>by far the most fun coop horde shooter on the market right now>fucking deadRock and stone bros, what went wrong?
Because it's a chore simulator. The core gameplay is ass.
>>737712598>Sunday eveningDunno bro, might have something to do with that?
Because you're meant to log in when there's an event, do the event, and log out, not play all the time.
>>737712654I enjoyed playing Deep Rock Galactic but I agree with this guy. Literally the only fun I ever had in the game was interacting with other players. The actual game kind of blows
it's old. people played it, unlocked everything, saw everything, and moved on. it does perk back up around events and sales but then most players are dead weight
>>737712720>You have to be bribed with FOMO items into playing the game that you do not want to play hmmmmm
>>737712598the missions take too long make them take 10 minutes
>>737712598To add to what the others said, the update schedule is SLOOOOOWWWWWI get that it's an indie team and they're juggling like 2 other projects at the same time, but the hiatus between season 5 and 6 was like a year long.
>>737712598>>737712654>>737712720>>737712751>>737712861thiswhen you make grinding a core part of the gameplay you unavoidably put less effort into the gameplay loop itselfthis is why left 4 dead 2 is still the best co-op fps ever made, fuck the soulless grind skinnerboxes
>>737712598I have more fun in Helldivers 2, and the progression feels more stable and fun instead of eternal meaningless promotionsDeep Rock Galactic dropped the ball, they could have sold new classes like Vermintide/darktide, they could have introduced more gamemodes, they could have done all kinds of funny RNG quest modifiers but they didn't bother, so the game got stale.Don't get me wrong, for it's price range, it's easily a 8/10 game, but it loses that novelty really fast if you run out of gameplay changes and unlocks
What even are some modern horde shooters that are actually fun to play with randoms?I miss Killing Floor.
>>737713112Never managed to get into Helldivers 2.Every mission with randoms was just me running around trying to catch up to the veteran players running ahead and blowing everything up before i even got to shoot anything.
>>737712598>Rock and stone bros, what went wrong?The game is too repetitive after 3 000 hours.
>>737713261sounds like unc syndrome
>>737713282>3 000
>endless grind>no story or objectives other than the grind>if you want to change class you have to do the grind all over againcoop shooters used to be better than this
>>737713102this post is where i realised overwhelming majority of people shitting on DRG ITT have actually never played DRG in their lives
>>737713418bought it in february 2019, try again
>>737713418sure bud, now get back to mining morkite for the 48,325th time
>>737713261Only happens on like difficulty 6+I've had no issue otherwise, and sometimes getting carried is niceIt would help a lot if you had a premade group, but I agree the game has a problem with not incentivizing grouping up enoughWhenever I get burned out, it's because I did the braindead difficulty 1 farming or tried to do very hard missions solo and failed
>>737712598after 60 hours I had played every character, unlocked every perk, beaten every difficulty including elite deep dives and all I had left was replaying what I've already played over and over again for...cosmetics.I don't care about consmetics.
>>737713378>>endless grindIt literally ends fast as fuck compared to other coop games. Most people in lategame are playing for purely intrinsic reasons because theres nothing to "grind" for after overclocks.In fact the retardly limited ways to get cores mostly all came from deep dives and assignments, so there was extremely low incentive to "grind".>if you want to change classes you have to do the grind all over againAfter you have your first dwarf promoted, it takes like 3-5 hours of play to get a dwarf to maximum power, and they are still perfectly usable on hazard 5 before this as long as you have good teammates. Literally what the fuck are you talking about.Plus theres only 4 characters and youre meant to play all of themI will gladly write a massive text wall over the problems with DRG and how they shat it up with recent updates, but practically all the whining in this thread makes no sense on a fundamental level. It literally has nothing to do with reality
>>737712598>10 seasons of the same fucking shit
>>737713484>now get back to (playing a normal mission type with normal gameplay)If you actually knew how the game worked you would be shitting on the dogshit assignments system
I don't know why the devs devote all of their time to the vampire survivors ripoff/board game/misc random bullshit instead of the only game that made them popular. DRG is fun and deserves more than one update a year and reskinned events
>>737712654I wouldn't call it "ass" but it's like... so repetitive. The only reprive is switching classes and doing another similar group of tasks. The game feels "solved" in a bad way, at some point you kind of start to know what to do for every situation, and for anything that isn't the enemies it's kind of a chore to do it and do it and do it and do it and do it and do it.
