yeah but if would still effect how soon your next animation and damage could "start" if the previous skill was really long to play out right?
>>737707124>krilefaggot
>>737706717Emergency button if the changes have a SWG tier reception.
>>737707819We've seen a malera and we know about dark helmet already, so yes.
>>737708648Argument status?
>>737708010hiroi was in charge of the dumpster fire that is DT though
>>737708542They teased the feature with a picture of a Dragoon doing the Circle of Thorns pole dance, so using pruned skills is assuredly the entire point of it.
>>737708608yidder and r*ddit sure are/were, I could not even call wuk lamat a badly written character without being jumped by troonsgendered people
>>737708554Reading is very hard for you.
>>737708631>>737708636>>737708709Oh good, I had no idea, never played DRG.
>>737700962
>>737708559I'm actually surprised they aren't using the Evolved toggle thing for that very purpose.Seems like it would solve most of the problems with having a version of BLU/BST that can be played in normal content.
>>737706717It's the jail for balancetroons who can't accept change.
>>737708708That doesn't matter, Ishikawa is above him as the larger director and signs off on his work. It's not possible to "lay blame" purely on Hiroi without just pretending Ishikawa doesn't work there and isn't seeing what he's doing
>>737708708and there are a lot of people who gave it okay
>>737708212I don't remember posting this
>>737707598If I told you there was a campaign leaning on almost botted faggotry for the past 2 days you would not be surprised in the slightest
>>737706717They are keeping Reborn so that people aren't overwhelmed, you won't want to use it in non-casual content but it's going to be there so people can ease themselves in to the process of learning 21 new jobs.
>>737708712>I could not even call wuk lamat a badly written character without being jumped by troonsgendered peoplethat's funny because if you said anything other than wuk lamat bad character on even reddit (and then even the most likely to be positive portion of the reddit fanbase) you'd get downvoted
Personally, I'll accept a MSQ that is just okay. As long as it's not as boring as DT, I'll be fine with it.
>>737708628Because I don't trust the incompetents at Square Enix to do it well.
>>737708603>calls people tranny>gets exposed as one>starts crying incel
>>737700962I want to see how they do BLM with the evolved form. Will it make most of its spells instant like WHM?
>>737708712It's funny because every region hated her, JP hated Wuk more than NA, but everyone who defends her always falls back on muh tranny VA.
>>737706717It's a stepping stone to wean people off. They already striaght up said that Evolved mode does slightly more DPS, which means that's the only way to play the game. They're only keeping Reborn mode around so that people don't bitch about the change and are able to slowly come around to it on their own throughout the Evercold expansion. The new jobs wont even have Reborn mode, and I expect it to be phased out entirely by 9.0.
Yep XIV wonStill the biggest and the bestest MMO on the market
>>737708742That's what occurred to me immediately and it's the hopium I am huffing. I'd really like them to get an alt, unlimited version.
>>737708781I'm hoping the msq is as long as it needs to be. DT was as long as EW and we suffered massively for it.
>>737708712it's because wuk is voiced by a tranny(in english), they're doing it for ideological purposes entirely and because dawntrail is hated by normal people and "chuds" so it's contrarian to like it, even if deep down they know it's a steaming pile of shit that cost several people their jobs
>>737708775Same here, you still get dogpiled by fifty retards if you don't virtue signal about hating the character. Easiest bait on the planet
I noticed there's a pattern with Evolution Jobs and that each have a 'Weird Button' that is unique to the mode.>it's something your job always should have been able to do but couldn't>it does two things at once>it looks sick as hellPaladin counter, Sky High, Bard's dodge shots, White Mage's Sanctuary are the examples of this.
DONT TAKE MY PADDED PINK PARSE AWAY FROM MEREBORN STANCE!!!
>>737708734https://youtu.be/gz1627qEuKkfor the record
>>737708773Depending on how certain jobs, particularly "off tanks," are changed I think you'll see a lot of people being stubborn about it. I can already imagine a lot of Evolved vs. Reborn fighting.
>>737708829If they ever get uplifted it'll be at a point where the devs are comfortable with the thought of just instantly wiping a dungeon mob or midboss the way BLU can, or with the thought of jobs having personal progression systems that aren't related to MSQ and leveling upNot impossible since they've basically converted to PvP style combat for the freedom of combat and raid design, but I still don't think it's likely and it would invalidate the entire point of limited jobs having that personal progression
>>737708742>>737708829At some point. they'll probably shelf Reborn mode because they CBA to support it when everyone moves over to Evolve.At that time, they'll have this entire framework for being able to switch a job mode remaining. Maybe then we can see it be reused for limited jobs.
