Why did Zero become a better maverick hunter and hero after one fight despite not having gone through 100 years worth of morality simulations like X?
>>737708898Why does the red guy have green tits?
>>737708898Because after his fight with Sigma he developed amnesia and was therefore able to be reeducated to be a good guy instead of an uncontrollable berserker. As for why they made him a Hunter so soon after? I think it's because Zero instinctively loved combat and was extremely suited to it. Who better to keep insane robots in line than a restored and rehabilitated killing machine?
>>737708898Shame we never got maverick hunter versions of X2-X6 as was originally intended, Also Vile having a playable campaign instead Zero was fucking awesome
>>737708898X holds himself back because of the morality simulations. There have been short glimpses that X would be unstoppable if he didn't hold himself back.Zero has no such limitation, and was a Wily bot that was built solely for combat.
>>737708898The fuck is that Zero? Why does he look so different?
>>737708898because he's the only other next gen robot that wasn't a knock-off X
>>737709378this 100% X definitely has the power
>>737709456play the games blud
>>737709456that's his original Wily-made body from X1 before being rebuilt in X2
>>737708985I think they are supposed to look more like big buttons, like on clothes.
>>737709456I miss his sleeker design from X1. X-Hunters rebuilt him wrong.
>>737708898Zero is just cooler.
>>737709653>rebuiltGiven how superior X and Zero are to your average reploid, why don't they mass produce them? Or their chassis, anyway.
>>737709826Using X as a template is why Reploids are called Reploids to begin with. But there's a golden rule in anime: The unique prototype is always superior to the mass production model.
>>737708898Zero got the work done while X couldn't get the work done because of the morality testing. To sum it up basically kill count.
Why did Light make it so his robots needed to wear underwear?
>>737709456Zero was incomplete prior to him getting repaired in X2. Wily wasn't able to finish it on time.
>>737709826They do try to build stronger reploids but the thing is that X continues to evolve and get stronger while Zero is basically overpowered but can still get stronger by removing his limiters.>>737710065Reploids are called reploids because they replicate humans (thought/thought process).
>>737710316>Reploids are called reploids because they replicate humans???
>>737709826play the games. basically>humans and engineering-reploids try to figure out X and Zero's physiology after discovering them>they usually misunderstand what made them perfect reploids>as of MMZ a lot of years have passed>the average reploid has now supposedly become perfect themselves, though their functionality doesn't always reflect X or Zero, although some reploid bodies are exact replicas of X and Zero>some shit happens and years pass again>X and Zero are both gone along with their bodies>some scientists find fragments of their bodies and convert them into biometals with which a reploid gains access to part of their immense powers>even biometals exist that are based off of absolutely different X and Zero copiesthat's the gist of things
>>737709826because the mass produced X sucks dick
>>737710316>Reploids are called reploids because they replicate humansI assume Capcom stated this at some point? However that definition doesn't work well because there have been reploid animals from the start. What *all* reploids share - humanoid or not - is that their programming uses Mega Man X as a template, granting them his iconic free will. Which also happens to be what allows them to ""replicate humans (thought/thought process)"" so you aren't entirely wrong.
X is a leader and visionary, while Zero is a pure fighter, a soldier with iron discipline.Or that's how I'd like to put it but then X ends up doing nothing but fighting while complaining about it.
>>737710065
>>737709826>>737710316>X can continuously grow while Zero is basically a level 99 at a level 30 map field>people can't crack how they work>next breakthrough is reploids copying other reploids (new gens) but the best they can copy is Sigma because he's the best of the reploids made closest to X because X and Zero can't be figured out but Axl is adept at being able to transform>next break through is Force Metal that powers up reploids to stronger levels than known, create reploids that surpass limits but Epsilon and those reploids now want all reploids to break that limit by causing a war>same lab creates Force Metal for X that that ends up abandoned because of Epsilon starting evolution war, scientific expert on Force Metal Gaudile hides in his own lab and creates Cinnamon who can handle and even create Force Metal who in turn somehow manages to create a Force Metal for Zero
>>737710770Who could forget our favorite hound?
>>737710530Replicant Androids. That's why they're called Repliroids in Japanese.
Is there anyone who doesn't love Zero?
>>737710952yes, the average /v/ contrarian :)
>>737709456Play any entry before X3
>>737710952I don't.
>>737708898Wily was better than Light.
>>737710191Fixed.
>>737710606Gist of one side anyway. MMZ basically forks from X to have Zero's programming become the antivirus to X-copied reploids but then Weil uses that same programming to take control of bots causing a second destruction war after Eurasia's colony drop.Biometals aren't using X and Zero body fragments, just programming that Ciel tried basing off of what she knew about X and Zero.
>>737709793God the art for Command mission was so good. Sad that it was essentially the last we saw of the X timeline.
>>737710606aren't biometals just copies of the originals minus the body?
>>737710952Inafune haters
>>737708898X holds himself back because Light feared he could go out of control and be a massive problem, so he mad e him go through moral tests for 100 years, Zero is Attackman from Wily.
>>737708898He became better at the end of ZX4.
>>737709826Mass produced items are always lower quality than bespoke, boutique handmade items. This isn't a bad thing. It makes them cheaper and more versatile at the cost of quality. This is true today, and it will certainly be true in a hundred years time.
>>737709826The implication is that Light and Wily are both the last great human minds.Humans continue to get dumber and more self destructive after they both die.
>>737710191Because he didn't wanna make robots, he wanted to make mechanical human beings
>>737708898Wily was right.
>Zero is plagued by his "no reason to fight for" because it was literally the virus that went to Sigma>Now he's just a robot with no programming doing whatever the fuck>Finds X to have a nice figure to follow
>>737711184There is no ZX4.
>>737710065>But there's a golden rule in anime: The unique prototype is always superior to the mass production model.That just makes general sense, the prototype has all the bells and whistles jammed into it to see what it can do. Then the mass production scales back stuff to make it cost efficient. There's also the fact that the TallGeese would kill its pilots.
>>737710191Still surprised this got a reissue after a decade.
>>737708898Because Wily built him to be the ultimate weapon.>>737709826Anon....reploids are literally the attempt to mass produce X but not being able to do so because he's on a whole other level.
>>737708985>>737709665Zero was going to be a woman at first, but a producer didn't like it
>>737711556zero being a cocky teen warrior was cool
>>737711106yeah, I tried to condense it but thanks for adding more to it>>737711119to be honest, I understood biometals as part of their bodies with instances of the originals' consciousness. weren't the biometals of X and Zero vague with their memories? and we don't even know if there are more than one X and Z biometal. it was shown that all other reploids have more than one biometal, see bio metal F, H, W, etc...
>>737711453It's funny because Zero was supposedly just a killing machine with just one job. Much like any other Wily creation, but losing his initial one job programming made him evolve much beyond originally intended.
>yfw Redips is Spider
>>737708898Pure skill, obviously
>>737711464Keep telling that to yourself.
>>737711734No he's maverick.
>>737711684I don't think he evolved at all, it just reset his priorities, at the end of the day he's still just a warrior who fights for his friends :)
>>737711621>to be honest, I understood biometals as part of their bodies with instances of the originals' consciousness.General inti flipflopping with their story parts but they just stuck with program made by Ciel making what she thought were the thought process of them.
>>737711783dude you're illiterate
>>737710606>some scientists find fragments of their bodies and convert them into biometals with which a reploid gains access to part of their immense powersI wish this retarded headcanon would die. Stick to the Sonic series you autistic little twat.
>>737711119The Biometals talk in first person about thing the originals did, but the game itself says its data based on the old heroes.Probably a case of Copy X but good this time
>>737711790Nah he was a single-minded killing machine, no thought at all.He was made to be just like Wily, to keep coming back, which Sigma does instead.
>>737710606>they usually misunderstand what made them perfect reploidsBecause they aren't reploids. Technically X and Zero are Robot Masters
>>737711862HEROES
>>737711927I mean Bass was a guy with thoughts as well
>>737711939Their only flaw was being so loyal to X they settled for a mere copy because they had to have a daddy X to obey.
>>737711937Technically because they're so advanced they just simplified as reploids even though their software is an effective black box and they're considered a pain in the ass to physically repair too.
>>737711464>>737711783>>737711862Her games soon?
>>737712081They were never THAT loyal to X. They were more loyal to humanity than him.
>>737712031Bass is literally just Mega Man Classic's Vegeta, unironically.
>>737712081i don't think they ever met him, they were created after he sealed himself with the mother elf. They only obeyed copy X to an extent, harpuia never trusted him in zero 3.
>>737712178I thought he was Hakkaider given the color scheme.