>>737713583>erm ackshuallyFaggot no one gives a FUCK
>>737712861most of the items arent gone forever though
>>737713636the vampire survivors thing isnt by them, its a fangame they adoptedThey are focusing on the first person roguelike
>>737712598VS is still better. the inventory bullshit added nothing to the game
>>737713709>most
>>737712598Nothing.Put a little over 200 hours in before getting bored and dropping it.I got my money's worth.
>>737712598It’s still up, you can still play it, and find games, just because a bunch of twelve year olds and faggot streamers don’t play it doesn’t make it dead. They just launched the latest season a few months ago and have seasonal events ffs.
>>737712598Its fun but it's been out for 6 years at this point (longer for EA) and many people have moved on.
8,000 players is dead? I played a game for 4 years with 300-500 players average
>>737713583nobody shits on the dogshit assignment system because it's so retarded that most people ignore it unless they're literally forced to by the grind, so actual veterans forget it even exists
>>737712598>what went wrong?Covid update
>>737713768>>737713709honestly does anyone even care about cosmetics in DRG?Theres just so many that its practically completely bloated. Theres far more than youd ever care to use. You get flooded with them for playing normally. The retarded p2w cosmetic packs add even more. Theres piles upon piles of completely irrelevant progression mechanics exclusively towards cosmetics that are all isolated from every other mechanic. Instead of getting one skin for your pickaxe, you get one individual part of the skin for one of the 5-6 different pickaxe parts until you get them all. At that point who the fuck actually keeps up with them?They like 5x'd the ammount of cosmetics but i still see people mostly using the exact same things they used back in 2021. whats the point. this is such a waste of a salary of 3d modellers
>>737713768theres only the anniversary hats that are gone forever, in which case, why would you care about the first anniversary if you bought the game 7 years late?
>>737712598niggerpox literally killed the game
>>737713856exactly, 7k is a lot for a steam game that's also on consoles>300-500 players averagemost arena fps devs would sell their mothers for that playerbase
>>737713952so there's FOMO, thx for admitting it
>>737713864>on the dogshit assignment system because it's so retarded that most people ignore it unless they're literally forced to by the grindPractically all your progression in the first 50-100 hours of the game is literally just the dumbass assignment system, other than managing to get a dwarf to level 25. so yes, im pretty sure everyone is forced by the grind. I dont even know what the fuck "the grind" you speak of is supposed to be if its not assignments.
>>737713125God I love Killing Floor 1. I wouldn't even mind playing 2 right now but it's like 100 fucking gigabytes. What the fuck were they thinking?
nobody likes dwarfs they should've made a game about elves
>>737713994my point is that the actual veteran thing to do is to forget about assignments you had to do years ago and criticize the actual game>the grindi'm talking about overclock retardation, the only thing that actually mixes things up after level 25
I want to play it but like I have so much resources and there are no unlocks left for me. Why don't these games ever add content for nolifer autists that play them for 1000s of hours
eh, i put my time in, i think that's good enoughS6 came out, that seemed to be the last one and i've got other things to play now
it never got boring, but once i realized only max 5+ could even make me engaged i decided it was over, there's nothing else on the horizon for the game
>>737713125>with randomsVermintide 2 probably. Stay away from Darktide.