>>737708628I couldn't give a shit. One way or the other I truly could not give a shit.This game has bad combat, it always has and always will.The one thing that it had going for it was it's World building and story-telling until Endwalker post patch and Dawntrail.This game will not be successful based on the new combat system if it's fun or not.It will sink or swim based on how good the MSQ of Evercold expansion is.
I need to see Evolved BLM
>>737706717Giving themselves an emergency "undo" button in case the rework doesn't pan out.
>>737708810Probably ice instant, fire hard cast, thunder gone, Leylines gone maybe, Manaward might be replaced by the PVP version that also deals AOE. That said, I rather doubt the PVP LB makes it.
>>737708712Those same people love Wuk and hated Lyse, tells you all you need to know really
>>737708863I still have it
>>737708786>responsible for some of the best content and job designs>responsible for the pvp overhaulI trust
evercold reveal made me buy midnight
>>737708628server tick gives me zero hope it'll be as good as it can be
>>737708664considering how much they tried to support wuk lamat, probs because he couldn't be aligned with their worldviews.
>>737708665No, not really, the animation that is playing does not prevent anything else from playing or starting or any damage calculation, it's why in the the "opener" rotations the characters look like a spactic mess, the ogdcs break long animationslook at thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANCSi_4td_Myou can easily see animations getting cut endlessly, This is not monster hunter or dark souls. The damage is always correlated to the button press, or the server tick, never the animations.
>>737708810You're going to be able to set multiple laylines ahead of time and teleport between them like Shantotto.
I've been unsubbed and checked out of these threads for a while, I'd forgotten how much WoWfag falseflagging goes on in here
>>737708957This guy has a better track record than Ishikawa and he's been working there the same amount of time. He's the real MVP as far as I'm concerned.
>>737708940>I couldn't give a shit.Then I wasn't talking to you, dumb ass nigga.
>>737708981YepNetcode is still ass so it's pointless
>Macchi is so excited he broke characterEvolved mode confirmed kino, balancetroons confirmed raped.
>>737700962more complicated than current WAR lmao
>>737708953:')
>go from black shroud to la noscea>get 5 to 6 shout spamming about dj, bars or some shitsyup, im going back to my woods, fuck this place
I think the most important thing about Evolved is something that never really happened before in XIV other than maybe the very very early days of ARR:Being free from spreadsheet hell and single rotations per job that we've had for YEARS. You actually can play Evolved jobs at a decent level just by USING YOUR FUCKING BRAIN instead of following patterns.
>>737709063I'm telling you that you and your opinion are irrelevant.
>>737709159Does sex happen in those?
>>737709101>balmug>white mage>not max level>catgirl>joined 2021Fuck off retarded newfaggots, post your fucking tattoo right now.
>>737709101what "good faith criticism", macchi?all you did was neurotically screech all the time because some /vg/fags bullied you for sucking shit at the game
>>737708664>Why does Zenos trigger trannies so much anyway?Zenos doesn't work for this at all, trannies fucking love Zenos for the same reasons you do, he's a flounder eyed autist with battle lust and an inability to comprehend empathy
>>737709167little bro... you think there won't be an optimal rotation with evolved mode? are you smoking something?
>>737709213only hot dragon&elf sex
>>737707972>>737708038One minute apart. Will you put the tripcode on?
>>737709060Tamaki and Ishikawa do two separate things, their MVPs in their own realm.
who /evolved/ here?
>>737709101Why are you posting this like it’s someone random anons should know?
>>737709101>Join Date:>Aug 2021
>>737709227Good faith criticism is whatever agrees with himYou'd be impressed how many people this could apply to
>>737709101He's just a massive faggot that wasn't giving any fair or good-faith criticism. For years he's been trolling people who did do that on the forums, he's exactly the problem he's describing here.He's so stupid he doesn't even know that he is who he's talking about.
>>737709275You can't post images that are 1 minute apart, schizo anon.
>balance guyy laments the loss of 2 min meta, button bloat, claims evolved is 'dumbing down the game' and there's no thinking involved>check comment history>defends use of xivcombo and auto rotation huh lol many such cases I guess
>>737709251Optimized Rotation != Solved rotation.There'll be better ways to play, there'll be strategies you can figure out on the order to do things more efficiently, but it's significantly more adaptable and fluid than the godawful mess that is the current system where one drift or fuckup permanently impacts your rDPS for the entire pull.
>>737709227>>737709323>t. the raped
>>737708863When people actually hung out in Idyllshire instead of the main cities take me back
>>737709247The empathy argument doesn't really work here. Zenos doesn't even pretend to have empathy, unlike trannies who have a fundamental misunderstanding of what that means.