>>737712276I meant in terms of personality
>>737712197that's because that was another X copy with a faulty voice module and different personality
>>737712081>they settled for a mere copy because they had to have a daddy X to obey.Leviathan and Fefnir refuse a direct order from even the original X when he asks them to aid Zero against Omega. The only reason they eventually go along with it is because they got beaten so badly by Omega that their salty runback was more important with him than Zero at that moment. Coincidentally that moment also shoots down the retarded Zero x Leviathan fanfiction that the fanbase likes to headcanon because Leviathan bluntly comes out and says that she hates his guts and has no intention on ever being friendly with him.
>>737712319>different personalityehhh
>>737712402>Zero x LeviathanLeviathan probably gay for Cial
>>737711927>Nah he was a single-minded killing machine, no thought at all.I thought that was unintentional and that is why Wily sealed him away with the virus
>>737712276i remember that guy from that cartoon! hes like bass?
>>737712604Nta but I don't remember if Hackafune ever actually clarified what Zero's past truly was, and whether he's the true source of the virus or if it just happened to be sealed with it.
>>737712402>Leviathan bluntly comes out and says that she hates his guts and has no intention on ever being friendly with him.has a more blatant love confession ever be made?
>>737708898Because Zero had a soul while X was just a gay robot faggot.
>>737712276that's darkman though
>>737712739Technically his design served as a major inspiration for the darkman line and Bass.
>>737712825>DA BADDLE HAZ ONLY JUS BEGUN>DIE ZELLO JUS DIE ZEROOOOOOOOOOO-Sigma announcing his love to Zero from the roof tops.
>>737712891>>737712890Vile great-great grandfather?
>>737712921>gay fantasies out of nowhereno wonder a woman loving a man makes you so upset.
>>737712891wish i played mm4 sooner.
>>737712995he is from 5
>>737712995Those are from 5.
>>737712995Why? Their boss fights are pretty braindead.
>>737712976>fantasiesThat's your own logic Zerokek. Don't get upset over it.
>>737713078a woman wanting to kill you is a love confession. Not like a homosexual would get it
>>737713164Imagine being this upset that Zero was made for tall bald reploid bastards.
>>737713045>>737713052oh>>737713072because it would make my brain short circuit seeing a similar design back then
>>737711028>t.Albert Wily
>>737708898Someone has that image of Gohan X saying " YOU MAVERICK"?
>>737710641>he doesn't knowThat's not a mass produced X.
>>737713375
>>737711684Maybe Wily was just shit at coding
>>737713375.
>>737711734
>>737713420I mean, he was old as shitprobably barely senile by the time Zero's body was finished
>>737708898Because Zero is THE war machine while the real of X was suppose to be the first real human-like robot. X can fight and thanks his adaptability/potential he can grow as a fighter, but that was never his main purpose.
>>737713420Wily is notoriously shit at coding. His second attempt at Zero was a schizophrenic mess that breaks down into a bloodthirsty rampage, mistaking X for Megaman.
>>737708898He lost the maverick virus
>>737713626why does losing the virus cause him to turn objectively good instantly?why does X need countless simulations to achieve the same thing?
>>737711734I can't believe I did not see that twist coming
>>737712319That was the same Copy X.
Childhood is liking X.Adolesence is liking Zero.Adulthood is understanding that Sigma did nothing wrong and is the real hero of the story.
>>737713585wait is the first zero megaman's influence?
>>737713809liking Sigma does not make you a sigma male
So all animal-themed reploids are just criminals huh?
>>737713450Lmao, thanks anon.
>>737713809Yeah but Sigma is bald
>>737713914That's because he lives in a society.
>>737713771Weil just gave him a stutter as a joke.
>>737713809I get irrationally mad whenever I'm forced to look at an evil bald man in any media.
>>737713945That was CopyX choking on the self-destruct bomb
>>737708898Nothing to worry about.
>>737713809sigma virus infected reploid hands wrote this
>Stuck hunting mavericks like some repo manMeanwhile Repliforce had the most the most powerful army, in, HISTORYYYYYYYY
>Hakaider>Discussion of the meaning behind Reploids and the science fiction influence>Jokes about the racial themesthis is probably the best x thread i've seen in a hot minute
>>737713809>Sigma did nothing wrong and is the real hero of the story.Get fucked, Maverick
>>737713870>laughs in non-maverick supremacy
>>737714121God I fucking hate this lardass.
It sure smells like mavericks here.
>>737714264His theme song is fucking wild.
>>737714158Who got their asses BEAT. Like, holy fuck, did X & Zero just end their existence.
... Gulp.
You think there were any humans that agreed with Sigma?
>>737714196Megaman in general is a ripoff of multiple jp science fiction media, taking anything that seemed interesting from any of them and meshing them together into one setting. You could say that the genre's decline is what partially led to its own demise. I mean apart from the occasional mech show what the fuck is there in terms of science fiction nowadays? Fantasy dominates Japan.
>>737713703He doesn't become good, he just accepts whatever else they tell him to do, then he starts questioning what he really wants.X needed the simulations to be moral, not good, X is still the most brutal hunter, he tries to give you a chance before deleting you at least.
>>737713870>in the future furries are still hated and vilified, even the robotic onesBased
>>737708898X is a bum
Zero is an evil killing machine made by doctor will. The evil energy from mm8 spills out when his forehead gem is broken in fight against sigma, which causes the maverick virus. He is infected by it, which inverts his base good/bad programming, making him a "good" killing machine.
>megaman threadneat, I was actually about to ask the general about this but I figured why not here did the 30th anniversary artbooks ever get scanned anywhere? both the rentrys and other usual scan places don't seem to have it, it's a shame because it seems pretty good
>>737714264>Dr. Cain's last creation>Its a Sigma moleHere lies Cain, he died as he lived. Two steps forwards, 1 and 3/4 back
>>737714386>Astro Boy >Kikaider >CashernAnything else Mega Man borrows from?
>>737709378>X [headcanon]
>>737714264He's based.
>>737714292
>>737714501tokusatsu in general but that's more prevalent in other subseries apart from classic and kikaider already technically covers that given its live action adaptation.
>>737714503That's actually canon though. It's why he's still a B rank hunter. Both Zero and Signas acknowledge that in game.
>>737714501The white armor upgrades are based off Samurai Pizza Cats. The orbital drop in X5/X6 is probably from Gundam.
>>737714362Yeah, I mean, humans were already killing themselves all the time, might as well birth a new humanity and that is what Sigma ultimately accomplished.They look like they are doing fine, MM Legends is top comfy.
>>737708898Because X canonically holds back throughout the entire reasons because muh pacifism. In Maverick Hunter X when he briefly goes nuclear Sigma is like >ayo wtf this nigga has unlimited potential
I really like how all the bosses in X5 are different depending on the gamestate when you meet them, and with which character. Take Tidal Whale for instance - If you meet him with X he's won't let the hunters despoil the ocean with nuclear waste, but if you meet him after the colony has already crashed he says this:>The sea is... The sea is already dead... X... I'm a man of the sea... I want to share the same destiny as the ocean... I've already been infected by the virus, too... Do a favor for me... Fight me and let me rest in the ocean... in peace...
>>737714362If there was any human other than Cain in the setting maybe Sigma would had try some kind of propaganda "your humans rulers are shit, let reploids rule" even if it was pure bullshit. In that hypothetical case there would be some retard here and there actually believing Sigma.
>>737714470It didn't get scanned as far as I know, it's a fucking shame
>>737714576Metal Jack was also an anime that was a thing around the time Megaman X was created. There was a general vibe for futuristic police shows.
>>737714604Props to Sigma - He's basically just a regular-ass Reploid, not made by Wily or Light. He must've been a genius.
>>737710191Sexo angle.
>>737714604>holds backLittle guy gets fucking trashed by Vile.
>>737714685maybe i shouldnt get this figurine
>>737714576introducing one of the new stage maverick bosses of X9, Crow Magnon
>>737714684Technically Sigma was Cain's best reploid he made and the closest he got to achieving a Copy X. That fight with Zero just got him infected in the sense that it removed whatever inhibitions he had removing humans.
>>737714865Thats the Zero edgelord armor he gets in CM
>>737714501yatterman
>>737714834>Not wanting to look at Roll's fat ass.Wuss.
>>737710191You know how weird it'd look for a robot to wear clothes but not have underwear to cover the featureless crotch?
>>737714865This is literally Storm Eagle!
Do you think reploids were made for sex?
>>737714967>fat ass>that>fat
>>737715028For a loli it's thicc.
>>737715054I've seen thicker.
>>737714681Also Saint Seiya and Ronin anime
>Shoots a giant robot while falling from the sky>Shoots himself down a building like nothing>Sigma tells him that he can do much more if just fight harderYeah X is above and beyond Zero, Zero just has no qualms killing anything.
>>737715012If you give them the upgrades. We know Light was a hack who only made 2 fembots when only 3 exist so he clearly wasn't giving the world fembot sex.