While all the seasons bullshit has added zero fomo or p2w or whatever to the game, i hate them for the exact same reason why i hate most games riddled with those. It just got filled with such bloated, substanceless meme systems all over the menus, and in rare cases the core gameplay. Its horrendous for new players trying to tell apart what is and isnt relevant.>at the end of every mission you see some "performance pass" progression level that does literally fuck all other than meme cosmetics>they added an entirely separate "weapon maintenance" grind menu that is just for meme cosmetics>they added an entire ore/currency for the sole purpose of buying meme cosmetics>the ammount of assignments for the sake of meme cosmetics has doubled>the ammount of random silly rng systems/finds around the caves for the sole of meme cosmetics has increased>you have a whole fucking season switching mechanic that fragments the playerbase for the sole purpose of getting prior cosmeticsIts just so annoying. I dont play the game very often and now theres a billion menus of things i will literally never bother to fill out because it isnt substanceful progression, the season will be over before i get them and i obviously wont bother reverting to a prior season.You can see the moment DRG stopped having great player retention and somehow more and more of the playerbase started being people who already had level 300-1000. Back then you started the game, you didnt have a ton of retarded progression systems shoved in your face that you had to investigate before realising they are completely irrelevant. You only had your menu with your loadout/guns/gear, your perks, and some intuitive stuff like the bar, thats all. Now the game has 10 times the progress bars with the exact same ammount of real meaningful progression. Whats the point? Its literally bad for sales because its padding shit for people who already nolifed the game while making it look less appealing to new buyers
I played for 400 hours and it's indeed the best coop horde shooter, but at some point you did everything there is to do for the 1000th time with every possible loadout and class and it gets old.The community is top tier with barely any griefers or tryhards, the devs are great releasing free updates well after early access ended (dogshit Fatshark could never) but it needs new classes or atleast weapons rather than new mission types which basically play the same as the old ones anyways.That said it's a 6 year old $30 game, can't expect it to stay alive forever.
>>737714175You could sell all your minerals at the trader and then tip all the cash to Lloyd.All of it. 5 credits at a time. Watching that tip bot dance all day.
the deep dive raid cooldown bullshit and general time gate on those forges rubbed me the wrong way, especially when at least half of them are worse to use than nothing at all.gameplay itself was okay but was not as big of a fan of some of the boss fights like cracking the core in the escort mission. the sequence is too specific and the room itself is always the same so it plays out with almost no variety.it was fun while it lasted but it isn't a forever game. personally would argue no game is.
>>737714340this anon speaks the language of truth
>>737713525>but it's only a little bit of grindhow about you don't waste a single hour of my and my friends time and just give us a fun game to play?Every game designer responsible for put leveling and skill unlocks in multiplayer shooters must have his hands crushed with a hydraulic press and his tongue cut out with a rusty bread knife.
>>737712598I had to stop because of how fucking ass the overclock system is. I liked the core gameplay, but gating them behind RNG + time gating them was just miserable. It's a casual, co-op game but it has one of the most grind intensive delayed variable reward systems I've seen in a videogame, it's bizarre. Also, anecdotally, the first promotion is pretty miserable. I did mainly duos with a friend, but when you try to bring a 3rd friend later, making him watch you do these OC events that he doesn't gain anything from is pretty anti co-operative. It's not a small amount of time to reach your first promotion, and it actively discourages with letting new people play all the classes equally. The core gameplay is great, with genuine variety in mission types, the overall mtx system is very pro-consumer, non-fomo, but the metaprogression in the game is very bad.
>>737714467>how about you don't waste a single hour of my and my friends time and just give us a fun game to play?thats actually what DRG was overwhelmingly known for during its peak of popularity, actually
I have thousands of hours in Killing Floor 1 and Payday 1 & 2, but Deep Rock just looks like shit. Enemies, guns, levels, shit looks awful to play. Not even if it was free.
>>737712598Reddit and stone!
>>737714671thanks for the opinion on a game you never played, i tried about 15 minutes of KF1 and concluded it was jank dogshit, never looked back
>>737714549actually it's known for locking people into a specific class because of the retarded progression mechanics. The game would be actually fun with friends if you could try out different class combinations without effectively losing all your progress and starting that new class from scratch
>the game is bad because after you play it for 100 hours it gets boring!Play a different game retards
>>737714340Truth Nuke.Another thing that bugs me about DRG is how unsubstantial it feels. I get that expecting good storytelling from a game like this is stupid, but I'd really like to see new characters, or new plotlines, or new story arcs, or have the dwarves feel like they actually have a personality and aren't just a whole ball of reddit humor.Go in, mine shit, get out. Every season is the exact same. Why do they refuse to introduce new NPCs? I'd love to see an actual elf scientist that banters with the dwarves, or an economist fairy trying to jew more money out of the expeditions
>>737714780>actually it's known for locking people into a specific class because of the retarded progression mechanics.Almost everyone says you are actively encouraged to play multiple classes. At least two, preferably all of them.>>737714780>without effectively losing all your progress and starting that new class from scratchthats how 90% of the playerbase plays the game, yes. they got past the initial stage where all your dwarves are level 0 and enjoyed the entire rest of the game being able to switch dwarves freely
>>737714798>boring before you play for 100 hours because you don't have any overclocks or promotions>boring after you play for 100 hours because by that point you've seen everythingSounds like a shit game to me.