Consult the chart
>>737709293When they first announced Evolve, I was kind of afraid it would just be a one button rotation mode catering to zoomies, and I'd begrudgingly stick with Reborn because at least it would be a familiar type of rote.After seeing what they did for my main job and it being almost exactly what I've yearned for, I've gone full Evolve support.
>>737709329Legendarily obsessed spammer and ban evader on /vg/ too, type of guy that spins up a bot-net to flame you if you own him too hard in a fake internet argument
>>737709170>you and your opinion are irrelevantSE doesn't seem to think so.I was expecting nothing from fanfest but now I'm optimistic because yoshida and the job guy said just about everything I wanted to hear.
>>737700962mitigation is for sissies clean it up healie
>>737709301Macchi is on the official list of XI/v/ boogeymen, newfag. Study your thread lore before posting again.
>>737709247zenos was getting called hitler by western players, trannies hate him. when he committed suicide they were extremely vocal about him staying dead.
>>737709369>When people actually hung out in IdyllshireWell, it was Heavensward.Ring of Thorns got removed in Stormblood.
>>737709370Ayo this nigga self inserts as Zenos
>>737709398Them actually acknowledging the boss standing there and letting you 2 minute him is surprising
I heard people say that Tyrant felt 'designed for Evolved mode'I didn't do Evolved Tyrant, what did they mean by that?
>>737709251Just looking at Bard, while you could get away with a static rotation, actually using your songs at the right time depending on boss mechanics seems like it would be much better.
>>737709301>acting like these threads aren't an extension of the generalKek
>>737709392He got mindbroken because he was doing mildly hard content and ate shit and then /vg/ started making fun of him.Never recovered. It's been probably at least 3-4 years since then?
>>737709432Zenos in Stormblood almost predates /v/'s obsession with transsexuals. Tranny this, tranny that.
>>737709349So a lot of these people just like the old version because they could cheat it with literal botting so it gave them a huge advantage? Guess I shouldn't be surprised, no one could actually enjoy the hot mess that we currently have unironically.
>>737709483The whole first half of the fight is almost nonstop movement, and his hardest mechanic starts right at a two minute window so he obviously doesn't give a fuck about it.
>>737709398truly a turn-based MMO
>>737709432Jesus christ people on 4chan really do use 'tranny' in the same way zoomers use 'Israeli'. Just a synonim of 'thing I don't like'.
>>>/vg/564878298Can you please stop
>>737709398SE does think so. They could lose every single Parsetroon like you and not miss a single quarterly target. Their audience who spend money on this game are the Casuals.
>>737709483>Tyrant designed for EvolvedHuh? No, it very much still feels mostly designed for the 2m meta.
>>737709251There may not be a set rotation that you do 99% of the time, it may be more reactionary or heavily fight dependant >>737709495
>>737709506For some reason almost all of /vg/ and /v/'s brain damaged and super clingy thread trolls are like thisSimilar story to "Pablo" getting laughed out of a music thread for posting Soken's work on FFXIV and saying he hated it, spends the next several years hateposting about Yoshida and begging for Soken's cancer to metastasize, begging for an arsonist to touch SE's offices after the KyoAni fire got popular, pretty sure it's him bitching constantly about the Umadori blog and others being cruelly taken down by Yoshida
>>737709349>balance guyy laments the loss of 2 min meta, button bloat, claims evolved is 'dumbing down the game' and there's no thinking involved>defends use of xivcombo and auto rotationpoetry
>>737709572t. /wowg/
>>737709572Can you? Why are you on /wowg/?
>>737709513>>737709570trannies have existed before /v/ even existed, it's like claiming gays didnt exist because they didn't reveal themselves
>>737709483>Hard mechanics requiring lots of movement and loss of uptime starting right as your 2min happensIt may not be designed for Evolved but it was definitely a gigantic fuck you.
