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i don't understand why everyone's shitting on them. it's been so fucking boring in the world of vidya ever since they started their strategic restructuring a few years ago
please Square come back. give me some action rpg kino
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>>737705624
Because you cannot imagine the fall company underwent unless you were around for the SNES and PS1 era. Squaresoft could do no wrong.
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>>737705624
Atlus won
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>>737705624
Now they are known as MMO company
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>>737705681
What happened? Has it to do with the Square Soft/Enix fusion?
I remember of the company almost failing due to a film, but I think it was already Square Enix.
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>>737705624
you should probably play something other than squeenix games and then you'll see why they're so shit.
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>>737705689
That can't be overstated.
>Remake, Remaster and New Game all in one year.
>Steady releases since.
Raidou 2 remake when?
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most jrpg fans would trade e33 never existing for a good final fantasy game

the casuals are ok with square enix dying
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>>737706421
Squenix has been slop for a LONG time, grandpa.
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>>737706187
problem is SE wants its remasters to be AAA productions
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>>737706421
I would trade Square Enix death for a finger and I'm a JRPG fan.
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>>737706605
Could've fucking fooled me.
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>>737705681
>>Squaresoft could do no wrong
>Final Fantasy is called Final Fantasy because all of their previous attempts failed and FF was their last try before giving up and dissolving the company
>FF2 fucking sucked
>FF3 was below average
>FF5 fucking sucked
>FF8 sucked
>shitty unforgotten side projects like Soukaigi
Squaresoft was just like Square Enix. you're just focusing on the goods and entirely forgot about the bads
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>>737706850
>ff5 sucked
kys
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>>737706909
not my take on it fag. ask how everyone felt back then going from 4 to 5
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>>737705689
>nobody cared about Q2
>nobody cared about P3R
>nobody cared about Metaphor
>they are intentionally holding back on P6 because they know P5 was a lightning in a bottle and still provides good sales annually
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>>737707147
Keep crying like the little bitch you are.
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>>737706085
square soft was a godlike game developer but then they wasted all of their money on a 3dcg movie and had to merge with enix to stay alive. square enix has made nothing but garbage since then.
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>>737706132
no. Jack and his team need me (this is like my 4th run)
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>>737707384
Funny enough, this game wasn't made by SE.
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>>737707289
>headlines without context
Metaphor took 6 months to hit the 2 million milestone. FF16 did 3.5 million on the first week and that's considered weak for FF standards.
Atlus is not operating on the same level and likely never will given how bad P3R performed
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>>737707474
it's considered a Nioh clone and it's honestly nothing like Nioh. square probably had a big say in how the gameplay was shaped up. but moreover it was pretty kino how the whole game was tied to FF1
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>>737707652
And what about the context in how both Rebirth and FF16 sales were shit (FF16 3.5m sales one year ago and nothing else while the other not even has gotten a sales milestone announcement).
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>>737707289
Name 1 good thing about metaphor
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>>737708272
The story and the characters. Sorry, you would never know since you just repeat whatever shit you see here.
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>>737708068
i don't give a shit about 7. that thing can go fuck itself
though i have no idea why Square is not updating or revealing any sales. they stopped doing that since they started their company reboot. it's however mathematically impossible to get 3.5 million sales and then drop to absolute 0 on the following weeks. so i have a hard time believing that they didn't pass the 5 million yet
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>>737708345
>story
Hahahaa
>characters
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>737708412
>didn't pass the 5 million yet
They certainly would've announced it if that was the case.
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>>737708609
Whatever you say, brownoid.
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>>737705689
As usual.
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>>737705624
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0SSeBcWpJc
We were promised Kino. Kino was never delivered. Not to forget that it took them a decade to deliver a pile of shit.
KH3 took too long, Nier is no where to be seen.
FF7R... sigh
FF14 7.0 was atrocious. And, 8.0 doesn't look like is going to bring anyone back, rather is turning into a mobile slop.
Which leads to their constant mobile slop, where they whore their IPs.
Lastly, all their failed projects: Forspoken, Babylon's Fall, Marvel's Avengers, etc.