>>737714798>play a different gameif the game is actually fun you don't need to
>>737714774You're a welcome. Play some better vidya.
>>fucking deadit has way more players than when I started playing in mid 2019
>>737714941>or have the dwarves feel like they actually have a personality and aren't just a whole ball of reddit humor.they used to feel like this before they bloated the games' voicelines with boring shit. The voicelines added way later into the game are way less striking and remarkable on average, i hardly ever call things reddit but half the new VLs are the definition of reddit> I get that expecting good storytelling from a game like this is stupid, but I'd really like to see new characters, or new plotlines, or new story arcsThis would have totally worked, but it went to shit immediatelly after rockpox arrived and they kneecapped the games' development pace> Why do they refuse to introduce new NPCs? I'd love to see an actual elf scientist that banters with the dwarvesto be honest that would be outright boring/remove a lot of their mystique
>>737712598You lied, thats what went wrong
>>737715090>it's alive guys>graph literally shows the decline
They stopped updating it for 4 years, playerbase moved on
DRG was never good. it was just an average game with an obnoxious community.
>>737712598I have 2500 hours on this kinoany other games as fun as this?redsugar me on helldivers
needed pvp
>>737715097>they used to feel like this before they bloated the games' voicelines with boring shit. The voicelines added way later into the game are way less striking and remarkable on average, i hardly ever call things reddit but half the new VLs are the definition of redditthis is very true and i never hear anyone talk about it
>>737714798I've played it for 3967 hours. When does it get boring?
>>737715129how is that relevant when you only need 3 other dudes to have a great timeare you some kind of sheep only following trends
>>737715004you have mental illness tho so you shouldnt really comment on tastes
>>737714981> you are actively encouraged to play multiple classesHow does the game encourage that? (actively)
>>737715169honestly i dont think so, i didnt like helldivers as much. Its nowhere as interactive, you technically have more vehicles and big explosions but its all straightforward generic shooting. It felt to me like a game meant for 20-50 players limited to four.I think you would be better off trying Monster Hunter with friends. Not Wilds, that one sucks.
>>737715206no, i'm in AUS and 7k players translates to hardly any haz 5 games in australia
>>737715258haz 5 is gay tryhard shit so it makes sense nobody but retards like you want to play it
>>737715097>they used to feel like this before they bloated the games' voicelines with boring shit. The voicelines added way later into the game are way less striking and remarkable on average, i hardly ever call things reddit but half the new VLs are the definition of redditYeah, I remember some of the earlier voicelines being much more mean-spirited and depressiong. A couple of them got downright removed, but I can't quite remember which ones they were.Now it's all just redditshit and I hate it.
>>737712598i got my 400 hours of it and that was it>memorized all module pieces>only thing left is getting blank cores for dumb weapon cores that i don't like to use because they nerfed all the good ones into the ground>or cosmetics that you don't want to use because you've already got all the ones you want>battle passes that require you to go through a tree to unlock what you want rather than just purchasing said wanted item from the shop they already have, because they know people won't play without some gimmick to force them to>missions are all the same and all the new ones are even more tedious and time consuming compared to just regular mining/killing>robots are annoying and so are some of the new enemiesit's fine but the game is over and it's relevancy is done as well
>>737713768none actually. just install the mod that lets you play past events>but it's sandbox!lurk moar
>game is popular therefore it's redditwhy are you guys like this
>>737715287sorry if i don't like haz 3 space terraria, i generally don't jerk off while playing videogames
>>737713525i've gotten all that there is to unlock in the game 200 hours ago and i'm still playing.although it's one of those games i will intensely play for a few months, then not play for a few more months
>>737715340It's not reddit becuse its popular.It became more popular because it leaned into the reddit fanbase and started pandering to it by adding more stupid fucking voicelines and puns, referencing the mushroom ping joke and adding more dumb dances
>>737715287>im trans and aspire to be a game journalistembarrassing
>>737714340i save edited most of that grindy shit and missed nothing. still got over 1k hours out of the game
>>737715242>sometimes your class is already taken when you join a gameoverwhelming majority of people prefer to have different classes instead of multiple dwarves, for the sake of both fun and efficiency from less superfluous/repeated tools in the team. I guess double gunner shield spamming is broken, but nobody does that for some reason.>preferencesome classes are remarkably stronger/more significant for certain mission types. youre better off knowing them all in case you want to solo, play with a group that lacks it, or whatever>not all your overclocks will be for a specific classthey will be spread around classes and guns, so youre rewarded for playing other classes. At the very least two of them. Just one will suck dick for overclocks>it genuinely makes you better at the gameyou understand other classes better -> you fuck them up less or synergize with them better. And you know what to suggest for other players to bring so you can synergize>it makes the game less repetitive so practically everyone likes itself explanatory
>>737715474>i save edited most of that grindy shit they ban you for that these days
>>737715324this, the game was finished like 5 years ago and the devs moved on. It's not that deep of a game, running the same maps and mods with nothing new got tired long ago.