>>737709398Square couldn't even figure out a proper NIN opener I don't trust this company for shit
>>737709101>>737709329>>737709392The QRD on Macchi, for the uninitiated:>is an annoying avatarfag with an ugly pink pastel character>finds a Discord clique somehow anyway>is annoying, but people tolerate him in an endearing way>someone stupidly posts an image of their newborn child>Macchi says that they want to fuck the newborn child>almost assuredly as a joke, but that's weird as fuck>he gets ostracized and laughed out, thread cred completely destroyed>...except he stays>he begins his Joker arc>he begins his scathing sarcastic "we like this" type shit>he can't do anything sincerely, it's all ironic>fast forward, he joins an /xivg/ group for a new Savage>they spend an entire day trying to clear the first encounter>Macchi is shitting himself and vagueposting in the thread>word of this /xivg/ party not even clearing the first easy fight hits the thread>laughter abound>someone posts logs>it is revealed that Macchi is so fucking bad at the game that people legitimately cannot tell whether he was intentionally trolling and preventing progress or is just that retarded>thread notices>this seems to be the final straw for Macchi and he is Jokermaxxing now>literally devoted years of his life to sarcastically saying "we like this" and making modbeast graphics>still going today
hope they keep the 90% damage reduction for dragoon's jumpany time we get job reworks I immediately want to try and solo deep dungeons with them to see if its easier to clear
>>737709630>"Pablo" getting laughed out of a music thread for posting Soken's work on FFXIV and saying he hated it, spends the next several years hateposting about Yoshida and begging for Soken's cancer to metastasize, begging for an arsonist to touch SE's offices after the KyoAni fire got popular,what the fuck
Drk bros, our opinion?
>>737709573>Parsetroon like youI think you may have mixed up who you think you're talking to because I think the death of the 2min meta, and moving battle content away from rote memorization is a good thing.
Show me how YOU Xiv it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We like this!
>>737709349Anyone and everyone who has looked at the Balance discord knows those guys are full of shit, they're constant liars and are the worst offenders when it comes to using mods/ tools.
>>737709671>still going todayNope, evolved mode brought him back to the light. The kino is undeniable.
>>737709694i'm not entirely sure it's not macchi doing all that in hindsight because the poster he's describing is obsessed with modbeasts as outlined in >>737709671, but pablo (or macchi under a much browner identity) is in fact a scourge on us
Overhaul idea for Reaper's Enshroud Mode:Instead of having a set timer for Enshroud, you get a stacking debuff that drains your health every server tick the more you're in Enshroud mode. You also get lifedrain but at a certain point withotu external healing you just end up outdamaging the lifesteal and croak if you don't deactivate it.
>>737708686i think thats probably it. Hermes and Meteion again, but this time the little girl is the one we deal with directly. probably another mentor relationship. "Please kill my mentor WoL, he turned into an Icewarden"
>>737709692>hope they keep the 90% damage reduction for dragoon's jumpso do I. It has a lot of potential for funny gameplay quirks, and I don't mean outright breaking the game, but just fun ways to deal with stuff.
you think theyll give us both reis and asukas plugsuits
>>737709772BUT WHAT IF YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH YOUR PARTY TO HANDLE MECHANICS IN JOB-SPECIFIC WAYS
>>737709661I don't trust SE as a whole, but I trust tamaki-kun
>>737709671I'm sure somewhere, someone has made a list of all the /xivg/ schizo thread celebs that have graced that general. It's probably a long list by now.
>>737709715we still look the coolest
>>737700962>parry>8 second windowthat's not a parry
>>737709807the plugsuits will be the first set of armor. they know what the playerbase wants, see the 2b outfit being available immediately for the nier crossover
>evolve mode being tauted as the second coming of bahamut>It's literally just button pruning, changing your abilities to conditions like being x yalms away and stuff>it's literally just console fag pandering top jej xivsters coping is something else
>>737709671All of this sounds like complete and utter mindbreak.How can you do this and still consider yourself of sound mind?Also>>someone stupidly posts an image of their newborn child>Macchi says that they want to fuck the newborn childI am not against dark humor and all that, but if you're not a complete maladjusted autist, you should realize that that isn't something you should say to any parent.He's lucky this was over the internet, because if it was IRL, he'd probably get his skull caved in.Fucking moron.
>>737709867*4 second window for optimally counter damage.By this game's standards 4 seconds is nothing.
>>737709821You will never get the job specific variety like Square is desperately trying to ape from Warcraft yet again that you desire
>>737709836>this is the guy that made PCT the strongest job in the history of the game for a yearEpic.
>>737709870You will still literally have your old mode. Why are you crying? They're not deleting the current system it'll still be there.
>>737709807They'll probably be coffer drops like the 2B set was.
>>737709912We have already seen Dragoon getting a real jump. You know, like they have in Final Fantasy.Noose time now, balancetroon.
>>737709772they'll nerf it the moment people start making dragoon take tankbusters can't have fun here
>>737709821That would be gre--I mean that would be AWFUL what the helly can we please go back to doing our music sheet play that doesn't engage with the mechanics of the fights at all
>>737709671this reads like a mindbreak NTR doujin but without any actual fucking
>>737709870
>>737709870He suck me good
>>737709919Balance is just numbers. PCT and VPR are fun.
I see a lot of similar posts and posting styles from doomers that seem to come from /wowg/Coincidence?