>>737714476>>737714518>Dr. Cain last creation
HE BETRAYED THE IRREGULAR HUNTERS AND HID HIMSELF WHILE TRYING TO REPAIR HIMSELF
What I remember from the early X online fandom is how a lot of girls were into it, drawing fanart and making fancomics. Probably moved on to Kingdom hearts or some shit.
>>737714476>Wily & Light are so far ahead that Cain & Ciel are basically hacks compared to them
How come they never made a Giraffe maverick?
>>737715204No, a lot of girls are still into it. The Megaman community is like the only online community where you have like a 40% chance of talking to a random Megaman fan and not knowing that they're a biological woman behind the screen. Fujos fucking love Megaman.
>>737715356Giraffes are too powerful and it would be unfair for everyone else.
>>737715361Megaman in general has a very varied fanbase. Aside from the game fanse, some are actual musicians who can play +90 songs on the guitar by memory.
>>737715426Yeah you get artists, musicians, etc but ironically enough the fanbase sucks at making a full game to fruition worse than the OoT rom hacking community.
>>737708985he's gay
>>737715356Not much of a maverick if you can just shoot the body. Best you can expect is the head to be used like a flail.
>>737715485No way, romhacking-net has had at least one full mega man game come out every week since 2009. And some of the mega-project fangames get finished too.
>>737711291maybe it's not humans getting dumber but machines becoming better
>>737715136>Builds not one but TWO robots that can comfortably shit on 95% of what they can face.>One was a converted lab assistant, the other was just armed in case shit happens.Thank God that Light wasn't someone like Wily
>>737711291It was a stronger generation. His father worked the mines, 'til the day it took his life.
>>737715590>Pic relatedCome on Anon. That hardly counts as a Megaman game. It's literally just a mash up level collab.
>>737715648Navericks?
>>737715356They made an ostrich
>>737708898Because Dr W made him to start at power lever 9000 from the startX was like baby but with limitless potential so he'd eventually surpass Zero
>>737715648>>737715712Oil Man.
You didn't get the saber? Too bad.
>>737715742>X has unlimited pot-ACKGet femboyed, nerd.
>>737715680A dark AU where Light went mad would be a pretty cool setting to explore.
>>737715917Of course I didn't get the Saber. That's the most cryptic fucking sequence of requirements I've ever seen in a video game. I replayed X3 like 24 times back in the day, collected every single item and did different boss orders, and I never even started that route.
>>737715927X was a glorified padlock by that moment in time.
>>737713809You sound like you've gone Maverick™!
research time what wuld u wanna see in a mmx fangame i've got some really interesting suggestions before like loot pickups from enemies and enhanced narrative depth
>>737715927>had already become a force ghostnothing personal
>>737715928
>>737715927And said Femboy only killed a Mega Man on a technicality and after X couldn't no longer defend himself
>>737716028So much for unlimited potential, more like unlimited pussy ass scared little bitch moments.
>>737716047that sounds shit
>>737716047Character swap on the fly like Xtreme 2 and/or Megamerge mechanic for armor change
>>737715927>Failed janitor getting uppity again
>>737716047I just want a megaman X maker.
>>737716063Robotnik is not even in the same galaxy of robotics. He's always out there building beetle unicycles for god's sake.
>>737715927He had ascended all that bullshit by then. Zero is still stuck in the material world like some hylic goku.
>>737708898If we're being honest, creator's pet.
>>737708985Because his ancestor did
>>737716116it's interesting to play with different ideas! No reason to stick to what we've already done. It's still in prototyping stages to find fun mechanics.>>737716156Character swaps is definitely a big one i'm playing with, but how it's being done is being kept a little quiet
>>737716239True, except Metal Sonic which is Zero-tier in terms of longevity. The rest would absolutely crush Eggman's joke army.
>>737716062>waaa waaa my boyfriend zero is gone I will become a neet and then get cucked by a dictator version of myself
>>737716290We must return to animal.
I love this nigger like you wouldn't believe.hope he comes back for X9
>Floor it, AUTO! The pigs are coming! I'm not going back to jail!
>>737716334Didn't Metal job to Zero in Death Battle?
>>737708898>zero is crazy serial killer>gets punched in the head by sigma>sigma becomes crazy serial killer instead (?)>zero is now super duper good guy>also there's a fucking virus>then the virus mutates into zero (????)>zero goes into big sleep so they can make a vaccine from his body (??????????????????????????????????????)How the fuck does the Mega Man X plot even work
>>737710823reading this it feels like the only time X and Zero got to go up in power was when the force metal thing happened
>>737716374Yeah, I like him better than Vile who's entire personality is "I hate X but somehow I'm not like the other 50 million Mavericks that hate him too.".
Custom-built wife Reploid.
What if Zero got a shotgun?
>>737716428Wily code is so bad that it basically gives robot AIDs.
>>737716063
>>737716334Sonicbros...
>>737714501
>>737716506The idea is as silly as giving Goku a machinegun.They are better at simply beating the shit out of things close range.
>>737716508Best headcanon.>mfw leaving :wq in a file
>>737714573>that's actually [headcanon]no, there isn't a single thing that says "x is holding back because he is a moralfag"he is B rank because he sucks
>>737716601Why did the W make Zero hurt???????????????Also isn't the virus just Evil Energy from 8???????and X is immune to the virus because Dr. Light figured out a cure to Evil Energy a century ago????
>>737716663You fucking maverick.
>>737716428>Zero is violent due to programming errors that Wily couldn't finish>Wily makes a virus to correct it in Zero's capsule>100 something years later or whatever, Zero wakes up and starts tearing shit up>Commander Sigma of the Maverick Hunters is called in because Zero is killing anybody that comes into the abandoned warehouse he was sleeping in>Zero and Sigma fight it out>Virus kicks in and gives Sigma a window to end the fight by punching his crystal>Sigma unknowingly gets infected but for Zero it was like turning a computer off mid update which is what the W on his forehead essentially was, the virus updating Zero>Zero does a complete personality flip while Sigma slowly loses his mind as the virus melds to his system and begins to mutate along with him>Zero however is still infected the entire time and the virus becomes a part of him just like it did with Sigma>Zero either volunteers himself to be study on while hibernating or technology advances so far that new generation reploids can no longer become infected into going Maverick and society resets to pre-Zero awakeningHope that clears that up for you.
>>737716428That's the plot that leads to MMZ. The plot is really>Wily makes bot to beat out Light but dies mid production of virus meant to cripple Megaman after he barely finished bot>Zero wakes up and he's carrying around that virus>destroys reploids that went into the lab and fights Sigma>Sigma being the closest replication of X triggers virus>Zero gets punched out and Sigma infected>virus mutates and stuff happens to turn it to Sigma virus while Zero was brought in>Wily wanted to use new virus to unlock Zero's full power>either Zero sleeps and starts MMZ removing Sigma virus but causing a worse disaster or he doesn't and Sigma virus is still around things are settling down
>>737716663>Zero: Back away from my wife, fucker.>X: Sorry Zero, I->Zero: Wasn't talking to you.
>>737716682>Why did the W make Zero hurt???????????????Virus>Also isn't the virus just Evil Energy from 8???????No but it could have been derived from it>and X is immune to the virus because Dr. Light figured out a cure to Evil Energy a century ago????X is immune to viruses but the virus was more than likely super altered so it's not the same thing
>>737716506His Z-Buster in X6?
>>737716697>X Doesn't kill the Colonel because he talks things over>Iris doesn't go insane anymoreIt just works.
>>737716697>>737716663I wonder if her brother would approve of X
>>737716457Like his namesake, he looks cool.
>>737716610https://youtu.be/TPRxSc-fI4s?si=Bj15CYEumn1Rox_Y&t=131You're an idiot. Keep your mouth shut secondary.
>>737716886Colonel roughly told X to go fuck himself although in a sense Colonel and Iris are basically the result of making a failed X.
>>737716978He looks like a dumb Temu Boba Fett
>>737716709>Zero is violent without virus>Virus is to solve that (why is it a virus lmfao)>Sigma gets virus and it makes him violent (???????)>Zero is not now violent because reasonsThat doesn't fucking clear up shit>>737716735and Zero has to sleep to cure the virus because ?????
>>737716886That sounds good but the Colonel is a retard and has his PRIDE
>>737716334Metal Sonic has rarely been shown to be a serious threat. Frankly, I think X or Zero solos even Metal Overlord.
So what's the most recent Classic/X game you replayed? Fangames included.I replayed 8. It was a lot better than I remembered.
>>737717110X3 with Zero project mod
>>737717073>(why is it a virus lmfao)Because Wily is a destructive asshole.>Sigma gets virus and it makes him violent (???????)Because it was never intended for Sigma. It's writing code in an electronic brain that doesn't know what to do with said code.>Zero is not now violent because reasonsZero is not violent anymore because he was never intended to be a violent dog without a leash. Go look at Awakened Zero in X5. That is the Zero that Wily was trying to make. A calm and collected killer, not a rampaging animal.