>>737715303The guys who made the survivors fangame removed the 'die like your mother did' line. The normal game is innafected afaik
>>7377125981) Random level gen kills it, especially because too many of the objectives aren't too dissimilar either. It causes so much of the game to just blur together. It doesn't help that 99% of modifiers or events within a mission are self-contained, minimal, and often quick to dispatch with2) Shooting glyphids isn't inherently satisfying. You play other horde games, the enemies are fun to kill in a vacuum. L4D has you quickly churn hordes of zombies into gibs. Payday has you quickly popping cops and their helmets go flying. VT has you crumping the skulls of rats with a satisfying crunch. Glyphids, they just aren't satisfying to kill. Grunts have just like, a tad too much health to make it satisfying to BRRRRRT through them, especially since their weak point is directional and low to the ground, and when they die, they don't properly gib despite being a bug. It's just kinda mehDoesn't help that the seasonal updates were just gimmicky half-updates that never addressed these issues, and just served as excuses to push out outfit DLC and get shills to push the game to their friends
>>737714340The season switching does not fragment the playerbase. Season switching for selecting where performance pass EXP is allocated. You can be on season 1 and join season 4 it doesn't matter.
>>737715507[citation needed]
>>737715507good thing drg only has local hosting so there's nothing that can enforce bans. i've been using mods that change gameplay for hundreds of hours and nothing has ever happenedhell, you can even use approved and sandbox mods without issue (there is a way to trick the game into thinking your big mods are the verified ones).
>>737715609>2) Shooting glyphids isn't inherently satisfying.HUGE reasonthe bullet kill sounds are fine, but the feedback on the other weapons is kinda badthey added kill effects to laser weapons that make them way less satisfying to use too
>>737715287Deep Rock Galactic is the easiest horde shooter out there. If you're getting filtered by Hazard 5, you should think about quitting video games and killing yourself. DRG is literally babiest first coop game it's so easy.
>>737715609this feels like it was written yb someone that has only ever played scout and no other class. Either way DRG has so much more with explosives, environmental kills, interesting status effects, etc than all the games you mentioned, its not even a debate>>737715618In theory yes, but the missions in the world scanner are different. Which leads to people searching for different missions to join, or seeking different objectives, or actively refusing to play something like the rockpox infested seasons because they dont like it. It slightly fragments the playerbase ultimately, but its minor
>>737712598Helldivers won lil bro
>>737712598>dead>somewhere between 2 thousand and 4 thousand lobbies going I don't think that word means what you think it means.
>>737715675>they added kill effects to laser weapons that make them way less satisfying to use tooi agree with this, they felt better to kill back when they ragdolled instead of disintegrating
>>737715718>this feels like it was written yb someone that has only ever played scout and no other class>intellectually dishonest AND speaks in broken EnglishYep, that's about what I'd expect from someone like you. Carry on.
>>737712598>friend slop
>>73771599195% of the niggers who defend this game play alone with randoms
>>737715474You didn't beat the game
>>737716154if beating the game means grinding retarded assignments and cosmetics i think he won the real fight
>>737714318>vermintideGod i wish this game was still alive.