Threadly reminder Zenos was unexpectedly popular, got ported to dissidia after y'shtola, got tons of fanservice for 3 expacs straight despite being irrelevant to the plot, got tons of merch, and makes it into almost every external collab. Still gets mentioned to the point that YoshiPiss is sickened by him.
>>737709897You have to be genuinely retarded if you pop a mitigation skill and somehow manage to not get hit during that window as a main tank
>>737709756Sounds a bit like FFXI DRKs Souleater. You'd activate it and get a big attack boost for the duration, but every hit drains your health, and sometimes an overzealous DRK geared well could pop off a critical weaponskill and just bleed out 60% of their health in like 3 seconds. Always wanted that sort of system back in, give these healers some heart palpitations while they're glare spamming.
>>737709951>they'll nerf it the moment people start making dragoon take tankbustersI fear for that, but maybe there's some hope.
>>737709807They better have the Rebuild designs. If there was one thing good about the movies, it was the plug suits.
Tamaki made some of the best Jobs in the game's history while being chained down to the stupid fucking buff window meta still.I trust.
>please look forward to evolve mode in 8.0, like you looked forward to beastmaster in 7.0
>>737710009I mean Reapers are basically XI's Scythe Dark Knights.
>>737709671my sides
>>737709951What would be wrong with DRG taking tankbusters except that balancetroons would seethe?
>>737709807>get three new hairstyles>asuka, rei, shinji>rei and shinji just like 90% like already existing hairstyles
>>737709948This real jump has been in the game for probably over 2 years nowWhat is your favorite Final Fantasy game?
>>737709951>can't have fun herejob guy literally said they'd rather ere on the side of fun over balance. they removed the invulnerability from evolved drg's big dmg jump because it broke fights, but are testing it with 90% dmg reduction.
>>737709807i want the 01 armor,+ longinus spear, thank you
>>737710104>This real jump has been in the game for probably over 2 years nowNot in any real content.>What is your favorite Final Fantasy game?FFXI
>>737710079drg becomes required in every party
>>737709807I see this being a thing >>737710093, hairstyles and the like, but honestly aside from plugsuits I have no clue what the armor could even be.
>>737710003I'll never understand the female mind.
>>737709756>>737710009This sounds cool as hell, I've got a survey email from SE, I'll put this idea in there
>>737709807>>737710021Give me the honkai outfit
>>737710136Oh, FFXI? What part? Any fond memories?
>>737710104>This real jump has been in the game for probably over 2 years nowand a bunch of people have wanted it in PvE since it was introduced
>>737710027>like you looked forward to beastmaster in 7.0morons?
>>737710145Maybe some armor glam based on the EVA units? Or the bosses?
Zenos was always kino and only became more kino after his edgy nihilism arc and his head reflex tester position
I can't wait to leave DT forever
zenos trannies seething and coping that he'll come back like they thought there was going to be a garlemald expansion L.O. L giant tranny cope
>>737710143SAM gets ShirahadoriNIN gets UtsusemiMNK can double its HP and get a super counter if it takes enough damageNow what?>>737710171>Oh, FFXI? What part?Chains of Promathia as a whole is the best storyline in vidya, but I'm especially fond of the ToAU era.>Any fond memories?Plenty. You doing some faggy shit where if I'm not specific enough you're going to say I haven't played it? I can log in and laugh at you from my chatbox if you'd like.WoWnigger balancetroon, it's time to tie the noose. That's where you belong.
>>737710145angel and eva inspired armors
>>737710027>bst still not in 7.50>capped at lvl50 (irrevalancy)this is so fucking funny
I want Dark Arts back. Also debuffs and old melee brotherhood.
>>737709671I really dont understand why subhumans love spamming we like this or I look like this and say this
>>737710238I've seen more than a few people in EVA inspired outfits using the chaotic gear, I guess it could work.
>>737710314They're obsessed with Second Life style modders, regardless of how tiny a fraction of the playerbase they are.
>>737710136As a FFXI lover who has put more hours into the game than some posters here have been alive, PVP in XIV is real content and people have been asking for the PVP job flavor to be in PVE since the PVP rework happened.
>>737710319Oh, EVA unit armor in a similar style to Chaotic Fending gear would be raw.
>>737710079>game is build around scripted dance encounter boss design>one job has a way to essentially ignore needing to do parts of the encounterwow I wonder why they don't want to do that. spoiler: jobs don't fucking matter they are all the same shit
>>737710093>>737710145They have pretty distinct hair styles, there's also Marie and Kaworu.