Did you know that the melody in the background of his stage is the same as Cutman's stage?Both levels involve climbing a giant tower as well.
>>737708898He has a lightsaber
>>737717094Metal Sonic is at least on par with a new gen reploid like Axl, so X and Zero would be able to handle him
>>737710191What? Do you want roll just walking around with her robo-pussy out in the open?
>>737717073>and Zero has to sleep to cure the virus because ?????He's basically letting people research his hibernating body to research the virus without having anything else happen because Zero like X is effectively so advanced that people can't decipher him. Even Light had problems and the best he ended up doing at the time is removing a limiter that increased some stats (that's Black Zero). Gate was close but even he couldn't do it. He sleeps, no outside stimulus, they can try to narrow it down.
Die, Sigma! You don't belong in this world!
>>737717090My cute retard maverick wife
>>737717643
>>737717219No you were completely wrong about the virus and so almost everything in your post was wrong, see >>737716735
>>737717691>You're wrong so let me tell you how you're wrong>proceeds to say the exact same thingOkay then.
>>737716567he throws wheels with his hands?
>>737717805Wow you're fucking retarded
>>737717962>Gets mad>Ad hominemWow, what a surprise.
>>737716380got a good chuckle from this
>>737716380To this day Auto is still a mystery, he just shows up and outlives everyone
>>737718206>Next I'll make a fat bumbling idiot as a joke
>>737715028her dress has a nice crease showing off her asscheekscum pools there real nice
>>737718009>shown exactly how you were wrong>claim it's the same against all objective evidence>surprised when you're dismissed as a moron
What was it like to play X4 on release?
>>737718378>N-no u...The only thing that shocks me about your response is how long it took you to type that.
>>737718489I was amazed at how awesome it looked
>>737716429It's a space power and that powers up robots since Classic with Evil Energy and stuff. X probably got his specific one made in the same ruined lab you find it at when you beat a mob carrying it. Zero ends up getting his specific one from a girl after she makes it for him.
>>737709826Reploids are already the attempt to reproduce then.
>X is the single most advanced robot until MMZKinda insane what Light did here, he probably could even extend his one life indefinitely if he wanted.
>>737718835>IllusionShe have giant oppai.
>>737717791>>737717684>>737717643What if Princess Daisy was in Iris body?
>>737719597X is still leagues above anything in MMZ. People tend to ignore the fact that he nulifies the Dark Elf and Omega's global mind control without a fucking body and while running on electronic fumes as a ghost just so they can brag about their headcanon that Copy X was a perfect and misunderstood copy of the real X. (He wasn't)
X owns and making zero the protagonist for MMZ was gay. It should have been>X thinks he's going maverick or something and goes back in the capsule for testing>some big ass event happens and buries his capsule again for a bazillion years>he gets found and woken up and finds out zero has gone full Wily
>crossoverI hate Sonic
>>737719910The most kino scenario would be Dash finding capsules for X and Zero on the moon, with a text saying to wake them up if the world needs heroes again.
>>737713837The blue one in the picture? That’s Via, he’s like the physical manifestation of Wily’s original Robot Destroy program.
>>737719830Reploid Souls are effectively Cyber Elves, and X as a Cyber Elf still has the most sophisticated programming ever to that point in time.Cyber Elves themselves however were discovered through researching Zero (in deep status) and the Sigma Virus.It lines up with Zero being based on stolen developmental data for X. If Wily developed the Maverick Virus in part to compensate for not getting Zero's free will correct, but also as an effort to counter Light's own robots, it makes sense that the virus would mutate when interacting with something replicating X's programming.Which is to say, Dr. Light actually made robotic souls from the very start, Wily failed to copy that homework properly, and consequently fucked up robotic souls for millennia to come together with Dr. Cain's short-sightedness.
>>737719910I can tell that your favorite game is X4.
Home
>>737720468>Sprites Inc is barely functionalEnd of an era.
>>737720413The thing is Zero developmental data wasn't taken from X's development, both X and Zero use Proto Man's developmental data.
>>737720464nah my favorite is X1 but I hate that maverick piece of shit zero because of UMVC3
>>737720639I just assumed because that's what X4's ending was kinda hinting towards.>I hate that maverick piece of shit zeroBased
>>737720586I remember reading somewhere that both X and Zero are based on the original Megaman, with the latter being designed to specifically counter him
For me, it's the chad Ruby-spears X
I just pretend that the zero series doesn't have a plot because it's so retarded
>>737720095>Dash: We need your help again, guys!>X: Okay, yeah, sure. That sounds about right. So, how do we get back?>Dash: ...
>>737720859This X was pretty cool too. Dude did not give an absolute fuck and just hunted Mavericks indiscriminately.
>>737720831In a way just not in the way that you expect. Proto Man was the base for both, but then they went through different ways. Light used Mega Man's data to develop X, while Wily used the data he got from Mega Man's attacks to develop the counter measure.
>>737720639'Sup bitch?
>>737717618I would fucking love to see Wily seething in the afterlife that Light was able to improve his masterpiece.
>>737719805
I hope Capcom makes Capcom vs Capcom so we can get X in an actual good fighting game.
>>737708898Why does Zero have nipples?
>>737721384So Iris can suck on them.
>>737714501I think there's some xabungle on it.The profession of the main character is a rock man at the beginning of the show.
>>737714501Getter robo, maybe.
>>737721316Technically it's an unlock rather than an improvement since Zero always had it. The closest thing to an improvement is the space power that comes from a meteor that may or may not have something to do with the energy that came from the 20XX evil energy ordeal.
>>737721354X would suck no matter what fighting game he's in because he would have to be a zoner and zoners are inherently the most unfun shit to play against in any fighting game.
>>737721718>Getter
>>737708898Zero was the worst possible killer robot that got hit with morality reversing virus.
>>737718489it was Amazing. Great game with such nice visuals the hold up today. definitely a personal favorite of the ps1 games I had back then
>>737715081Proof?
>>737722143Elin
>>737710952Me when I'm fucking dog walked by a Japanese Zero player in UMvC3
>>737710952I like him in the X series and think he's boring as shit in his own (and his redesign is very gay)
>>737716428To put it simple. Dr. Willy was unable to finish his magnum opus (same thing for Dr. Light), which means Zero is incomplete, the real purpose of the Zero Virus is to correct the problems inside Zero's programming and complete the work of Willy (this about it this way, Zero needed one last update to work properly), if the Zero Virus gets in contact with any robot that is not Zero, it will mutate the android and render him berserker/turn him maverick. After Sigma got his ass kicked and barely survived his encounter with Zero, Zero was brought to Dr. Cain and jury-rigged to work again. The virus mutated inside Sigma and created the Sigma Virus. After the events of Megaman X, Zero decided to seal himself, which would allow scientists to study him, find a cure for his virus and the sigma virus. The mother elf is created using a reverse engineered version of the Zero virus, the world is now free of the sigma virus and zero virus but there's a new problem, a scientist called Weil, wants to use the mother elf for his own plans. And that's it
>>737722706>After the events of Megaman X, Zero decided to seal himselfThat's really X6 since that convo he has with the doc is implying he went immediately and it's really only in his ending.
>wasn't even a real scientist, was a doctor of medieval history>didn't fully understand X's design but did understand he went through decades of moral diagnostic tests >decides to create Reploids anyway, literally resulting in the end of mankind after centuries of suffering different disasters and extinction events>dies of old age before even seeing any of the real horror he was responsible for>somehow is never regarded as a villain
>>737722918IIRC Megaman Zero mentioned Zero sealing himself after the events of X. Here's the fun part, he had to seal himself twice, because he was awoken during the Elf Wars to fight his stole body.
>>737722706(think about it this way*
>>737722706>Dr. Willy was unable to finish his magnum opus (same thing for Dr. Light)Incorrect regarding Dr.Light, X was 100% completed. I don't count the ethical testing or any of his armors in this regard
>>737723107>go to sleep>wake up in some jank copy body>have to fight your original prime bodyI would be so pissed
>>737722997hopefully his disciple will remedy the issue
>>737723107Yeah but that's the problem with MMZ: it flipflops alot to the point that they had to add other stuff in its attempt to tie together with MMX and later X series just disregards connecting to MMZ while X6 is the only spot that even does the connection but even then it's only in Zero's ending. X's endings have Zero sticking around and continuing on.
>world went to shit because we tried copying X >I know just what to do...
>>737722997Gave us reploid titties when Light never gave robopussy. He can never be the villain.
>>737708898Why did Blast Hornet have to die??
>>737723202I disagree, the 100 years of ethical testing X were necessary to ensure X would act like a proper human-like being with morals (which was the goal of Light). Copy X is what happens if he doesn't receive that last test.
>>737723460
>>737723460He couldn't handle the gravity of the situation
It wasn't 100 years of testing it was like 20 or 30, it just took 100 years for the capsule to be found
Part of me wishes that the games in the legacy collections were just straight up roms, so I didn't have to pirate the originals for romhack purposes.