>>737712598i think its equal in greatness to l4d2 but in different ways.
>>737712598Coop horde shooters are for braindead wagies
>>737715609>level gen kills itsorry, i don't like running down the same hallways and doors
>>737712598it's like 8 years old or something. It was fun but every game has a shelf life and there's other shit to play now.
>>737716867>>737715206
Rather than those rougelite spin offs or whatever they're making they should've made a management sim game where you gotta keep the company running and making sure the dwarves don't get themselves killed.
I still play DRG because the devs are wizards and made the entire game like 3 gb. I never have to rotate it out for another FOTM, that's probably the main reason I have so many hours in it. I've played 2d platformers that have higher space requirements for whatever reason.
>>737716072Nta but I have to give DRG one big compliment: somehow they made random lobbies feel good. I have 1700 hours but I can count with one hand all bad lobbies I ever encounter and it was mostly either super high level guys and new players.I really wanna know how the fuck they manage to tame people into cooperating without jiggly keys in from of them or hard bans.
>>737714083>artificial outragejust cleanup your storage space and download it when you're not using your pc. I get the principle behind not wanting games to be 100gb but come on.
>>737712598It's simply past its prime. Still great, however.
>>737717425it's a game not a woman
>>737717039You hardly have to tard wrangle because mission control or the dwarves themselves audibly say what you should be doing at any given time. If you want to give a reminder, just ping whatever the objective is with the laser pointer and your dwarf will say a line explaining what people should be doing. When the game is giving advice instead of a player screeching in text/voice chat, most people, even cunty ones with too much pride to listen, will do as it says. Aside from that the game isn't super hard and not 100% dependent on any one dwarf. If you need to reach somewhere high up without a scout, an engineer can make platforms, a gunner can use a zipline, a driller can try to dig a tunnel up from the side of a wall. If you need to dig somewhere without a driller, everyone has pickaxes and can still do it, albeit way slower. If you need firepower without a gunner, most classes have enough tools to fight without really needing one. It's a pretty well designed game all things considered.
>>737717514Yeah, this is basically it. The game constantly nudges you without feeling like a tutorial pop-up from 2008. Between Mission Control nagging, dwarves auto-calling objectives, and the laser pointer doing half the communication for you, even room temp IQ pubs can figure it out.Plus the whole “everyone is self-sufficient but better together” design is doing heavy lifting. No class feels mandatory, just optimal. So when someone fucks up or is missing, it’s mildly annoying instead of run-ending rage fuel.It’s unironically just good co-op design. Rock and stone, etc.
No game rules forever
>>737712598They stopped supporting it in any meaningful way to waste their time and money with those gay ass survivor and whatever other spinoffs.
>>737713125DarktideSpace marine 2Vermintide 2Just play Kf1 still anywayBack 4 blood (kinda slop)
>>737713261Sounds like you suck ass and can't process what's happening fast enough to play. Stick to some slow game, old head
>>737715287Haz 4 is the absolute acceptable minimum for anyone who learned to play the game.
>>737718649Yeah Haz 4 is good. Haz 5 is tryhard garbage, glad we agree.
I've got 200+ hours. Had my fun, might play again at some point but it does get repetitive. Can't really bitch about the game too much though when it's still leaps ahead of the competition, not many horde shooters can compare
>>737714083>he doesn't have gigabit fiber and 5tb+ of SSD space
>>737718953Haz 5 is gay as fuck because why are the bugs faster and somehow fall damage is worse. Terrible and unfun really.
>>737712598I HAVE NO FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH
>>737713125everything sucks with randoms, id rather play with bots
>>737719250>waaah waah
>>737718953>>737719250this is some gay shit im reading just now>>737715258why do you need to play with specifically australians? just join other lobbies
>>737719551200+ ping just to play with asian people i can't communicate with doesn't sound like a good time
>7kchartsaar that's a pretty reasonable number
>Game starts>Scout spiderman swings to the top of the map>Dies in an alcove nobody can reach>Maybe the driller can do it?>Driller is 80 miles underground, also dead because an exploder got in his tunnel and popped him>No idea where the entrance to his tunnel is>"Attention miners, swarm incoming!"