>>737710421Kaworu's hair kind of already looks like hair we have currently.Shinji's looks kinda close to the ShB WoL hair. Rei ... maybe Y'shtola?
>>737710384>PVP in XIV is real content and people have been asking for the PVP job flavor to be in PVE since the PVP rework happened.I disagree about PVP being anything but a shitty minigame, but yeah that's why people are excited. DRG in PVP has felt like a real DRG since the update and now it's going to feel like a real DRG in the rest of the game.>>737710404Handling the mechanic in an unusual way isn't ignoring it. Especially not when it asks for party coordination to do it instead of just pressing Holmgang.>jobs don't fucking matter they are all the same shitNot anymore, balancetroon.
I beg for nothing of Rebuild of Evangelion.
>>737710456Video games are a collection of minigames, if you don't like PVP that is understandable and completely fine, but the PVP mode in XIV racks up large amounts of player counts and playtime.
>>737710456>make jobs even easier>this somehow means they now matterLMAO
I do wonder if Sky High will actually survive in its current form with the 90% dmg reduction.You need 3 Blood of the Dragons to use Sky High. You get Blood of the Dragons from Vengeful Jump. Vengeful Jump has a 20s CD.Ergo that means you can pop Sky High once every minute (well, you gotta do Stardiver first, so give or take). That means once every minute for ... 4 seconds, was it? You have a 90% damage reduction.I hope they let that stay, but I can see them lowering the % or having Sky High be less frequently usable than once a minute.I hope I'm wrong, though. But if I had to choose between a sharp decrease in damage reduction % or having Sky High usage be less frequent, then I'd pick the latter. The damage reduction % is what contributes to the fantasy and the idea of the Dragoon being up in the air.
>>737710314>we like thisMacchi being a scathing sarcastic caricature of "cultists" who defend XIV no matter what. These "cultists" don't see to actually exist (on 4chan) going by Dawntrail's failure, but he is always the first to say "we like this" when something negative happens. Though he does have a point with modbeasts; before the WoW exodus, /xivg/ used to make fun of "la creatura" characters, but after the WoW exodus suddenly the thread loves modbeasts and all the ebins turned into one. Has copy cats because "we like this" can be funny sometimes, and has sort of become a joke on its own>I look like this and say thisThe "my femra" or "I look like this" or "I say this" was, in my opinion, always sort of a tongue-in-cheek joke to get around moderation. Or at least I believe that's how it started. You wanted to post borderline porn that is unrelated to XIV? You could actually get moderated. But you post that same image and say "my femra is like this", well, now that's on topic.
Do anyone do chocobo races anymore?
so what will /shinji be?>looking down at your trembling hand with a sad look on your face>enthusiastic clapping
Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that we're getting an ohoho emote in 7.5.
>>737710595>jobs have simplified filler but job-specific mechanics that actually interact with the fight and require you reacting to the boss to get the most out of the abilitiesYep, it's kino. That's why you're crying.>>737710590Sure, but you wouldn't say Triple Triad in FFVIII is the "real game", right? >>737710660They just need to give other jobs equivalent cool shit.
>>737703559>>737702850holy fucking shit that was awful
>>737710079I remember way back when Ramuh EX was new there was a 2 day period or so where Summoner's discovered their Titan-egi can actually mitigate all the magic damage real well and work as a main tank if the SMN maneuvered it a little. Then it was quickly patched because we can't have unconventional methods to win like that, only the incredibly narrow corporate approved ways to play please, you must draw within the lines with the correct colored crayons. This game actually has a future if they're finally giving up that strict way to do things.
>>737710404This woild be so fucking kino it would be unreal.Daily reminder that Kain was the designated offtank in ff4
>>737710729absolutely mandatory. it will be the new /sweep
>>737710729But will they add voice to it?
>>737706356>zivlil bro what are you doing here
>>737710865I wonder.I doubt it, though.
Dawntrail's story sucked and so did OC.But the gameplay content besides that was good. Just unfortunately also good during the worst state of actual job gameplay.If we're getting DT-tier gameplay content with more action-oriented job gameplay, I'm all smiles.Revamped zones sounds good too, I hope they take a page from Bozja for fates.
>>737710757>job-specific mechanics >look inside>you can use a stronger attack skill if you take damage after casting a mitigation>this causes xiv troons to fellate themselves thinking they now have a "parry" class despite the fact it has a literal 4-8 second window for it to register>that's literally it that is the entire "job-specific mechanics" they added for PLDThis is genuinely just embarrassing dude
>>737710247Gotta add snowflakes to bottom one
>>737710921>Dawntrail's story sucked and so did OC.I liked 7.2, 7.3 (in spite of Wuk) and 7.4's story. I'll probably like 7.5 as well.But looking forward to EC a lot, though.
i keep seeing this white hair twins almost fucking everywhere, are they important or what?>doing main quest level 15 about pirates
>>737710959>that's literally it that is the entire "job-specific mechanics" they added for PLDYou're forgetting the Cover dash so they can leap into AoEs targeting other people to fish for more parries.