>>737723547CARLOS
>>737723650good news they are straight up roms
>>737723717They are? I read up that some of them were roms, like Mega Man X1-3 and Megaman classic 1-6, but aren't the rest straight ports? Also, I forget if the Legacy collection includes the Sega Saturn port of Mega Man 8, with the better music and extra content.
>>737723630I stand corrected
>>737708985Zero can have rapunzel long locks and green tits and he's still the manliest guy in the X series
>>737723547
>>737708985Zero's head is cosmetic, his real face is the torso
>>737708898X has infinite potential, but that doesn't mean he started out strong. Think of it as something like this:>X: Starts at Level 10 (B-class Hunter)>Zero: Level ?? (Stats capped at around level 25, S-class)>8 Mavericks: Level 20 (S-class)>Sigma: Level 30 (S-class)As X progresses through the game, he rises in level. He starts out at Level 10, but rises in level by the end, defeating Sigma. During MMX1, the level cap of all Reploids is Level 30, with Sigma representing the absolute peak of what Reploid technology is able to achieve at the time. As time progresses, the level cap rises. Technology advances and produces stronger and smarter Reploids. The things to keep in mind are the following:1) We don't know what the ultimate level cap is. It could be level 99, it could be level 999, it could be level 999999. 2) As technology advances and better Reploids get made, X improves as well, keeping pace with the ever accelerating advancement of technology. We move onto MMX2. Technology has improved. The level cap for all Reploids has been raised.>X: Starts at level 25-30 (he no longer has the First Armor, but his base level has increased)>8 Mavericks: Level 25-35>Zero: Level ?? >Sigma: Level 50Once again, X has gotten stronger, keeping pace with Sigma.So then, what about Zero? What's his deal? Zero is already at his level cap. But for various reasons, he can't actually access most of his functions. He's always running severely underclocked, only able to use a fraction of his abilities. The more he fights, the more that cap is raised. The Black Armor doesn't enhance Zero's abilities. The Light hologram says it outright, all it does is access Zero's hidden parameters and allows Zero to use more of them than he's currently able to.
>>737723470Ethical testing doesn't ensure anything. Humans go through ethical testing their whole lives. Free will is the ability to say "fuck the rules, fuck society, fuck you, I do what I want", and no amount of education and societal brainwashing can actually eliminate our capacity to do this.
>>737724693Zero made Ligma his bitch with a steel pipe thoughbeit.
>>737724790Yes, but after losing his memories, he lost access to his greater abilities. And even back then, that didn't represent the pinnacle of what Zero could do. Maverick Zero was stronger than X1 Zero, but his madness prohibited him from truly using 100% of his parameters.>Pre-X1: Stronger than X1 Sigma>X1: Weaker than X1 Sigma>X2: Stronger than X1 Sigma>Awakened Zero (X5): Stronger than Pre-X1 Zero.
>>737716663Never ask a maverick hunter the label of his girlfriend
>>737716709>Wily makes a virus to correct it in Zero's capsuleFor the last time, Wily isn't that competent. He's a genius, but over half his successes are just happy accidents. I mean if he deliberately designed the virus to fix Zero, why didn't he administer it from the start?Never, EVER assume that whenever Wily does something seemingly competent, it was on purpose.
>>737723416....
>>737724693>The Light hologram says it outright, all it does is access Zero's hidden parameters and allows Zero to use more of them than he's currently able to.Wrong. Completely fucking made up headcanon that you keep repeating itt. Here's what the actual dialog is, faggot>Dr. Light: "Zero... I wasn't able to create any armor for you... But I seem to be able to enhance your abilities...">Zero: "No. I don't need any enhancements...">Dr. Light: "I see... Whether you enter this capsule or not, the decision is up to you. But if you enter, the Z Saber will be enhanced, and your defense power will be increased... I believe in you. You will use these powers in the right way to fight evil. Decide...and choose your fate."
>>737708898It's because he is the ultimate creation of Dr. Wily.The lore for the character is too good.
>>737709456Jeez Zero, put a shirt on.
>>737725345You're adorable, anon.>ゼロよ… きみのためのアーマーはつくれないが… ねむっているパワーをかいほうできそうだ。>Zero... I cannot create armor for you, however... it appears that I can unleash your dormant power.
>>737725284I do like, for all his genius, Wily is kind of a fuck up
>>737713943>>737713914>>737713809Lex my ass. He deserves get blasted.
>>737725736Seriously, he's amazing. How the fuck does a fucking roboticist ACCIDENTALLY discover a whole new element? >"Gee, I sure would like to build a new robot! But I seem to have hit a roadblock. Maybe I'll mess around with my particle accelerator that I happen to own in the hopes that it'll give me some inspiration? Oh? Well by jove, I seem to have accidentally discovered a new element! AND I can use it on my new robot!"
>>737725284>why didn't he administer it from the start?Because old age, brainlet.>Hurr why doesn't old man just fix robot before he dies
>>737716986>posts X5>and in a scene about X about to fight his friendshow me in X1 how he is holding back, show me actual dialogue of the 4 previous games of X saying he is holding himself back every time?
X>Fights on for a century aloneZero>Takes a nap when the work is done like a lazy fuckI know who my hero is
>>737716290he actually returned to monke
>>737726607Dunno, Zero came back and became the symbol that united reploids and mavericks. The dream of Willy and Light became truth.
>>737726509How about you just go and fucking play a Megaman X game instead of shitposting in a thread like you know what the fuck you're talking about?
>>737714264X's story really was just an afterthought, huh?
>>737726997it's unironically the same shit that happens to him in the first minute of X3>new guy joins>new guy betrays him for doppler/sigma>new guy eats shit and dies
>>737726886>you are weak as fuck X = you are a moralfag holding back Xholy shit are you stupid, you just proved the opposite of what you claim, kill yourself
>>737727130You're a fucking retard secondary wanting spoonfed. Go and actually play the games. I'm not humoring your glue snorting retardation beyond this point.
>>737725918>Bass: You suck old man! It had to be a accident for someone like you to build me!>Wily: More like a happy mistake but hey.
>>737718835She tried really hard. Or she didn't try hard enough.
>>737727226>the game telling you to learn and master the basics (charge shot, wall jump) to get good and foreshadowing the armor = you are a moralfag wetting your diaper and holding himself back every single fight XHoly shit you are RETARDED you keep proving the opposite, you are mentally raped dudethere is no shame in accepting that you are a faggot that believes in a stupid headcanon, you are not the first or the last one
I hid myself to repair myself. AMA
>>737727712
>>737708898X didn't get a girlfriend. Zero got Iris.Even reploid girlfriends just make a fella want to get the fuck out of there once in a while and utterly wreck some shit. Turns out that's good for maverick hunting.
>>737727712Justdie! Zelllllllllllo!
>>737727685>Creates head Canon about clear in-game textLol lmao.X literally has the infinite possibility hammered into his character, he's literally an immortal human being than can keep learning and mastering new abilities as long as he lives.
>>737728169More like Zero killed Iris. Then again it Zero ends up getting more girls after anyway.
>>737728458That's because Zero didn't have any moral tests. They were all about robo pussy and it's dangers for X.
>>737728513Not much of a moral test when Iris goes maverick+insane.
>>737728458That too.We all want to be Zero sometimes.
>>737728604>goes maverick+insaneThat's just women behavior.
>>737709793Command Mission X mogs him though.
>>737716239Robotnik is a god of robotics as well. He's just a fucking idiot. The guy easily competes with Wily and could even take a swing at Light, but he actively wants to build shit like beetle unicycles.
>>737728431>head canon brown lmao>creates headcanon about in game textyeah that's what you are doing>Zero in game text: X you are not strong enough you have to use everything you have (get good)>Zero in anon's mentally raped mind's headcanon: X you are a moralfag holding yourself back and wetting yourself every single second during a missionagain dude you can easily accept that you are a retard following a heacanon in megaman, you aren't the first or the last one
>>737720468It was a different time, brother, we did not know how good we had it.
>>737728832We rarely see Eggman's high-end works. But there's something to be said about the SCALE at which he builds. Things like the Egg Fleet from Heroes where the sky is literally blotted out by the size and number of ships. And a couple of the machines he rides in like the Egg Dragoon are nuts. But like Wily, he's often harnessing something that wasn't created by him, so I dock points there.
>>737728829Such a kino design. It is a goddamn shame it is only used once (X-Dive doesn't count).
>>737729358>Put a scarf on your hero>200% cooler
>>737729560Only hero scarves. They have to dangle and flutter in the wind.
>>737727627What about Axl?
>>737708898Zero had Wily's combat data programmed into him and had his personality switched with Sigma in a freak incident. Sigma was a good guy, Zero was supposed to be a villain.
>>737730287What ABOUT Axl?