>>737712598>0 enemy variation and built>99% of mods and guns are pure trash>mods made by 1 kid over the week have more enemy types than a game made by a studio for 5 years>too easy for vets, too hard for begginers>haz 5 is like easy mode the moment you get a decent build onlinelol
>>737719846>5 years8 years*
>>737712598they stopped making content for it, is that simple, no new weapons, no new gadgets, no new builds, no new overclocks, the gameplay loop is stagnant, there are no new builds, or new ways to play or new interesting content.
>>737719897been 8 years?fuck me1000 seasons with 1000 hats yet they still can be assed to add more bug and elemnt typesand still cant be assed to make more than few guns viable past haz 2
>>737719846>>0 enemy variation and built
>>737719175>>737717106>defending that garbagenigger
>>737713261my issue with helldivers is that no one sticks together anymore, everyone immediately runs to the nearest enemy marker, throws a bunch of shit and runs away to the next marker, there is almost no teamwork, in fact being close to each other will probably just get you killed
You're fucked if RNG hates you, the game.
>>737712861I need to be liberally bribed with more gun mods
>>737712598I played this for years then one day it acted like I had no internet connection. Tried again recently and same issue.
I might get back into DRG if they introduce randomized build / gun / overclock runs. I'm tired of making shitty builds.
>>737720312It's a tricky balance, roguelikes are either stones you draw blood from via some good rng runs or you turn into isaac where items and synergies get out of hand ridiculously fast and easily and nothing is difficult anymore.
>>737720506enter the gungeon is neither and it's why it's still the best roguelike
>>737720341the russian malware you downloaded doesn't want competition for network bandwidth.
>>737720575gungeon is dogshit and has slow gunplay for casuals, play NT instead.
>>737720428There is a beer that randomizes your build iirc
>>737720341any firewall active? drg gets blocked by tinywall for some reason, I guess its the HOSTS files block or something, had to uninstall and reinstall several times
>>737720663NT was great for its time but it aged like milk
>>737712598>game doesn't have 8 billion players>it's fucking dead
>>737720679I tried everything under the sun, it's not blocked or anything. When I went to go play the Easter event everything stopped working. Other people had similar issues on the bug discussion threads as well.
>>737720784but are you using tinywall? I was and yeah the game wasn't blocked, but shit still wouldn't connect, had to swap firewalls
>>737712598>leaned into being a semi-live service game>gave up on doing consistent seasons very quickly>the third season was such an unenjoyable piece of shit and was around for so long that it started souring people real quick>sped up the only long-term progression in the game so much that you can unlock all overclocks in a week>left it in a state where builds are a solved game for every weapon>colossal modding drama that was caused by the devs and their jannies, almost killed the modding sceneThat's basically it.
>>737720914No anon, I'm not using tinywall.
>>737715258Australians shouldn't have an opinion on these topics, is not our fault you live in the middle of fucking nowhere and cant play 90% of videogames online, get fucked.
>>737712598It’s a boring game for redditors
>>737713125games are not fun to play with randoms period, discord ruined gaming forever, now everyone is in their gay servers talking about transitioning and saying the same 4 memes while playing a slop game in the background, a lot of games dont even have text chat anymore, because someone may type the big no-no word, no one fucking talks or interacts with people or roleplays, everyone is just a mindless drone, may as well play with bots.
>>737720994>discord ruined gaming forever because friends can make calls privately and i'm lonely
>>737712598you hit the ceiling of progression.1. no new perks in ages.2. unlock multiclassing, "Karl mode"? nah forget it.eventually old players will move on and then they will need even more new ones to come in in order to grow.
>>737720317cool outside view, wish it was 4k
>>737715169I wouldnt try Helldivers if you like DRG, try KF1
Nothin personnel nerds
>>737722061you've been shilling that slop from 15 years ago the whole threadit's time to move on, you're reaching team fortress 2 levels of cope
>>737712598>no new weapons>no new cores>skills have been forgotten since day one>flare upgrades have been forgotten since day one>no new classes>only a shitty new biome and fugly cosmetic slopi'll stick with Darktide.
>>737713102l4d is only liked by speedrun trannies. shooting and the core gameplay doesn't feel good at all.
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>>737715287Haz 5 is for babies even difficulty 3 in helldivers is harder
>>737712598the last good co-op fps was payday 2
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