>>737711012Yes, the boy is your aibou and the girl is an annoying pig who services Garlean men.
Imagine a FF14 where there are like two or three outdoor zones per expansion and theyre both giant Bozjalikes that unlock raids with community effortI guess that would be too cool
>two shitposters went back to /wowg/kek
>>737710660It really depends how active new fights are
The teaser trailer really just takes me back to Shadowbringers in terms of vibe.
>>737711005Oh yeah, post-MSQ is starting to feel like one big apology for the gigantic wet fart that DT's story was. I still wouldn't say it's great, but it's something.A lot of what we're looking forward to is, at the very least, just that - SOMETHING. And a lot of it sounds pretty good.
>>737711012yes they become your wives
>>737711074Would be fine since I'm on Aether but wouldn't this suck for Dynamis and Light? (I don't know eu politics)
Can someone actually give me their most objective, scientific take on the quality of story from the dawntrail postpatches? I left early DT and heard they were marginal improvements at best.
>>737711012enjoy the ride. apart from the terrible level 30 MSQ of gathering random shit, low level is you working as a normal boukensha, it is extremely comfy.
>>737711120Entirely true. And what other jobs get in terms of quirks.
everyone's gonna get bored of evolved jobs really quickly
>>737711173>7.1Embarrassingly bad>7.2Inoffensive>7.3Inoffensive>7.4Bretty gud
>>737711012The Twins are the main characters of the game. (You) are the main character, but really it's the Twins. And every single expansion, in order to combat server congestion, the MSQ splits briefly at the beginning into an "Alisaie" route and an "Alphinaud" route, so at the beginning of every expansion you have to do some baby sitting because that's how they fought the issue of people not being able to get into the zone where the MSQ is because too many people were there (I believe this was originally referred to as "Raubahn Extreme" because people couldn't get into the map where he was since too many people were there)
>>737711012They're part of your main squad of characters. Especially Alphinaud, who is basically your retarded little brother who unretards himself after the ARR MSQ.
>>737710447It's Rei's hair that looks close to the ShB hair because it covers her face. Not Shinji's.....I think you're confusing these hairstyles. Shinji does not have an inverted triangle bang, his hair parts in the center. All of them, except Shinji, have hair that covers half or most of their face. Shinji has a ridiculously short style.
>>737711205yep, they literally turned all the job into nu-smn, everyone thought nu-smn was fun and awesome for the first week and every quickly got bored of it. evolved jobs will be the same.
>dodge rolling out of an AoE and then charging your big arrow shot upon landing
>>737711012blue twin is your best friend. the red bitch is just annoying and redundant being a cuntish girl power character with a stupid old british ladies smoker voice.
>xifag the entire time was the one samefaggot in these threadsImagine my fucking surprise
>>737711173How much of an improvent the postpatches are story-wise is going to depend almost entirely on how much Wuk actively sets you off.I didn't like her, but her very existence (and occasional part to play) didn't make me want to gnash my teeth either, so overall I really did enjoy 7.2 and 7.3 enough. 7.4 I would say is the first patch where you can say "even if you can't stand Wuk, you can appreciate it."
>>737708854Sanctuary is the classic FF Holy animation yeah? Or am I thinking of something else?
>>737700612but enough about wow
>>737711172who cares about euroidsregardless, even Eureka has a discord these days, so organizing a region wouldn't be difficult
>it was wowfags all along
>>737711307It is, yes.>>737711290Noose time now, balancetroon.
>>737711074bozja was dogshit you matsuno faggot.
>>737711148Doing ungodly things to that Alisaie.
>>737711012Made for bullying.
>>737709349That's basically every parsetranny. All they do is cheat and brag about it to each other on their discord.
>>737711334
>>737711205>>737711273If you're going to be making the exact same posts every day, you might at least want to start investing in new images.
>>737711228> The Twins are the main characters of the game. (You) are the main character, but really it's the Twins.Cute opinion. Did a YouTuber give that to you? (jessecox)
I guess im just old cuz this evolved shit looks like ass
>>737711228No, the problem was that Raubahn extreme was an instanced fight within the first 30 minutes of the expansion, so very quickly the maximum number of instances the server could handle was reached. They learned from this and pushed the first instanced fight further into the expansion in subsequent releases.