>>737708898He was based off Roll instead.
>>737726886https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKrJuSLCb3U
>>737730628WHAT about Axl
>>737729560Sex with Fi.
>>737730669But Roll remodeled into Berkana
>>737730706>>737730287>>737730628Android Luna boyfriend?
>>737730706what about Ax>le
>>737730287Ignored
>>737716358why did he want the controller so bad bros
>>737730798Don't fuck swords
>>737730873Would be cool if it was actually real. Also, incest with X.
>>737731567Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
What I want to know is why X is so shit with swords, canonically. Granted, the gameplay reason is for balance, but you'd think he could just upload sword-fighting programs into his brain, TheMatrix-style. I wish he had kept Zero's old sword in X7 and X8. Zero has a new one so there's no reason for him to not have Zero's old one.
>>737708898Because Inafune loves the color red and was mad he couldn't make Megaman red.
How was robot megaman deaded?
>>737731668Light integrated the buster on him so it probably has to do because close combat wasn't something Light had much data on. It might also have more to do with how X and Zero are designed. X can constant grow but in X's case it's that his learning is stiff in that he has to directly copy attacks/weapons/. Zero since he's always running on full blast has to make up his fighting by constantly applying different methods to what he knows which translates better to hand to hand combat.
>>737708898>despite not having gone through 100 years worth of morality simulations like X?Exactly because he didn't have morality tests. X was molded into caring.Zero wasn't.X will worry before pulling the trigger.Zero won't.That's the point. X's B rank isn't because he is a worse fighter, in fact his technology surpasses everyone else aside maybe Zero since until much later all Reploids are inferior copies. But the higher ranked Reploids will take the shot.Zero on the other hand does not.>>737709456Notice how Zero has round shoulders until he is rebuilt in X2?
>>737731786he shut down
>>737728829>>737729358Because it sort of clashes with the armor upgrades of the main games (ignore the fact that the only main game to be released after Command Mission was X8). The plain and simple look of base X helps to accentuate the differences brought by the armors. There's far less of an impact if base X looks cooler than armored X. The only reason base X got a revamp in Command Mission is because none of X's armors in that game are permanent. They're temporary power-ups that only appear during battle. If that game had armors that permanently changed X's appearance both in and out of battle, then there would be no reason to change his base design.
>>737709521>>737709826The X1 novelization has Sigma show X's specs to Vile and he surpasses basically everything and everyone else.Cain tried and failed to copy him. Sigma is basically the best he could figure out.Hell it's a plot point in X6 that X and Zero can't be properly analyzed.
I still think it's weird that everyone believes that X went through thirty years of brainwashing simulations even though this was never implied anywhere. Like people just take it as a matter of course that Dr. Light created thirty years' worth of VR simulations for X to go through. I can't even wrap my head around what that would even entail. Did X go through a bunch of Sesame Street tier morality scenarios for thirty years?
>>737731595X charge beam that?
>>737732004tbf it's implied that X's CM armor is also another armor to avoid detection + supposedly being able to handle force metal.
>>737713809Doesn't one of the extra material imply Sigma basically died the moment the virus evolved inside him and the thing we have been fighting is the weird fusion of the virus + his antivirus program?
>>737732047Which is kinda stupid and misses the point of X. X isn't SUPPOSED to start out better than everyone else. He has INFINITE POTENTIAL. He starts from level 1 and gets stronger without limit. Dr. Light created a miraculous machine that endlessly reconfigures and upgrades itself indefinitely.
>>737732069Literally says that in the X1 intro that X had 30 years worth of simulations. The trolley problems and the like.
>Be a Rockman and X fag>Always found Zero cooler, but still like the Blue Bomber the most>Entire franchise is Inafune steadily trying to discredit and write X out of it while pushing his OC Donut Steel>It actually works people like Zero more than X these daysFeelsbadman
Ultimately I don't like Zero because he's Inafune's OC gary stu
>>737708898The Zero Virus literally reversed Zero's original programing, his "true" persona is Omega.So instead of a self-centered megalomaniacal asshole with a god complex, he become a reserved and humble guy that only fights and sacrifices himself for others.
>>737708985Why are you looking at a Reploid like that? Do you have the hots for him? It’s okay I won’t judge.
>>737731923>X will worry before pulling the trigger.This is a good way to put it. X is always wondering if there is a third (pacifist) option that doesn't involve killing. Zero just kills you he doesn't give a fuck.
>>737732156Is that what it says?>APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS WILL BE REQUIRED BEFORE WE CAN SAFELY CONFIRM HIS RELIABILITY. UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL NOT LIVE TO SEE THAT DAY, NOR DO I HAVE ANYONE TO CARRY ON MY WORK. THEREFORE, I HAVE DECIDED TO SEAL HIM IN THIS CAPSULE WHICH WILL TEST HIS INTERNAL SYSTEMS UNTIL HIS RELIABILITY HAS BEEN CONFIRMED. PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB THE CAPSULE UNTIL THAT TIME.>test his internal systems until his reliability has been confirmedI dunno man, this just reads like he created a basic diagnostics test.
>>737732247>his "true" persona is OmegaThat's more Wily's program fusing with Weil's reploid.
>>737716428>>737717073Basically, Wily's virus is his equivalent of Light's morality tests.Zero was intended to be like X5, the Awakened Zero, focused destruction with tranquill fury.But Zero was TOO violent. So his virus was meant to patch that. But it's like how a two negatives make a positive and in Zero's case it worked TOO well again and calmed him down completely instead.And anything else exposed to it would go berserk.Then comes the 2 following problems: Sigma's antivirus was also good enough to stop the virus from causing him to go berserk, so it mutated in to the Sigma Virus that kept his intellect and instead of destroying whatever is on the spot, he could plan ahead.And the second problem is that Zero basically became immune to that. So the virus works like a Pokerus for him and just empowers him and nothing else. X5's plot rides on Wily exposing Zero to a new strain to triggger the Awakening as intended.Basically, Wily was so obsessed with surpassing Light that he outdid himself multiple times in a row.
>>737708898
>>737711184>ZX4What the fuck kind of alternate timeline are you from anon? Is there a Legends 5??
>>737722997It's hilarious when you think about it because if Cain intended any of the stuff he did, he'd have been the biggest villain of all across the franchise.He made Sigma, that became a revolutionary, he made Dr. Doppler that made an empowered virus and he made the Repliforce that rebelled and put the entire planet in risk. Only for Sigma to follow right after and expose the entire planet to robot COVID and throw a space station at it.He is unintentionally a bigger threat to mankind than Wily and Weil ever could.
>>737732397>Wily totally meant for that to happen. No, really.I will never, ever stop correcting this misinterpretation. None of you people understand Wily at all. He's a bumbling nincompoop, genius though he may be. The majority of his successes were accidents. Nothing he ever attempts EVER goes to plan, and every success is a happy accident.
>>737731668The time between games in the X series is really short.X4 into X5 is a matter of months, and then X6 happens 3 weeks after X5. He doesn't have the time to git gud and Reploids don't really do file sharing like robot masters. Their mental systems are thoroughly blackboxed.
>>737732219>Entire franchise is Inafune steadily trying to discredit and write X out of it while pushing his OC Donut SteelSorry but this sounds like schizo headcanon>It actually works people like Zero more than X these daysIt's more that his gameplay is a lot more interesting, and he also stars in what's probably the best megaman series of all (and definitely the one with the more interesting and diverse content in the very least)
>>737732491>he made Dr. Doppler that made an empowered virusWe don't know who actually did create Doppler>he made the Repliforce that rebelled and put the entire planet in riskHe didn't make Repliforce either that was the government.
>>737711556>>737709793>>737709665>>737709456His main defining character trait is his Ponytail
>>737732510Nigga I just said everything backfired. X2 and X5 happen because Wily's Ghost Virus has been trying to make it work ever since.He failed to make Zero as intended, he failed to patch Zero into it, he lucked out that Sigma kept his smarts from the virus and so on.
>>737732578>Sorry but this sounds like schizo headcanonNot really. X was originally the villain of Zero 1 (not Copy, the actual X) showing how he became corrupted and fell after centuries of fighting so Zero could take up the mantle. Thankfully Capcom realized kids seeing their childhood hero become a brutal genocidal dictator wouldn't go over well and forced him to change it.
>>737732640Megaman X4 manual states the Repliforce was created by Cain labs as "compensation for Sigma and Doppler, program failures". We can assume Doppler was created by Cain labs too.
>>737732725NTA but really? Damn I hate how these details aren't in the game.
>>737732698You don't get it. The virus wasn't MEANT to be a patch that fixed Zero. The virus was a project he was working on alongside Zero. The fact that it fixed Zero was never intended. THAT was an accident.
>>737714264He’s… a Double Agent>>737714121
>>737732725That's the American manual.