>>737706850
eat a dick.
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>>737708614
they had a PC and XBox port by now. it would be really really weird if they haven't reach 5m yet.
not that it matters to me though. more sqex kino for me. sales numbers are just important for shareholder-fags or retards that try just to justify their vidya taste.
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>>737710198
Yeah dude, you totally don't seethe about sales, we can tell.
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>>737706972
No one in the West knew, you larping zoomer dipshit.
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>>737710260
you started it though
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>>737705624
They finally wised up and are investing more into XIV.
About time
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>>737710678
>you started it >>737707147
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>>737710272
5 was largely considered to be a bad game and a huge step down from 4
you're just the oldfag equivalent of FF fans that realized 13 is fun for what it is
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>>737710849
>doesn't comprehend the post
Oh, you're a bot.
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>>737705624
I've been boycotting them ever since they batched censorship into my game after I bought it. Never again SE.
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>>737710784
i only really brought it up at the end to emphasize that Atlus is deliberately holding back on P6 because they're afraid of neutering P5's sales. which is weird because if they're so good they would just shoot for P6. case in point that P5 is viewed as a lightning in a bottle even internally. the discourse around non-P5 Atlus titles is almost non-existent
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>>737710963
what are you implying here? that amerifags fucked up the numbers on the mainline titles because they were huge retards back then and still are huge retards today? hardly my fault as a non-amerifag. 5 is still considered to be a bad FF game.
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>>737711616
That it wasn't released in English until eight (8) years after, after both VII and VIII. No one even could compare them except the hardcore crowd playing the translated rom, and they all overwhelmingly prefered V. You are a pathetic lonely retard and this is your last response.
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Uhh because there hasn't been a good FF since X? They clearly lost their magic
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Just finished Gongaga in FF7 Rebirth and I'm fucking bored to tears. The side content in this game is abysmal dogshit.
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>>737705681
>Squaresoft could do no wrong.
The genesis of anything wrong with current day SE can literally be traced back to pic related.
Get their dick out of your mouth. Just because they had a very good run during the ps1, doesn't mean they weren't also retarded. Remember, it was enix who had to save their asses first.
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>>737712025
rebirth is just a ubislop in disguise. they implemented a fucking fast-forward button because they knew what a slog it was going to be.
play 16. it's a lot more fun
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>>737706850
>Final Fantasy is called Final Fantasy because all of their previous attempts failed and FF was their last try before giving up and dissolving the company
>Still believing this shit in 2026
>Thinks 3 & 5 werent some of the most influential games in the series
>Also that this is the same as publishing 50 failed cashgrab gachas in-between progressively worse mainline FFs, refusing to nurture any IPs with more than minimal budget, and shoveling out hundreds of mediocre remasters and remakes
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>>737712352
>>Also that this is the same as publishing 50 failed cashgrab gachas in-between progressively worse mainline FFs
the argument was that squaresoft couldn't do wrong. not that one instance equals the other.
>refusing to nurture any IPs with more than minimal budget, and shoveling out hundreds of mediocre remasters and remakes
Visions of Mana looks good. had enough budget
NEO TWEWY could have needed more production value but it is absolutely fine as is
SaGa Emerald Beyond was also fine
i would hardly call Crisis Core Reunion, Star Ocean 2 and Legends of Mana "mediocre remasters"
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>>737712352
>Still believing this shit in 2026
as opposed to what truth? they were shitting the bed with everything in the early 80's. Sakaguchi even planned to go back to college and leave the scene if FF didn't do well.
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>>737711616
>5 is still considered to be a bad FF game
You're the first person I've seen calling FFV bad.
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>>737705624
Really what happened is that Square Enix turned Final Fantasy into a trilogy series, and this is where it all went downhill.

Return to one-off games, stop making trilogies, and everything will be alright.
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>>737712025
>The side content in this game is abysmal dogshit.
How so? the sidequests are fun, the enemy challenges are fun and the summon battles are awesome
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>>737715578
Not just trilogies for evey game, but MMOs, gachas, and other mobile slop. They became completely focused on monetization and revenue after the Enix merger. They used to care about the quality of their games and the prestige of the Final Fantaay name, now they are just entirely profit-minded and the expense of their brand.
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>>737718015
*AT the expense
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>>737705624
My only experience with Squeenix is them killing Deus Ex via excessive retardation.

Are they in trouble? I hope they are.
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>>737718015
>Not just trilogies for evey game, but MMOs, gachas, and other mobile slop.
Well yes, but I'm referring specifically to mainline Final Fantasy in my graph and post. You're referring to Square Enix's broader attack on the video games market as a whole.
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>>737705624
7.5 is on Tuesday bro
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>>737706695
Secret of Mana sucked anyways though I will grant the remake does ruin the art which is the originals one saving grace.
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>>737705624
Squaresoft died in 2003. Enix always sucked and enshittified square beyond repair.



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