>>737711424Noose, balancetroon.
>>737711418Yoshida called Alphinaud the second protagonist in HW, newfag. Everyone has always known that he was the replacement for 1.0's Path Companions.
>>737711275That sounds heavenly.
>>737711345>bozja was dogshitThis is the same level of delusion that convinces you that you're a woman. You're not. Seek help.
>>737711418>Cute opinion. Did a YouTuber give that to you? (jessecox)I don't watch YouTubers. The only YouTuber I "watch" is I watch Xeno clips when YouTube recommends me them sometimes, which seems to have happened because I binged the Desolance drama.
>>737711275You are now manually aware that even the FF16 event fight with dodges lifted from that game was a beta-test for current job design
>>737711462He never said that Lmaoo. You’re making it up in your head.
It's looking grim for Neversold
>>737710160Women love men that can just tear them apart with their bare hands, but won't, because they have something that they want: womb. But the off-chance that he might disregard that and do her in anyway is what keeps it perpetually exciting.
>>737711012>>737711228The twins are the granchildren of Louisoix, the NPC who was the main guy you dealt with before ARR. He sacrificed himself to save everyone by transporting them away from Cartenau. That is why there is a big crater in Cartaneu. He is what averted an umbral calamity. The grandchildren live out his legacy of protecting the world and are your main quest givers.
What is supposed to attract me to this new expansion? Right now I feel like I should just continue playing Midnight.
>>737711440Kys schizo
>shitposting on page 10Genuine mental illness
>>737711551You will never be a woman. No more percentiles for you, buddy!
>>737711550Uhh
>>737711462>>737711418apart from Alphinaud having a lot of growth as a character and actually not being a gary stu, he's a support character that barely has any real presence in the story. And I would say that about every Scion, until Dawntranny, the focus was mainly the WoL
>>737706112Bet you I won't :)
>>737711173I played through all of DT with an open mind, Wuk is the sort of shonen protagonist that is a dime a dozen and boring because of it but I've never been a dubfag so the culture war shit missed me mostly. But I also can't really remember the specifics of each patch because it was very bland. We got the cum chalice macguffin that allows us to travel to other shards without all the Shadowbringers time dilation bullshit, and we have some new villains for the future. The scene that stands out most in my mind is when you have one of the very stoic antagonists on the ropes and he genuinely thinks he's going to die and his calm demeanor collapses before he narrowly escapes. It reminded me of better expansions so they still have the juice in there somewhere.
>>737711572What retarded delusion is it that makes you think this kills parsing lol
>game is on the edge of dying>still thinking about wow and wow players, who are in a much better spot/way happiersad
>>737711664The balancetroon quitNoose
>>737711694Broken bot?
>>737703559You can tell thats a fatty
>>737711664TOTALBALANCETROONNOOSENINGNOW
>obsessed wowtroons in xiv threadgrim
>>737711653I still don't understand how could they made Wuk Lamat after having Zero as its own cliche new OC that has the most boring and predictable "redemption" arc. It's like two back to back most generic arcs and protagonists. They really got complacent after Shadowbringers sucess
>>737711754This is one of the most vapid and asinine reasons for someone to shit their pants and pack their bags
>>737711609>he's a support character that barely has any real presence in the storyDo you play this game? Alphinaud is the only character who has ever said more things than Wuk Lamat(Alisaie has said about the same amount of things as Wuk Lamat, though Wuk probably won now that more patches have released)
>>737711802totalbalancetroon deathNOOSE NOW!
If they completely removed all buttons from combat and made it purely a mechanic-dodge event, I would celebrate it if it meant all balancetroons necked themselves
>>737711418Tell us, anon, is that was Jessecox says? How do you know that?
>>737711754>can leave fflogs in the hands of othersDo you even read what you post
>annoying schizos still itt>but this time they're on "our side"man
>>737711754Good
>>737711961>others(indian ad company that makes the site pay to view)
>>737711994you seriously need to get off the internet for a while
>>737711345>limsa idlers when confronted with gameplay focused content
>>737711857>Wuk lamat >1 expansion>3k words>alphinaud>in the game since ARR>5k wordsare you fucking retarded?
>you seriously need to get off the internet for a while
Bunnies
alisaie is stupid cunt and has no interesting arcs except coils where she manipulated and used you like alphinaud before she became some paragon and girl boss character.
>>737712085>are you fucking retarded?No, are you? What the fuck? You just said Alphinaud has no presence in the story. He has the MOST presence in the story. Retard. How are you this stupid? Do you play this game?
>>737712108we like this
>>737712146She really adds nothing to the story, the game desperately needs cute girl in the main party.