>>737712109Their Games when? And no not no stupid fucking marry killing shit
>>737732753Here. Now someone with the Jap manual could BTFO me to cyberspace still
>>737715716And he died as fucking hero in the manga.
>>737732835Yeah no fuck you.
>>737732664I really hate the Megaman Zero sprite. Look at stupid stance. What the fuck is that?
>>737732835Megaman X8, anon.
Where does most of the lore take place in? Are the archie comics canon alongside the games? Did any of the games reference anything to do with the comics?
>>737732948>Are the archie comics canon alongside the games? Did any of the games reference anything to do with the comics?No and no.
>>737715917i never needed that shit to beat him>>737715927X literally pulled >pic biggest trick, in fact Zero era X is literally Sotha Sil, down even to humiliating a bitch before he became a machine force ghost.
>>737714501>Anything else Mega Man borrows from?The main heroine dying like in Final Fantasy VII, both it and X4 did come out the same year only a few months apart.
>>737729303>But like Wily, he's often harnessing something that wasn't created by himIt's not really like Wily at all. Eggman enjoys stealing power sources, but his designs are pretty much always his own. Wily has created many fantastic and incredibly high end robots since then, but he's also outright stolen Light's designs in order to make important breakthroughs, regardless of how he's often improved on them after the fact. Like the guy was able to make something like Neo Metal Sonic at what is progressively becoming more and more of an early point in his career, and he's only going up from there. He's just more concerned with full on rewriting the world in his image, so it goes back to that problem of priorities. Could he make Super Duper Neo Metal Deluxe? There's no doubt about it. Does he actually care to? Well, right now he's more concerned with awakening an ancient god or enslaving an entire alien species as just a quicker and more straightforward way of razing the land to set up his themepark.
>>737732948So here is the thing: the reason the above discussion is so confusing is because some stuff is introduced in manuals or lost in localization.Apparently the actual purpose of the virus comes from the Megaman Zero Collection's japanese version. And all we got from that is a summary.
>>737733034Phantasy Star II exists, retard.
>>737732892Yeah I never liked it either, made it look like he had sclerosis or some shit
>>737733034anon plz
>>737732772>The fact that it fixed Zero was never intended. THAT was an accident.I remember reading something like this, or it was headcanon that i made up and forgot that i did, that the virus actually flips a reploids psyche, so i assumed that Cain or whoever makes the reploids always tries to brute force them to be good, which only helps the virus to turn them evil, and X is immune not because he's special but because he's the only one who genuinely chooses between good and evil.
>>737733058I'm not willing to grant Eggman leeway that he COULD build something amazing he never has just because he's proven he wastes too much time on tampering with forces he can't even control. That's evidence of his consistent blundering, not a nebulous cloud of unrealized potential.
>>737733214Nah. The virus just fucks you up. X is immune because his antivirus measures are perfect. It's impossible to infect him with a virus.
>>737716047>loot pickups from enemiesAlready been done in Z4
>https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Maverick_Virus#cite_ref-7>During his production, Zero had an unexpected flaw in his cognitive program that made him violent and unwilling to obey Dr. Wily's instructions. Because of this, Wily chose to seal him away with the Maverick Virus to flush his mind.[7]>7.Story summary from Rockman Zero Collection official site translated by TMMN.Okay according to this, the virus really was intentional to fix Zero's violent tendencies. But when you open the link:>https://themmnetwork.com/2010/04/09/does-the-rockman-zero-collection-storyline-explain-everything/It doesn't actually state if that was Wily's intention.If anyone has the source I'm all ears.
>>737733034If X4 and FF7 came out the same year, I don't think that's evidence of one borrowing from the other. I think that's pretty solid evidence it was a coincidence.
>>737733214It's less flipping the psyche and more like removing the inhibitions. For some it just bugs them out.
>>737714685>>737710191SEX WITH ROLL CUNNY
>>737733219Eggman is primarily more about creating vehicles. Autonomous robots are just sort of a side hobby for him. Eggman is amazing at creating fortresses and combat vehicles. Any one of Eggman's personal machines can completely blow any Wily Machine completely out of the water.
>>737732664>>737732892>>737733108Zero in MMZ always looks so exhausted to me. Makes him feel a bit weak and pathetic, like he can't handle himself in tough situations. He's just constantly leaning over trying to compose himself and catch his breath while on the brink of collapsing.
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>>737733063A lot of it's just because people kind of assume things based on little info. Like this is the evolution of Zero headcanon up to now:>Original Headcanon: Wily deliberately infected Zero with the virus to make him batshit insane. Also, he killed the classic series cast. After his helmet was broken, the virus transferred over from Zero to Sigma, thus turning Zero sane and Sigma evil. As if that's how viruses work.>Current Headcanon: Wily accidentally made Zero crazy, so he created the virus with the explicit purpose of fixing him. For some reason, after the completing the virus, he never actually administered it onto Zero, and instead sealed both away.>What actually happened: Wily fucked up and accidentally made Zero crazy. He also made a virus. When he realized Zero was crazy, he sealed both him and the virus away. He had no idea that the virus could fix Zero.
>>737714501Protoman seems like Racer X from Speed Racer. He also has a scarf like Cyborg 009
>>737732892X's stance? Regardless it's just to give a tall character a box-y shape and size to make platforming easy to read
>>737732704Not to mention Inafune went on record saying he wanted the X series to be about Zero, but Capcom overrode him. So gradually he gave Zero more of a spotlight until he got his own series. It was planned from the start and not due to his break out popularity or anything.
>>737733318>Any one of Eggman's personal machines can completely blow any Wily Machine completely out of the water.Really? ANY one?
>>737730706He fucks a loli reploid version of NT Warrior Yai>>737733284Both games drank from the PS2 Kool AidNips became so traumatized over Nei's death, even if you could undo and resurrect her after it through homeric shit.>>737733365You forgot that Wily and Light are now force ghosts through the cyberspace afterlife, and all Wily does now is push Zero and X to be stronger and keep proving him right that Robots should be role models for mankind, true heroes.and the afterlife is connected to the other megaman timelines
>>737733219>he COULD build something amazingBut he DID. Even if you want to downplay everything he's done, there's no doubt that Neo Metal is above the original Blue Bomber in terms of base level technological advancement, and much of his other mechanical creations have been of even further power beyond that. The only reason to hold Eggman back from saying he's at Light's level and far beyond Wily is because X and Zero exist, but frankly that's almost unfair given that Eggman--at least within any official mainline games continuity--hasn't had that time skip for his end-of-career/life creation to come forth. You put Eggman in the Classic timeline, as-is right now, and he stomps. The only reason we haven't seen that right now is the lack of time skip and the fact that in the meantime, the guy likes a mean ol' motobug.
>>737733540NTA but I'll say yes, solely because the robot masters technically die to such supreme powers as uh, being able to pick up rocks and throwing them reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally hard.
>>737733365The true redpill: There was never any virus, that was a story made up to demonize and effectively dehumanize (de...reploid...ize?) any reploid who defied the establishment.>Oh, you don't agree with your orders? You don't like how the government is being run? Only a Maverick would think that way!>Hey, everyone, this guy has a totally real and incurable virus making him crazy! We'll just have to kill him, we have no other choice! You wouldn't want anyone else to get infected, right?It's all bullshit propaganda to silence opposition to the status quo.
>>737733540You forget that bomb and chain is powered by Blast Processing.
>>737733619And Eggman loses to a rodent who curls into a ball. You're not really applying your standards evenly here.
>>737733523X's stance looks like someone whos about to get into a streetfight. Zeros right arm is positioned way too high, it cannot be casually resting at that angle and be comfortable at all times. Try it out, it isnt a natual human stance
>>737733540The Death Egg is a marvel of astroengineering to this day.
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>>737733693Remember that Zero's weapon is located on his thigh. He's just getting ready to draw it at a moment's notice.
>>737733681Technically that rodent is actually the demigod representation of freedom and nature, and he curls into a ball reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally fast
Reminder Ashe jumped from the clouds onto a moving train with no hint of bone damage. Humanoids are fucking insane.
>>737733697He's not the only one who can build a death star.
>>737733790what does that pipe do?
>>737733725Only if you read extremely deeply into a mural on an ancient wall, and maybe the fact that an unrelated experiment to create ultimate life ended up looking just like him.
>>737733926It's the wood stove chimney, naturally.
ZX had so much potential in making plots that werent hurr muh mavericks. If every fucker is a cyborg what the hell even is a maverick in the ZX timeline?
>>737711556>Fighter tomboy girl rival for XThat producer is one of the key canon events for the bad future timeline we currently live in
>>737733782Terminal velocity-shmocity
>>737733523X>stable fighting stance with both feet planted on the ground>arms ready to fight and defend>good posture but with a hint of forward lean making him look ready to move into actionZero>unstable stance with his back foot up on its toes>lanky legs make him look awkward>arms spread wide apart leaving him completely open to attack>terrible posture with spine curved forward and head dipped way down so he looks like he's out of breathZero's GBA sprite fucking sucks and putting it next to X's SNES sprite only highlights how awful the Zero sprite really is.
>>737733926Exhaust port built with a 90 degree angle so that proton torpedoes stop before reaching the core. Wily learned from the Empire's mistake.
>>737734031Any reploid that turned into an animal reploid or a reploid that came in contact with model W.
>>737733337hope you wore protection for zero
I love Aile so much and the fact she naked makes it so much better
>>737733721he draws his sword with his left arm.
>>737732883Come on 4
>>737734529I might be starting to agree with the anons complaining about his default stance, but his animations are great.
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>>737733523Are you fucking blind
>>737733782ZX "humans" are just human brains in reploid bodies, so yeah, of course she took no damage from that.
>>737733929There's more to it than that, namely within his innate extraordinary abilities and his unique connections to several primal forces, but you seem to want to be reductive and dismissive. Sorry that someone had to tell you that Gutsman aint exactly hot shit beyond his immaculate ass.
>>737734792His animation is great Zero looks good in motion but his standing/resting animation is jank to me I wish he was still unsheathing the saber from his back it allowed him to stand upright
>>737727627>damage less than Level x 5 is reduced to 0>maximum level is 99>99 x 5 = 495Wow, that does absolutely nothing
classic>robots help humans with tasks, some get weaponized but this is the peak of human civilization and geniuses like light and wily are bornx>robots are a race and rebel against humanity, existing humans are helpless without their robot servants and tech from 100 years ago is like magic to themz>humans are on the brink of extinction at the hands of robots and live in a weaponized dome at the epicenter of a colony drop completely controlled by their robot overlords like they are pets in a zoozx>humans are few in number and now mostly cyborgs so they can keep up with robotslegends>humanity is extinct, save for a dna database floating in space, and there now only exists robots who don't realize they've fully exterminated and replaced their creatorsbad end (and a cautionary tale about western civilization)
>>737735030From what was shown that's the damage after Zero's defense and other reductions.
>>737734925The only one approaching this conversation with a chip on his shoulder is you, pal. This was your chance to articulate yourself, but it's not wrong to say it's a bit absurd that Eggman keeps losing to a balled up hedgehog. Especially when any one of his furry friends proves that basically all you need to do is grab your ankles and collide into him while sommersaulting, which kind of throws your entire argument out that it had to be a "god of fucking nature."
>>737735030I mean, multi-hit attacks probably can get hard by that maybe.
>>737732859>Repliforce getting decommissioned after 6 monthsJesus Christ
>>737735252>fail to manage maverick activity>fail to make a copy X>own members are smuggling weaponsI mean
>>737734972Zero's stance in X3 is just about perfect.>weight over his back foot with his left arm up gives him a more defensive appearance than X, reflecting a more patient/wise demeanor>right arm is still positioned to draw his sword so he can be ready to strike at a moment's noticeIt works really well to differentiate X and Zero as characters while still looking equally cool for different reasons.
>>737735304I just didn’t remember it happening so fast
>>737735146>The only one approaching this conversation with a chip on his shoulder is you, palStopped reading there. "No u" is not only the lowest form of discussion, and especially when it's so loosely applied to what was previously stated.
>>737733034Iris was not a heroine.
>>737732892Lmao.
>>737735469Works for me. Saves me time when you tap out.
>>737733543>even if you could undo and resurrect her after it through homeric shit.That's only in the playstation 2 remake that came out 8 years after x4
>>737735539That drawing drastically reduces the unga slouch, bent knees and stanky right arm
>>737735571Ah. I see.I guess it really should've been apparent that you were a twitter tourist desperate to "win" an "argument" instead of actually discussing these games and their characters, but whatever. As long as you've shown there was no value in this conversation, I'm content to let you do your little dance and decide to chalk this on your chalkboard.
>>737733320He is exhausted. Physically, he fights tons of dudes, constantly, even in scenarios the player doesn't see. He breathes more than any other sprite from X or Zero before, which normally only happens when the player has low health. Then he's fighting bosses and mini-bosses who take extra effort to deal with, even if he emerges unscathed. Mentally, he has to deal with all these dumbfucks trying to do evil shit all the time or make retarded ass plans, some of which are actually just secretly evil shit. Plus he has to deal with the weight that he took from X in There's a reason his menu was broken at the start of Zero 2. Plus, another thing to consider is that he's not even in his original body. He's literally in something that is shittier in every way. Granted, none of this holds water for Omega, but at the same time, I still think they fucked up by not using an OG X-styled design sprite for him. I would have shit my fucking pants even harder.
>>737712402JP Leviathan consistently expresses a weird love for Zero that otherwise contrasts her personality.
>>737733365Doesn't it make more sense to believe that Wily made the virus to power him up, but saw going haywire as an unwanted side effect?My headcanon is that he spent the rest of his days analyzing the virus to find a way to achieve immunity to it while still getting its benefits, but ran out of time so he put Zero in the capsule with some virus analysis program running, only managing to patch him right at the moment he was fighting Sigma.
>>737735870No. It makes more sense to believe that Wily's the same fuckup he always was.
>>737735809>He is exhausted.Which makes him seem weak. None of the other cope in your post changes the fact that MMZ Zero is a weak little bitchboy with asthma.
>>737735947I mean, it would still be a fuck up, only he would actually try to fix it considering his past mistakes like with Bass.
>>737735781>ERM, ACKSHUALLY, I'M ABOVE TALLYING WINSNigger, you were arguing about who is the better roboticist in a fucking video games crossover fight and taking personal offense that I didn't see things your way. There's no way in hell you didn't see winners and losers. Whatever man, it's clear you were way too emotional to handle this discussion, so it's for the best you fled.
>>737735856That is a lie. She consistently expresses that her being unable to kill Zero at every encounter drives her nuts. In the audio dramas, she bluntly tells X that she hates him and has no intention on ever being friendly with him.
>>737708985>>737714685So Wily was a chad intersex enjoyer while Light was a virgin pedoshit?
>>737727627nobody knows
>>737736054The premise relies fucking entirely on the idea that Wily KNEW that his virus would specifically affect Zero in a way that's the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of how it affects literally every other robot ever. This entire scenario relies on Wily coming up with the harebrained idea of creating a VIRUS designed to FIX something and working exactly as intended.MY argument, and I believe it makes far more sense given the situation at hand, is that Wily accidentally fucked up while creating Zero, and he also accidentally made a virus that somehow fixes that fuckup. The one thing I would never bet on in a million years is one of Wily's plans actually working out exactly as intended. The idea that the virus's effect on Zero wasn't a happy accident is completely incomprehensible to me. Wily isn't that competent.
>>737735992Yes, and? I never said his sprite is "good", so much as it's just rather fitting given all the shit he regularly goes through. What I don't get though is how fucking short he is. Yes, yes, gameplay-factors and what not, but he was always taller than X, and yet in MMZ, he's a fucking manlet compared to everyone else.
>>737736224Are you implying Zero wasn't being under effect of the virus when he was fighting Sigma? What did the 'W' on his head mean? Why did the virus act in that moment exactly? Did Sigma get the virus somewhere else? Did he infect Zero, causing him to recover?Could you explain? I don't see how Wily knowing about his fuck up or not changes things.
>>737736410Zero only got infected AFTER Sigma broke his helmet, giving the virus a way in. The W was just a failsafe that probably activated when Zero was being too crazy. It's presumably how Wily was able to contain Zero and stuff him in a capsule. The W had nothing to do with the virus.
>>737736410Well, you see, W is shorthand in japanese for "double". Zero was nigging out against sigma, so in short, becoming a double nigger overloaded his systems and he couldn't process it.
>>737714501Maybe Mars. In that story Mars is a robot that waks up from a capsule. He was built to destroy humanity but because of a head injury his personality changes into that of a defender at the end of the story humans beat him in the head with pipes and his programming reactivates causing him to wipe out the human race
>>737715917The saber makes an already easy fight too easy. Try fighting X5's Sigma without any upgrades.
>>737736463>>737736545I guess that makes sense, but I still fail to see how "Wily made Zero crazy, the virus fixed him" makes more sense than "the virus made Zero crazy, Wily fixed him".Both could be true, not that we'll ever know anyways.
i thought the virus was just to cripple megaman and that it was implanted in zero just so he could infect shit
>OG casts deaths unexplained>Zero has dreams of pic related
>>737723368X's other ending ties to Zero's, with Zero staying in hiding to submit himself to research, and Rockman Perfect Memories hinted at X6 to Zero being the intent. Inti seemed to like this, as their Zero Collection site timeline included events up to X6, but they seemed to still want to have their own way, so said timeline's descriptions contradict official material of X4-X6.
Thread's almost over post Leviathan lewds
>>737735490Underage flat chest Iris was a good girl.
